[06:12] <pitti> Good morning
[08:50] <ritz> chrisccoulson, hi, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1197559 . any thoughts on adding this to precise, or do we wait for ff v29 ?
[08:50] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1197559 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Regression: Firefox forgot how to open apt urls" [Medium,Triaged]
[09:02] <seb128> good morning desktopers!
[09:02] <seb128> ritz, oh, nice, thanks for fixed that one!
[09:03] <Laney> hey
[09:04] <seb128> Laney, hey, how are you?
[09:04] <Laney> not bad, but I hurt my elbow at climbing last night
[09:04] <Laney> landed on my arm weirdly after a fall
[09:04] <seb128> :-(
[09:05] <Laney> i think it's sprained
[09:05] <Laney> ho hum
[09:05] <Laney> how are you?
[09:05] <seb128> is it hurt enough that you need to keep it rested for a dew days?
[09:05] <seb128> I'm good!
[09:05] <Laney> nah don't think so
[09:09] <ritz> seb128, yw :)
[09:09] <ritz> seb128,  bonjour
[09:17] <sabdfl> p
[09:17] <Laney> t!
[09:17] <Laney> p is so two years ago
[09:17] <seb128> ;-)
[09:18] <seb128> happyaron, hey, could you have a look to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/ibus/+bug/1284635 when you have some free slots? it seems to impact !Unity session (wrong layout being set, apparently by ibus and since the most recent upstream version)
[09:18] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1284635 in ibus (Ubuntu Trusty) "Keyboard layout changes after login" [High,Confirmed]
[09:34] <mlankhorst> morning
[09:37] <Laney> guten tag mlankhorst
[09:38] <mlankhorst> g'day mate
[09:39] <Laney> wie gehts?
[09:39] <mlankhorst> terrible :P
[09:39] <mlankhorst> waking up with rcu in the morning
[09:39] <mlankhorst> you?
[09:41] <Laney> poor rcu (whatever it is)
[09:42] <Laney> also not ideal as I hurt my elbow at climbing
[09:42] <Laney> otherwise GOOD!
[09:42] <mlankhorst> read-copy-update, a kernel mechanism
[10:44] <Trevinho> seb128: fyi here's the error I was talking about in dejadup: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7162038/
[10:58] <GunnarHj> seb128: ping?
[11:21] <ritz> seb128, wrt https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/880493 , will this do https://code.launchpad.net/~khadgaray/synaptic/precise-nb-fix . Do do I need to create a debdiff ?
[11:21] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 880493 in synaptic (Ubuntu Quantal) "Synaptic crashes in vfprintf() with Norwegian locale" [Medium,Confirmed]
[11:24] <Trevinho> seb128: so I got another of my freezes (evolution now)... and it seems that it happens on a sync call to org.gtk.vfs.Mount
[11:25] <Trevinho> seb128: bt http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7162169/
[11:29] <Laney> wee, I think I found a fix for that tz bug
[11:43] <Laney> yay
[11:57] <Trevinho> seb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1298330
[11:57] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1298330 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "GtkFileChooserDialog hangs in org.gtk.vfs.Mount QueryInfo" [Undecided,New]
[12:35] <ricotz> Sweetshark, hi, i was about to ask you NOT to copy your build to the ppa
[12:36] <ricotz> (while is has the same version as the official build will have and this might ask for trouble if those are mixed)
[12:45] <Laney> Mirv: how do I track a Qt change after it's merged to staging?
[12:49] <Laney> Mirv: ah, nm, I see that it's internal
[12:51]  * Mirv nm:s
[13:10] <seb128> Trevinho, tell mterry, he's maintaining deja-dup upstream/in ubuntu
[13:10] <seb128> ritz, debdiff is better if you can
[13:11] <Trevinho> seb128: yeah I was waiting for him to join :)
[13:11] <Trevinho> mterry: so... this is what dejadup says to me after some time that tries to backup my data to u1: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7162038/
[13:11] <seb128> Trevinho, not sure about the gvfs hang :/
[13:11] <Trevinho> seb128: it surely depends on some bookmarks I have...
[13:12] <mterry> Trevinho, huh.   Not sure why that would happen
[13:13] <Trevinho> seb128: although I've just 3 ssh connections where one is ubuntu, one is mostly unavailable (local server, on different ip mask, but that shouldn't cause any hang)... so I've no idea what could delay
[13:13] <Trevinho> next time I get it I should identify the process that the gtk item calls via dbus...
[13:13] <Trevinho> btw I don't see the reason why that call should be sync
[13:13] <ritz> seb128,  ok, thanks :)
[13:14] <Trevinho> mterry: yeah pretty weird... can I do something for helping debug?
[13:14] <mterry> Trevinho, I guess file a deja-dup bug.  It will tell you how to get logs
[13:18] <Trevinho> mterry: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/deja-dup/+bug/1298379 but apport didn't make me attach anything extra
[13:18] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1298379 in deja-dup (Ubuntu) "Deja-dup always fails to backup to u1 on OSError: No such file or directory: '/tmp/duplicity-7ynjzg-tempdir/tmpXnMr4f'" [Undecided,New]
[13:19] <mterry> Trevinho, ah.  The instructions are on the upstream bug form.  Start filing a bug against the deja-dup project just to see what it asks of you.  Then you can add that to your ubuntu bug
[13:19] <jdstrand> if I wanted to file a bug on keyboard navigation in the Dash on the desktop, which package would I file it against?
[13:19] <ritz> Sweetshark, bad news,  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1200277 , looking for deployment by april 23rd
[13:19] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1200277 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[LibreOffice] - libreoffice-writer.desktop when drag/drop to desktop, 100% broken. " [Medium,Fix committed]
[13:20] <ritz> on precise
[13:20] <Trevinho> mterry: ah, btw I've noticed that.... the folders it seems to complain is actually at /home/marco/.cache/deja-dup/8cf8eb6c99f325880c12faa64552cfcd/duplicity-A6aW_9-tempdir
[13:20] <Trevinho> not in /tmp/
[13:20] <jdstrand> I guess unity
[13:20] <seb128> jdstrand, unity
[13:20] <jdstrand> hehe
[13:20] <seb128> ;-)
[13:20] <jdstrand> seb128: thanks :)
[13:20] <seb128> yw!
[13:21] <mterry> Trevinho, huh.  looks like someone somewhere used the wrong prefix.  That's useful intel, can you please add it to the bug?  :)
[13:21] <Trevinho> yes
[13:22] <GunnarHj> Hi seb128!
[13:23] <rickspencer3> wow, haven't dist-upgraded for a while, I guess ... 450megs to download!
[13:26] <seb128> GunnarHj, hey
[13:27] <GunnarHj> seb128: You can't have two uploads of the same package in the trusty queue, right?
[13:28] <seb128> you can
[13:28] <seb128> queues don't check for existing versions or duplicates
[13:28] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ok... I uploaded l-s, and now there has arised a reason to make another change. So that won't be a problem?
[13:29] <seb128> GunnarHj, well, you can bump the version again, or reupload the same version and ask for the previous upload to be rejected, easier to just bump the version again, both can be accepted
[13:30] <GunnarHj> seb128: The new thing is unrelated. Can I just make another upload with a new version as usual?
[13:31] <seb128> yes
[13:31] <seb128> just work as if we were not frozen
[13:31] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ok, thanks!
[13:31] <seb128> yw
[13:47] <jibel> seb128, do you have a master bug or the link to errors.u.c for bug 1298288 ?
[13:47] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1298288 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "gtk-update-icon-cache-3.0 crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1298288
[13:48] <seb128> jibel,
[13:48] <seb128> https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/51867c7babfc41c749a4ed34ba54148f534a28c1
[13:48] <seb128> there are few different entries and reports
[13:50] <jibel> thanks
[13:50] <seb128> but I wonder if that could be the same issue than the gdk-pixbuf one we also have during those upgrades (Laney uploaded a precise SRU for that one)
[13:50] <seb128> the bt seems different though, which suggest it's not
[13:51] <jibel> seb128, I saw it too, but it was unreportable (?) because it happened on previous version of the binary
[13:54] <mterry> larsu, so that color issue in deja-dup wasn't an upstream one?
[13:55] <larsu> mterry: no. It's overlay-scrollbars
[13:55] <larsu> (don't ask)
[13:56] <seb128> (you can feel the love for those)
[13:56] <mterry> :)
[14:43] <Laney> seb128: back, still on the call?
[14:46] <Laney> seems not
[14:46] <Laney> wait that's at 15:00!
[14:50] <seb128> Laney, it's in 10 min
[14:50] <Laney> you know, one day I'll remember this meeting 100% correctly
[14:51] <Laney> and not like forget to have lunch until the time it's supposed to start or join an empty hangout
[14:52] <seb128> lol
[14:53] <seb128> Laney, btw you should try again to make hangout use your webcam/mic
[14:53] <seb128> that would be nicer than using your phone, your audio is usually low/barely understandable
[14:53] <seb128> it's good that had added the audio over-level option
[14:59] <Sweetshark> ritz: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/precise/3.5.7/ubuntu6/ <- is ready for SRUing, still handling the details on if we push that via -security or -updates. but in general with should have that ready bein April 23rd on precise.
[14:59] <ritz> Sweetshark, sweet, thank you :)
[14:59] <Sweetshark> ritz: ... or, if not, it at least wasnt blocking on me ;)
[14:59] <Sweetshark> seb128: ^^
[14:59] <Laney> seb128: hmm ok i'll try it this time
[15:00] <Laney> I think I did get some hangout plugin updates since then
[15:00] <ritz> hehe
[15:00] <seb128> Sweetshark, right, let's wait for security to reply first, we can nudge them if needed
[15:00] <seb128> Laney, thanks, or try after the meeting for next time if you think that's safer
[15:01] <Laney> might as well give it a go now
[15:01] <seb128> Laney, tedg, charles, larsu, mpt: settings meeting?
[15:02] <charles> seb128, sure
[15:03] <Laney> "Your microphone is not working or is hardware-muted!"
[15:03] <seb128> Laney, did you try to go in system settings?
[15:03] <Laney> yeah I can record audio from it
[15:03] <seb128> to see if mic is muted/the right mute is selected?
[15:05] <seb128> Laney, coming back from your phone?
[15:22] <cyphermox> cking: so yesterday I couldn't reproduce your bug, but I did write a patch that might help anyway
[15:24] <cking> cyphermox, ok, I never double checked to see if I can still see this ussue
[15:24] <cking> *issue
[15:25] <cking> I did a clean install on tuesday, so my machine is relatively "untainted"
[15:29] <cking> cyphermox, with 0.9.8.8-0ubuntu5 I don't see the ofono inotify watch being added now
[15:37] <ricotz> Sweetshark, ping
[15:42] <cyphermox> cking: weird... -0ubuntu5 was uploaded much before tuesday :)
[15:43] <cyphermox> cking: I'll upload with my patch anyway; it's useless to even try to add the inotify watch if we can already see the directory doesn't exist
[15:44] <cking> cyphermox, yes, that is very useful to have a fix like that, I appreciate your help on fixing it
[15:47] <cyphermox> p
[15:47] <cyphermox> *np\
[15:48]  * cyphermox sighs
[15:49] <Sweetshark> ricotz: pong (in Call)
[15:49] <ricotz> Sweetshark, see pm
[15:51] <Sweetshark> ricotz: I pushed that into to ppa right away for trusty _only_ just to get some early warning if there should be an serious issue. But yeah, for the other releases it should properly be named.
[15:52] <seb128> bschaefer, hey, I noticed that we have quite some reports about users having issues where the dash/hud open when using keybindings, is that something you guys are look at before release? (not sure what's your priority bug list atm)
[15:52] <Sweetshark> ricotz: The build in my staging PPA was already through and I didnt want to redo it just for the version change on trusty ...
[15:53] <ricotz> Sweetshark, ok, the other problem i mentioned in the pm
[15:53] <bschaefer> seb128, im assuming using keybindings such as Super+w?
[15:53] <seb128> bschaefer, yes
[15:54] <bschaefer> seb128, thats always been an issue, and its a somewhat difficult one to solve
[15:54] <bschaefer> since, we don't do correct tab detection with the dash
[15:54] <bschaefer> (there was some reason we could ... now i cant remember :)
[15:54] <seb128> bschaefer, several of those reports state that 13.10 had those problems resolved and that they came back, but maybe it's a timing issue and they just happened to be lucky in 13.10?
[15:55] <bschaefer> possibly, i can try to take a look into it though
[15:55] <seb128> bschaefer, well, you probably have a better overview of the top issues than me
[15:55] <seb128> bschaefer, what are you guys working on in priority atm?
[15:56] <seb128> I don't want to "hijack" more important work with my bugs
[15:56] <bschaefer> seb128, lockscreen, lim, and a list of bugs that bregma has prepared
[15:56]  * bschaefer sends you a link
[15:56] <seb128> bschaefer, thanks
[15:57] <bschaefer> np!
[15:57] <seb128> bschaefer, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1287798 from popey for example
[15:57] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1287798 in unity (Ubuntu) "HUD erroneously pops up when not wanted" [Undecided,New]
[15:58] <bschaefer> hmm yeah i can reproduce that
[16:02] <seb128> bschaefer, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1287322 also
[16:02] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1287322 in unity (Ubuntu) "ctrl+super keybindings broken in trusty" [Undecided,New]
[16:03] <bschaefer> hmm i cant reproduce that, Trevinho ChrisTownsend ^
[16:07] <seb128> bschaefer, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1292623 also where Saviq mentioned that it regressed
[16:07] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1292623 in unity (Ubuntu) "Alt-F pops up the HUD" [High,Confirmed]
[16:07] <seb128> bschaefer, well anyway, you get the idea ... thanks for looking at those ;-)
[16:08] <bschaefer> seb128, np! Thanks for letting me know about those issues :)
[16:09] <seb128> bregma, can we get https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1283775 added to your list? it's one of those small details which is user visible
[16:09] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1283775 in unity (Ubuntu) "Launcher: icon pips are not always updated properly" [High,Confirmed]
[16:09] <bregma> seb128, by all means
[16:10] <seb128> bregma, thanks
[16:19] <Trevinho> bschaefer: yeah the mostly work here...
[16:19] <Trevinho> seb128: I've just finished the branch for it
[16:19] <bschaefer> Trevinho, mostly as in, you can reproduce it sometimes haha?
[16:20] <Trevinho> seb128: aah, no sorry that's another bug :)
[16:20] <seb128> Trevinho, the branch for what?
[16:20] <seb128> k ;-)
[16:24] <Trevinho> I meant the pips :)
[16:24] <Trevinho> but I've only for scaling them for wno
[16:24] <Trevinho> now*
[16:24] <seb128> Trevinho, k, you keep rocking ;-)
[16:26] <Trevinho> :)
[16:27] <seb128> ChrisTownsend, thanks for fixing those compiz placements/multimonitors issues ;-)
[16:28] <seb128> (that was another one we had devs complaining about, it's nice to see fixes for that before the LTS)
[16:34] <trem> seb128: \o/
[16:38] <seb128> trem, hey
[17:02] <Laney> Mirv: are you applying upstream Qt cherry-picks to Debian generally?
[17:14] <Laney> (anyways, I pushed a new qtdeclarative patch that it'd be good to get in before too long)
[17:14] <Laney> (if you're not planning an upload already then I can do it myself)
[17:15] <seb128> Laney, he's probably eod at this time, tz different and early morning start
[17:15] <Laney> no worries, I can deal with asynchronous IRCing
[17:18] <seb128> ;-)
[17:19] <ochosi> hey everyone!
[17:20] <ochosi> i just read about a new option in ccsm where you can choose the lockscreen. and that also has a "lightdm" option. what does that do exactly?
[17:20] <ochosi> (for reference: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--R-JOG7VPa8/UzQgJWuO3nI/AAAAAAAAR-c/yz2-x6NTxfU/s1600/ccsm-lockscreen-settings.png)
[17:21] <ochosi> also, what does the "none" option do? leave the session unprotected or disable locking?
[17:21] <seb128> Trevinho, andyrock: ^
[17:21] <ochosi> thanks seb128 :) wasn't sure who to ping
[17:22] <Trevinho> ochosi: none: yes
[17:22] <seb128> ochosi, yw, I think "lightdm" means "gnomr-screensaver"
[17:22] <seb128> but I've been confused by those names myself before, so I prefer to let the unity team reply
[17:22] <ochosi> well it actually seems to do VT switching with that option
[17:22] <ochosi> at least that's what the commenters on webupd8 suggested
[17:22] <Trevinho> ochosi: lightdm locks the session using lightdm (unity-greeter) as the user prompt
[17:22] <ochosi> Trevinho: and what protects the session on VT7?
[17:23] <Trevinho> ochosi: a "static" lockscreen"
[17:23] <ochosi> ah ok
[17:23] <Trevinho> ochosi: so, just the wallpaper with theh cyrcle of friends
[17:23] <ochosi> and that one is drawn by unity lockscreen, right?
[17:23] <Trevinho> ochosi: yes
[17:23] <ochosi> you can't unlock from the static lockscreen though, right?
[17:23] <Trevinho> ochosi: no, you need to go back to tty1
[17:23] <Trevinho> as if you're there, it means you tried to go there
[17:24] <ochosi> hm, you could (if you wanted) also borrow a part of light-locker for that, if you wanted
[17:24] <ochosi> we set a 10sec timeout after which the user gets autoforwarded to lightdm
[17:24] <Trevinho> ochosi: oh, yeah I read that
[17:25] <ochosi> while i generally agree that "users should know" there's little harm in doing that
[17:25] <ochosi> it could still happen by accident
[17:25] <Trevinho> ochosi: it might be a possibilty... but it wasn't the priority yet... as lockscreen needs still to be tuned a lot :)
[17:25] <ochosi> ok sure, was just mentioning it as an option :)
[17:25] <ochosi> we discussed it a lot and that was kind of the endpoint of our discussions (the timed auto-forwarding)
[17:26] <Trevinho> ochosi: yeah, but you have to: 1) set the option not to lock with unity; 2) you should have pressed ctrl+alt+fx to go back to your session
[17:26] <ochosi> true that
[17:26] <ochosi> depends though, not all users set up their computers themselves
[17:26] <ochosi> could be that someone "ships" installs with that option set
[17:27] <ochosi> anyhoo, i know, it's getting very theoretical ;)
[17:27] <ochosi> thanks for the heads up!
[17:29] <Trevinho> ochosi: np ;)
[17:44] <andyrock> ochosi, disable locking
[17:44] <andyrock> actually we could make it using gnome-screensaver
[17:49] <ochosi> andyrock: but wouldn't that be misleading if you call it "none"?
[17:49] <ochosi> you could simply call it gnome-screensaver
[17:49] <ochosi> (is that even still installed by default?)
[17:49] <andyrock> nope
[17:50] <andyrock> it will use gnome-screensaver
[17:50] <andyrock> just if you have gnome-screensaver installed and enabled
[17:54] <ochosi> so i guess that means that in case you install light-locker and activate it, it'll use that
[18:17] <Laney> night!
[18:17]  * Laney goes to mope around instead of climbing
[18:17]  * Laney falls into a life of crime
[18:19] <seb128> Laney, night
[20:09] <Laney> desrt: http://d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/Trusty/view/AutoPkgTest/job/trusty-adt-glib2.0/106/ARCH=i386,label=adt/consoleFull - could this be the same issue we had before?
[20:09] <Laney> https://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/commit/?id=c37cd19feee3a609fec8909f01df8755052c59ab that one
[20:10] <desrt> Firefox can't find the server at www.d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci.
[20:11] <Laney> ffs
[20:11] <Laney> I've been trying really hard to not link to that
[20:11] <Laney> but the 'awesome bar' always prefers it to the public jenkins
[20:11] <Laney> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Trusty/view/AutoPkgTest/job/trusty-adt-glib2.0/106/ARCH=i386,label=adt/consoleFull try that one
[20:13] <desrt> sigh.  i hate the ever-changing log output
[20:14] <desrt> can you give me something i can grep for?
[20:14] <desrt> GLib-GIO:ERROR:/build/buildd/glib2.0-2.40.0/./gio/tests/gdbus-threading.c:207:test_delivery_in_thread_func: assertion failed: (data.signal_count == 1)
[20:14] <Laney> GLib-GIO:ERROR:/build/buildd/glib2.0-2.40.0/./gio/tests/gdbus-threading.c:207:test_delivery_in_thread_func: assertion failed: (data.signal_count == 1)
[20:14] <desrt> this one?
[20:14] <desrt> right
[20:14] <desrt> that test wasn't one of the failing ones before, i think
[20:14] <desrt> so this could be a completely new issue
[20:15] <desrt> which surprises me, since we so rarely have issues in the gdbus tests
[20:15] <Laney> possibly not, wondering if the same g_test_bus_down() problem could just crop up wherever
[20:15] <desrt> could be
[20:15] <desrt> i haven't managed to get stef to look at the problem yet
[20:15] <desrt> and we all know that a sleep() is no guarantee of a fix
[20:16] <Laney> maybe the sleep could be added to session_bus_down() instead
[20:16] <desrt> what makes you think that this is related?
[20:21] <Laney> It's a racy failure in the first test in a new executable after a test which calls g_dbus_test_down() as almost its last operation, that's all I got
[20:22] <Laney> http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-gnome/desktop/experimental/glib2.0/debian/patches/ smcv did add some patches though
[20:22] <Laney> Do-not... and gdbus-*
[20:23]  * desrt sobs
[20:38]  * Laney retries
[20:48] <Laney> There we go :)