[01:27] <dowel> channels
[02:06] <cyberglyph> hey guys gotta a help question here.
[02:07] <cyberglyph> I installed Lubuntu on my HP mini 311-1037NR laptop.  Everything working fine until I updated and all I could get after that was just a black screen any ideas?
[02:40] <BlueSamurai> hello all.  Would someone tell me why when I go to Software & Updates, I can install all and any updates.. (It gives me the typical everything is up to date- "but there is a new version of kubuntu available") So I clicked the option to upgrade it ask for my password, I enter it, click okay, and the dialog box goes away.  Then nothing happens. Updates work, upgrade does nothing.
[03:09] <DarthFrog> BlueSamurai:  Check /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades   What is "Prompt=" set to?
[03:09] <DarthFrog> Oh, and what version are you running right now?
[08:00] <yosdey> hola cuando sale kubuntu 14.04 beta final y de donde me lo descargo alguien me puede ayudar please help
[08:00] <yosdey> hola cuando sale kubuntu 14.04 beta final y de donde me lo descargo alguien me puede ayudar please help
[08:01] <yosdey> hello when leaving kubuntu 14.04 and final beta release where someone can help me please help me
[08:01] <yosdey> hello when leaving kubuntu 14.04 and final beta release where someone can help me please help me
[08:02] <yosdey> hello when leaving kubuntu 14.04 and final beta release where someone can help me please help me
[08:02] <yosdey> hello when leaving kubuntu 14.04 and final beta release where someone can help me please help me
[08:02] <yosdey> hello when leaving kubuntu 14.04 and final beta release where someone can help me please help me
[08:03] <yosdey> hello when leaving kubuntu 14.04 and final beta release where someone can help me please help me
[08:03] <yosdey> hello when leaving kubuntu 14.04 and final beta release where someone can help me please help me
[08:03] <yosdey> hello when leaving kubuntu 14.04 and final beta release where someone can help me please help me
[08:04] <yosdey> hello when leaving kubuntu 14.04 and final beta release where someone can help me please help me
[08:04] <yosdey> hello when leaving kubuntu 14.04 and final beta release where someone can help me please help me
[08:06] <yosdey> hello when leaving kubuntu 14.04 and final beta release where someone can help me please help me
[08:07] <rww> yosdey: 1) don't repeat yourself, 2) April 17th
[08:08] <yosdey> I say the beta not the final vercion
[08:09] <yosdey> sorry distro
[08:09] <yosdey> I say the beta not the final vercion
[08:10] <yosdey> I say the beta 2 not the final vercion
[08:10] <rww> !schedule-#ubuntu+1
[08:11] <yosdey> thanks it is today but, were is ???
[08:12] <rww> it'll be released when it's ready
[08:14] <yosdey> pero dicen que saldra la beta 2 o final hoy, sera asi
[08:14] <David1977> englisch only pleasy
[08:14] <yosdey> but say they will leave the beta 2 to end today, will also
[08:14] <David1977> pleasew
[08:14] <yosdey> but say they will leave the beta 2 to end today, will also
[08:15] <yosdey> but say they will leave the beta 2 to end today, will also
[08:16] <David1977> asking 1 time is absolutely enough. No one will answer faster, if you ask your question twice
[08:16] <David1977> The answer was already given. It will be released, when it's ready. So you have to wait
[08:18] <yosdey> ok, i am sorry, but is today or not ?
[08:18] <David1977> see, answers above
[08:21] <yosdey> why? struggle to help those who do not know
[08:21] <David1977> I give this up
[08:22] <yosdey> not ask for much, just tell me what day and on what page I download kubuntu 14.04 beta 2 to end
[08:23] <David1977> This is my last answer....in fact, that nobody know, when there will be a beta 2 of ubuntu 14.04, we can't say when it will be. So, it will be released, when it's ready. As all of us have to wait for this unknown day
[08:24] <David1977> This answer was already given. You won't get another answer just for the reason you don't like this one
[08:27] <yosdey> thanks for the help, when help of heart, he is patient to the person who does not know, besides my English is very bad so perhaps they did not understand the answer, but thank you bes more
[08:28] <David1977> you're welcome
[09:29] <Alarm> hello , i have installed kubuntu-desktop package. is there a way to start the login screen without rebooting the machine ?
[09:30] <Alarm> in other words, once the package is installed, instead of needing to restart to see the login screen , i would like 1) to get to the login screen of KDE, or 2) start the graphical environment for a specific user
[09:30] <Alarm> any option would be great
[09:34] <jussi> Alarm: just log out of whatever DE you are in. there should be then an option to log into kubuntu
[09:35] <Alarm> jussi: logout from where ? i will be in the console after the kubuntu installation
[09:35] <sbivol> Alarm: I think Xephyr is what you need
[09:36] <jussi> Alarm: oh, so you are not installing from unity ?
[09:36] <sbivol> Alarm: from the console do „sudo service lightdm start”
[09:36] <Alarm> jussi: i am in an ubuntu console. install kde and just want to go to the login screen without rebooting
[09:37] <Alarm> sbivol: thank you i will give this one a try :)
[09:38] <sbivol> Alarm: just to be clear, Xephyr is not needed for what you want to do. I thought you wanted to do something else. Start the lightdm service and you should be good
[09:38] <Alarm> ok , great :)
[09:47] <sbivol> is anyone using Kubuntu 14.04 in a non-english language? I'd like to find out if your plasmoids (like network management, K menu...) are translated. My Plasma doesn't seem to be picking up translations...
[09:54] <hateball> sbivol: check #kubuntu+1
[09:54] <hateball> As 14.04 is not released yet
[09:54] <sbivol> ok!
[10:28] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:44] <odium> Shoot, I just tried uninstalling samba and it uninstalled kde and various other essentials
[11:44] <odium> what should I do?
[11:45] <BluesKaj> reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[11:46] <odium> I just get errors
[11:46] <odium> dependency errors
[11:46] <odium> I'm so lost, I'm sorry
[11:46] <odium> I'm used to gentoo, arch and slackware
[11:47] <odium> buuut you guys got the symbols all right and I really like this distro
[11:49] <BluesKaj> odium, then reinstall kde-workspace then kubuntu-desktop
[11:50] <odium> is there a way to specify get all the dependencies using apt-get ?
[11:50] <odium> I'm going to be without a computer in about five minutes
[11:51] <odium> if I reboot this is useless
[11:51] <odium> wtf
[11:51] <odium> halp me.. I'm sinking into mud
[11:52] <BluesKaj> run apt-get -f install
[11:52] <odium> thank you
[11:53] <odium> i gnu the symbols wouldn't steer me wrong. thanks a million
[13:44] <EvilRoey> hi
[13:45] <EvilRoey> why don't I hear music?
[15:02] <dmatt> EvilRoey: turn volume up
[15:04] <ktester> Hi there, I'm testing Kubuntu 14.04 right now and I'm curious about the following problem: How do I switch between different languages in KDE apps spell checking?
[15:06] <ktester> For example, Konqueror or rekonq only allow to enable/disable spell checking as you write, but you can not choose which language to spell check (as it's possible in Firefox or Chromium for example)
[15:09] <EvilRoey> dmatt:  it's up to max on both hardware and software
[15:13] <dmatt> EvilRoey: can you hear sound from any other program or system sounds?
[15:14] <dmatt> EvilRoey: btw, sometimes is output HW set to HDMI or jack connector, in that case you have to set correct output first
[15:15] <EvilRoey> dmatt, I don't hear any sound.  Let me re-plug the headphones back in...
[15:16] <EvilRoey> dmatt:  hmm, I checked with alsamixer, and everything is set to 100%.
[15:16] <BluesKaj> sometimes after upgrades the intel hda driver fails to load, if that's what you use EvilRoey\
[15:17] <EvilRoey> at this point the next level involves replacing the headphones with another pair and seeing if the problem persists
[15:17] <EvilRoey> hrm.
[15:17] <EvilRoey> Blues, I suppose I can check in the dpkg log to see when snd-intel-* was upgraded
[15:18] <BluesKaj> snd-hda-intel
[15:18] <EvilRoey> 2014-03-18 11:34:26 install linux-image-3.11.0-18-generic:amd64 <none> 3.11.0-18.32
[15:18] <EvilRoey> the 18th.
[15:18] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey,, just run sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , but may have to reboot
[15:18] <EvilRoey> I think that's about when the sound stopped working
[15:18] <EvilRoey> okay thanks
[15:18] <dmatt> EvilRoey: lsmod|grep snd
[15:18] <EvilRoey> Blues I treid rebooting it didn't work
[15:19] <EvilRoey> dmatt, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4616fc915cb8d4a12643
[15:20] <dmatt> EvilRoey: i am not an expert but i do not see a problem in that
[15:20] <dmatt> EvilRoey: install "pavucontrol" and check if pulseaudio is not messing with sound output
[15:20] <EvilRoey> dmatt:  aye
[15:20] <EvilRoey> ok.
[15:21] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  snd_hda_intel is already loaded
[15:22] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey, check your system settings > multimedia>audio&video settings as well
[15:23] <EvilRoey> why is my output device, the only one listed in pavucontrol, the HDMI one, when I clearly have my headphones plugged into the headphone jack
[15:23] <EvilRoey> *why is the only output device listed in pavucontrol's Output tab the "HDMI" port?
[15:24] <BluesKaj> sbecause the driver isn't loaded even tho it seems so , it's a known intel driver bug
[15:24] <EvilRoey> ok
[15:24] <EvilRoey> so what should I be checking specifically
[15:24] <EvilRoey> Built-In Analog Stereo isthe preferred output device, I see.
[15:24] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  ^
[15:25] <BluesKaj> load the driver with command i gave and reboot
[15:25] <EvilRoey> k
[15:25] <EvilRoey> even if it is already loaded?
[15:25] <BluesKaj> yes , that's the bug , it appears to load , but isn't
[15:26] <BluesKaj> or doesn't
[15:26] <BluesKaj> rebooting makes it stick
[15:26] <EvilRoey> ok I loaded it
[15:26] <EvilRoey> still donmt' hear music
[15:26] <EvilRoey> now I will reboot as you instructed
[15:31] <Alarm> hello. i have some problems with the dependencies whenn installing kde. i have installed mysql 5.6 from ppa . and now i try to install also kde.
[15:32] <Alarm> aptitute tells me to remove :      Remove the following packages: 1)     mysql-client-5.6 2)     mysql-server-5.6 3)     mysql-server-core-5.6
[15:32] <Alarm> in order to install kde
[15:32] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  ahoy
[15:32] <EvilRoey> I have rebooted
[15:32] <EvilRoey> I still do not hear sound
[15:32] <Alarm> which is something that i do not want to do of course.
[15:33] <Alarm> is there a way to install kde ? while keeping also mysql from ppa ? i try to figure out how to get rid of this dependency problem
[15:33] <BluesKaj> ok EvilRoey now check your multimedia audio settings
[15:33] <EvilRoey> ok
[15:34] <EvilRoey> I'm there.
[15:34] <EvilRoey> what should I look for specifically
[15:34] <EvilRoey> ?
[15:34] <BluesKaj> device preference
[15:35] <sbivol> Hi, I have a question regarding sound: on most laptops and desktops I've seen, KMix sets HDMI as default sound output device. I think it's not quite the right thing, since HDMI is less used than the audio card. Is there a specific reason for this behaviour?
[15:36] <ktester> Hi there, I'm testing Kubuntu 14.04 right now and I'm curious about the following (general KDE?) problem: How do I switch between different languages in KDE apps spell checking?  For example, Konqueror or rekonq only allow to enable/disable spell checking as you write, but you can not choose which language to spell check (as it's possible in Firefox or Chromium). I write in German and English all the time, so I would like to
[15:36] <ktester> switch the spell checking language on the fly. Any ideas?
[15:36] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  Music -> Built-in Audio Analog Stereo
[15:36] <BluesKaj> sbivol, look atmy post above
[15:39] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey,also disable automute in alsamixer
[15:40] <EvilRoey> I did
[15:40] <EvilRoey> still don't hear anything
[15:40] <EvilRoey> and I turned up the volume
[15:40] <EvilRoey> both hard and osft
[15:41] <sbivol> BluesKaj: I know how to switch the master channel for KMix, I just don't get *why* is HDMI preferred instead of the internal audio card
[15:42] <EvilRoey> sbivol:  it's not necessarily preferred
[15:43] <EvilRoey> sbivol:  in KDE System Settings > Audi oPlayback > Music, I see "Built-in Audio Analogg Stereo" above "GK107 HDMI Audio Controller Digital Stereo (HDMI)"
[15:43] <BluesKaj> sbivol, it might be set as "Card 0" (default) in alsa-base.conf
[15:46] <BluesKaj> hdmi gets it's audio from the sound card/device , but the default audio output is set as hdmi so the regular audio out is bypassed . seems to happen a lot more lately
[15:50] <sbivol> I'm curious whether this should be aproached from the alsa configuration or from KMix's side...
[15:51] <sbivol> KMix preferences are per-user, which means that on a shared computer every user should change this setting... this is not really doable for an LDAP deployment
[15:54] <BluesKaj> sbivol, usually pulseaudio/pavucontrol settings take preference if they are installed
[15:54] <dmatt> EvilRoey: that sound problem is on notebook?
[15:57] <sbivol> BluesKaj: I'd be more in favor of a solution at the audio-device-registration level, when sound cards are detected they could (I guess) be arranged by category: output0..5 -> external sound cards, output6..9 internal sound cards, output10..15 HDMI outputs
[15:58] <sbivol> that would solve the problem regardless of the actual audio driver loading order
[15:59] <EvilRoey> dmatt:  desktop actually
[16:01] <BluesKaj> sbivol, it would be nice if the /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf settings/edits were stickier. he settings used to hold ebven after upgrades to the audio software, but now the audio settings seem to be willy-nilly.
[16:02] <dmatt> EvilRoey: if you play something, do you see movement in output bar in pavucontrol?
[16:03] <EvilRoey> yes I do
[16:03] <EvilRoey> indeed
[16:03] <EvilRoey> and this is for the Analog built-in one.
[16:03] <EvilRoey> dmatt:  ^
[16:05] <dmatt> EvilRoey: it means there is something going out of your soundcard, but it is lost on a way to your ear... everything plugged in correctly?
[16:06] <EvilRoey> correct
[16:06] <EvilRoey> and it worked presumably before I upgraded my kernel with a dist-upgrade on 3/18
[16:12] <dmatt> EvilRoey: run livecd to check if it works, if yes than downgrade kernel i suppose ...?
[16:12] <EvilRoey> dmatt:  that was my next thing, livecd
[16:12] <EvilRoey> to make sure it was the software and not hte hardware
[16:12] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey, sometimes alsamixer ctls are muted (MM) after kernel upgrades. it happened here a while back.
[16:16] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  aye
[16:33] <BluesKaj> BBL
[18:40] <m_tadeu> how can I enable a remote login on another machine with lightdm?
[18:46] <dcorbin> I'm trying to find the setting that shows the titlebar as full width.  I imagine it's a "theme" somewhere but haven't found one yet.  Any pointers?
[18:51] <qdata> dcorbin: not exactly sure of your question, but if you mean the window box title bar its systemsettings -> Workspace Appearance -> Window Decorations
[18:54] <dcorbin> qdata, That's it.  For some reason, I didn't recognize the list boxes the examples.  I was looking for combo box.
[18:54] <dcorbin> (dropdown) . Thanks
[18:54] <qdata> :-)
[19:32] <Phoenixz> I just installed kubuntu 14.04 beta1, I tried adding some info to kwallet, wanted to use the new GPG option, then got this message: "Seems that your system has no keys suitable for encryption. Please set-up at least an encryption key, then try again.".. okay, sure, great, will do... where? how?
[19:38] <Graf_Westerholt> Phoenixz, try KGpg ;)
[19:39] <Phoenixz> Graf_Westerholt: Sometimes I ask questions and at the answer I can only think... doh..?
[19:39] <Graf_Westerholt> Phoenixz sorry?
[19:40] <Phoenixz> Graf_Westerholt: That your answer was obvious, I could / should have figured that out myself :) I need coffee.. In any case, thanks for the help!
[19:40] <Graf_Westerholt> Phoenixz, I try to help, you need to be a bit more specific. ;)
[19:40] <Graf_Westerholt> Phoenixz, what does „doh“ mean?
[19:40] <Phoenixz> Graf_Westerholt: no no, Nothing against you, its against me... I should not have asked a question with such an obvious answer
[19:40] <Phoenixz> Graf_Westerholt: Homer Simpson, DOH!
[19:40] <Graf_Westerholt> Phoenixz oh ok no problem. :)
[19:40] <Phoenixz> that doh :)
[19:41] <Graf_Westerholt> Sorry, I do not understand that „doh“. ;)
[19:41] <Graf_Westerholt> I have no TV, I do not wath Simpson that often.
[19:41] <Graf_Westerholt> *watch
[19:41] <rww> it's not important
[19:41] <Graf_Westerholt> ok
[19:41] <Phoenixz> Thanks anyway!
[19:41] <Graf_Westerholt> It’s a pleasure! :)
[19:42] <rcw2> how do i bind text strings to keys
[20:42] <Phoenixz> I just installed Kubuntu 14.04 beta1, I understand that this has kde-connect.. I just installed it, also on my android. They are both on the same WiFi network, great.. and now what? I have found a "how to use it", but how do my KDE laptop and my phone actually connect? So far I have not found any way to connect them..
[20:44] <Phoenixz> I have checked system settings, there I see "kde connect", great! click.. just a screen with an empty list and nothing, no buttons, nothing.. there is a "reload" button on my kde connect app on my android, I click that, nothing either.. So how exactly do I connect my android phone to KDE then?
[20:48] <phoenixz> back
[20:48] <phoenixz> I rebooted, just to be sure, no effect, I still see nothing in system settings and nothing on my phone :( Anybody?
[22:38] <qww> hello
[22:38] <qww> i am new here and from start i need your help guys :)
[22:39] <qww> anyone is here :>?
[22:41] <qdata> qww: the normal thing on most irc is just simply ask the question, if someone sees it and thinks they might be able to help they may chime in
[22:41] <qdata> in other words don't ask to ask - just put the question out there
[22:42] <qdata> people come and go all day/night long depending on geography, time zones, etc
[22:44] <qww> i dont have xperience with irc sorry guys :)
[22:44] <qww> i got problem with pings and i think its auto update fault
[22:44] <qdata> not a problem - everyine starts somewhere  :-)
[22:44] <qww> i tried to find soultion one was to change etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic
[22:45] <qww> APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "0"; from 1 to 0 but i think it didnt work or its not real problem
[22:46] <qww> every other soultion would be for old version with software menager but i cant find it in 13.10
[22:46] <qdata> yes - I would put that back the way it was
[22:46] <qww> ok but then how to turn it off for real?
[22:47] <qww> i cant play dota 2 with ping 500 every 2min for 10sec :D
[22:47] <qdata> it's better to use the config menu in a relevant app such as muon - manually editing a file at random is something that should be a very last resort at best
[22:47] <qww> i cant find such option in muon
[22:48] <qdata> so why do you think ping is coming from softare update? it's also possible it's your irc client
[22:49] <qww> what irc client?
[22:49] <qww> the one i use now?
[22:49] <qdata> there is a ping and a pong between irc client and the server you're connected to so the server knows you're still there
[22:50] <qww> i only use pidgin but i used it on windows too and there was no problem
[22:50] <qdata> generally speaking a software update type of operation connects to and update server and checks for updates once a day
[22:51] <qww> any other idea?
[22:51] <qww> it cant be pidgin or its linux version thats bugged ;d?
[22:52] <qww> i dont use irc i connected here from kubuntu site via web browser
[22:52] <qdata> the reason I initially look at irc is it is built into the protocol to do this about 2 and something minutes or so, but it could always be something else
[22:52] <qww> i didnt mess with kubuntu as i installed it today
[22:53] <qdata> I don't know pidgin - tried it once and saw it was utter crap
[22:53] <qdata> that was a couple of years ago and have never looked at it since
[22:54] <qww> can i somehow check what cause such high pings?
[22:54] <qdata> well whenever something network-wise is going on the first thing I usually do is fire up Wireshark and look at the traffic
[22:54] <qdata> then some variant of netstat to try and narrow down what traffic may be attached
[22:54] <qww> ok i will check it now
[22:55] <qdata> I'm more knowlegeable about FreeBSD than Linux meself - FreeBSD has a sockstat command where you can immediately see what apps are connected to what socket very easily
[22:55] <qww> any tip how to do that fast ;d?
[22:56] <qdata> I'm sure Linux can do the same thing just I'm fuzzy there
[22:56] <qww> how to use that whireshark d;
[22:58] <qdata> wireshark is a network protocol analyzer and unless you have a lot of background with networking you won't understand anything from it
[22:58] <qww> so i am back where i was 10minutes ago ;d
[22:59] <qdata> I think you probably should work with the man page for netstat for a bit; it might assist you in trying to glean out which app is connected to the ping
[23:00] <qww> but how
[23:00] <qdata> aha - linux has a sockstat command as well, just not installed by default
[23:00] <qdata> man netstat
[23:01] <qdata> install sockstat then man sockstat
[23:01] <qww> you have to treat me like 5yo kid ;p
[23:01] <qdata> reading and learning are very important in the non-WinderZ world  :-)
[23:05] <qww_> great
[23:05] <qww_> i opened some stockstats related site and my browser crashed ;d
[23:06] <qdata> so use a real client
[23:06] <qdata> if you have kde konversation is pretty easy to start with
[23:07] <qww_> start with what?
[23:07] <qdata> but basically I fixated on irc because of your every 2 minutes or so time frame
[23:07] <qdata> irc
[23:07] <qww_> but i dont use irc ;/
[23:08] <qdata> you're using it right now
[23:08] <qdata> you're talking to me on it
[23:08] <qww_> anything that cause problem is default installed with kde
[23:08] <qww_> but problem is from before?
[23:08] <qww_> https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#kubuntu
[23:09] <qww_> my browser cant even open any irc (i got some error with :irc cant remember what that was but something like "i dont know what to do with that")
[23:10] <qdata> weird - I use kde and have a lot of network-centric apps open all the time and I have no problems, the only thing I don't do is game
[23:11] <qdata> so I don't know anything about gaming
[23:11] <qww_> its not about gaming
[23:11] <qdata> have you considered the idea it's not kde but the game?
[23:11] <qww_> i used some program and pinged google
[23:11] <qww_> i even got ping 900 in these 10sec frame
[23:11] <qww_> but normal ping is around 55-60
[23:12] <qww_> i may be stupid
[23:12] <qww_> but not retarded [;
[23:13] <qdata> the problem could also be associatted with your ISP and/or your firewall as well - for example a ping to google for is 21.3ms
[23:13] <qdata> the problem is also possibly latency on your ISP's end
[23:14] <qww_> all-systems.mcast.net - maybe you know what is that?
[23:15] <qdata> that sounds like multicast, which is a different beast than the 'normal' tcp/ip unicast packet
[23:16] <qdata> when you emit a ping from your box it is probably going out as a unicast, and a lot of gaming related stuff is multicast
[23:16] <qww_> again
[23:17] <qww_> 53 ping for 94 sec
[23:17] <qdata> but still, just trying to present some areas to gather more info on
[23:17] <qww_> and 600
[23:17] <qww_> i can reconnect to windows
[23:18] <qww_> but i can bet my hairs that snot that
[23:18] <qww_> its something within kubunt that cause high pings
[23:20] <qdata> sorry - can't help with 224.0.0.1 as I have that completely shutdown in my firewall
[23:21] <qww_> i only had winshit to play dota 2 i was so happy that they made it for linux ;<
[23:21] <qdata> I know very little about gaming I will confess  :-)
[23:22] <qww_> if you love your free time then dont try dota 2 ;)
[23:22] <qww_> still
[23:22] <qww_> problem have nothing to with games
[23:22] <qww_> to do ;d
[23:23] <qdata> can you traceroute 224.0.0.1 ?
[23:24] <qdata> I bet you are right though about it being something in kubuntu
[23:24] <qww_> looks like not
[23:26] <qww_> but i have wlan0 224.0.0.251 group ;d what is that? or 224.0.0.1?
[23:27] <qdata> that's the broadcast address for the igmp group associatted with 224.0.0.1
[23:27] <qww_> oh
[23:27] <qdata> err wait a minute that's wrong - I saw 255 instead of 251
[23:27] <qww_> no i know less than before ;d
[23:27] <qdata> I need some new eyeglasses
[23:27] <qww_> no = now
[23:29] <antonio_> !list
[23:30] <qww_> should i simply go back to winshit then :<?
[23:32] <qdata> I can't ping or traceroute either of those address, but I have my fiber router set to not do 224.0.0.0 based stuff so I'm stick being able to test that netowrk path unless I reconfig my royter
[23:33] <qdata> well I run WinderZ in Virtualbox for few occasions that I might want windows for something
[23:34] <qdata> be nicer to figure out how to get it to work in Linux though, probably take some doing though
[23:34] <qww_> i cant traceroute or ping too only some "search" (dunno i have other language)
[23:35] <qdata> shortcut to get back to game playing straight away would be to go back to Windows
[23:35] <qdata> but that's no challenge  :-)
[23:35] <qww_> when i search 224.0.0.1 i get
[23:36] <qww_> name 1.0.0.224.in-addr.arpa.
[23:36] <qww_> ttl 274 addres type in
[23:36] <qdata> but 224.x.x.x. stuff is reserved for multicast addressing as opposed to unicast
[23:36] <qww_> addres all-systems.mcast.net and some PTR
[23:37] <qww_> with 224.0.0.251 its 224.in-addr.arpa. ttl is 1848 type in
[23:37] <qww_> instead of ptr its soa
[23:38] <qww_> and addres sns.dns.icann.org noc.dns.icann.org. 2013112561 7200 ........
[23:38] <qww_> maybe you get any of it?
[23:39] <qdata> nope - I have all that turned off at my fiber router
[23:39] <qww_> should i do that too?
[23:39] <qdata> don't use it so I don't need it
[23:40] <qdata> I believe most games depend on multicast so no
[23:40] <qdata> but I think it is a multicast vs unicast issue
[23:41] <qww_> i am at my limit ;< already lost 4h tryin to do anything but nothing work ;<
[23:41] <qdata> windows works because it's config allows for a working multicast connection and I have a feeling kubuntu isn't set up to do multicast somehow
[23:42] <qww_> so it would cause ping to jump every 2 min for 10 sec and work fine for 1min 50seconds?
[23:42] <qww_> that does not sound right for me ;d
[23:43] <qdata> if they are both behind the same router or dsl/cable modem and windows works it makes me think you are right about it being kubuntu
[23:43] <qdata> doesn't sound right to me either,a t all
[23:44] <qww_> where is your kubuntu qdata
[23:45] <qww_> i think its time to install one and find reason for me i mean everyone:D
[23:47] <qdata> I goot arun - my apologies
[23:47] <qdata> phone call - something came up I gotta go deal with
[23:47] <qdata> I wish you lucj though
[23:47] <qww_> then what are you doin here
[23:47] <qww_> thx have nice day or good night :p
[23:48] <qdata> and it would be great to get multicast going properly for you game on Linux
[23:48] <qdata> best wishesa
[23:48]  * qdata runs out door....
[23:49] <qww_> anyone else have time and patience to help me?
[23:49] <qww_> how to turn auto updates in kubuntu???
[23:49] <qww_> turn off*
[23:50] <valorie> !update
[23:50] <valorie> hmmm
[23:52] <qww_> its for you or me valorie:)?
[23:55] <valorie> that was for you, but it's not helpful
[23:55] <qww_> there is no option to turn it off ;/
[23:55] <qww_> only about notifications
[23:56] <valorie> try this: alt+f2, then type update
[23:56] <valorie> that will get you into muon software updates
[23:56] <valorie> click More... button on the bottom left
[23:56] <qww_> http://postimg.org/image/gy503qdy5/
[23:57] <valorie> choose Configure Muon Update Manager, and turn off auto-updating there
[23:58] <valorie> ah, you're right
[23:58] <valorie> but you can turn off notifications
[23:59] <qww_> i dont think its same thing ;d
[23:59] <qww_> they will look for updates without notifications if i am right