| Spekko | Maaz: Coffee on | 05:48 |
|---|---|---|
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 05:48 | |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Spekko! | 05:52 |
| Squirm | morning | 06:09 |
| Trixar_za | Morning Squirm | 06:21 |
| Trixar_za | Anybody know Peppermint? :P | 06:21 |
| Squirm | hey Trixar_za | 06:21 |
| Squirm | Trixar_za: you could probably by something Peppermint flavoured in the shop | 06:22 |
| Squirm | they should be open by now | 06:22 |
| Trixar_za | lol | 06:22 |
| Trixar_za | I meant the Linux distribution - it's somewhat based on Mint, but smaller | 06:22 |
| Trixar_za | hence the name | 06:22 |
| Trixar_za | My bad, it's based on Lubuntu :P | 06:26 |
| Trixar_za | Peppermint OS was initially conceived at the Black Rose Pub in Hendersonville, NC (North Carolina), USA during a night of drinking and discussion about the future of desktop Linux. Peppermint was originally designed to be a social media-centric distribution. | 06:27 |
| Trixar_za | I think that's a sign I should drink with other Linux users | 06:27 |
| Kilos | hi superfly jabberwocky93 Spekko and others | 06:57 |
| superfly | morning Kilos | 06:58 |
| jabberwocky93 | goodmorning Kilos :) | 07:00 |
| Spekko | Morning Kilos | 07:01 |
| Kilos | hi bduk1 waar is mazal? | 07:22 |
| bduk1 | More almal. Ek sal hom vra Kilos | 07:23 |
| bduk1 | Hy se hy is terug by een of ander windowzzzz chat room | 07:24 |
| Kilos | eish | 07:25 |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 07:25 |
| mazal | Hallo oom | 07:25 |
| Kilos | jy stout ne | 07:25 |
| mazal | Hoe so ? | 07:25 |
| Kilos | wel ons moet jou herinner om hiernatoe te kom | 07:26 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 | 07:26 |
| mazal | So bietjie besing daar in die dark side oom :P | 07:26 |
| Kilos | ya op windows chat kamers | 07:27 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 07:27 |
| mazal | hehehehe | 07:27 |
| Kilos | verraierer | 07:27 |
| mazal | Baie oom van voor af te leer | 07:27 |
| Vince-0 | Hi Kilos | 07:27 |
| mazal | Werk nou 2 OS'e , moes maar. Het geen keuse nie | 07:28 |
| bduk1 | Dit gebeur as win lekkerder en meer games het as linux | 07:29 |
| Kilos | ai! | 07:33 |
| mazal | En PS3 era tot 'n einde kom | 07:34 |
| Kilos | haha | 07:39 |
| mazal | Sal dalk oorgaan SteamOS toe wanneer dit uitkom , sal eers moet sien hoe goed dit is | 07:40 |
| Kilos | wat van steam op ubuntu | 07:40 |
| Kilos | neelsie doen dit | 07:40 |
| mazal | Linux het nie goeie games nie | 07:41 |
| Kilos | is daar nog nie genoeg op steam nie | 07:41 |
| mazal | Steam loop sharp , maar die games keuse is baie klein. Al die major goete soek windows | 07:41 |
| Kilos | hi Golynx | 07:41 |
| Golynx | hi Kilos | 07:41 |
| inetpro | good morning | 08:01 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you should talk to @alanknottcraig on twitter | 08:02 |
| inetpro | he has the money to give you free wifi | 08:02 |
| Golynx | hi inetpro | 08:02 |
| Golynx | @alanknottcraig is still recovering from a stroke | 08:02 |
| Golynx | but hope to soon give new life to cell c | 08:03 |
| inetpro | Golynx: no this is junior | 08:03 |
| inetpro | see: https://twitter.com/alanknottcraig/status/448751205330976768 | 08:03 |
| inetpro | the mxit guy | 08:04 |
| Golynx | inetpro: you talking about the free wifi for like 250MB limit a day | 08:04 |
| Golynx | yeah him | 08:04 |
| Golynx | great idea, we all need free internet in some places | 08:05 |
| Golynx | if only my wifi can reach that far lol | 08:05 |
| Kilos | hmm... sorry was letting sheep out | 08:12 |
| Golynx | yeah Kilos can get the free wifi, its more setup there | 08:12 |
| Golynx | in Pretoria i mean | 08:12 |
| Kilos | will check it out inetpro ty | 08:13 |
| Kilos | inetpro how is he going to setup wifi here? | 08:14 |
| Golynx | me and charl were talking about it last week i think | 08:15 |
| Kilos | charl and i | 08:15 |
| Golynx | so what is the verskil van die difference lol | 08:18 |
| Golynx | hmm seems i'm becoming an annoying pain in the side here | 08:22 |
| Golynx | okay i'll better shut up. | 08:28 |
| Kilos | its the right way to say him and i\ | 08:28 |
| Kilos | correct english | 08:28 |
| Kilos | no man Golynx im just helping you | 08:28 |
| Kilos | normally the fly does it but he seems over busy | 08:29 |
| Golynx | hmm, why is correct grammer so important in a non business kind of environment | 08:30 |
| Golynx | i expect such things in places that you absolutely have to use it | 08:31 |
| Golynx | not in a free irc environment | 08:32 |
| Golynx | Speaking about grammer. I don't see many using caps when they start a sentence here. :-| | 08:40 |
| Golynx | So Kilos, can you make this strict grammer issue a topic for the next meeting please. thanks. | 08:42 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:42 |
| Kilos | ok ill leave you to do your bit | 08:43 |
| Kilos | nope irc is normally without caps | 08:44 |
| Kilos | look at the long time users no caps in nicks even | 08:45 |
| Golynx | and irc is normally not so grammatically dictative either | 08:45 |
| Kilos | im sorry for trying to help | 08:45 |
| Golynx | its not your fault Kilos. Maybe the fly forget to take off his work glasses sometimes. | 08:46 |
| Kilos | its just some peeps are afrikaans or other nationalities and it became habit to help them | 08:47 |
| Kilos | you will see even the pro gets helped now and again | 08:48 |
| Kilos | they gave up on me | 08:48 |
| Golynx | certainly yes, but to be so politically extreme in how a sentence must be structured is really wrong in my view. | 08:50 |
| inetpro | Uh! Is it Friday yet? | 08:50 |
| Golynx | aslong as others can make sense of it , it should be allowed and not lead to a kick or ban | 08:50 |
| inetpro | Het julle geen werk om te doen nie? | 08:50 |
| Kilos | hehe | 08:51 |
| Kilos | thursday inetpro only today to get through | 08:51 |
| Kilos | Golynx you like arguing hey! are you a scorpio | 08:52 |
| mazal | inetpro, I wish | 08:53 |
| Kilos | inetpro did you look at the seed place | 08:53 |
| Kilos | interesting about the gm foods | 08:54 |
| * inetpro is too broke, can't even pay attention | 08:54 | |
| Golynx | Kilos nope, i am a Gemini. | 08:54 |
| Kilos | hi Trixar | 08:55 |
| Trixar | Hey Kilos | 08:55 |
| Trixar | Talking from Peppermint now | 08:56 |
| Kilos | lol you becoming a distro hopper like neelsie | 09:03 |
| Golynx | Hello Trixar | 09:03 |
| Trixar | Hey Golynx | 09:04 |
| Trixar | Btw | 09:04 |
| Trixar | You GOT to play First-Person Tetris | 09:04 |
| Trixar | :P | 09:04 |
| Trixar | http://www.firstpersontetris.com/ | 09:05 |
| Trixar | It's actually a 'web app' that comes with Peppermint - it has a program called ICE which makes creating them very easy | 09:05 |
| Golynx | I played this before but on another platform. Its similar to Breakout 3D. | 09:07 |
| Golynx | I dont like flash games though. The same can be done with HTML5 | 09:08 |
| mazal | Just tried it Trixar , now my head is spinning worse :P | 09:08 |
| Golynx | but its cool :) | 09:08 |
| Trixar | It's not what you think - the screen shifts around when you turn the block | 09:10 |
| Trixar | Which makes it way harder | 09:10 |
| Golynx | lol, thats awesome | 09:12 |
| Trixar | And I think I found what I was looking for. This just works. | 09:13 |
| Trixar | Looks good too :P | 09:18 |
| Kilos | hi Xethron | 09:19 |
| Trixar | I have to say - I'm liking this | 09:30 |
| Kilos | wbb | 10:38 |
| jabberwocky93 | first person tetris is one strange way of playing, I keep tilting my head | 11:14 |
| Rynomster | http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ZA/windows/which-operating-system | 11:53 |
| Rynomster | rofl, running ubuntu, but that site reckons im running windoze 8.1 | 11:53 |
| superfly | Rynomster: yeah, me too | 12:10 |
| charl_ | good evening | 17:38 |
| charl_ | Maaz: coffee on | 17:39 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 17:39 | |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl_! | 17:43 |
| charl_ | Maaz: thanks | 17:43 |
| Maaz | charl_: No problem | 17:43 |
| Kilos | evening everyone | 18:01 |
| Kilos | nuvolari: ping | 18:05 |
| charl_ | hi Kilos | 18:08 |
| Kilos | hi charl_ Golynx | 18:12 |
| charl_ | hi Golynx | 18:13 |
| Golynx | hi Kilos | 18:13 |
| Golynx | hi charl | 18:13 |
| kbmonkey | evening all 0/ | 18:16 |
| charl_ | hi kbmonkey | 18:17 |
| kbmonkey | hello charl_ | 18:17 |
| kbmonkey | hello Kilos | 18:17 |
| kbmonkey | hello Golynx | 18:17 |
| Golynx | I dont understand the real perpose of this credit card sized computer :-/ http://raspberrypi.org | 18:18 |
| Golynx | hi kbmonkey | 18:18 |
| Kilos | hi kbmonkey | 18:18 |
| charl_ | how's it going with you all | 18:18 |
| charl_ | Golynx: it's a template for embedded devices | 18:19 |
| Kilos | im ok ty | 18:19 |
| kbmonkey | fine fine | 18:19 |
| charl_ | Golynx: use it for xbmc, for narrowcasting (digital signage), etc | 18:19 |
| charl_ | built-in HDMI | 18:19 |
| charl_ | mount it at the back of the screen | 18:20 |
| charl_ | use it for customised security systems.... etc etc | 18:20 |
| charl_ | to name a few possible applications | 18:20 |
| Kilos | have you all gotlinux user numbers | 18:20 |
| Golynx | charl: i mean the hardware is like pentium 2 speed | 18:20 |
| Golynx | i've seen people do some crazy stuff with that thing | 18:21 |
| Golynx | yeah charl as you mentioned aswell | 18:21 |
| Golynx | a guy from london connected 64 of them and made a super computer lol | 18:21 |
| Golynx | i would make a robot that do housework with that :p | 18:24 |
| Golynx | Kilos, what do you mean | 18:25 |
| kbmonkey | the Beowulf cluster? *drools* | 18:27 |
| kbmonkey | Kilos, I think I have | 18:27 |
| Kilos | Golynx lemme see if i can find the link | 18:27 |
| Kilos | i read they have changed something there | 18:27 |
| Kilos | Maaz google where to register as a linux user | 18:28 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "LinuxQuestions.org" http://www.linuxquestions.org/ :: "LinuxQuestions.org - where Linux users come for help" http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ :: "[SOLVED] Not in the sudoers file. Incident reported...where? (Page ..." https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1396503 :: "Register - Linux Certifications Overview | Linux Professional Institute ..." | 18:28 |
| Maaz | https://cs.lpi.org/caf/Xamman/register :: "Linux - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http… | 18:28 |
| Kilos | ai! | 18:28 |
| Kilos | inetpro help | 18:28 |
| kbmonkey | no Maaz you suck at googling | 18:28 |
| kbmonkey | linuxcounter.net | 18:29 |
| Kilos | im 510724 | 18:29 |
| Kilos | ya ty kbmonkey | 18:29 |
| Kilos | i forgot what it was called | 18:29 |
| Kilos | i dunno where all the peeps are. im sure canonical sent out over 1 mill cds | 18:32 |
| kbmonkey | http://linuxcounter.net/user/549038.html | 18:32 |
| kbmonkey | there's mine | 18:33 |
| Kilos | Golynx register there so we can see how far the counter has got | 18:34 |
| Kilos | i have 2 because i lost one so registered again | 18:35 |
| Kilos | 533697 | 18:35 |
| kbmonkey | Kilos, xD | 18:35 |
| Kilos | i lose lots when drives crash | 18:36 |
| Kilos | like today | 18:36 |
| Kilos | when i went 64bit i removed xp on the first 20g of this 500g | 18:36 |
| kbmonkey | 121261 users | 18:36 |
| Kilos | i remember now why the xp was there | 18:36 |
| kbmonkey | and why was that? | 18:37 |
| Kilos | no man thats less than when we registered | 18:37 |
| kbmonkey | that is on the front page | 18:37 |
| Kilos | to use up the beginning of the drive that has some probs | 18:37 |
| kbmonkey | LOL | 18:38 |
| Kilos | you havent missed one number? | 18:38 |
| kbmonkey | using xp as a digital doorstop! | 18:38 |
| Kilos | lol ya | 18:38 |
| kbmonkey | ai Kilos you don't have any machines registered on linuxcounter | 18:39 |
| Kilos | oh my | 18:40 |
| Kilos | where i got the numbers then | 18:40 |
| Kilos | ok was on old pcs | 18:41 |
| kbmonkey | ah | 18:42 |
| Kilos | so have they lost all the old peeps | 18:45 |
| charl_ | Golynx: it has a gpu though | 18:45 |
| charl_ | Golynx: so it can handle 1080p fine | 18:45 |
| Kilos | charl whats you number | 18:45 |
| charl_ | numbers? | 18:46 |
| charl_ | sorry but i don't just give my phone number out on irc ... | 18:46 |
| kbmonkey | lol | 18:46 |
| charl_ | i'm not a privacy freak but that's going a little far | 18:46 |
| kbmonkey | charl_, Kilos meant your linuxcounter.net number (if you have one) | 18:46 |
| charl_ | what is that, i don't even know what it is | 18:46 |
| Kilos | ya | 18:46 |
| charl_ | lemme check it out | 18:46 |
| kbmonkey | it's just a registry of linux users | 18:46 |
| Kilos | ai! | 18:46 |
| charl_ | what's the point ? | 18:47 |
| charl_ | ooh yuck a scrolling news ticker thing at the top | 18:47 |
| charl_ | i thought that starved in the 90s | 18:47 |
| kbmonkey | we like to be categorized, catalogued and labelled | 18:47 |
| charl_ | you go join the new world order then :) | 18:47 |
| charl_ | (just kidding) | 18:47 |
| * kbmonkey replaces tongue in cheek with a banana | 18:48 | |
| charl_ | take a film of it and upload it on a porn site :) | 18:48 |
| Golynx | charl_ : okay cool , yeah its awesome | 18:49 |
| Golynx | Kilos , i regiatered 566548 | 18:49 |
| Golynx | registered* | 18:49 |
| kbmonkey | I dunno, it's old 90's feel is nostaligic and charming, if a bit ugly | 18:50 |
| kbmonkey | nostalgic* | 18:50 |
| Kilos | kbmonkey it tells me i have 1 machine registered | 18:51 |
| kbmonkey | maybe it is set to not show publicly | 18:51 |
| Kilos | they have rebuilt it or something charl_ | 18:52 |
| Kilos | oh my more settings | 18:52 |
| Kilos | kbmonkey it tells me there are over 70mill | 18:53 |
| Kilos | you gotta login to see more i think | 18:54 |
| kbmonkey | yes, estimated, not neccesarily registered there | 18:54 |
| Kilos | oh didnt look so good | 18:54 |
| Golynx | what is the point of linuxcounter.net , other then to log linux machines | 18:56 |
| kbmonkey | that is the point Golynx. the site says it started "for fun" | 18:58 |
| Golynx | kbmonkey: oh okay | 18:59 |
| kbmonkey | when it started there was nothing like social networks of today | 18:59 |
| Golynx | i thought it would automatically detect the linux machine :-/ | 19:00 |
| Kilos | what is the architecture of a pc or cpu? | 19:00 |
| kbmonkey | so other than mailing lists and irc people had min idea of number of users | 19:00 |
| Golynx | ah , so that was back in the MS_DOS days | 19:01 |
| kbmonkey | 32/64-bit | 19:01 |
| kbmonkey | dos days? hah, not that far back! | 19:01 |
| Kilos | oh ty | 19:01 |
| Golynx | lol jk :p | 19:01 |
| kbmonkey | *woosh* xD | 19:02 |
| Kilos | ok and what is the hostname of this machine | 19:03 |
| Kilos | linux has been going a long time | 19:03 |
| Kilos | unix it wa | 19:03 |
| Kilos | was | 19:03 |
| Kilos | only for servers and hackers back then i think | 19:04 |
| kbmonkey | `hostname` | 19:08 |
| kbmonkey | the linux kernel was written in 1992 | 19:09 |
| kbmonkey | if I recall correctly... | 19:09 |
| Kilos | and unix? | 19:09 |
| kbmonkey | unix in the 80's | 19:09 |
| Kilos | and dos | 19:09 |
| kbmonkey | but unix was proprietary and closed source, for big institutions mostly and mainframes | 19:09 |
| Kilos | now i done my bit for the counter. 2 machines registered | 19:12 |
| Kilos | golynx save that number inna safe place | 19:13 |
| kbmonkey | :) | 19:13 |
| Kilos | maybe one day you will be classed as one of the old timers with that number | 19:13 |
| kbmonkey | haha | 19:13 |
| Golynx | Kilos lol , just like 466664 XD | 19:15 |
| Kilos | eish | 19:16 |
| Golynx | but the actual machine will be long gone by then | 19:16 |
| Kilos | yeah i hope this one too | 19:17 |
| Kilos | actually no, just different cpu | 19:17 |
| Golynx | and Linux, would've taken over the world and space travel :) | 19:17 |
| Kilos | i actually wonder if they use ms software on space vehicles | 19:18 |
| kbmonkey | hahaha ha ha. hah. no. | 19:18 |
| Kilos | very brave if they do | 19:18 |
| kbmonkey | they actually use a custo linux kernel, and they also use python :) | 19:18 |
| Kilos | cool | 19:18 |
| Kilos | and nasa? | 19:19 |
| kbmonkey | but the onboard microcontrollers are programmer with a custom assembly language | 19:19 |
| Kilos | they must be win peeps | 19:19 |
| Golynx | kbmonkey: thats true | 19:21 |
| kbmonkey | not sure about their mission control or non mission-critical pc's | 19:23 |
| Golynx | space got so much high intensity radiation that can kill a microchip. Its amazing those machines are still running on Mars and other places | 19:23 |
| kbmonkey | I read about them long long ago, I forgot most of it. was very interesting | 19:23 |
| Kilos | night guys. sleep tight | 19:27 |
| Kilos | night superfly inetpro | 19:27 |
| Kilos | hehe | 19:27 |
| inetpro | goeie nag oom | 19:27 |
| Golynx | night Kilos | 19:27 |
| superfly | night ki<tab> | 19:27 |
| inetpro | skelm! | 19:28 |
| kbmonkey | hehe | 19:29 |
| Golynx | superfly is webapp2 better than flask, since i'm going to use app engine for my app's backend | 19:29 |
| superfly | WebApp2 is a pain in the butt | 19:29 |
| superfly | we use App Engine at work, and I cry almost every time I have to use WebApp2 | 19:30 |
| Golynx | ah , i tough so thanks | 19:30 |
| Golynx | thought* | 19:30 |
| superfly | so much boilerplate, so much overhead | 19:30 |
| superfly | even Pyramid's kitchen sink is not as bad | 19:30 |
| Golynx | lol | 19:30 |
| Golynx | its strange , App Engine started with python, but WebApp2 sucks so much | 19:32 |
| superfly | Golynx: If you think WebApp2 sucks, don't try Java... | 19:34 |
| charl_ | i haven't done any app engine development in years, but what's the deal with webapp2? | 19:35 |
| Golynx | hahaha, since i read some of the first reviews for Java on App Engine i never even thought of making an app for it lol | 19:36 |
| Golynx | Java on App Engine sucked from the start and is the worst of them | 19:37 |
| Golynx | charl_ : i wanted to make a python web app with WebApp2 , but i'm getting bad vibes from all over about it | 19:38 |
| kbmonkey | loving Python, but only done local stuff with it, no web based apps. | 19:39 |
| kbmonkey | mostly with pygame, the SDL wrapper for games | 19:39 |
| Golynx | kbmonkey: i started python with pygames too lol | 19:40 |
| Golynx | from this site http://inventwithpython.com | 19:41 |
| kbmonkey | cool, have any of them around still Golynx ? | 19:41 |
| kbmonkey | I try enter in game compos as practice | 19:41 |
| kbmonkey | that is a good site that | 19:41 |
| Golynx | yeah, i started with the first pdf book tutorial and moved on to the second one. The third one is about encryption and stuff, but i'm not into that | 19:43 |
| Golynx | i got 3 still, i had 26 games i made when i was on windows, but the move to linux i lost most of my data | 19:45 |
| kbmonkey | oh no :( | 19:45 |
| kbmonkey | that is a pity | 19:45 |
| Golynx | yeah its sad :( | 19:45 |
| kbmonkey | I have an ongoing rpg roguelike game. | 19:45 |
| Golynx | i cant seem to get pygame working with python 3+ in ubuntu | 19:46 |
| Golynx | it only works with python 2.7 | 19:46 |
| kbmonkey | yes, pygame for 3 is not official yet | 19:46 |
| Golynx | oh okay | 19:47 |
| Golynx | nice, RPG games are awesome | 19:47 |
| kbmonkey | http://keyboardmonkey.co.za/alive/ | 19:47 |
| kbmonkey | maybe once the engine is done I will commission some artwork. | 19:48 |
| kbmonkey | my pixel art is atrocious :p | 19:48 |
| Golynx | thats cool, i like the old arcade style :) | 19:52 |
| kbmonkey | ta :) | 19:54 |
| superfly | kbmonkey: now that I've been scanned, what do I do? | 20:12 |
| kbmonkey | superfly, I need to make more levels! whoops. | 20:14 |
| superfly | ah :-D | 20:14 |
| kbmonkey | also, I think the game starts at level 6, and not level 1 ;P | 20:14 |
| kbmonkey | that was my bad on that commit | 20:15 |
| Golynx | kbmonkey: can i pull the game from github, and play around with it a bit :) | 20:15 |
| kbmonkey | go for it Golynx ! | 20:16 |
| kbmonkey | oh no it does start from level 1, but there is only 7 levels so far | 20:17 |
| Golynx | kbmonkey: thanks :) | 20:18 |
| Golynx | kbmonkey: the game has alot of code though. It could be more efficient. But i'm sure you will smooth out the rough edges. Great game concept though :) | 20:43 |
| kbmonkey | thanks Golynx. it does have a lot doesn't it, heh. | 20:45 |
| kbmonkey | I used a mvc model there, so the code grows laterally, meaning adding to it does not get harder. | 20:47 |
| kbmonkey | anyway, the first serious python project I started, no doubt I'd do some things different now. | 20:48 |
| Golynx | the mvc style is good in some cases | 20:50 |
| Golynx | yeah , once you get the project to near completion, its easier to see where the improvements can be made | 20:53 |
| Golynx | your on the right track, so the game will turn out great | 20:56 |
| Golynx | good night all o/ | 20:57 |
| kbmonkey | gn Golynx | 20:57 |
| kbmonkey | thanks | 20:57 |
| Golynx | yw | 20:57 |
| kbmonkey | also think it is bed time -.- | 20:57 |
| charl_ | good night all | 21:22 |
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