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pittiGood morning06:12
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ritzchrisccoulson, hi, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1197559 . any thoughts on adding this to precise, or do we wait for ff v29 ?08:50
ubot2Launchpad bug 1197559 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Regression: Firefox forgot how to open apt urls" [Medium,Triaged]08:50
seb128good morning desktopers!09:02
seb128ritz, oh, nice, thanks for fixed that one!09:02
Laneyhey09:03
seb128Laney, hey, how are you?09:04
Laneynot bad, but I hurt my elbow at climbing last night09:04
Laneylanded on my arm weirdly after a fall09:04
seb128:-(09:04
Laneyi think it's sprained09:05
Laneyho hum09:05
Laneyhow are you?09:05
seb128is it hurt enough that you need to keep it rested for a dew days?09:05
seb128I'm good!09:05
Laneynah don't think so09:05
ritzseb128, yw :)09:09
ritzseb128,  bonjour09:09
sabdflp09:17
Laneyt!09:17
Laneyp is so two years ago09:17
seb128;-)09:17
seb128happyaron, hey, could you have a look to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/ibus/+bug/1284635 when you have some free slots? it seems to impact !Unity session (wrong layout being set, apparently by ibus and since the most recent upstream version)09:18
ubot2Launchpad bug 1284635 in ibus (Ubuntu Trusty) "Keyboard layout changes after login" [High,Confirmed]09:18
mlankhorstmorning09:34
Laneyguten tag mlankhorst09:37
mlankhorstg'day mate09:38
Laneywie gehts?09:39
mlankhorstterrible :P09:39
mlankhorstwaking up with rcu in the morning09:39
mlankhorstyou?09:39
Laneypoor rcu (whatever it is)09:41
Laneyalso not ideal as I hurt my elbow at climbing09:42
Laneyotherwise GOOD!09:42
mlankhorstread-copy-update, a kernel mechanism09:42
Trevinhoseb128: fyi here's the error I was talking about in dejadup: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7162038/10:44
GunnarHjseb128: ping?10:58
ritzseb128, wrt https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/880493 , will this do https://code.launchpad.net/~khadgaray/synaptic/precise-nb-fix . Do do I need to create a debdiff ?11:21
ubot2Launchpad bug 880493 in synaptic (Ubuntu Quantal) "Synaptic crashes in vfprintf() with Norwegian locale" [Medium,Confirmed]11:21
Trevinhoseb128: so I got another of my freezes (evolution now)... and it seems that it happens on a sync call to org.gtk.vfs.Mount11:24
Trevinhoseb128: bt http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7162169/11:25
Laneywee, I think I found a fix for that tz bug11:29
Laneyyay11:43
Trevinhoseb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/129833011:57
ubot2Launchpad bug 1298330 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "GtkFileChooserDialog hangs in org.gtk.vfs.Mount QueryInfo" [Undecided,New]11:57
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ricotzSweetshark, hi, i was about to ask you NOT to copy your build to the ppa12:35
ricotz(while is has the same version as the official build will have and this might ask for trouble if those are mixed)12:36
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LaneyMirv: how do I track a Qt change after it's merged to staging?12:45
LaneyMirv: ah, nm, I see that it's internal12:49
* Mirv nm:s12:51
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seb128Trevinho, tell mterry, he's maintaining deja-dup upstream/in ubuntu13:10
seb128ritz, debdiff is better if you can13:10
Trevinhoseb128: yeah I was waiting for him to join :)13:11
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Trevinhomterry: so... this is what dejadup says to me after some time that tries to backup my data to u1: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7162038/13:11
seb128Trevinho, not sure about the gvfs hang :/13:11
Trevinhoseb128: it surely depends on some bookmarks I have...13:11
mterryTrevinho, huh.   Not sure why that would happen13:12
Trevinhoseb128: although I've just 3 ssh connections where one is ubuntu, one is mostly unavailable (local server, on different ip mask, but that shouldn't cause any hang)... so I've no idea what could delay13:13
Trevinhonext time I get it I should identify the process that the gtk item calls via dbus...13:13
Trevinhobtw I don't see the reason why that call should be sync13:13
ritzseb128,  ok, thanks :)13:13
Trevinhomterry: yeah pretty weird... can I do something for helping debug?13:14
mterryTrevinho, I guess file a deja-dup bug.  It will tell you how to get logs13:14
Trevinhomterry: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/deja-dup/+bug/1298379 but apport didn't make me attach anything extra13:18
ubot2Launchpad bug 1298379 in deja-dup (Ubuntu) "Deja-dup always fails to backup to u1 on OSError: No such file or directory: '/tmp/duplicity-7ynjzg-tempdir/tmpXnMr4f'" [Undecided,New]13:18
mterryTrevinho, ah.  The instructions are on the upstream bug form.  Start filing a bug against the deja-dup project just to see what it asks of you.  Then you can add that to your ubuntu bug13:19
jdstrandif I wanted to file a bug on keyboard navigation in the Dash on the desktop, which package would I file it against?13:19
ritzSweetshark, bad news,  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1200277 , looking for deployment by april 23rd13:19
ubot2Launchpad bug 1200277 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[LibreOffice] - libreoffice-writer.desktop when drag/drop to desktop, 100% broken. " [Medium,Fix committed]13:19
ritzon precise13:20
Trevinhomterry: ah, btw I've noticed that.... the folders it seems to complain is actually at /home/marco/.cache/deja-dup/8cf8eb6c99f325880c12faa64552cfcd/duplicity-A6aW_9-tempdir13:20
Trevinhonot in /tmp/13:20
jdstrandI guess unity13:20
seb128jdstrand, unity13:20
jdstrandhehe13:20
seb128;-)13:20
jdstrandseb128: thanks :)13:20
seb128yw!13:20
mterryTrevinho, huh.  looks like someone somewhere used the wrong prefix.  That's useful intel, can you please add it to the bug?  :)13:21
Trevinhoyes13:21
GunnarHjHi seb128!13:22
rickspencer3wow, haven't dist-upgraded for a while, I guess ... 450megs to download!13:23
seb128GunnarHj, hey13:26
GunnarHjseb128: You can't have two uploads of the same package in the trusty queue, right?13:27
seb128you can13:28
seb128queues don't check for existing versions or duplicates13:28
GunnarHjseb128: Ok... I uploaded l-s, and now there has arised a reason to make another change. So that won't be a problem?13:28
seb128GunnarHj, well, you can bump the version again, or reupload the same version and ask for the previous upload to be rejected, easier to just bump the version again, both can be accepted13:29
GunnarHjseb128: The new thing is unrelated. Can I just make another upload with a new version as usual?13:30
seb128yes13:31
seb128just work as if we were not frozen13:31
GunnarHjseb128: Ok, thanks!13:31
seb128yw13:31
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jibelseb128, do you have a master bug or the link to errors.u.c for bug 1298288 ?13:47
ubot2Launchpad bug 1298288 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "gtk-update-icon-cache-3.0 crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129828813:47
seb128jibel,13:48
seb128https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/51867c7babfc41c749a4ed34ba54148f534a28c113:48
seb128there are few different entries and reports13:48
jibelthanks13:50
seb128but I wonder if that could be the same issue than the gdk-pixbuf one we also have during those upgrades (Laney uploaded a precise SRU for that one)13:50
seb128the bt seems different though, which suggest it's not13:50
jibelseb128, I saw it too, but it was unreportable (?) because it happened on previous version of the binary13:51
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mterrylarsu, so that color issue in deja-dup wasn't an upstream one?13:54
larsumterry: no. It's overlay-scrollbars13:55
larsu(don't ask)13:55
seb128(you can feel the love for those)13:56
mterry:)13:56
Laneyseb128: back, still on the call?14:43
Laneyseems not14:46
Laneywait that's at 15:00!14:46
seb128Laney, it's in 10 min14:50
Laneyyou know, one day I'll remember this meeting 100% correctly14:50
Laneyand not like forget to have lunch until the time it's supposed to start or join an empty hangout14:51
seb128lol14:52
seb128Laney, btw you should try again to make hangout use your webcam/mic14:53
seb128that would be nicer than using your phone, your audio is usually low/barely understandable14:53
seb128it's good that had added the audio over-level option14:53
Sweetsharkritz: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/precise/3.5.7/ubuntu6/ <- is ready for SRUing, still handling the details on if we push that via -security or -updates. but in general with should have that ready bein April 23rd on precise.14:59
ritzSweetshark, sweet, thank you :)14:59
Sweetsharkritz: ... or, if not, it at least wasnt blocking on me ;)14:59
Sweetsharkseb128: ^^14:59
Laneyseb128: hmm ok i'll try it this time14:59
LaneyI think I did get some hangout plugin updates since then15:00
ritzhehe15:00
seb128Sweetshark, right, let's wait for security to reply first, we can nudge them if needed15:00
seb128Laney, thanks, or try after the meeting for next time if you think that's safer15:00
Laneymight as well give it a go now15:01
seb128Laney, tedg, charles, larsu, mpt: settings meeting?15:01
charlesseb128, sure15:02
Laney"Your microphone is not working or is hardware-muted!"15:03
seb128Laney, did you try to go in system settings?15:03
Laneyyeah I can record audio from it15:03
seb128to see if mic is muted/the right mute is selected?15:03
seb128Laney, coming back from your phone?15:05
cyphermoxcking: so yesterday I couldn't reproduce your bug, but I did write a patch that might help anyway15:22
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ckingcyphermox, ok, I never double checked to see if I can still see this ussue15:24
cking*issue15:24
ckingI did a clean install on tuesday, so my machine is relatively "untainted"15:25
ckingcyphermox, with 0.9.8.8-0ubuntu5 I don't see the ofono inotify watch being added now15:29
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ricotzSweetshark, ping15:37
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cyphermoxcking: weird... -0ubuntu5 was uploaded much before tuesday :)15:42
cyphermoxcking: I'll upload with my patch anyway; it's useless to even try to add the inotify watch if we can already see the directory doesn't exist15:43
ckingcyphermox, yes, that is very useful to have a fix like that, I appreciate your help on fixing it15:44
cyphermoxp15:47
cyphermox*np\15:47
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Sweetsharkricotz: pong (in Call)15:49
ricotzSweetshark, see pm15:49
Sweetsharkricotz: I pushed that into to ppa right away for trusty _only_ just to get some early warning if there should be an serious issue. But yeah, for the other releases it should properly be named.15:51
seb128bschaefer, hey, I noticed that we have quite some reports about users having issues where the dash/hud open when using keybindings, is that something you guys are look at before release? (not sure what's your priority bug list atm)15:52
Sweetsharkricotz: The build in my staging PPA was already through and I didnt want to redo it just for the version change on trusty ...15:52
ricotzSweetshark, ok, the other problem i mentioned in the pm15:53
bschaeferseb128, im assuming using keybindings such as Super+w?15:53
seb128bschaefer, yes15:53
bschaeferseb128, thats always been an issue, and its a somewhat difficult one to solve15:54
bschaefersince, we don't do correct tab detection with the dash15:54
bschaefer(there was some reason we could ... now i cant remember :)15:54
seb128bschaefer, several of those reports state that 13.10 had those problems resolved and that they came back, but maybe it's a timing issue and they just happened to be lucky in 13.10?15:54
bschaeferpossibly, i can try to take a look into it though15:55
seb128bschaefer, well, you probably have a better overview of the top issues than me15:55
seb128bschaefer, what are you guys working on in priority atm?15:55
seb128I don't want to "hijack" more important work with my bugs15:56
bschaeferseb128, lockscreen, lim, and a list of bugs that bregma has prepared15:56
* bschaefer sends you a link15:56
seb128bschaefer, thanks15:56
bschaefernp!15:57
seb128bschaefer, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1287798 from popey for example15:57
ubot2Launchpad bug 1287798 in unity (Ubuntu) "HUD erroneously pops up when not wanted" [Undecided,New]15:57
bschaeferhmm yeah i can reproduce that15:58
seb128bschaefer, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1287322 also16:02
ubot2Launchpad bug 1287322 in unity (Ubuntu) "ctrl+super keybindings broken in trusty" [Undecided,New]16:02
bschaeferhmm i cant reproduce that, Trevinho ChrisTownsend ^16:03
seb128bschaefer, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1292623 also where Saviq mentioned that it regressed16:07
ubot2Launchpad bug 1292623 in unity (Ubuntu) "Alt-F pops up the HUD" [High,Confirmed]16:07
seb128bschaefer, well anyway, you get the idea ... thanks for looking at those ;-)16:07
bschaeferseb128, np! Thanks for letting me know about those issues :)16:08
seb128bregma, can we get https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1283775 added to your list? it's one of those small details which is user visible16:09
ubot2Launchpad bug 1283775 in unity (Ubuntu) "Launcher: icon pips are not always updated properly" [High,Confirmed]16:09
bregmaseb128, by all means16:09
seb128bregma, thanks16:10
Trevinhobschaefer: yeah the mostly work here...16:19
Trevinhoseb128: I've just finished the branch for it16:19
bschaeferTrevinho, mostly as in, you can reproduce it sometimes haha?16:19
Trevinhoseb128: aah, no sorry that's another bug :)16:20
seb128Trevinho, the branch for what?16:20
seb128k ;-)16:20
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TrevinhoI meant the pips :)16:24
Trevinhobut I've only for scaling them for wno16:24
Trevinhonow*16:24
seb128Trevinho, k, you keep rocking ;-)16:24
Trevinho:)16:26
seb128ChrisTownsend, thanks for fixing those compiz placements/multimonitors issues ;-)16:27
seb128(that was another one we had devs complaining about, it's nice to see fixes for that before the LTS)16:28
tremseb128: \o/16:34
seb128trem, hey16:38
LaneyMirv: are you applying upstream Qt cherry-picks to Debian generally?17:02
Laney(anyways, I pushed a new qtdeclarative patch that it'd be good to get in before too long)17:14
Laney(if you're not planning an upload already then I can do it myself)17:14
seb128Laney, he's probably eod at this time, tz different and early morning start17:15
Laneyno worries, I can deal with asynchronous IRCing17:15
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seb128;-)17:18
ochosihey everyone!17:19
ochosii just read about a new option in ccsm where you can choose the lockscreen. and that also has a "lightdm" option. what does that do exactly?17:20
ochosi(for reference: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--R-JOG7VPa8/UzQgJWuO3nI/AAAAAAAAR-c/yz2-x6NTxfU/s1600/ccsm-lockscreen-settings.png)17:20
ochosialso, what does the "none" option do? leave the session unprotected or disable locking?17:21
seb128Trevinho, andyrock: ^17:21
ochosithanks seb128 :) wasn't sure who to ping17:21
Trevinhoochosi: none: yes17:22
seb128ochosi, yw, I think "lightdm" means "gnomr-screensaver"17:22
seb128but I've been confused by those names myself before, so I prefer to let the unity team reply17:22
ochosiwell it actually seems to do VT switching with that option17:22
ochosiat least that's what the commenters on webupd8 suggested17:22
Trevinhoochosi: lightdm locks the session using lightdm (unity-greeter) as the user prompt17:22
ochosiTrevinho: and what protects the session on VT7?17:22
Trevinhoochosi: a "static" lockscreen"17:23
ochosiah ok17:23
Trevinhoochosi: so, just the wallpaper with theh cyrcle of friends17:23
ochosiand that one is drawn by unity lockscreen, right?17:23
Trevinhoochosi: yes17:23
ochosiyou can't unlock from the static lockscreen though, right?17:23
Trevinhoochosi: no, you need to go back to tty117:23
Trevinhoas if you're there, it means you tried to go there17:23
ochosihm, you could (if you wanted) also borrow a part of light-locker for that, if you wanted17:24
ochosiwe set a 10sec timeout after which the user gets autoforwarded to lightdm17:24
Trevinhoochosi: oh, yeah I read that17:24
ochosiwhile i generally agree that "users should know" there's little harm in doing that17:25
ochosiit could still happen by accident17:25
Trevinhoochosi: it might be a possibilty... but it wasn't the priority yet... as lockscreen needs still to be tuned a lot :)17:25
ochosiok sure, was just mentioning it as an option :)17:25
ochosiwe discussed it a lot and that was kind of the endpoint of our discussions (the timed auto-forwarding)17:25
Trevinhoochosi: yeah, but you have to: 1) set the option not to lock with unity; 2) you should have pressed ctrl+alt+fx to go back to your session17:26
ochositrue that17:26
ochosidepends though, not all users set up their computers themselves17:26
ochosicould be that someone "ships" installs with that option set17:26
ochosianyhoo, i know, it's getting very theoretical ;)17:27
ochosithanks for the heads up!17:27
Trevinhoochosi: np ;)17:29
andyrockochosi, disable locking17:44
andyrockactually we could make it using gnome-screensaver17:44
ochosiandyrock: but wouldn't that be misleading if you call it "none"?17:49
ochosiyou could simply call it gnome-screensaver17:49
ochosi(is that even still installed by default?)17:49
andyrocknope17:49
andyrockit will use gnome-screensaver17:50
andyrockjust if you have gnome-screensaver installed and enabled17:50
ochosiso i guess that means that in case you install light-locker and activate it, it'll use that17:54
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Laneynight!18:17
* Laney goes to mope around instead of climbing18:17
* Laney falls into a life of crime18:17
seb128Laney, night18:19
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Laneydesrt: http://d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/Trusty/view/AutoPkgTest/job/trusty-adt-glib2.0/106/ARCH=i386,label=adt/consoleFull - could this be the same issue we had before?20:09
Laneyhttps://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/commit/?id=c37cd19feee3a609fec8909f01df8755052c59ab that one20:09
desrtFirefox can't find the server at www.d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci.20:10
Laneyffs20:11
LaneyI've been trying really hard to not link to that20:11
Laneybut the 'awesome bar' always prefers it to the public jenkins20:11
Laneyhttps://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Trusty/view/AutoPkgTest/job/trusty-adt-glib2.0/106/ARCH=i386,label=adt/consoleFull try that one20:11
desrtsigh.  i hate the ever-changing log output20:13
desrtcan you give me something i can grep for?20:14
desrtGLib-GIO:ERROR:/build/buildd/glib2.0-2.40.0/./gio/tests/gdbus-threading.c:207:test_delivery_in_thread_func: assertion failed: (data.signal_count == 1)20:14
LaneyGLib-GIO:ERROR:/build/buildd/glib2.0-2.40.0/./gio/tests/gdbus-threading.c:207:test_delivery_in_thread_func: assertion failed: (data.signal_count == 1)20:14
desrtthis one?20:14
desrtright20:14
desrtthat test wasn't one of the failing ones before, i think20:14
desrtso this could be a completely new issue20:14
desrtwhich surprises me, since we so rarely have issues in the gdbus tests20:15
Laneypossibly not, wondering if the same g_test_bus_down() problem could just crop up wherever20:15
desrtcould be20:15
desrti haven't managed to get stef to look at the problem yet20:15
desrtand we all know that a sleep() is no guarantee of a fix20:15
Laneymaybe the sleep could be added to session_bus_down() instead20:16
desrtwhat makes you think that this is related?20:16
LaneyIt's a racy failure in the first test in a new executable after a test which calls g_dbus_test_down() as almost its last operation, that's all I got20:21
Laneyhttp://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-gnome/desktop/experimental/glib2.0/debian/patches/ smcv did add some patches though20:22
LaneyDo-not... and gdbus-*20:22
* desrt sobs20:23
* Laney retries20:38
LaneyThere we go :)20:48
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