| neuro | yay, it's officially pay day! (for me) | 00:00 |
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| mapp | ;] | 00:08 |
| mapp | yay | 00:08 |
| mapp | lol thats so stupud how did that happen neuro | 00:08 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: hey, you alive? | 03:00 |
| ali1234 | sure | 03:00 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: got a couple random questions about netbooting, figured you'd have all the answers | 03:00 |
| ali1234 | maybe | 03:01 |
| Azelphur | 1) Can I set my router (openwrt) up so that I netboot from a machine in the network that isn't the router?, 2) I'm thinking it would be cool to set up some kind of system where I can just throw a ISO in a folder and have it automatically available for netboot, is something like this possible? | 03:01 |
| Azelphur | I've noticed pxe has some iso options, so I could probably just automatically generate the config file | 03:01 |
| ali1234 | yes | 03:01 |
| Azelphur | sweet :) | 03:01 |
| ali1234 | why wouldn't you? | 03:01 |
| Azelphur | well because in all the googling I've done, nobody seems to be doing it like that for some reason | 03:02 |
| neuro | crazy awake people at 3am ... | 03:02 |
| ali1234 | how else would they do it? | 03:02 |
| ali1234 | i don't understand what the router has got to do with it? | 03:02 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: it seems like most people extract the ISO and serve it direct from a folder, and only do one operating system, the few multiboot setups I've seen do the same | 03:02 |
| ali1234 | you "netboot" grub and it does the rest | 03:03 |
| Azelphur | oh, I wasn't sure if I could have the netboot server be the machine that isn't the DHCP server | 03:03 |
| ali1234 | sure | 03:03 |
| Azelphur | which is why I mentioned | 03:03 |
| neuro | can be anything running tftp | 03:03 |
| neuro | or whatever | 03:03 |
| Azelphur | fun | 03:03 |
| Azelphur | I shall play with this some more I suppose, then :) | 03:04 |
| ali1234 | you don't even need the router to do the initial dhcp request | 03:05 |
| Azelphur | oh? | 03:05 |
| ali1234 | you can have multiple dhcp servers on a network | 03:05 |
| Azelphur | really? I thought that broke the universe? | 03:05 |
| ali1234 | no | 03:05 |
| ali1234 | as long as you configure them so they don't step on each other's toes | 03:06 |
| neuro | not if they're configured correctly | 03:06 |
| Azelphur | I see | 03:06 |
| ali1234 | istr that pxe dhcp requests are "different" somehow | 03:06 |
| ali1234 | so they won't pick up an IP from a "normal" server | 03:06 |
| Azelphur | ah | 03:06 |
| ali1234 | so if your second dhcp server only serves pxe requests, there will be no conflict | 03:06 |
| ali1234 | i'm not 100% sure about this though | 03:06 |
| Azelphur | and if my first server doesn't serve pxe requests, I assume | 03:07 |
| ali1234 | yes | 03:07 |
| Azelphur | anyway, I'll try and take the easiest route to success, as this is all learning curve for me | 03:07 |
| ali1234 | well, no | 03:07 |
| ali1234 | your first server could answer the pxe request with an ip allocation but if it doesn't also specify the PXE boot files, the cliet will just ignore it | 03:07 |
| ali1234 | i think, anyway | 03:07 |
| Azelphur | ah :P | 03:07 |
| neuro | sounds like things are getting unnecessarily complicated :) | 03:07 |
| Azelphur | indeed, hehe | 03:08 |
| ali1234 | yeah if you have openwrt just use that | 03:08 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: well, I'd require additional hardware, plus I have a home server, I figure it's better to have all the ISOs (And scripts for generating menu configs) on there. | 03:08 |
| ali1234 | if you had some stupid manufacturer firmware it might be harder | 03:08 |
| Azelphur | the router has no mass storage :) | 03:08 |
| ali1234 | sure but you can put the tftp server elsewhere | 03:08 |
| neuro | you don't need the storage on the router | 03:08 |
| Azelphur | oh, I see | 03:09 |
| neuro | next-server 192.168.whatever.whatever; | 03:09 |
| ali1234 | my suggestion to you is "try it" | 03:09 |
| neuro | filename "pxelinux.0"; | 03:09 |
| neuro | boom | 03:09 |
| ali1234 | and watch what happens with tcpdump/wireshark | 03:09 |
| Azelphur | I am, been reading a lot of stuff and trying some things :P | 03:09 |
| ali1234 | yes, "next-server" | 03:10 |
| ali1234 | if the PXE gets a response that does not have a "next-server" then it should just ignore it | 03:10 |
| ali1234 | i once had a computer that could only pxe boot from a novell netware server | 03:11 |
| Azelphur | so, TFTP in this case is serving the ISOs right? A lot of stuff mentions NFS, is that just for stuff that requires it's own storage space for writing (eg running a OS, rather than just the installer) | 03:11 |
| ali1234 | it didn't use tftp at all | 03:11 |
| ali1234 | that was weird | 03:11 |
| neuro | probably used ncp | 03:12 |
| ali1234 | NFS is when you want to remote mount a writable filesystem | 03:12 |
| ali1234 | neuro: yup, that was it | 03:12 |
| Azelphur | yup, thought so | 03:12 |
| neuro | ah netware | 03:12 |
| neuro | my old nemesis | 03:12 |
| ali1234 | Azelphur: tftp is for like, the kernel and initrd | 03:12 |
| ali1234 | netware was good for the time | 03:12 |
| ali1234 | when you only had DOS and windows 3.1 | 03:13 |
| ali1234 | it "just worked" | 03:13 |
| neuro | well | 03:13 |
| neuro | that and your nic drivers | 03:13 |
| ali1234 | which is more than you can say for NT 3.whatever | 03:13 |
| neuro | and the netware client stuff | 03:13 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: and pxelinux, where does that fit in? | 03:14 |
| ali1234 | Azelphur: that's the bootloader, like grub | 03:14 |
| Azelphur | ah | 03:14 |
| ali1234 | maybe displays a menu to choose OS | 03:15 |
| Azelphur | so I shouldn't be using that, if I want to use GRUB to boot ISOs? | 03:15 |
| ali1234 | yeah | 03:15 |
| neuro | um | 03:15 |
| neuro | huh? | 03:15 |
| ali1234 | pxelinux is part of isolinux collection of utils | 03:15 |
| neuro | why would you even ... | 03:15 |
| ali1234 | you should use pxelinux instead of grub, it's probaby easier | 03:16 |
| ali1234 | it does the same thing | 03:16 |
| neuro | yeah | 03:16 |
| neuro | exactly | 03:16 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: righto, yea, I've seen some documentation for using ISOs with it too, I will stick with it. | 03:16 |
| Azelphur | starting to understand what everything does now \o/ | 03:16 |
| neuro | you set your pxelinux.cfg to use a kernel and the iso to boot from | 03:16 |
| neuro | no point in using grub | 03:16 |
| neuro | sorry, i'm being grumpy | 03:17 |
| neuro | i need a cigarette | 03:17 |
| neuro | but i have none | 03:17 |
| Azelphur | hehe | 03:17 |
| neuro | the smoker's lament | 03:18 |
| ali1234 | pxe booting an iso is slow if you don't have gigabit btw | 03:18 |
| ali1234 | it copies the whole thing afaik | 03:18 |
| Azelphur | that's fine, my whole network is gigabit | 03:19 |
| Azelphur | I even have some 802.11ac bits in here, my network is pretty modern \o/ | 03:19 |
| Azelphur | obviously irrelevant to pxe, just showing off xD | 03:20 |
| neuro | oooooOOOOooooooh | 03:20 |
| neuro | *handbag* | 03:20 |
| Azelphur | haha | 03:20 |
| Azelphur | neuro: and proper, Intel open source driver 802.11ac too! | 03:20 |
| * neuro is mainly GigE (apart from a holdout 100 meg switch under my desk) and 802.11n (APPLE!) | 03:20 | |
| neuro | open source wifi drivers concern me not :) | 03:21 |
| neuro | no linux desktop installs do i have | 03:21 |
| neuro | speaking like yoda for some reason, i am | 03:21 |
| Azelphur | neuro: pfft, I don't even own any non-linux machines any more | 03:22 |
| neuro | meh | 03:22 |
| Azelphur | Desktop (Xubuntu 13.10) TV is powered by Xubuntu 13.10 and XBMC, Laptop is Xubuntu 13.10, Phone and tablet are both Android. | 03:22 |
| neuro | i still don't buy the "android is linux" thing | 03:23 |
| neuro | it has a linux kernel and core, big woop | 03:23 |
| neuro | so does my TV :) | 03:23 |
| Azelphur | neuro: I've done fairly Linuxy things with it, on my old phone I'd dive into /proc/ and change the brightness lower than the UI allowed so I could read at night on it ;) | 03:24 |
| Azelphur | by /proc I of course mean /dev >.< | 03:24 |
| Azelphur | and I've chrooted Ubuntu on pretty much all my devices | 03:24 |
| neuro | you've what? | 03:25 |
| Azelphur | you can install Ubuntu in a chroot and VNC into localhost to get at it. | 03:25 |
| neuro | i know what a chroot is | 03:25 |
| neuro | it was more a wtf "what" than an i don't understand "what" | 03:26 |
| neuro | :) | 03:26 |
| Azelphur | neuro: yea, you can do that on Android, so I've had the full desktop version of Ubuntu on an Android device like that | 03:26 |
| ali1234 | y u do dis? | 03:26 |
| Azelphur | it's the only way, afaik? | 03:26 |
| * neuro boggles | 03:26 | |
| ali1234 | yeah but why would you even want that? | 03:26 |
| neuro | just because, i guess :) | 03:26 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: admittedly it was entirely useless, but it was fun to try. | 03:26 |
| neuro | hackers don't always need reasons | 03:27 |
| Azelphur | hehe | 03:27 |
| Azelphur | although I haven't tried it on newer devices, I think it'd be cool to plug HDMI out in and have a full desktop running like that on a large monitor. | 03:27 |
| Azelphur | I reckon the newer devices with quad core processors would run it reasonably fast | 03:27 |
| Azelphur | back when I did it on my HTC Desire Z it was only a single core 800mhz (overclocked to 1.7) so it was fairly slow | 03:27 |
| ali1234 | sure as long as you didn't load up firefox or open office | 03:28 |
| Azelphur | haha | 03:28 |
| neuro | or, you know, try to use it | 03:28 |
| neuro | at all | 03:28 |
| ali1234 | yeah basically | 03:28 |
| Azelphur | xD | 03:28 |
| ali1234 | no gcc | 03:28 |
| neuro | god, can you imagine compiling a kernel? :) | 03:28 |
| ali1234 | i've done it | 03:28 |
| Azelphur | have you guys seen nemomobile? that's really got my attention at the moment | 03:28 |
| ali1234 | it took forever | 03:28 |
| ali1234 | Azelphur: go buy a jolla then | 03:29 |
| ali1234 | it's the same core | 03:29 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: but NemoMobile will run native on Nexus devices | 03:29 |
| neuro | i have not seen nemomobile, no | 03:29 |
| ali1234 | so will jolla then, if you port it | 03:29 |
| ali1234 | *sailfish | 03:29 |
| neuro | but then again i'm not a mobile hacky person | 03:29 |
| neuro | so i don't keep up | 03:29 |
| Azelphur | neuro: it looks really interesting, fully open source, runs wayland, has android app compatibility | 03:29 |
| neuro | i didn't realise people were still futzing around with meego-based stuff | 03:29 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: I saw sailfish but I didn't approve as it has closed source elements, nemomobile is basically sailfish without the proprietary bits. | 03:30 |
| ali1234 | neuro: jolla is meego | 03:30 |
| neuro | see? | 03:30 |
| neuro | told you i don't keep up | 03:30 |
| neuro | to be honest, i want my phone to Just Work | 03:30 |
| ali1234 | Azelphur: yes, exactly | 03:30 |
| neuro | hence, iphone | 03:30 |
| ali1234 | the android layer in sailfish is proprietary btw | 03:30 |
| * neuro hugs his iphone | 03:30 | |
| Azelphur | really? that's odd, I thought the jvm thing was open source | 03:30 |
| ali1234 | i have not heard about it being available in nemo | 03:31 |
| * neuro hugs his other iphone | 03:31 | |
| Azelphur | guess you can't have everything | 03:31 |
| * neuro hugs his additional iphone | 03:31 | |
| ali1234 | maybe they have a different, free implementation (in which case it probably sucks) | 03:31 |
| * Azelphur stabs neuro 3 times, once for every iphone | 03:31 | |
| neuro | i really need to get rid of some of these phones | 03:31 |
| neuro | i have a 4 from 2010, a 4S from 2011 and a 5s I bought myself a fortnight-ish ago | 03:32 |
| Azelphur | it still interests me anyway, it's definitely sounding like a step up from Android. | 03:32 |
| neuro | why le stab? | 03:32 |
| Azelphur | lots of potential there | 03:32 |
| ali1234 | i'll let you know when i get mine | 03:32 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: cool | 03:32 |
| ali1234 | that reminds me | 03:32 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: I don't like the jolla, specs are weak, price is high | 03:33 |
| Azelphur | nexus is much better value for money hardware wise and is likely to get the OS ported to it in the first 5 minutes | 03:33 |
| ali1234 | yeah but it's nokia quality | 03:33 |
| Azelphur | Nexus 5 seems pretty decent quality to me, I've had no issues with it | 03:34 |
| ali1234 | is it still LG> | 03:34 |
| ali1234 | because i heard it's plastic trash | 03:34 |
| Azelphur | yea, it's essentially a slightly lower specced version of LGs flagship, the G2 | 03:35 |
| Azelphur | which is the current highest specced device in the phone arena, iirc | 03:35 |
| ali1234 | i doubt that | 03:35 |
| ali1234 | isn't that the SGS4? | 03:36 |
| Azelphur | no way, the S4 is far weaker, the S4 is pretty old now | 03:36 |
| Azelphur | the S5 is due in a few days, that'll beat the G2 | 03:37 |
| neuro | "beat" ... | 03:37 |
| neuro | the S4 is only 10 months old, btw | 03:37 |
| Azelphur | neuro: in terms of raw processing power :P | 03:37 |
| ali1234 | the S4 has 8 cores... | 03:37 |
| neuro | who needs "raw processing power" on a frickin' phone? | 03:37 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: no, it has two four core processors, and one of them is wimpy. | 03:37 |
| ali1234 | same memory | 03:37 |
| ali1234 | better GPU | 03:38 |
| neuro | quad core? | 03:38 |
| Azelphur | it's a power saving feature, not a performance one | 03:38 |
| neuro | you sure? | 03:38 |
| neuro | oops, 8 core i mean | 03:38 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: Quad-core 1.6 GHz Cortex-A15 & quad-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A7 | 03:38 |
| Azelphur | the A7 being wimpy, and the A15 being crucified by the 2.3ghz krait 400 in the Nexus 5 | 03:38 |
| neuro | i must be missing the point here | 03:39 |
| neuro | THESE ARE TELEPHONES | 03:39 |
| ali1234 | you don't need to tell me, i know | 03:39 |
| Azelphur | neuro: nope, they are full computers that happen to be able to make phone calls. | 03:39 |
| Azelphur | wrong attitude ;) | 03:39 |
| neuro | if I wanted a portable computer, I would have a laptop or a tablet | 03:40 |
| neuro | OH WAIT, I DO | 03:40 |
| ali1234 | they are not full computers. they do not have 24" screen, keyboard & mouse | 03:40 |
| Azelphur | neuro: so do I, there are places laptops and tablets can't go, however ;) | 03:40 |
| neuro | I want my portable telephone to be a portable telephone first and foremost | 03:40 |
| neuro | which means I want the battery to last as long as possible | 03:40 |
| ali1234 | they do not have intel i7 processor and nvidia GTX780 | 03:40 |
| neuro | because it is a portable telephone | 03:40 |
| ali1234 | they do not have 32GB of ram | 03:41 |
| Azelphur | neuro: each to his own, I use my phone as a computer regularly | 03:41 |
| ali1234 | they don't have 4TB of storage | 03:41 |
| neuro | and if my portable telephone has a quad core ridiculous thingamabob which eats power, it will be less useful to me as a portable telephone | 03:41 |
| ali1234 | +1 | 03:41 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: true, but then neither do most laptops, the smaller you go the lower the hardware | 03:41 |
| ali1234 | battery life is the most important feature on a phone | 03:41 |
| Azelphur | neuro: personal preference | 03:41 |
| neuro | the fact that my portable telephone can also do apps and the like is a welcome bonus | 03:41 |
| Azelphur | I solve battery life by carring a 10k mAh battery in my coat pocket, it'll do me for around 5 days. | 03:41 |
| neuro | the fact also that i am on an unlimited data plan should show that i'm not exactly being a luddite here | 03:42 |
| ali1234 | i use my phone for totally different things than my computer | 03:42 |
| neuro | that's not SOLVING BATTERY LIFE | 03:42 |
| ali1234 | i use my phone to make phone calls, check email, and look at a map | 03:42 |
| Azelphur | works for me ;) | 03:42 |
| ali1234 | i do not need quad core for that | 03:42 |
| ali1234 | i only use my phone when i am outside my house | 03:42 |
| * neuro points at his iPhone 5s | 03:42 | |
| neuro | dual core, baby | 03:42 |
| neuro | fast as hell | 03:42 |
| ali1234 | iphone sucks man | 03:42 |
| neuro | yeah yeah | 03:42 |
| ali1234 | i am still using SGS1 with 512mb and single core | 03:43 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: I use mine for everything, all of what you said, I hdmi out and use playstation controllers, play games on it, SSH, mumble, steam, xbmc, etc etc... | 03:43 |
| Azelphur | basically, I can use my phone for almost anything I'd use a desktop for. | 03:43 |
| ali1234 | yes but why would you want to? | 03:43 |
| Azelphur | because it's far more portable | 03:43 |
| neuro | i'll just leave this sitting here ... https://www.dropbox.com/s/ehtkd9zs5k08h5o/Photo%2027-03-2014%2003%2036%2027.png | 03:43 |
| ali1234 | when i go outside my house i talk to people and do things | 03:43 |
| ali1234 | i don't go on irc on my phone | 03:43 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: I'm an introvert, when I go outside...I avoid people ;) | 03:44 |
| ali1234 | STOP IT | 03:44 |
| Azelphur | haha | 03:44 |
| neuro | i understand and agree that it's each to their own | 03:45 |
| Azelphur | indeed, it is :) | 03:45 |
| Azelphur | I don't hate on people who only want a Nokia 3210. | 03:45 |
| neuro | i just don't see the point in quad core 5.5" screen stupid monster phones running crap OSes | 03:45 |
| Azelphur | neuro: 5.5" screen makes typing so much easier. | 03:45 |
| neuro | quite happy with my dual core 64bit 4" display awesomeness | 03:45 |
| Azelphur | although I miss the days we had slider keyboards | 03:45 |
| ali1234 | stop typing stuff on your phone | 03:45 |
| Azelphur | xD | 03:45 |
| neuro | i can type just peachy on the iphone form factor | 03:45 |
| Azelphur | I have a laptop too you know, and a tablet | 03:46 |
| neuro | bigger displays confuse me | 03:46 |
| Azelphur | they all have their place, I use them all regularly | 03:46 |
| neuro | not tablety enough | 03:46 |
| neuro | also 5.5" screen is not one-handable | 03:46 |
| ali1234 | the jolla phone has replaceable backs that can add features such as a hardware keyboard btw | 03:46 |
| neuro | unless you're a mega hand person or something | 03:46 |
| Azelphur | neuro: yea, 5.5" is a bit big for a phone, nexus 5 is a 5" and about as large as I'd like | 03:46 |
| ali1234 | if you've got a 3d printer you could even build your own | 03:46 |
| neuro | 5" screen is too much for me too | 03:46 |
| neuro | 4" screen is just perfick for me | 03:47 |
| Azelphur | neuro: that said, my dad wants a 6". His eyesight isn't great and he feels he'd work much better with a larger screen | 03:47 |
| Azelphur | personal preference strikes again :P | 03:47 |
| ali1234 | http://www.jollatides.com/2014/03/13/prototype-other-half-keyboard-demo/ | 03:47 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: nice :o | 03:47 |
| neuro | god that's ugly | 03:47 |
| neuro | and yet another thing to break | 03:47 |
| ali1234 | it's ugly cos it's 3d printed | 03:48 |
| neuro | i mean in general design | 03:48 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: I've always wished someone would make something like that for the Nexus 5, that's really cool | 03:48 |
| neuro | look at the size of the keys!!! | 03:48 |
| neuro | the keys on the display are bigger than the ones they're meant to be replaced by | 03:48 |
| ali1234 | see i told you to get jolla :) | 03:48 |
| Azelphur | grumble | 03:48 |
| ali1234 | the keyboard is quite obviously from another phone | 03:48 |
| ali1234 | it's a prototype, jeez | 03:48 |
| Azelphur | yea, it looks like a droid keyboard | 03:48 |
| ali1234 | the point is anyone can make their own keyboard, or other things | 03:49 |
| neuro | again, sorry, as much as i respect hardware hackers, i prefer my phone to actually work all of the time without rooting, jailbreaking, hacking, grafting, printing, soldering ... | 03:49 |
| neuro | oh and lightning cable ... *drool* | 03:49 |
| ali1234 | it's fully supported | 03:49 |
| neuro | DOES. NOT. MATTER. WHICH. WAY. IT. GETS. PLUGGED. IN! | 03:50 |
| ali1234 | it's designed for companies to make addons | 03:50 |
| neuro | i have fingerprinty unlockness | 03:50 |
| neuro | i have tethery goodness | 03:50 |
| neuro | i have camera awesomeness | 03:50 |
| neuro | i have app coolness | 03:50 |
| neuro | and i have portable telephoneness | 03:50 |
| neuro | <- happy camper | 03:50 |
| ali1234 | http://jolla.com/the-other-half-developer-kit <- specs | 03:51 |
| Azelphur | indeed, looks fancy | 03:55 |
| neuro | email from 10 mins ago ... "Thank you for your order. Your order has now been despatched via 'UPS Delivery' and should be with you shortly." | 04:00 |
| neuro | order was delivered 15 hrs ago | 04:00 |
| mapps | yo | 05:47 |
| mapp | sheesh | 06:10 |
| mapp | Anyone awake? | 06:11 |
| jussi | mapp: vaguely | 06:12 |
| mapp | :D | 06:13 |
| mapp | just feeling sad | 06:13 |
| mapp | my friend mentioned my mum tonight;/ | 06:13 |
| jussi | :( | 06:14 |
| MooDoo | hello all | 06:41 |
| MooDoo | hello all | 07:57 |
| === Hornet- is now known as Hornet | ||
| diplo | Morning all | 08:52 |
| MooDoo | morning diplo | 08:56 |
| === map is now known as Guest20838 | ||
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| TheOpenSourcerer | Blimey - This is some serious bit coining mining: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/03/meet-the-manic-miner-who-wants-to-mint-10-of-all-new-bitcoins/ | 09:04 |
| MooDoo | TheOpenSourcerer: lets do it, steal alanbells pi's and we'll be set | 09:08 |
| MartijnVdS | Pile of Pis | 09:09 |
| jussi | !pie-#ubuntu-offtopic | 09:10 |
| lubotu3 | PIE PIE PIE, mmm PI PI PI http://ikanobori.jp/storage/pi_e.jpg or http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3663/3358637054_9f756a3615.jpg | 09:10 |
| diplo | What has happened to the Pile of Pi's, not heard anything ref that recently | 09:10 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | They are sitting in a rack in our office | 09:10 |
| MartijnVdS | building packages | 09:10 |
| MartijnVdS | ? | 09:10 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Not yet - they are not paowered up right now. | 09:11 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ARteM3rEi4w/UzPrSLseNuI/AAAAAAAAO4M/e0M57nz6igY/w669-h893-no/20140327_091105.jpg | 09:15 |
| MartijnVdS | TheOpenSourcerer: shiny ethernet cables :) | 09:17 |
| MartijnVdS | or wait | 09:17 |
| MartijnVdS | those are USB power cables | 09:17 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Yeah - the ones at the front are USB for power | 09:17 |
| diplo | Nice, looks good | 09:19 |
| diplo | When do you expect to make a start on it ? | 09:19 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Dunno. Better ask the other alan - who isn't around right now. | 09:20 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Lol: https://plus.google.com/104060033182234025482/posts/cqbuQKfL6rD | 09:27 |
| MartijnVdS | TheOpenSourcerer: those are targeted, you know :P | 09:30 |
| MartijnVdS | Big Data is never wrong | 09:30 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I was worried that might be the case | 09:30 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Spanish Paella Day! :-D | 09:35 |
| jussi | JamesTait: oh, I totally forgot, I need to inform you that this week is international Doula week! | 09:36 |
| JamesTait | International what now? | 09:37 |
| jussi | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doula | 09:37 |
| JamesTait | Interesting! | 09:38 |
| jussi | http://www.worlddoulaweek.com/ | 09:38 |
| jussi | JamesTait: why do I know this? My wife is a doula... :D | 09:38 |
| JamesTait | In my head, that sounds like dueller for some reason. :-P | 09:39 |
| jussi | its more like Doh-la | 09:40 |
| jussi | doh! :P | 09:40 |
| bashrc | nice | 09:46 |
| foobarry | how can i avoid windows from blatting my mbr? | 10:04 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| === funkyHat_ is now known as funkyHat | ||
| foobarry | besides installing it first...i did install first but windows is blue screening on boot | 10:04 |
| MartijnVdS | foobarry: by not re-installing it | 10:04 |
| foobarry | its for vsphere client | 10:04 |
| jussi | foobarry: I dont think you can, just have a ubuntu usb on hand to repair it later | 10:05 |
| foobarry | then run supergrub? | 10:05 |
| jussi | !grub | 10:05 |
| lubotu3 | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 | 10:05 |
| foobarry | sweet | 10:05 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 10:05 |
| foobarry | windows got killed by gpt issues | 10:05 |
| bigcalm | GEC Plessey Telecommunications? | 10:11 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 10:11 |
| === funkyHat_ is now known as funkyHat | ||
| TheOpenSourcerer | bigcalm: Now there's a name I haven't heard in years: GPT. When I were a lad in field service for Gandalf, I used to maintain lots of PACX for GPT all over the UK. | 10:42 |
| MooDoo | my friend used to work for GPT when it was in beeston notts | 10:45 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Went to Beeston a few times. They had R&D places all over the south cost and west country mainly. | 10:46 |
| bigcalm | My father worked for GEC -> GPT -> Marconi Communications -> Lord Simpson bought too much stuff and fudged it for everybody -> "early retirement" | 10:46 |
| brobostigon | beeston, as in nottingham? | 10:47 |
| foobarry | how do i know what files will be delivered by a git pull? | 10:47 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | The old joke in our office was "'Plessy Havant got a PACX' get in your car lordy" ;-) | 10:47 |
| MooDoo | brobostigon: that's the one | 10:47 |
| brobostigon | MooDoo: a friend of mines works at nottingham uni, an infrasctructure manager. | 10:48 |
| bigcalm | TheOpenSourcerer: long nosed pliers are still called 81s in our house | 10:48 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | ? | 10:49 |
| MooDoo | brobostigon: whats his name? | 10:49 |
| bigcalm | 81 was the code for a particular make/model of long nosed pliers | 10:49 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | lol | 10:49 |
| bigcalm | Within GEC/GPT | 10:50 |
| MooDoo | brobostigon: not darren is it? | 10:50 |
| bigcalm | My father used to install telephone exchanges in his 20s | 10:50 |
| === BigRedS is now known as BigRedS__ | ||
| bigcalm | And 30s come to think of it | 10:51 |
| === BigRedS_ is now known as BigRedS | ||
| brobostigon | MooDoo: edward | 10:52 |
| BigRedS__ | foobarry: I think there's a --no-merge option; AFAIK there's no built-in way to find out. You could note down your current commit, though, and check that out if you get stuff you don't want | 10:53 |
| bigcalm | What I do is use git log -1 to find out the current commit number. Then go to gitlab and compare commits | 10:55 |
| BigRedS | Ah, that makes me feel better about plumping for gitlab :) | 10:59 |
| BigRedS | but, yeah, every time I *need* to defer to the web ui to do something I perceive it as a failing in Git. Some of the things that're non-trivial are a bit weird | 11:00 |
| Laney | Couldn't you git fetch; git diff --stat FETCH_HEAD? | 11:04 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 11:10 |
| MooDoo | morning davmor2 how are you this fine day? | 11:13 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: I hate Paella Spanish or otherwise | 11:14 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: Good thanks, you? | 11:14 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: yeah ok thanks, little bit of #manflu, but ok :D | 11:15 |
| jussi | damn, I had forgotten how good Mr Cash is :D | 11:17 |
| jussi | fantastic, just fantastic! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aF9AJm0RFc | 11:18 |
| foobarry | i did a git pull | 11:20 |
| jussi | foobarry: did he scream? :P | 11:20 |
| foobarry | my problem was that git status showed local changes (naughty person) | 11:20 |
| JamesTait | davmor2, don't be such a spoil sport. ;) | 11:22 |
| JamesTait | davmor2, you're not going to be like this on the plane are you? "Eugh, I don't like that! Can I have a special meal?" :-P | 11:23 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: No I'm just not keen on fish and seafood so a rice dish that is primarily seafood not fun :) | 11:26 |
| foobarry | carlton from fresh prince is narrating this veeam video | 11:26 |
| JamesTait | davmor2, I'll let you off. ;) | 11:26 |
| foobarry | http://www.veeam.com/university/backup_and_replication_deployment.swf | 11:26 |
| SirMarky | Hello - just found this group, haven't been a big IRC user before. Just saying "Hi!" | 11:47 |
| brobostigon | welcome SirMarky | 11:48 |
| bigcalm | Hello :) | 11:54 |
| MooDoo | SirMarky: greetings :D | 11:54 |
| davmor2 | SirMarky: ow do | 12:01 |
| directhex | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvWGLcdI8o8 | 12:15 |
| MartijnVdS | directhex: release date: april 1 | 12:25 |
| directhex | MartijnVdS, yes! | 12:26 |
| directhex | april goat's day! | 12:26 |
| MartijnVdS | 8-) | 12:26 |
| MartijnVdS | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/culturevideo/10726111/Goat-Simulator-Official-Launch-Trailer-is-this-the-greatest-video-game-of-all-time.html | 12:27 |
| bigcalm | MartijnVdS: wow | 12:56 |
| bigcalm | Is it an April Fool's joke? | 12:58 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: I'm working on the assumption that it is. | 13:00 |
| MooDoo | wtf? | 13:00 |
| bigcalm | As you can't pre-order, I'm guessing it is | 13:01 |
| bigcalm | Looks like they had fun with garry's mod | 13:02 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| TheOpenSourcerer | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goat_Simulator | 13:10 |
| bigcalm | In git, is there a way to find out when a string 1st appeared in a commit? | 13:31 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: look for "pickaxe" searches (git log -S) | 13:32 |
| MartijnVdS | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5816134/git-finding-a-commit-that-introduced-a-string | 13:32 |
| bigcalm | MartijnVdS: eventually found what I was looking for with gitlab and a lot of scrolling. But will keep that in mind for next time :) | 13:34 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| dwatkins | http://www.redbubble.com/people/justin/works/4019382-i-broke-the-build - t-shirt | 14:03 |
| daftykins | :> | 14:06 |
| dwatkins | I may have recently bought several t-shirts from redbubble including this one: http://www.redbubble.com/people/samuriferret/works/11709980-1980-something-rebel-fighter | 14:15 |
| dwatkins | well, the one with the Millenium Falcon, anyway | 14:15 |
| neuro | this is still one of my favourite t-shirts: http://shirtoid.com/21518/chewie-and-han/ | 14:24 |
| neuro | albeit mine is not blue | 14:24 |
| daftykins | nice C&H style :D | 14:25 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/v6xnnado0vkqm7p/IMG_20140327_142239.jpg | 14:26 |
| dwatkins | neuro: I have one of those in red | 14:32 |
| dwatkins | I like their Mega Man / Tron crossover t-shirt, too | 14:33 |
| daftykins | it's almost tempting but i'm not a star wars fan | 14:33 |
| dwatkins | What's not to love about Star Wars? ;) | 14:34 |
| daftykins | the hype is roughly 100 powers greater than the product itself | 14:35 |
| === bashrc_ is now known as bashrc | ||
| shauno | just got an electricity bill for €12,030. not sure whether to frame it or leave the country. | 15:22 |
| MartijnVdS | Why not both? | 15:22 |
| Myrtti | for how much? how many cryptocurrency miners are you running in your basement? | 15:23 |
| MartijnVdS | Plantations? | 15:23 |
| daftykins | shauno: d'aww can you scan it/ take a pic? :) | 15:23 |
| shauno | lol! | 15:23 |
| shauno | ooh that helps, 1203 not 12030. something's still up :/ | 15:25 |
| mapp | er | 15:31 |
| mapp | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2590546/McStupid-Norwegian-teen-McDonalds-dinner-receipt-tattooed-ARM-dare-causing-mother-breakdown.html | 15:31 |
| mapp | lol | 15:31 |
| MartijnVdS | the Faily Fail | 15:33 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea | ||
| foobarry | windows is installing update 53 of 160. | 16:08 |
| foobarry | "why don't you go home, i'll be a while" | 16:08 |
| mapp | lo | 16:09 |
| mapp | l | 16:09 |
| dwatkins | Windows' update mechanism seems to be the worst way to enforce OS updates. | 16:19 |
| dwatkins | Perhaps it's changed in Windows 8, in fairness. | 16:19 |
| === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g | ||
| foobarry | my son loves star wars and doesn't even know what it is . just knows that he loves it | 16:23 |
| daftykins | dwatkins: how-so? | 16:30 |
| foobarry | can i change boot.ini to load a linux partition? | 16:42 |
| popey | yes, i think so, chain load | 16:46 |
| daftykins | definitely heard that's do-able yeah | 16:47 |
| dwatkins | daftykins: I believe Windows 8 installs patches at boot-time now instead | 17:01 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| directhex | ...boot.ini? | 17:03 |
| directhex | you really shouldn't still be running an NT5-series OS | 17:04 |
| dwatkins | technically, yes: http://bkpavan.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/how-to-boot-linux-using-windows-bootloader-xp/ | 17:04 |
| dwatkins | I'd trust that boot option about as far as I could throw my PC, though. | 17:04 |
| foobarry | directhex: sorry, dunno the name of the file in win7 | 17:04 |
| directhex | foobarry, there isn't one | 17:05 |
| foobarry | or how can i blat it from a live cd | 17:05 |
| directhex | foobarry, you use the "bcdedit" command to edit the boot records embedded in the partition | 17:05 |
| directhex | dwatkins, i used to do that to boot BeOS from the Win2K boot loader | 17:05 |
| dwatkins | aww, BeOS :) | 17:06 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/271jdkyyvs43x9b/lappy.wav | 17:07 |
| daftykins | this WD5000BEVT is one odd sounding disk | 17:07 |
| diddledan | lol @ windows startup chime in the middle | 17:12 |
| daftykins | :D | 17:14 |
| diddledan | and bah @ itunes adding that file to my music library | 17:14 |
| daftykins | _itunes_!? | 17:15 |
| daftykins | ugh | 17:15 |
| neuro | wav files? ugh! :) | 17:20 |
| daftykins | neuro: what would you rather? | 17:24 |
| daftykins | :) | 17:24 |
| bigcalm | Sounds like the disk is scraping on the draw | 17:24 |
| daftykins | draw 0o | 17:24 |
| neuro | flac? | 17:24 |
| neuro | aiff? | 17:24 |
| neuro | mp4? | 17:24 |
| bigcalm | draw, slot, case | 17:24 |
| daftykins | oh don't be ridiculous | 17:24 |
| bigcalm | Whatever is inside | 17:24 |
| daftykins | it was the default some little android sound recorder prog made ;) | 17:25 |
| neuro | you're ughing an apple app while using what is effectively a microsoft audio format :) | 17:25 |
| neuro | (i know it's not, but ipso facto etc) | 17:25 |
| daftykins | i think there's infinitely more weight behind ughing iTunes | 17:25 |
| neuro | just because you personally don't like it | 17:25 |
| daftykins | neuro you're in danger of dragging humour into serious territory, let's let it go now | 17:27 |
| neuro | you started it ;) | 17:27 |
| daftykins | anyway, glad that's not any HDD i own | 17:28 |
| daftykins | not that i'd have mechanical in a lappy :D | 17:28 |
| daftykins | nor own a 15" acer for that matter 0o | 17:28 |
| neuro | microsoft are kicking off a ton of stuff | 17:31 |
| neuro | Office for touch today on iOS, also coming to Windows and "other platforms" | 17:32 |
| bigcalm | OneNote is now available on all platforms bar linux | 17:32 |
| bigcalm | Meh | 17:32 |
| neuro | Windows Azure is now Microsoft Azure | 17:32 |
| neuro | that's an interesting change in and of itself | 17:33 |
| neuro | and amazon slashed EC2 and S3 pricing yesterday too | 17:34 |
| neuro | fun times | 17:34 |
| neuro | well, they announced it yesterday, takes effect from tuesday | 17:35 |
| diddledan | ooh, ec2 resudctionc? | 17:41 |
| diddledan | erm | 17:41 |
| diddledan | reductions** | 17:41 |
| diddledan | I have no idea what my fingers where thinking there | 17:42 |
| neuro | haha | 17:42 |
| neuro | yeah, check their blog | 17:42 |
| neuro | 10-40% reductions on c1/m1 | 17:43 |
| neuro | 30% on m3 | 17:43 |
| neuro | and so on | 17:43 |
| neuro | ah here it is | 17:44 |
| neuro | http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2014/03/aws-price-reduction-42-ec2-s3-rds-elasticache-and-elastic-mapreduce.html | 17:44 |
| diddledan | using a "cloud" is starting to become a no-brainer over dedicated hardware | 17:50 |
| diddledan | I pay hetzner 80€ ish per month for a single machine which if it dies I have to get a replacement for | 17:50 |
| neuro | i've been talking about this with my boss | 17:50 |
| diddledan | the hardware vendors are all clamouring to convince companies to "build your own cloud" | 17:50 |
| diddledan | and software at that | 17:50 |
| neuro | you have to weigh up performance versus scale and speed of deployment | 17:50 |
| diddledan | yeah | 17:50 |
| neuro | yeah, let's buy a few mid range servers from ovh, for example | 17:51 |
| diddledan | take vmware insisting that you use vmware to build a cloud | 17:51 |
| neuro | but when one of them dies on their arse, your time to scale back to same performance level is in hours, probably more like days, rather than minutes | 17:51 |
| neuro | well building a private cloud out of vmware bits would probably work | 17:52 |
| diddledan | if you had enough scale in having dozens of servers then you could rebalance but a "few" servers you can't | 17:52 |
| neuro | s/well/well,/ | 17:52 |
| neuro | but yeah, that's it | 17:52 |
| neuro | if you're running at datacentre sized private cloud scale, losing a physical host is nothing | 17:53 |
| neuro | especially if you're using vmotion-like shipping off to an active host thingy | 17:53 |
| neuro | but when you have like 3 servers with several VMs on each, losing one host is catastrophic | 17:53 |
| neuro | swings and roundabouts to be honest | 17:54 |
| neuro | i do like being able to blast compute requests at real hardware without worrying about lack of performance or blowing through an IOPS bundle limit | 17:54 |
| diddledan | at work we have 10 dedicated server units but they're pretty much full-up to the point that if one of them dies we have to do a lot of juggling to fine-tune where each vm goes | 17:54 |
| neuro | right, i'm off to try to explain to my mother why I gave myself a buzzcut this morning | 17:57 |
| neuro | i basically look like this now: http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTQ4MjQ3NDYyMF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNTI2ODU3._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg | 17:57 |
| diddledan | oh dear | 17:58 |
| neuro | last rebellious thing i'll do in my thirties most likely | 17:58 |
| diddledan | :-o | 17:58 |
| diddledan | noooooooooo | 17:58 |
| neuro | then i'll turn 40 on sunday and regret the hell out of doing it by monday | 17:58 |
| diddledan | lol | 17:58 |
| neuro | luckily i have a healthy supply of new era MLB caps | 17:58 |
| neuro | SF Giants 2010 World Series commemorative today | 17:59 |
| neuro | which is nice | 17:59 |
| celesteh | hello, I set the wrong parameters for my display card, so now the screen is black when I start up. I've gotten it to boot into recovery mode. What do I do now to solve the problem? | 18:45 |
| daftykins | what steps did you take to set these 'parameters' ? | 18:46 |
| daftykins | edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? | 18:46 |
| MartijnVdS | or move it aside | 18:46 |
| MartijnVdS | that's usually the easiest fix | 18:46 |
| celesteh | I used the system settings application | 18:46 |
| celesteh | It looked *fine* and then when i accepted the parameters, it was suddenly not fine | 18:47 |
| daftykins | so... picking resolution? | 18:47 |
| davmor2 | celesteh: what graphics card do you have | 18:47 |
| celesteh | sandybridge | 18:47 |
| davmor2 | celesteh: on a laptop or desktop? | 18:48 |
| celesteh | laptop | 18:48 |
| davmor2 | celesteh: try turning the brightness up | 18:48 |
| celesteh | if that turns out to be the problem, i'm going to be releived and feel stupid all at once. I have to reboot to test this. | 18:50 |
| davmor2 | celesteh: sometimes for some reason the brightness is dropped to 0 so as soon as the system take over. | 18:50 |
| celesteh | ok, will check it out. back in a few minutes. thanks for your help | 18:51 |
| Blueeyez | hi | 18:53 |
| MooDoo | evening all | 18:53 |
| Blueeyez | Is ubuntu-uk.org down or? | 18:53 |
| MooDoo | seems to be for me | 18:53 |
| Blueeyez | but ubuntu-uk is still active? | 18:54 |
| MooDoo | it's pingable | 18:54 |
| Blueeyez | ill check on it later :-) Doing an update on a danish ubuntu site :) | 18:55 |
| MooDoo | :D | 18:55 |
| popey | yeah, the server is a bit ill | 18:56 |
| celesteh | ok, the problem with my monitor being dark is not brightness. It's just got the wrong settings. | 18:56 |
| celesteh | How can I reset it to the default from recovery mode? | 18:56 |
| daftykins | celesteh: was it the resolution you were changing within system settings? or installing a driver? | 18:57 |
| celesteh | I was plugging in an external display and trying to set it to mirror the main display. I was in a hurry, so I probably pressed the wrong thing in regards to refresh or resolution. I was not installing a driver. | 18:59 |
| celesteh | The screen is black outside of recovery mode whether to external screen is plugged in or not.... | 19:00 |
| celesteh | s/to/the | 19:00 |
| daftykins | at the recovery prompt can you check if you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? | 19:00 |
| daftykins | i have a sneaking feeling the desktop settings stuff may be separate 0o | 19:01 |
| celesteh | ls: cannot access /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory | 19:01 |
| daftykins | ok - sounds like it is then | 19:01 |
| popey | Blueeyez: site is back | 19:01 |
| celesteh | if i boot into recovery mode, the graphics work (but are slightly off) if i carry on botting from there | 19:01 |
| celesteh | is this suggestions something that might work or would it cause problems to test it? apt-get install nvidia-current --reinstall | 19:03 |
| daftykins | depends if earlier when you said you were changing mirror mode, you were doing so in nvidia-settings rather than system settings | 19:04 |
| daftykins | which is it? :) | 19:04 |
| celesteh | system settings. is there a way to restore that to default? | 19:04 |
| daftykins | so http://i.stack.imgur.com/XN5c1.png ? | 19:05 |
| celesteh | yep, but in xfce | 19:05 |
| celesteh | right now, my system is set to skip the login screen and boot to a particular suer account. if i turn that off and boot to a loging prompt instead, will it still pick up the wrong settings if I loging as someone else? | 19:06 |
| celesteh | s/suer/user | 19:06 |
| daftykins | is there a ~/.config/monitors.xml ? | 19:07 |
| celesteh | s/loging/login | 19:07 |
| celesteh | there is for my main account, but not for the account that was logged in when i caused the problem | 19:09 |
| celesteh | i've got to go away and grab a sandwich. i bet i wouldn't have buggered this if i'd had lunch... :( | 19:10 |
| ali1234 | xfce does not use monitors.xml | 19:15 |
| ali1234 | reset xfce monitor settings to default using this command: | 19:18 |
| ali1234 | xfconf-query -c displays -r -R -p / | 19:18 |
| celesteh | Thank you! I will give that a go! | 19:20 |
| ali1234 | also the monitors tool in xfce is a bit buggy if you have multiple outputs | 19:21 |
| ali1234 | https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10717 | 19:22 |
| lubotu3 | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 10717 in Display Settings "Display settings mixes up monitor EDID names" [Normal,New] | 19:22 |
| celesteh | ah, so if i configure it in gnome, will it stick around after a reboot? | 19:22 |
| ali1234 | only in gnome | 19:22 |
| celesteh | ok, so right now i'm in my main account, in recovery mode running gnome. if I put that line into the startup items and reboot into my xfce user, would that possibly fix it? | 19:24 |
| celesteh | not the mirroring displays part, but the screen being black part | 19:24 |
| daftykins | 'main account' - you need to run it as the conflicted user | 19:25 |
| celesteh | ok | 19:27 |
| celesteh | ok, rebooting. brb thanks very much for your help. | 19:27 |
| celesteh | Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you!! | 19:35 |
| celesteh | daftykins, lubotu3, and ali1234, you folks are awesome and have saved my bacon. I cannot thank you enough. | 19:37 |
| daftykins | it was aaaaall ali | 19:53 |
| smittix | o/ | 21:10 |
| neuro | doo de doo de doo | 21:11 |
| neuro | well, my mum didn't kill me | 21:11 |
| neuro | "it's your head, you can do what you like to it", she said, stifling a giggle I'm sure | 21:12 |
| smittix | What did you do? | 21:12 |
| neuro | no 1 cut all over | 21:12 |
| neuro | i look like Van Zan out of Reign of Fire now | 21:12 |
| neuro | http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTQ4MjQ3NDYyMF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNTI2ODU3._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg | 21:12 |
| smittix | Your talking to a guy with who has a hair cut with a razor. | 21:13 |
| smittix | Welcome to the club heh | 21:14 |
| neuro | i used a pair of clippers | 21:14 |
| neuro | i'm pretty sure i'll never do it again | 21:14 |
| smittix | ha | 21:14 |
| neuro | last rebellious act of my thirties etc etc etc | 21:14 |
| neuro | my head is cold | 21:14 |
| smittix | I've had a shaved head since I was 18 | 21:14 |
| smittix | You get used to the cold. | 21:14 |
| neuro | well i'm not bald shaved | 21:15 |
| smittix | I can remember it feeling strange though. I used to have a #1 all over. | 21:15 |
| neuro | luckily i wear caps a lot | 21:15 |
| smittix | I still say caps are to blame for my hair thinning so early. | 21:15 |
| neuro | my latest purchases: | 21:15 |
| neuro | http://www.neweracap.co.uk/established-champ-classic-san-francisco-giants-39thirty-prod10917769/ | 21:15 |
| neuro | http://www.neweracap.co.uk/basic-san-francisco-giants-9forty-prod10917824/ | 21:16 |
| smittix | I like the red one. | 21:17 |
| neuro | looks cracking in real life | 21:17 |
| smittix | The only cap I own now is a Fedora baseball cap. lol | 21:18 |
| neuro | caps don't seem to thin my hair | 21:20 |
| neuro | what does is having long hair | 21:20 |
| neuro | tried that in my early 20s, trying to be a grunge type | 21:21 |
| neuro | found out i was getting a bald spot | 21:21 |
| neuro | EMERGENCY SHORT BACK AND SIDES, STAT! | 21:21 |
| smittix | haha | 21:22 |
| smittix | Bah, battery is going down too quick on this laptop | 21:23 |
| neuro | POWAAAAAH | 21:23 |
| smittix | I'm sure it's the bloody Nvidia optimus | 21:24 |
| smittix | It's gone down 7% in 10 minutes. | 21:24 |
| bigcalm | smittix: only use nvidia when you want POWER. intel is a nice battery saver | 21:51 |
| daftykins | hrmm, i can't 'passwd username' to change a user's pass in a trusty VM | 21:53 |
| daftykins | am i being stupid? (hint: highly likely) | 21:53 |
| daftykins | i enter a new pass then get "passwd: Authentication token manipulation error" | 21:54 |
| daftykins | haha, read only filesystem *slaps forehead* | 21:57 |
| daftykins | idiot. | 21:57 |
| * daftykins dons the dunce cap | 21:58 | |
| neuro | oopsies | 21:58 |
| daftykins | neuro: are you really nearly 40? | 21:59 |
| daftykins | :> | 21:59 |
| neuro | on sunday | 22:00 |
| neuro | thanks man | 22:00 |
| neuro | the reminders just keep on comin :) | 22:00 |
| daftykins | <3 | 22:00 |
| daftykins | i turned 29 last month :< | 22:00 |
| shauno | turning 30 was horrible. I can't imagine reaching 40 | 22:02 |
| neuro | it's no big deal really | 22:02 |
| daftykins | hehe | 22:02 |
| neuro | when you get to this age it's like, meh, it's a number | 22:02 |
| neuro | turning 20 was like woooooo awesome | 22:02 |
| neuro | turning 30 was like hmmm getting older, but being in your thirties is cooool man | 22:02 |
| daftykins | how :( | 22:03 |
| neuro | turning 40 is like ... crap, really should get that pension sorted out, have i cleared out the garage today, where did i put those bin bags, aw man, my mortgage is going up by £1.50 a month, why are merrill lynch sending me a cheque, where did i put that bottle of water to put in the bedroom, oh good, i put that reminder in my calendar to get the tyres done on the car ... | 22:04 |
| shauno | exactly. you're a grown-up now! muaha | 22:04 |
| neuro | daftykins: you're too young to remember thirtysomething on the tv | 22:05 |
| neuro | shauno: those are all genuine things that have run through my head this week | 22:05 |
| daftykins | lol | 22:05 |
| daftykins | they sound more like life than a given age | 22:05 |
| neuro | buzzcutting my hair is my last rebel yell | 22:05 |
| neuro | after sunday it's indicative of mid life crisis | 22:06 |
| shauno | 20 was pretty meh for me. I was living in the states at the time, so they'd decided I was no longer old enough to drink | 22:06 |
| smittix | bigcalm: I'm happy with the Intel, I'm just not sure whether its working properly. I have installed bumblebee | 22:06 |
| neuro | shauno: ha ha fail | 22:06 |
| daftykins | mine: did i feed the cat? hmm do i get a new chain for the bike... why do kids today have such massive hair? | 22:06 |
| neuro | "kids today" | 22:06 |
| neuro | *that* is the danger zone | 22:06 |
| daftykins | ;D | 22:06 |
| daftykins | danger zooooone | 22:06 |
| neuro | WHY ARE WE NOT DOING PHRASING?! | 22:07 |
| neuro | you said danger zooooone | 22:07 |
| neuro | i made an archer joke | 22:07 |
| neuro | sorry | 22:07 |
| daftykins | :) i was thinking along the same lines | 22:09 |
| daftykins | i nearly said 'just the tip' | 22:09 |
| neuro | lol | 22:09 |
| daftykins | but of course we're family friendly | 22:09 |
| neuro | Lana. | 22:09 |
| neuro | Lana! | 22:09 |
| neuro | LANA! | 22:09 |
| neuro | LAANNAAAAAAAAAAA! | 22:09 |
| neuro | WHAT?!? | 22:09 |
| neuro | ... danger zooone. | 22:09 |
| daftykins | 8) | 22:10 |
| neuro | oh actually | 22:10 |
| neuro | http://youtu.be/k3-zaTr6OUo?t=35s | 22:10 |
| neuro | hehe | 22:10 |
| daftykins | i've been thoroughly disappointed by Archer Vice | 22:10 |
| neuro | seriously? | 22:10 |
| neuro | i'm loving it | 22:10 |
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