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pittiGood morning06:12
DanChapmangood morning07:54
elfyhi DanChapman07:55
DanChapmanguten morgen herr elfy07:56
elfykid at school today?07:58
jibelGood morning08:01
jibelmorning DanChapman elfy08:01
pittiça va jibel, bonjour !08:01
elfyhi jibel pitti08:01
DanChapmanelfy yep still another week of sanity to go, then easter holidays08:02
* DanChapman plans to hide somewhere08:02
jibelGuten Morgen pitti, mir geht es gut, danke!08:02
DanChapmanmorning jibel08:03
elfyDanChapman: school not out yesterday then - lucky ...08:04
DanChapmanelfy not that i'm aware of. :-/ i'd better check i have it right08:05
elfyyesterday DanChapman - surely you can just remember :p08:05
elfystrikes down here :p08:05
jibelDanChapman, elfy you're seeing bug 1284635 after installation, right?08:05
ubot5bug 1284635 in ibus (Ubuntu Trusty) "Keyboard layout changes after login" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128463508:05
jibelie. not during a live session08:05
elfyjibel: yep08:05
jibelk08:05
DanChapmanjibel yes only after reboot & login08:06
elfyand you would not believe how much time I invested in checking different flavours with it08:06
jibelelfy, I can believe how much time is invested in checking and confirming bug reports :)08:07
elfyjibel: I am wondering if it is 'tied' up with the installer not recognising that UK keyboard for UK timezone - which it used to do but is failing to do now08:07
elfyjibel: bug 123152008:08
ubot5bug 1231520 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Desktop image ignores installation language setting for locale" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123152008:08
elfyand yes I can believe how much time is invested in checking/confirming bugs08:09
elfywe're not enjoying this issue in xubuntu land08:09
jibelelfy, it is affecting all flavours, on ubuntu keyboard is always set to US during a live session, whatever langugage is selected in ubiquity-dm08:11
elfyI didn't see it in Kubuntu, didn't look at edu- or myth-08:11
elfyI do see it in xubuntu, lu- and studio08:12
elfyjibel: yes I know that US is set during live session, BUT previously once I had set TZ to UK, the keyboard then followed suit - currently it sits at US till changed08:13
elfyprobably not part of the issue - just trying to give as much info as possible :)08:13
davmor2jibel: I covered all the amd64 essentials at 11 I'll double up on the i386 if you want :)09:33
jibeldavmor2, I saw that, great work, thanks!09:41
jibeldavmor2, I confoirming bug 1284635 and bug 1298251. I cannot reproduce them on Ubuntu, the latter seems to happen only on kubuntu09:42
ubot5bug 1284635 in ibus (Ubuntu Trusty) "Keyboard layout changes after login" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128463509:43
ubot5bug 1298251 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity crash when starting LiveCD with a chosen language" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129825109:43
jibeldavmor2, and also reporting upgrade bugs/crashes09:43
jibeldavmor2, did you find any issue that should be added to the release notes?09:43
jibeljamespage, I'm updating https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/Beta2, server is participating to B2 right?10:56
jamespageyes10:56
davmor2jibel: I think the lack of wifi on the mac install is the only issue that I hit but that appears after you enable 3rd party stuff in the installer so I'm assuming it's just a driver.11:08
davmor2Morning all11:10
jibeldavmor2, about 1297851 you had to do a hard reset?11:10
jibelbug 129785111:10
ubot5bug 1297851 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "On a uefi system hitting enter to reboot the system after cd ejects fails" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129785111:10
davmor2jibel: only happened on the older image was fine on the newer one11:10
jibeldavmor2, can you update the bug report, and downgrade the importance then11:12
davmor2jibel: will do11:12
jibeldavmor2, I cannot find the "lack of wifi" bug on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports/defects , what's the bug number?11:12
davmor2jibel: not really a bug which is why.11:12
davmor2I need to double check it this morning11:13
davmor2jibel: I'm pretty sure it is just the wifi is a broadcom chip or something and needs 3rd party drivers live session should be able to tell me in a minute though11:14
jibeldavmor2, probably, I don't remember the chipset in this machine11:14
jibeldavmor2, what does lspci says?11:14
davmor2jibel: set the bug low and added a comment but I'll keep an eye open for it, mac  booting up now11:18
davmor2jibel: so it is a broadcom corp Airport Extreem which requires a binary driver \o/11:27
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jibelelfy, knome do you have a release notes for Beta 2, there is nothing INPROGRESS: Beta 2 testing12:43
jibeloops12:43
jibelhere https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Beta2/Xubuntu12:43
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elfyjibel: not yet - just off out for a short while - it will be there12:43
jibelok12:43
elfyand thanks for picking up on this keyboard issue - I was getting close to bald pulling hair out ...12:44
elfyjibel: it is there now - even if we fiddle with it a bit later13:00
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rvrelopio: Meeting time!13:07
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davmor2jibel: should I be worried by the new builds ;) did you want some upgrade tests running ?14:50
jibeldavmor2, it's fine, I managed to run some upgrade tests this morning14:52
davmor2jibel: from latest and precise?14:52
jibeldavmor2, from precise14:52
davmor2jibel: okay I'll run some saucy ones then then both are covered14:53
davmor2I'm assuming it'll be fine but good to check :)14:53
jibeldavmor2, if you can just verify that the world doesn't fall apart when you run a "screen reader" installation, that'd be nice15:06
jibeleven in a vm15:06
davmor2I can do that15:07
stgraberjibel: do you have anyone doing a Chinese install test? I tried one yesterday and I can't seem to switch between the pinyin input method (default) and the standard input method (us keyboard). The indicator is very confusing and ctrl+space/meta+space don't appear to work.15:10
stgraberbut since everything was in zh_CN, that may just have been me being confused ;)15:10
jibelstgraber, I did and indeed I had to switch manually from the indicator. I thought it was because I didn't understand chinese and did something wrong :)15:13
jibelstgraber, also after login sometimes pinyin is enabled and sometimes it is not15:14
jibelstgraber, I'll ask a real CJK (or at least some one who understand it) to review this before the release15:15
jibelfor Beta 2 it is a bit too late15:15
stgraberyeah, things seem to be very different from what I was used to in past releases where we'd default to the regular input method, then switch to pinyin with ctrl+space15:15
stgraberalso, I'm not seeing the usual live completion window for pinyin => chinese15:16
jibelstgraber, from the preference the shortcut is now Super + space15:16
stgraberah, so it may have been unity eating the Super key when I tried in my VM...15:17
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davmor2jibel: screen reader works but it's detection of some of the text is a bit meh15:43
jibeldavmor2, okay, it has always been a bit meh. But at least it doesn't make the installer crash?15:49
davmor2jibel: give it time it's not complete yet ;)15:50
davmor2nearly though15:50
davmor2jibel: okay completed no crashing :)15:53
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davmor2Man upgrades take so LONG17:14
elopioalesage, rvr, rhuddie: my branch to fill the address book form has landed17:15
elopioso the first part of our first test is finally unblocked.17:15
rvrelopio: Cool17:15
alesageelopio eexcellent17:15
elopioom26er: any progress getting ubuntu-integration-tests to run in jenkins?17:15
om26erelopio, i didn't work on it for a while, but enabling that in CI is simple enough as just adding an entry to cupstream2distro-config17:16
om26erelopio, we can probably request fginther for that17:16
elopioom26er: ok, I'll get to it next week.17:17
elopioom26er: what about the rename?17:17
om26erelopio, rename has been done17:20
om26erelopio, its not ubuntu_experience_tests17:20
elopioom26er: cool, thanks.17:20
om26erelopio, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/ubuntu-experience-tests17:20
om26eronly the branch needs changing, which the admin can do, (Hello balloons :)17:21
* balloons waves17:21
balloonsso would you like me to change the branch name right now?17:21
om26erballoons, mind changing that branch https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/ubuntu-experience-tests to ubuntu-experience-tests ?17:21
om26erballoons, yes, its currently lp:ubuntu-autopilot-tests/ubuntu-integration-tests17:22
balloonsom26er, actually it says the name is ubuntu-experience-tests now17:22
balloonshmm17:22
om26erballoons, yes, I changed that only for the link but the lp branch name is still "integration"17:22
balloonsI see got it17:23
balloonsdone17:23
om26erballoons, cool, admins are so powerful17:23
balloonsom26er, elopio speaking of admins, I should share some of this admin power now. Who wants in?17:24
om26erballoons, I am not going to be working on that code base so elopio is the right candidate probably.17:24
elopioballoons: yes, me please.17:25
elopioalesage: did you have any luck running the unity8 tests?17:26
balloonselopio, done :-)17:26
alesageelopio no haven't looked at today yet, any news?17:27
elfyhi balloons17:27
elopioalesage: on the desktop, no good news, now it doesn't even unlocks the screen. But on the phone they are running nicely.17:27
elopioI will work on the phone for now.17:28
balloonshi elfy17:28
alesageelopio ok17:29
infinityAny lubuntu folks around?17:35
elopioom26er: review, please:  https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/flake8/+merge/21311917:41
om26erelopio, assuming flake8 is pep8 ?17:41
om26eror both pyflakes and pep8 ?17:42
elopioboth.17:42
elopiowith some extra sugar that thomi likes17:42
om26ertests, works as expected. Approved17:46
elopioom26er: we have to manually land things here, right?17:51
om26erelopio, I did manual merges previously, given its not in Ubuntu (yet) its fine to land things manually17:52
elopiook17:53
elopioom26er: and you where trying to get it into trusty, right? How did it go?17:53
om26erelopio, I don't think it has landed, sil2100 did some initial work to make it in compliance with CI train but then he got busy with other things so it never landed into ubuntu17:54
elopioI guess it's now better to wait for the U cycle.17:55
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elopioalesage: I've left you a long comment on the indicators branch.18:22
alesageelopio, exciting, thanks :)18:22
elopioI'm sorry, now I know more about the unity8 tests code, so I can be twice as mean with my reviews :D18:23
alesageelopio, if we keep multiplying by two eventually we'll get a buffer overflow on meanness :)18:28
infinityAnyone?  Any lubuntu testy people around?18:30
infinityjibel / balloons: Who should I be poking directly for a lubuntu goahead?18:31
infinity(Manifest claims gilir, but he's not around)18:31
balloonsinfinity, I don't believe anyone replaced phil, so it fails to gilir18:31
balloons*falls18:32
infinityAlright, I'm going to just make an executive decision to not release their ppc/desktop ISO, since the bug linked to it sounds pretty bad.18:32
balloonsinfinity, I wonder if the final release will see a ppc image?18:38
infinityballoons: Depends on if their bug gets fixed, I guess.18:38
infinityballoons: (It'll have a ppc ubuntu server image, which is all I really care about, but happy to help if people have patches or good bug reports)18:39
infinityballoons: Also, it seems no one even noticed that mythbuntu wasn't on the manifest / iso tracker.  Did no one step forward to do any testing and ask about it? :/18:39
balloonsoO18:40
infinityI wonder if their "LTS-only" plan backfired, cause they've gotten out of the habit of doing milestones for two years...18:40
balloonsYea, I've not been in habit of looking for the images either.. no one has18:41
balloonsHave to ask Thomas18:42
balloonsinfinity, they have been doing 12.04 point releases, so :-)18:42
infinityballoons: Could be, perhaps, that none of them are subscribed to the right lists to have noticed the freeze announcements?18:44
infinity(Which would be a pretty subtle hint that one might need to test ISOs)18:44
balloonsinfinity, I'll ping thomas directly and make sure he knows about the final release needs18:44
infinityballoons: If you could be a dear as community QA dude and chase them up for me, that would be awesome.  They obviously have missed the beta at this point, but I'm not going to disqualify them from final for it, when literally none of us seemed to notice.18:45
infinity(How none of us noticed is a bit extra confusing... I guess the list is just getting long...)18:46
infinityHaving the upgrades and other non-ISO things on the same page also muddies up any attempt to tally totals.18:46
balloonsyea, it raises a red flag, heh18:47
infinitystgraber: Speaking of that.  Would it be hard to make the non-ISO products (upgrades, cloud images, netboot) be not alphabetically mingled in, or even on another page?18:47
infinitystgraber: It's actually pretty hard to scroll through all the crap to eyeball image readiness.18:48
infinitys/non-ISO/non-cdimage/ I guess.18:49
stgraberinfinity: you know you can just untick them in the list on the left and then they won't bother you anymore18:50
infinitystgraber: (Yes, I know I can uncheck them, but then they're gone from view entirely until I remember to undo THAT)18:50
stgraber:)18:50
infinityA split view of "cdimage products" and "other products" (with the form actions duplicated under each set, so one doesn't need to scroll all the way down to mark images) might be nice.18:51
infinityOh, whee, guess who forgot to do source CDs too.18:52
infinityI bet those still publish weirdly as well.18:52
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elopioalesage: can you review this one for me, please?21:56
elopiohttps://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/unity8/search_updated/+merge/21315521:56
alesageelopio ok21:59
elopioalesage: I also have another branch with a data object patter for when we have a big form.22:03
alesageelopio ok22:04
elopioI'm not sure if I already showed it to you22:04
elopiohttps://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/address-book-app/fill_form-professional/+merge/20892922:04
elopioit's big, so don't hurry. Whenever you have time.22:04
alesageelopio I'll have a look in a bit22:04
* elopio breaks. 22:05
elopioI'll be back in the night to make up for the morning hours I missed.22:05
alesageelopio, ok I'll do reviews22:07
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