=== IdleOne is now known as io [02:08] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7160368/ [02:08] xrandr issues [02:08] !crosspost | lovely_ [02:08] lovely_: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. [02:25] Hello [02:26] my system can't boot from my usb stick :( [02:26] delt: your system you installed to the usb stick? or a live installation stick? [02:26] i wrote the iso file to it with dd if=isofile of=/dev/.... [02:27] delt: what i do it, i test on other hardware, to make sure the USB stick is capable.. [02:27] actually it's a cheap sd card reader with a sd card in it.... [02:27] might that be the problem? [02:28] could be.. i would confirm that by trying it on another machine.. if 2 machines cant boot it, i might assume that [02:28] cause afaik if it can contain the iso data.... and the bootable stuff is in the iso data....' [02:28] delt: doenst matter if the device is "bad" or incapable of being booted.. or not showing up to the computer at that time that it needs to be [02:29] hmkay, here goes testing booting it on the laptop... [02:29] i would then try unetbootin to make the stick.. or try other sticks [02:30] holstein: dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/bootstick doesn't work normally? [02:30] delt: sure [02:30] delt: but, we are troubleshooting now, since that doesnt work [02:31] ok, imma stay in this channel since this is a screen session hosted on my main server.... brb [02:47] :( [02:48] laptop is having difficulty at boot time with the usb stick .... stays stuck until i remove it, then boots from hdd [02:48] ok, using a better sd card > usb reader now [02:49] so, dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/sd?? should create a bootable device, right? [02:49] delt: correct === phiks_ is now known as phiks [02:51] holstein: /dev/sdb1 or just /dev/sdb? ....ie the partition or the drive itself? [02:52] that might have been the problem, i tried writing to the partition, assuming the BIOS would be able to read the partition table & such....... [02:53] d if=/path/to/your/isofile of=/your/usb/disk [02:54] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/USB_Flash_Installation_Media#In_GNU.2FLinux [02:55] ah ok, thanks [02:56] though, if you are unsure, use unetbootin... its easy, and runs on win/lin/osx [02:58] anyway... it's writing now, should take a few minutes. so in the mean time, i'll check out this unetbotin [02:59] !info unetbootin [02:59] unetbootin (source: unetbootin): installer of Linux/BSD distributions to a partition or USB drive. In component universe, is optional. Version 575-1ubuntu2 (saucy), package size 284 kB, installed size 830 kB [03:01] problem is, the machine i'm trying to install to DOES NOT HAVE A CD/DVD READER. so i'm forced (for now) to use a USB bootable stick/memcard. [03:01] hence the dd if=image.iso of=/dev/usbstick stuff.... [03:04] actually i was planning to use my old ide/pata reader with an adapter i bought (and the guy at the store told me it would work) .....except i come home and (1) find out the adapter is meant for older boards to run PATA drives, and (2) i call the store and the same guy tells me it should also work in the "reverse" direction ie. older drive on newer board. Does NOT. [03:05] anyawy, dd is on its merry way of writing the .iso file to my usb stick/card..... [03:06] except writing directly to the card (not a partition on the card) kind of seems to me like.... :/ [03:07] kind of like a book with no title, no front/cover page, that starts directly with "once upon a time...." at the upper left...... [03:08] oh and i also wish dd had a "progess bar" mode, cause there's no way of telling at how much % it's done in this particular case [03:08] :( :( [03:09] damn, good thing i have this laptop :/ [03:13] Hey, whenever I do the dim/brighten hotkeys on my Aspire One, it does it, but it also brings up two copies of the display settings [03:14] This is also recent behavior [03:16] holstein: also..do you recommend trying out 14.04 beta1? [03:17] + if/when updates (ie. beta2) come in the future, will i have to reinstall? [03:17] oh hello cfhowlett [03:17] how are you? [03:17] delt, greetings. no idea on your query as I ONLY do released versions and ONLY LTS. ask in #ubuntu+1 [03:19] ah ok..... [03:19] btw where did my stuff in /tmp go?????? [03:19] :( [03:20] You rebooted right? It's gone. [03:21] delt, /tmp does = /temporary ... [03:22] yeah, that's what i thought.... :/ [03:38] ok, done writing, so here goes .... [03:51] Success!! :D :D installing now..... [03:53] ok, so if all goes well, i'll be back here, from my main desktop machine... ! [04:03] delt: no reason not to try 14.04.. its just not officially supported here yet [04:10] holstein: uh.. i just installed 14.04 :( .....any reason to erase and go back to 13.whatever? [04:11] delt: like i said, there is not a reason that i say you shouldnt be running 14.04 now. as long as you konw what it is [04:11] its not supported here [04:12] will it be in the (mid to near) future? [04:12] delt: will what be what? [04:13] will ubuntustudio 14.xx be supported "here" (as in, this channel?) in the near/mid/long term future? [04:13] delt, ubuntustudio has its own channel [04:13] delt: ubuntustudio has its own channel.. #ubuntustudio.. but, 14.04 gets supported officially when its released [04:13] delt, and NO trusty will be officially supported until officially released [04:13] !14.04 | delt [04:13] delt: Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu. See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. support in #ubuntu+1 [04:14] ah ok thanks [04:14] delt: which, as you can read, will be quite soon! :) [04:25] ahhh yeah!! my good old (kind of shitty) desktop screen!!!!! :D :D :D [04:28] so um... gotta sort out some wires & stuff. brb [05:02] hola [05:09] hi all. wondering if it's a pain to get ZFS setup on xubuntu [05:09] !zfs | This is my best guess, which isn't great. There's also Btrfs. [05:09] This is my best guess, which isn't great. There's also Btrfs.: For information concerning ZFS and Ubuntu, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS [05:12] thanks... i found that page with some googling, wasn't sure if there were any xubuntu related issues [05:13] currently running ubuntu, and considering changing over to xubuntu as i've read it has slightly less memory overhead [05:14] Yeah, Xfce has less overhead than Unity, for sure. [05:15] also hoping my problems with xorg consuming 100%+ of my CPU will go away with a different distro :) [05:15] re [05:16] problems mounting nfs volumes from the server :/ [05:16] Same distro, different flavor/DE. [05:17] mount deimos:/ /net/deimos/ [05:17] results in "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on deimos:/," etc etc [05:19] user@phobos:~$ cat /proc/filesystems | grep -i nfs [05:19] nodev nfs [05:19] nodev nfs4 [05:20] grep nfs /proc/filesystems || echo nope gives me 'nope' :D [05:21] delt: Sorry I can't help, my kernel doesn't have nfs and I haven't used it. [05:23] holstein: advice needed -- do i reinstall with 13.10, or do i try to work around problems in 14.xx ? [05:42] delt: i'm in the same boat [05:42] delt: right now i'm sitting tight on a previous release and i'm going to wait i guess a month or two after 14.04 comes out [05:43] delt: assuming you can get things in a kind of workable-state [05:43] personally i have to do some weird incantations to keep my setup running, but's mostly working [06:07] The kern output is not printing. [06:07] printk is set there must be something else supressing it [06:08] What is the problem here that the debug output is not printing to console? [06:11] !crosspost | one [06:11] one: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. [07:40] Wow that captha is tough [07:40] I went to a linux chat room to ask for general guidance on re-installing xubuntu to a flash drive and I still ran into problems. At least I was able to adjust the size of the partitions upon install, but when I rebooted I got a "GRUB rescue" error message. Any ideas? [07:40] First time xubuntu user and installing it as we speak :) [07:40] It sucks because it works fine with a fresh USB drive. [07:41] but /every time/ *without fail* I always run into problems when I try to reinstall [07:41] have you tried downloading a rescue disk onto a usb stick? [07:41] GIMMEL: honestly, I haven't tried anything yet; I just threw my hands up in the air and planted my face into a desk [07:42] it's what I had to do when my win7 install succumbed to the (possibly) worst rootkit mankind has ever created [07:42] hey who knows, that could work [07:42] i thought linux was supposed to be ugly [07:42] honestly, I just want to know what I did wrong. Where did I stray from the path? Is that so much to ask? :( [07:43] KDE... *shrugs heavily* [07:43] maybe grub just isnt for USB drives [07:43] * ash_m looks up KDE [07:44] dont [07:44] I thought KDE was like a ... what do you call it... the thing that boots up x [07:44] you will feel sick [07:45] the log in screen or whatever [07:45] ash_m: How did you create the USB drive? Is it perhaps pointing to the grub config on that drive, which is no longer inserted? [07:45] ash_m: That's the DM, desktop manager, login manager, etc. [07:45] (Xubuntu uses lightdm for the login.) [07:46] http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/KDE-4-0-Beta-3-Available-Now-3.png (not for the faint of heart) [07:46] it used to be even worse, all shiny and candy looking [07:46] Unit193: yeah, that's what I was aiming for. However, wikipedia was telling me KDE is a community or something [07:46] ah [07:47] KDE is a desktop Env, like Xfce. [07:47] !kde [07:47] KDE (http://kde.org) is an open community that creates and maintains software including the Plasma desktop. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. [07:47] so you can do portable xubuntu installs?! [07:47] GIMMEL: I'd do a live with persistence. [07:47] ah [07:47] !persistence [07:47] To have some persistent storage when using a Live CD, follow the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence [07:47] there are so many things. desktop environment, desktop manager, login manager... this all have different names? [07:47] the install just finished! [07:48] GIMMEL: Congrats. [07:48] anything i should do before rebooting? [07:48] like to check if grub is there [07:48] Should be good to go. [07:48] okay! i'll trust you [07:48] this better work.. or else.. :) [07:48] Hopefully, normal BIOS install. [07:48] be back in a bit [07:49] oh one quick thing [07:49] i installed with IDE set in bios [07:49] do i need to change something for AHCI disks to boot [07:49] (ssd) [07:50] Unit193: to answer your question, the first time I installed xubuntu (13.10), it worked fine. I kinda screwed everything up so I figured I'd try to reinstall. I used a USB stick to install off of, and on to another USB stick...... [07:50] Well, that'd explain a few things. [07:51] hahah, thats very meta [07:51] for the reinstall, I booted from the USB stick with the installer using "try xubuntu" (I assume this is referred to as the "live" version?) [07:52] yeah it is [07:52] I used gparted to check to see that the USB stick I wanted to reinstall to was not mounted (as advised by some other people in a linux chat) and then deleted the partitions [07:52] xubuntu just wants us to Live maan [07:52] then I restarted and installed xubuntu to the flash drive I just cleared [07:53] did you finally make it persistent [07:53] it seemed to go off without a hitch until I rebooted without the installer USB stick and then I got an error with a prompt, "GRUB rescue>" [07:53] oh.. [07:54] why did I have to update? whhhhyyyyy? [07:54] http://askubuntu.com/questions/321302/xubuntu-live-usb-persistence-how-to [07:54] looks legit [07:55] isn't persistence for the live version? [07:55] yeah isn't that what you want? [07:55] your files will remain after a reboot [07:55] oh wait [07:55] you dont get root right [07:56] GIMMEL: no, that's not what I was attempting to accomplish [07:56] see, everything was fine when I installed to a fresh usb stick [07:56] all right [07:57] I used a program called LiLi to make an installer on a usb stick from the xubuntu-13.10 .iso file [07:57] and used that installer to install xubuntu to a flash drive; [07:57] a second flash drive [07:58] Yes, but we're missing the 'why'. [07:58] maybe this will help out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick [07:59] whenever this is a fresh USB drive that I haven't tampered with, especially not installing an OS, this works fine, but alas; I am unable to reinstall correctly... not in the genes you see. [07:59] i made my live usb stick in tinyxp [07:59] the why? well I have several machines running off usb sticks. [07:59] format it and give it another go [07:59] usually people get upset when I give them a why any deeper then that [08:00] did you install those usb drives the same way as just now? [08:00] i mean if they work this should work [08:00] it certainly looked the same [08:00] I mean [08:01] all the prompts were the same [08:01] and it reached the end of it [08:01] if you have a windows or mac machine it's very easy to do [08:01] I assume I must be a complete idiot when it comes to common linux sense. [08:02] GIMMEL: what is? reinstall? I agree. [08:02] yeah [08:02] but my question is, what is it that I do wrong?... I just don't get it. I feel like if I am going to do something wrong I should be mashing mindlessly on the keys [08:02] okay im rebooting now, wish me luck. and i hope you get that install working! [08:02] GOOD LUCK [08:03] byee [08:04] Unit193: so; like I was saying earlier, I used gparted to clear out the usb I wanted to reinstall onto... was that the wrong thing to do? [08:04] what's your experience with xubuntu themes? [08:04] does anyone know of stable/reliable themes? [08:05] ax562: my experience is as follows: I am not certain what the difference is between a theme and a flavor. Does that help? [08:05] Shimmer themes, or the one I'm using. [08:05] ax562: I hear good things about mint [08:05] or maybe just plentiful things [08:05] ash_m: He's talking about themes, as in, settings manager -> appearance. [08:05] Unit193: hah. just goes to show [08:06] Unit193: any ideas on where I went wrong? Should I use gparted again (with the live version) and try to reinstall a second time? [08:07] And pay attention where you're installing grub to. [08:07] maybe it was the fact that I only used 1 big partition instead of ½-space for 1 and ¼-space for 2 others. [08:08] unit193: yes, appearence not flavor [08:09] Unit193: I install through a gui; I felt like it was a pretty standard gui as regardless of which live disk creator I use or which version of xubuntu; they are all very similar: ask to download/install 3rd party software, ask about partitions, ask about timezone, Install [08:09] stock xfce 4.10 is horrid looking [08:10] Unit193: in other words, I always assumed something like where grub is being installed is something the installer would take care of. I don't see a screen about where to install grub specifically [08:11] ash_m: to do that - use the Something Else option at partition stage [08:11] otherwise it will install grub to sda [08:11] ax562: Stock Xubuntu uses Greybird, not fond of it? There's either the other shimmer themes, MediterraneanNight, or something else that happens to support GTK2 and 3. [08:13] elfy: (1) isn't that where I want it installed; (2) I always select "Something Else"; usually I make 3 partitions; 4GB on /, 2GB on /usr and /var.... this time around I did all 8GB on / because people told me that was better in the Linux channel [08:14] you asked the question - I answered it ;) [08:16] elfy: considering what I said I have done before, do you think I should keep doing 3 partitions or make 1? Also, any idea what I should be keeping an eye out for when looking to make sure GRUB is installed in the right location? [08:17] trying xfce-dusk [08:17] going to try it out [08:17] ash_m: I've not read the backlog [08:17] I like the black themes..easy on the eyes [08:17] I just want stability [08:19] elfy: all I said was in the past I installed 3 different partitions mounted at the following locations: 4GB on /, 2GB on /usr and /var.... I was recently informed to install to 1 partition of all 8GB on /... incidently, it's the only thing I did differently when I reinstalled and now I am getting a GRUB error. Do you think I should install with 3 or 1 partitions? [08:20] on a usb stick I would [08:21] what you need to do is ensure that grub installs to the stick - then when you boot a machine with the stick plugged in, boot to that and you should have grub [08:24] elfy: "on a usb stick I would" You would what? Install 3 partitions or 1? [08:24] elfy: also, how do I ensure where grub is installed from the partitions screen? any special instructions? [08:25] it.. worked? im not used to an OS booting [08:25] it's been days..... *Sobs* [08:25] ash_m: sorry - still waking up ... 1 partition :) [08:25] how's the USB alchemy going ash_m [08:26] ash_m: use Something else on the partition screen - set the partitions - at the bottom you can choose where to install grub [08:26] I haven't reattempted to install yet. I think I might in the morning. I am just depressed. I will pay extra-special close attention to the partitions screen, but I really don't remember anything out of the ordinary. [08:28] right now I am cheering myself up with the mundane project of making an excel function (not vba; don't get excited) to tell me which bits are on when you plug in a number between 1-255 [08:28] okay, i hope it works out [08:28] oh boy! [08:29] I'll let you know when I finish [08:30] aight [08:31] gotta go pick up a fresh package of illegal narcotics now ;) [08:35] GIMMEL: done [08:35] here it is: =IF($A$2-(SUMIF(INDIRECT("B"&ROW()&":"&CHAR(COLUMN()+63)&ROW()), 1,INDIRECT("B1:"&CHAR(COLUMN()+63)&"1"))+C1)<0, 0, 1) [08:35] oh god that makes me so hard [08:35] hahah, joking [08:35] i don't know shit about code [08:35] ok, enough with the drug/sexual stuff please. [08:35] assuming $A$2 is your value [08:35] and the language [08:35] :(..? [08:35] please take the offtopuc elsewhere and watch the language [08:36] sorry man [08:36] i'll do my best to remember [08:37] it is awesome though. To me anyway :P [08:37] i'll trust you :) [08:38] the most advanced thing i can do is set up an apache server and configure wordpress on it :I [08:38] setting up apache is a handy skill [08:38] but i'm great at windows stuff. oh wait, that no longer applies. welp [08:39] i guess i am completely useless now. [08:39] (joking) [08:40] what the hell? "cannot read dev/sda" [08:40] what does that imply [08:40] I DONT KNOW WHAT ALL THESE FOLDERS ARE FOR [08:41] that is a device file [08:41] night everyone [08:41] oh okay, thanks [08:42] probably my secondary harddrive then [08:42] "a" suggests it's your first [08:42] ugh the software center crashed, and oh okay thats good to know [08:44] Hey! Anyone here that can provide help with xubuntu? [08:44] Hey! Anyone here that can provide help with xubuntu? [08:44] try asking a question, and then people will respond if they can/know the answer [08:44] ikonia seems to know his stuff [08:44] and yes that [08:44] this is a channel for support after all [08:45] well, I am not a techie with Linux software..had to install it to learn to use python. In other words, a newbie. [08:45] Do not do homosexuality. [08:46] Last night everything froze. Had to shut the comp down manually. After restart everything was happening slowly. I can't run Package Manager at all. Was trying to reinstall xubuntu, but that doesn't work.. [08:47] im gay and not caring about remarks like that is what people like me should all do [08:47] if they dont get a reaction, they'll eventually stop [08:48] GIMMEL: or not comment at all and just stick to the xubuntu support topic [08:48] it's worked for me [08:48] yeah i guess [08:48] Sashco: if you want help, you're going to have provide more info that "doesn't work" [08:48] EVen the error I get is completely weird. It doesn't say anything. How do I post an error-report from xubuntu? [08:49] "help! my thing is broken! what do I do?" Computer Janitor Hell [08:49] okay be back later [08:49] It just says: "The error msg was: 'Unknown error: [08:50] Sashco: if you have internet access use a patebin, such as pastebin.ubuntu.com [08:51] what language should I use? Just plain text? [08:52] yeah, thats for code coloration [08:52] plain text is fine [08:52] And also, is there a way to reinstall xubuntu just off the bat from the terminal? I don't use this computer for personal things, so I really don't need to backup anything. [08:54] Okey. But here is another question. How do look for this error? Is there a cmd that I need to type in terminal? sry about these questions, but the technicals here are a completely new world to me. [08:54] How do "I" look for this error? [08:56] as I am not sure what to paste into the Pastebin. [08:58] GIMMEL, what am I suppose to paste into the pastebin? An error report? How do I produce such report? Do I have to type in a command in terminal to get it? [08:58] you're unable to copy it? [08:59] are you able to take a screengrab, hell even a picture [09:00] no no...it's not that I can't copy it. I just don't know what command to type to produce an error report.... [09:00] so that I can post it in the pastebin [09:00] oh.. well I don't either, sorry [09:00] wait for someone else to reply [09:00] you'll get your help :) [09:01] alright hehe [09:01] Inoki, could you help Sashco out? [09:02] Anyone really [09:02] do you happen to know how to purge the entire system and reinstall it again? [09:04] i'd make a rescue disk/bootable usb stick and nuke the system myself [09:04] then start fresh [09:05] That's what I am trying now. Downloading iso. Though everything is just going so extremely slowly after the crash. Even when I try to shut the system down, it just restarts. [09:06] tinyxp is good [09:06] http://www.hirensbootcd.org/ people say this is the best [09:06] Though I seem to have a problem with my usb ports. They don't seem to be able to read the usb stick :-/ [09:07] it has Everything, but it quite large [09:07] it is* [09:07] did you try the usb stick on a different machine and or port [09:08] no, but the ports were working yesterday. [09:08] could be a temporary i/o glitch [09:08] Now I just get an error rerport. "Couldn't mount device" [09:08] huh. [09:08] keeps loading and just disconnects. [09:09] did you try rebooting? [09:09] i had that happen to me and that fixed it, exact same message [09:09] what bugs me even more is that I can't run the packet manager at all. It just won't run. Nothing happens. [09:10] did you try sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop in the command line [09:10] Sashco: once you've managed to download the iso - boot into recovery mode, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode [09:10] or that! [09:10] If you mean rebooting the system than it doesn't help at all. It just starts off with snail speed, I get two error msg windows(about some programs that do not work). And that is pretty much it. [09:11] elfy: thanks, will try that [09:11] oh :( [09:11] then you'll get a small window with a few options - one of which is fsck - do that [09:11] Gimmel: tried installing from terminal as you imply, but nothing happened. [09:11] i should probably stop trying to help people, ha [09:11] just told me that there are no new things to install. [09:11] let it check then try rebooting [09:11] GIMMEL, :-) [09:11] I appreciate your help! [09:12] i try, thanks [09:12] elfy: Is there a program on xubuntu that mounts the isos automatically [09:12] ? [09:12] Or will the system itself detect this iso at startup? [09:12] as far as the USB goes - there are numerous thunar bugs with usb not mounting [09:12] Sashco: no - you will need to burn it to something [09:13] Sashco: just do the recovery mode fsck first [09:13] okey. But, if the usb should start working, than I can run the reboot from the usb stick? [09:13] i'd use this http://www.hirensbootcd.org/ made bootable on another machine [09:14] it's amazing. it let me make my xubuntu iso bootable [09:15] I seem only to find for usb booting for Windows [09:15] software for windows? [09:16] this is the error I get when I mount my usb: "Failed to mount : Volume" - Not authorized to perform operation" [09:16] there is knoppix if you want a linux rescue disk [09:17] GIMMEL, how can I make my iso bootable at hirens? [09:18] it includes tons of apps for just about anything [09:18] aha [09:18] i dont remember the name [09:18] but they're sorted so it's easy to find [09:18] GIMMEL: exactly what help do you think hirens will give ? [09:18] it has internet access and worked for me [09:19] what do you think would be best elfy [09:19] ? [09:20] Well guys, I'll see what happens when the iso is downloaded. I will try another usb stick...maybe this got broken overnight. Who knows. [09:20] to run fsck for a start - then I would boot with a live session - install the disks program - check the smart data for the drives [09:21] all right [09:22] listen to him Sashco ! [09:24] What is fsck? [09:24] !fsck [09:24] fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot [09:26] Ah! thx! I def. need a system check. Since I know there is something wrong! [09:26] thx! [09:31] you can use one of those commands to run it without recovery mode ^^ [09:31] sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now [09:32] I am purging some programs now just to make sure they are not creating the conflict somewhere in the system. Once that is finished I will perform the fsck [09:33] It may well be something to do with me isntalling pipelight yesterday aswell. So getting rid of that for now. [09:34] I thought you said that package manager wasn't working? [09:34] yeah [09:34] in terminal it works, for some reason. [09:34] Can't run it from desktop [09:34] nothing happens [09:34] ok - so it is just ubuntu software centre giving issues? [09:35] Alright. reboot now to see whether this thing works now. the red "sign" on top of my desktop is now gone :-) lol. I'll be back here in a minute [09:36] yeah, seems like its just the softwhare centre that is malfunctioning. [09:37] oh crap...well, I no longer have privilages to preform system updates through ubuntu software centre... [09:37] which means something is wrong. [09:38] let's just worry about one thing at a time [09:39] okey, I am rebooting. If there is no change now after the purge, I'll do the fsck. brb [09:40] I ran an fsck/grub upgrade before in recovery mode & it just hung with a flashing dash for likr 10 minutes. [09:40] like* [09:42] nah, didn't work. [09:43] still can't shut the system down. It doesn't even reboot. It just kind of logs off and restarts from there... [09:43] what was that cmd again, for fsck [09:43] in terminal [09:43] Ctrl+Alt+Delete [09:45] You tried booting into recovery mode a the grub boot? [09:45] at* [09:46] Sashco: sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now [09:46] Nope, nothing yet. Just waiting for elfy to post the cmd [09:46] there it is :-) [09:58] Hahaha someone regged my usual nick [09:59] Clever, forgot you could do that [10:03] well...I ran a System Recovery(f11), and the system seems to be operating quite smoothly compared to prior. But still I don't have permission for mounting usb sticks(tried 3 different) and I still get 2 windows that pop up saying that "System program problem" [10:04]