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[00:53] <ubunter> hello
[00:55] <ubunter> I'm having an issue after my lubuntu installation, could someone help?
[00:55] <holstein> ubunter: there will only be one way to find out..
[00:55] <ubunter> hows that?
[00:56] <holstein> ubunter: ?.. you'll need to put into words a question that relates to your issue..
[00:57] <ubunter> ok, after my installation of a live image of lubuntu, I have no network connectivity, why would that happen?
[00:58] <holstein> ubunter: many reasons
[00:58] <ubunter> now this only happens when there is a live image installation over the network but not after an installation using a dvd or usb.
[00:58] <holstein> ubunter: its likely just support for you r device
[00:59] <holstein> ubunter: i dont install upgrades during the installation. could be that you recieve an upgrade that "Breaks" support for your (wifi) networking (im assuming)
[00:59] <ubunter> I tried different images on different computers and same result time after time.
[00:59] <holstein> ubunter: i can assure you, networking works
[01:00] <ubunter> I have a server set up for pxe boot everything works fine except only after the installation is complete there is no internet
[01:00] <holstein> ok.. just ask if you have a question
[01:00] <ubunter> i have disabled download updates and same result
[01:00] <ubunter> ok
[01:01] <holstein> ubunter: im not understading your question
[01:01] <holstein> ubunter: i install, for example, and the machine has internet access
[01:02] <holstein> ubunter: you are saying, from the live CD, you had network, and after install, you dont...
[01:02] <holstein> then, you are mentioning PXE boot..
[01:02] <ubunter> yes
[01:02] <holstein> if you are not getting PXE booting, thats not necessarily indicitive of not having netowrking.. that can bre any number of failures in conriguration
[01:04] <ubunter> I see, well one thing I have noticed is that "iface eth0 inet dhcp" changes to "iface eth0 inet manual" after installation is complete.
[01:04] <holstein> ubunter: so, change it to auto.. or whatever config you need
[01:04] <holstein> ubunter: again.. thats a config issue.. and not indicitive that networking is not working
[01:09] <ubunter> Ok so I am not sure where to find the information relevant to my situation. Why does the configuration change after it is installed?
[01:09] <holstein> ubunter: seems like yo have it
[01:09] <holstein> ubunter: just change that to what you like
[01:10] <holstein> ubunter: i have not experienced that issue.. and im on the 3rd installation of lubuntu today
[01:10] <holstein> ubunter:  i suggest removing things from the equation and try and see what is causing whatever issue you seem to be percieving
[01:10] <ubunter> Is there a guide that you followed?
[01:11] <holstein> ubunter: i literally just installed.. and things are just working
[01:11] <holstein> ubunter: ive never had it any other way.. so, never needed a guide
[01:11] <ubunter> PXE boot, live cd?
[01:11] <holstein> ubunter: i have never done PXE boot
[01:12] <holstein> ubunter: and, im quite sure, thats the issue.. i would remove that from the equation and just do a normal install and test
[01:12] <ubunter> Oh, well the normal cd, usb, dvd installation are fine no problems there its only after I PXE boot live cd that I have that issue
[01:13] <holstein> ubunter: ok .feel free and elaboarate about what you are doing.. and what is happening
[01:13] <ubunter> Well I have a question for you, have you ever made a custom lubuntu iso and installed it?
[01:14] <holstein> ubunter: not lubuntu.. i have started with ubuntustudio and ended up with what i ended up with.. a custom lubuntu iso wouldnt be lubuntu amnymore
[01:14] <holstein> anymore*
[01:16] <ubunter> I see, well I downloaded Lubuntu 12.04 iso and installed it on a pc, downloaded and installed different educational packages and libre office. I changed the interfaces settings and then used remastersys to make my custom iso.
[01:17] <ubunter> then I used that iso custom image and PXE boot
[01:17] <ianorlin> 12.04 is ont long term support
[01:18] <holstein> 12.04 is not supported in lubuntu
[01:18] <holstein> you can try main #ubuntu for it...
[01:19] <holstein> ubunter: try lubuntu PXE boot... otherwise, you are reponsible for supporting your custom distro
[01:19] <ubunter> you mean 13.10?
[01:21] <holstein> ubunter: that, or, at this poing, i might try the upcoming 14.04
[01:22] <ubunter> ok, i'll keep trying but are live cd iso meant to be installed over network PXE boot?
[01:22] <holstein> !pxe
[01:23] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer looks out of date
[01:23] <holstein> i havent tried it in a long time..
[01:24] <Vitale> Hi all
[01:24] <ubunter> so is it just not supported that much? is PXE fading away for lubuntu?
[01:25] <holstein> ubunter: lubuntu *is* ubuntu
[01:25] <Unit193> ubunter: I can tell you 14.04 still works with PXE booting, though I have no idea what you're trying to do, have done, or will do, because I haven't read backlog.
[01:28] <ubunter> Well I am a volunteer at a computer center where we refurbish computers for kids. We want to be able to install ubuntu over the network because it would be more effcient. I have set up a server to PXE boot and eveything works out fine except that after the ubuntu is completed installing there is not internet.
[01:29] <Vitale> I was wondering if there is anyone available to assist me with an audio issue I'm having. Currently no sound is playing.
[01:30] <ubunter> driver issue perhaps
[01:31] <Unit193> ubunter: Strange that ethernet wouldn't work.  They aren't the same hardware, are they?
[01:32] <ubunter> the server or the client?
[01:32] <Vitale> I believe the audio card is being detected. Running "lspci" returns 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[01:33] <holstein> !audio > Vitale
[01:33] <ubottu> Vitale, please see my private message
[01:33] <holstein> try "aplay -l
[01:35] <ubunter> Im not sure what else to do there is this guide that I used with some information about the issue http://www.serenux.com/2012/06/howto-fix-networking-not-working-after-installing-ubuntu-desktop-from-a-pxe-booted-live-environment/
[01:37] <Vitale> holstein: The command "aplay -l" returns: card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC260 Analog [ALC260 Analog]
[01:37] <Vitale>   Subdevices: 1/1
[01:37] <Vitale>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[01:37] <Vitale> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC260 Digital [ALC260 Digital]
[01:37] <Vitale>   Subdevices: 1/1
[01:37] <Vitale>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[01:41] <holstein> Vitale: i would just make sure you are not muted
[01:42] <holstein> Vitale: try using "alsamixer" in the terminal, and dont trust the labels
[01:43] <ubunter> ok I dont fully understand this When you run a PXE environment, one of the key things that has to be configured before any startup commenced is your IP address. This is performed by your PXE agent and means that when the Ubuntu Live Environment boots up, DHCP is not employed during bootup because it would sever your connection to your NFS server where the Ubuntu Live Environment is booting from. what does it mean?
[01:44] <ubunter> As a result of this, when you install from the PXE-booted Live Environment, which is effectively a direct copy of the Live Environment, you also end up copying the manually-configured network setup where Network Manager is essentially told not to do anything.
[01:44] <ubunter> its from the guide for PXE booting
[01:45] <holstein> sounds plausible
[01:45] <Vitale> The alsamixer is detecting the card "HDA Intel" & Chip "Realtek ALC260" all channels are unmuted and turn to max volume. Still no sound
[01:46] <ubunter> What does that mean for PXE booting and having a internet after installation?
[01:46] <holstein> Vitale: sure.. and it may not be supporting linux.. but, i would just read the link above, and make certain you have nothing muted.. the hardware switch if there is one
[02:13] <Vitale> Nothing is muted. I'll review the links you have provided. Thank you
[02:16] <Vitale> Have a good day all
[02:16] <Vitale> :)
[02:16] <holstein> Vitale: good luck
[02:41] <utusan> is lubuntu 14.04 discussed here too?
[02:41] <Unit193> Normally in #ubuntu+1
[02:44] <utusan> looks like it's the end of the road for razorqt.  just wondering if lxqt is included for 14.04?
[02:46] <ianorlin> no it is not planned for 14.10 though
[02:47] <utusan> so what do you get if you select lxde-qt from the session menu? vs lubuntu?
[02:48] <utusan> looks like it just brings me back to login screen
[02:50] <utusan> there is also a netbook lxde which looks like openbox menu
[03:56] <user> i am having problem with ssh authentication
[03:56] <user> if a passphrase can open a private key file then isn't it the passphrase to login in my ssh terminal window
[03:56] <user> i've opened private file in cpanel
[03:57] <user> the same passphrase now can't authenticate in ssh channel
[06:17] <wxl> user: key passphrase != login password
[06:18] <wxl> user: also if the remote machine doesn't have your key, that creates a problem, too
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[07:19] <tuxnotebookfan> hi
[07:20] <tuxnotebookfan> does someone can help me with the lubuntu setup please?
[07:20] <tuxnotebookfan> can someone help me with the lubuntu setup please?
[07:20] <tuxnotebookfan> thabks
[07:20] <tuxnotebookfan> thanks
[07:21] <vn151502510> !setup
[07:22] <vn151502510> !install
[07:22] <ubottu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate
[07:23] <tuxnotebookfan> yes i've installed it but i'm not able to create xorg.conf
[07:24] <vn151502510> ah, someone already told about that
[07:24] <vn151502510> you used mini install, right
[07:25] <tuxnotebookfan> cause every time that start screen appears and disappears
[07:25] <tuxnotebookfan> i don't see anything
[07:27] <vn151502510> is that sis something?
[07:27] <tuxnotebookfan> 661mx i think
[07:28] <tuxnotebookfan> it's a notebook
[07:29] <vn151502510> what did you try to do?
[07:30] <tuxnotebookfan> i ve used minimal install
[07:30] <tuxnotebookfan> but when i must create xorg.conf? during the installation?
[07:31] <vn151502510> I think it should be done before you restart
[07:31] <vn151502510> restart after installation
[07:33] <vn151502510> I never use minimal install. But you can use that live cd to access hardisk, you can manual edit xorg.conf
[07:33] <vn151502510> *manually
[07:33] <tuxnotebookfan> live cd doen
[07:34] <tuxnotebookfan> live cd doesn't start well cause my screen refresh always
[07:34] <tuxnotebookfan> how can i write if i don't see anything?
[07:34] <vn151502510> I mean that minimal live ccd
[07:35] <vn151502510> ah, you can change boot option to nomodeset
[07:35] <tuxnotebookfan> i've tried but doesn't work
[07:35] <vn151502510> nomodeset?
[07:35] <tuxnotebookfan> yes
[07:36] <vn151502510> how about minimal live cd?
[07:36] <tuxnotebookfan> it's only text
[07:36] <tuxnotebookfan> text works
[07:36] <vn151502510> yes, but you can access to file system
[07:36] <vn151502510> and can edit xorg.conf
[07:37] <tuxnotebookfan> in the installation?
[07:37] <vn151502510> why have to edit xorg.conf, anyway?
[07:38] <tuxnotebookfan> cause without xorg.conf lubu doesn't work
[07:38] <tuxnotebookfan> now i'm with puppylinux and works cause it has xorg.conf
[07:38] <vn151502510> if you already installed, you boot by minimal live cd, locate xorg.conf in your harddisk, and edit it
[07:41] <tuxnotebookfan> minimallive doesn't works, how can i locate if screen turn off and on repeatedly
[07:41] <tuxnotebookfan> ?
[07:42] <vn151502510> what, if it didnt work, how can you install lubuntu into that machine
[07:43] <tuxnotebookfan> only with the minimal install, but the problem is: after that i 've installed it, at the reboot how can i create xorg.conf?
[07:44] <tuxnotebookfan> minimal install works cause it's only text
[07:44] <vn151502510> and you will create xorg.conf with text mode
[07:44] <tuxnotebookfan> how
[07:44] <tuxnotebookfan> ?
[07:44] <Unit193> !xorgconf
[07:44] <ubottu> The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is deprecated, but sometimes may still be needed to pass values to specific drivers. See `man xorg.conf` for file structure and syntax. | Generic xorg.conf generation: http://ubottu.com/y/xorgconf | ATI proprietary driver specific: http://ubottu.com/y/atiamd | Nvidia proprietary driver specific: http://ubottu.com/y/nvidia
[07:45] <Unit193> Basically, stop x, sudo xorg -configure, review, move to config dir, start x.
[07:46] <tuxnotebookfan> yes but the problem is: how can i do to write this if the screen doesn't work?
[07:47] <tuxnotebookfan> i must write this during the installation?
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[07:50] <tuxnotebookfan> how can i start the terminal?
[07:50] <Unit193> Boot into text mode.
[07:50] <Unit193> !text
[07:50] <ubottu> To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode
[07:52] <tuxnotebookfan> so i install lubu with minimal install, then i boot in text mode and then i create xorg.conf right?
[07:53] <Unit193> Yes.
[07:54] <tuxnotebookfan> thanks Unit193
[08:06] <tuxnotebookfan> so in the grub i press f6 and then i write text?
[08:36] <tuxnotebookfan> Unit193,  mini install doesn't work in wlan? only in etho?
[08:58] <tuxnotebookfan> !xorg
[08:58] <ubottu> X.Org is an implementation of the X Windows System, and is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart it on an Ubuntu system, type 'sudo service lightdm restart'. To fix screen resolution or other X.Org problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution . See also !xorgconf
[08:59] <tuxnotebookfan> !xorgconf
[08:59] <ubottu> The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is deprecated, but sometimes may still be needed to pass values to specific drivers. See `man xorg.conf` for file structure and syntax. | Generic xorg.conf generation: http://ubottu.com/y/xorgconf | ATI proprietary driver specific: http://ubottu.com/y/atiamd | Nvidia proprietary driver specific: http://ubottu.com/y/nvidia
[09:04] <tuxnotebookfan> Unit193,  listen, after that i 've create xorg.conf how can i edit it in text mode?
[09:05] <tuxnotebookfan> i've copied all steps in a paper.
[09:05] <tuxnotebookfan> i miss only this step
[09:11] <tuxnotebookfan> thanks friends for all the support :)
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[13:50] <lord4163> Why is Lubuntu just a little square in Virtualbox? :P
[14:18] <Meerkat> lord4163, install virtualbox-guestadditions-x11
[14:18] <lord4163> Meerkat: yeah found that :)
[14:24] <lord4163> Why won't multiuser get tested on Lubuntu?
[14:25] <holstein> multiuser?
[14:25] <holstein> lord4163: you should be able to test what you like in lubuntu.. i would go for testing in lubuntu 14.04 at this point
[14:26] <lord4163> holstein: yeah, I have had things messing up a lot on a 13.10 box.
[14:26] <holstein> lord4163: not me.. but, let us know if you have a question
[14:27] <holstein> ive had "things" mess up related to driver support, and hardware not supporting linux.. but thats for any linux kernel really
[14:27] <lord4163> holstein: Did a install for user x, had spelled the wrong name, so I added a acoount gave it admin rights, and removed the user created at the install, didn't get the user to automatically login.
[14:28] <lord4163> holstein: Now when I login to 14.04 guest session I get Error: No session for pid 3249
[14:28] <holstein> lord4163: ok.. sounds like you made permissions errors
[14:29] <lord4163> holstein: Right now this is a clean installtion of Lubuntu without ANY modifications.
[14:29] <holstein> i konw, at some point, reading what you wrote, i might consider just re-installing fresh, 14.04, and making sure i label correctluy my users
[14:29] <holstein> lord4163: on the clean install? guest session is broken?
[14:30] <lord4163> holstein: at least I get errors which shouldn't be there
[14:30] <holstein> lord4163: ok.. let us know if theres a question you need help with
[14:30] <holstein> im going to be busy for an hour or so..
[14:31] <lord4163> holstein: yeah seems like a bug, because it's a clean installation
[14:42] <lord4163> http://i.imgur.com/6qwiSvu.png
[14:52] <SonikkuAmerica> lord4163: Did you [ ps ax | grep $PID ]?
[14:52] <SonikkuAmerica> (Where $PID is the number referenced?)
[14:53] <lord4163> /usr/bin/lxsession -s Lubuntu -e LXDE
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[15:49] <lord4163> Is there any way to fix that ? :)
[15:50] <holstein> lord4163: what are the conditions?
[15:50] <holstein> lord4163: fresh install? and guest session doesnt work? in 14.04?
[15:50] <holstein> lord4163: what were the conditions where you edited users? was that another installation?
[15:52] <lord4163> holstein: Sorry for being unclear, that was an other computer. Now I installed 14.04 Beta 1 and have that guest session problem, do you have that problem too?
[15:52] <holstein> lord4163: TBH, i havent checked.. let me see if i can do that over VNC.. i dont have that machine in front of me.. the 14.04 machine i can test with
[15:53] <lord4163> to my machine?
[15:54] <holstein> lord4163: i am not asking to remote to your machine
[15:54] <holstein> lord4163: im saying, on my 14.04 lubuntu, i have *not* tried the guest session
[15:54] <lord4163> I see :)
[15:54] <holstein> lord4163: i am not in front of that machine at this time, but i will try to VNC into it, and see if that allows me to test the guest session
[15:55] <holstein> if not, i will not be able to answer you about my guest session usability til i am in front of the machine..
[15:59] <holstein> lord4163: no.. i will not be able to test that remotely the way i have things configured
[15:59] <holstein> lord4163: are you up to date with upgrades?
[15:59] <lord4163> holstein: yes
[15:59] <holstein> what are you trying to accomplish?
[16:00] <lord4163> holstein: get rid of the error message :)
[16:03] <holstein> lord4163: well, you just hit the x to "get rid" of the message
[16:04] <holstein> my question is more relating to, is there a workaround we can come up with? if you are trying to setup a public terminal.. or what all your needs might be..
[16:04] <lord4163> holstein: Well it means something has gone wrong, and would like to fix this :)
[16:04] <holstein> lord4163: 14.04 is not released yet.. and im not sure if that is something just on your system, or in 14.04, or in lxde
[16:04] <holstein> i will be able to confirm if i have that issue on my 2 lubuntu installs later this afternnon
[16:05] <lord4163> holstein: Would like to replace Windows XP computers on school, and auto login to the guest session :)
[16:05] <holstein> lord4163: did you try and set that up, though?
[16:05] <holstein> lord4163: autologin to guest out of the box is not the default
[16:06] <holstein> lord4163: when you say "fresh install".. im assuming normal install, no configuration, and the guest session is breaking
[16:06] <lord4163> No that is what I'm wanting to test out in a VM first before deploying, but then I came across this error.
[16:06] <holstein> lord4163: all of that is possible
[16:07] <lord4163> also I can modify the guest session like in Ubuntu?
[16:07] <holstein> lord4163: i wouldnt "deploy" 14.04 til its ready.. though, i did the same with 10.04 at a school
[16:07] <holstein> lord4163: lubuntu *is* ubuntu
[16:07] <lord4163> holstein: yeah I'm beta testing right now
[16:07] <lord4163> and help get rid of the bugs :)
[16:08] <lord4163> because Lubuntu imho is the perfect replacement for XP.
[16:08] <holstein> yeah?
[16:08] <holstein> i think its too new, personally.. and if one is expecting XP, one might prefer XP
[16:09] <holstein> can i use lubuntu instead of XP? sure.. but, its getting others to do that that is the trick
[16:09] <holstein> when i put 10.04 at the school i was converting, they quickly just bought windows machine to replace them
[16:10] <holstein> anyways.. we all know its capable.. thats not the issue..
[16:11] <lord4163> and why was that? They are aware that it isn't Windows and I know the only thing they need the PC's for is surfing the web and wordprocessing, Firefox and LibreOffice will serve their needs 100%
[16:11] <holstein> not if they want word on windows
[16:11] <holstein> its not word on windows..
[16:12] <lord4163> they don't need that ;)
[16:12] <lord4163> many teachers are already using OpenOffice on their own laptops
[16:12] <holstein> lord4163: i didnt type the word "need", correct?
[16:12] <holstein> lord4163: these guys bought windows.. and office
[16:13] <holstein> and, thats fine..
[16:13] <holstein> but, i spent a lot of time tesing and deploying a bullet proof system.. unbreakable.. that a few teachers used..
[16:14] <holstein> anyways.. at the time, i used pessulus, which was nice.. on gnome2
[16:14] <holstein> i had other read-only options.. personally, i think a freeze option is the way to go
[16:14] <holstein> reboot, and they bootup to a predetermined state.
[16:15] <holstein> i recently tried the boot as guest thing, and cant rememeber why i abandonded it..
[16:16] <holstein> i ended up making an install that i could clone, that had all the settings and permissions the way i/they needed.. and the place didnt use it
[16:17] <lord4163> anyway I would like to submit that bug/fix it, holstein, you may pm me tomorrow if you are encountering the same issue :)
[16:18] <holstein> lord4163: sure.. what are the conditions?
[16:18] <holstein> lord4163: you literaly only instaled, correct?
[16:18] <holstein> and you click "guest" from the login screen, and it fails? or loads with that error?
[16:26] <holstein> Unit193: you have a stock-ish 14.04 that you can test the guest session one?
[16:27] <holstein> on*
[16:42] <lord4163> holstein: correct, sorry for delay had to eat
[16:43] <lord4163> holstein: the daily amd64 image
[17:21] <ianorlin> holstein I already posted a bug for guest seisson won't work right in 14.04 it is here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxsession/+bug/1273524
[17:21] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1273524 in lxsession (Ubuntu) "guest seisson shows error message no seisson for pid xxxx" [Undecided,New]
[17:26] <lord4163> ianorlin: perfect thanks
[18:17] <Unit193> holstein: Nope.
[19:31] <holstein> lord4163: mine is 32bit
[19:31] <holstein> lord4163: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxsession/+bug/1273524 seems to be it, as ianorlin suggests
[19:31] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1273524 in lxsession (Ubuntu) "guest seisson shows error message no seisson for pid xxxx" [Undecided,New]
[19:31] <holstein> i will join it.. you can as well
[20:33] <lord4163> holstein: did that now
[22:37] <a> hi, quick question, can i have animated images for a desktop image?
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[22:39] <ianorlin> don't think it is offically supported
[22:40] <ianorlin> I think you could have it slowly change by putting pcmanfm -w in a script that you run to change it
[22:40] <ianorlin> but not sure you could just put an animation file to the desktop
[22:45] <Guest13876> i can't play gifs
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[22:46] <zylophone> formally known as "a"
[22:47] <zylophone> i'm not after like a slideshow effect, but the ability to play gifs. you know, that'd be cool for toolbar icons too. or re toolbar icons, maybe one image for the off icon, and one for the 'on'.
[22:47] <zylophone> i'm thinking about making the switch to xfce but it hasn't been touched since 2012? that's kinda crazy
[22:52] <ianorlin> not sure that would be light on resources really
[22:54] <zylophone> or an svg being allowed would be nice
[22:54] <zylophone> as a desktop bg
[23:01] <zylophone> svg's would allow html content as well, which would be great for live desktops
[23:03] <ianorlin> you can set an svg but text wasn't displaying right when I tried it
[23:03] <ianorlin> not sure all features of svg work
[23:04] <zylophone> really? didn't try it to be honest - i'll have a quick play now
[23:05] <ianorlin> png works fine
[23:05] <zylophone> animated pngs?
[23:05] <ianorlin> not animated
[23:34] <zylophone> svg works but not with animated gifs :(
[23:35] <zylophone> great idea though - thanks
[23:35] <zylophone> doesn't look like i can pull in web pages either so i assume no html renderer
[23:38] <zylophone> no dancing banana for me :(
[23:44] <zylophone> thanks anyway
[23:46] <Savour> hello, i looking for way to autologin with lubuntu, i am using lubuntu 14.04 and i cannot locate the appopriate config file
[23:50] <holstein> Savour: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1472113 looks like what i used last time i did autologin