[00:02] rpadovani, you can build reminders with click-buddy as well [00:03] sergiusens, this seems a very interesting thing [00:03] I'll try on this new image, if it's work no more writable images for me :-) [00:20] sergiusens, mhh, doesn't work, tomorrow I'll do a full wipe and try again. Thanks for the help, I'll ping you tomorrow :-) [00:20] rpadovani, great; if it's just dev do full wipe; if not, just delete /userdata/.writable-image [00:21] or with an underscore; I forget [00:21] mhall119: ping [00:27] daker: pong [00:28] mhall119: can you tes a click package for me ? [00:28] test* [00:29] sure, send me a link [00:29] http://ubuntuone.com/6bFY5Yrl6q7MbPYNmyZTa2 [00:30] daker: webapp or local? [00:30] local html5 game [00:34] daker: speed is great and audio works [00:34] it doesn't quite fix the screen though [00:34] http://ubuntuone.com/3UHvf4F5lZmX03O48EosvA [00:34] and http://ubuntuone.com/02yuoz4VYcagd5iVvdE3mC [00:35] can you rotate the phone & refresh ? [00:35] also, I'd be concerned about legal issues if you put it in the store under your developer account [00:35] daker: second link above is it rotated [00:36] ya it's designed for FF OS 480px i think... [00:42] hey mhall119 or popey, I see dpm and dholbach aren't on at the moment. I was thinking about proposing an app dev school in my local area (Minneapolis, MN) since I know the LoCo used to be tied to the University of MN. I'm going to contact their mailing list--I've never been a part of our LoCo team. Anything else I should do in proposing an app dev school session? CC anyone? === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [00:46] vthompson: blog about it, g+/twitter/facebook about it [00:46] that's really it [00:46] get the app dev schools material [00:47] K, I'm not sure the LoCo is even active any more. I'll draw up an enticing email and send it [01:07] daker: are you just using the FFOS app's sources? === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [07:29] good morning [07:48] Goodmorning [07:54] good morning [08:06] ybon, ping !! [08:13] mihir: pong [08:17] ybon, are you working on bug 1297739 [08:17] Launchpad bug 1297739 in Ubuntu Calendar App "Event repeat options should match google calendar." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1297739 [08:17] ? [08:21] mihir: not at the moment [08:22] I was expecting that popey would answer your point on the thread [08:33] m-b-o: ybon I agree we need design input. ☻ [08:33] i just wanted to get it recorded that it needs doing [08:37] popey dpm: moin! As today is hack day perhaps the open mp can be reviewed? I'm still waiting.... [08:38] popey: okay :) [08:47] m-b-o, yes, I've put it in my agenda for today (and sorry for the delay) [08:56] dpm: Can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/ubuntu-clock-app/fix-1290492-clock/+merge/210321 and https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/fix-qtcreator-device-test/+merge/206690 when you have time? [08:56] dpm: they are both quite small [08:58] nik90, I'll do my best, but I'm a bit busy today with updating scopes documentation on d.u.c. If not today, I can probably do it tomorrow. I'm doing the weather reviews now, though, as I've been promising m-b-o I'd do them for a while [08:58] and the Weather hack day is a good opportunity for that :) [08:58] dpm: no problem :) [09:01] nik90: http://popey.com/~alan/phablet/device-2014-03-27-090104.png [09:01] nik90: i get that on two devices, yet i can login to their site on my laptop browser [09:02] popey: hmm, let me check === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [09:18] popey: funny thing is the authentication fails for me on the phone. But on trying it on flashback in the desktop, it passed..Puzzled! [09:25] popey: found it! the SHA1 encryption I use generates different results on phone and desktop [09:25] hence the authentication fails [09:25] nik90: hah! [09:31] hi mihir, are you around? [09:35] dpm, yes [09:35] popey, thank you. [09:35] ybon, got it. [09:35] ybon, if you get a time could you please review my MRs ? [09:36] Good morning all; happy Spanish Paella Day! :-D [09:36] mmmmm paella === oSoMoN_ is now known as oSoMoN [09:44] hi mihir, sorry, I jumped into a call [09:44] mihir, are you interested in working on some new bugs for Calendar? [09:44] dpm, i am already working.. [09:44] i have 3 MRs in reviews. [09:45] review* [09:46] mihir, ok, cool. In any case, if you're looking for something once you're done, here's a list of bugs that came from dogfooding feedback if you'd be interested. [09:51] mihir, added a comment to https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni-123/ubuntu-calendar-app/1248130/+merge/212305 [09:53] dpm, looking into it. [09:55] dpm, i didn't know ybon is working on that..this task has been assigned to me, so I started working on that. [10:01] mihir: commented on https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni-123/ubuntu-calendar-app/1295941/+merge/212998 [10:03] nik90, thank you. Commented back on MR. [10:04] mihir: approved [10:05] nik90, Thanks a lot. [10:14] zsombi, on the DatePicker component, is there a way to change the order of e.g. "26 Saturday" to "Saturday 26" in the day picker? I've read the documentation, but I still cannot quite grasp whether that is hardcoded, modifyable, or set from the locale. The reason I'm asking is because in my locale, the ordering "$DAYNR $DAYNAME" should be the other way around: http://i.imgur.com/JXt1w7N.png [10:15] is that datepicker also comming to HTML5 ? [10:16] justCarakas, alex_abreu can probably tell you more when he's online in a few hours [10:16] or daker ? [10:16] dpm: the format and the order is taken from the locale, and seems than in your case Qt returns the wrong default value [10:18] hm, that's weird, it surprises me that the ca locale has wrong ordering and it would have gone unnoticed for so long, but I'll investigate, thanks zsombi! [10:20] dpm: this is what DatePicker uses to get the format: Qt.locale.dateFormat(Locale.ShortFormat) [10:21] dpm: try to print it out. if you see the order is right, then we need to check DatePicker [10:21] ok, cool, will try that [10:28] zsombi, why the colors looks weird any idea? [10:29] mihir: that's a vague question :) define works wrong :) [10:29] or works weird :D [10:29] zsombi, got it , because in my it shows correctly..need to look at that.. [10:29] ehh... looks weird... I have too many chats :D [10:31] zsombi, is there a way to define the default minute increments in DatePicker? bug 1297725 suggests to use 15 or 30 minute increments to set event times, but after reading the docs I cannot see a way to see the increment in DatePicker other than by the minute [10:31] Launchpad bug 1297725 in Ubuntu Calendar App "Event time selection should be in 30 min increments" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1297725 [10:34] dpm, i guess we can set the HOURS and TIME [10:35] mihir, how do you mean exactly? [10:36] dpm, I had set date based on the text box like that.. [10:36] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7161994/ [10:36] this* , so there should be a way to set time as well. [10:37] dpm: do we have some visuals for that bug? [10:37] dpm: I do not see reason to use DatePicker there to be honest... [10:38] dpm: as that picker would have two tumblers, one for an hour and one for two values in the minutes tumbler, which is insave and visually bad [10:39] zsombi, you meant to say, in setting time ? [10:40] mihir: yes... I'm looking at the proposal png in the bug [10:40] its' ugly! [10:40] two sliders... [10:40] zsombi, we don't have visuals. I don't know how we could actually implement it, that's also why I added my last comment that in any case we'd need a way to specify the individual minutes. I was just wondering if there was any way to set the increment to another value than 1 minute at all in the picker. I think if we want that functionality requested in the bug, we'd need a time picker similar to the one clock uses for alarms [10:40] oh, I hadn't seen the picture! [10:40] * dpm looks [10:41] zsombi, agreed. [10:41] dpm: mihir: I'd suggest you to use one Picker, and put 24hstuff in it with a step of 15mins [10:41] dpm, in that case our old timepicker which has been developed by Kunal will work [10:41] mihir: the only issue with it is that you have to have it in a popover :/ [10:42] zsombi, if you have quick time [10:42] https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni-123/ubuntu-calendar-app/1248130/+merge/212305 [10:42] or you put it inside an Expandable! [10:42] mihir: that would be much better! [10:42] * zsombi looking [10:42] thx dpm [10:43] can you look at this MR. just pull it , we just kept date chagne and time is as usual old which was there earlier in Calendar [10:44] zsombi, regarding the question on locale ordering on DatePicker, Qt.locale().dateFormat(Locale.ShortFormat) doesn't seem to be where it's getting it from. That returns "dd/MM/yy" [10:45] dpm: and isn't that the way DatePicker show th edate? day/month/year? [10:46] zsombi, it shows "day_number day_name" on the day picker [10:46] and I'd expect it to show "day_name day_number" [10:46] dpm: yes, becaus ethere's enough space for it. Read the doc :) [10:47] dpm: that's what I said: Qt returns dd/MM/yy so the day is in front, then comes the months and the year. [10:47] dpm: if you want a different format, try to specify a different locate [10:48] dpm perhaps some specific config to the locale would do the job... [10:48] zsombi, I get where dd/MM/yy comes from and how it's used, but I still don't understand where the ordering in the dd part comes front [10:48] sorry, *from [10:50] dpm: you mean the dd/MM ordering? Qt takes those from system defaults. We discussed this with mzanetti some time ago, that the default from Qt is messed up... he might know some upstream bug for that... if there's any [10:50] zsombi, no, I mean just dd [10:50] dpm: what's wrong with that? [10:51] zsombi, in my locale I should have "Saturday 26", but I'm shown "26 Saturday" [10:52] dpm: aaaah, now that's a bug! sorry, I didn't got it. [10:52] well, translated that would be "dissabte 26" (expected) vs "26 dissabte" (actual) [10:52] dpm: DayModel.qml [10:52] ah, ok [10:52] * mzanetti doesn't know any upstream bug about this [10:53] :( [10:53] dpm: line 78: return Qt.formatDate(thisDate, "dd ") + mainComponent.locale.dayName(thisDate.getDay(), Locale.LongFormat); [10:53] zsombi, any inputs ? [10:53] dpm: so there's a bug in both DayModel and MonthModel [10:53] mihir: I am pretty bad in multitasking, sorry :) [10:54] zsombi, ah, yeah, I see it. Will file a bug, thanks for helping getting to the bottom of that! [10:54] mihir: I'd suggest you to use PickerPanel instead of DatePicker in Dialog [10:54] dpm: I thank you for finding it :) [10:55] mihir: we should use PickerPanel for DatePickers whenever possible. [10:55] zsombi, okay...but time picking should be same or we should change it to datepicker ? [10:55] mihir not gone that far yet [10:56] mihir: you need those 15 min steps, right? [10:57] it has to be 30 mins..as per bug reported and google calendar [10:57] this is custom timepicker [10:57] developed when there was no picker available in our development kit [10:59] mihir: well, atm is inconsistent :) [10:59] mihir: and if you don't need those 30min steps, then you should not use DatePicker at all [11:00] we need that. [11:00] mihir: but you could use a Picker and a model where you have 24h with 30 min steps [11:00] for changing date we have to use DatePicker anyhow, we are in sceptical for time choosing, [11:01] mihir: and file a bug, so yuou can use PickerPanel with custom Picker component! [11:01] zsombi, okay got it, so you meant to say, use PickerPanel for choosing Dates & custom timePicker for changing time with gap of 30 mins [11:01] have i got it correctly ? [11:02] mihir: yes. the timePicker should be a Picker! [11:02] okay [11:02] mihir: and yet put it in a Popover, not in a dialog [11:02] zsombi, i'll file a bug and thanks a lot for the clarification. [11:03] mhall119: yes [11:03] mihir: welcome! [11:03] mihir: when you got the bug, give me the ID so I can assign it [11:03] popey: thanks mhall119 tested the package for me [11:03] mihir: and put a FIXME comment in your code, so you know when the bug is done, you can switch to use that [11:05] zsombi, bug 1298306 for the DatePicker day format ordering [11:05] Launchpad bug 1298306 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "Do not hardcode ordering of day number and day name in DatePicker" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1298306 [11:06] dpm: thanx! [11:07] unbeliveable, I cannot do anything with that bug! LP kicks me out :/ [11:08] time out issues? I've been having quite a lot of them in the last few days [11:10] zsombi, bug #1298307 [11:10] Launchpad bug 1298307 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "PickerPanel with custom Picker component" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1298307 [11:10] mihir: thx!!! [11:10] zsombi, you are welcome :) [11:11] dpm, we can discuss this thing in our today's meeting and can move ahead [11:11] these things* [11:14] mihir, yes. popey, mihir, shall we make the Calendar meeting a hangout today, similarly to what we did with Music? [11:15] great idea. [11:19] dpm, at same time ?? [11:19] popey, are we gonna get any designer inputs ? we need them. [11:19] because changing after developing would be tedious task , so better we can get inputs and then develop. [11:22] popey: it's Cut the rope game === asdf is now known as Guest13093 [11:27] mihir, yes, that's why I've tagged the bug as 'needs-design' and asked michelR to provide some input. But I'm not sure if he'll be participating in the Calendar meeting [11:28] dpm, are we still open for designer calls ? [11:28] mihir, what do you mean? [11:28] designers for our community ? [11:29] like developers. [11:30] mihir, you mean if we're open to get more community designers to the team? Absolutely! If you know of any, just let us know [11:34] dpm, sure !!! i'll ask === oSoMoN_ is now known as oSoMoN === marcoceppi is now known as marco_traveling [12:11] alex_abreu, do you know what the status of the datepicker for HTML5 is is ? === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:43] justCarakas, we havent started on it yet === alex_abreu is now known as alex-abreu === jhodapp|afk is now known as jhodapp [12:44] alex-abreu: any idea when we can expect it ? and, do we need to replace the datepickers we use in the meantime than with the new datepicker ? [12:45] justCarakas, no eta yet, we will start on new ui bits next week though ... you can definitely use any date picker in the meantime though, no constraints there [12:47] k, so I gues there won't be updates to the HTML5 while the app showdown is still open ? [12:49] justCarakas, this is a possiblity but unlikely at this point, there will be updates to the js API bindings though I think [12:49] popey, do you know what's going on with the review of this app? I'm not really sure I understand his problem: https://plus.google.com/105824122847813147186/posts/1Ca2Ey42wVg [12:49] alex-abreu, anyway Im looking forward to it. Its realy nice to work with the UI already but I cant wait till it is more complete [12:50] justCarakas, yes we are working on it, the pieces are coming together [12:50] alex-abreu is there a way I can help with it after the app showdown is over ? [12:52] dpm: lemme see [12:52] dpm: i think dholbach may have bounced it, I don't even know what app it is! [12:52] and the website doesn't allow me to search by developer [12:54] ah, maybe zbird [12:54] justCarakas, sure any help is welcome [12:55] alex-abreu nice :D [12:56] dpm: left a comment [13:00] popey, cool, thanks! === jhodapp is now known as jhodapp|brb [13:17] Is there a irc channel for questions about the core apps? [13:20] tempnickname: you're in it! === jhodapp|brb is now known as jhodapp [13:30] popey: thanks! [13:30] I'm playing around with music-app, and when I open it I get a message "No Music Found. Please Import Music and restart the app" [13:30] How do I import music? [13:34] pkunal-parmar: we are having hangout today ! [13:34] tempnickname: are you using it on the desktop or on a mobile device? [13:34] popey: will update us with invitation:) [13:34] popey: desktop [13:34] ok [13:34] Back when I was running 13.10 I had it working at some point, but I can't figure it out now [13:35] done Mihir [13:35] tempnickname: the music needs to be in ~/Music and you need to run mediascanner to find them [13:35] Mediascanner, that's it [13:35] Thanks [13:37] popey: uhhhh, that's the path to mediascanner? [13:37] popey, dpm, did you resolve the zbird situation? [13:37] dholbach: left a comment for the dev [13:37] tempnickname: it's called mediascanner-service and once installed it should be in the path [13:38] Ok thanks [13:38] popey, hum... you approved it? [13:39] join #ubuntu-touch-meeting [13:39] dholbach: no [13:39] dholbach: sorry, yes.. he removed the bits, didnt he? [13:43] thanks [14:03] pkunal-parmar: we are waiting for you ! [14:36] kyleN, dpm, mhall119: I assume you won't have too much time to go through a bunch of ubuntudeveloperportal bugs today? [14:37] dholbach, kyleN and I will be busy with scopes stuff today, unfortunately :( [14:37] so we push back by a week? [14:37] dholbach, I apologize but I am extremely busy. can we postpone [14:37] dholbach, sounds good, I should have time if we push it back a week [14:37] ok cool, will do [14:39] thanks dholbach! [14:45] popey, another dogfooding bug assigned, nice! bug 1280612 [14:45] Launchpad bug 1280612 in Ubuntu Calendar App "do not display map when no location" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1280612 [14:46] if anyone is up for a trivial review on Calendar to encourage a new contributor, here's a nice opportunity! ^ [14:48] yay [15:00] popey, I sent a mail to ubuntu-phone about the security policy groups [15:00] Hi, is there any guides available for doing qml extensions? I cannot get things working anynmore, with the old SDK the way I did things worked.. [15:00] hello [15:03] dpm: thanks for mentioning :) [15:03] marcinello, thanks for your work! [15:08] dholbach: great! === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch [16:23] mhall119, how could I fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntudeveloperportal/+bug/1286651? is that in the theme somewhere which needs to be fixed in bzr? [16:23] Launchpad bug 1286651 in Ubuntu App Developer site "404 | Community | Developer.Ubuntu.Com" [Undecided,New] [16:25] marcinello, here's another bitesize bug that could be good to look at. Would you be interested in picking this one up? bug 1297463 [16:25] Launchpad bug 1297463 in Ubuntu Weather App "App should start with larger window on desktop" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1297463 [16:44] dpm: yes, I can take care of that too [16:44] marcinello, excelent! I saw you know how it works, so feel free to assign it to yourself [16:45] dpm: assigned, thanks [16:45] \o/ === bfiller is now known as bfiller_afk [16:49] dpm: i was thinking of looking at bug 1267814, you know of any info setting up google sync with calendar?, it's likey useing syncevolution: [16:49] Launchpad bug 1267814 in Ubuntu Calendar App "Sync'ed calendar events don't appear at the correct time" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1267814 [16:49] blaroche, exactly [16:50] blaroche, this is probably one of the most important bugs we've got right now, so if you're interested in that one, that'd be a fix that would really make a difference [16:51] blaroche, if you are on 14.04, you can just set up a google account in system settings > online accounts [16:52] and then tick the Calendar switch [16:52] i can take it and look at it tonight. it would be about 6+ hours before i can look into. [16:52] you can easily try it on the desktio [16:52] blaroche, that'd be awesome [16:52] *desktop, I mean [16:52] ok. on 14.04 i'll test on desktop, and see what I can find [16:53] blaroche, excellent, please assign the bug to yourself once you start looking at it, so that we can coordinate the work with anyone else willing to help on that one [16:53] and thanks! [16:53] yw [17:00] * popey hugs blaroche [17:01] thanks popey, i'm going to choose to feel happy about that ;) [17:02] :D === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox [17:24] dpm: I mentioned the hangout on twitter - should we mention it somewhere else as well? [17:25] dholbach, I've just done it on G+ and FB :) [17:25] for some reason I couldn't post it on the G+ page nor in the G+ community [17:25] ah great [17:25] * dholbach hugs dpm [17:25] I'll take the dog for a quick walk and brb [17:25] let me do it on the app dev page too, I've only done the g+ community [17:25] ok [17:26] ok, done it on the G+ page now too === gcollura is now known as gcollura|afk [17:58] http://ubuntuonair.com/ is updated now as well [17:59] ^ in case you're interested in Ubuntu App Dev Schools === marco_traveling is now known as marcoceppi [17:59] You have the session today, right? [17:59] yeah, we had one yesterday and one in just a few seconds :) [17:59] And thanks for looking at my suggestions for the community.ubuntu.com page [18:00] belkinsa, thanks for bringing them up in the first place [18:00] it took me a while :) [18:00] Not a problem. [18:02] if you have questions, please prefix them with QUESTION: :) [18:03] if you made it here, you might be interested in this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoRunningAppDevSchool [18:07] do we have questions so far? [18:07] technical questions? organisational questions? [18:08] I guess I do. [18:08] belkinsa, nice - what's your question? [18:08] QUESTION: Is is possible to do organize a App Development School virtually within the LoCo? [18:16] any more questions? === bfiller_afk is now known as bfiller [18:29] QUESTION: I am going to be giving an introduction to Ubuntu App Development lesson at LinuxFest Northwest (A big linux conference in Bellingham, Washington, USA). What is the best way for me to promote this session to the existing Ubuntu community? A fair bit of the marketing is already done since it is at an established conference. [18:32] cool ideas, thanks, guys! [18:33] rock on! :) [18:33] micah2: just mention jono, dholbach or dpm in a tweet [18:33] that might work as well ;-) [18:33] micah2: then the world will know about your event ;) [18:33] or @ubuntuappdev [18:34] micah2, happy to promote it :-) [18:34] thanks a bunch! :) [18:34] thanks, jono [18:34] micah2, just mail me the details [18:35] brb [18:35] jono, will do [18:37] micah2, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoRunningAppDevSchool [18:38] popey, for the presentation I'm going to do on Ubuntu app development, I was thinking of walking through the code of an app like Stallboard. Is the source for Stallboard available on Launchpad? [18:38] micah2, and make sure that your event is in the app dev schools world map: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2677/ [18:38] if you need any help, ping me or dholbach [18:38] micah2: no, but it's just a fork of https://launchpad.net/animal-farm [18:39] okay, good to know. Maybe I should make a Lunduke board. [18:40] BTW, popey, thank you for Stallboard. It is lots of fun surprising my wife with the sound of Stallman declaring "this is egregious" :) [18:40] lol [18:41] dpm, I'll put the event on the map. I've looked around the LocoRunningAppDevSchool site, I'll consider if some of it will fit into my 50 minute window. [18:44] micah2, cool! [18:45] micah2, feel free to pick any content from the presentation materials, I'm sure you can reuse part of it for your 50 mins presentation [18:47] dpm, how do I add my event to the app dev schools world map? Do I have to be a member of a LoCo? [18:50] micah2, yes, although if there is no one from a LoCo around, perhaps mhall119 as an admin of the LoCo site can help you add your event [18:50] I'll send him the details later and ask him to add it. [18:51] micah2, excellent! [18:51] thanks for all the guidance, dpm [18:52] no worries, looking forward to seeing up there, it will not only give it visibility, it will also encourage other teams! [19:03] 23:00 in Saint-Petersburg, too late for questions:) [19:46] renato: thanks for merging my address book branch. [19:47] renato: can I get a review on the other two? [19:47] elopio, which one? [19:47] https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/address-book-app/fill_form-professional/+merge/208929 [19:47] https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/address-book-app/fill_form-profesional-update/+merge/208930 [19:49] renato: those two ^ [19:49] good, [19:49] I've already merged then with trunk. [19:49] I am about to release a new version of the address-book-app [19:49] I will check those after [19:51] renato: thanks. === jhodapp is now known as jhodapp|bbl === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === gcollura|afk is now known as gcollura [20:52] sergiusens, I want to cry :( I did a full bootstrap of my device, but click-buddy doesn't work. What do I do wrong? === jhodapp|bbl is now known as jhodapp === salem_ is now known as _salem === jhodapp is now known as jhodapp|afk === jhodapp|afk is now known as jhodapp === jhodapp is now known as jhodapp|afk === mhall119 is now known as mhall119|offline