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| * slangasek waves | 14:59 | |
| * stgraber waves | 14:59 | |
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| jodh | o/ | 15:00 |
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| slangasek | #startmeeting | 15:01 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Thu Mar 27 15:01:35 2014 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:01 |
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| slangasek | [TOPIC] lightning round | 15:02 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: lightning round | ||
| slangasek | $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh bdmurray slangasek cjwatson xnox caribou infinity) | 15:02 |
| slangasek | doko slangasek infinity cjwatson bdmurray caribou barry jodh xnox stgraber | 15:02 |
| slangasek | doko_: hi | 15:03 |
| doko_ | - another round of GCC updates | 15:03 |
| doko_ | - python 3.4 update, python 3.3 removal | 15:03 |
| doko_ | - cleaning up a bit in -proposed, nbs | 15:03 |
| doko_ | - scan for compiler ICEs in the 4.9 test rebuild, file upstream issues | 15:03 |
| doko_ | - some random updates and ftbfs fixes | 15:03 |
| doko_ | (done) there was more, can't remember all ... | 15:03 |
| barry | \o/ for 3.3 removal | 15:04 |
| doko_ | a few days remaining to remove ruby1.9.1 and update to ruby2.0 ;-P | 15:04 |
| slangasek | oh? | 15:05 |
| slangasek | * catching up on the world after being heads-down on customer work for two weeks | 15:05 |
| slangasek | * moving forward on the Java role; expected to begin interviewing next week | 15:05 |
| slangasek | * participating in good discussions about the current landing process and bottlenecks around image promotion (cf. Qt5.2) | 15:05 |
| slangasek | * discussions around some late FFes coming in | 15:05 |
| slangasek | * performance review discussions using the new and improved process | 15:05 |
| slangasek | (done) | 15:05 |
| slangasek | doko_: are we switching to ruby2.0 for trusty, or is it your turn to troll? :) | 15:05 |
| slangasek | infinity's not here, so cjwatson: | 15:06 |
| cjwatson | Finished landing upstart-app-launch performance improvements via libclick. | 15:06 |
| cjwatson | Clawed away some of the backlog of uninstallables on arm64/ppc64el. | 15:06 |
| cjwatson | grub-installer fixes for ppc64el. | 15:06 |
| doko_ | well, I assume security would like to only support one version, but nobody is pushing for it, and the puppet people won't look at it as usual :-/ | 15:06 |
| cjwatson | Continuing work on making ubuntu-sdk-libs-dev:armhf installable for "click chroot". Landed: dee, libaccounts-glib. Current blockers: libfriends, qml-friends. | 15:06 |
| cjwatson | ubiquity fixes for final beta (reviewed bug 1297312, worked around bug 1296697). | 15:06 |
| ubottu | bug 1297312 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "ubiquity-dm fails with: FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-application-service'" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1297312 | 15:06 |
| cjwatson | Started trying to get my juju cross-build environment back up on trusty. | 15:06 |
| ubottu | bug 1296697 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "Trusty Desktop installer crashed with "Encrypted Home" set" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1296697 | 15:06 |
| cjwatson | .. | 15:06 |
| cjwatson | ruby updates are a long way behind - I spent some time looking at various bits, it's a mess | 15:07 |
| cjwatson | like ruby-gnome2, we can fix it, realistically it'll take a new upstream version which'll need an FFe | 15:07 |
| cjwatson | and it's kind of all like that | 15:07 |
| cjwatson | but maybe I just don't know it well enough | 15:08 |
| slangasek | doko_: who are "the puppet people"? | 15:08 |
| * barry thinks that sounds like a great band name or horror movie title | 15:09 | |
| slangasek | doko_: in the future, can we please make such questions a UDS session, so that we discuss with the server team at the beginning of the cycle and get a committment from them to include this work on their roadmap for the cycle? | 15:09 |
| barry | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051381/ | 15:09 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: speaking of puppets, I had bug #1292628 escalated to me in person; this seems to be a regression in the interaction between grub-install, grub-installer, and kickseed following the recent grub-installer rewrite. Do you think this should be on the radar for 14.04? | 15:10 |
| ubottu | bug 1292628 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "'grub-install --force "(hd0)"' fails on trusty during installation" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1292628 | 15:10 |
| doko_ | slangasek, how? the plans for 2.0 did start in debian only in January ... | 15:11 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: I'll have a look | 15:11 |
| slangasek | doko_: hmmm. put the UDS session on the agenda, and make the server team do their homework on ruby versions before the meeting? :) | 15:11 |
| doko_ | ok | 15:12 |
| cjwatson | surprising that the grub-mkdevicemap code would have broken; so hopefully it's not too hard | 15:12 |
| slangasek | the planning for ruby2.0 may have started in January, but I guess if someone would have asked the Debian ruby team in November they would've had a good guess | 15:12 |
| * bdmurray is ready but waiting | 15:12 | |
| cjwatson | I vaguely recall the Debian ruby maintainer mentioning 2.0 at debconf in July/August or so | 15:12 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: sorry, it's not grub-mkdevicemap that's the problem per se, the problem is that kickseed is feeding us '(hd0)' as an override and grub-install never has a device map on disk so seems to not do anything sensible | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | though it was in passing and I don't think he mentioned a timescale | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: right, but the grub-mkdevicemap calling code in grub-installer is meant to deal with that just as it did in prior releases | 15:13 |
| slangasek | hmm | 15:13 |
| slangasek | ok | 15:13 |
| slangasek | stgraber: ? | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | I'm not disbelieving the bug or anything, just saying it's hopefully shallow | 15:13 |
| doko_ | yes, met him at Connect a few weeks ago. I think we can't remove it, but likely demote it if puppet works with 2.0 | 15:14 |
| stgraber | slangasek: ? | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | I think I was next so I'll start now | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | confirm prodstack data is appearing on graphite | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | reported daisy bug 1295400 regarding retracer sandboxes | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | submitted merge proposal to daisy to remove sandbox dir data after each retrace (bug 1295400) | 15:15 |
| ubottu | bug 1295400 in Daisy "retracer requires a lot of storage for instance sandboxes" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1295400 | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | merged thedac's changes to the daisy-retracer charm | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | updated daisy's submit.py to reject crashes from armel systems as we have no retracer for them | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | verified that bug 1267112 is in fact fixed since we have a bucket for the ubiquity / autopilot-gtk bug | 15:15 |
| ubottu | bug 1267112 in Daisy "errors indicates a retraced crash but isn't showing a stack trace" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1267112 | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | investigation into hplip-data crashes missing package and sourcepackage information | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | tested daisy (haproxy config) changes to reduce occurrence of 502 errors in whoopsie | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | worked with thedac regarding missing OOPS reports from prodstack version of errors | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | updated my apport retrace-package-versions merge proposal | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | sent error tracker armhf announcement | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | investigation into armhf crashes on errors (webbrowser-app failed to retrace, likely due to outdated debug symbol package for liblttng-ust0) | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | SRU queue work with arges | 15:16 |
| bdmurray | uploaded a fix for bug 1294392 | 15:16 |
| ubottu | bug 1294392 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "PAE check prevents Precise to Trusty upgrades on non-Intel ports" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1294392 | 15:16 |
| bdmurray | ␗ done | 15:16 |
| bdmurray | research into update-manager test suite failures (bug 1295392) | 15:16 |
| ubottu | bug 1295392 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "test suite failures" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1295392 | 15:16 |
| slangasek | stgraber: hah, yes, somehow I thought you were next - sorry :) | 15:16 |
| slangasek | caribou: anything you'd like to share today? | 15:16 |
| caribou | I'm next, it'll be quick | 15:17 |
| caribou | * Completed uvtool documentation in the server guide | 15:17 |
| caribou | *btmp logging re-enabling (Debian bug #742775) | 15:17 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 742775 in openssh-server "openssh-server: Please re-enable btmp logging" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/742775 | 15:17 |
| caribou | * Misc bug fixing | 15:17 |
| caribou | Done | 15:17 |
| barry | short week due to holiday | 15:17 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: we should have noisemakers and party hats for the armhf retracers | 15:17 |
| barry | phone: py3 autopilot: gallery-app, address-book-app. trying to further debug phablet-test-run issues. | 15:18 |
| barry | ubuntu/debian: LP: #1295392. LP: #1296325. pystache FTBFS. pip 1.5.3-1 (blocked on python-distutil in stuck in NEW). ensurepip/pyvenv for debian. other general debian work | 15:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1295392 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "test suite failures" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1295392 | 15:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1296325 in oneconf (Ubuntu) "oneconf-query needs generic /usr/bin/python3 shebang" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1296325 | 15:18 |
| barry | other: debugging python import problems for security team (http://tinyurl.com/l7ps5br). code reviews for other internal projects. | 15:18 |
| barry | done | 15:18 |
| jodh | * foundations-1305-upstart-work-items | 15:18 |
| jodh | - cgroup support: Spent a lot of time debugging the async spawn issue | 15:18 |
| jodh | with help from cjwatson. As a result of that, we're now planning not | 15:18 |
| jodh | to pursue the async spawning feature due to the fact that to | 15:18 |
| jodh | implement this fully would require an extensive refactoring of the | 15:18 |
| jodh | Upstart core. As such, I'm now refocusing on the cgroup branch with | 15:18 |
| jodh | the intention of either having Upstart manage its own cgroups, or | 15:18 |
| jodh | working with hallyn to refactor cgmanager to allow Upstart to | 15:18 |
| jodh | leverage that work in some form. | 15:18 |
| jodh | * upstart | 15:18 |
| jodh | - Wrote draft release notes for Upstart | 15:18 |
| jodh | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/TechnicalOverviewUpstart | 15:18 |
| jodh | - Reworked MP for logrotate improvements: | 15:19 |
| cjwatson | caribou: fwiw I don't think the claim in that btmp bug is totally true; Debian stable at least still has -rw-rw---- 1 root utmp 0 Mar 1 08:02 /var/log/btmp | 15:19 |
| jodh | https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/ubuntu/trusty/upstart/periodic-logrotate-using-events/+merge/212569 | 15:19 |
| jodh | - | 15:19 |
| jodh | Ⱆ | 15:19 |
| cjwatson | caribou: this isn't simple, need to track down exactly what changed and when | 15:19 |
| cjwatson | otherwise I'll cause regressions | 15:19 |
| caribou | cjwatson: ok, will check that out | 15:19 |
| stgraber | no xnox so I guess that's my turn then | 15:19 |
| stgraber | LXC: | 15:20 |
| stgraber | - Finally tracked down our last 1.0.2 blocker, will release 1.0.2 today with cgmanager support enabled in Ubuntu (that may be our last LXC upload for the cycle)! | 15:20 |
| stgraber | - Some more CI infrastructure work (almost everything runs in Jenkins now) | 15:20 |
| stgraber | - Code reviews | 15:20 |
| stgraber | - A couple of bugfixes for lxc-ls performance when > 2k containers and userns config fixes | 15:20 |
| stgraber | - Fire fighting the latest apparmor breakage (they broke the parser causing quite a few bug reports for LXC upstream and in Ubuntu...) | 15:20 |
| stgraber | logind: | 15:20 |
| stgraber | - Unblocked as the cgmanager MIR was finally approved! | 15:20 |
| stgraber | - Filed the FFe to get cgmanager support landed: bug 1297363 | 15:20 |
| ubottu | bug 1297363 in systemd (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Add cgmanager support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1297363 | 15:20 |
| stgraber | network: | 15:20 |
| stgraber | - Uploaded a new ifupdown fixing quite a few bugs reported by CTS. | 15:20 |
| stgraber | - Uploaded a new vlan fixing another bug reported by CTS. | 15:20 |
| stgraber | - Did some more triaging of our network packages. | 15:20 |
| stgraber | - Answered some of lamont's OpenVPN questions and looked into a few NM OpenVPN crashes. | 15:20 |
| cjwatson | caribou: ah, actually that's not a problem per the code ... would still like to know when/where btmp changed perms though | 15:20 |
| stgraber | system-image: | 15:20 |
| stgraber | - some discussions and some code to get new image notifications delivered by the new push service. | 15:20 |
| stgraber | other: | 15:20 |
| stgraber | - Helping lttng upstream update their packages to a stable version for 14.04. | 15:20 |
| stgraber | - Couple of CI-Train landings. | 15:20 |
| stgraber | - Some FFe and queue review. | 15:20 |
| stgraber | - Helped setup Beta 2, tested Edubuntu, fixed a couple of issues, added ppc64el to tracker + cdimage scripts, ... | 15:20 |
| stgraber | (DONE) | 15:20 |
| cjwatson | caribou: ah, and openssh itself has started allowing group rw since the bug was originally filed, too, which was the other part of i | 15:21 |
| cjwatson | t | 15:21 |
| slangasek | any questions over status? | 15:22 |
| slangasek | btw, I should have mentioned, I'll be off Monday | 15:22 |
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| slangasek | [topic] AOB | 15:24 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB | ||
| slangasek | anything else today? | 15:24 |
| bdmurray | Could someone have a look at bug 1296386 and related bug 1296373? | 15:25 |
| slangasek | has someone started putting together beach recommendations for the May sprint? | 15:25 |
| ubottu | bug 1296386 in casper (Ubuntu) "[PATCH] Remove 23etc_modules script" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1296386 | 15:25 |
| ubottu | bug 1296373 in hw-detect (Ubuntu) "[PATCH] Fix sound on PowerPC" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1296373 | 15:25 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: any reason those shouldn't be pushed to ubuntu-sponsors? | 15:26 |
| slangasek | alternatively, you could check if infinity wants to have a look at this | 15:26 |
| cjwatson | caribou: ah, I found it, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=370050 | 15:26 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 370050 in logrotate "general: /var/log/btmp permission should be 660" [Wishlist,Fixed] | 15:26 |
| bdmurray | ubuntu-sponsors deals with branches and debdiffs not ordinary patches last I knew | 15:26 |
| cjwatson | ubuntu-sponsors largely shouldn't care about the format | 15:27 |
| cjwatson | those are native packages, the difference between a patch and a debdiff is negligible | 15:27 |
| bdmurray | I don't think it was the format so much as the volume | 15:27 |
| bdmurray | However, the system (of choosing who to subscribe) was setup quite some time ago | 15:28 |
| slangasek | I think it's fine to have separate frontline review of patch-tagged bugs to make sure they're actually ready for sponsorship, but in this case I think it would be ready for sponsorship | 15:31 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: ah, that makes sense | 15:33 |
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| bdmurray | okay, I'll ping infinity and depending on that subscribe sponsors | 15:35 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: sounds good | 15:35 |
| slangasek | aught else? | 15:35 |
| cjwatson | naught | 15:36 |
| cjwatson | except for wondering why the sudden Elizabethan English :) | 15:36 |
| slangasek | ;) | 15:36 |
| cjwatson | sorry, "save for" | 15:36 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: variety | 15:37 |
| slangasek | #endmeeting | 15:37 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Mar 27 15:37:17 2014 UTC. | 15:37 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-03-27-15.01.moin.txt | 15:37 |
| slangasek | thanks all | 15:37 |
| barry | thanks! | 15:37 |
| stgraber | thanks! | 15:37 |
| jodh | thanks! | 15:37 |
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