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mapphmmmmm what to watch03:05
MartijnVdSheh05:05
MartijnVdSsomeone captioned this photo:05:05
MartijnVdShttp://i.imgur.com/u9jrRIC.jpg05:05
MartijnVdS"Merkele"05:05
knightwisemorning everyone05:11
mappmorning MartijnVdS knightwise05:11
knightwisehmm ,05:52
knightwisei just installed conky-manager05:52
knightwisenever before was conky that simple05:52
knightwiseits pretty basic stuff but still05:53
MooDoohello all06:41
jussimorning MooDoo06:42
MooDoohow are you jussi ?06:42
jussiMartijnVdS: hehe, good one06:42
MooDooand morning knightwise mapp MartijnVdS06:42
jussiMooDoo: TGIF. that explains it, no?06:42
MooDoojussi: definately06:44
jussiMooDoo: read this... http://theoatmeal.com/comics/misspelling06:46
jussiMooDoo: particularly the part below the manatee :P06:46
MooDoolol well that cheered me up, now I know there out to get me, so Ill take note that you're taking the micky out of me ;)06:48
jussihehe06:48
jussi:D06:48
* jussi hugs MooDoo06:48
MooDoohee hee :D06:48
MooDooyay got my ubuntu site authorised :D06:49
jussiMooDoo: :)06:50
MooDoojust need to sign the document and send it back06:50
MartijnVdSdavmor2: do you think that screensaver bug will be fixed before final?07:43
MooDoospeaking of bugs, anyone know if the login focus issue has been fixed with the beta07:44
MartijnVdSMooDoo: login focus?07:49
MooDooMartijnVdS: on the login screen, after initial boot, you have to right click or do something to get the focus on the login prompt...er does that make sense....07:51
MooDooMartijnVdS: to be honest I went back to Saucy so I don't know if it's fixed or just me :D07:51
MartijnVdSMooDoo: works fine on mine without the click07:54
MooDooMartijnVdS: I'm thinking user error too :)07:54
MartijnVdSMooDoo: Layer 8 :P07:54
MooDooI'll just wait now until release not fussed to upgrade now :)07:55
MooDooMartijnVdS: :)07:55
MooDoolol I might just say it's 9 or 10 as well to cover all bases.07:55
MooDooMartijnVdS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:OSI_user_layers.png ;)07:56
diploMorning all08:25
MooDoomorning diplo08:25
diploFriday \o/08:34
MartijnVdSdiplo: I know a song about that08:39
jussiMartijnVdS: dont you dare...08:39
MartijnVdSjussi: :P08:40
MooDoohere you go jussi MartijnVdS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ - Not what you think08:42
jussi...08:42
jussithank god for quassel web preview08:42
MooDoo;)08:42
jussiFSOIP needs to be invented soon08:43
jussi(Face Stab Over IP)08:43
MooDoohee hee08:43
Myrttiin other news, I love a cappella and Coldplay http://open.spotify.com/track/0pt23eSh17tYjhiOEKGKvE08:44
foobarrywas just trying to download a 3rd party app for windows. i have sympathy for windows users.09:39
foobarryeven the "trusted" sites feature adverts to trick you into installing the wrong thing09:40
foobarryrepos ftw09:40
dwatkinsyeah, loads of green "DOWNLOAD" buttons09:40
jussifoobarry: +++09:40
dwatkinsalso, ad-block etc.09:40
foobarrythis is a fresh pc, no firefox etc09:40
foobarryi felt very vulnerable09:40
MooDoooh it's just ie for you, nothing new there....09:40
foobarrymy sis got pwned within 30 mins of owning her laptop when looking for a codec.09:41
popeyblimey09:41
MooDoowish people would get over this windows is rubbish ubuntu  is great malarky....:p09:41
MooDooyes i'm whiny today :D09:41
popeywhy do you always feel the need to jump to the defence of windows MooDoo ?09:41
Myrttisourceforge is awful nowadays09:41
jussiMooDoo: is a secret MS agent09:41
dwatkinsit's not Windows, it's these websites that's the issue here.09:41
MooDoopopey: no excuse09:42
popeyheh09:42
popeyI wonder what peoples very first download are on a fresh windows install usually09:42
popeyi imagine for some it's ff/chrome, others steam, some vlc...09:42
foobarryalso the pc is stuck installing update 1 of 2 after i chose a reboot. not sure if stuck or doing something09:42
popeywould make for interesting stats09:42
popey(drivers aside)09:42
popeyactually drivers included would be interesting09:42
MooDoomine was AV to be honest.  which ok i'll admit screwed me over last time I had to do it09:43
dwatkinsMooDoo: which AV?09:43
popeyI usually just install MSE09:43
dwatkinsI tend to use AVG at home, we have McAffe at work.09:43
popeymy Windows (gaming) install only has MSE09:43
MooDoodaftykins: I used bit defender.09:43
dwatkinsah yes, MSE, I used to install AVG09:43
MooDoobut the last AV which wasn't that, was packages with something that hijacks your browser09:43
popeyi stopped using AVG when they used to make it actively hard to upgrade09:44
MooDooand added things to the registry09:44
dwatkinsyeah, double plus ungood09:44
dwatkinsI don't tend to install a lot on my Windows machine at home apart from via Steam.09:44
foobarrywhats the chance i'll hose this machien by powering off during update 1 of 2?09:44
dwatkinsfoobarry: fairly high09:44
foobarryno idea what its doing09:45
MooDooI dual boot my laptop for 3 things, minecraft [for my son], photoshop and light room, other than that it's always in ubuntu09:45
dwatkinshow long has it been sat there and is there disk activity, foobarry?09:45
foobarry10 mins, yes disk tinkle09:45
dwatkinshmm, might still be installing it then - assuming it's in single-user mode09:45
foobarryhave a very low trust threshold with win09:45
dwatkinslikewise, especially after the Windows 8.1 update hosed my graphics driver and left me with a blank screen at boot-time09:46
jussisad story of the day:  I made coffee. I went to do other stuff.  I forgot cofffee. I feel bad.09:46
MooDoodwatkins: i will admit that the 8.1 update took hours.09:46
foobarryi only booted into windows to run easybcd because boot-repair didn't work under linux09:47
dwatkinsjussi: http://www.amazon.co.uk/USB-Cup-Warmer-Port-Hub/dp/B0009VEL1O09:47
dwatkinsMooDoo: I let mine complete (it also took a very long time) but it overwrote the NVidia driver and I had to do a safe boot to be able to see the output09:47
jussidwatkins: yuck. old coffee09:47
MooDoodwatkins: stupid computers....09:47
dwatkinsyeah, I was only kidding - I'd never get something like that for many reasons09:47
dwatkinsdon't forget you can power a BBQ off USB... http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2006/08/bbq0608152132_009.jpg09:48
foobarryscreen gone black09:48
dwatkinsdrum roll09:48
foobarryshift key09:49
foobarryinstalling 1 or 209:49
foobarryarrrgh09:49
foobarryjust a little verbose window would be nice09:49
foobarrydoesn't even say what patch its doing09:49
DJonesMooDoo: Why dual boot for minecraft? It plays well on Ubuntu for me09:49
dwatkins1 of 2, clearly....09:49
* dwatkins ducks09:49
MooDooDJones: correct, it's just where i have minecraft installed :D  laziness forbids me to move it to my ubuntu partition09:50
MooDoo;)09:50
DJonesAh that would be a good reason09:50
jussidwatkins: that bbq is just.... wrong09:50
dwatkinsjussi: yep09:50
dwatkinsI'm tempted to Hackintosh my desktop at home, but I suspect its gfx performance won't be as good as with a "supported" OS.09:51
jussihackintosh...09:52
jussithe thing that got me into open source :D09:52
foobarrylol09:52
foobarryirony09:52
dwatkinsWindows 95 got me in to open source, as you couldn't really do anything interesting with it.09:54
jussifoobarry: yeah. I played with hackintosh a bit and the my little brother said " why dont you try ubuntu". the rest, as they say, is history09:54
shauno95 got me into opensource because my computer wouldn't run it.  and I wanted new toys too.09:54
dwatkinsthis PC (486 DX/2 66) came with Win 3.11.09:54
dwatkins*that PC - I'm not still using it09:54
jussithis was in 2006 when Hackintosh first came out09:55
foobarrywow. installing 2 of 209:55
shaunothis was an sx16 /w 3mb.  it ran slack, but not '95. so when everyone else got new toys, so did I09:55
dwatkinsI wanted to get a 286 laptop and run linux on it.09:57
shaunolol, no you don't.  laptop not being absolute pants on laptops is a surprisingly recent move :/09:58
shaunoI had it on a 486 lappy and it was horrid09:59
dwatkinsI first ran Slackware on my 486; I think it had 32 MB RAM originally.09:59
shaunoit managed power the same way a 17yo manages alcohol09:59
MartijnVdSshauno: it goes out as often as it goes in?09:59
shaunoit'd suspend to disk, but not resume from same :|10:00
JamesTaitGood morning all!  Happy Friday, and happy Something On A Stick Day! :-D10:00
MartijnVdSJamesTait: corndog day?10:01
JamesTaitMartijnVdS, if that takes your fancy. :)10:01
MooDoomarshmallows over a fire10:02
foobarrymoon on a stick?10:02
dwatkinsI have some videos on my stick and some software installers.10:02
JamesTaitMooDoo, yum!10:02
JamesTaitfoobarry, now that one I'm used to.10:03
MooDooI know it's only 10am, but can I go home now please?10:08
dwatkinsyes10:08
MooDoodwatkins: why thank you, I'll tell my boss irc said I could go home :D10:09
shaunoif he asks, just explain that 'something on a stick day' is a national holiday10:09
foobarrynow installing 10 of 12 ..what the heck10:11
foobarryiterative updates. it did 160 yesterday10:11
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popeyyeah, non cumulative updates suck10:15
popeyused to have that in SAP land.. you had to install each patch incrementally, and there could be hundreds, and you had to do them in a very specific sequence10:15
popeymanually10:15
popeyone reason it paid well I guess, you had to know the voodoo ☻10:16
MartijnVdSsounds like a great way to keep people employed10:16
popeyindeed10:16
diplopopey: My friend does it for a big company in london, uses PowerShell now to load a csv to do it in the correct order10:16
popeythey eventually added an update tool which went off to their website to find out what sequence to do them in and would queue them in that order10:16
MooDoountil they get fedup and leave :S10:16
popeywhen sap paid decently, it made it very easy to justify staying10:17
MooDoowould you ever go back to SAP popey ?10:17
popeyi ask myself that now and then10:18
popeybeen out of it for 2.5 years so some of my knowledge will be out of date10:18
popeyand its not fun ☻10:18
popeyso only if I lost my job at canonical for whatever reason and couldn't find something else in this industry10:18
MooDoofingers crossed you enjoy your job at canonical for years to come then10:19
shaunois 2.5yrs long enough to forget why you ran away screaming?10:19
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.10:20
MooDoomorning brobostigon10:20
brobostigonmorning MooDoo10:21
TheOpenSourcererpopey: there's loads of opportunities in OSS now. One of my mates used to work at Microsoft, then Oracle (Sales roles). I kept talking to him about FOSS and he was quite sceptical. He now works for Datastax selling Cassandra and open source big data stuuf. Loves it and thinks proprietary s/w is now a dinosaur model...10:22
popeyshauno: haha10:22
popeyTheOpenSourcerer: good to hear10:22
MooDooshauno: let's grep the ubuntu-uk logs to see how many times we can see popey scream ;)10:23
MooDooshauno: no screaming on brobostigon stats - http://taylorworld.me.uk/ubuntu-uk.html ;)10:25
MooDooyay 18th most active nick, czajkowski is now my next target10:26
brobostigon:)10:26
czajkowskieh10:26
MooDooczajkowski: hehe don't worry, just looking at the ubuntu-uk stats on brobostigon page, your the 17th most active nick10:27
brobostigoni am happy someones using it.10:27
czajkowskireally10:27
czajkowskiI'm rather quiet in lately10:27
czajkowskithat whole work thing10:27
czajkowskihowever10:27
czajkowskiTheOpenSourcerer: did you see we're 6 nations champions :D10:27
MooDooczajkowski: yes i can see you were last active 8 days ago :D10:27
MooDooczajkowski: only just10:27
MooDooczajkowski: if that french plonker hadn't passed the ball forward you wouldn't have been :p10:28
* MooDoo sulks10:28
TheOpenSourcererczajkowski: Hi.10:28
jussihehe10:28
TheOpenSourcererIt was a brilliant tournament. I though Ireland deserved it just so O'driscoll can go out smiling10:29
MooDooI think everyone saw how much he was smiling :D10:29
TheOpenSourcererWe played the best rugby. France were very lucky in the first game with 2 very fortuitous bounces.10:29
TheOpenSourcererBut England look very good for next year ;-)10:30
foobarryin grub2, where is the file i edit to remove superfluous entries in grub menu?10:30
czajkowskiTheOpenSourcerer: they do10:30
MooDooI shall be looking forward to the tornament.10:30
czajkowskiIt was a  good season, and yes as much as a I'm not a fan of BOD he did deserve to go out smiling10:30
MooDoolets setup ##ubuntu-uk-rugby so we can rant ;)10:30
czajkowskiwe shall have to do another ubuntu uk rugby day out10:30
MooDoo+110:30
TheOpenSourcererThat is a fine idea10:31
czajkowskilooking forward to RAT though this year10:32
czajkowskilets hope I can make it10:32
MooDooI'm tempted with that too10:33
TheOpenSourcererTicket for the RAT booked. Better get on it. You can always sell it later if you can;t make it.10:34
Laneythere's a RAT in mi kitchen10:34
dwatkinswhat am I gonna do?10:34
czajkowskiTheOpenSourcerer: Jon already booked them, I just need to make sure I'm not travelling10:35
czajkowskiwill be living at an airport in May10:35
TheOpenSourcererlol10:35
czajkowskiJuly is currently empty so far10:35
TheOpenSourcererI used to do that. Glad I don't any more. Enjoyed the airmiles and whatnot but had enough of it now.10:36
MooDooTheOpenSourcerer: damn you....booked10:36
TheOpenSourcererlol10:36
TheOpenSourcererJust registered on the RWC site for news about ticketing. Would love to go to at least one game next year.10:37
directhexmoop10:38
MooDooTheOpenSourcerer: I signed up for volunteering, it's such a tedious process lol10:38
TheOpenSourcererAh, good idea MooDoo10:38
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directhexi should prep a 96plus1, but i've been so busy :/10:41
jussiyay, ramen for lunch again10:43
jussi"Eastern Style Pork"10:44
jussioh, and "shallots" are weirdly named.10:45
MooDooTheOpenSourcerer: do people book b&b's for this rat ? so I can prepare, it's long drive for me :D10:45
TheOpenSourcererDunno - I can walk to the Farnham -> Alton train in 40mins from my house.10:46
MooDoolol don't know why I asked, i'll sort it out10:47
TheOpenSourcererThe Mulberry has rooms and is close to Farnham Station10:47
TheOpenSourcererOr, if you want a NSFW kind of stay try "Hotel de Ville" lol.10:47
MooDooah there are premier inns about  :D10:48
jussihey popey, mr "crowdfunded stuff" guy, what do you think of this? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/107750026/new-compact-step-driven-vehicle-its-your-move10:57
MooDooTheOpenSourcerer: I was looking at the crown in alton :D10:58
popeyi got added to a list on twitter called "Experts on crowdfunding"10:58
popeywhich made me lol a bit10:58
jussipopey: hehe11:00
popeyhah, those look hilarious11:00
TheOpenSourcererMooDoo: Depends on when you plan to arrive. Quite a few of us will come from Farnham so it might be better to stop here and meet up for a pre-RAT beer or two and possibly a post-RAT curry ;-)11:00
jussiTheOpenSourcerer: wait... so you are going to have a pre-beer train beer? :D11:01
MooDooTheOpenSourcerer: I'll be driving down on the sat, probably morning, just looking for somewhere to stay the sat night so I can drive back sunday :D11:01
popeyi like the photo of him pulling it along by the front wheel11:01
popeylike you'd want to do that after riding through dog shit11:02
MooDooTheOpenSourcerer: Farnham is it then :D11:02
MooDoolol11:02
TheOpenSourcererMooDoo: Yeah - I'd stop in Farnham then. I'd be more than happy to meet up for a pre-beer train beer ;-)11:02
MooDooTheOpenSourcerer: you sir are on :) bring chillies ;) lol11:02
TheOpenSourcererI don't know anyone who actually lives in Alton - lol11:02
TheOpenSourcererOooh - I might just have some by then too.11:02
LaneyAh, finding a cheeky packet of tangfastics downstairs11:03
Laneyexcellent11:03
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)11:03
MooDooLaney: ouch they make my tabs laugh11:03
bigcalmAren't I just?11:03
MooDoomorning bigcalm11:03
Laneytabs?!?!?!11:03
MooDooLaney: never heard that before?11:03
Laneyprobably not in this context11:04
TheOpenSourcererTake a look at the end of this Album MooDoo: https://plus.google.com/photos/104060033182234025482/albums/5975387695779422977 Some if this year's chilli plants11:04
TheOpenSourcerers/if/of11:05
jussiwill someone buy me a bottle of red wine... i so feel like wine right now11:05
MooDooTheOpenSourcerer: coming along quite nicely i see11:05
TheOpenSourcerer:-D11:05
foobarryjussi: red grape juice11:06
jussifoobarry: red grape juice + alcohol11:06
awilkinspartially digested red grape juice + yeast-pee-pee11:58
popeyfinally! http://torrentfreak.com/uk-dvd-cd-ripping-will-legalized-summer-1403212:00
Laneynow i can unleash all that pent up ripping i've been holding off on because it wasn't legal :-)12:00
MartijnVdS8-)12:01
MooDooreally?  wow I always thought it was legal for your own copy....oooops12:06
brobostigonquick poll, does anyone think there is space in the market, for well designed dating site, specificlly for aspies?12:12
MartijnVdSarent there already tons of them?12:13
brobostigonno,12:13
MooDoothere are but not as he said, specifically to aspies.12:13
MooDooyou're probably asking the wrong people.12:14
brobostigonwho as i know from experience, need axtra help, and crucially the site it self need to be designed differently.12:14
MartijnVdSyou'll have to make sure you don't get 4channers or similar though12:14
MartijnVdSthat would *kill* a site like that12:14
MooDoobrobostigon: do you know any?  or belong to a group that you could probably ask?12:14
brobostigonMooDoo: yes, and yes.12:15
brobostigonMartijnVdS: definatly.12:15
MooDoobrobostigon: might be a good marketing thing for them then :D12:15
brobostigonMooDoo: maybe, yes,12:16
bashrcdoes aspies mean Asperger's syndrome?12:17
brobostigonbashrc: yes.12:17
bashrcI imagine the proportion of the population which has that is very small, but it could be a niche market12:17
brobostigonlast census, if memory serves, its about 3/4 million in the uk.12:18
bashrcthat's more than I was expecting12:19
brobostigonthats those that are officiallly diagnosed.12:19
popeyis that ¾ million or three to four million?12:19
bashrcI don't know much about it, other than that it's an autism type thing12:19
MooDoobrobostigon: just doing a seach shows you there are a few at the moment already12:19
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brobostigonpopey: the former.12:20
popeybrobostigon: is the goal for aspies to meet non-aspies, or non-aspies to meet aspies or aspies to meet aspies?12:20
brobostigonMooDoo: most i see, are simply very badly designed, and not helpful.12:20
brobostigonpopey: mostly the latter, but all those being a possibility, in my mind,12:21
bashrcI have tried dating sites, but they all seemed dreadful12:21
brobostigonexactly bashrc12:21
brobostigonthis is why i said, crucially the design has to be so much better.12:21
MooDoobrobostigon: so why not knock something up then get your friends/group to review the site, might give you an idea about what's good/bad about it.12:22
bashrcA site where prospective couples did something together would be better than trying to match supposed personality characteristics12:23
brobostigonMooDoo: yes, ceretainly, i have already been doing a few design ideas on paper.12:23
brobostigonbashrc: maybe both those things, can be combined together?12:24
brobostigonbashrc: but i dont want to do, personality matching, that for people to work out themselves.12:24
brobostigonin the traditional sense.12:25
bashrcfilling out long questionares is indeed boring12:26
brobostigonand most people loose patence, and eventually stop filling something in properly, once thats kicks in.12:28
bashrcUbuntu Touch dating app for geeks?12:28
brobostigonhtml5, so works on any platform, not just ubuntu.12:29
foobarryhttp://www.slate.com/blogs/atlas_obscura/2014/03/27/ta_prohm_temple_in_siem_reap_cambodia_hides_a_dinosaur.html13:09
foobarrygreat, now i wanna play tomb raider13:09
foobarrybrobostigon: not only dating but social networking in a way that lets u meet new people/aspies13:16
foobarryso it could have 2 elements to it13:16
brobostigonyes.13:17
foobarrysince aspies might not want the classic first date13:17
foobarrybut get to know each other virtually first13:17
brobostigonexactly.13:17
brobostigonyep.13:17
foobarryisn't there a popular aspie freenode chan?13:19
foobarrywrongplanet or something?13:19
brobostigonpopular, yes, useful and helpful, thats up for debate.13:20
foobarrymale/female ratio?13:20
brobostigonits about 10/1 within asd generally.13:21
foobarryor should i say does the male female ratio also reflect male-female aspies, since most aspies i know are male and female ones have different traits to men and are actually more sociable13:21
foobarrynow you need a cool name13:26
MartijnVdSaspies4life13:26
foobarrymy site for obese people called blubr didn't go down well13:26
MartijnVdSಠ_ಠ13:26
foobarry:D13:27
foobarryaspies4wife13:27
brobostigoni just need to work out basic design and features now, and how to design it.13:27
bigcalmI would have thought that was for people who want to have a cry13:27
MartijnVdSfoobarry: nah that discounts same-sex relationships13:27
foobarryMartijnVdS: the lesbian couple a few doors down from me refers to her partner as her husband13:28
* foobarry was not serious suggestion13:28
brobostigoni could use something like drupal to make my life easier, then use jabber as the backend for the chat side.13:36
MattJJabber \o/13:36
brobostigonxmpp*13:36
MattJXMPP \o/13:36
brobostigonlol13:36
MattJI'm lacking context, but for XMPP chat in web apps both https://conversejs.org/ and https://mini.jappix.com/ are good options13:38
brobostigonty,13:39
MattJor for more of a full-page groupchat style, Candy: https://candy-chat.github.io/candy/13:40
bashrcXMPP ftw14:07
MartijnVdSeven my remote uses it14:07
bashrcXMPP + OTR14:07
MattJ:)14:07
MartijnVdSbashrc: https://github.com/jterrace/pyharmony/blob/master/PROTOCOL.md14:07
bashrcwhich reminds me, I think the default Ubuntu chat client should be OTR enabled by default14:08
bashrchttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libtelepathy/+bug/29686714:12
lubotu3Launchpad bug 296867 in empathy (Ubuntu) "empathy needs to support OTR encryption" [Wishlist,Triaged]14:12
foobarryempathy is still default chat?14:12
foobarrydoes it have plugins yet?14:12
bashrcYes I think so in 13.1014:12
brobostigonthats some hail, the size of gravel.14:34
mappafternoon15:21
MooDoohowdy mapp15:23
mapphm15:26
mapphttp://www.businessinsider.com/the-rudest-cities-in-the-world-2011-3?fb_action_ids=10152238769001878&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%5B10150414578165391%5D&action_type_map=%5B"og.recommends"%5D&action_ref_map=%5B%5D15:26
mappmanchester rudest city in the world they claim15:26
ali1234lolno, london is far worse15:26
mappi thought that too15:27
mappbut who knows15:27
mappand how can you measure it15:27
ali1234well i lived in manchester for like 10 years15:29
ali1234met more rude people in london in about 10 days15:29
mappbut yea thats one persons experience15:30
mapphard to reliably measure something like that really15:30
mappthis bbc death row series is quite interesting15:30
foobarryeast london is the most rude place i ever been to15:57
foobarrypeople shove you to get on the tube even when you are clearly trying to get off, thats why you are in the doorwy15:58
mappyea16:00
mappsouth londons ony part i like16:00
mappcant find any cheap cheap hotels...i dontwanna have to leave befoe the end of spurs game16:01
mapp;/16:01
awilkinsWould it be insane to make a VFS layer for dconf?16:42
awilkinsLike the VFS layer that Powershell has for the Windows Registry16:42
awilkinsThen you could hack around with dconf settings using normal file system tools16:42
awilkinsJust thinking of cases where there is a setting you wish to manipulate but there is no (no-generic) GUI to manipulate it16:43
daftykinswow, Lenovo refuse to sell to the Channel Islands17:27
daftykins(as in their online store)17:27
brobostigon:(17:28
brobostigonthinkpad purchase?17:28
daftykinsnah got a main unit for a client through dabs.com already - just want a second mains adapter now17:28
brobostigonah.17:28
daftykinsgonna pick up a mini DP to HDMI adapter as well so he can hook it up on his boat, but of course that's more mainstream an accessory i can obtain elsewhere17:29
daftykinsah excellent they're on amazon \o/17:31
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mapphowcome daftykins17:38
mappsurely dhl or fedex ship evrywhere why would someone not shi to cannel islands17:39
mappchannel17:39
daftykinsi think the Lenovo store are just *expletives* to be honest17:42
daftykinswe get some of these kinds of retailers or etailers sometimes that just refuse to deal with us because it involves actually thinking17:42
avrono#stripe17:46
daftykins#spot17:49
mapp;]17:49
mappso where are you .jersey?17:53
daftykinsGuernsey17:53
bigcalmpopey: did you have to do anything funky with your router to get SIP working correctly?18:19
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popeybigcalm: i had to switch it to modem only mode, yes18:40
bigcalmNo, I mean your router, not modem.18:41
popeyno18:41
bigcalmI'm reading up on SIP not playing nicely with NAT18:41
bigcalmOkay :)18:41
popeywfm18:41
* popey goes to get chinese takeaway18:42
daftykinsmmm chinese18:43
daftykinstempting but i should use my mince today18:43
bigcalmI might do a pizza run18:47
* bigcalm blames popey18:50
daftykins;)18:51
daftykinsa local affair or a chain?18:51
bigcalmWe don't have any independent pizza places near by. Places that do do pizza are all the same and mostly base :(18:52
bigcalmSo will likely drive to pizzahut or dominos18:52
* bigcalm looks at the cheese burger pizza in bewilderment19:01
daftykinsi remember being horrified at how much dominoes costs19:02
daftykins(we don't have any pizza chains over here)19:02
bigcalmI wish we lived closer to ASK or Pizza Express19:03
bigcalmThose are damn fine foods19:03
ali1234bug 124894819:06
lubotu3bug 1248948 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "lightdm gets confused after multiple login/logouts" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124894819:06
daftykinshaha19:07
daftykinsthat's not a good bug19:07
ali1234don't worry, i alread fixed it19:08
ali1234bug 1256150 is same bug19:09
lubotu3bug 1256150 in lightdm (Ubuntu Saucy) "Xorg guest session fails to start if the user has logged out and logged in again" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125615019:09
ali1234needs testing for saucy-sru by the looks of it19:10
mappsugh20:11
mappsthunder/lightning and lotsa rain..got stuck in it20:11
MartijnVdSmapps: very very frightening?20:19
DJonesGalilo, Galileo20:35
* popey does the fandago20:35
DJonesMagnifico :)20:36
mappsyes20:57
mappsi was very scared MartijnVdS20:58
mapps:P20:58
mappsnot really..but getting soaked isnt ideal20:58
bigcalmpopey: I had pizza. I regretted it21:35
bigcalmpopey: you are to blame :P21:35
popeyi had chinese21:37
popeyway too much, loads of left-overs21:37
bigcalmI should have gone that route as well21:37
bigcalmAt 11%, think I'll have just the one beer tonight21:39
foobarryanyone recommend a good budget camcorder?21:46
ali1234how much do you want to spend?21:47
ali1234and what do you want to use it for?21:47
foobarrymiscellaneous, including youtube quality vids, with internal mic21:48
foobarryHD is nice21:48
ali1234a good quality web cam will serve you better than a cheap camcorder if you want to make youtube videos - and also be cheaper21:48
maps|wrkhello22:23
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diddledanmorning23:41
daftykinshi23:41
dwatkins lo23:42
diddledanheh: http://i.imgur.com/oXQgLWk.jpg23:42
dwatkinsno surprise, I think I know one or two people who use bing23:43
diddledanI think they must be the blip from 200923:43
dwatkinsis that the numbers for people searching Google for 'yahoo', 'google' or 'bing', though?23:43
diddledandonno23:43
dwatkinseveryone knows that searching google for 'google' can break the internet.23:44
ali1234"news reference volume"23:44
Azelphurdoes anyone know any decent video editors? I tried avidemux but it crashes reproducibly all the time.23:52
AzelphurI got bored of avidemux once I hit 3 bugs (2 of which are crash bugs)23:53
ali1234blender23:56
ali1234but it depends what you are trying to do23:57
Azelphurali1234: cut, paste. That's literally all I need23:57
ali1234blender is comparable to after effects... although far far harder to use23:58
ali1234how many cuts do you want to make?23:58
Azelphur1 xD23:58
ali1234then you don't want a video editor23:58
AzelphurI could do it with ffmpeg in all honesty but ffmpeg doesn't seem to like the video file23:58
ali1234just use ffmpeg/avconv23:58
ali1234if ffmpeg doesn't like the video then no video editor will play it either23:58
ali1234convert it first23:58
ali1234they all use ffmpeg/libav internally anyway23:59
Azelphurall video players play it, it's a standard avi, ffmpeg has problems with things all the time where it refuses to convert things23:59
ali1234there is no such thing as a standard avi23:59
Azelphuroh hey I got it to work, passed it -acodec copy and it was happier.23:59
ali1234figures23:59

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