[03:05] <mapp> hmmmmm what to watch
[05:05] <MartijnVdS> heh
[05:05] <MartijnVdS> someone captioned this photo:
[05:05] <MartijnVdS> http://i.imgur.com/u9jrRIC.jpg
[05:05] <MartijnVdS> "Merkele"
[05:11] <knightwise> morning everyone
[05:11] <mapp> morning MartijnVdS knightwise
[05:52] <knightwise> hmm ,
[05:52] <knightwise> i just installed conky-manager
[05:52] <knightwise> never before was conky that simple
[05:53] <knightwise> its pretty basic stuff but still
[06:41] <MooDoo> hello all
[06:42] <jussi> morning MooDoo
[06:42] <MooDoo> how are you jussi ?
[06:42] <jussi> MartijnVdS: hehe, good one
[06:42] <MooDoo> and morning knightwise mapp MartijnVdS
[06:42] <jussi> MooDoo: TGIF. that explains it, no?
[06:44] <MooDoo> jussi: definately
[06:46] <jussi> MooDoo: read this... http://theoatmeal.com/comics/misspelling
[06:46] <jussi> MooDoo: particularly the part below the manatee :P
[06:48] <MooDoo> lol well that cheered me up, now I know there out to get me, so Ill take note that you're taking the micky out of me ;)
[06:48] <jussi> hehe
[06:48] <jussi> :D
[06:48]  * jussi hugs MooDoo
[06:48] <MooDoo> hee hee :D
[06:49] <MooDoo> yay got my ubuntu site authorised :D
[06:50] <jussi> MooDoo: :)
[06:50] <MooDoo> just need to sign the document and send it back
[07:43] <MartijnVdS> davmor2: do you think that screensaver bug will be fixed before final?
[07:44] <MooDoo> speaking of bugs, anyone know if the login focus issue has been fixed with the beta
[07:49] <MartijnVdS> MooDoo: login focus?
[07:51] <MooDoo> MartijnVdS: on the login screen, after initial boot, you have to right click or do something to get the focus on the login prompt...er does that make sense....
[07:51] <MooDoo> MartijnVdS: to be honest I went back to Saucy so I don't know if it's fixed or just me :D
[07:54] <MartijnVdS> MooDoo: works fine on mine without the click
[07:54] <MooDoo> MartijnVdS: I'm thinking user error too :)
[07:54] <MartijnVdS> MooDoo: Layer 8 :P
[07:55] <MooDoo> I'll just wait now until release not fussed to upgrade now :)
[07:55] <MooDoo> MartijnVdS: :)
[07:55] <MooDoo> lol I might just say it's 9 or 10 as well to cover all bases.
[07:56] <MooDoo> MartijnVdS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:OSI_user_layers.png ;)
[08:25] <diplo> Morning all
[08:25] <MooDoo> morning diplo
[08:34] <diplo> Friday \o/
[08:39] <MartijnVdS> diplo: I know a song about that
[08:39] <jussi> MartijnVdS: dont you dare...
[08:40] <MartijnVdS> jussi: :P
[08:42] <MooDoo> here you go jussi MartijnVdS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ - Not what you think
[08:42] <jussi> ...
[08:42] <jussi> thank god for quassel web preview
[08:42] <MooDoo> ;)
[08:43] <jussi> FSOIP needs to be invented soon
[08:43] <jussi> (Face Stab Over IP)
[08:43] <MooDoo> hee hee
[08:44] <Myrtti> in other news, I love a cappella and Coldplay http://open.spotify.com/track/0pt23eSh17tYjhiOEKGKvE
[09:39] <foobarry> was just trying to download a 3rd party app for windows. i have sympathy for windows users.
[09:40] <foobarry> even the "trusted" sites feature adverts to trick you into installing the wrong thing
[09:40] <foobarry> repos ftw
[09:40] <dwatkins> yeah, loads of green "DOWNLOAD" buttons
[09:40] <jussi> foobarry: +++
[09:40] <dwatkins> also, ad-block etc.
[09:40] <foobarry> this is a fresh pc, no firefox etc
[09:40] <foobarry> i felt very vulnerable
[09:40] <MooDoo> oh it's just ie for you, nothing new there....
[09:41] <foobarry> my sis got pwned within 30 mins of owning her laptop when looking for a codec.
[09:41] <popey> blimey
[09:41] <MooDoo> wish people would get over this windows is rubbish ubuntu  is great malarky....:p
[09:41] <MooDoo> yes i'm whiny today :D
[09:41] <popey> why do you always feel the need to jump to the defence of windows MooDoo ?
[09:41] <Myrtti> sourceforge is awful nowadays
[09:41] <jussi> MooDoo: is a secret MS agent
[09:41] <dwatkins> it's not Windows, it's these websites that's the issue here.
[09:42] <MooDoo> popey: no excuse
[09:42] <popey> heh
[09:42] <popey> I wonder what peoples very first download are on a fresh windows install usually
[09:42] <popey> i imagine for some it's ff/chrome, others steam, some vlc...
[09:42] <foobarry> also the pc is stuck installing update 1 of 2 after i chose a reboot. not sure if stuck or doing something
[09:42] <popey> would make for interesting stats
[09:42] <popey> (drivers aside)
[09:42] <popey> actually drivers included would be interesting
[09:43] <MooDoo> mine was AV to be honest.  which ok i'll admit screwed me over last time I had to do it
[09:43] <dwatkins> MooDoo: which AV?
[09:43] <popey> I usually just install MSE
[09:43] <dwatkins> I tend to use AVG at home, we have McAffe at work.
[09:43] <popey> my Windows (gaming) install only has MSE
[09:43] <MooDoo> daftykins: I used bit defender.
[09:43] <dwatkins> ah yes, MSE, I used to install AVG
[09:43] <MooDoo> but the last AV which wasn't that, was packages with something that hijacks your browser
[09:44] <popey> i stopped using AVG when they used to make it actively hard to upgrade
[09:44] <MooDoo> and added things to the registry
[09:44] <dwatkins> yeah, double plus ungood
[09:44] <dwatkins> I don't tend to install a lot on my Windows machine at home apart from via Steam.
[09:44] <foobarry> whats the chance i'll hose this machien by powering off during update 1 of 2?
[09:44] <dwatkins> foobarry: fairly high
[09:45] <foobarry> no idea what its doing
[09:45] <MooDoo> I dual boot my laptop for 3 things, minecraft [for my son], photoshop and light room, other than that it's always in ubuntu
[09:45] <dwatkins> how long has it been sat there and is there disk activity, foobarry?
[09:45] <foobarry> 10 mins, yes disk tinkle
[09:45] <dwatkins> hmm, might still be installing it then - assuming it's in single-user mode
[09:45] <foobarry> have a very low trust threshold with win
[09:46] <dwatkins> likewise, especially after the Windows 8.1 update hosed my graphics driver and left me with a blank screen at boot-time
[09:46] <jussi> sad story of the day:  I made coffee. I went to do other stuff.  I forgot cofffee. I feel bad.
[09:46] <MooDoo> dwatkins: i will admit that the 8.1 update took hours.
[09:47] <foobarry> i only booted into windows to run easybcd because boot-repair didn't work under linux
[09:47] <dwatkins> jussi: http://www.amazon.co.uk/USB-Cup-Warmer-Port-Hub/dp/B0009VEL1O
[09:47] <dwatkins> MooDoo: I let mine complete (it also took a very long time) but it overwrote the NVidia driver and I had to do a safe boot to be able to see the output
[09:47] <jussi> dwatkins: yuck. old coffee
[09:47] <MooDoo> dwatkins: stupid computers....
[09:47] <dwatkins> yeah, I was only kidding - I'd never get something like that for many reasons
[09:48] <dwatkins> don't forget you can power a BBQ off USB... http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2006/08/bbq0608152132_009.jpg
[09:48] <foobarry> screen gone black
[09:48] <dwatkins> drum roll
[09:49] <foobarry> shift key
[09:49] <foobarry> installing 1 or 2
[09:49] <foobarry> arrrgh
[09:49] <foobarry> just a little verbose window would be nice
[09:49] <foobarry> doesn't even say what patch its doing
[09:49] <DJones> MooDoo: Why dual boot for minecraft? It plays well on Ubuntu for me
[09:49] <dwatkins> 1 of 2, clearly....
[09:49]  * dwatkins ducks
[09:50] <MooDoo> DJones: correct, it's just where i have minecraft installed :D  laziness forbids me to move it to my ubuntu partition
[09:50] <MooDoo> ;)
[09:50] <DJones> Ah that would be a good reason
[09:50] <jussi> dwatkins: that bbq is just.... wrong
[09:50] <dwatkins> jussi: yep
[09:51] <dwatkins> I'm tempted to Hackintosh my desktop at home, but I suspect its gfx performance won't be as good as with a "supported" OS.
[09:52] <jussi> hackintosh...
[09:52] <jussi> the thing that got me into open source :D
[09:52] <foobarry> lol
[09:52] <foobarry> irony
[09:54] <dwatkins> Windows 95 got me in to open source, as you couldn't really do anything interesting with it.
[09:54] <jussi> foobarry: yeah. I played with hackintosh a bit and the my little brother said " why dont you try ubuntu". the rest, as they say, is history
[09:54] <shauno> 95 got me into opensource because my computer wouldn't run it.  and I wanted new toys too.
[09:54] <dwatkins> this PC (486 DX/2 66) came with Win 3.11.
[09:54] <dwatkins> *that PC - I'm not still using it
[09:55] <jussi> this was in 2006 when Hackintosh first came out
[09:55] <foobarry> wow. installing 2 of 2
[09:55] <shauno> this was an sx16 /w 3mb.  it ran slack, but not '95. so when everyone else got new toys, so did I
[09:57] <dwatkins> I wanted to get a 286 laptop and run linux on it.
[09:58] <shauno> lol, no you don't.  laptop not being absolute pants on laptops is a surprisingly recent move :/
[09:59] <shauno> I had it on a 486 lappy and it was horrid
[09:59] <dwatkins> I first ran Slackware on my 486; I think it had 32 MB RAM originally.
[09:59] <shauno> it managed power the same way a 17yo manages alcohol
[09:59] <MartijnVdS> shauno: it goes out as often as it goes in?
[10:00] <shauno> it'd suspend to disk, but not resume from same :|
[10:00] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Friday, and happy Something On A Stick Day! :-D
[10:01] <MartijnVdS> JamesTait: corndog day?
[10:01] <JamesTait> MartijnVdS, if that takes your fancy. :)
[10:02] <MooDoo> marshmallows over a fire
[10:02] <foobarry> moon on a stick?
[10:02] <dwatkins> I have some videos on my stick and some software installers.
[10:02] <JamesTait> MooDoo, yum!
[10:03] <JamesTait> foobarry, now that one I'm used to.
[10:08] <MooDoo> I know it's only 10am, but can I go home now please?
[10:08] <dwatkins> yes
[10:09] <MooDoo> dwatkins: why thank you, I'll tell my boss irc said I could go home :D
[10:09] <shauno> if he asks, just explain that 'something on a stick day' is a national holiday
[10:11] <foobarry> now installing 10 of 12 ..what the heck
[10:11] <foobarry> iterative updates. it did 160 yesterday
[10:15] <popey> yeah, non cumulative updates suck
[10:15] <popey> used to have that in SAP land.. you had to install each patch incrementally, and there could be hundreds, and you had to do them in a very specific sequence
[10:15] <popey> manually
[10:16] <popey> one reason it paid well I guess, you had to know the voodoo ☻
[10:16] <MartijnVdS> sounds like a great way to keep people employed
[10:16] <popey> indeed
[10:16] <diplo> popey: My friend does it for a big company in london, uses PowerShell now to load a csv to do it in the correct order
[10:16] <popey> they eventually added an update tool which went off to their website to find out what sequence to do them in and would queue them in that order
[10:16] <MooDoo> until they get fedup and leave :S
[10:17] <popey> when sap paid decently, it made it very easy to justify staying
[10:17] <MooDoo> would you ever go back to SAP popey ?
[10:18] <popey> i ask myself that now and then
[10:18] <popey> been out of it for 2.5 years so some of my knowledge will be out of date
[10:18] <popey> and its not fun ☻
[10:18] <popey> so only if I lost my job at canonical for whatever reason and couldn't find something else in this industry
[10:19] <MooDoo> fingers crossed you enjoy your job at canonical for years to come then
[10:19] <shauno> is 2.5yrs long enough to forget why you ran away screaming?
[10:20] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:20] <MooDoo> morning brobostigon
[10:21] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[10:22] <TheOpenSourcerer> popey: there's loads of opportunities in OSS now. One of my mates used to work at Microsoft, then Oracle (Sales roles). I kept talking to him about FOSS and he was quite sceptical. He now works for Datastax selling Cassandra and open source big data stuuf. Loves it and thinks proprietary s/w is now a dinosaur model...
[10:22] <popey> shauno: haha
[10:22] <popey> TheOpenSourcerer: good to hear
[10:23] <MooDoo> shauno: let's grep the ubuntu-uk logs to see how many times we can see popey scream ;)
[10:25] <MooDoo> shauno: no screaming on brobostigon stats - http://taylorworld.me.uk/ubuntu-uk.html ;)
[10:26] <MooDoo> yay 18th most active nick, czajkowski is now my next target
[10:26] <brobostigon> :)
[10:26] <czajkowski> eh
[10:27] <MooDoo> czajkowski: hehe don't worry, just looking at the ubuntu-uk stats on brobostigon page, your the 17th most active nick
[10:27] <brobostigon> i am happy someones using it.
[10:27] <czajkowski> really
[10:27] <czajkowski> I'm rather quiet in lately
[10:27] <czajkowski> that whole work thing
[10:27] <czajkowski> however
[10:27] <czajkowski> TheOpenSourcerer: did you see we're 6 nations champions :D
[10:27] <MooDoo> czajkowski: yes i can see you were last active 8 days ago :D
[10:27] <MooDoo> czajkowski: only just
[10:28] <MooDoo> czajkowski: if that french plonker hadn't passed the ball forward you wouldn't have been :p
[10:28]  * MooDoo sulks
[10:28] <TheOpenSourcerer> czajkowski: Hi.
[10:28] <jussi> hehe
[10:29] <TheOpenSourcerer> It was a brilliant tournament. I though Ireland deserved it just so O'driscoll can go out smiling
[10:29] <MooDoo> I think everyone saw how much he was smiling :D
[10:29] <TheOpenSourcerer> We played the best rugby. France were very lucky in the first game with 2 very fortuitous bounces.
[10:30] <TheOpenSourcerer> But England look very good for next year ;-)
[10:30] <foobarry> in grub2, where is the file i edit to remove superfluous entries in grub menu?
[10:30] <czajkowski> TheOpenSourcerer: they do
[10:30] <MooDoo> I shall be looking forward to the tornament.
[10:30] <czajkowski> It was a  good season, and yes as much as a I'm not a fan of BOD he did deserve to go out smiling
[10:30] <MooDoo> lets setup ##ubuntu-uk-rugby so we can rant ;)
[10:30] <czajkowski> we shall have to do another ubuntu uk rugby day out
[10:30] <MooDoo> +1
[10:31] <TheOpenSourcerer> That is a fine idea
[10:32] <czajkowski> looking forward to RAT though this year
[10:32] <czajkowski> lets hope I can make it
[10:33] <MooDoo> I'm tempted with that too
[10:34] <TheOpenSourcerer> Ticket for the RAT booked. Better get on it. You can always sell it later if you can;t make it.
[10:34] <Laney> there's a RAT in mi kitchen
[10:34] <dwatkins> what am I gonna do?
[10:35] <czajkowski> TheOpenSourcerer: Jon already booked them, I just need to make sure I'm not travelling
[10:35] <czajkowski> will be living at an airport in May
[10:35] <TheOpenSourcerer> lol
[10:35] <czajkowski> July is currently empty so far
[10:36] <TheOpenSourcerer> I used to do that. Glad I don't any more. Enjoyed the airmiles and whatnot but had enough of it now.
[10:36] <MooDoo> TheOpenSourcerer: damn you....booked
[10:36] <TheOpenSourcerer> lol
[10:37] <TheOpenSourcerer> Just registered on the RWC site for news about ticketing. Would love to go to at least one game next year.
[10:38] <directhex> moop
[10:38] <MooDoo> TheOpenSourcerer: I signed up for volunteering, it's such a tedious process lol
[10:38] <TheOpenSourcerer> Ah, good idea MooDoo
[10:39] <popey> directhex:             done      811.0 MB Rate:   0.0 /   0.0 KB Uploaded: 36771.6 MB                 [   R: 45.34]
[10:41] <directhex> i should prep a 96plus1, but i've been so busy :/
[10:43] <jussi> yay, ramen for lunch again
[10:44] <jussi> "Eastern Style Pork"
[10:45] <jussi> oh, and "shallots" are weirdly named.
[10:45] <MooDoo> TheOpenSourcerer: do people book b&b's for this rat ? so I can prepare, it's long drive for me :D
[10:46] <TheOpenSourcerer> Dunno - I can walk to the Farnham -> Alton train in 40mins from my house.
[10:47] <MooDoo> lol don't know why I asked, i'll sort it out
[10:47] <TheOpenSourcerer> The Mulberry has rooms and is close to Farnham Station
[10:47] <TheOpenSourcerer> Or, if you want a NSFW kind of stay try "Hotel de Ville" lol.
[10:48] <MooDoo> ah there are premier inns about  :D
[10:57] <jussi> hey popey, mr "crowdfunded stuff" guy, what do you think of this? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/107750026/new-compact-step-driven-vehicle-its-your-move
[10:58] <MooDoo> TheOpenSourcerer: I was looking at the crown in alton :D
[10:58] <popey> i got added to a list on twitter called "Experts on crowdfunding"
[10:58] <popey> which made me lol a bit
[11:00] <jussi> popey: hehe
[11:00] <popey> hah, those look hilarious
[11:00] <TheOpenSourcerer> MooDoo: Depends on when you plan to arrive. Quite a few of us will come from Farnham so it might be better to stop here and meet up for a pre-RAT beer or two and possibly a post-RAT curry ;-)
[11:01] <jussi> TheOpenSourcerer: wait... so you are going to have a pre-beer train beer? :D
[11:01] <MooDoo> TheOpenSourcerer: I'll be driving down on the sat, probably morning, just looking for somewhere to stay the sat night so I can drive back sunday :D
[11:01] <popey> i like the photo of him pulling it along by the front wheel
[11:02] <popey> like you'd want to do that after riding through dog shit
[11:02] <MooDoo> TheOpenSourcerer: Farnham is it then :D
[11:02] <MooDoo> lol
[11:02] <TheOpenSourcerer> MooDoo: Yeah - I'd stop in Farnham then. I'd be more than happy to meet up for a pre-beer train beer ;-)
[11:02] <MooDoo> TheOpenSourcerer: you sir are on :) bring chillies ;) lol
[11:02] <TheOpenSourcerer> I don't know anyone who actually lives in Alton - lol
[11:02] <TheOpenSourcerer> Oooh - I might just have some by then too.
[11:03] <Laney> Ah, finding a cheeky packet of tangfastics downstairs
[11:03] <Laney> excellent
[11:03] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[11:03] <MooDoo> Laney: ouch they make my tabs laugh
[11:03] <bigcalm> Aren't I just?
[11:03] <MooDoo> morning bigcalm
[11:03] <Laney> tabs?!?!?!
[11:03] <MooDoo> Laney: never heard that before?
[11:04] <Laney> probably not in this context
[11:04] <TheOpenSourcerer> Take a look at the end of this Album MooDoo: https://plus.google.com/photos/104060033182234025482/albums/5975387695779422977 Some if this year's chilli plants
[11:05] <TheOpenSourcerer> s/if/of
[11:05] <jussi> will someone buy me a bottle of red wine... i so feel like wine right now
[11:05] <MooDoo> TheOpenSourcerer: coming along quite nicely i see
[11:05] <TheOpenSourcerer> :-D
[11:06] <foobarry> jussi: red grape juice
[11:06] <jussi> foobarry: red grape juice + alcohol
[11:58] <awilkins> partially digested red grape juice + yeast-pee-pee
[12:00] <popey> finally! http://torrentfreak.com/uk-dvd-cd-ripping-will-legalized-summer-14032
[12:00] <Laney> now i can unleash all that pent up ripping i've been holding off on because it wasn't legal :-)
[12:01] <MartijnVdS> 8-)
[12:06] <MooDoo> really?  wow I always thought it was legal for your own copy....oooops
[12:12] <brobostigon> quick poll, does anyone think there is space in the market, for well designed dating site, specificlly for aspies?
[12:13] <MartijnVdS> arent there already tons of them?
[12:13] <brobostigon> no,
[12:13] <MooDoo> there are but not as he said, specifically to aspies.
[12:14] <MooDoo> you're probably asking the wrong people.
[12:14] <brobostigon> who as i know from experience, need axtra help, and crucially the site it self need to be designed differently.
[12:14] <MartijnVdS> you'll have to make sure you don't get 4channers or similar though
[12:14] <MartijnVdS> that would *kill* a site like that
[12:14] <MooDoo> brobostigon: do you know any?  or belong to a group that you could probably ask?
[12:15] <brobostigon> MooDoo: yes, and yes.
[12:15] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: definatly.
[12:15] <MooDoo> brobostigon: might be a good marketing thing for them then :D
[12:16] <brobostigon> MooDoo: maybe, yes,
[12:17] <bashrc> does aspies mean Asperger's syndrome?
[12:17] <brobostigon> bashrc: yes.
[12:17] <bashrc> I imagine the proportion of the population which has that is very small, but it could be a niche market
[12:18] <brobostigon> last census, if memory serves, its about 3/4 million in the uk.
[12:19] <bashrc> that's more than I was expecting
[12:19] <brobostigon> thats those that are officiallly diagnosed.
[12:19] <popey> is that ¾ million or three to four million?
[12:19] <bashrc> I don't know much about it, other than that it's an autism type thing
[12:19] <MooDoo> brobostigon: just doing a seach shows you there are a few at the moment already
[12:20] <brobostigon> popey: the former.
[12:20] <popey> brobostigon: is the goal for aspies to meet non-aspies, or non-aspies to meet aspies or aspies to meet aspies?
[12:20] <brobostigon> MooDoo: most i see, are simply very badly designed, and not helpful.
[12:21] <brobostigon> popey: mostly the latter, but all those being a possibility, in my mind,
[12:21] <bashrc> I have tried dating sites, but they all seemed dreadful
[12:21] <brobostigon> exactly bashrc
[12:21] <brobostigon> this is why i said, crucially the design has to be so much better.
[12:22] <MooDoo> brobostigon: so why not knock something up then get your friends/group to review the site, might give you an idea about what's good/bad about it.
[12:23] <bashrc> A site where prospective couples did something together would be better than trying to match supposed personality characteristics
[12:23] <brobostigon> MooDoo: yes, ceretainly, i have already been doing a few design ideas on paper.
[12:24] <brobostigon> bashrc: maybe both those things, can be combined together?
[12:24] <brobostigon> bashrc: but i dont want to do, personality matching, that for people to work out themselves.
[12:25] <brobostigon> in the traditional sense.
[12:26] <bashrc> filling out long questionares is indeed boring
[12:28] <brobostigon> and most people loose patence, and eventually stop filling something in properly, once thats kicks in.
[12:28] <bashrc> Ubuntu Touch dating app for geeks?
[12:29] <brobostigon> html5, so works on any platform, not just ubuntu.
[13:09] <foobarry> http://www.slate.com/blogs/atlas_obscura/2014/03/27/ta_prohm_temple_in_siem_reap_cambodia_hides_a_dinosaur.html
[13:09] <foobarry> great, now i wanna play tomb raider
[13:16] <foobarry> brobostigon: not only dating but social networking in a way that lets u meet new people/aspies
[13:16] <foobarry> so it could have 2 elements to it
[13:17] <brobostigon> yes.
[13:17] <foobarry> since aspies might not want the classic first date
[13:17] <foobarry> but get to know each other virtually first
[13:17] <brobostigon> exactly.
[13:17] <brobostigon> yep.
[13:19] <foobarry> isn't there a popular aspie freenode chan?
[13:19] <foobarry> wrongplanet or something?
[13:20] <brobostigon> popular, yes, useful and helpful, thats up for debate.
[13:20] <foobarry> male/female ratio?
[13:21] <brobostigon> its about 10/1 within asd generally.
[13:21] <foobarry> or should i say does the male female ratio also reflect male-female aspies, since most aspies i know are male and female ones have different traits to men and are actually more sociable
[13:26] <foobarry> now you need a cool name
[13:26] <MartijnVdS> aspies4life
[13:26] <foobarry> my site for obese people called blubr didn't go down well
[13:26] <MartijnVdS> ಠ_ಠ
[13:27] <foobarry> :D
[13:27] <foobarry> aspies4wife
[13:27] <brobostigon> i just need to work out basic design and features now, and how to design it.
[13:27] <bigcalm> I would have thought that was for people who want to have a cry
[13:27] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: nah that discounts same-sex relationships
[13:28] <foobarry> MartijnVdS: the lesbian couple a few doors down from me refers to her partner as her husband
[13:28]  * foobarry was not serious suggestion
[13:36] <brobostigon> i could use something like drupal to make my life easier, then use jabber as the backend for the chat side.
[13:36] <MattJ> Jabber \o/
[13:36] <brobostigon> xmpp*
[13:36] <MattJ> XMPP \o/
[13:36] <brobostigon> lol
[13:38] <MattJ> I'm lacking context, but for XMPP chat in web apps both https://conversejs.org/ and https://mini.jappix.com/ are good options
[13:39] <brobostigon> ty,
[13:40] <MattJ> or for more of a full-page groupchat style, Candy: https://candy-chat.github.io/candy/
[14:07] <bashrc> XMPP ftw
[14:07] <MartijnVdS> even my remote uses it
[14:07] <bashrc> XMPP + OTR
[14:07] <MattJ> :)
[14:07] <MartijnVdS> bashrc: https://github.com/jterrace/pyharmony/blob/master/PROTOCOL.md
[14:08] <bashrc> which reminds me, I think the default Ubuntu chat client should be OTR enabled by default
[14:12] <bashrc> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libtelepathy/+bug/296867
[14:12] <foobarry> empathy is still default chat?
[14:12] <foobarry> does it have plugins yet?
[14:12] <bashrc> Yes I think so in 13.10
[14:34] <brobostigon> thats some hail, the size of gravel.
[15:21] <mapp> afternoon
[15:23] <MooDoo> howdy mapp
[15:26] <mapp> hm
[15:26] <mapp> http://www.businessinsider.com/the-rudest-cities-in-the-world-2011-3?fb_action_ids=10152238769001878&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%5B10150414578165391%5D&action_type_map=%5B"og.recommends"%5D&action_ref_map=%5B%5D
[15:26] <mapp> manchester rudest city in the world they claim
[15:26] <ali1234> lolno, london is far worse
[15:27] <mapp> i thought that too
[15:27] <mapp> but who knows
[15:27] <mapp> and how can you measure it
[15:29] <ali1234> well i lived in manchester for like 10 years
[15:29] <ali1234> met more rude people in london in about 10 days
[15:30] <mapp> but yea thats one persons experience
[15:30] <mapp> hard to reliably measure something like that really
[15:30] <mapp> this bbc death row series is quite interesting
[15:57] <foobarry> east london is the most rude place i ever been to
[15:58] <foobarry> people shove you to get on the tube even when you are clearly trying to get off, thats why you are in the doorwy
[16:00] <mapp> yea
[16:00] <mapp> south londons ony part i like
[16:01] <mapp> cant find any cheap cheap hotels...i dontwanna have to leave befoe the end of spurs game
[16:01] <mapp> ;/
[16:42] <awilkins> Would it be insane to make a VFS layer for dconf?
[16:42] <awilkins> Like the VFS layer that Powershell has for the Windows Registry
[16:42] <awilkins> Then you could hack around with dconf settings using normal file system tools
[16:43] <awilkins> Just thinking of cases where there is a setting you wish to manipulate but there is no (no-generic) GUI to manipulate it
[17:27] <daftykins> wow, Lenovo refuse to sell to the Channel Islands
[17:27] <daftykins> (as in their online store)
[17:28] <brobostigon> :(
[17:28] <brobostigon> thinkpad purchase?
[17:28] <daftykins> nah got a main unit for a client through dabs.com already - just want a second mains adapter now
[17:28] <brobostigon> ah.
[17:29] <daftykins> gonna pick up a mini DP to HDMI adapter as well so he can hook it up on his boat, but of course that's more mainstream an accessory i can obtain elsewhere
[17:31] <daftykins> ah excellent they're on amazon \o/
[17:38] <mapp> howcome daftykins
[17:39] <mapp> surely dhl or fedex ship evrywhere why would someone not shi to cannel islands
[17:39] <mapp> channel
[17:42] <daftykins> i think the Lenovo store are just *expletives* to be honest
[17:42] <daftykins> we get some of these kinds of retailers or etailers sometimes that just refuse to deal with us because it involves actually thinking
[17:46] <avrono> #stripe
[17:49] <daftykins> #spot
[17:49] <mapp> ;]
[17:53] <mapp> so where are you .jersey?
[17:53] <daftykins> Guernsey
[18:19] <bigcalm> popey: did you have to do anything funky with your router to get SIP working correctly?
[18:40] <popey> bigcalm: i had to switch it to modem only mode, yes
[18:41] <bigcalm> No, I mean your router, not modem.
[18:41] <popey> no
[18:41] <bigcalm> I'm reading up on SIP not playing nicely with NAT
[18:41] <bigcalm> Okay :)
[18:41] <popey> wfm
[18:42]  * popey goes to get chinese takeaway
[18:43] <daftykins> mmm chinese
[18:43] <daftykins> tempting but i should use my mince today
[18:47] <bigcalm> I might do a pizza run
[18:50]  * bigcalm blames popey
[18:51] <daftykins> ;)
[18:51] <daftykins> a local affair or a chain?
[18:52] <bigcalm> We don't have any independent pizza places near by. Places that do do pizza are all the same and mostly base :(
[18:52] <bigcalm> So will likely drive to pizzahut or dominos
[19:01]  * bigcalm looks at the cheese burger pizza in bewilderment
[19:02] <daftykins> i remember being horrified at how much dominoes costs
[19:02] <daftykins> (we don't have any pizza chains over here)
[19:03] <bigcalm> I wish we lived closer to ASK or Pizza Express
[19:03] <bigcalm> Those are damn fine foods
[19:06] <ali1234> bug 1248948
[19:07] <daftykins> haha
[19:07] <daftykins> that's not a good bug
[19:08] <ali1234> don't worry, i alread fixed it
[19:09] <ali1234> bug 1256150 is same bug
[19:10] <ali1234> needs testing for saucy-sru by the looks of it
[20:11] <mapps> ugh
[20:11] <mapps> thunder/lightning and lotsa rain..got stuck in it
[20:19] <MartijnVdS> mapps: very very frightening?
[20:35] <DJones> Galilo, Galileo
[20:35]  * popey does the fandago
[20:36] <DJones> Magnifico :)
[20:57] <mapps> yes
[20:58] <mapps> i was very scared MartijnVdS
[20:58] <mapps> :P
[20:58] <mapps> not really..but getting soaked isnt ideal
[21:35] <bigcalm> popey: I had pizza. I regretted it
[21:35] <bigcalm> popey: you are to blame :P
[21:37] <popey> i had chinese
[21:37] <popey> way too much, loads of left-overs
[21:37] <bigcalm> I should have gone that route as well
[21:39] <bigcalm> At 11%, think I'll have just the one beer tonight
[21:46] <foobarry> anyone recommend a good budget camcorder?
[21:47] <ali1234> how much do you want to spend?
[21:47] <ali1234> and what do you want to use it for?
[21:48] <foobarry> miscellaneous, including youtube quality vids, with internal mic
[21:48] <foobarry> HD is nice
[21:48] <ali1234> a good quality web cam will serve you better than a cheap camcorder if you want to make youtube videos - and also be cheaper
[22:23] <maps|wrk> hello
[23:41] <diddledan> morning
[23:41] <daftykins> hi
[23:42] <dwatkins>  lo
[23:42] <diddledan> heh: http://i.imgur.com/oXQgLWk.jpg
[23:43] <dwatkins> no surprise, I think I know one or two people who use bing
[23:43] <diddledan> I think they must be the blip from 2009
[23:43] <dwatkins> is that the numbers for people searching Google for 'yahoo', 'google' or 'bing', though?
[23:43] <diddledan> donno
[23:44] <dwatkins> everyone knows that searching google for 'google' can break the internet.
[23:44] <ali1234> "news reference volume"
[23:52] <Azelphur> does anyone know any decent video editors? I tried avidemux but it crashes reproducibly all the time.
[23:53] <Azelphur> I got bored of avidemux once I hit 3 bugs (2 of which are crash bugs)
[23:56] <ali1234> blender
[23:57] <ali1234> but it depends what you are trying to do
[23:57] <Azelphur> ali1234: cut, paste. That's literally all I need
[23:58] <ali1234> blender is comparable to after effects... although far far harder to use
[23:58] <ali1234> how many cuts do you want to make?
[23:58] <Azelphur> 1 xD
[23:58] <ali1234> then you don't want a video editor
[23:58] <Azelphur> I could do it with ffmpeg in all honesty but ffmpeg doesn't seem to like the video file
[23:58] <ali1234> just use ffmpeg/avconv
[23:58] <ali1234> if ffmpeg doesn't like the video then no video editor will play it either
[23:58] <ali1234> convert it first
[23:59] <ali1234> they all use ffmpeg/libav internally anyway
[23:59] <Azelphur> all video players play it, it's a standard avi, ffmpeg has problems with things all the time where it refuses to convert things
[23:59] <ali1234> there is no such thing as a standard avi
[23:59] <Azelphur> oh hey I got it to work, passed it -acodec copy and it was happier.
[23:59] <ali1234> figures