/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/03/28/#ubuntu-za.txt

nuvolariMaaz: tell kilos pong!05:15
Maaznuvolari: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode05:15
Trixar_zaOh hai nuvolari05:28
Trixar_zaMaaz: tell kilos pong!!05:28
MaazTrixar_za: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode05:28
inetprogood mornings06:00
Trixar_zaMorning inetpro06:01
inetprohello Trixar_za06:05
Kilosmorning Trixar_za  nuvolari  06:07
Kiloshi jabberwocky93  Spekko  06:07
SpekkoMorning Kilos06:08
SpekkoMaaz: Coffee on06:08
* Maaz washes some mugs06:08
KilosMaaz  coffee please06:08
MaazKilos: Righto06:08
jabberwocky93morning Kilos06:08
jabberwocky93coffee!06:08
MaazCoffee's ready for Spekko and Kilos!06:12
KilosMaaz  ty06:13
MaazYou are welcome Kilos06:13
Trixar_zaMorning Kilos06:17
Kiloshow is the new sakis going Trixar_za  ?06:17
Trixar_zaNot great06:21
Squirmmorning all06:28
SquirmMaaz: coffee on06:28
* Maaz puts the kettle on06:28
SquirmMaaz: larges06:28
MaazSquirm: What?06:28
SquirmMaaz: largest06:28
MaazWhew do you want a bath full Squirm?06:28
SquirmMaaz: botsnack06:29
MaazThank you thank you, munch munch chomp chomp06:29
Kiloshi Squirm  mazal  06:32
mazalMore oom06:32
MaazCoffee's ready for Squirm!06:32
bduk1Moore almal06:34
mazalMore oom barry06:35
bduk1Eks nie met jou tannie getroud nie06:35
Kiloshi bduk1  06:47
Kiloshaha ek sal dit onthou06:47
Trixar_zawat07:02
Trixar_zaI holy hate you Ubuntu07:02
Trixar_zaIt needs -lusb at the end before it can compile07:03
* Trixar_za facepalms07:03
Trixar_zaAnd it works07:08
Trixar_zaLeave it to Ubuntu to add a step07:08
Kilosai!07:09
Vince-0g'day g'day07:15
Kiloshi Vince-0  07:16
Trixar_zaKilos: Works now with the latest usb_modeswitch07:36
Trixar_zastill have to test the database though...07:36
Kiloscool07:36
Vince-0Haai07:37
Trixar_zabrb07:39
Trixar_zaWell, that's unexpected07:43
Trixar_zaIt's working07:43
Trixar_zaWith the latest binary and database07:43
Trixar_zaI even purged usb_modeswitch and usb_modeswitch-data to be sure07:44
Kilosyay07:45
Kiloscan you stop it asking that APN_USER and APN_PASS07:46
Trixar_zaIt normally doesn't?07:50
Kilosoh is that only when running from desktop07:52
Trixar_zaKilos: http://trixarian.net/sakis3g.gz07:53
Trixar_zaTry it out07:53
Kiloswill do ty07:53
Golynxhi magespawn08:02
magespawnhi Golynx 08:02
Golynxo/08:02
Kiloshi not_found  08:12
not_foundmorning uncle Kilos08:12
GolynxKilos ?08:16
not_found!objection08:16
Kilosoh my08:17
Kiloshi magespawn  Golynx  08:17
Kilosi typed it in but didnt show here08:18
Kilossorry08:18
Kilosoh my08:19
not_foundbye08:20
not_foundGolynx08:20
Kiloswonder what happened to him08:24
Kiloscellc got him08:24
not_foundThe ways of the Interwebs are mysterious08:24
charl_good morning08:34
charl_Maaz: coffee on08:34
* Maaz flips the salt-timer08:34
Kiloshi charl_  08:34
charl_hi Kilos :)08:36
charl_how's it going this fine morning08:36
Kilosgood ty and you?08:36
charl_i'm great thanks08:36
MaazCoffee's ready for charl_!08:38
charl_Maaz: thanks08:38
Maazcharl_: No problem08:38
Trixar_zabrb08:50
magespawnback again.hi all09:23
Kiloswb magespawn  09:23
Trixar_zaKilos: Seems I was wrong09:31
Kiloswhat Trixar_za  ?09:34
Trixar_zaIt doesn't switch modems with the latest database and usb_modeswitch unaltered09:36
Kilosoh my09:41
Kilosi actually had a modeswitch ppa somewhere i think09:45
Kilosthey called repack09:47
Kilos2 packages, you want them09:47
Trixar_zaNo09:48
Trixar_zaBut by the looks of it09:48
Trixar_zaI only need to add a single line to each of the files to make the device switch09:49
Trixar_zaDownside: 350+ files09:49
Kiloswhew09:49
Kilosi even have the nm ppa09:49
Kiloshehe i struggled with this dlink09:50
Trixar_zaYeah, looks like modem-manager fights with sakis3g too09:50
Trixar_zaSo NetworkManager can be a pain :P09:50
Kilosbut my old sakis switches it then with 2 modems plugged in all of a sardine nm sees the dlink too09:50
Kilosyeah you need to kill networking in nm09:51
Kilosuntick09:51
Trixar_zaI also noticed a bug in sakis3g - it's zenity interface doesn't quit09:51
Kilosthen after doing the sakis bit you retick nm09:51
Kilosnm works great with recognised modems09:52
Kiloswill still look at connman to one day09:53
Trixar_zaGoing to reboot and try something09:54
Trixar_za:P09:54
kbmonkeyhello hello10:02
Kiloshi kbmonkey  10:03
kbmonkeyhow goes it Kilos 10:06
Kilosgood ty kbmonkey  and you?10:07
kbmonkeygood ty Kilos 10:08
Kilos-hmm...11:26
=== Kilos- is now known as Kilos
kbmonkeywb Kilos 11:32
Kilosty kbmonkey  11:32
kbmonkeyor... goodbye?11:32
kbmonkeywhy were you on twice?11:32
Kilosi did a reinstall of modem-manager stuff and it disconnected me11:33
Kiloswell kilos- came in before kilos timed out11:33
Kiloshi Xethron  11:34
kbmonkeyso it was a ghost11:34
Kilosya11:34
Kilosi just told it /nick its me dammit11:34
kbmonkeylol11:35
Kilosah Trixar_za  you getting help12:04
Kilosi see #6 and #3 stuff12:05
Kiloswhatever that might be12:05
Kiloshi Rynofear  12:39
Kilosoops frightened hi away12:39
Kiloshim12:39
kbmonkeyno man Kilos you can't scare our members like that. put away that tyre iron man.13:02
kbmonkey;D13:02
Golynxhey kbmonkey13:02
kbmonkeyhi Golynx 13:03
kbmonkeyeverybody left work I am the only one left13:03
GolynxSeems like facebook wana bring free internet via drones and satelites to the world aswell :-/ http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/27/facebook-drones/?utm_campaign=fb&ncid=fb13:08
kbmonkeysounds like a spying infrastructure. where is my tinfoil hat gone to...?13:11
Golynxlol13:14
Golynxgoogle and some other non-profit organization is doing the same13:14
kbmonkeyyeah right, just like how google wanted to provide free wireless with their sewage-system hotspots?13:16
kbmonkeyhttp://www.google.com/tisp/13:16
Golynxhehe, "This site is an old friend from Google's past, kept in its original form. Enjoy!" 13:18
GolynxMaybe the internet via weather balloons will turn out better 13:19
kbmonkeyclick "get started" and check out the pics :D13:19
Golynxlol :D13:21
Golynxglad they "flushed" that idea13:21
kbmonkeybwha ha ha13:22
kbmonkeyclocking out of work, will be back later... xD13:31
Kilosho Golynx  13:44
Golynxhi Kilos13:45
magespawnlate all home time14:06
Kilostoods magespawn  14:06
Kiloswbb14:34
=== Rynofear is now known as Rynomster
captinehi all17:36
Kiloshi captine  did you get the message17:36
Kilosfrom the bot that is17:37
Kilosevening superfly  17:38
superflyhi Kilos17:38
captineyes17:38
captinegot it17:38
captinethanks17:38
Kiloscool17:38
captinepretty cool how that works.  i am not too clued up on IRC and all the functions.  find this maaz bot interesting17:39
Kilosyou okes that visit here now and again17:39
Kilosits easy17:39
Kilosall in commands17:39
captinewas very excited to hear system76 are now shipping to South Africa... downside is the shipping charge for a desktop is $500.  + customs is needed so way to pricey to bring them in17:39
Kilosto leave a message you type in maaz tell NIck the message17:40
captinecool17:40
captinegood to know.17:40
Kiloswow 500 dollars per pc17:40
Kilosi built mine for 1/2 of that17:41
captineyip.  thats just shipping17:41
captinei am trying to build a nas at the moment.  just trying to find budget for hard drives17:41
captinestuff is sooo expensive here17:41
Kiloswhere have you looked17:42
captinesybaritic17:48
captinealso looking on loot.co.za as I have discovery miles to spend17:49
captinewanted to run freenas with zfs... but zfs recommends ecc memory and getting an intel that supports that is very expensive...  need a xeon and i cannot find low powered zeons online17:49
Kiloslemme just look at the place where i got my pc stuff from17:53
Kilosthey were cheapest in za when i looked17:53
superflyI'm currently looking at buying a Mac Mini... in the US, it's $599, in South Africa it's $799 (well, R7999)18:00
Kilosouch18:01
Kilosget someone to bring one out for you superfly  18:03
Kilosoh its about R1000 more expensive here. so thats shipping costs18:04
captinesuperfly, what u wanting to do with it?18:05
captinei have a 2012 mac mini server 18:05
captinerun some ubuntu vm's on it and normally use it plugged into my tv for media18:06
superflyKilos: no, it's more like R2000 more expensive18:06
Kilosoh isnt exchange around 10 to i18:06
Kilos118:06
superflycaptine: one of the open source projects I work on has been given money toward a Mac Mini in order to improve our OS X support18:07
Kiloswell for 2k try get someone to bring one18:07
captinecool18:07
superflycaptine: so I'm pricing things (as much as you can price Apple products)18:07
captinewhich project you working on superfly 18:07
superflyKilos: yes, but 799 - 599 = 20018:07
superflycaptine: it's called OpenLP18:07
captineI hear you on the pricing.  Got mine in Hong Kong when I lived in asia18:07
captineOpenLP.. thats the software for churches etc to display words right18:08
superflyyes, that's the one18:08
Kiloshmm...18:08
captineawesome18:08
captineI used it a bit for fiddling as the paid products are very expensive18:08
superflyI can also get a non-Apple bluetooth keyboard for the same price as a bona-fide Apple WIRED keyboard18:08
superflycaptine: yeah, most of them are $40018:08
captinewow18:09
captinethat is good on the bluetooth18:09
captinedont go for the trackpad.  i got one.  nice for when in the tv, but not great if using the mini for normal computing etv18:09
captineetc18:10
superflyI've got another mouse here ,I'll just use a normal one18:17
superflyI specifically wanted a Mac keyboard, cause using a PC keyboard with a Mac is just plain confusing (I've done it before)18:17
Kilossjoe18:18
Kiloswhy they want mac superfly  ?18:19
Kilosoh you said for support18:19
superflyKilos: cause OpenLP runs on Linux, Windows, OS X, FreeBSD18:19
superfly(and anything else that can run Python and Qt)18:19
Kilosok18:19
superflyand while we have Linux and Windows developers, we don't have anyone specifically on Mac18:20
kbmonkeyhello hello18:27
psydroidhi captine 18:28
psydroidhi Kilos 18:28
psydroidhi superfly 18:28
psydroidhi kbmonkey 18:28
Kiloshi psydroid  18:28
Kiloswb kbmonkey  18:28
kbmonkeyty!18:28
kbmonkeyI got most of my stuff packed. mover coming 7:30. weee18:29
kbmonkeyhopefully be done before it gets hot :]18:29
Kiloshope all goes well18:29
superflywhere you moving to kbmonkey?18:30
captinehi psydroid 18:30
kbmonkeyty Kilos - I feel good about it. its the unpacking I dont like ;)18:30
Kilosyeah one always leaves something packet forever18:30
kbmonkeyjust across the city superfly, essenwood I think the area is 18:31
kbmonkeyoh no, I purge stuff on each move, am pro at this now18:31
Kiloslol18:31
superflykbmonkey: sorry, which city? durbs?18:32
kbmonkeyyes durbs18:32
superflyfound it on gmaps :-)18:32
kbmonkeylinux voice issue 2 is out already, wow I need to catch up on my reading!18:40
kbmonkeyI am impressed with claws-mail, seriously.18:42
Kiloswhats impressive?18:43
kbmonkeyclaws mail client18:44
Kilosya but what can it do that evolution cant18:44
Kilosapart from speed maybe18:44
kbmonkeyit is fully keyboard friendly, nice gpg integration, easily manage multiple mailboxes. still learning it...18:45
Kiloshi Iraeeu  18:46
kbmonkeyhas nice pre-and post-processing rules tooo - imap and local side.18:46
Kilospop318:46
kbmonkeythat is local18:46
Kilosi like my new mails coming here on their own18:47
IraeeuHey Kilos, how come you are always on here? and so fast at saying hello all the time 18:47
Kilosand evo has built in backup tool18:47
kbmonkeyhi Iraeeu 18:47
KilosIraeeu  im the greeter bot18:47
kbmonkeybecause Kilos is pro18:47
Iraeeulol18:48
kbmonkeyhe sees irc like neo sees the matrix18:48
Kiloshehe18:48
IraeeuAre any of you trying out 14 beta?18:48
Kilosloved those movies18:48
Kilosya neil is but he aint on tonight18:49
kbmonkeyclassic theme18:49
Kiloshave you tried in Iraeeu  18:49
Kilosit18:49
IraeeuI am thinking about it, might try it on vagrant first18:50
Kilosneil said it runs well in kde flavour. not sure what he said about unity anymore18:50
Kiloshe is a distro hopper18:51
IraeeuI don't plan on using the gui so it doens't really matter 18:51
Kilosserver?18:51
Iraeeuyea, how about elementary os - have you tried that out?18:52
Kilosor custom gui18:52
Iraeeuserver18:52
Kiloswhew you wanna try a beta on your server or just to play around with18:53
IraeeuVagrant doens't work with gui tho, but I have like 3 ubuntu servers running at the same time for web development. Interested in seeing what breaking changes come with 14 lts. 18:54
kbmonkeyhey I have data left before the month runs out18:54
Kilosah so to test first of all18:54
Iraeeuyea18:54
captinehavent run 14.. but will upgrade desktop when it is released and server when the first point release come18:55
Kilosi will see how data looks when it is released18:57
Kilosthey normally do lotsa work in the last few weeks18:57
kbmonkeytrue18:58
KilosIraeeu  what os do you work on the servers with18:58
superflywill probably upgrade my work machine on Monday18:58
Iraeeu12 lts 18:58
superflymy desktop at home (this machine) runs Debian unstable18:58
Kilosah 12.0418:58
IraeeuIs any of the ubuntu dev even done in south afria? I only know about a canonical office in london...18:59
kbmonkeyI want to switch to rolling release, my window manager stopped compiling from needed dependencies :p18:59
Kilosthe weed is one of the dev guys18:59
Iraeeucool18:59
superflyIraeeu: none at all18:59
superflyKilos: he's not an Ubuntu developer in the sense that he works on Mir or Unity19:00
Kiloswhat does he work on superfly  19:00
Kiloshe has told me but i forget19:01
superflyKilos: some of the packages19:01
Kilosarent they all split up with different packages19:01
Kiloslike the network manager group19:02
superflyKilos: yes. he mostly deals with Python-related packages19:03
Kilosty19:04
Kilosdrussell  what packages are you involved with19:08
Kilosevening too19:08
kbmonkeywell Im off, chat tomorrow!19:08
Kilosnight my monkey19:11
Kiloshave a good day tomorrow19:11
Kilosnight all. sleep tight. see Iraeeu  im not always here19:15
Kiloshehe19:15

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