| RFleming | Greetings! | 00:06 |
|---|---|---|
| Unit193 | Howdy. | 00:06 |
| RFleming | I've been using 14.04 b1 for a while now | 00:06 |
| RFleming | awesome stuff btw | 00:06 |
| RFleming | this past week it's gone wonky | 00:07 |
| Unit193 | Oh? | 00:07 |
| RFleming | Applications Menu icon changes | 00:07 |
| RFleming | icon themes don't apply on session start | 00:07 |
| RFleming | wallpapers have disappeared | 00:07 |
| RFleming | I logged in and had the ubuntu logo instead of the new xfce4 icon | 00:08 |
| RFleming | I change my icon settings and its fine | 00:08 |
| RFleming | the other day it was the old school xfce icon | 00:08 |
| RFleming | it's little niggly things that I have no clue how to report :) | 00:08 |
| Unit193 | Sounds like the Xfce session, plus a weird artwork update and this is a fresh install I presume | 00:09 |
| Unit193 | ? | 00:09 |
| RFleming | not fresh fresh... end of Feb | 00:09 |
| RFleming | I only have the old xfce wallpaper available now... pale blue with black X and mouse | 00:10 |
| RFleming | was looking in 'xfce', had to manually point back to /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops | 00:10 |
| Unit193 | RFleming: dkpg -L xubuntu-wallpapers | 00:10 |
| RFleming | You wish for the output? | 00:11 |
| Unit193 | Shouldn't need it, should be more or less full. | 00:11 |
| Unit193 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/RgilLzwXD1M69TGZ9272 | 00:12 |
| RFleming | shows usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/xubuntu-{saucy, quantal, raring}.png plus the docs and default xubuntu-wallpaper.png | 00:12 |
| RFleming | yeah, that's identical | 00:13 |
| RFleming | I even went so far as to reinstall artwork, wallpaper and a couple of other cosmetic packages | 00:13 |
| RFleming | I renamed my ~/.config/xfce4 folder as well and let xfce create a new one. | 00:14 |
| RFleming | right now the text for my icons has a light box with rounded borders and dark text. The moment I go into settings and change the style to Greybird (which is already selected) they change back. The next time I log in, it's back to as I described | 00:16 |
| RFleming | kinda like Adwaita is applied, but it shows Greybird | 00:18 |
| RFleming | panel colours all match Greybird | 00:18 |
| Unit193 | RFleming: Well part of that is a known bug, and you are logging into the Xubuntu session, right? | 00:47 |
| Unit193 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfdesktop4/+bug/1270261 | 00:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1270261 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "Desktop items have background" [Medium,Triaged] | 00:47 |
| RFleming | No | 00:49 |
| RFleming | I don't use sessions | 00:49 |
| Unit193 | Ah, so it is the Xfce one then. | 00:49 |
| RFleming | sorry, was in #ubuntu helping out | 00:49 |
| RFleming | call me crazy, but I like clean slates on log on :) | 00:51 |
| Unit193 | No, this is the lightdm session, top right button. | 00:51 |
| Unit193 | How you decide if you want Xfce, Xubuntu, Openbox, or whatever else is installed. | 00:52 |
| RFleming | ahh | 00:52 |
| RFleming | I don't change it | 00:52 |
| RFleming | last time I checked it was xubuntu | 00:52 |
| RFleming | Unit193, alright, I'm gonna log out and verify I'm indeed using the xubuntu session | 01:03 |
| RFleming | Unit193, yeah, am using the Xubuntu session | 01:07 |
| RFleming | So Unit193, eventually these little niggles should sort themselves out? | 02:07 |
| RFleming | I'm not caring much... it's why beta is beta, just curious :) | 02:07 |
| Unit193 | RFleming: I'm not seeing them. >_> | 02:07 |
| RFleming | I'll see later in April with the RC comes out | 02:08 |
| RFleming | is the 17th still the go day? | 02:08 |
| Unit193 | Still is. | 02:08 |
| RFleming | ooh | 02:09 |
| RFleming | looks like it got pushed | 02:10 |
| RFleming | or not | 02:10 |
| RFleming | wiki shows 24th as 14.04 final release | 02:10 |
| RFleming | but the actual release sched says 17 | 02:10 |
| RFleming | I'll keep my mouth shut now :) | 02:11 |
| Unit193 | What wiki? | 02:11 |
| RFleming | other project schedules | 02:11 |
| RFleming | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OtherProjectSchedules | 02:12 |
| Unit193 | Ah, just making sure it's not the Xubuntu wiki. | 02:12 |
| RFleming | my bad | 02:13 |
| RFleming | I should read twice before speaking | 02:13 |
| RFleming | I'm wondering if my constant use of dist-upgrade is one of the reasons my appearance has gone a little messy | 02:15 |
| Unit193 | I only ever use that. | 02:16 |
| RFleming | was just a thought :) | 02:16 |
| RFleming | how would I go about re-initializing the Xubuntu session? | 02:17 |
| Unit193 | Generally, nuke ~/.config/xfce4/ or ~/.config/ | 02:17 |
| RFleming | I could try nuking the entire .config folder | 02:18 |
| RFleming | I just nuked ~/.config/xfce4 | 02:18 |
| RFleming | ... well just rename it, just in case :) | 02:18 |
| Unit193 | Try to make sure and do it when you aren't logged in to the X session. | 02:18 |
| Unit193 | (TTY) | 02:19 |
| RFleming | I usually do. | 02:19 |
| RFleming | well, lemme give it a shot | 02:19 |
| RFleming | Unit193, http://imagebin.org/302029 | 02:25 |
| RFleming | no go | 02:25 |
| RFleming | fresh .config | 02:25 |
| RFleming | I logged out, stopped lightdm, moved ~/.config, restarted lightdm and logged in | 02:26 |
| Unit193 | Did you Already change back to applicationsmenu from whisker? | 02:26 |
| RFleming | yeah, I got rid of whisker | 02:27 |
| RFleming | but whisker is back here | 02:27 |
| Unit193 | Ah, ok, didn't look the same. | 02:27 |
| RFleming | this screencap doesn't show whisker, but that's the default menu | 02:28 |
| RFleming | Once I click off greybird and reclick it, icon text then looks like this: http://imagebin.org/302030 | 02:32 |
| Unit193 | Yeah, that's the aforementioned bug. | 02:33 |
| RFleming | alright, I can live with that then | 02:33 |
| RFleming | That bug may affect other parts as well. | 02:34 |
| RFleming | examples. The Whisker Menu properties show the icon you see in those screencaps | 02:35 |
| RFleming | but sometimes on log on, the actual icon will be the old X Mouse, or the orange ubuntu logo | 02:35 |
| RFleming | clicking on the icon in whisker menu properties, and then OK, the panel will then show the right icon | 02:36 |
| RFleming | and I have no clue why the xfce4 is no longer looking in /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops for wallpaper any longer | 02:37 |
| RFleming | those three cosmetic things have been my ONLY issues with 14.04 | 02:37 |
| RFleming | (it looks for wallpapers in /usr/share/backgrounds/xfce) | 02:38 |
| RFleming | Unit193, curious question. If I wanted to file a bug, what version would I say I'm running? I installed beta1, but ran dist-upgrade as of 10 minutes ago | 03:01 |
| Unit193 | Xubuntu 14.04, if it's not a test against a daily ISO saying that it's up to date is what matters. | 03:02 |
| Unit193 | The system should report when you installed it. | 03:02 |
| RFleming | Is there a how-to on using launchpad? :) | 03:07 |
| Unit193 | Uhhh... | 03:09 |
| Unit193 | !bugs | :D | 03:09 |
| ubottu | :D: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 03:09 |
| elfy | knome: I'm cool with marking the images ready - ~20 for each arch done | 07:43 |
| elfy | also will the blog page be the url it is now - though it will need finishing off | 07:44 |
| elfy | if so I'll tell infinity, then we can forget about it | 07:44 |
| elfy | that is http://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-14-04-final-beta/ | 07:46 |
| elfy | ochosi: in -release re the keyboard issue - "<infinity> We'll definitely need to make sure someone prioritized that one post-beta." | 08:31 |
| elfy | bug now assigned to ubuntu desktop team | 08:40 |
| starrats | good morning everyone! My frozen cursor problem might have been repaired by this command I found on an ubuntu page yesterday. So Just in case someone else comes to you for assistance with this problem, here is the command I used yesterday and have had 3 good restarts and this morning Weather for Kent, OH | Temperature: 21°F / -6°C (Wind Chill: 16°F / -9°C); Humidity: 67%; Pressure: 30.20in / | 10:27 |
| starrats | 102.3kPa; │ | 10:27 |
| starrats | | Conditions: Scattered clouds; Wind: Ese, 4mph / 6kph; Updated: 19 mins, 57 secs ago | Forecast for Thursday: Chance of rain; High of │ | 10:27 |
| starrats | | 48°F / 9°C; Low of 45°F / 7°C | Forecast for Friday: Rain showers; High of 48°F / 9°C; Low of 30°F / -1°C |when i turned on the comp | 10:27 |
| starrats | sorry that was not to happen | 10:28 |
| starrats | the command is this 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall xubuntu-desktop | 10:29 |
| starrats | the weather crap should not have happened, | 10:29 |
| CyborgCygnus | Oh my god, swearing, like disgusting. | 10:29 |
| starrats | so very sorry folks | 10:29 |
| CyborgCygnus | ;) | 10:30 |
| CyborgCygnus | Just pulling your leg | 10:30 |
| ochosi | elfy: that sounds like progress. (let's hope it is) | 11:05 |
| elfy | ochosi: I hope so :) | 11:14 |
| starrats | I hope so too! :) | 11:24 |
| brainwash | what? :) | 11:30 |
| ochosi | brainwash: when i asked you about the xfdesktop patch yesterday the idea was that you could test it, so yeah, it's ready for testing | 11:43 |
| CyborgCygnus | ochosi, What does that patch fix? | 11:43 |
| brainwash | ochosi: but it basically reverts the previous commit | 11:47 |
| brainwash | so I am curious | 11:47 |
| brainwash | is there more to expect | 11:48 |
| ochosi | not really | 11:49 |
| ochosi | it reloads the iconview instead of destroying it | 11:49 |
| ochosi | CyborgCygnus: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfdesktop4/+bug/1270261 | 11:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1270261 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "Desktop items have background" [Medium,Triaged] | 11:49 |
| brainwash | ochosi: ok, you should also add a comment to the upstream report then | 11:52 |
| brainwash | I did not start my test system yet to verify that it works like expected | 11:53 |
| brainwash | ochosi: I remember that you've asked about the default DPI value like 1 month ago | 11:54 |
| brainwash | and now got this report here bug 1297893 | 11:54 |
| ubottu | bug 1297893 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "Giant text and (some) giant icons" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1297893 | 11:54 |
| brainwash | it appears to me that the user "messed up", the default is to override the DPI value (96 DPI), or? | 11:55 |
| elfy | knome: marked our images as ready now | 12:01 |
| AussieDownUnder | Just checking out the install screen on the xubuntu daily. Good work, so polished that I can see my reflection. | 13:03 |
| AussieDownUnder | Nice it even auto picks an Australia server to download from rather then default ubuntu one. | 13:18 |
| brainwash | nice, we got 3 patches for xfdesktop | 16:04 |
| brainwash | which means that 3 more bug reports can be closed soon | 16:05 |
| elfy | always good | 16:06 |
| brainwash | do we want to fix this? bug 1271861 | 16:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1271861 in thunar (Ubuntu) ""Open with 'default app'" in right click context menu with wrong icon" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1271861 | 16:11 |
| brainwash | to improve the overall experience | 16:12 |
| brainwash | elfy: any ibus news? | 16:22 |
| elfy | only that canonical desktop team are involved in it now | 16:24 |
| elfy | and someone is looking | 16:24 |
| brainwash | ok | 16:26 |
| brainwash | ali1234: hey, can you check if xfdesktop really leaks memory? | 16:29 |
| brainwash | https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10759 | 16:29 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 10759 in General "xfdesktop leaking memory on wallpaper change (ubuntu 14.04 with xfce)" [Normal,New] | 16:29 |
| ochosi | brainwash: not sure what happens there with the DPI. that should work ootb | 16:38 |
| ochosi | and wrt xfdesktop patch, i think that eric plans to push that if it works for >1 testers | 16:39 |
| brainwash | already pushed.. like 45min ago | 16:39 |
| brainwash | :D | 16:39 |
| ochosi | ah ok | 16:39 |
| ochosi | good good | 16:39 |
| ochosi | one thing less to worry about then | 16:40 |
| brainwash | now we need to package this stuff | 16:40 |
| brainwash | less glitches to complain about :) | 16:41 |
| ochosi | yeah, that is not my department :) | 16:41 |
| ochosi | (packaging i mean) | 16:42 |
| ochosi | bbl | 16:42 |
| ali1234 | brainwash: i tried but i could only reproduce it once | 17:24 |
| ali1234 | i could not get a proper valgrind dump because whatever it leaks it de-allocates immediately on exit | 17:25 |
| ali1234 | i have seen this kind of behaviour before | 17:25 |
| ali1234 | anyway i needed to get xfdesktop compiled with debug symbols, and when i built it from git i could not reproduce | 17:25 |
| ali1234 | i used a set of scripts tat change the background every 3 seconds | 17:26 |
| ali1234 | i managed to make it leak about 3.5GB | 17:26 |
| ali1234 | but only with the distro package. git version should be identical but it does not leak | 17:26 |
| ochosi | maybe it's the accountsservice patch | 17:27 |
| ali1234 | ah-ha | 17:27 |
| ali1234 | i bet that's what it is :) | 17:27 |
| ochosi | we've been carrying that for a while, so far nobody complained | 17:28 |
| ali1234 | i always forget distro-patches | 17:28 |
| ochosi | i have to mention that i didn't write it, just update it for 4.11 | 17:28 |
| ali1234 | well most people don't change wallpaper every 3 seconds | 17:28 |
| ochosi | yeah | 17:28 |
| ali1234 | i'll look at that | 17:28 |
| ochosi | ty | 17:28 |
| ali1234 | const gchar *user_name never gets unref'd/freed | 17:30 |
| brainwash | awesome | 17:30 |
| ali1234 | that's only two bytes per change though | 17:30 |
| ali1234 | (in my case) | 17:30 |
| ali1234 | bet there's more | 17:31 |
| brainwash | only tested the git version, I'll check my daily ppa one now | 17:32 |
| brainwash | which includes the debian/ubuntu patches | 17:32 |
| ali1234 | documentation does not specify whether it is supposed to be freed or not | 17:32 |
| ali1234 | set_accountsservice_user_bg(xfce_backdrop_get_image_filename(backdrop)); | 17:33 |
| ali1234 | i wonder if the return from that xfce_ func should be freed... | 17:34 |
| ali1234 | nope | 17:35 |
| ali1234 | wwell i guess i aply this patch, build, and run valgrind again | 17:35 |
| ali1234 | okay, test is running | 17:39 |
| ali1234 | yep, it's rising | 18:30 |
| ali1234 | we should really fix more memory leaks | 18:31 |
| ali1234 | i'm tired of reading blogs saying xfce uses as much memory as gnome | 18:32 |
| brainwash | Xubuntu is evil, it eats your memory | 18:33 |
| ali1234 | it does though | 18:36 |
| knome | elfy, thanks for taking care; i probably should have mentioned i was going to be away the whole day | 18:56 |
| elfy | knome: welcome - they just need fiddling with for links is all I think | 18:57 |
| knome | they? :) | 18:57 |
| elfy | it | 18:58 |
| elfy | wiki should be ok | 18:58 |
| starrats | I have a question. Currently 14.04 is at the kernel 3.13.0.19 Generic, when will the next upgrade to the kernel? | 18:59 |
| elfy | no idea - I don't follow that | 19:01 |
| starrats | ah okay | 19:01 |
| starrats | would anyone? | 19:01 |
| elfy | I expect so - but as I don't follow it - I don't know that either :) | 19:02 |
| elfy | though the kernel team meets in -meeting regularly and the logs get posted | 19:02 |
| slickymaster | starrats: take a ook at this: http://voices.canonical.com/kernelte...march-25-2014/ | 19:02 |
| knome | that's not a full url | 19:03 |
| knome | #startmeeting Xubuntu community meeting | 19:03 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Thu Mar 27 19:03:26 2014 UTC. The chair is knome. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 19:03 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 19:03 |
| slickymaster | yeah, starrats http://voices.canonical.com/kernelteam/2014/03/25/kernel-team-meeting-minutes-march-25-2014/ | 19:03 |
| knome | who's here for the meeting, and would somebody other than me willing to chair? | 19:03 |
| elfy | I'm here - but in and out a bit | 19:04 |
| slickymaster | o/ just for the meeting | 19:04 |
| elfy | and I can't drive the bot either | 19:05 |
| knome | anybody else here for the meeting, or should we skip to next week? | 19:05 |
| knome | we don't seem to have any pushing issues, and as b2 is out today, not much we can do about that either | 19:06 |
| elfy | I'd guess people look at the calendar to see if there is one - it's missing for today | 19:06 |
| slickymaster | apparently just us three :P | 19:06 |
| knome | right... | 19:06 |
| knome | !team | meeting time | 19:07 |
| ubottu | meeting time: bluesabre, elfy, GridCube, jjfrv8, knome, lderan, micahg, mr_pouit, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, skellat, slickymaster, Unit193 | 19:07 |
| pleia2 | o/ | 19:07 |
| knome | hey pleia2 | 19:07 |
| slickymaster | elfy: blame Unit193 for that | 19:07 |
| elfy | rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr | 19:07 |
| elfy | oops | 19:07 |
| slickymaster | he's the one who usually adds it to the calendar | 19:07 |
| elfy | apparently I could - but I don't know where to so ... | 19:08 |
| knome | "what do you mean it's not on the calendar" | 19:08 |
| knome | :P | 19:08 |
| * elfy has screenshot | 19:08 | |
| elfy | for Justin :p | 19:08 |
| knome | :P | 19:08 |
| knome | so... do we have something to discuss? | 19:08 |
| elfy | I cna bring you up to date on ibus | 19:08 |
| elfy | and ask a question | 19:08 |
| slickymaster | the tour page, knome ? | 19:09 |
| elfy | and bitterly complain about something :p | 19:09 |
| knome | hmmh, | 19:09 |
| knome | let's do this first | 19:09 |
| knome | #topic Team updates | 19:09 |
| elfy | #info elfy images got tested ~50 times | 19:09 |
| knome | elfy, you happy with that? | 19:10 |
| elfy | #info elfy no upgrade testing done | 19:10 |
| knome | oh boo | 19:10 |
| elfy | I was indeed happy with that - though it'd have been nice to have more done by -team | 19:10 |
| knome | elfy, let's try to concentrate on that with the dailies before RC | 19:10 |
| pleia2 | I am sure I had updates | 19:10 |
| knome | me too, but i've forgot most | 19:10 |
| knome | #done knome did things that are marked as "done" in the blueprints | 19:10 |
| knome | #done knome updated the website content + some page looks | 19:11 |
| elfy | #info elfy ibus keyboard issue this has been picked up by someone from Canoncial Desktop Team | 19:11 |
| elfy | which is good | 19:11 |
| pleia2 | #done pleia2 completed website-related updates on /Xubuntu/Processes | 19:11 |
| knome | #done knome and pleia2 worked to get the G+ group owner issue resolved | 19:11 |
| knome | #done knome and ochosi worked on the wallpaper during the last two weeks, producing many blue variants | 19:11 |
| pleia2 | #done knome and pleia2 updated system requirements and added a new page at http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/requirements/ | 19:11 |
| starrats | okay thanks | 19:11 |
| elfy | #action xubuntu-qa Push upgrade testing, slow down on daily testing | 19:12 |
| meetingology | ACTION: xubuntu-qa Push upgrade testing, slow down on daily testing | 19:12 |
| knome | elfy, except daily upgrade testing? ;) | 19:12 |
| knome | #nick xubuntu-qa | 19:12 |
| elfy | it'll make sense when I post to the list ;) | 19:12 |
| knome | #info many bugs were looked at and some have patches queued | 19:12 |
| elfy | question - what are we doing for RC - anything specific? or will it just be a 'day' | 19:13 |
| knome | #info if there is any bug at http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-t/group/topic-t-flavor-xubuntu.html you are working on, but is not assigned to you, please do that ASAP | 19:13 |
| elfy | there won't be a milestone from what I can see | 19:14 |
| knome | elfy, obviously, i expect us to have "all" of the bugfixes and last features uploaded | 19:14 |
| knome | so some "final" testing | 19:14 |
| elfy | ok | 19:14 |
| knome | to make sure everything is in place | 19:14 |
| knome | probably some exploratory testing | 19:14 |
| knome | and thinking outside the box | 19:14 |
| knome | making sure we don't have anything weird | 19:14 |
| elfy | qa blueprint at 100% then :) | 19:14 |
| slickymaster | kudos on that elfy | 19:15 |
| knome | should be anything at 100% at RC... | 19:15 |
| knome | except maybe marketing | 19:15 |
| knome | which doesn't really have release-critical stuff | 19:15 |
| elfy | and possibly bugs | 19:15 |
| knome | well i'd hope it's at 100% | 19:16 |
| knome | it won't be | 19:16 |
| knome | but that's the goal... | 19:16 |
| elfy | :) | 19:16 |
| knome | if it's not, make sure we document those issues clearly for the release notes | 19:16 |
| knome | (those we think are worth mentioning) | 19:16 |
| elfy | yep - that makes sense | 19:16 |
| knome | #topic Other business | 19:16 |
| knome | so anything else | 19:16 |
| elfy | not from me | 19:16 |
| knome | elfy, want to do the update on ibus? | 19:17 |
| elfy | I did ... | 19:17 |
| knome | (i read the backlogs before i started the meeting, so i know where we're at) | 19:17 |
| knome | yep | 19:17 |
| knome | i noticed, was thinking if you wanted something more ;) | 19:17 |
| knome | so... | 19:17 |
| elfy | nope - just wanted to mention that it was assigned now | 19:17 |
| knome | elfy, did you know what the IRC nick for the person who should know what's up is? | 19:17 |
| knome | or are they on IRC? | 19:18 |
| elfy | ibus? | 19:18 |
| knome | yes | 19:18 |
| knome | i noticed somebody specified a name | 19:18 |
| elfy | happyaron I believe | 19:18 |
| knome | okay | 19:18 |
| elfy | yep - that's the guy | 19:19 |
| knome | will you be in touch with him? | 19:19 |
| elfy | well - I will be in the channel when I can be - I'll try and at least let him know who I am | 19:19 |
| elfy | so he can ping me if necessary | 19:19 |
| knome | yeah, that would be good | 19:19 |
| elfy | #action Elfy contact happyaron at least prior to meeting 3/4 | 19:20 |
| meetingology | ACTION: Elfy contact happyaron at least prior to meeting 3/4 | 19:20 |
| knome | great | 19:20 |
| knome | and great for expecting the next meeting date ;) | 19:20 |
| knome | anything else? | 19:20 |
| elfy | ha ha ha | 19:20 |
| elfy | nope | 19:21 |
| knome | pleia2, slickymaster ? | 19:21 |
| slickymaster | nothing from me | 19:21 |
| knome | slickymaster, everything ok with slideshow translations now? | 19:21 |
| slickymaster | with pt_PT yes | 19:21 |
| knome | heh, well i meant generally | 19:21 |
| slickymaster | do we have any kind of feedback on the call knome ? | 19:21 |
| knome | but ok, i suppose it's ok | 19:21 |
| knome | some people told they translated the slideshow | 19:22 |
| knome | and asked about the "thanks for installing xubuntu with us" sentence | 19:22 |
| knome | i've replied that though | 19:22 |
| knome | and i guess, for the record | 19:22 |
| slickymaster | yeah I saw that on the -devel ML | 19:22 |
| elfy | it does look a bit corny I guess | 19:23 |
| pleia2 | I'm good | 19:24 |
| knome | #info Translators reading the meeting minutes and not being sure, it is okay to do free translations on the slideshow and modify the text a bit to make it sound good in the destination langauge; as long as the technical bits are as they were in the english translation and the message generally reads the same, we're fine | 19:24 |
| slickymaster | https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+pots/ubiquity-slideshow-xubuntu shows that not much has been done | 19:24 |
| slickymaster | :P | 19:24 |
| knome | six complete translations! | 19:25 |
| slickymaster | yes | 19:25 |
| knome | german seems to be coming up | 19:25 |
| slickymaster | and most of them with 0% translated | 19:26 |
| elfy | I can do AU .. | 19:26 |
| knome | elfy, oh "yay" ;) | 19:26 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 19:26 |
| knome | when christoffer comes online, tell him to do swedish | 19:26 |
| pleia2 | do they say flavour too? | 19:26 |
| slickymaster | GridCube could finish the spanish one | 19:26 |
| knome | and pleia2 can obviously do mongolian and uzbek | 19:26 |
| elfy | pleia2: I hope so - it is the correct spelling after all :p | 19:26 |
| pleia2 | haha | 19:27 |
| knome | ok, | 19:27 |
| knome | #topic Next meeting | 19:27 |
| knome | we okay with this time next week? | 19:27 |
| elfy | I am | 19:28 |
| slickymaster | fine with me | 19:28 |
| elfy | and we've got ibus on the calendar for the same time too | 19:28 |
| knome | #info Next meeting: Thu 3 Apr, 19 UTC @ #xubuntu-devel | 19:28 |
| knome | meeting is up in the calehdar. | 19:28 |
| elfy | it's on the calendar for 6pm UTC ... | 19:28 |
| knome | calendar too. | 19:28 |
| * elfy takes screenshot | 19:29 | |
| knome | it's updated now | 19:29 |
| knome | stupid DST | 19:29 |
| elfy | pebkac | 19:29 |
| knome | not really, more in the timezones :P | 19:29 |
| knome | and DST weirdnesses | 19:29 |
| knome | #endmeeting | 19:29 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Mar 27 19:29:43 2014 UTC. | 19:29 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2014/xubuntu-devel.2014-03-27-19.03.moin.txt | 19:29 |
| elfy | :) | 19:29 |
| pleia2 | thanks knome | 19:29 |
| knome | 3 weeks to release! | 19:29 |
| elfy | I'm fine till sunday then it will all go wrong for me and the clock ... | 19:30 |
| pleia2 | what's the deal with the wallpapers anyway? | 19:30 |
| elfy | knome: roll on 3 weeks tomorrow | 19:30 |
| pleia2 | xfce, debian | 19:30 |
| pleia2 | we're all off brand! | 19:30 |
| knome | ;) | 19:30 |
| elfy | pleia2: yea :) | 19:30 |
| knome | will be looking at those problems when we are uploading the new wallpaper | 19:30 |
| knome | hmmm... | 19:32 |
| knome | the bot is weird today | 19:32 |
| knome | not getting all action items | 19:32 |
| brainwash | debian and default Xfce wallpaper... back to the roots! | 19:32 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 19:32 |
| elfy | hi micahg-work | 19:32 |
| micahg-work | sorry, lost track of time | 19:32 |
| elfy | just so you know - the ibus issue has been picked up by someone in Canonical Desktop Team | 19:33 |
| micahg-work | awesome | 19:33 |
| knome | well, we are kind of going back to the roots with our new wallpaper | 19:34 |
| * knome gives teasers | 19:34 | |
| elfy | lol | 19:34 |
| knome | meeting minutes up. | 19:35 |
| knome | elfy, IBus issue update (elfy) | 19:35 |
| knome | elfy, on the agenda | 19:35 |
| knome | elfy, remove if you wish. :P | 19:35 |
| knome | but we will want the update anyway | 19:36 |
| elfy | yea - leave it on there it's fine | 19:36 |
| knome | slickymaster, want to discuss the tour page? | 19:36 |
| knome | we can even pester pleia2 with it! | 19:37 |
| pleia2 | team report updated | 19:37 |
| * knome bows | 19:38 | |
| knome | team reporting that happens during the week with similar bot commands would be awesome. | 19:38 |
| knome | then we could poke the bot to spit them out during the meeting to get them in the minutes | 19:38 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 19:39 |
| knome | and we could also make the bot output them in a monthly view | 19:39 |
| pleia2 | but copy/paste from meeting is easy enough, I'm not so worried | 19:39 |
| knome | yeah, but things are forgotten | 19:39 |
| knome | and everybody can't be around | 19:39 |
| knome | if they could do it when they are on IRC and finished the stuff, we'd have a better report | 19:39 |
| pleia2 | knome: I made this for you https://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-website/+bug/1298564 <3 | 19:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1298564 in Xubuntu Website "Unable to navigate FAQ archive" [High,New] | 19:39 |
| knome | duh! | 19:39 |
| pleia2 | :D | 19:39 |
| knome | fsst | 19:40 |
| * pleia2 is not very good at gifts | 19:40 | |
| knome | marked it "incomplete" | 19:40 |
| * elfy knows that | 19:40 | |
| pleia2 | haha | 19:40 |
| knome | well it's triaged now... | 19:40 |
| ali1234 | are you gonna fix all the "sex" screenshots? | 19:40 |
| knome | ali1234, for trusty. | 19:41 |
| ali1234 | ok | 19:41 |
| ali1234 | people are noticing it | 19:41 |
| ali1234 | i guess it's publicity lol | 19:41 |
| knome | i've noticed they are noticing | 19:41 |
| pleia2 | what are we noticing? | 19:41 |
| knome | also, i'm wondering why adult men go to giggling little girls | 19:41 |
| ali1234 | http://xubuntu.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/desktop.png <- look at the clock | 19:42 |
| knome | pleia2, sex in the screenshot. | 19:42 |
| knome | pleia2, as literally as you can take that... | 19:42 |
| * pleia2 eyeroll | 19:42 | |
| brainwash | we should pixelate it | 19:43 |
| knome | i think we should just forget about it | 19:43 |
| pleia2 | what is it? different language translation of something? | 19:43 |
| knome | "ihihihiihihihi, a screenshot says 'sex'" | 19:43 |
| knome | so what? | 19:43 |
| ali1234 | yeah, portuguese | 19:43 |
| knome | pleia2, portuguese for "Fri" | 19:43 |
| pleia2 | that's what I thought | 19:43 |
| pleia2 | people need to grow up :) | 19:43 |
| knome | yes | 19:43 |
| ali1234 | turns out in portuguese the days don't actually have names | 19:44 |
| ali1234 | it's just "first day", "second day" etc | 19:44 |
| knome | we should make sure we do the new screenshots for 14.04 in english, but for now, just dismiss... | 19:44 |
| pleia2 | ah, so sixth day, sexta-feira | 19:44 |
| knome | i'm actually "waiting" when we have a bug report about that | 19:44 |
| pleia2 | knome: +1 | 19:44 |
| ali1234 | i can make one if you like :) | 19:44 |
| knome | ali1234, no, i really don't... | 19:45 |
| knome | ali1234, i was being highly sarcastic | 19:45 |
| pleia2 | knome: when we upload wallpaper? | 19:45 |
| pleia2 | I need to take flavor screenshots for a book | 19:45 |
| knome | pleia2, i can be in touch with you as soon as it is ready | 19:45 |
| pleia2 | ok | 19:45 |
| knome | pleia2, but i hope we will have a UIFe bug at latest on monday | 19:45 |
| micahg-work | 6 babies born at once are sextuplets... | 19:45 |
| pleia2 | cool | 19:45 |
| knome | so, the screenshot would be finished during the weekend | 19:46 |
| knome | does that work with your schedule? | 19:46 |
| pleia2 | should be fine | 19:46 |
| knome | ok, ping me if the schedule seems to get too tight | 19:46 |
| ali1234 | Noskcaj: i know there's loads of thunar crash bug on LP, i can see them all through errors.ubuntu.com, but they're not useful at all | 19:46 |
| pleia2 | I need to chase down other flavors to see if their desktops are done, but tired | 19:46 |
| knome | we can give you something nobody notices | 19:46 |
| knome | err, i mean | 19:46 |
| knome | something that will be so close to the final one nobody notices | 19:46 |
| pleia2 | it's printed in black and white anyway :) | 19:47 |
| knome | we've been throwing around just color variations(!) lately | 19:47 |
| Noskcaj | ali1234, ok. | 19:47 |
| knome | which all have a different shade of blue in one spot basically... | 19:47 |
| * pleia2 nods | 19:47 | |
| * knome shakes head at artists... | 19:47 | |
| ali1234 | Noskcaj: i would advice not making them public, because they very often contain filenames etc | 19:47 |
| pleia2 | knome: haha | 19:48 |
| * pleia2 back2work | 19:48 | |
| knome | hf | 19:48 |
| knome | i'm off to eat something | 19:48 |
| knome | will be back after that | 19:48 |
| elfy | knome: you has mail | 19:50 |
| elfy | that can definitely wait till you've eaten :) | 19:51 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: we can close 3 lp reports by packaging xfdesktop git head | 19:52 |
| Noskcaj | brainwash, 1. Regression potential? 2. Can upstream just release the next version then? | 19:52 |
| brainwash | 1. tested by ochosi and me 2. maybe | 19:53 |
| brainwash | but that would be a quick next point release | 19:53 |
| brainwash | 4.11.4 is only 9 days old | 19:55 |
| ali1234 | hmm i am confused. xfdesktop is using 1.5g resident but valgrind does not see it | 19:55 |
| brainwash | and we need to fix the mem leak (not upstream) | 19:56 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: is is ok to generate the patches from the according git commits and just add them to quilt? | 19:57 |
| Noskcaj | probably, but if i can make a tarball it's probably easier to do it like that | 19:58 |
| brainwash | mmh | 19:58 |
| brainwash | we got the same problem with abiword | 19:59 |
| brainwash | :( | 19:59 |
| Noskcaj | I really wish we were on abiword 2.x.x or libreoffice | 20:00 |
| brainwash | but it seems so easy, pick the stable patches and release an upgraded package | 20:02 |
| brainwash | but there is also debian | 20:02 |
| brainwash | and things need to be kept in sync somehow | 20:02 |
| knome | elfy, we have the wallpaper landing, which should affect *some* 13.10 -> 14.04 upgrades. | 20:02 |
| ochosi | sorry for missing the meeting earlier | 20:03 |
| ochosi | something unforeseen came up.. | 20:03 |
| knome | elfy, basically, everybody who is still using the default wallpaper from the default location should get updated the new wallpaper | 20:03 |
| ochosi | read the backlog though | 20:03 |
| knome | elfy, then, i would also consult elfy and micahg to make sure the upgrades *should* end up with the components we want | 20:04 |
| micahg-work | Noskcaj, FWIW, I'd rather have a tagged release + patches than a new tarball of a snapshot, but that's just me, that keeps the tarball and the package reproducible | 20:04 |
| micahg-work | it also depends how many patches | 20:04 |
| Noskcaj | micahg-work, I'm starting to agree, since it's always a pain to make xfce git into a working tarball | 20:04 |
| ochosi | micahg-work: btw, we got +1 from gilir on the light-locker FFe | 20:05 |
| micahg-work | ochosi, ok, I can upload tonight then | 20:05 |
| micahg-work | Noskcaj, git format-patch might be useful | 20:05 |
| ochosi | micahg-work: great! | 20:05 |
| ochosi | thanks! | 20:05 |
| knome | micahg-work, what is "tonight" in UTC time? | 20:05 |
| micahg-work | haha, 01:00 UTC or later | 20:05 |
| knome | okay. | 20:06 |
| knome | are you up for doing other uploads? | 20:06 |
| ochosi | micahg-work: there are a few more things we're considering to fix that might need uploads, specifically we're considering to fix inconsistencies in xfce4-session and xfce4-power-manager | 20:06 |
| knome | i will of course make sure we have the exceptions where needed. | 20:06 |
| micahg-work | knome, depends how easy they are :) | 20:06 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: lp numbers 1270261 1272057 1282227 | 20:06 |
| micahg-work | give me a list and I'll see what I can do | 20:06 |
| micahg-work | ochosi, sounds good | 20:06 |
| knome | micahg-work, update the wallpaper in all places, so generally easy (copy -default to -saucy, copy new to -default) | 20:06 |
| Noskcaj | ok, thanks. Is that all 4 git commits? | 20:07 |
| knome | micahg-work, i have no idea if we will make it, but *if*... | 20:07 |
| micahg-work | knome, UIFe (docs with old wallpaper) | 20:07 |
| ochosi | i think the wallpaper is in xubuntu-artwork, so i can push it there and make the changes | 20:07 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: 3 commits, 1 commit is not related to any lp report | 20:07 |
| ochosi | plus update the changelog | 20:07 |
| knome | micahg-work, it is under UIFe yes, but i will make sure we have that. | 20:07 |
| knome | ochosi, is it in -artwork for all the packages? | 20:07 |
| ochosi | i think so | 20:07 |
| micahg-work | knome, ok, FTR, that's our docs team signing off if it's only seeded by is | 20:07 |
| micahg-work | us | 20:07 |
| knome | plymouth, greeter, desktop | 20:07 |
| knome | micahg-work, yes, i'll sign that off for our docs team | 20:08 |
| knome | we don't have the wallpaper anywhere though | 20:08 |
| ochosi | knome: yeah, iirc we set it up so that it only has to be changed in one place | 20:08 |
| knome | the installer slideshow is an arbitrary blue image... | 20:08 |
| knome | (+background) | 20:08 |
| knome | ochosi, that's very wise of us ;) | 20:08 |
| elfy | knome: that doesn't make sense ... "elfy, then, i would also consult elfy and micahg to make sure the upgrades *should* end up with the components we want" | 20:09 |
| knome | elfy, err, ochosi and micahg :P | 20:09 |
| knome | elfy, does it still not make sense? | 20:09 |
| elfy | ok - I thought so - just wanted to make sure of that | 20:09 |
| elfy | knome: though will that not be what's on the release notes? | 20:12 |
| knome | elfy, what? | 20:13 |
| elfy | end up with the components we want | 20:13 |
| knome | hmm, | 20:14 |
| knome | well yes, if there is some technical issues we can't overcome | 20:14 |
| knome | but at the moment, i'm not sure we've done everything we can | 20:14 |
| knome | ..does that make sense? | 20:14 |
| elfy | yep | 20:14 |
| ochosi | micahg-work: hm, why don't we have a branch for saucy of xubuntu-default-settings? | 20:15 |
| micahg-work | no idea, probably because no one pushed one after release | 20:15 |
| micahg-work | you need it now? | 20:15 |
| ochosi | well it would be good/consistent to have | 20:15 |
| ochosi | i actually wanted to compare some default settings | 20:16 |
| micahg-work | sigh, that's not right, give me a minute | 20:18 |
| micahg-work | https://launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings/saucy | 20:21 |
| elfy | knome: images are up - blog is updated to have that - all ready to publish | 20:21 |
| micahg-work | ochosi, FWIW, you have all the history in the trunk branch as there haven't been any updates in saucy | 20:22 |
| knome | elfy, thanks | 20:22 |
| knome | pleia2, do you happen, by any means, have a sec to check the blog? | 20:22 |
| elfy | I don't think there are any glaring errors - but a set of eyes will be good :) | 20:22 |
| ochosi | micahg-work: thanks! it's just a matter of consistency/habit to me. we do the same thing in most of our other branches as well (at least in -artwork, we do too) | 20:23 |
| micahg-work | bzr log -p -r 13.10.5.. | 20:23 |
| ochosi | sure | 20:23 |
| micahg-work | it's useful for SRUs and consistency | 20:23 |
| ochosi | indeed | 20:23 |
| micahg-work | but if you're trying to check what's changed, a diff will probably be more helpful | 20:23 |
| pleia2 | knome: what about it? | 20:24 |
| micahg-work | replace log with diff if you want just a diff | 20:24 |
| knome | pleia2, just look if it's all fine | 20:24 |
| ochosi | micahg-work: yup, have been getting a bit more familiar with bzr this cycle :) | 20:24 |
| knome | pleia2, just the set of eyes elfy wanted | 20:24 |
| pleia2 | knome: would be nice to see history there too | 20:24 |
| pleia2 | here's my rundown | 20:25 |
| pleia2 | http://xubuntu.org/blog/ - Can see "newest" but no way to go back further except by category | 20:25 |
| pleia2 | http://xubuntu.org/news/category/faq/ - No way to go back to earlier ones at all, boo | 20:25 |
| pleia2 | http://xubuntu.org/news/category/articles/ & http://xubuntu.org/news/category/news/ - perfect (see bottom left) | 20:25 |
| knome | aha... | 20:26 |
| ochosi | micahg-work: quick question. in xubuntu-artwork we generate the link to the most recent wallpaper in the debian packaging (debian/xubuntu-wallpaper.links). is it possible that something about that is broken (or not ready/generated in the live session yet) and that would be the reason for ubiquity not to show our wallpaper? | 20:27 |
| * pleia2 seeks lunch | 20:28 | |
| knome | fwiw, we do have that file and it links to the correct place | 20:30 |
| micahg-work | ochosi, I'm not sure how casper handles symlinks | 20:34 |
| micahg-work | and/or squashfs | 20:34 |
| micahg-work | they should work normally I think though | 20:35 |
| ochosi | micahg-work: well it used to work in saucy, so it's a bit of a shot in the dark anyway | 20:37 |
| knome | i hear the symlink shouldn't be a problem, edubuntu does the same and it works for them | 20:38 |
| knome | (i'm in a PM with stgraber) | 20:38 |
| ochosi | hmkay | 20:38 |
| ochosi | well it's weird, if we have the wallpaper in place and ubiquity points to it, why isn't it working? | 20:39 |
| ochosi | bug in ubiquity maybe? | 20:39 |
| knome | well i'm asking about that... | 20:39 |
| ochosi | ok ty | 20:39 |
| knome | no immediate idea what might be wrong | 20:40 |
| micahg-work | did you verify you can see the wallpaper in the right place in the live env? | 20:40 |
| knome | i checked from a TTY, the wallpaper is there | 20:41 |
| knome | rechecking if i can *see* it | 20:41 |
| ochosi | knome: you're in the live session? | 20:41 |
| knome | yes | 20:41 |
| knome | now i am | 20:41 |
| ochosi | hmm, odd | 20:42 |
| knome | can see xubuntu-wallpaper.png | 20:42 |
| knome | is link, and shows the correct png | 20:42 |
| micahg-work | ok | 20:42 |
| micahg-work | well, then, maybe a setting is off somewhere | 20:42 |
| ochosi | it's hardcoded | 20:42 |
| ochosi | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk/view/head:/bin/ubiquity-dm#L369 | 20:42 |
| ochosi | micahg-work: ^ | 20:42 |
| ochosi | so there is no setting i think... | 20:43 |
| micahg-work | that should work, python 3.3 defaults to following symlinks | 20:48 |
| micahg-work | does studio's wallpaper still work? | 20:48 |
| knome | i haven't seen a bug report about it not working | 20:49 |
| elfy | I think they had issues other than worry about wallpaper | 20:50 |
| elfy | I've got a day old image - booting it | 20:50 |
| knome | elfy, thanks | 20:50 |
| * dkessel starts dual LTS upgrade tests | 20:50 | |
| elfy | micahg-work: studio's wallpaper is ok - or was a day or so ago | 20:51 |
| dkessel | i'll do one as an image upgrade test | 20:51 |
| elfy | post when it went wrong for us | 20:51 |
| knome | dkessel, mm | 20:52 |
| elfy | dkessel: thanks | 20:52 |
| knome | dkessel, wait. | 20:52 |
| dkessel | OK? | 20:52 |
| knome | dkessel, bug 1155167 | 20:52 |
| ubottu | bug 1155167 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Upgrade from image prompts creating a new user" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1155167 | 20:52 |
| dkessel | still installing precise ;) | 20:52 |
| knome | dkessel, can you look at that while you do it? | 20:52 |
| dkessel | OK can do that | 20:53 |
| knome | cheers | 20:53 |
| Noskcaj | xfdesktop branch is uploading now | 20:53 |
| micahg-work | ok, gotta go | 20:58 |
| elfy | knome pleia2 - is the blog ok to publish? | 21:05 |
| elfy | though - it seems that infinity is waiting a while anyway | 21:06 |
| elfy | I'm off - cya tomorrow | 21:06 |
| dkessel | hmmm it seems the precise installation did not create a swap partition. at least ubiquity tells me it cannot find a swap partition when i do the image upgrade | 21:28 |
| dkessel | hehe... nice new choice of pink in the slides | 21:37 |
| ochosi | pleia2: ever considered doing a xubuntu princess edition? | 21:42 |
| dkessel | meh. ok. is this a bug? after LTS upgrading, there is no whiskermenu, and there is a desktop switcher with two desktops as default... well all in all the panel looks different | 21:55 |
| dkessel | or not ;) it still looks like in precise | 21:55 |
| dkessel | knome: should i expect my desktop to look like it was before upgrading the OS? | 21:55 |
| knome | dkessel, user configration isn't generally updated... | 21:56 |
| knome | dkessel, say, you had 3 panels in your desktop in precise | 21:56 |
| dkessel | knome: ...and is implicitly created on first login or so? | 21:56 |
| knome | we're not going to force you to use one panel with whatever we think is sane | 21:56 |
| knome | when you do a clean install, you will get the new defaults | 21:56 |
| knome | when you upgrade, you pretty much keep your configuration files | 21:57 |
| dkessel | ok. good. never did upgrade tests before. | 21:57 |
| Unit193 | Also, that's just not how it works. You can clear it out of ~/.config/xfce/ though. | 21:57 |
| knome | yep. | 21:57 |
| dkessel | btw the bug above is still there. will mark it using the iso tracker | 21:57 |
| dkessel | Unit193: what do you mean with "that's just not how it works?" | 21:58 |
| Unit193 | XDG, config, etc. | 21:58 |
| Unit193 | knome: ES still fails to validate. | 21:59 |
| knome | bah | 22:00 |
| knome | i'll look at it $later | 22:00 |
| Unit193 | http://paste.progval.net/show/841/ | 22:00 |
| Unit193 | en_AU, fi, fr, ja, oc, pl, pt, ru, sq, and sv all do. | 22:02 |
| ali1234 | xfdesktop is using 4 gigs but valgrind just can't see it... i don't understand | 22:12 |
| ochosi | ali1234: that's not with git, only with the ubuntu version though, right? | 22:14 |
| ali1234 | i have not been able to reproduce it without the accountservice patch | 22:14 |
| ali1234 | maybe i was just doing it wrong though | 22:14 |
| ochosi | maybe it's a bug in accountsservice? | 22:15 |
| ochosi | (after all, the wallpaper-feature is an ubuntu-specific patch in accountsservice) | 22:15 |
| Unit193 | Heh, I have a lot more issues with xfwm than xfdesktop. | 22:15 |
| ali1234 | accountsservice patch introduces gio dependency? | 22:16 |
| ali1234 | i think that is the problem | 22:16 |
| ochosi | i thought gio is needed for the network-drives stuff on the desktop, no? | 22:16 |
| ochosi | Unit193: what issues do you have with xfwm? | 22:17 |
| brainwash | ochosi: true | 22:17 |
| ochosi | brainwash: hm, what is? | 22:17 |
| brainwash | gio is required for the removable device management | 22:18 |
| ali1234 | yes but the account service patch adds "#include <gio.h>" | 22:19 |
| brainwash | so it shouldn't be a new dependency | 22:19 |
| brainwash | so does xfdesktop-file-icon-manager.c | 22:19 |
| * pleia2 thumbs up on b2 announcement | 22:20 | |
| pleia2 | if, you know, it ever lands :) | 22:20 |
| ochosi | i could imagine that the gio depend in xfdesktop was introduced after the accountsservice patch was written | 22:21 |
| pleia2 | ochosi: alas, princess edition will have to wait until I make time for silly things (unless it's just a background image change, DONE) | 22:22 |
| pleia2 | although, on tuesday...] | 22:22 |
| ochosi | pleia2: i'd at least expect an accordingly colored theme | 22:23 |
| ochosi | and probably a different mouse cursor ;) | 22:24 |
| brainwash | ali1234: how much memory is leaked on a single wallpaper change? | 22:24 |
| pleia2 | see, the trouble with that is I fail at color, so it would just be horrific :) | 22:24 |
| ali1234 | brainwash: not enough to be measurable | 22:24 |
| pleia2 | (princess edition should be beautiful!) | 22:24 |
| ali1234 | when the wallpaper changes 3 times per second it leaks 4GB in a couple of hours | 22:25 |
| pleia2 | ouch | 22:25 |
| ochosi | pleia2: yup, i figured it should | 22:25 |
| ochosi | yeah, so that doesn't sound like a huge problem in most RL scenarios | 22:25 |
| dkessel | slickymaster: mugshot does not save a webcam recorded profile image in ~/.face - does it save it somewhere else? | 22:25 |
| ali1234 | so its around 1mb per wallpaper change | 22:25 |
| ali1234 | i'm running without account service patch now | 22:26 |
| ali1234 | in two hours or so we'll know if it is the problem | 22:26 |
| ochosi | huhu | 22:27 |
| brainwash | 2 hours? :D | 22:27 |
| ali1234 | usage doesn't appear to be increasing at the moment | 22:27 |
| brainwash | dkessel: mugshot also uses accountsservice to store the profile picture, but it still should save it as ~/.face | 22:28 |
| dkessel | brainwash: well, it doesn't :/ and the profile pic is gone too if you restart mugshot | 22:29 |
| brainwash | dkessel: interesting, you can run mugshot in debug mode "mugshot -vv", this will generate some debug output in the terminal | 22:30 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Hard to explain. | 22:31 |
| brainwash | dkessel: if this issue is reproducible, then you should file a launchpad report and attach the debug output | 22:31 |
| dkessel | brainwash: that helped getting more info. yup, will file a bug. hint: the image is too large | 22:33 |
| brainwash | dkessel: great :) | 22:34 |
| dkessel | brainwash: when i try filing the bug, it seems to be a duplicate of bug 1288754, but that is marked as private it seems. meh | 22:35 |
| ubottu | Error: Launchpad bug 1288754 could not be found | 22:35 |
| dkessel | or not existing? this is strange | 22:35 |
| brainwash | ubuntu-bug mugshot? | 22:35 |
| brainwash | strange, how does launchpad determine that your report is a dupe? :D | 22:36 |
| dkessel | well that's what apport told me... don't know. ubuntu-bug seems to work though | 22:38 |
| ali1234 | it checks the backtrace | 22:45 |
| brainwash | that means that mugshot actually crashed and generated one | 22:45 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: can you please unhide bug 1288754? | 22:47 |
| ubottu | Error: Launchpad bug 1288754 could not be found | 22:47 |
| dkessel | ok... bug 1298665, and ping slickymaster | 22:48 |
| ubottu | bug 1298665 in mugshot (Ubuntu) "mugshot is unable to store profile picture" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1298665 | 22:48 |
| dkessel | oh wow. i need to go to bed. good night | 22:49 |
| brainwash | dkessel: thanks for the report and good night | 22:52 |
| ochosi | oh that is an annoying bug. means you have to compress the image or fiddle with it somehow | 22:53 |
| ochosi | uncool | 22:53 |
| brainwash | bluesabre0 will gladly fix it :) | 22:57 |
| bluesabre0 | brainwash, dkessel, saw the bug | 23:18 |
| bluesabre0 | I'll fix that quickly | 23:18 |
| bluesabre0 | just have to scale images to a max size | 23:19 |
| bluesabre0 | easy | 23:19 |
| bluesabre0 | :) | 23:19 |
| Unit193 | http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfdesktop/commit/?id=565ccdfd80f0b4c6e6c67314224bb5c8128177c2 nice. | 23:53 |
| pleia2 | knome: want to hit the b2 post button? I'm working on ubuntu one for fridge | 23:54 |
| ali1234 | ok xfdesktop definitely isn't leaking without accounts service | 23:57 |
| ali1234 | i'm going to make that patch into a standalone executable so i can run it 1000 times per second :) | 23:59 |
| ali1234 | this is probably a dbus leak | 23:59 |
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