[09:15] <rmg51> Morning
[11:53] <jedijf> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2014/03/28/ubuntu-14-04-lts-trusty-tahr-final-beta-released/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=ubuntu-14-04-lts-trusty-tahr-final-beta-released
[11:53] <jedijf> Update from fridge: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Final Beta released
[12:13] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys, hamsters and everything else
[12:55] <ChinnoDog> morning
[16:30] <pvl1> morning
[16:37] <lazyPower> o/ everyone
[16:38] <JonathanD> hi
[16:40] <pvl1> how are you lazyPower
[16:40] <lazyPower> I'm doing well. Gearing up for a sprint in DC next week and a presentation at CMU on Friday
[16:41] <lazyPower> next week is going to be busy
[16:41] <lazyPower> How about you pvl1?
[16:48] <pvl1> oi im sick
[16:48] <pvl1> caught the current filly plauge
[16:48] <pvl1> (spelling?)
[18:25] <InHisName> Hey I just got something from FreedomPop  it is WiFi/WiMAX with a USB cable.   Is there a way to hook the USB to Ubuntu and see if I can access the internet via that dongle ?   If I could make an active connection via ifconfig, that would offer a bunch of possibilities.
[18:28] <pvl1> should work InHisName
[18:29] <InHisName> I'm ready to implement commands.  Just don't know what to activate so I can see "ifconfig usb0"
[18:31] <pvl1> ah
[18:31] <pvl1> well first and foremost
[18:31] <pvl1> what does dmesg | tail give you
[18:32] <InHisName> one web site uses terms like "gadget USB" to install.  Not real interested in adding software if I can help it.
[18:32] <pvl1> i doubt you need to
[18:32] <pvl1> as long as the kernel recognizes the module
[18:32] <pvl1> you would just need to adjust your /etc/network/interfaces file
[18:33] <InHisName> OK, I'll go try some stuff and be back in a bit.
[18:35] <InHisName> found USB using uhci_HCD  { or similar}
[18:35] <InHisName> was in dmesg
[18:37] <pvl1> sounds like it recognized it
[18:37] <pvl1> lsusb
[18:39] <InHisName> lsusb <-- command not found.      (is old linux on old laptop)
[18:39] <pvl1> ah
[18:39] <pvl1> well
[18:39] <pvl1> lets give it a shot
[18:39] <InHisName> bang
[18:39] <pvl1> sudo ifconfig usb0 up && sudo dhclient -v usb0
[18:40] <InHisName> ok, off to try
[18:49] <InHisName> Grrr, can't remember the pwd for sudo/root
[18:52] <pvl1> boot up in recovery
[18:52] <InHisName> And then ?
[18:53] <InHisName> don't I still need root pwd ?
[18:55] <jedijf> InHisName: Append init=/bin/bash at the end of line in grub
[18:56] <pvl1> jedijf: wow i would have never thought of that
[18:56] <jedijf> then change passwd and try to remember it
[19:07] <InHisName> Booting up in PCLinuxOS failsafe
[19:08] <InHisName> last 2 lines show:   ACPI: PCI INterrupt:   setups.   then seems to hang there.
[19:15] <jedijf> hah, i should have read backlog ....tail -f /var/log/syslog is your friend....when booted - then plug in usb device and watch
[19:16] <jedijf> your answers will be revealed...or not...which is an answer
[19:54] <InHisName> Now can't boot at all with any of the three partitions.   WinXP,  Ubuntu 9.x, PCLinuxOS  all start for a few seconds then hang and make NO more progress at booting up.   Uggghhhh !
[19:55] <InHisName> I unplugged the USB dongle thingy and tried all three again.  NO change. Fooey
[19:57] <pvl1> how far does boot process get
[19:59] <InHisName> 2 to 5 seconds into it.      Windows XP  three swipes with blue thing, then runs off and no more.
[19:59] <pvl1> so grub is working yes
[20:00] <InHisName> PCLinuxOS  has graphic similar to winxp with moving bauble.   No bauble even starts on that one.
[20:00] <pvl1> InHisName: try to custom boot pclinuxos, and take away quiet splash
[20:00] <InHisName> Yes grub works and starts the partition for a few seconds.  Then it freezes.
[20:01] <InHisName> Ok,  off to try
[20:01] <InHisName> got 17 minuts left till sch bus comes.  Then done til 9pm
[20:05] <InHisName> PCLinuxOS with splash off, hangs right after the same 2 lines that Ubuntu shows and hangs at.
[20:05] <pvl1> jeez what did you do
[20:05] <InHisName> Both OSes   ---  >   last 2 lines show:   ACPI: PCI INterrupt:   setups.   then seems to hang there.
[20:06] <InHisName> Don't know.
[20:06] <pvl1> at this point, i would reset bios settings, and pull battery. press and hold power button. let everything flush out
[20:07] <InHisName> I may have allterd som things in pclinusos, but how to affect 2 other partitions that used to boot in 2010.
[20:08] <pvl1> what did you change in grub
[20:09] <InHisName> Bios battery is dead, now.  I'm running with default.  PCLinuxOS did come up 3X with the dead bios battery this year.
[20:10] <InHisName> Aren't the grub changes temporary for ONE boot normally ?
[20:11] <pvl1> not that i think so
[20:12] <InHisName> the /init=/bin/bash   that I added once ,   was gone next time I booted and checked.  It was back to original.
[20:21] <InHisName> b bak at 9
[20:52] <jedijf> es those changes are temporary - only permanent with a menu.lst or /etc/default/grub(grub2) edit and then a sudo update-grub
[20:52] <jedijf> yes those changes...^
[20:53] <jedijf> so if you get it right, make it right, permanently, or at least for the next 4 years
[20:54] <jedijf> InHisName: wrong date is the fail - that's the boot fail if cmos is dead - go to bios set right, or close date, save changes, reboot - it should boot like 2010
[20:54] <jedijf> in my experience
[20:55] <jedijf> order cmos battery