[05:15] <nuvolari> Maaz: tell kilos pong!
[05:15] <Maaz> nuvolari: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[05:28] <Trixar_za> Oh hai nuvolari
[05:28] <Trixar_za> Maaz: tell kilos pong!!
[05:28] <Maaz> Trixar_za: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[06:00] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:01] <Trixar_za> Morning inetpro
[06:05] <inetpro> hello Trixar_za
[06:07] <Kilos> morning Trixar_za  nuvolari  
[06:07] <Kilos> hi jabberwocky93  Spekko  
[06:08] <Spekko> Morning Kilos
[06:08] <Spekko> Maaz: Coffee on
[06:08]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[06:08] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee please
[06:08] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto
[06:08] <jabberwocky93> morning Kilos
[06:08] <jabberwocky93> coffee!
[06:12] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Spekko and Kilos!
[06:13] <Kilos> Maaz  ty
[06:13] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[06:17] <Trixar_za> Morning Kilos
[06:17] <Kilos> how is the new sakis going Trixar_za  ?
[06:21] <Trixar_za> Not great
[06:28] <Squirm> morning all
[06:28] <Squirm> Maaz: coffee on
[06:28]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[06:28] <Squirm> Maaz: larges
[06:28] <Maaz> Squirm: What?
[06:28] <Squirm> Maaz: largest
[06:28] <Maaz> Whew do you want a bath full Squirm?
[06:29] <Squirm> Maaz: botsnack
[06:29] <Maaz> Thank you thank you, munch munch chomp chomp
[06:32] <Kilos> hi Squirm  mazal  
[06:32] <mazal> More oom
[06:32] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Squirm!
[06:34] <bduk1> Moore almal
[06:35] <mazal> More oom barry
[06:35] <bduk1> Eks nie met jou tannie getroud nie
[06:47] <Kilos> hi bduk1  
[06:47] <Kilos> haha ek sal dit onthou
[07:02] <Trixar_za> wat
[07:02] <Trixar_za> I holy hate you Ubuntu
[07:03] <Trixar_za> It needs -lusb at the end before it can compile
[07:03]  * Trixar_za facepalms
[07:08] <Trixar_za> And it works
[07:08] <Trixar_za> Leave it to Ubuntu to add a step
[07:09] <Kilos> ai!
[07:15] <Vince-0> g'day g'day
[07:16] <Kilos> hi Vince-0  
[07:36] <Trixar_za> Kilos: Works now with the latest usb_modeswitch
[07:36] <Trixar_za> still have to test the database though...
[07:36] <Kilos> cool
[07:37] <Vince-0> Haai
[07:39] <Trixar_za> brb
[07:43] <Trixar_za> Well, that's unexpected
[07:43] <Trixar_za> It's working
[07:43] <Trixar_za> With the latest binary and database
[07:44] <Trixar_za> I even purged usb_modeswitch and usb_modeswitch-data to be sure
[07:45] <Kilos> yay
[07:46] <Kilos> can you stop it asking that APN_USER and APN_PASS
[07:50] <Trixar_za> It normally doesn't?
[07:52] <Kilos> oh is that only when running from desktop
[07:53] <Trixar_za> Kilos: http://trixarian.net/sakis3g.gz
[07:53] <Trixar_za> Try it out
[07:53] <Kilos> will do ty
[08:02] <Golynx> hi magespawn
[08:02] <magespawn> hi Golynx 
[08:02] <Golynx> o/
[08:12] <Kilos> hi not_found  
[08:12] <not_found> morning uncle Kilos
[08:16] <Golynx> Kilos ?
[08:16] <not_found> !objection
[08:17] <Kilos> oh my
[08:17] <Kilos> hi magespawn  Golynx  
[08:18] <Kilos> i typed it in but didnt show here
[08:18] <Kilos> sorry
[08:19] <Kilos> oh my
[08:20] <not_found> bye
[08:20] <not_found> Golynx
[08:24] <Kilos> wonder what happened to him
[08:24] <Kilos> cellc got him
[08:24] <not_found> The ways of the Interwebs are mysterious
[08:34] <charl_> good morning
[08:34] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[08:34]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[08:34] <Kilos> hi charl_  
[08:36] <charl_> hi Kilos :)
[08:36] <charl_> how's it going this fine morning
[08:36] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[08:36] <charl_> i'm great thanks
[08:38] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[08:38] <charl_> Maaz: thanks
[08:38] <Maaz> charl_: No problem
[08:50] <Trixar_za> brb
[09:23] <magespawn> back again.hi all
[09:23] <Kilos> wb magespawn  
[09:31] <Trixar_za> Kilos: Seems I was wrong
[09:34] <Kilos> what Trixar_za  ?
[09:36] <Trixar_za> It doesn't switch modems with the latest database and usb_modeswitch unaltered
[09:41] <Kilos> oh my
[09:45] <Kilos> i actually had a modeswitch ppa somewhere i think
[09:47] <Kilos> they called repack
[09:47] <Kilos> 2 packages, you want them
[09:48] <Trixar_za> No
[09:48] <Trixar_za> But by the looks of it
[09:49] <Trixar_za> I only need to add a single line to each of the files to make the device switch
[09:49] <Trixar_za> Downside: 350+ files
[09:49] <Kilos> whew
[09:49] <Kilos> i even have the nm ppa
[09:50] <Kilos> hehe i struggled with this dlink
[09:50] <Trixar_za> Yeah, looks like modem-manager fights with sakis3g too
[09:50] <Trixar_za> So NetworkManager can be a pain :P
[09:50] <Kilos> but my old sakis switches it then with 2 modems plugged in all of a sardine nm sees the dlink too
[09:51] <Kilos> yeah you need to kill networking in nm
[09:51] <Kilos> untick
[09:51] <Trixar_za> I also noticed a bug in sakis3g - it's zenity interface doesn't quit
[09:51] <Kilos> then after doing the sakis bit you retick nm
[09:52] <Kilos> nm works great with recognised modems
[09:53] <Kilos> will still look at connman to one day
[09:54] <Trixar_za> Going to reboot and try something
[09:54] <Trixar_za> :P
[10:02] <kbmonkey> hello hello
[10:03] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey  
[10:06] <kbmonkey> how goes it Kilos 
[10:07] <Kilos> good ty kbmonkey  and you?
[10:08] <kbmonkey> good ty Kilos 
[11:26] <Kilos-> hmm...
[11:32] <kbmonkey> wb Kilos 
[11:32] <Kilos> ty kbmonkey  
[11:32] <kbmonkey> or... goodbye?
[11:32] <kbmonkey> why were you on twice?
[11:33] <Kilos> i did a reinstall of modem-manager stuff and it disconnected me
[11:33] <Kilos> well kilos- came in before kilos timed out
[11:34] <Kilos> hi Xethron  
[11:34] <kbmonkey> so it was a ghost
[11:34] <Kilos> ya
[11:34] <Kilos> i just told it /nick its me dammit
[11:35] <kbmonkey> lol
[12:04] <Kilos> ah Trixar_za  you getting help
[12:05] <Kilos> i see #6 and #3 stuff
[12:05] <Kilos> whatever that might be
[12:39] <Kilos> hi Rynofear  
[12:39] <Kilos> oops frightened hi away
[12:39] <Kilos> him
[13:02] <kbmonkey> no man Kilos you can't scare our members like that. put away that tyre iron man.
[13:02] <kbmonkey> ;D
[13:02] <Golynx> hey kbmonkey
[13:03] <kbmonkey> hi Golynx 
[13:03] <kbmonkey> everybody left work I am the only one left
[13:08] <Golynx> Seems like facebook wana bring free internet via drones and satelites to the world aswell :-/ http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/27/facebook-drones/?utm_campaign=fb&ncid=fb
[13:11] <kbmonkey> sounds like a spying infrastructure. where is my tinfoil hat gone to...?
[13:14] <Golynx> lol
[13:14] <Golynx> google and some other non-profit organization is doing the same
[13:16] <kbmonkey> yeah right, just like how google wanted to provide free wireless with their sewage-system hotspots?
[13:16] <kbmonkey> http://www.google.com/tisp/
[13:18] <Golynx> hehe, "This site is an old friend from Google's past, kept in its original form. Enjoy!" 
[13:19] <Golynx> Maybe the internet via weather balloons will turn out better 
[13:19] <kbmonkey> click "get started" and check out the pics :D
[13:21] <Golynx> lol :D
[13:21] <Golynx> glad they "flushed" that idea
[13:22] <kbmonkey> bwha ha ha
[13:31] <kbmonkey> clocking out of work, will be back later... xD
[13:44] <Kilos> ho Golynx  
[13:45] <Golynx> hi Kilos
[14:06] <magespawn> late all home time
[14:06] <Kilos> toods magespawn  
[14:34] <Kilos> wbb
[17:36] <captine> hi all
[17:36] <Kilos> hi captine  did you get the message
[17:37] <Kilos> from the bot that is
[17:38] <Kilos> evening superfly  
[17:38] <superfly> hi Kilos
[17:38] <captine> yes
[17:38] <captine> got it
[17:38] <captine> thanks
[17:38] <Kilos> cool
[17:39] <captine> pretty cool how that works.  i am not too clued up on IRC and all the functions.  find this maaz bot interesting
[17:39] <Kilos> you okes that visit here now and again
[17:39] <Kilos> its easy
[17:39] <Kilos> all in commands
[17:39] <captine> was very excited to hear system76 are now shipping to South Africa... downside is the shipping charge for a desktop is $500.  + customs is needed so way to pricey to bring them in
[17:40] <Kilos> to leave a message you type in maaz tell NIck the message
[17:40] <captine> cool
[17:40] <captine> good to know.
[17:40] <Kilos> wow 500 dollars per pc
[17:41] <Kilos> i built mine for 1/2 of that
[17:41] <captine> yip.  thats just shipping
[17:41] <captine> i am trying to build a nas at the moment.  just trying to find budget for hard drives
[17:41] <captine> stuff is sooo expensive here
[17:42] <Kilos> where have you looked
[17:48] <captine> sybaritic
[17:49] <captine> also looking on loot.co.za as I have discovery miles to spend
[17:49] <captine> wanted to run freenas with zfs... but zfs recommends ecc memory and getting an intel that supports that is very expensive...  need a xeon and i cannot find low powered zeons online
[17:53] <Kilos> lemme just look at the place where i got my pc stuff from
[17:53] <Kilos> they were cheapest in za when i looked
[18:00] <superfly> I'm currently looking at buying a Mac Mini... in the US, it's $599, in South Africa it's $799 (well, R7999)
[18:01] <Kilos> ouch
[18:03] <Kilos> get someone to bring one out for you superfly  
[18:04] <Kilos> oh its about R1000 more expensive here. so thats shipping costs
[18:05] <captine> superfly, what u wanting to do with it?
[18:05] <captine> i have a 2012 mac mini server 
[18:06] <captine> run some ubuntu vm's on it and normally use it plugged into my tv for media
[18:06] <superfly> Kilos: no, it's more like R2000 more expensive
[18:06] <Kilos> oh isnt exchange around 10 to i
[18:06] <Kilos> 1
[18:07] <superfly> captine: one of the open source projects I work on has been given money toward a Mac Mini in order to improve our OS X support
[18:07] <Kilos> well for 2k try get someone to bring one
[18:07] <captine> cool
[18:07] <superfly> captine: so I'm pricing things (as much as you can price Apple products)
[18:07] <captine> which project you working on superfly 
[18:07] <superfly> Kilos: yes, but 799 - 599 = 200
[18:07] <superfly> captine: it's called OpenLP
[18:07] <captine> I hear you on the pricing.  Got mine in Hong Kong when I lived in asia
[18:08] <captine> OpenLP.. thats the software for churches etc to display words right
[18:08] <superfly> yes, that's the one
[18:08] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:08] <captine> awesome
[18:08] <captine> I used it a bit for fiddling as the paid products are very expensive
[18:08] <superfly> I can also get a non-Apple bluetooth keyboard for the same price as a bona-fide Apple WIRED keyboard
[18:08] <superfly> captine: yeah, most of them are $400
[18:09] <captine> wow
[18:09] <captine> that is good on the bluetooth
[18:09] <captine> dont go for the trackpad.  i got one.  nice for when in the tv, but not great if using the mini for normal computing etv
[18:10] <captine> etc
[18:17] <superfly> I've got another mouse here ,I'll just use a normal one
[18:17] <superfly> I specifically wanted a Mac keyboard, cause using a PC keyboard with a Mac is just plain confusing (I've done it before)
[18:18] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:19] <Kilos> why they want mac superfly  ?
[18:19] <Kilos> oh you said for support
[18:19] <superfly> Kilos: cause OpenLP runs on Linux, Windows, OS X, FreeBSD
[18:19] <superfly> (and anything else that can run Python and Qt)
[18:19] <Kilos> ok
[18:20] <superfly> and while we have Linux and Windows developers, we don't have anyone specifically on Mac
[18:27] <kbmonkey> hello hello
[18:28] <psydroid> hi captine 
[18:28] <psydroid> hi Kilos 
[18:28] <psydroid> hi superfly 
[18:28] <psydroid> hi kbmonkey 
[18:28] <Kilos> hi psydroid  
[18:28] <Kilos> wb kbmonkey  
[18:28] <kbmonkey> ty!
[18:29] <kbmonkey> I got most of my stuff packed. mover coming 7:30. weee
[18:29] <kbmonkey> hopefully be done before it gets hot :]
[18:29] <Kilos> hope all goes well
[18:30] <superfly> where you moving to kbmonkey?
[18:30] <captine> hi psydroid 
[18:30] <kbmonkey> ty Kilos - I feel good about it. its the unpacking I dont like ;)
[18:30] <Kilos> yeah one always leaves something packet forever
[18:31] <kbmonkey> just across the city superfly, essenwood I think the area is 
[18:31] <kbmonkey> oh no, I purge stuff on each move, am pro at this now
[18:31] <Kilos> lol
[18:32] <superfly> kbmonkey: sorry, which city? durbs?
[18:32] <kbmonkey> yes durbs
[18:32] <superfly> found it on gmaps :-)
[18:40] <kbmonkey> linux voice issue 2 is out already, wow I need to catch up on my reading!
[18:42] <kbmonkey> I am impressed with claws-mail, seriously.
[18:43] <Kilos> whats impressive?
[18:44] <kbmonkey> claws mail client
[18:44] <Kilos> ya but what can it do that evolution cant
[18:44] <Kilos> apart from speed maybe
[18:45] <kbmonkey> it is fully keyboard friendly, nice gpg integration, easily manage multiple mailboxes. still learning it...
[18:46] <Kilos> hi Iraeeu  
[18:46] <kbmonkey> has nice pre-and post-processing rules tooo - imap and local side.
[18:46] <Kilos> pop3
[18:46] <kbmonkey> that is local
[18:47] <Kilos> i like my new mails coming here on their own
[18:47] <Iraeeu> Hey Kilos, how come you are always on here? and so fast at saying hello all the time 
[18:47] <Kilos> and evo has built in backup tool
[18:47] <kbmonkey> hi Iraeeu 
[18:47] <Kilos> Iraeeu  im the greeter bot
[18:47] <kbmonkey> because Kilos is pro
[18:48] <Iraeeu> lol
[18:48] <kbmonkey> he sees irc like neo sees the matrix
[18:48] <Kilos> hehe
[18:48] <Iraeeu> Are any of you trying out 14 beta?
[18:48] <Kilos> loved those movies
[18:49] <Kilos> ya neil is but he aint on tonight
[18:49] <kbmonkey> classic theme
[18:49] <Kilos> have you tried in Iraeeu  
[18:49] <Kilos> it
[18:50] <Iraeeu> I am thinking about it, might try it on vagrant first
[18:50] <Kilos> neil said it runs well in kde flavour. not sure what he said about unity anymore
[18:51] <Kilos> he is a distro hopper
[18:51] <Iraeeu> I don't plan on using the gui so it doens't really matter 
[18:51] <Kilos> server?
[18:52] <Iraeeu> yea, how about elementary os - have you tried that out?
[18:52] <Kilos> or custom gui
[18:52] <Iraeeu> server
[18:53] <Kilos> whew you wanna try a beta on your server or just to play around with
[18:54] <Iraeeu> Vagrant doens't work with gui tho, but I have like 3 ubuntu servers running at the same time for web development. Interested in seeing what breaking changes come with 14 lts. 
[18:54] <kbmonkey> hey I have data left before the month runs out
[18:54] <Kilos> ah so to test first of all
[18:54] <Iraeeu> yea
[18:55] <captine> havent run 14.. but will upgrade desktop when it is released and server when the first point release come
[18:57] <Kilos> i will see how data looks when it is released
[18:57] <Kilos> they normally do lotsa work in the last few weeks
[18:58] <kbmonkey> true
[18:58] <Kilos> Iraeeu  what os do you work on the servers with
[18:58] <superfly> will probably upgrade my work machine on Monday
[18:58] <Iraeeu> 12 lts 
[18:58] <superfly> my desktop at home (this machine) runs Debian unstable
[18:58] <Kilos> ah 12.04
[18:59] <Iraeeu> Is any of the ubuntu dev even done in south afria? I only know about a canonical office in london...
[18:59] <kbmonkey> I want to switch to rolling release, my window manager stopped compiling from needed dependencies :p
[18:59] <Kilos> the weed is one of the dev guys
[18:59] <Iraeeu> cool
[18:59] <superfly> Iraeeu: none at all
[19:00] <superfly> Kilos: he's not an Ubuntu developer in the sense that he works on Mir or Unity
[19:00] <Kilos> what does he work on superfly  
[19:01] <Kilos> he has told me but i forget
[19:01] <superfly> Kilos: some of the packages
[19:01] <Kilos> arent they all split up with different packages
[19:02] <Kilos> like the network manager group
[19:03] <superfly> Kilos: yes. he mostly deals with Python-related packages
[19:04] <Kilos> ty
[19:08] <Kilos> drussell  what packages are you involved with
[19:08] <Kilos> evening too
[19:08] <kbmonkey> well Im off, chat tomorrow!
[19:11] <Kilos> night my monkey
[19:11] <Kilos> have a good day tomorrow
[19:15] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight. see Iraeeu  im not always here
[19:15] <Kilos> hehe