[00:22] I'm running Xubuntu beta 2, and I joined launchpad. It says: "no open bugs". What am I meant to do? === Jeff_Mitchell_Xu is now known as jeff_xubuntu [00:28] jeff_xubuntu: hey, where exactly does it say "no open bugs"? [00:29] https://bugs.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-testers [00:30] Then click the "bugs" tab. Don't tell me I'm in the wrong place lol I'm such a noob even though I've used linux for six years. [00:31] this team does not seem to be subscribed to any reports [00:32] the xubuntu bugs team on the other hand is [00:32] https://bugs.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-bugs/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0 [00:33] jeff_xubuntu, what are you looking for? [00:33] but this list of bugs isn't that helpful right now [00:33] please take a look at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-t-bugs [00:33] thanks! [00:33] or a list of bugs reported against the beta2 in the ISO tracker [00:55] jeff_xubuntu, are you looking at ISO testing, or package testing, or something different? [00:55] ISO testing, I'm running Xubuntu beta 2 right now [00:55] ok, [00:55] so the ISO testing basically means you would need to *install* a system [00:55] the reports are sent to this tracker: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ [00:56] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/313/builds [00:56] that's the URL for beta 2 builds [00:56] I think I should refer to the Ubuntu testing documentation. I looked through the Xubuntu website and didn't find anything, then I though, oh right, all the documentation is on the Ubuntu website, not Xubuntu website. [00:56] *thought [00:56] let me see... [00:57] right... the website can be a bit ambiguous [00:57] ah I see http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/306/builds/55995/testcases [00:57] yes.. that's the packages tracker [00:58] Ristretto has heaps of bugs I'll look at that. I think I'll cook some food first... back later [00:58] ok, bon appetit [01:07] knome: can you unhide https://launchpad.net/bugs/1292025 please? [01:07] Error: launchpad bug 1292025 not found [01:07] ristretto segfault [01:09] done [01:09] thanks [02:11] anybody experiencing the parole dvd-playback issues, please try out this commit [02:11] http://git.xfce.org/apps/parole/commit/?id=62f3b404a41bdce368fd3777328c966f87b860f4 [02:17] Unit193: still have two dvd drives? [02:17] bluesabre0: Never did. [02:17] oh, I thought you had filed some bug regarding that [02:17] nvm then :) [02:19] No, I did file the bug though. [02:20] lp 1098323 [02:20] Launchpad bug 1098323 in parole (Ubuntu) "Parole failes to play DVD" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1098323 [02:20] tricksy ukikies [02:22] this commit may fix that too [02:22] at least partially [02:22] I no longer even have /dev/dvd2, just /dev/cdrom which is a symlink to /dev/sr0, which is a DVD drive. [02:25] I'll do some testing later with an external drive, but I'm happy to have one thing seemingly resolved [02:26] Soo, that commit looks a tad hacky, is it actully? [02:30] sort of [02:30] :) [02:30] before, it was using "dvd:/" [02:31] which auto-detects the device based on the URI [02:31] now it uses "dvd:///dev/sr0" or whatever the unix device is [02:32] tested several variations with parole and vlc to figure out what is accepted [02:33] the previous thing only worked with /dev/dvd0 or something along those lines [02:33] which caused other issues when that path went away [02:34] (and still is an issue for totem, last I checked) === AussieDownUnder is now known as newnick === newnick is now known as CyborgCygnus [09:19] is whiskermenu supposed to stay alphabetical - adding apps - they just get put to the end of the list they end up in [09:51] elfy: for it to not be alphabetical, enable the setting "Show menu hierarchy" in the whisker settigs [09:54] aah cool [10:22] bluesabre0: what did you think about making xfce4-powerman aware of the session setting? [10:22] just to keep those two in sync [10:22] either let them use the same xfconf-key [10:22] (the one of session, i suppose) [10:23] or just patch xfce4-powerman to check that setting and stay in sync [10:23] then obviously light-locker-settings would also need a patch to stay in sync [10:23] (the lid-lock behavior is obviously another level of complexity, but the user will have to handle that) [10:30] ochosi: yeah, that sounds ideal [10:31] it shouldn't be too hard to code that, just means adding a check for another xfconf key [10:32] although i dunno what should happen if the key in -session doesn't exist yet (should it be created then? or do we have to check whether xfce4-session is in use/installed?) [10:38] bluesabre0, elfy, sweet I was wondering why I had to drag & drop the apps in the order I wanted, rather than have like an alphabetical order. [10:39] yeah, there's a bit of implementation we'll need to consider [10:39] CyborgCygnus, glad I could help :) [10:40] bluesabre0, except nothing really happens when I turn it on or off, nothing re orders it self. I'll just remember for when the stable release comes out as I suspect it will run better than this install I have going. [10:41] yeah, there might be some old configs, or it might need to be refreshed or something [10:41] I'll check into that [10:44] bluesabre0, I've been updating almost daily from the alpha, I noticed the other day when I chucked a daily image on a usb & ran it live that it had a noticeable amount of differences in it, stuff ran better. [10:44] ah [10:45] if you're updating and want to check some new things without changing your current settings, you can probably log into the guest session to see what's what [10:45] I stuffed my install up anyway, I had it on the first partition of a drive, deleted two other o/s's off using gparted & updated the grub, now it boots real sluggish & comes up with errors, I just ignore it cause I know I'll never be able to fix it. I just play with this as it is & am waiting for stable release. [10:46] bluesabre0, ah okay, good idea. I have no idea how to refresh configs etc, someone told me before how to do it for the saved startup sessions but I can't remember things when I only use them once. [10:52] Help, was just on launchpad.net to report a bug, brainwash recommended me to do this but I cannot find on that site where to report a bug. [10:54] starrats: against what package do you want to fil the bug? [10:56] lderan, tell me if you need help/feedback or anything regarding bots, and i can then join #ubuntu-bots if needed [10:59] the bug I want to report is that mu cursor/pointer freezes up at the logon/password screen at start-up. I have reported this same bug numerous times and have trid things that brainwash has suggested all have failed. [11:00] trid - tried [11:00] rather than file it numerous times, please expand the original bug report... [11:01] starrats, Install a daily image over your current? [11:02] starrats, I have problems with my Alpha 14.04 that I've updated to the daily, I worked out a fresh image fixes that. [11:06] daily image? expand the bug report? first one I don't understand and the second one I have expanded the original report [11:07] reinstall with a new daily [11:07] starrats, first one refers to the latest daily image, or in this case, the beta2 image; new images are built every day except during milestones [11:07] starrats, latter: good (that's not you said though) [11:09] morning knome [11:10] morning knome [11:11] everything in order in QA and docs? [11:11] knome I have told everything to brainwash after I filed a ubuntu-bug report on term and that's when he told me to try a couple of things, that did not work and then he suggested for me to go to #ubuntu+1 channel and tell them my problems, got very little help there, told that to brainwash and he told me to report the bug on launchpad. I tied to this morning and I could not find the where to report [11:11] this bug. [11:12] starrats, right, then wait patiently [11:12] starrats, there's not much else we have to give you except one of our bug triagers helping you [11:12] "we have" meaning, there isn't much more things we can do to help you [11:13] if others are unable to reproduce the issue, it's even harder to get anything fixed [11:13] I have been very patient with everyone, I thought I had this freezing thing defeated per se because i had days with out this problem and now the last three days it has reared it's ugly little head again. [11:14] so what is the original bug number? [11:15] I have a toshiba laptop running a dual partition with windows 7 and xubuntu 14.04 [11:15] will try to find the orig. bug report. [11:32] I could not locate original bug report# but here's the Question# 245333 sent to me by Manfred Hampl concerning this problem which was on 3/12/2014 [11:35] starrats: just go to your LP page - then click bugs - then you'll see bugs you've done something to [11:35] in the top right there are options to specify - pick reported [11:36] okay [11:45] Could not locate my report because I believe it was an additional comment on the question I said above, but there was a sdimilar one on 12.04 version about the same issue I'm having now. [11:46] no idea then [11:46] and have you tried using a different mouse? [11:46] tbh - I would just reinstall with a new daily and be done with it [11:47] I did try to file a ubuntu-bug report from term but I did not have output of problem I just typed ubuntu-but and clicked on theXorg box and went from there. [11:47] I will do the same if necessary [11:48] and as people have said if they can't replicate it - or it is in fact something to do with your hardware it will just sit there [11:49] well I don't know how to change my hardware [11:50] so I just take it that this is irrepairable? [11:50] left in the dark on it [11:51] you don't know how to change a mouse? or is it a laptop? [11:56] a laptop [11:56] so I would download a new image and reinstall then [11:57] beginning of the month will buy a usb mouse, the one I have doesn't work, tried numerous times [11:58] a new image = a new dvd of Trusty Tahr? [11:59] yep [12:01] okay one question I have on this, are all the updates/upgrades/dist-upgrades be on this new download of the image or would i have to do all that i have done all over again? [12:01] no - you wouldn't be downloading all the updates again [12:02] or should I say will the new image have that from all the work you folks have done to truty tahr [12:02] it will be as up to date as it can be [12:02] okay I will download and burn a new image of trusty tahr [12:02] and re-install [12:03] ah ok [12:03] back up data if you have any [12:03] alright got to do other things [12:03] bbl [12:03] cya [13:08] good morning everyone [13:11] good afternoon starrats [13:13] elfy did you see what I did about my cursor on offtopic channel? [13:13] I did [13:13] and good morning to you again [13:14] :) [13:14] okay got my fingers crossed that this will work all the time but 2 times with a windows update between I feel confident [13:15] it couldn't have been reinstalling xubuntu-desktop unless something else got reinstalled at the same time though [13:18] well the output from term if I can remember right was words to the effect that xubuntu desktop 2.179 installed [13:18] mmm [13:18] I could run the command again, don't know if it would do anything or ? [13:19] just wait and see :) [13:20] will do [13:20] :) [13:23] elfy I was going to download.burn a new image as we chatted about earlier but after all the windows & updates were done and I had a chance to restart before putting my pw for windows, itook a chance and restarted and went to the xubuntu line and on the frozen cursor was free the second time so right now I'm back here and feelinng a little better [13:31] oh hang on [13:31] do you get this issue at the grub screen? [13:32] http://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers_new_2/grub2-dual-boot-in-grub2.png [16:13] elfy, any tests you'd like me to run? [16:14] if you could do some 64bit that would be awesome - and possibly a cli upgrade or two? [16:14] meh, :) [16:14] :) [16:14] i mean, i can do upgrades, but they are clean upgrades then [16:14] yea I know [16:14] i can at least take some of the 64-bit [16:14] I'm in the same position [16:15] who wouldn't... [16:15] i can take at least any two of the 64bit ones [16:15] I'll be able to do some hardware 64bit later - what I won't be doing there is the entire disk [16:15] plus the post-install one [16:15] okay, i'll do that at least then [16:16] i can also do auto-resize [16:16] how about entire and that one :p [16:16] if you prefer manual partitioning [16:16] yep, that works for me [16:16] and the post-install [16:16] well - I odn't want to fubar what's on the machine [16:16] yeah i understand [16:17] we got 17 done with yesterdays image [16:17] cool [16:17] let's see how much i need to zsync [16:17] I did do a couple of vm upgrades but what we really need is real ones - not so easy to get people to do :) [16:18] 32% [16:18] you've got 32% or you need 32% :) [16:18] need [16:19] but any is ok [16:19] yep [16:19] downloading at 1050 kB/s [16:21] hmm [16:21] bug 1231520 [16:21] bug 1231520 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Desktop image ignores installation language setting for locale" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1231520 [16:21] might be related to your keyboard bug [16:26] could be [16:29] not sure about labelling my issue as ubiquity - it will never get looked at then :) [16:29] heh :) [16:29] depends, if you know who to ask... [16:30] well I don't know anyone, I'm deeply cynical about bugs if they don't affect ubuntu [16:31] mhm [16:31] dinner, bbiab [16:31] mmm [16:36] hi slickymaster [16:37] slickymasterWork: even [16:44] hey elfy [17:15] slickymasterWork: I'd not actually fail those for those bugs - in fact I didn't :p [17:16] elfy: are you referring to the debian wallpaper and the xfce4 one? [17:16] yea [17:17] I can change the result to 'Passed', still keeping the bugs if you think it's preferable [17:17] that's what I did [17:17] but if you want to fail them be my guest :) [17:17] and that's what I'm about to do ;) [17:17] lol [17:18] no, I do see the logic in your reasoning [17:20] done [17:22] brainwash: ping [17:24] brainwash: could you please give this a test-run? fixes the xfdesktop-style-issue for me: https://github.com/EricKoegel/xfdesktop/commit/31a6f3520565bd59701c78e5e030e113eea7f406 [17:47] elfy, ran and reported those two testcases and noticed i can't do much about the post-installation one [17:49] yep - thanks :) [17:49] they're respinning I think - so we'll get another blank sheet [17:50] I'd done the post install one [18:44] ochosi: I'll test it, the patch seems to revert the previous commit [18:45] there is a small difference, but I'm pretty sure that it will work :) [18:56] bug 1297170 [18:56] bug 1297170 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Live Session starts with XFCE wallpaper/install uses same" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1297170 [18:56] low priority? :D [18:57] who is this guy? he seems to change the priority of many xfce/xubuntu related reports [18:59] apparently somebody who works for the one hundred papercuts project [19:00] at least he is argumenting the reason why he set a specific priority [19:10] true [19:16] so I've built abiword with the backported patches for the stable branch + my simply patch to fix the icon in the about dialog [19:16] https://launchpad.net/~thad-fisch/+archive/test [19:16] tested and it works [19:17] woops, "my simple patch" [19:18] Noskcaj: any news regarding an possible abiword bug fix release [19:22] brainwash: talking of bugs - can you not mark testcase ones as dupes :) [19:23] elfy: that one was marked as invalid first [19:23] I know - I marked it :) [19:24] just putting my marker down :) [19:24] it's technically a dupe then.. or not? [19:25] not really - if something is wrong with a testcase - 9 times out of 10 there is [19:26] but marked as invalid [19:27] sigh [19:27] that's beside the point - please don't mark our testcase bugs [19:28] ok [19:28] thanks :) [19:29] that papercut guy does that a lot then gets involved in arguing stuff [19:29] did the same when asked not to spam qa mailing lists with bunches of emoti's or something [19:31] new 64bit image is 14% different from this morning it seems [19:31] brainwash: Simple, he uses unity/ubuntu, Xfce/Xubuntu is low priority when it comes to that. :P [19:32] elfy: I presume anytime now is good for upgrades, alrighty. [19:32] just been respun [19:32] Upgrades don't get respun. ;) [19:33] cli ones don't [19:33] I'm too tired for semantic arguments [19:33] Unit193: maybe, sometimes it seems like he doesn't know what's going on in the Xubuntu/Xfce universe [19:35] and the papercuts project guys don't seem to help us that much, or even at all [19:35] it's about marking things if you ask me [19:38] brainwash, I've heard nothing more [19:43] Noskcaj: should we just pick the 2 patches and release an upgrade? [19:51] hi [19:58] hey jhenke [20:19] kitty! [20:20] Hmm? [20:20] pleia2: Oh, oh, oh! You'd approve of my shirt! [20:20] doing iso testing, slideshow [20:21] http://www.amazon.com/T-Shirt-Firefly-Curse-Sudden-Betrayal/dp/B00EYXAQJE <-- like that! [20:21] Ahh. [20:32] Noskcaj: abiword -> https://launchpad.net/~thad-fisch/+archive/test [20:33] brainwash, Are you able to package to yourself or do you want me to? [20:33] *it [20:34] I've just built it to test it (let it test) [20:34] ok [20:35] I doubt that I know how to properly do it (patch names, changelog entries,..) [20:35] also, it could be worthwhile just packaging upstream git [20:35] yes, indeed [20:36] it's actually svn with a read-only git mirror [20:36] ok [20:37] the debian package installs the abiword.png into the /usr/share/pixmaps folder [20:37] fedora and arch don't do that [20:38] the install it into the according icon folder [20:39] -> usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/abiword.png [20:46] so the icon is not displayed in abiword's about dialog on debian/ubuntu system [20:58] brainwash, Probably worth fixing, maybe email the debian maintainer about it [20:59] Noskcaj: Know if the python-parsedatetime problem is fixed, or is going to be fixed? [21:01] Unit193, I've not heard anything more [21:01] You could always package the new version for it and pyicu [21:02] I would, but i've got a heap of gnome stuff and homework (to ignore) [21:02] apt-mark hold python-parsedatetime is easier. Sure, was just asking if you knew more. [21:11] Is anyone able to test the new alacarte release for me? [21:11] We have menulibre now. [21:12] i know [21:53] good night guys