[05:48] Maaz: Coffee on [05:48] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [05:52] Coffee's ready for Spekko! [06:09] morning [06:21] Morning Squirm [06:21] Anybody know Peppermint? :P [06:21] hey Trixar_za [06:22] Trixar_za: you could probably by something Peppermint flavoured in the shop [06:22] they should be open by now [06:22] lol [06:22] I meant the Linux distribution - it's somewhat based on Mint, but smaller [06:22] hence the name [06:26] My bad, it's based on Lubuntu :P [06:27] Peppermint OS was initially conceived at the Black Rose Pub in Hendersonville, NC (North Carolina), USA during a night of drinking and discussion about the future of desktop Linux. Peppermint was originally designed to be a social media-centric distribution. [06:27] I think that's a sign I should drink with other Linux users [06:57] hi superfly jabberwocky93 Spekko and others [06:58] morning Kilos [07:00] goodmorning Kilos :) [07:01] Morning Kilos [07:22] hi bduk1 waar is mazal? [07:23] More almal. Ek sal hom vra Kilos [07:24] Hy se hy is terug by een of ander windowzzzz chat room [07:25] eish [07:25] hi mazal [07:25] Hallo oom [07:25] jy stout ne [07:25] Hoe so ? [07:26] wel ons moet jou herinner om hiernatoe te kom [07:26] hi Vince-0 [07:26] So bietjie besing daar in die dark side oom :P [07:27] ya op windows chat kamers [07:27] hmm... [07:27] hehehehe [07:27] verraierer [07:27] Baie oom van voor af te leer [07:27] Hi Kilos [07:28] Werk nou 2 OS'e , moes maar. Het geen keuse nie [07:29] Dit gebeur as win lekkerder en meer games het as linux [07:33] ai! [07:34] En PS3 era tot 'n einde kom [07:39] haha [07:40] Sal dalk oorgaan SteamOS toe wanneer dit uitkom , sal eers moet sien hoe goed dit is [07:40] wat van steam op ubuntu [07:40] neelsie doen dit [07:41] Linux het nie goeie games nie [07:41] is daar nog nie genoeg op steam nie [07:41] Steam loop sharp , maar die games keuse is baie klein. Al die major goete soek windows [07:41] hi Golynx [07:41] hi Kilos [08:01] good morning [08:02] Kilos: you should talk to @alanknottcraig on twitter [08:02] he has the money to give you free wifi [08:02] hi inetpro [08:02] @alanknottcraig is still recovering from a stroke [08:03] but hope to soon give new life to cell c [08:03] Golynx: no this is junior [08:03] see: https://twitter.com/alanknottcraig/status/448751205330976768 [08:04] the mxit guy [08:04] inetpro: you talking about the free wifi for like 250MB limit a day [08:04] yeah him [08:05] great idea, we all need free internet in some places [08:05] if only my wifi can reach that far lol [08:12] hmm... sorry was letting sheep out [08:12] yeah Kilos can get the free wifi, its more setup there [08:12] in Pretoria i mean [08:13] will check it out inetpro ty [08:14] inetpro how is he going to setup wifi here? [08:15] me and charl were talking about it last week i think [08:15] charl and i [08:18] so what is the verskil van die difference lol [08:22] hmm seems i'm becoming an annoying pain in the side here [08:28] okay i'll better shut up. [08:28] its the right way to say him and i\ [08:28] correct english [08:28] no man Golynx im just helping you [08:29] normally the fly does it but he seems over busy [08:30] hmm, why is correct grammer so important in a non business kind of environment [08:31] i expect such things in places that you absolutely have to use it [08:32] not in a free irc environment [08:40] Speaking about grammer. I don't see many using caps when they start a sentence here. :-| [08:42] So Kilos, can you make this strict grammer issue a topic for the next meeting please. thanks. [08:42] lol [08:43] ok ill leave you to do your bit [08:44] nope irc is normally without caps [08:45] look at the long time users no caps in nicks even [08:45] and irc is normally not so grammatically dictative either [08:45] im sorry for trying to help [08:46] its not your fault Kilos. Maybe the fly forget to take off his work glasses sometimes. [08:47] its just some peeps are afrikaans or other nationalities and it became habit to help them [08:48] you will see even the pro gets helped now and again [08:48] they gave up on me [08:50] certainly yes, but to be so politically extreme in how a sentence must be structured is really wrong in my view. [08:50] Uh! Is it Friday yet? [08:50] aslong as others can make sense of it , it should be allowed and not lead to a kick or ban [08:50] Het julle geen werk om te doen nie? [08:51] hehe [08:51] thursday inetpro only today to get through [08:52] Golynx you like arguing hey! are you a scorpio [08:53] inetpro, I wish [08:53] inetpro did you look at the seed place [08:54] interesting about the gm foods [08:54] * inetpro is too broke, can't even pay attention [08:54] Kilos nope, i am a Gemini. [08:55] hi Trixar [08:55] Hey Kilos [08:56] Talking from Peppermint now [09:03] lol you becoming a distro hopper like neelsie [09:03] Hello Trixar [09:04] Hey Golynx [09:04] Btw [09:04] You GOT to play First-Person Tetris [09:04] :P [09:05] http://www.firstpersontetris.com/ [09:05] It's actually a 'web app' that comes with Peppermint - it has a program called ICE which makes creating them very easy [09:07] I played this before but on another platform. Its similar to Breakout 3D. [09:08] I dont like flash games though. The same can be done with HTML5 [09:08] Just tried it Trixar , now my head is spinning worse :P [09:08] but its cool :) [09:10] It's not what you think - the screen shifts around when you turn the block [09:10] Which makes it way harder [09:12] lol, thats awesome [09:13] And I think I found what I was looking for. This just works. [09:18] Looks good too :P [09:19] hi Xethron [09:30] I have to say - I'm liking this [10:38] wbb [11:14] first person tetris is one strange way of playing, I keep tilting my head [11:53] http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ZA/windows/which-operating-system [11:53] rofl, running ubuntu, but that site reckons im running windoze 8.1 [12:10] Rynomster: yeah, me too [17:38] good evening [17:39] Maaz: coffee on [17:39] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [17:43] Coffee's ready for charl_! [17:43] Maaz: thanks [17:43] charl_: No problem [18:01] evening everyone [18:05] nuvolari: ping [18:08] hi Kilos [18:12] hi charl_ Golynx [18:13] hi Golynx [18:13] hi Kilos [18:13] hi charl [18:16] evening all 0/ [18:17] hi kbmonkey [18:17] hello charl_ [18:17] hello Kilos [18:17] hello Golynx [18:18] I dont understand the real perpose of this credit card sized computer :-/ http://raspberrypi.org [18:18] hi kbmonkey [18:18] hi kbmonkey [18:18] how's it going with you all [18:19] Golynx: it's a template for embedded devices [18:19] im ok ty [18:19] fine fine [18:19] Golynx: use it for xbmc, for narrowcasting (digital signage), etc [18:19] built-in HDMI [18:20] mount it at the back of the screen [18:20] use it for customised security systems.... etc etc [18:20] to name a few possible applications [18:20] have you all gotlinux user numbers [18:20] charl: i mean the hardware is like pentium 2 speed [18:21] i've seen people do some crazy stuff with that thing [18:21] yeah charl as you mentioned aswell [18:21] a guy from london connected 64 of them and made a super computer lol [18:24] i would make a robot that do housework with that :p [18:25] Kilos, what do you mean [18:27] the Beowulf cluster? *drools* [18:27] Kilos, I think I have [18:27] Golynx lemme see if i can find the link [18:27] i read they have changed something there [18:28] Maaz google where to register as a linux user [18:28] Kilos: "LinuxQuestions.org" http://www.linuxquestions.org/ :: "LinuxQuestions.org - where Linux users come for help" http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ :: "[SOLVED] Not in the sudoers file. Incident reported...where? (Page ..." https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1396503 :: "Register - Linux Certifications Overview | Linux Professional Institute ..." [18:28] https://cs.lpi.org/caf/Xamman/register :: "Linux - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http… [18:28] ai! [18:28] inetpro help [18:28] no Maaz you suck at googling [18:29] linuxcounter.net [18:29] im 510724 [18:29] ya ty kbmonkey [18:29] i forgot what it was called [18:32] i dunno where all the peeps are. im sure canonical sent out over 1 mill cds [18:32] http://linuxcounter.net/user/549038.html [18:33] there's mine [18:34] Golynx register there so we can see how far the counter has got [18:35] i have 2 because i lost one so registered again [18:35] 533697 [18:35] Kilos, xD [18:36] i lose lots when drives crash [18:36] like today [18:36] when i went 64bit i removed xp on the first 20g of this 500g [18:36] 121261 users [18:36] i remember now why the xp was there [18:37] and why was that? [18:37] no man thats less than when we registered [18:37] that is on the front page [18:37] to use up the beginning of the drive that has some probs [18:38] LOL [18:38] you havent missed one number? [18:38] using xp as a digital doorstop! [18:38] lol ya [18:39] ai Kilos you don't have any machines registered on linuxcounter [18:40] oh my [18:40] where i got the numbers then [18:41] ok was on old pcs [18:42] ah [18:45] so have they lost all the old peeps [18:45] Golynx: it has a gpu though [18:45] Golynx: so it can handle 1080p fine [18:45] charl whats you number [18:46] numbers? [18:46] sorry but i don't just give my phone number out on irc ... [18:46] lol [18:46] i'm not a privacy freak but that's going a little far [18:46] charl_, Kilos meant your linuxcounter.net number (if you have one) [18:46] what is that, i don't even know what it is [18:46] ya [18:46] lemme check it out [18:46] it's just a registry of linux users [18:46] ai! [18:47] what's the point ? [18:47] ooh yuck a scrolling news ticker thing at the top [18:47] i thought that starved in the 90s [18:47] we like to be categorized, catalogued and labelled [18:47] you go join the new world order then :) [18:47] (just kidding) [18:48] * kbmonkey replaces tongue in cheek with a banana [18:48] take a film of it and upload it on a porn site :) [18:49] charl_ : okay cool , yeah its awesome [18:49] Kilos , i regiatered 566548 [18:49] registered* [18:50] I dunno, it's old 90's feel is nostaligic and charming, if a bit ugly [18:50] nostalgic* [18:51] kbmonkey it tells me i have 1 machine registered [18:51] maybe it is set to not show publicly [18:52] they have rebuilt it or something charl_ [18:52] oh my more settings [18:53] kbmonkey it tells me there are over 70mill [18:54] you gotta login to see more i think [18:54] yes, estimated, not neccesarily registered there [18:54] oh didnt look so good [18:56] what is the point of linuxcounter.net , other then to log linux machines [18:58] that is the point Golynx. the site says it started "for fun" [18:59] kbmonkey: oh okay [18:59] when it started there was nothing like social networks of today [19:00] i thought it would automatically detect the linux machine :-/ [19:00] what is the architecture of a pc or cpu? [19:00] so other than mailing lists and irc people had min idea of number of users [19:01] ah , so that was back in the MS_DOS days [19:01] 32/64-bit [19:01] dos days? hah, not that far back! [19:01] oh ty [19:01] lol jk :p [19:02] *woosh* xD [19:03] ok and what is the hostname of this machine [19:03] linux has been going a long time [19:03] unix it wa [19:03] was [19:04] only for servers and hackers back then i think [19:08] `hostname` [19:09] the linux kernel was written in 1992 [19:09] if I recall correctly... [19:09] and unix? [19:09] unix in the 80's [19:09] and dos [19:09] but unix was proprietary and closed source, for big institutions mostly and mainframes [19:12] now i done my bit for the counter. 2 machines registered [19:13] golynx save that number inna safe place [19:13] :) [19:13] maybe one day you will be classed as one of the old timers with that number [19:13] haha [19:15] Kilos lol , just like 466664 XD [19:16] eish [19:16] but the actual machine will be long gone by then [19:17] yeah i hope this one too [19:17] actually no, just different cpu [19:17] and Linux, would've taken over the world and space travel :) [19:18] i actually wonder if they use ms software on space vehicles [19:18] hahaha ha ha. hah. no. [19:18] very brave if they do [19:18] they actually use a custo linux kernel, and they also use python :) [19:18] cool [19:19] and nasa? [19:19] but the onboard microcontrollers are programmer with a custom assembly language [19:19] they must be win peeps [19:21] kbmonkey: thats true [19:23] not sure about their mission control or non mission-critical pc's [19:23] space got so much high intensity radiation that can kill a microchip. Its amazing those machines are still running on Mars and other places [19:23] I read about them long long ago, I forgot most of it. was very interesting [19:27] night guys. sleep tight [19:27] night superfly inetpro [19:27] hehe [19:27] goeie nag oom [19:27] night Kilos [19:27] night ki [19:28] skelm! [19:29] hehe [19:29] superfly is webapp2 better than flask, since i'm going to use app engine for my app's backend [19:29] WebApp2 is a pain in the butt [19:30] we use App Engine at work, and I cry almost every time I have to use WebApp2 [19:30] ah , i tough so thanks [19:30] thought* [19:30] so much boilerplate, so much overhead [19:30] even Pyramid's kitchen sink is not as bad [19:30] lol [19:32] its strange , App Engine started with python, but WebApp2 sucks so much [19:34] Golynx: If you think WebApp2 sucks, don't try Java... [19:35] i haven't done any app engine development in years, but what's the deal with webapp2? [19:36] hahaha, since i read some of the first reviews for Java on App Engine i never even thought of making an app for it lol [19:37] Java on App Engine sucked from the start and is the worst of them [19:38] charl_ : i wanted to make a python web app with WebApp2 , but i'm getting bad vibes from all over about it [19:39] loving Python, but only done local stuff with it, no web based apps. [19:39] mostly with pygame, the SDL wrapper for games [19:40] kbmonkey: i started python with pygames too lol [19:41] from this site http://inventwithpython.com [19:41] cool, have any of them around still Golynx ? [19:41] I try enter in game compos as practice [19:41] that is a good site that [19:43] yeah, i started with the first pdf book tutorial and moved on to the second one. The third one is about encryption and stuff, but i'm not into that [19:45] i got 3 still, i had 26 games i made when i was on windows, but the move to linux i lost most of my data [19:45] oh no :( [19:45] that is a pity [19:45] yeah its sad :( [19:45] I have an ongoing rpg roguelike game. [19:46] i cant seem to get pygame working with python 3+ in ubuntu [19:46] it only works with python 2.7 [19:46] yes, pygame for 3 is not official yet [19:47] oh okay [19:47] nice, RPG games are awesome [19:47] http://keyboardmonkey.co.za/alive/ [19:48] maybe once the engine is done I will commission some artwork. [19:48] my pixel art is atrocious :p [19:52] thats cool, i like the old arcade style :) [19:54] ta :) [20:12] kbmonkey: now that I've been scanned, what do I do? [20:14] superfly, I need to make more levels! whoops. [20:14] ah :-D [20:14] also, I think the game starts at level 6, and not level 1 ;P [20:15] that was my bad on that commit [20:15] kbmonkey: can i pull the game from github, and play around with it a bit :) [20:16] go for it Golynx ! [20:17] oh no it does start from level 1, but there is only 7 levels so far [20:18] kbmonkey: thanks :) [20:43] kbmonkey: the game has alot of code though. It could be more efficient. But i'm sure you will smooth out the rough edges. Great game concept though :) [20:45] thanks Golynx. it does have a lot doesn't it, heh. [20:47] I used a mvc model there, so the code grows laterally, meaning adding to it does not get harder. [20:48] anyway, the first serious python project I started, no doubt I'd do some things different now. [20:50] the mvc style is good in some cases [20:53] yeah , once you get the project to near completion, its easier to see where the improvements can be made [20:56] your on the right track, so the game will turn out great [20:57] good night all o/ [20:57] gn Golynx [20:57] thanks [20:57] yw [20:57] also think it is bed time -.- [21:22] good night all