[00:00] <Jordan_U> C1t1Z3n: Other lightweight options (which are actually currently supported in Ubuntu) include LXDE (Lubuntu) and XFCE (Xubuntu).
[00:00] <nyl_> awesomess3, i have to use 14.04 because of OPTIMUS, runs great on optimus laptops
[00:01] <AB49K> I recommend LDXE, It's my go-to GUI for both my desktop and servers. It's night on memory and fast as hell :)
[00:01] <AB49K> *light
[00:01] <nyl_> on this computer i use Unity
[00:01] <nyl_> HP Z800
[00:01] <xar-> GUI on a server? you're doing it wrong ^_^
[00:02] <C1t1Z3n> Jordan_U, thanks.
[00:02] <koleda> redhat have gui :)
[00:02] <C1t1Z3n> xar-, also thanks.
[00:02] <pootietang> daftykins: I will regenerate the cert and try again.
[00:02] <NewToUbun> which file system is recommended for ubuntu 130.10? exFat or NTFS?
[00:02] <AB49K> It's for remote access for the people that use it :P I personally just use SSH It's better
[00:02] <Jordan_U> C1t1Z3n: You're welcome.
[00:02] <rww> NewToUbun: ext4
[00:02] <xar-> C1t1Z3n: MATE desktop sounds right up your alley. Especially if you haven't upgraded in years.
[00:02] <xar-> C1t1Z3n: yw.
[00:03] <daftykins> NewToUbun: i'm not sure we've gotten to 130 yet, ext4 is fine though
[00:03] <Wulframn> I use mate and love it
[00:03] <NewToUbun> rww ON WINDOWS i am geeting only 2 options exFAT and NTFS
[00:04] <xar-> C1t1Z3n: Like Jordan_U pointed out, it's not officially supported by Ubuntu, so either you do an unsupported installation via a Launchpad PPA, or you dump Ubuntu and go with Ubuntu's cousin, Mint. :)
[00:04] <rww> NewToUbun: are you trying to make a partition that both Windows and Ubuntu will use, or...?
[00:04] <qin> !fs
[00:04] <NewToUbun> rww yes sir
[00:04] <rww> NewToUbun: NTFS
[00:04] <nyl> so what flavor of ubuntu 14.04 should i use now
[00:05] <elid> Hi diddly dil!
[00:05] <rww> none of them, because it hasn't been released so we don't support it
[00:05] <xar-> lol
[00:05] <xar-> this ^
[00:05] <voxelpete> Looking for some help installing 12.04 onto my box
[00:05] <Bashing-om> C1t1Z3n: If you want 'buntu close to what 10.04 was -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu <-.
[00:05] <elid> voxelpete What do you need help with
[00:05] <Wulframn> !ask | voxelpete
[00:06] <nyl> well since 13.10 doesn't support me 14.04 likes my laptop a lot
[00:06] <nyl> xD
[00:06] <ice9> how can I get the bus speed for the CPU and the RAM?
[00:06] <daftykins> ice9: 'bus speed' for what possible reason?
[00:06] <awesomess3> ice9, ps aux
[00:06] <saturn_usa> Hello everybody. I have postfix and it not work, it only work to user1 and user2 but, for someone@gmail.com not work :/ Someone can help me?
[00:06] <ice9> daftykins: for knowledge
[00:07] <rww> nyl: might want to ask #ubuntu+1 about it then, as /topic says :)
[00:07] <Bashing-om> nyl: Why are you stuck, nothing Jordan_U  has advised you do do to this time can cause harm (??).
[00:07] <xar-> saturn_usa: what have you done to troubleshoot the situation?
[00:07] <daftykins> ice9: riiiight, you'd be better off looking up your processor model # and your RAM type
[00:07] <C1t1Z3n> xar-, my main issue is that I do not want to start having to mend drivers. I used CentOS at one point and stuff like my card reader where not working out of the box, I spend hours searching stuff and I want to avoid going through that again.
[00:08] <ice9> daftykins: how can I know the RAM type I can't open the laptop
[00:08] <C1t1Z3n> Bashing-om, thanks. Is Lubuntu, Xubuntu, etc. the same as Ubuntu just with different desktop managers?
[00:08] <nyl> Bashing-om, gonna have to rebuild my usb stick :D
[00:08] <Phibs> how do I remove all partitions/LVM information during a preseed install ?
[00:08] <rww> C1t1Z3n: yes
[00:08] <xar-> ice9: model number, go to the manufacturer's website and find the product sheet.
[00:08] <voxelpete> When attempting to load a 12.04 ubuntu disk with the boot preference correctly configured, it displays a blank msdos prompt, then proceeds directly back to windows. I haven't found any issues with hardware, and everything is compatible.
[00:08] <daftykins> ice9: shame ;) "sudo lshw | grep -i memory" might get it
[00:08] <daftykins> xar-: that won't answer this.
[00:09] <Wulframn> voxelpete: check your install media
[00:09] <Bashing-om> C1t1Z3n, yeah, that is the difference. all the kernels are the same same.
[00:09] <Bashing-om> nyl: OK, we be real patient.
[00:09] <xar-> the product sheet will contain the RAM speed and maybe the model numbers
[00:09] <NewToUbun> rww i just downloaded ubuntu 13.10 and i saved it in my USB do i need to do anything else?
[00:10] <saturn_usa> nothing, i follow this video:
[00:10] <saturn_usa> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu57s2B-47w
[00:10] <saturn_usa> but not work
[00:10] <daftykins> xar-: i'm not used to getting that much out of manufacturers :P
[00:10] <saturn_usa> and if not have soluction i'll to RedHat
[00:11] <C1t1Z3n> rww, Bashing-om, thanks for your answers.
[00:11] <qin> icebrain_:
[00:11] <daftykins> saturn_usa: you are welcome to go to ANY distro you want, but please don't think that any of us will care if you do change :)
[00:11] <voxelpete> Wulframn: No apparent issues with install media.
[00:12] <saturn_usa> daftykins: and ?
[00:12] <sabrehagen> hi guys, i've been using mint for about a day, and want to make sure i get with the right distro early, before i get too settled in, and am thinking of moving to mint debian for speed purposes. my goal is to have my entire mint / loaded into ram, and have no HDD access resulting in blazing speed. i want to have a persistent file system so i want to write changes back to disk before shutdown. is it doable, and if so is either one of the ubuntu or debia
[00:12] <xar-> You should not be administering a mail server if you need to turn to Youtube for support when things break.
[00:12] <sabrehagen> sorry, foget the bit about debian. only meant to ask about the linux in ram concept here
[00:12] <pootietang> I still get the same problem, here's the error logs: http://pastebin.com/vN56SNG0
[00:13] <daftykins> sabrehagen: we do not help with mint here
[00:13] <bazhang> !mintsupport | sabrehagen
[00:13] <Wulframn> voxelpete: you checked the iso and everything?
[00:13] <sabrehagen> daftykins: yes, my mistake, i'm just interested in running linux from ram here
[00:13] <voxelpete> Wulframn: Yep. Correct and updated version. Just won't cooperate.
[00:14] <daftykins> sabrehagen: sure, can't help though
[00:14] <xar-> Did you even read his request? He wants to load an OS into RAM, stop throwing unneccessary triggers at him and READ what he said.
[00:14] <Wulframn> sabrehagen: check out #linux, too
[00:14] <elid> hey, I 'm new. any cool things for .bashrc that you can recommend
[00:14] <elid> ?
[00:14] <Wulframn> voxelpete: I mean the md5sum as well
[00:14] <saturn_usa> redhat is more better #centos. bye. thank.
[00:15] <daftykins> xar-: sure i did, but the idea behind that is that what may work for ubuntu can't be guaranteed under mint - i.e. the loading into RAM, so end of story.
[00:15] <Bashing-om> NewToUbun: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto , http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1958073 ...
[00:15]  * xar- facepalm
[00:15] <awesomess3> elid, here is mine: http://corey-a.blogspot.com/2013/07/my-bashrc-20.html
[00:15] <Jordan_U> xar-: This channel only supports Ubuntu. None of the versions of Mint are Ubuntu, and none of them are supported here. ##linux exists for generic linux support, and #mintsupport exists for Mint specific support.
[00:15] <xar-> Did any of you read what he asked? lol
[00:15] <daftykins> xar-: i know it's cross-OS but i'm afraid rules are rules :) you're free to go think happy thoughts elsewhere of course
[00:15] <voxelpete> Wulframn: All the hashes lined up.
[00:16] <daftykins> xar-: i'd recommend you calm down right now, you're obviously new to helping in here :)
[00:16] <Wulframn> Jordan_U: he mentioned mint to give information on his background. He was asking about Ubuntu's ability to run from RAM.
[00:16] <Jordan_U> xar-: Yes, I did. If you wish to discuss this channel's policy feel free to join #ubuntu-ops, but I'd like to not clutter this channel further.
[00:16] <awesomess3> Ubuntu LIVEusb?
[00:17] <xar-> sabrehagen: yes you can absolutely load an OS into RAM; I would personally do so by loading $OS_OF_CHOICE onto a temp ramdisk via tmpfs, and do you work on that; as far as establish persistence, you'll need a way to copy data from your ramdisk to hard disk.
[00:17] <qin> sabrehagen: Knoppix runs from ram, and few more.
[00:18] <Wulframn> Jordan_U: daftykins this wasn't a policy issue, this was a reading and comprehension issue. In the future please don't be so quick to run a trigger as soon as you see another OS mentioned in a comment.
[00:18] <xar-> my thoughts exactly.
[00:18] <xar-> anyways sabrehagen , you can absolutely tell virtualbox to load a VDI to a tmpfs ramdisk; it's doable, but volatile. Proceed with caution.
[00:19] <elid> How do I setup SSH? [13.10]
[00:19] <daftykins> Wulframn: i disagree, and you're only wasting time further by digging it up again.
[00:19] <Wulframn> voxelpete: Are you running from a DVD or USB?
[00:19] <Jordan_U> Wulframn: xar-: If you would like to discuss this channel's policy, or application thereof please join #ubuntu-ops or #ubuntu-offtopic. This discussion is itself offtopic.
[00:19] <awesomess3> elid, setup an sshd or run a client to connect to an sshd (server)?
[00:20] <qin> elid: sudo apt-get install openssh-server; add keys, disable root login, forward port in router if needed, set up ddns if must.
[00:20] <elid> errr... how do connect to other things via ssh, but also connect to my computer via SSH (preferably outside of LAN)?
[00:20] <sabrehagen> xar-: loading to tempfs doesn't seem too bad, it's the commiting changes that i'm not sure about. any suggestions? i'm very new to linux.
[00:21] <awesomess3> elid, define 'other things'
[00:21] <xar-> sabrehagen: you could write a simple bash script to copy the contents of the .vdi file to more persistent storage; you should probably just get an SSD drive and be done with it
[00:21] <elid> Other computers, i.e. my raspberry pi
[00:22] <daftykins> and install ubuntu :D
[00:22] <qin> elid: it is vast subject: man ssh; man sshd; man sshd_config... of actualy man ssh<TAB>
[00:23] <awesomess3> qin, excellent answer. At first I wasn't sure how to respond to elid's query.
[00:23] <voxelpete> Wulframn: I have tried both. Currently closest on dvd.
[00:24] <elid> qin, alright, i'll check out the man pages.
[00:25] <qin> awesomess3: do you think I went too far? Kinda hard to stop throwing man at people.
[00:26] <awesomess3> qin, for very broad answers, I think suggesting `man` pages is really the only answer.
[00:27] <awesomess3> s/answers/questions/
[00:28] <qin> ubottu would have man of the day implemented..
[00:28] <delac> ubuntu 12.04. Recent updates seem to have killed compiz. compiz --replace will fail and launch a bug report. Any thoughts?
[00:28] <MaximumTimbo> Hey, my touch pad is freaking out, how do I restart it with the terminal?
[00:29] <MaximumTimbo> Hey, my touch pad is freaking out, how do I restart it with the terminal?  Ubuntu 13.10
[00:29] <iKernel> Boom schakalaka, the au repository server be down. Boo!
[00:29] <qin> MaximumTimbo: sudo reboot; me thinks.
[00:30] <iKernel> Err http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy/main libvisio-0.0-0 i386 0.0.31-1
[00:30] <iKernel>   504  Connection Timed Out [IP: 202.158.214.106 80]
[00:30] <daftykins> iKernel: you can change it in the software settings
[00:30] <MaximumTimbo> qin I was hoping to not restart the computer... any other ideas?
[00:30] <iKernel> Oh, it's back up. Yay!
[00:30] <iKernel> daftykins, yeah I know :p
[00:31] <iKernel> I've been in this game for 8 years now.
[00:32] <qin> MaximumTimbo: of, touch pad... in sys.log you should see what is going on and which module need to reloaded, but if its presistent you likely be bug hunting.
[00:33] <awesomess3> qin, he must've rebooted :>
[00:33] <qin> it should help...
[00:35] <Thalheim> is there any way to disable statvfs@openssh.com in ssh/sftp?
[00:38] <jpq> hi!
[00:38] <MarGul> I created a ZipFiles class in PHP and I am sure that my code is working but it is still not creating a zip file. I run xubuntu 12.04 and nginx, is there some kind of lib I have to install in order to be able to create zip files from PHP?
[00:40] <vir_> I am an Ubuntu Studio user, yesterday I was using Jack Audio, but today it disappeared. Why did this happened?
[00:42] <delac> any thoughts what this error message might imply?:   Compiz (opengl) - Fatal: glXQueryExtensionsString is NULL for screen 0
[00:42] <awesomess3> Thalheim, statvfs@openssh.com is not in the /etc/*/*.conf?
[00:43] <Thalheim> awesomess3: I have of course my ssh_config and sshd_config in /etc/ssh/ but I wish to disallow people of this server (sftp) from being able to see the drive capacity
[00:44] <awesomess3> MarGul, check with <? phpinfo() ?> to see if the Zip extension is there?
[00:44] <awesomess3> Thalheim, I didn't know you could see drive capacity with sftp.
[00:44] <awesomess3> Thalheim, do you mean the `df` command?
[00:45] <jack__> hello
[00:45] <younes> hi
[00:45] <Thalheim> awesomess3: nay, it's really openssh : http://serverfault.com/a/563723
[00:46] <awesomess3> vir_, maybe try running jack-mixer
[00:46] <MarGul> awesomess3: Yes under Zip it says enabled. And it also says that I have zlib installed and configured
[00:46] <jack__> anybody ever install live image over network using ubuntu server?
[00:47] <Thalheim> awesomess3: "sftp(1) now has a "df" command to the sftp client that uses the    statvfs@openssh.com to produce a df(1)-like display of filesystem    space and inode utilisation (requires statvfs@openssh.com support on    the server)"
[00:48] <Izaya> this just in - seems WINE is letting me install iTunes
[00:49] <Izaya> anddddddddddddddd it doesn't work at all
[00:49] <Izaya> so much for that
[00:49] <daftykins> Izaya: i'm not surprised, there's a channel for wine though
[00:50] <Izaya> there is?!
[00:50] <Izaya> ooo
[00:50] <awesomess3> MarGul, does the www-data user have authority to create files?
[00:50] <jack__> why would interfaces change from "iface eth0 inet dhcp" to "iface eth0 inet manual" after ubuntu installation?
[00:50] <iDevelop> awesomess3: yes. That's why the fwrite(); function in php works :)
[00:50] <awesomess3> MarGul, try file_put_contents(...) with dummy information and see if the file is created.
[00:51] <williamtdr> PHP! \o/
[00:54] <awesomess3> Thalheim, I don't see much google information concerning to disabling statvfs@openssh.com :<
[00:54] <awesomess3> Thalheim, it seems to be a BS extension
[00:55] <MarGul> awesomess3: No it doesnt so it must be that my www-data dont have wirte permissions. Although my folder for my www data has rwxrwxrwx permissions. So feels like any user should be able to?
[00:56] <awesomess3> MarGul, you may have to chmod the previous folders/directories for +x and +w I would think.
[00:56] <Izaya> soooo apparently there is a way to install iTunes on Linux
[00:56] <Izaya> using PlayOnLinux
[00:57] <awesomess3> Izaya, lol.  so are you going to try iTunes on PlayOnLinux?
[00:57] <Izaya> just watched a youtube vid of it :-P so yeah
[00:58] <corporal> Hey?
[00:58] <awesomess3> man. youtube has everything. poor Turkey.
[00:58] <Izaya> LoL.
[00:58] <Izaya> indeed awesomess3.
[00:58] <Izaya> hi corporal
[00:58] <corporal> YouTube losing money awesomess3
[00:59] <corporal> Hey Izaya
[01:00] <daftykins> Izaya: i was under the impression that there are some perfectly functional alternatives under Linux, are you after the music transfer support or what?
[01:01] <MarGul> awesomess3: Every folder to my program has chmod 777 now and it still wont let me write to a file.. hmm
[01:01] <Izaya> more of support for my iPad, being able to take PDF's and load them to iBooks
[01:01] <Izaya> I mean, I can just reload to Windows and run it all... but the less I have to boot Windows the better
[01:01] <corporal> Hey MarGul
[01:02] <corporal> daftykins: somethings need Windows.
[01:03] <jiffe98> anyone have any idea why a machine wouldn't boot normal but would boot in recovery mode and boot normal after I resume?
[01:03] <Izaya> unexpected shutdown?
[01:04] <awesomess3> jiffe98, that's what happens when I `shutdown 0`, and then it reboots to recovery mode.
[01:04] <jiffe98> Izaya: it gets past grub, last thing it says is Starting configure network device security
[01:04] <daftykins> Izaya: hrmm, perhaps a file sync'ing solution like dropbox would be easier to use, assuming you can get that on iPads
[01:04] <corporal> jiffe98: You trashed the gui.
[01:05] <Izaya> good point daftykins
[01:05] <Izaya> you can
[01:05] <jiffe98> corporal: this is ubuntu server, no gui
[01:06] <Izaya> that's what I'll do instead daftykins. Genius!
[01:06] <daftykins> :)
[01:06] <corporal> jiffe98: You have no internet
[01:06] <daftykins> no cables at all \o/
[01:07] <jiffe98> corporal: what do you mean?
[01:08] <daftykins> jiffe98: ignore the troll
[01:09] <Izaya> question regarding Torrents
[01:09] <Izaya> if you're downloading let's say... less than kosher torrents... is there any reason to try utilizing something like Peerblock?
[01:09] <jiffe98> I'm curious what's different about resuming from recovery mode that lets it boot while a normal boot stalls
[01:10] <daftykins> Izaya: can't comment on that i'm afraid
[01:11] <daftykins> though - ones own personal paranoid computing is at their own discretion
[01:11] <daftykins> :)
[01:11] <jiffe98> I even tried deleting the vm it was installed on, recreated and reinstalled, same thing
[01:11] <jiffe98> I have other VMs I installed just fine today
[01:11] <jiffe98> just this last one won't boot
[01:14] <andrew_1> hello
[01:14] <zhaoyanjun> what
[01:14] <bei> hi
[01:15] <leo> shh
[01:15] <zhaoyanjun> sunpengfei shi sb
[01:15] <bei> .
[01:16] <Guest5499> ...
[01:18] <lilei> ...
[01:18] <lilei> aa
[01:19] <wem__2> hi
[01:19] <wem__2> asasas
[01:19] <todd_> hi
[01:19] <nbastin> Any chance someone has an installer ISO that they hand-patched to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1244176 ?
[01:19] <darkangel> On Ubuntu can you make a site with out port forwarding or do u still have to do that?
[01:19] <nbastin> (and how is it possible that no one cares enough to recut the ISOs on the web site...)
[01:21] <Beldar> nbastin, #ubuntu-server
[01:21] <VlanZ> hello guys, to have the grub asking you what OS you want to launch, you must install before ubuntu and then windows?
[01:22] <nyl_> steam-launcher: Depends: jockey-common but it is not going to be installed
[01:22] <nyl_>                 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.15) but 2.19-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
[01:23] <daftykins> VlanZ: best to put Windows on first
[01:24] <VlanZ> daftykins: I already have ubuntu, but I do have also a free partition... is that a problem?
[01:25] <daftykins> VlanZ: it'll be harder work but you can do it
[01:25] <VlanZ> daftykins: got it thanks
[01:28] <pimpim> hy ppl
[01:29] <Noiro> does Windows let you install after ubuntu's on to a free partition? How would you get GRUB to replace Window's screwiness with MBR?
[01:30] <pimpim> I installed ubuntu 14.04, when i installed bumblebee everythings is ok bumblebeed is running... but when i run optirun glxgears i have this error: [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: Could not load GPU driver
[01:30] <pimpim> what's the problem?
[01:30] <pimpim> xorg.conf.nvidia i have the busID
[01:30] <pimpim>     BusID "PCI:01:00:0"
[01:33] <xangua> !14.04 | pimpim
[01:35] <pimpim> xangua?
[01:40] <jiffe98> anyone have any idea why a machine wouldn't boot normal but would boot in recovery mode and boot normal after I resume?  If I boot in recovery and reboot normal its stalls again
[01:42] <ooopeeel> Hi, how do I open NeroLinux 4.0 as a zip in Ubuntu?
[01:42] <ooopeeel> Basic question I just don't know
[01:42] <infinitux> hi. i have ubuntu installed on my pc and it has a dual display (a tv and a computer screen) setup. every time i open certain things they open on the tv. how can I set everything to default to the computer screen so I don't have to power on my tv and view that screen just to access some newly opened windows?
[01:43] <infinitux> it gets pretty frustrating sometimes.
[01:44] <ooopeeel> infinitux,
[01:44] <ooopeeel> If you're talking just HDMI?
[01:44] <ooopeeel> It's pretty easy bro...
[01:45] <ooopeeel> Right click default screen, 'Change Background Settings' , Display, figure that out. Than sound to HDMI
[01:45] <Beldar> ooopeeel, supported ubuntu release Ubuntu 7.04
[01:46] <ooopeeel> what?
[01:46] <ooopeeel> Hi, how do I open NeroLinux 4.0 as a zip in Ubuntu?
[01:46] <Beldar> says all higher versions though ooopeeel why this app?
[01:47] <ooopeeel> My dickhead friend brought over a cd with this on it
[01:47] <ooopeeel> and I don't know how to install it
[01:47] <infinitux> whoops
[01:47] <infinitux> sorry ooopeeel didn't notice your reply
[01:48] <infinitux> so yeah, i have one tv (hdmi cable) and a computer screen (svga)
[01:48] <infinitux> dual monitor setup, nvidia graphics card
[01:48] <ooopeeel> That doesn't matter, it's pretty simple bro
[01:48] <ooopeeel> are you trying to view whats on your computer to your tv?
[01:49] <ooopeeel> if so, what I said is pretty much it ime
[01:49] <ooopeeel> Right click default screen, 'Change Background Settings' , Display, figure that out. Than sound to HDMI
[01:51] <hugaraxia> Is there a better (more official?) way to create a USB-install disk of Ubuntu than the Universal USB installer from pendrivelinux?
[01:52] <psusi> hugaraxia, the best way is with the startup disk creator in an existing ubuntu install, and last I heard, the recommended way to do so from windows was with unetbootbin
[01:52] <Beldar> hugaraxia, No official, but ubuntu has a disc creator
[01:52] <Artemis3> and dd
[01:53] <ooopeeel> Right click default screen, 'Change Background Settings' , Display, figure that out. Than sound to HDMI
[01:53] <ooopeeel> Hi, how do I open NeroLinux 4.0 as a zip in Ubuntu?
[01:53] <hugaraxia> So the best way to install Ubuntu is to already have Ubuntu installed? :P
[01:53] <Izaya> lol
[01:54] <Beldar> hugaraxia, There is no official usb loader.
[01:54] <hugaraxia> For what it's worth, UNetbootin creates a drive that just won't boot. At all. Universal USB installer creates a bootable installer on which nouveau crashes (I think, I'm new at this.)
[01:54] <Izaya> I recommend YUMI for setting up boot USB
[01:54] <Izaya> worked great for me
[01:55] <Izaya> esp. setting up the install for Ubuntu
[01:55] <hugaraxia> I'm a Windows sysadmin, *trying* to get into linux. Unsuccessfully. :)
[01:55] <Izaya> hugaraxia - download YUMI, get latest Ubuntu distribution, and a USB with ~4 gb
[01:55] <hugaraxia> Perhaps YUMI, then. Fourth time's the charm?
[01:55] <Izaya> let me get you a link
[01:55] <hugaraxia> I have the latter two, getting the former.
[01:55] <Izaya> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[01:56] <Izaya> download link is about halfway down the page
[01:56] <Izaya> take the .iso, throw it in a folder somewhere on your desktop. Then go ahead and dump the YUMI.exe in there with it
[01:57] <hugaraxia> That looks absurdly similar to the application I was already using.
[01:57] <hugaraxia> Izaya, this is the tool I was using just before: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[01:57] <Bashing-om> hugaraxia: Maybe this one ->http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows <- ?
[01:57] <hugaraxia> Just for contrast. :)
[01:58] <Izaya> I have only used YUMI hugaraxia
[01:58] <hugaraxia> Bashing-om, yep, followed that guide. The installer & booting to live both hang on the ubuntu splash-screen.
[01:58] <Izaya> but let me tell you, the one time I used it... it worked.
[01:58] <hugaraxia> If I'm quick enough to do ctrl+alt+f1, it looks like it's crashed because of something to do with nouveau.
[01:58] <ekodauhm> what is the shortcut for return to desktop from a application on fullscreen
[01:58] <Izaya> hugaraxia - do you have an AMD video card?
[01:59] <ekodauhm> *plz
[01:59] <hugaraxia> Izaya, nope, nVidia GT750M
[01:59] <Izaya> hm.
[01:59] <jack__> I need help with PXE booting live cd. After every installation the internet doesn't work. What would I need to configure in order to stop this from happening?
[01:59] <Izaya> you know a good place to ask?
[01:59] <Izaya> go to #Linux and talk to vodik
[01:59] <Beldar> ekodauhm, f12 or f11
[02:00] <Bashing-om> hugaraxia: Might try a "nomodeset" boot parameter . settable from a boot options screen.
[02:00] <Izaya> rahter
[02:00] <Izaya> join #r/Linux
[02:00] <Izaya> that's where you want to go
[02:00] <nyl> all good now with my ubuntu
[02:00] <Izaya> those guys helped me with my boot issues
[02:00] <hugaraxia> I can give that a crack, Bashing-om.
[02:00] <Izaya> hungaraxia - try asking in #r/linux as well
[02:00] <ooopeeel> Hi, how do I open NeroLinux 4.0 as a zip in Ubuntu?
[02:00] <Izaya> those guys are good at solving those things
[02:00] <hugaraxia> Will do, straight after I've tried the suggestions from here. :P
[02:00] <Izaya> ooopeeel - download 7zip
[02:00] <Bashing-om> hugaraxia: Been there before ? need instruction to get the boot options screen ?
[02:00] <nyl> Bashing-om, my ubuntu boots back again
[02:01] <Artemis3> jack__, edit /etc/network/interfaces and comment the dummy manual setting for eth0, that will let network manager take over
[02:01] <Bashing-om> nyl: Ya say that you are booting ? enlighten me please.
[02:01] <hugaraxia> Bashing-om, I'm on the boot options edit screen, whereabouts would I put in "nomodeset"?
[02:02] <nyl> Bashing-om, i fixed it using ubuntu flash :D i used mint on my flash
[02:02] <nyl> Bashing-om, have you ever had problems getting HDMI audio working?
[02:02] <Artemis3> jack__, you need to restart network manager as well
[02:02] <Bashing-om> hugaraxia: F6 key -> boot parameters pop up , enter selects.
[02:03] <hugaraxia> Ah, so not 'e' on the entry in grub?
[02:04] <Artemis3> jack__, i am assuming you already set up the gateway and the dhcp server, in fact i would do that first
[02:04] <Bashing-om> nyl: 'fraid audio is out of my spere of knowledge also ( yeah yeah, us old foggies !).
[02:04] <Artemis3> jack__, wrong, i have done many pxe installs and it works just fine
[02:05] <nyl> Bashing-om, hahahah :))
[02:05] <Bashing-om> hugaraxia: Are you booting the install liveUSB ? my instructions are for the liveUSB .
[02:06] <firefly2442> Is the upgrade process from beta to stable release fairly easy? (just click through the update process?) I'm going to be walking someone through it who has no experience.
[02:06] <nyl> i just can't route audio trough hdmi xD
[02:07] <Bashing-om> nyl: lemme check something, brb.
[02:07] <Artemis3> jack__, first, set up a gateway and check that it works, then make it a dhcp server and check that it works, then you can play with pxe (tftp, and nfs)
[02:08] <hugaraxia> Bashing-om, sorry, yes, booting to the install USB, EFI mode. First thing I see is grub, which gives me the option to 'Try without installing', or to install.
[02:09] <Artemis3> jack__, the procedure is identical with debian or ubuntu, i have even done it with openbsd and had setup multi distro/oses install, even dos images for hd repairs and such.
[02:09] <hugaraxia> There's no point at which I can hit F6 and receive any prompt, as far as I can tell.
[02:10] <Artemis3> jack__, no, i mean a computer that will act as a router, it makes things simpler to use a computer with 2 network cards, 1 to your "router", the other to your network (switch, etc)
[02:10] <masterblaster> anyone know what is the fastest type of link bonding, without requiring special switch ? I dont care about redundancy
[02:10] <hugaraxia> I'm in the process of recreating the USB installer via YUMI, to see if that's any better.
[02:11] <Bashing-om> hugaraxia: Reboot, soon as bios screen clears, depress and hold the right shir key -> language screen, escape key to acceot the defaukr -> boot options screen.
[02:11] <Bashing-om> shir/shift
[02:12] <Bashing-om> nyl: Ya got alsa installed ? -> dpkg -l alsa-base <- .
[02:13] <Artemis3> jack__, you can even later add apt-cacher-ng and save lots of bandwidth, if you have plans to make multiple installs
[02:13] <Artemis3> jack__, tests things one by one..
[02:14] <nyl> Bashing-om, yup
[02:15] <Bashing-om> nyl: humm, should workie -- outa the box !
[02:15] <nyl> Bashing-om, yup it should xD
[02:15] <nyl> i get sound on internal speakers, i get sound on the jack but not hdmi
[02:15] <nyl> xD
[02:15] <Artemis3> jack__, the ubuntu isos work as they are for pxe.
[02:16] <Bashing-om> nyl: alsa was the only thought I had.
[02:17] <nyl> Bashing-om, i think it has two sound cards
[02:18] <ethanryan_> How stable is the final beta, esp. of the GNOME version?
[02:18] <Bashing-om> nyl: Maybe to see: -> sudo lshw -C audio <-
[02:19] <nyl> pci - scsi
[02:21] <Bashing-om> nyl: correct my last should be -> sudo lshw -C sound <- .
[02:23] <sudormrf_> is anyone in here aware of a script that will use ssmtp to send an email notification when transmission completes its download?
[02:23] <nyl> Bashing-om, intel hda only, hmm i think there should be Nvidia HDA also
[02:24] <Bashing-om> nyl: look in bios, see what bios setting are ? .. maybe the card is turned off in bios and the OS then can not detect it ?
[02:25] <Tad3j> hey, can I use 2 virtualhosts using same port?
[02:26] <Bashing-om> nyl: are you running optimus technology / dual grahpics ? ( as well as audio ??) ..
[02:27] <nyl> Bashing-om, yup
[02:29] <nyl> Bashing-om, maybe they didn't finnish kernel or drivers on the hdmi audio part lol
[02:29] <kyle__> How big does the home directory need to get, before dejadup starts being slow?
[02:31] <lewis__> i trying to mount my windows partition so i am able to view it it ubuntu
[02:31] <awesomess3> Tad3j, yup. on apache2 you can use as many virtual hosts as you want on the same port.
[02:31] <Bashing-om> nyl: Well I will play since I have no other going on presently, see what we can do, what graphics ; pastebin -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga <-.
[02:31] <Tad3j> @awesomess3, thanks for your reply
[02:31] <Tad3j> I was asking because I'm getting 404 for my custom virtual host
[02:31] <Tad3j> any idea why?
[02:32] <Tad3j> btw, the default one works
[02:32] <awesomess3> Tad3j, sudo apache2ctl restart ?
[02:33] <Tad3j> @awesomess3, I've restarted it already, but doesn't help :/
[02:33] <Tad3j> in log I get "file not found"
[02:34] <Tad3j> although there is one strange thing...server already redirects me to /user (I guess it does that becasue I'm not logged in to website)
[02:34] <Tad3j> but it then throws 404, file not found
[02:34] <sudormrf_> is anyone in here aware of a script that will use ssmtp to send an email notification when transmission completes its download?
[02:34] <Tad3j> any idea what's going on?
[02:35] <awesomess3> sudormrf_,  wget http://whatever.com && mail whatever@whatever.com 'my message'   #?
[02:36] <Izaya> night all
[02:36] <sudormrf_> awesomess3: trying to get an email notification when tranmission finishes downloading a torrent
[02:36] <awesomess3> Tad3j, something is obviously wrong in your configuration. Or maybe you need to chmod your 2nd website (virtual host) to be readable.
[02:36] <Tad3j> hm...I see
[02:36] <SchrodingersScat> sudormrf_: does transmission have an option to run a command after download finishes?
[02:37] <sudormrf_> SchrodingersScat: it does.
[02:37] <SchrodingersScat> sudormrf_: then you could use the mail line awesomess3 gave you
[02:37] <sudormrf_> SchrodingersScat: so just put “mail whatever@whatever.com ‘my message’” into a script?
[02:38] <awesomess3> sudormrf_, you'll need to `man mail` because that command probably isn't valid.
[02:38] <sudormrf_> SchrodingersScat: will try
[02:38] <sudormrf_> awesomess3: ok.  will give it a go.
[02:39] <Tad3j> awesomess3, this is my custom entry for sites-enabled: http://screencast.com/t/ooRNEJubM2Tu
[02:40] <SchrodingersScat> sudormrf_: and if you need a way to send mail, ssmtp has worked well for me
[02:40] <Tad3j> I've also tried to chmod like this http://screencast.com/t/enqGvLlB but didn't help :/
[02:41] <sudormrf_> SchrodingersScat: ssmtp is what I am currently using on the unit.  just sent a test message.  as long as it goes through (it should) I will toss it in to a script
[02:43] <Tad3j> @awesomess3, I've also added that file to enabled sites, is there anything else that I missed?
[02:44] <awesomess3> Tad3j, try setting the virtual host that doesn't work in front of the one that does work, and then try both virtual hosts on the browser.
[02:44] <Tad3j> @awesomess3, how can I do that?
[02:45] <awesomess3> Tad3j, I'm surprised there isn't an error message from the configuration.
[02:45] <Tad3j> I remove the default one and re-add it?
[02:45] <awesomess3> Tad3j, hmmm....
[02:45] <Tad3j> the only error I get is "file not found" in error log
[02:45] <awesomess3> Tad3j, how are you adding the sites/virtual-hosts? I didn't see the pastebin because I don't go to many websites.
[02:46] <Tad3j> via a2ensite
[02:46] <LinuxGuy2020> Hello I have a new video capture device. When I type "lsusb" it shows "Bus 002 Device 003: ID 1b80:e001 Afatech". This is the video device. TigerDirect says its Linux 2.6.14 compatibile. I installed kdenlive and it doesnt show up as a capture device from what I can see. Is there any info on this device? Specifically its a StarTech USB2HDCAP hdmi/component capture device.
[02:46] <Tad3j> @awesomess3, I mean I enabled the site via that command
[02:47] <Tad3j> I've created sites-enabled entry on my own
[02:48] <Diamondcite> LinuxGuy2020: If you open up a terminal, do you see a /dev/video* ?
[02:49] <LinuxGuy2020> Diamondcite: no
[02:50] <Diamondcite> LinuxGuy2020: Hrm.. I would probably suggest googling more to look for your kernel driver. Maybe the right module isn't loaded.
[02:51] <cihan> ubuntu german?
[02:51] <rww> ubottu: de
[02:51] <sudormrf_> SchrodingersScat: script written, and tested.  script works.  now trying with a torrent running
[02:51] <JohnMH> ubottu: en
[02:52] <cihan> thx
[02:52] <sudormrf_> my goodness this NUC is SO much better than the pi ever was
[02:52] <sudormrf_> 6.4mb down on the ubuntu 13.10 iso
[02:54] <akiva-mobile> is there a 14.10 image for download yet?
[02:54] <cfhowlett> akiva-mobile, of course not.
[02:54] <akiva-mobile> akiva-mobile, for development reasons?
[02:54] <sudormrf_> SchrodingersScat: it worked :)
[02:54] <cfhowlett> akiva-mobile, they're still working on 14.04
[02:55] <akiva-mobile> cfhowlett, i know; sometimes they may have a version ahead of it though .
[02:55] <rww> akiva-mobile: they never have "a version ahead of" the current devel version
[02:55] <xar-> akiva-mobile: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[02:56] <akiva-mobile> rww, I thought they did. My mistake; thanks for correcting me.
[02:56] <xar-> akiva-mobile: check out that link, it's unsupported, beta, not meant for production, testing only, unsafe, alarms, bells, whistles, use at your own risk, etc. enjoy!
[02:56] <awesomess3> Tad3j, try disabling the site that works, and give that a go.
[02:57] <awesomess3> Tad3j, site = virtual host
[02:57] <akiva-mobile> xar-, huh, you see what I really wanted, was to get the unity8 desktop to hack on
[02:57] <Tad3j> @awesomess3, ok thanks, trying that out now
[02:58] <rww> akiva-mobile: there's a PPA for that, I think
[02:58] <thoonai> I'm having a problem with an vdmk disk file. I exported it from with an unpleasant name, but want to import it under another name and in the same folder as the machine its attached to
[02:59] <akiva-mobile> rww, really? I should have guessed
[02:59] <thoonai> how do I get this easily working?
[02:59] <akiva-mobile> you can get a desktop preview now in the repos
[03:00] <akiva-mobile> but its old, and thus black screens on me
[03:00] <akiva-mobile> I tried grabbing the latest, but installing it in source failed to recognize the dependencies already installed
[03:01] <akiva-mobile> and maybe I am just old fashioned, but I was having issues with the install considering they no longer do the "./configure, make, sudo make install" formula
[03:02] <castlewalls> fghhj
[03:04] <Tad3j> @awesomess3, I tried to do that, now I get Forbidden error on boths sites
[03:06] <awesomess3> Tad3j, ooohhh no lol
[03:06] <awesomess3> Tad3j, paste here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[03:07] <awesomess3> Tad3j, your apache2 virtual host config
[03:08] <bn_> ubuntu 12.04 LTS, configured to use static IP on eth0 but upon reboot machine somehow launches dhclient which I think causes eth0 to be deconfigured, why?
[03:08] <Tad3j> @awesomess3, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7166303/
[03:08] <bn_> basically I'l be ssh-ed to box after reboot and then all of a sudden discconnected because interface IP is de-assigned
[03:08] <bn_> any ideas?
[03:11] <Tad3j> @awesomess3, for just in case here is also default one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7166309/
[03:12] <awesomess3> Tad3j, where does rac.localhost lead to based on /etc/hosts?  Try changing it to just 'localhost'.
[03:13] <Tad3j> @awesomess3, 127.0.0.1
[03:13] <jycs> hi guys
[03:13] <awesomess3> Tad3j, I think the '.' might confuse things (in rac.localhost).
[03:14] <Tad3j> @awesomess3, I first tried without but same problem I bleeive
[03:14] <awesomess3> hmm....
[03:14] <Tad3j> although it's worth a try
[03:14] <Tad3j> let me try to rename quick
[03:16] <bn_> tried to do "echo manual >/etc/init/dhclient.override" but no dice
[03:17] <bn_> christ, what the heck is forcing this to start and how can I disable this damn thing
[03:18] <cellofellow> is not the command add-apt-repository from the package "python-software-properties"
[03:18] <cellofellow> ?
[03:19] <Tad3j> @awesomess3, nope, unfortunatelly that doesn't help :/
[03:20] <clue_h> bn_, set your connection settings to manual in network manager or where you do it normally
[03:21] <bn_> clue_h: this is headless i believe
[03:21] <awesomess3> Try looking at the various config files in /etc/apache2/* & see if you see anything not right.
[03:21] <awesomess3> Tad3j,  ^
[03:21] <leach> hey anyone on?
[03:22] <Tad3j> @awesomess3, ok, will try...although I'm not sure what to look for
[03:22] <bn_> hmm, ok did http://askubuntu.com/questions/154389/how-does-dhclient-get-called-under-12-04 and now I see rc.local starting it, argh
[03:22] <Tad3j> I have a clean Ubunt install
[03:23] <leach> hey anyone on here is a hacker
[03:23] <somsip> Tad3j: can you post the full apache virtual host file in paste.ubuntu.com, along with an ls -la of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled and confirmation of what version of apache you are running
[03:24] <afflicto> So I'm on 13.04, is it tricky to "do-release-upgrade" or should it go smoothly? I'm using gnome shell on it.
[03:25] <cfhowlett> afflicto, tricky as 13.04 is no longer supported.  you have to do an End of Life upgrade
[03:25] <cfhowlett> !eol
[03:25] <Tad3j> @somsip, I have 2 files: 1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7166309/  2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7166309/
[03:25] <awesomess3> afflicto, ooo I'd watch out. I remember trying to upgrade just the packages of my 10.04 and when I rebooted, there was just a black screen ><
[03:25] <vonsyd0w> afflicto, whatever you do, make sure you BACKUP your important data
[03:25] <cfhowlett> afflicto, THIS ^^^
[03:25] <brcolow> I have a Java program that uses an SSH library to execute commands on my remote host running ubuntu. It works fine and I can execute commands, but the one thing I am confused about is how I can execute a command via ssh onto the remote machine AND have it open a window that is visible on the remote host. For example, if I send via ssh "program -args" then the program opens up on the remote host, and stays running even when SSH sessi
[03:25] <afflicto> hehe ok :O
[03:26] <afflicto> Well I guess I'll stick on 13.04 for a while. I don't really *need* to upgrade. Just thinking if it's easy I might as well but i'm fine. I just do web development on it.
[03:26] <awesomess3> brcolow, your full message was clipped/incomplete.
[03:26] <Tad3j> @somsip, here is output of ls -la: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7166368/
[03:26] <brcolow> oh darn. where did it clip ?
[03:27] <awesomess3> brcolow, "and stays running even when SSH sess"
[03:27] <brcolow> when SSH session is closed. Thanks!
[03:27] <Tad3j> @somsip, Server version: Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu)
[03:27] <somsip> Tad3j: the 'I have two files' have the same URL. Please send the right one, and confirm which is default and which is rac
[03:28] <Tad3j> @somsip, the longest one is default one
[03:28] <awesomess3> brcolow, you know it's funny. most people want the process to keep running even after the SSH session.
[03:28] <somsip> Tad3j: you've only pasted one. Same URL posted twice. So you need to repaste rac config
[03:28] <Tad3j> @somsip, this one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7166309/
[03:29] <somsip> Tad3j: that's default
[03:29] <Tad3j> ah, sry
[03:29] <Tad3j> let me get the rac one
[03:29] <brcolow> How can that be accomplished? But more importantly, how can I get the binary (the program) to "pop up" on the screen of the remote host
[03:29] <Tad3j> @somsip, this is the one I've added: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7166303/
[03:30] <awesomess3> brcolow, you mean like `gnome-terminal -exec echo hello`?
[03:30] <bn_> finally, who the heck added "dhclient eth0" to /etc/rc.local?
[03:30] <awesomess3> brcolow, (don't actually try that command I don't know if it actually works)
[03:31] <brcolow> If I can be specific to make it make more sense, I want to open a program via SSH, and have the program pop-up on the remote host and stay running even after the session is closed.
[03:31] <brcolow> If I should man gnome-terminal I will do that
[03:32] <brcolow> any guidance on what the right package/program I should use to set that up would be greatly appreciate
[03:33] <awesomess3> brcolow, it depends on the target Desktop Environment that has the SSHD (ssh server). If you want the binary being executed to 'pop-up', then `man gnome-terminal xfce-terminal xterm aterm whatever` is your best bet.
[03:34] <brcolow> thanks very much man
[03:34] <awesomess3> brcolow, you might be able to do this by making it a background process.  let the ssh command be something like `~/pop_up.sh &`
[03:34] <somsip_> brcolow: you would need to start the process in a detachable session, like screen or tmux
[03:35] <Tad3j> @somsip, in case you've missed it, this is the one I've added: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7166303/
[03:35] <somsip_> Tad3j: I dropped. What is the content of /var/www/public and have you enabled mod_env?
[03:35] <Tad3j> yep, noticed
[03:35] <Tad3j> @somsip, in public fodler I have a ZF2 application
[03:36] <Tad3j> with .htaccess file
[03:36] <somsip_> Tad3j: does it have index.php?
[03:36] <Tad3j> I dont think I've enabled that
[03:36] <somsip_> Tad3j: that might be causing the virtual host to fail. sudo a2enmod mod_env
[03:36] <awesomess3> brcolow, "ssh into your remote box. type screen Then start the process you want."  http://askubuntu.com/questions/8653/how-to-keep-processes-running-after-ending-ssh-session
[03:37] <Tad3j> @somsip, I get "module doesn't exist"
[03:38] <somsip_> Tad3j: have you installed it?
[03:38] <brcolow> I have found screen to not work how I want it to, but that's probably my lack of understanding of screen
[03:38] <Tad3j> @somsip, just trying to figure out how to
[03:38] <somsip_> brcolow: I use tmux here. Works fine, but is a bit convulted at the start
[03:38] <brcolow> okay I will look into it, thanks a lot.
[03:39] <somsip_> Tad3j: my bad. sudo a2enmod env
[03:39] <somsip_> Tad3j: then restart apache
[03:40] <Tad3j> @somsip, just did that and it says it's enabled
[03:40] <somsip_> Tad3j: and mod_rewrite if you have a .htaccess in there?
[03:40] <Tad3j> *"already enabled"
[03:40] <Tad3j> yep, I've added that one
[03:41] <somsip_> Tad3j: what's in tail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log when you try to access the site? You have restarted apache haven't you?
[03:41] <Tad3j> @somsip, "sudo a2enmod rewrite" -> alerady enabled
[03:41] <brcolow> Do you think if i execute "gnome-terminal --execute program" and then end the session that the program will not stay running on the remote host?
[03:42] <Tad3j> @somsip, log contains "File does not exist: /var/www/remoteappcontrol/public/user"
[03:42] <somsip_> brcolow: no. The session belongs to SSH. That's why you need a detachable session, like screen or tmux
[03:42] <brcolow> I see, interesting....
[03:42] <brcolow> is it as simple as "tmux program" via SSH or more complex?
[03:43] <somsip_> Tad3j: so, knowing nothing about ZF2, possibly your htaccess is trying to rewrite to a different folder?
[03:43] <Tad3j> @somsip, it looks like that scripts finds out that visitor needs to login, that's why I think it's redirecting to user
[03:44] <somsip_> brcolow: I run it manually, then run progs under it. Never tried with ssh. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/tmux.1.html
[03:44] <brcolow> yeah im reading through it now..always found manual pages so terse...or is that I am so dense?
[03:44] <somsip_> Tad3j: so your apache setup is possibly working fine. You've just not configured ZF2 fully
[03:44] <somsip_> brcolow: subjective question. POssibly ssh user@server 'tmux -c myprogram'
[03:45] <Tad3j> @somsip, I think the problem is with server, since I've done the same setup on my web hosting
[03:45] <Tad3j> btw, here is the .htaccess content http://paste.ubuntu.com/7166415/
[03:46] <somsip_> Tad3j: I imagine index.php hands off some routing to the main ZF app. Dump a 'echo "ITS HERE" && die;' at the top of index.php and if it diplays that, you know the virtual host is setup right
[03:48] <Guest82115> +i
[03:49] <Tad3j> @somsip, I still get 404 not found :/
[03:50] <somsip_> Tad3j: and the logs say what?
[03:50] <Tad3j> actually you were right
[03:50] <Tad3j> I've was refresing old url
[03:50] <agent_white> When I do `man -k ncurses`... why doesn't the page show?  (The actual location of it is `man 3 ncurses`)
[03:50] <somsip_> .me passes Tad3j a facepalm to use
[03:50]  * somsip_ passes Tad3j a facepalm to use
[03:51] <Tad3j> thanks for passing it :)
[03:51] <awesomess3> agent_white, `type man`
[03:51] <Tad3j> and sorry, am using UBuntu for the first time, so I wasn't sure into my config
[03:51] <agent_white> awesomess3: hashed?
[03:51] <somsip_> Tad3j: so, essentially, you're ok now?
[03:51] <Tad3j> yes
[03:51] <Tad3j> facepalm!
[03:51] <somsip_> Tad3j: cool
[03:52] <awesomess3> agent_white, what do you mean by hash?
[03:52] <Tad3j> @somsip, thank you very much
[03:52] <somsip_> Tad3j: np
[03:52] <agent_white> awesomess3: That's the output I got from you command. "man is hashed (/usr/bin/man)"
[03:52] <awesomess3> agent_white, oh! right. Hmmmm........
[03:53] <Guest82115> /usr/bin/man
[03:54] <agent_white> Even `apropros ncurses` gives me "ncurses: nothing appropriate."
[03:54] <awesomess3> agent_white, what about `file /usr/bin/ncurses`?
[03:55] <agent_white> awesomess3: Oh well it's a library! Not an executable.
[03:55] <horny-sama> anyone willing to teach me how to add ppa to my software list"
[03:57] <awesomess3> agent_white, libraries don't get man pages or apropos...I'm 13% sure.
[03:57] <agent_white> awesomess3: Hm. Never knew that... though I found `man -K "ncurses"` to be pretty decent.
[03:59] <agent_white> awesomess3: Looks like my best bet is just to `man man` to figure out the section I need to look in, then `man -s $SECTIONNUM $SEARCHSTR` to find it. :P
[04:01] <hugaraxia> I have another terrible question.
[04:01] <rww> i have a terrible answer
[04:01] <hugaraxia> I've managed to get half an Ubuntu install from USB. It crashed when installing grub.
[04:01] <k0nichiwa> hi sudo /etc/init.d/transmission-daemon stop  didn't work
[04:02] <k0nichiwa> wtf .. i stop it, it says it stopped, but the damn thing starts running again
[04:02] <hugaraxia> I now can't get back into the installer because nouveau crashes (!!), so I managed to get a commandline.
[04:02] <k0nichiwa> it does stop because every time i do it the process number changes
[04:02] <hugaraxia> I wanted to install grub, so I was verifying that I had the right partition in mind.
[04:02] <hugaraxia> I did "sudo mkdir /mnt/sdb4 && mount /dev/sdb4 /mnt/sdb4", and that works fine.
[04:03] <hugaraxia> However "ls /mnt/sdb4" returns two directories, "@" and "@home". "@" seems to contain the root filestructure.
[04:03] <hugaraxia> Is this normal? And/or sane?
[04:05] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all
[04:06] <JokesOnYou77> How do I display a message in a bash script if no parameters are given?
[04:07] <linuxist> JokesOnYou77 you can write a function called usage()
[04:07] <JokesOnYou77> ?
[04:07] <hugaraxia> I guess noone knows. :[
[04:07] <k0nichiwa> can someone suggest how i can stop a daemon ?
[04:07] <k0nichiwa> init.d/transmission-dameon stop stops it but it restarts immediately
[04:07] <linuxist> eg. usage(){ echo "This is how you are supposed to use this script: mybashscript input1 input2 etc....; exit 1 }
[04:08] <linuxist> then in your script call: "[[ $# -eq 0 ]] && usage"
[04:08] <Bashing-om> hugaraxia: "Is this normal? And/or sane?" I have never seen the like.
[04:08] <linuxist> which checks for number of inputs
[04:09] <hugaraxia> Interesting. This is the filesystem as set up by the Ubuntu installer.
[04:10] <tonyt> 13.04 cant update no more ?
[04:11] <cfhowlett> tonyt, end of life = no support.  have to do an EOL upgrade
[04:11] <cfhowlett> !eol
[04:11] <akiva-mobile> tonyt, 13.04 had a 9 month life cycle
[04:11] <tonyt> ok . ill check that out . thanks
[04:11] <akiva-mobile> tonyt, never fear though, 14.04 will have a 5...
[04:11] <cfhowlett> akiva-mobile, 3
[04:11] <akiva-mobile> year life cycle
[04:12] <akiva-mobile> cfhowlett, daw; thank you
[04:12] <tonyt> only prob is im using a ubuntu based distro
[04:12] <cfhowlett> akiva-mobile, but I think it's 5 on the server
[04:12] <Bashing-om> hugaraxia: A mistrnaslation some where (??) as '/' is the file structure and '/home' is the user files ( @ substitued for / ) wierd !
[04:12] <tonyt> its not ubunutu all by its self
[04:12] <akiva-mobile> cfhowlett, okay, that is right
[04:12] <cfhowlett> tonyt, install ubuntu.  we can't support non-uubntu
[04:12] <tonyt> k
[04:14] <akiva-mobile> hugaraxia, Grub installs itself when you install ubuntu
[04:14] <hugaraxia> akiva-mobile, it certainly tries to, I'm sure. Doesn't always succeed.
[04:14] <akiva-mobile> hugaraxia, ah yah I read the rest of that
[04:14] <akiva-mobile> lol sorry
[04:15] <akiva-mobile> hugaraxia, unfortunately grubs are a ... not fun business
[04:18] <Guest82115> n
[04:19] <Guest82115> quit
[04:20] <Guest82115> :quit
[04:22] <Guest82115> quit:
[04:23] <Bashing-om> Guest82115: try as /leave and to quit al togather /exit .
[04:25] <deadbrainviv> Hello All, I am having an issue with ATi Radeon R7 240 on an intel i5 16 GB RAM, 500 GB HDD 3 display ( 1 on board , 2 from ATI) to enable all 3 display, only onboard works or just 1 of the 2 displays connected to ATI
[04:25] <deadbrainviv> Ubuntu version: 13.10
[04:27] <Guest82115> CLcfjnt)
[04:29] <kostkon> Guest82115, it's  /quit
[04:29] <deadbrainviv> Guest82115: Dude u alright??
[04:29] <Guest82115> yeah
[04:29] <Guest82115> trying to read 3 things at once... sorry
[04:30] <deadbrainviv> Cool
[04:30] <Guest82115> I think im typing in one screen and off to races.
[04:32] <Guest82115> newby to the irc and trying out commands, I am supposed to meet someone here, how would I find them if I dont have a name?
[04:33] <Guest8041> there is noise while speaking through microphone in ubuntu?
[04:33] <Guest8041> how can i reduce noise and amplify microphone??
[04:34] <cfhowlett> Guest8041, get an external mic
[04:35] <Jackbot> Man,How do i install a theme on Ubuntu 12.04 lts
[04:37] <josvuk> i have no sound
[04:37] <canis_> I have micrphone
[04:37] <canis_> what u mean by external mic?
[04:37] <canis_> I don't undersatnd
[04:37] <cfhowlett> canis_, is this a laptop computer?
[04:37] <canis_> it's personal computer pc
[04:37] <canis_> desktop compute
[04:38] <cfhowlett> canis_, describe the mic
[04:38] <josvuk> inthe kernel circular buffer i found this message
[04:38] <canis_> I have microphone attached with Webcam.
[04:38] <canis_> i don't have problem in windows but
[04:38] <canis_> when i move here in ubuntu
[04:38] <ahoneybun> I believe cfhowlett means is what is the make and model of the webcam
[04:39] <canis_> other people said that they heard some noise when i speak in mic
[04:39] <josvuk> snd-powermac no longer handels any machines with a layout-id property in the device-tree, use snd-aoa
[04:39] <cfhowlett> canis_, *noise* ?  static?  background noise?  buzzing?
[04:40] <josvuk> so is this the reason for no sound_?
[04:41] <spaz9> Hows everyone doing?  I could use some quick help on an install if anyone wouldn't mind
[04:42] <cfhowlett> spaz9, details ...
[04:42] <canis_> background noise
[04:43] <spaz9> installing 13.10 on macbook.
[04:43] <spaz9> how should I set up my LVM
[04:43] <cfhowlett> canis_, 1.  webcam mics are generally not studio quality, i.e. cheap.   could be the case that the windows drivers do  a better job of
[04:44] <canis_> ohh isee
[04:44] <canis_> in ubuntu how to install sound driver
[04:44] <cfhowlett> canis_, sound processing than the linux drivers.  the fix is to reduce all background noise as best you can
[04:44] <canis_> and graphic
[04:44] <cfhowlett> canis_, you already have a sound driver
[04:44] <canis_> ok
[04:44] <canis_> so what may be solution to reduce background noise
[04:44] <josvuk> spaz, i had also problems instaling 13.10 so i used 12.04 ...... still some problems
[04:44] <cfhowlett> canis_, but it's possible that there's a better one.  What is the make / model of the webcam
[04:45] <canis_> Ucom
[04:45] <cfhowlett> canis_, *IF* the oem offers it ...
[04:45] <canis_> Ucom is name of it
[04:45] <cfhowlett> canis_, right.  lookin for a linux driver ...
[04:46] <canis_> ok
[04:46] <kostkon> canis_, try to lower the mic's input volume in your sound prefs
[04:46] <cfhowlett> canis_, no linux options given so you're using the generic linux driver.  lower the input volume ^^^
[04:46] <canis_> yeah when i lower input volume, there is no background noise . But it's very hard for other poeple to hear my sound
[04:47] <spaz9> canis i've done it before; succeeded by trial and error. rrg
[04:47] <canis_> so how can i amplify my input sound?
[04:48] <canis_> what is mean by trial and error?
[04:48] <canis_> how u did it?
[04:48] <canis_> tell me please?
[04:49] <spaz9> it took me a couple of tries
[04:49] <spaz9> earlier today I installed 13.10 from Live Usb but it was tainted
[04:49] <spaz9> so now I'm at the installation type window
[04:52] <spaz9> I should install my boot loader on  /dev/sda right?
[04:52] <canis_> ok alright i will lower input volume
[05:05] <sudormrf_> hey guys!  is there a way to forward (for lack of a better word) what is showing up in the transmission webui on a server into a transmission desktop client on a different machine?
[05:05] <sudormrf_> it looks like you can do it with deluge.
[05:06] <sudormrf_> sort of like what is described here: http://www.howtogeek.com/142044/how-to-turn-a-raspberry-pi-into-an-always-on-bittorrent-box/ about halfway down the page or so.  the “connection manager”.  I am doing this on ubuntu server, that link is just to illustrate the point.
[05:07] <jasabella> which versionof postgresql is recommendedfor 12.04.4 LTS? pgsql9.1?
[05:07] <jasabella> or the latest version, 9.3?
[05:08] <somsip_> !info postgresql precise
[05:11] <Yakisoba-> Hi! Help me plz: How to make a this thing: when power is off,(working with battery), the computer immediately lowered the brightness of the screen (automatically) and when Power (electrcity) connection is restored, brightness as usual? Ubuntu 12 04
[05:16] <jasabella> somsip_... so what package do i get?
[05:16] <jasabella> postgresql? or postgresql-common?
[05:17] <JokesOnYou77> Ho can I check my bash script for no args given? This isn't working at all and I have no idea why: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7166654/
[05:19] <somsip_> jasabella: if you want the binary, postgresql. postgresql-common provides the source. It may come in as a dependency too, but let apt sort that out
[05:22] <jasabella> so postgresql is the supported package by lts?
[05:22] <jasabella> cool
[05:22] <jasabella> thanks
[05:23] <jasabella> somany packages so confusing :/
[05:23] <somsip_> jasabella: yes. np
[05:23] <jasabella> is there a postgis package that is supported?
[05:23] <jasabella> im searching :)
[05:24] <jasabella> hmm http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/postgis
[05:24] <somsip_> !info postgis precise
[05:24] <JokesOnYou77> Ho can I check my bash script for no args given? This isn't working at all and I have no idea why: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7166654/
[05:24] <jasabella> universe means it's not an official ubuntu supported package but it's made available in their repositories?
[05:24] <somsip_> jasabella: this might help http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16120622/bash-how-to-make-help-text-run-if-no-arguments
[05:25] <jasabella> ithinkn that message was for JokesOnYou77
[05:25] <somsip_> jasabella: aye, it was
[05:25] <somsip_> JokesOnYou77: this might help http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16120622/bash-how-to-make-help-text-run-if-no-arguments
[05:26] <somsip_> jasabella: a proper explanation https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[05:26] <jasabella> ya im reading :)
[05:27] <jasabella> thanks@
[05:27] <Octopus_plus> test
[05:27] <JokesOnYou77> I think I actually read that very post, but I still can't figure out why in the world my very basic script isn't working
[05:27] <Octopus_plus> yep! it work! :-)
[05:27] <Octopus_plus> ok! My bug now! :-)
[05:28] <somsip_> JokesOnYou77: your test is wrong. read the answers on the stackoverflow page
[05:28] <jasabella> dist-upgrade package is the package to get to update the system components?
[05:29] <Octopus_plus> Xubuntu how to decrease CPU usage on Virtual box?
[05:29] <somsip_> jasabella: it will upgrade any packages that are 'held back' due to needing to upgrade other key packages
[05:29] <Octopus_plus> i have a t60 by the way! :-)
[05:30] <jasabella> im having trouble understanding what it does, i understand do-release-upgrade does something major, like 12.04 -> 14.04
[05:30] <Jackbot> what is better gnome or unity?
[05:30] <siriusnova> i  need an ubuntu laptop, something relatively recent
[05:31] <Octopus_plus> pis si il y a des français pour répondre à ma question ok aussi! :-)
[05:31] <somsip_> !fr | Octopus_plus
[05:31] <jasabella> somsip_... so it wont ruin my LTS stability right?
[05:31] <jasabella> with dist-upgrade package
[05:32] <somsip_> jasabella: dist-upgrade will upgrade kernels and suchlike. The sort of thing that potentailly *can* cause a problem, but I've run it on LTS 12.04 to now with no problems. do-dist-upgrade is best not used on 12.04 until 14.04 is released
[05:32] <Octopus_plus> jackbot euh! Unity suck! :-)
[05:32] <jasabella> ahhh so it does make changes
[05:32] <Jackbot> ikr :c it makes me lag
[05:32] <jasabella> security updates and such right?
[05:33] <Jackbot> so what should i get on this 12.04?
[05:33] <somsip_> *sorry - do-release-upgrade not do-dist-upgrade. Hope you still follow
[05:33] <Jackbot> What would you suggest?
[05:33] <jasabella> yup
[05:33] <jasabella> i do :)
[05:33] <Jackbot> wat :\
[05:33] <jasabella> so you're supposed to do dist-upgrade somewhat regularly to get security patches
[05:34]  * Jackbot gives an innocent look
[05:34] <somsip_> jasabella: if you update and see 'the following packages have been held back', then dist-upgrade will upgrade them
[05:34] <Octopus_plus> ubottu OK! just because i have seen ''est parti'' no probs! so i still search my solution for xubuntu 12.04 on virtualbox for less cpu usage
[05:35] <somsip_> jasabella: this is a good one http://askubuntu.com/questions/81585/what-is-dist-upgrade-and-why-does-it-upgrade-more-than-upgrade
[05:35] <jasabella> oohh:)
[05:35] <jasabella> my google foo sucks :(
[05:35] <JokesOnYou77> somsip_, thank you for taking the time to respond but I still can't get it to work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7166724/
[05:35] <jasabella> thanks for your help!
[05:36] <somsip_> jasabella: np
[05:36] <JokesOnYou77> [[ -n "$1" ]] gives the same output no matter what I do.  whether I give args or not
[05:36] <somsip_> JokesOnYou77: use one of the working examples from the link I gave you.
[05:37] <JokesOnYou77> They're not explicitly marked as working...
[05:37] <jasabella> dist-upgrade it will be, throw out the trash :)
[05:38] <somsip_> jasabella: I always dist-upgrade when prompted to, and I've been fine on 12.04 since..er..04/12
[05:38] <JokesOnYou77> I also tried [[ -z $1 ]] and I've been trying to get getopts to work all night
[05:38] <jasabella> sweet
[05:38] <Jackbot> i'm install kde desktop shell
[05:40] <ghostjangles> Which DE is decent on Ubuntu (few bugs) and allows more screen real estate?
[05:41] <jasabella> gnome was ugly imho :P
[05:41] <somsip_> ghostjangles: have you considered tiling WMs?
[05:43] <JokesOnYou77> Figured it out.  What's the symbol that expands to all args?
[05:44] <jasabella> haha i need to resolve merge conflict of my smb.conf
[05:44] <steve___> I need help troubleshooting a network setup on a new server.  I can't ping google.com, so I checked my route and the default gw points to my router.  Is it so late that I am overlooking something?
[05:45] <jasabella> did you set a static ip address for the server?
[05:45] <jasabella> steve___...
[05:45] <steve___> Jasabella: Yes, I did.
[05:45] <jasabella> if so, you need to include dns-nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:45] <jasabella> so it gets pushed to resolve.conf
[05:46] <jasabella> assuming you can ping 8.8.8.8
[05:46] <jasabella> (i.e. your connection works, just not dns)
[05:46] <jasabella> er
[05:46] <jasabella> resolv.conf
[05:46] <steve___> I can ping IP addresses.  Let me look at the other stuff.
[05:46] <somsip_> steve___: dns-nameservers should be your router, if your router gets DHCP and gateway from your ISP
[05:46] <newueser9> test
[05:46] <jasabella> i had that problem :)
[05:47] <somsip_> *your router IP
[05:47] <jasabella> dns-nameservers 192.168.1.1 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 :)
[05:47] <jasabella> for example
[05:48] <jasabella> under eth0 (assuming this is your ethernet devcie)
[05:49] <ghostjangles> somsip_, I have not. I'm fairly new to linux as a desktop. I'm only experienced in headless server environments. Thanks
[05:49] <somsip_> ghostjangles: worth looking at these if you are wanting to manage your workspace/desktop efficiently.
[05:49] <jasabella> (8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 are the google public dns server ip addresses)
[05:50] <ahoneybun> anyone else can not login to google talk with any chat program if you have 2 step auth enable?
[05:50] <jasabella> thanks for your help somsip_ :)
[05:50] <somsip_> jasabella: no worries
[05:50] <jasabella> i'll head off for now
[05:50] <jasabella> <3 byobu
[05:51] <steve___> Do I need to do more than..
[05:52] <somsip_> steve___: after editing the file, sudo service networking restart
[05:52] <steve___> up/down the eth0 if?  Still not resolving.
[05:52] <ghostjangles> someone, is there any particular one that you would recommend as being fairly compatible?
[05:52] <steve___> Thanks both Jasabella and somsip.
[05:53] <somsip_> ghostjangles: popular one include swm, awesome, xmonad http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager#List_of_tiling_window_managers_for_X
[05:53] <somsip_> *dwm, not swm
[05:56] <ghostjangles> somsip_, The ones you mentioned do not appear to be in active development. Would I run into any issues due to that?
[05:56] <somsip_> ghostjangles: I've used awesome for a few years, and have had no problems with it.
[05:56] <steve___> Somsip:  I get stop: Unknown instance:  and networking stop/waiting, when I runn the service.
[05:57] <somsip_> steve___: beg pardon. It might be sudo service network-manager restart
[05:57] <somsip_> steve___: this might be worth reading too http://askubuntu.com/questions/230698/how-to-restart-the-networking-service
[05:59] <aeon-ltd> ghostjangles: for dwm it's better this way, when you make config changes you have to recompile so frequent updates would be a hassle. dwm supports patches though which are maintained separately
[06:00] <somsip_> ghostjangles: but ultimately, a tiling WM is only a suggestion. You're best off looking for alternatives DEs/WMs and finding some that have features you want, then trying some in a virtual machine maybe until you decide to install it on your main PC
[06:01] <ghostjangles> somsip_, Am I going to be overwhelmed by taking this route? This approach looks very different than what I'm used to
[06:02] <Simotek-Work> you could try enlightenment, it isn't strictly a tiling window manager but it has a module that allows you to tile windows
[06:02] <somsip_> ghostjangles: given the DE/WM is something you use 100% of your time when you work with a computer, it may be worth the time investment to get one that best suits your needs
[06:02] <Simotek-Work> a agree with somsip_ on that
[06:03] <Simotek-Work> experement and play around till you get something you like
[06:03] <Simotek-Work> it will probably change over time
[06:03] <somsip_> ghostjangles: or, if you can work in non-gui for everything, just use TTYs and omit X altogether
[06:05] <ghostjangles> somsip_, Lol, I do like my GUI programs
[06:05] <somsip_> ghostjangles: just checking - you said you'd used headless servers so maybe you were a CLI geek :)
[06:05] <joichiro> Hello. I am trying out the Trusty Tahr beta for the Unity UI and like its responsiveness. I am however bummed that it still does not seem to provide a way to let me remap the caps lock key to the backspace key. I lost that feature in the last release. The docs I can find point me to modify XKB by hand. Do I really have to muck around with the X system to make this simple adjustment?
[06:06] <somsip_> joichiro: I know Xmodmap can do this, but have no idea if it works under unity
[06:06] <dem0n> how is everyone doing?...
[06:06] <joichiro> somsip_: Thanks. I read in the docs that this is not reliable.
[06:07] <WizardGed> Joichiro: yes unfortunatley Unity does not have a key remapping utility
[06:07] <somsip_> joichiro: like, just not reliable, not not reliable under unity?
[06:07] <ghostjangles> somsip_, CLI is quite nice but there are still reasons to use GUI software, at least at my experience level
[06:07] <somsip_> ghostjangles: so pick a few of the popular ones and checkout the screenshots for starters.
[06:07] <joichiro> somsip_: Right, looking for the links. But had something to do with the way the X system is setup under Unity.
[06:08] <somsip_> joichiro: fair enough. I've used xmodmap for a while here with no probs, but not under unity.
[06:08] <joichiro> WizardGed: Any alternatives or third-party apps to do so? Or is modifying the Xorg file by hand the only way you know of?
[06:09] <WizardGed> Joichiro: yes there was last time i checked but is easier to just remap in the Xorg file and make a backup in case it reverts
[06:09] <steve___> somsip: didn't go as easily as we thought, but after a reboot all is well.  Thanks.
[06:09] <joichiro> This seems to be for Unity but may be for Gnome only, also seems recent (still looking for the other links) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Howto%3a%20Custom%20keyboard%20layout%20definitions#Introduction
[06:10] <Rarity1> Hi all! I've just installed Ubuntu on my old desktop and I'm having some kind of freezing problem on it, the screen will go black for a second and then when it comes back it's frozen and the cursor is gone
[06:11] <WizardGed> Joichiro: I'll take a look KDE has one but ill look for gtk apps for you (Kubuntu 14.04 has one anyway)
[06:11] <joichiro> somsip_: perhaps this shows what I am refering to, although I am not sure if the issues being talked about apply to me -- http://askubuntu.com/questions/422650/map-altgr-a-z-and-shift-altgr-a-z-to-greek-letter/423245#423245
[06:11] <joichiro> somsip_: The quote is "The method I use is with xmodmap, but it works only partially: if it works or not will depend on your layout and even then it will be reset every time you change layout. See later for the "real" (but complex) solution."
[06:12] <joichiro> WizardGed: Thanks for the idea. I like Unity. But this is a showstoppper for me. Might have to try that version out.
[06:13] <WizardGed> i tried unity 14.04 unity for nearly 2 months it wasn't awful it was just very annoying
[06:13] <somsip_> joichiro: I map caps lock to CTRL very easily. Get the correct keycode for your capslock and try xmodmap -e 'keycode 66 = BackSpace' and see if it works
[06:14] <WizardGed> scopes get very hard to remove totally in 14.04
[06:14] <ghostjangles> somsip_, Thanks for the help
[06:14] <joichiro> somsip_: At the end of that post the user Rmano provides four links to the "real" method. I felt this was overkill for such a simple request.
[06:14] <joichiro> somsip_: Cool. I'll try it out.
[06:16] <danmar> hi... I am googling to find out how I can make the function keys work.
[06:16] <linuxist> danmar: have you tried applying gentle pressure with your fingers? ;)
[06:17] <danmar> yes :-)
[06:17] <WizardGed> Joichiro: give https://code.google.com/p/keyboardlayouteditor/ a try
[06:17] <joichiro> WizardGed: thanks for the link, will take a look
[06:18] <danmar> unity must do something stupid
[06:18] <danmar> I want to turn off the unity functionality
[06:18] <WizardGed> do you mean the keyboard brightness sound etc combo buttons?
[06:18] <danmar> yes
[06:19] <WizardGed> are they attached to your F keys
[06:19] <danmar> when I press F3 in eclipse to jump to a class definition.. nothing happens.
[06:19] <danmar> when I press F10 to skip to next line the sound is turned off
[06:19] <WizardGed> ahhh i know your pain man
[06:20] <danmar> in my opinion it is a bug
[06:20] <WizardGed> that isn't the only problem with eclipse in unity beleive me
[06:21] <WizardGed> you may need to disable media keys in your bios because F3 will work if you press the FN key first then F3
[06:21] <WizardGed> at least mine does
[06:22] <WizardGed> disableing the media keys in your bios doesn't disable them it just switches there roll
[06:22] <danmar> Yes.. using FN worked.
[06:22] <danmar> !!
[06:22] <WizardGed> yep,
[06:22] <WizardGed> that an HP laptop
[06:23] <WizardGed> or lenovo perhaps?
[06:23] <danmar> my bios is crap also.. there is just some setting to select primary boot hard drive. nothing else.
[06:23] <danmar> It is some hp stationary computer
[06:24] <WizardGed> really, can you give me a model # and i'll take a look
[06:24] <danmar> hp z220
[06:24] <WizardGed> HP's actually got pretty good linux drivers most of the time
[06:26] <WizardGed> On most of the newer HP business PC's you tap the ESC key ASAP to get a menu of choices. Then you should see a F10 menu to access the BIOS.
[06:26] <danmar> well.. I have tried various keys.
[06:26] <EvilEpoch> Warm Greetings to all, I am The EvilEpoch.
[06:27] <funktfd> and so you are
[06:27] <danmar> ESC,F1,F10
[06:27] <danmar> F3
[06:27] <danmar> ..
[06:27] <WizardGed> hmm it says that is what you have to do..
[06:28] <danmar> really..
[06:28] <joichiro> somsip_: I tried the command you provided using xmodmap. And it does indeed work partially. It does perform the backspace function. Unfortunately it also still retains the caps lock function. Like it stated in the ask Ubuntu answer I linked it does stop working once the keyboard layout is changed. Not frustrated at your help, I actually appreciate it a lot. Just want to document this for Ubuntu's logs and for others it may h
[06:28] <joichiro> elp. thanks
[06:28] <danmar> I can try again
[06:28] <danmar> next time I boot
[06:29] <danmar> so I can disable the function keys bug
[06:29] <WizardGed> sounds cool
[06:29] <danmar> thanks
[06:29] <Rarity1> stupid freezing computer fffuuuu
[06:29] <WizardGed> no problem allways happy to help
[06:30] <somsip_> joichiro: fair enough. Quicker to check xmodmap than debate whether it really would work... Looks like you'll be following one of the 'proper' fixes then
[06:30] <joichiro> somsip_: Thanks again
[06:38] <Rarity1> now it's freezing when I try to open a terminal. I hate everything
[06:40] <funktfd> how do i overwrite the Sun
[06:40] <funktfd> its shining too hard
[06:40] <funktfd> :[
[06:41] <aeon-ltd> funktfd: do you have super user rights?
[06:41] <funktfd> i am the super user
[06:41] <Matviy> I dont understand, why am i having problems apt-get install'ing WINE on the latest ubuntu live cd?
[06:42] <funktfd> it must be your ex blocking your ex's
[06:42] <funktfd> get it
[06:42] <funktfd> ok thats enough ubuntu for today, peace
[06:44] <gertjan_> #list
[06:44] <somsip_> !list | gertjan_
[06:52] <Guest19768> ubuntu center how to open?
[07:02] <akiva-mobile> press the windows key
[07:02] <akiva-mobile> then type "Software Center"
[07:14] <alfonsojon> Hello
[07:15] <alfonsojon> Will 14.04 better support Exynos chips?
[07:18] <aeon-ltd> isn't there a ubuntu arm channel?
[07:20] <linuxas_> Morning!
[07:21] <tuxnotebookfan> hello
[07:21] <tuxnotebookfan> can someone help me with the ubuntu minimal setup? thanks
[07:21] <somsip_> tuxnotebookfan: what's the issue?
[07:22] <tuxnotebookfan> hi somsip_
[07:22] <tuxnotebookfan> i've a problem with the installation, cause my Graph card is a sis
[07:22] <tuxnotebookfan> i've a notebook 3634wlmi
[07:26] <somsip_> tuxnotebookfan: some links here that look like they are for your video card http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2190685
[07:31] <sweb> i have same problem using 14.04 alpha ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/356357/how-to-use-altshift-to-switch-keyboard-layouts
[07:31] <sweb> how can tell developers to fix this issue
[07:31] <sweb> ?
[07:32] <sweb> until ubuntu 13.10 problem not solved https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1218322
[07:33] <somsip_> sweb: if there is an existing bug, there is not much you can do but follow any advice in the bug report
[07:35] <sweb> somsip_: it's wired ... about " This bug affects 811 people " ... why not solved yet ? 0_o
[07:38] <akiva-mobile> Trying to sign the CLA for canonical, and its asking me for a  Canonical Project Manager or contact. Who should I contact specifically?
[07:42] <tuxnotebookfan> somsip can i create an iso with xorg already done in it?
[07:45] <somsip_> tuxnotebookfan: you want to create your own iso of the minimal install with some custom changes in it?
[07:46] <crunch-choco> anbody using irssi + tmux and having message display issues?
[07:49] <tuxnotebookfan> no somsip_ , not the minimal install, the lubuntu 13.10 iso with xorg.conf in it.
[07:51] <alfonsojon> Any improved support for Exynos in 14.04"
[07:51] <alfonsojon> ?
[07:51] <somsip_> tuxnotebookfan: I don't know if rither of these will work for lubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/739139-roll-your-own-customized-ubuntu-with-uck
[07:52] <somsip_> alfonsojon: is this an ARM processor?
[07:52] <alfonsojon> Yes
[07:52] <alfonsojon> #ubuntu-arm is dead
[07:53] <somsip_> alfonsojon: well, 14.04 is supported in #ubuntu+1 and ARM processors are discussed in #ubuntu-arm. I can't personally help you.
[07:53] <alfonsojon> Alright.
[08:16] <e01> ubuntu14.04 will still using compiz, right?
[08:17] <cfhowlett> !trusty|e01, support is in the other channel
[08:19] <dhiedeaf> hi... can ubuntu 12.04 add glibc_2.16 or glibc_2.17?
[08:19] <cfhowlett> !info glibc
[08:20] <dhiedeaf> owh... thx for information bro
[08:23] <llutz> !info  libc6   | dhiedeaf
[08:23] <dhiedeaf> aw
[08:24] <dhiedeaf> me use ubuntu 12.04 T_T
[08:24] <lolmaus> I want `ping` command to report timed out requests, like Windows command does. I failed to find an option for that. When requests time out, Linux `ping` just would not output anything. :(
[08:24] <llutz> !info  libc6   precise
[08:24] <llutz> dhiedeaf: you have to find backports
[08:24] <dhiedeaf> ii  libc6          2.15-0ubuntu10 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared libraries
[08:25] <dhiedeaf> use !info libc6 event not found
[08:26] <dhiedeaf> i'm sorry, i'm beginner for ubuntu :)
[08:26] <llutz> dhiedeaf: those !foo  commands are bot commands here in irc, not on your terminal
[08:26] <cfhowlett> dhiedeaf, in your terminal:   apt-cache policy libc6
[08:27] <cfhowlett> dhiedeaf, and to install    sudo apt-get install libc6
[08:27] <dhiedeaf> ok
[08:28] <dhiedeaf> ok, pls wait
[08:29] <ljsoftnet> whats the terminal command to press left keyboard button
[08:29] <dhiedeaf> !info libc6
[08:29] <dhiedeaf> ish
[08:30] <dhiedeaf> aw... saucy T_T
[08:31] <cfhowlett> dhiedeaf, it's also available in the precise main repo
[08:31] <llutz> cfhowlett: but only 2.15 not .16/17 dhiedeaf wants
[08:32] <cfhowlett> llutz, you're right.  I missed that detail
[08:32] <dhiedeaf> yes... i need version glibc_2.16 or 2.17
[08:32] <llutz> cfhowlett: and well, there are not many distros not having libc in the repos i'd guess
[08:33] <dhiedeaf> for run dosbox svn :D
[08:35] <llutz> !info dosbox precise
[08:36] <ljsoftnet> whats the terminal command to invoke a left keyboard keypress button
[08:36] <llutz> dhiedeaf: what version is it, from svn?
[08:36] <dhiedeaf> yeah... but if install windows 98 on ubuntu 12.04 x64, dosbox is hang
[08:36] <dhiedeaf> svn taewong version
[08:37] <llutz> ljsoftnet: "left keyboard keypress button"?
[08:37] <ljsoftnet> llutz yes
[08:38] <llutz> ljsoftnet: what button should that be?
[08:39] <dhiedeaf> i need install win 98 on dosbox, coz dosboxsvn taewong can use 3dfx
[08:39] <dhiedeaf> for nostalgia game :D
[08:39] <isomorphismes> What's Ubuntu's default proxy setup?
[08:39] <ljsoftnet> llutz i mean, like, in the terminal ~$ left, the left keyboard button is called
[08:40] <llutz> ljsoftnet: aaah, cursor-left
[08:40] <ljsoftnet> llutz i mean, like, in the terminal ~$ left when i press enter, the left keyboard button is called
[08:40] <llutz> arrow-left
[08:40] <isomorphismes> For a year webpages have loaded fine - then as of a few days ago webpages only load if I remove "system default proxy" in firefox and switch it to "no proxy".
[08:40] <dhiedeaf> ok... i try compile
[08:40] <dhiedeaf> thx bro
[08:40] <isomorphismes> Whatever that is seems to be messing with apt-get update as well.
[08:41] <ljsoftnet> llutz it doesnt move
[08:42] <llutz> ljsoftnet: no sorry, its just for me to make clear _what_ key you meant
[08:42] <llutz> ljsoftnet: i don't have an answer for you
[08:42] <ljsoftnet> ok
[08:43] <ljsoftnet> whats the terminal command to invoke a left keypress
[08:48] <llutz> ljsoftnet: look at tput (cuf, cub)
[08:48] <llutz> ljsoftnet: not sure if that is what you look for
[08:49] <isomorphismes> llutz: does http://invisible-island.net/xterm/ctlseqs/ctlseqs.html esc D work?
[08:50] <isomorphismes> ljsoftnet: does http://invisible-island.net/xterm/ctlseqs/ctlseqs.html esc D work?
[08:51] <tuxnotebookfan> guys there's a virtualbox for puppylucid?
[08:51] <cfhowlett> !vbox|tuxnotebookfan, puppy is not supported here
[08:51] <llutz> ljsoftnet: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/x361.html
[08:52] <bazhang> tuxnotebookfan, try puppy support or #vbox
[08:53] <tuxnotebookfan> sorry guys
[09:05] <Putdeksel> Could someone please help me? I'm getting this: http://pastebin.com/zbUYp3KG when I source vars. This is my vars file: http://pastebin.com/yUiFtT9v and this is the guide i've been using: http://tiny.cc/pvcfdx
[09:06] <tuxnotebookfan> how can i edit a file in text mode?
[09:06] <cfhowlett> tuxnotebookfan, open editor.  edit file.  save.
[09:07] <Unknown0BC> Hi, is this it ? Nautilus does not search hidden folders even when view hidden folders enabled ?
[09:07] <ljsoftnet> how do i update xbmc after change key maps
[09:08] <tuxnotebookfan> in text mode without grapich cfhowlett
[09:08] <cfhowlett> tuxnotebookfan, ??? vi and/or vim are text based editors
[09:09] <tuxnotebookfan> what is the command that i should write in shell?
[09:09] <tuxnotebookfan> i want edit xorg.conf, what should i write
[09:09] <JediMaster> Hi guys, I can't get X to start, I've had this issue before a few weeks ago, ended up removing the nvidia drivers and reinstalling a few times and something eventually sorted it, but not sure what.
[09:09] <tuxnotebookfan> thankz
[09:09] <cfhowlett> tuxnotebookfan, vi name of file for a new file.  otherwise, vi name/location of pre-existing file
[09:10] <tuxnotebookfan> so: vi xorg.conf?
[09:10] <cfhowlett> tuxnotebookfan, possibly sudo vi xorg.conf
[09:10] <tuxnotebookfan> thanks
[09:10] <tuxnotebookfan> minimal install works in wlan?
[09:10] <cfhowlett> tuxnotebookfan, assuming you're in the xorg.cong directory
[09:11] <JediMaster> At the moment Ubuntu 13.10 starts up and takes me to tty1, and tty7 is blank, after a few minutes I get "INFO: task systemd-udev:361 blocked for more than 120 seconds", then a bunch of backtrace in the system log
[09:11] <tuxnotebookfan> or only in etho?
[09:12] <JediMaster> Xorg.0.log shows the last entry as (II) xfree86: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0) as the last entry, even after several minutes. no (EE) entries at all
[09:12] <tuxnotebookfan> cfhowlett, minimal install it's only for etho or also for wlan?
[09:13] <cfhowlett> tuxnotebookfan, I don't know
[09:15] <JediMaster> also, I can't reboot as root, sticks on "Asking all remaining processes to terminate.", sysrq REISUB does however work
[09:15] <llutz> Putdeksel: "dos2unix vars" "source vars"
[09:16] <guest-WpVtM9> Where are the global desktop settings for the guest session?
[09:17] <JediMaster> Meh, just fixed it, in my history last time this happened I reinstalled plymouth with apt-get --reinstall install plymouth, rebooted with a sysrq REISUB after reboot failed then all is good
[09:20] <greeter> greetings... somehow my installation of python got broken. i managed to fix most of it, but these latest errors have me thrown for a loop, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7167396/
[09:23] <greeter> i'm not even sure where to find help on those errors
[09:24] <akiva-mobile> greeter, how did you break python? what distribution you running?
[09:24] <llutz> Putdeksel: did it work?
[09:25] <MohiX> Hello there !
[09:25] <akiva-mobile> greeter, hmmmm
[09:25] <greeter> saucy salamander... i'm not sure how i broke it. for some reason, after an upgrade, dpkg --configure -a started returning bus errors whenever it tried to set up python2.7-minimal
[09:25] <greeter> i wound up reinstalling it manually from a deb file, and that cleared up all the dependency errors, but these new ones appeared
[09:26] <MohiX> Does someone know how to enable the "Share Desktop" feature on Empathy? I tried installing "vinagre" but still doesn't work
[09:26] <greeter> maybe i should just do the same thing for python3.3
[09:26] <akiva-mobile> greeter, 3.3 is installed for me, i'm on 14.04
[09:27] <Putdeksel> llutz: http://pastebin.com/LJjQT779
[09:27] <llutz> Putdeksel: use sudo
[09:27] <Putdeksel> you are my hero llutz
[09:27] <akiva-mobile> greeter, heh dependency hell
[09:27] <greeter> hmm my errors have been very puzzling for some reason... not sure what caused the bus error, or why installing from a deb fixed it
[09:28] <llutz> Putdeksel: you have edited that file with a windows-editor before?
[09:28] <Putdeksel> Yes over ftp
[09:28] <akiva-mobile> greeter, maybe consider updating to trusty; its as stable as 13.10. May fix your issue with fresh debs
[09:28] <llutz> Putdeksel: or even DOS. use different editor, one which can create "unix lineendings"
[09:29] <Putdeksel> llutz: yes over ftp, didn't know that would give issues.
[09:29] <akiva-mobile> MohiX, share desktop, as in let someone control it?
[09:29] <greeter> well i actually grabbed a deb in the repos for 12.04, i thought for some reason that might fix the original problems. it did
[09:29] <akiva-mobile> MohiX, if that is the case, consider downloading team viewer
[09:29] <Putdeksel> llutz: thanks a lot!
[09:30] <akiva-mobile> guest-WpVtM9, global desktop settings? What do you mean?
[09:30] <llutz> Putdeksel: glad to help, sorry that i haven't seen that earlier (yesterday evening)
[09:30] <akiva-mobile> guest-WpVtM9, what do you change exactly?
[09:30] <greeter> hmm one of the problems i wanted to fix was that lubuntu-software-center didn't work, but it works now (thought python3.3 had to be properly configured first)
[09:31] <akiva-mobile> greeter, try synaptic
[09:31] <akiva-mobile> greeter, lubuntu though? Old hardware?
[09:31] <greeter> oh yes, very old hardware lol. still works though. hope it'll work till i can afford to replace it
[09:32] <akiva-mobile> greeter, :) perfect for a server. Check craigslist though; you'd be surprised to be able to get great pc's for like 50 bucks.
[09:32] <akiva-mobile> depending where you live though
[09:33] <greeter> i know. i just need to get a job first lol
[09:33] <akiva-mobile> greeter, Ah; I know the feels
[09:33] <greeter> unfortunately my isp doesn't let me run servers available to the public... but it makes a great server host on the lan
[09:33] <akiva-mobile> greeter, Irc bots then :P
[09:34] <greeter> i have two of those running too lol. though one is broken
[09:34] <helmut_> hi
[09:34] <akiva-mobile> helmut_, Welcome back. What can we help you with today?
[09:34] <Putdeksel> llutz: oh don't worry, I'm happy I can get on with setting up my vpn now. Thanks again.
[09:35] <ljsoftnet> is there a similar package for rejoystick, for a remote control
[09:36] <greeter> well i can live for that one error as long as it doesn't balloon into the huge issues i had earlier this morning
[09:36] <msx> hi all, since earlier today I'm getting these errors for official repositories: : GPG error: http://ftp.ccc.uba.ar trusty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5 NO_PUBKEY 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[09:36] <msx> any idea how to solve it?
[09:36] <Ben64> msx: trusty support is in #ubuntu+1 until release
[09:37] <msx> ooops
[09:37] <akiva-mobile> ^
[09:37] <akiva-mobile> :P
[09:37] <msx> Ben64: thanks :D
[09:37] <Ben64> no problem
[09:37] <msx> akiva-mobile: yes, u were late!
[09:37] <msx> akiva-mobile: ;)
[09:37] <akiva-mobile> msx, Foiled again!
[09:37] <eduardo_> hello, i want to disable global menu from unity.... ive done sudo apt-get remove appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-gtk appmenu-qt as googled
[09:37] <msx> lol
[09:37] <akiva-mobile> eduardo_, why disable it?
[09:38] <eduardo_> before it worked for me... but now it doesnt... perhaps an update made it
[09:38] <akiva-mobile> eduardo_, does the hud work for you?
[09:38] <eduardo_> akiva-mobile i want every program with it menu... i dont get with it
[09:38] <akiva-mobile> eduardo_, Did you know in 14.04 you can have the menus integrated into the title bar?
[09:38] <eduardo_> akiva-mobile i have 13.10
[09:39] <eduardo_> what is hud ?
[09:39] <akiva-mobile> eduardo_, just a suggestion, but you may want to consider updating; its a very stable release
[09:39] <akiva-mobile> eduardo_, glad you asked. Press left alt
[09:40] <akiva-mobile> eduardo_, I use it alot; its very powerful. It lets you execute menu commands, even ones without shortcuts programmed in.
[09:40] <meet_praveen> how can i restrict user to open only one url (specified by admin) in ubuntu on internet(firefox/any browser)?
[09:40] <Ben64> akiva-mobile: you probably shouldn't be suggesting that people run a release that isn't released yet
[09:40] <akiva-mobile> Ben64, Considering he wants to get rid of the global menu bar, he is asking for an unstable desktop :P
[09:41] <eduardo_> akiva-mobile i ve had horrible experiences upgrading ubuntu.... now im doing my project in computing degree... so i wouldnt update till i finish it
[09:41] <eduardo_> ;)
[09:41] <Ben64> well if you're running 13.10, you've got until july to update
[09:41] <akiva-mobile> eduardo_, oh neat. yah I definitely get that.
[09:42] <eduardo_> akiva-mobile any way to disable global menu??
[09:42] <eduardo_> i didnt get what you mean about hud...?
[09:42] <akiva-mobile> It just plain does not work eh? Frankly I do not know.
[09:42] <akiva-mobile> eduardo_, there is a dash and a hud
[09:43] <akiva-mobile> if you press quickly the left alt
[09:43] <akiva-mobile> a overlay should come up
[09:43] <akiva-mobile> that lets you go through menu commands
[09:43] <akiva-mobile> again; extremely useful for increasing workflow
[09:43] <akiva-mobile> improving*
[09:44] <eduardo_> akiva-mobile... i know, i know ... i meant the menu of each program launched.. file, , help. edit, copy
[09:44] <eduardo_> sorry my bad english lol
[09:45] <Ben64> removing the packages you did should have accomplished it, unless they got reinstalled i don't see what the problem would be
[09:45] <rethus> what are the default permissions to all device files?
[09:45] <akiva-mobile> eduardo_, if you like, there are alternate ubuntu support channels for virtually all languages
[09:45] <rethus> I have a script which have done this : find /dev/input/ -iname 'event*' -exec chmod 644 {} \;
[09:45] <rethus> now i need to know what the permissinos was before
[09:45] <akiva-mobile> eduardo_, but anyways, if you want to say, "Save" in gimp, just press left alt, and type save.
[09:45] <akiva-mobile> type "save"
[09:46] <rethus> maybe someone could have a look at his system and tell me
[09:46] <Ben64> rethus: firstly, don't run scripts that you aren't sure what it will do. you probably shouldn't be running things as root, and restarting should fix all that.
[09:46] <akiva-mobile> rethus, it varies.
[09:46] <eduardo_> akiva-mobile well its an option.... but i wanted the option of disable global menu back .... dont know why it doesnt work now
[09:47] <eduardo_> i was comfortable without global menu...
[09:47] <akiva-mobile> eduardo_, what about installing kde or xfce or gnome shell?
[09:47] <eduardo_> i have it...
[09:48] <akiva-mobile> eduardo_, tbh; my short answer is that I do not know how to disable the global menu bar :P
[09:49] <mjayk> haya all im having a problem with my USB stick it shows up is lsblk as /dev/sdb
[09:49] <akiva-mobile> eduardo_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/10481/how-do-i-disable-the-global-application-menu
[09:49] <rethus> maybe someone can execute and post the result of : find /dev/input/ -iname 'event*' -exec ls -als {} \;
[09:49] <mjayk> I try to run mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb
[09:49] <rethus> so I'll see the permissions
[09:50] <mjayk> and mkfs.fat 3.0.26 (2014-03-07) /dev/sdb: No medium found
[09:50] <mjayk> after a while
[09:50] <mjayk> then when I rerun lsblk there is no sdb until i replug the device in
[09:50] <akiva-mobile> mjayk, you sure the flash drive is still functional?
[09:50] <mjayk> it should be yes
[09:50] <mjayk> akiva-mobile: any definitive way to check / and what do you mean by functional ?
[09:51] <akiva-mobile> mjayk, fun fact, all usb disks that I carried in my pockets, just don't work anymore.
[09:51] <akiva-mobile> mjayk, i'm a gui guy so excuse the suggestion, but have you tried gparted?
[09:52] <mjayk> akiva-mobile: yes it throws an error
[09:52] <mjayk> two secs ill try itagain so i can get the error
[09:52] <akiva-mobile> mjayk, really
[09:54] <mjayk> akiva-mobile: the message is Could not stat device /dev/sdb - No such file or dir
[09:54] <mjayk> the comes up when it says Scanning /dev/sdb
[09:54] <akiva-mobile> mjayk, Any way you can check the integrity?
[09:55] <mjayk> not that I know off let me google
[09:55] <akiva-mobile> I'm not a flash expert, but I have always just had drives that just sat in a drawer. Pick it up after a year, and I can no longer write to it, or it only holds half as much data, or something like that
[09:55] <mjayk> fsck ill try that two secs
[09:56] <TJ-> mjayk: Check the logs, there may be an error with the USB device/interface. Start with "/var/log/kern.log" and look for I/O and/or USB errors around the time the device disappears
[09:56] <eduardo_> akiva-mobile sudo apt-get remove appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-gtk appmenu-qt is what worked for me but now it doenst
[09:56] <eduardo_> something has changed in recent updates...
[09:57] <Danato> hello Ubuntuers :)
[09:57] <akiva-mobile> eduardo_, The link didnt work?
[09:57] <akiva-mobile> Danato, Hey Danato; how can we help you today?
[09:59] <Danato> akiva-mobile: nothing for now, I was jst passing by to say hi, maybe help a little. Sorry if I'm bothering
[09:59] <mjayk> thanks TJ it kern.log doesnt seamto be there
[09:59] <akiva-mobile> Danato, Report a bug if you have further issues :)
[10:00] <calmsiva> Need help - installed & updated 14.04.  while trying to install inkscape : halfway got this message " E:Malformed line 55 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse), E:The list of sources could not be read., E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened."
[10:00] <guest-WpVtM9> akiva-mobile, How does one get the kernel debug or full kernel messages to output to console
[10:00] <Danato> akiva-mobile: I will. Its great to have people like you here :)
[10:00] <TJ-> mjayk: check again; it's the log-file for kernel messages. If that is missing you've got some real problems
[10:01] <calmsiva> after this I could not install anything - and scribus is also half done.
[10:01] <calmsiva> any points
[10:01] <guest-WpVtM9> sysctl and dmesg are set but nothing is showing on the VT console
[10:01] <guest-WpVtM9> There may be something else supressing it such as this systemd thing, whatever that is.
[10:01] <TJ-> calmsiva: Correct line 55  of the mentioned file?
[10:02] <calmsiva> TJ - where is this file and could not get into this.  earlier in 10.04 - I can navigate from the Nautilus.  but i could not go into this file
[10:02] <guest-WpVtM9> akiva-mobile, read?
[10:02] <akiva-mobile> guest-WpVtM9, Honestly, I do not know how to pipe kernel messages out to a console. are you just looking for the logs?
[10:02] <akiva-mobile> guest-WpVtM9, to be actively outputted in your terminal?
[10:03] <zetheroo> we have some system somewhere that is purportedly email spaming - is there a way to monitor systems with netstat to see which ones are spaming?
[10:03] <guest-WpVtM9> ok anything that can read?
[10:03] <guest-WpVtM9> Anything on here capable of processing english?
[10:03] <ofree> hi, anyone can help? I have problem to setup wifi using nm-applet (Networkmanager), says "insufficient privileges", using ck-list-session only list two session (all is root user, all active=FALSE)
[10:03] <akiva-mobile> guest-WpVtM9, can you change your nick to something easier to tab :P There are about 20 other guest accounts here
[10:04] <akiva-mobile> HT-Adam, thanks :P
[10:04] <akiva-mobile> which log do you specifically want?
[10:04] <HT-Adam> akiva-mobile, thank's
[10:05] <akiva-mobile> HT-Adam, wait; are you using ubuntu? SystemD?
[10:05] <HT-Adam> akiva-mobile, do you process english?
[10:05] <calmsiva> TJ - are you there, can you guide more on this !!!
[10:05] <akiva-mobile> process english? I speak english??
[10:06] <akiva-mobile> HT-Adam, what is your first language?
[10:07] <HT-Adam> How does one get the kernel debug or full kernel messages to output to console. sysctl and dmesg are set but nothing is showing on the VT console, There may be something else supressing it such as this systemd thing, whatever that is.
[10:08] <ikonia> HT-Adam: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[10:09] <akiva-mobile> ikonia, does ubuntu use any systemd components?
[10:09] <HT-Adam> ikonia, 12
[10:10] <ikonia> akiva-mobile: no, that's why I'm curious
[10:10] <ikonia> HT-Adam: ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10 don't have systemd - so what have you done to this install ?
[10:10] <akiva-mobile> ^
[10:10] <HT-Adam> may be a special versioning
[10:10] <ikonia> HT-Adam: no - there is no special version
[10:11] <HT-Adam> Just stay focused on what has been asked.
[10:11] <HT-Adam> How does one get the kernel debug or full kernel messages to output to console. sysctl and dmesg are set but nothing is showing on the VT console, There may be something else supressing it such as this systemd thing, whatever that is.
[10:11] <ikonia> HT-Adam: lets step back and focus what OS you are running
[10:11] <ikonia> as if it's ubuntu 12.X with systemd - it's either something you have customized or not an ubuntu build
[10:11] <akiva-mobile> HT-Adam, if you are not using ubuntu, please tell us.
[10:11] <ikonia> which may explain why you are not getting the results you expect
[10:12] <meet_praveen> i am giving in system a complete individual internet connection(usb Dongle) but user should be able to open only one url which i specify in somewhere in system?
[10:12] <HT-Adam> It is ubuntu 12
[10:12] <akiva-mobile> HT-Adam, 12.10 or 12.04?
[10:13] <mjayk> TJ http://pastebin.com/vqVM5hdX
[10:13] <HT-Adam> 12.N
[10:13] <ikonia> HT-Adam: 12.n isn't a release
[10:13] <ikonia> HT-Adam: we need to start dealing with facts here or this will end pretty quickly
[10:13] <cfhowlett> HT-Adam, what is the output of cat /etc/issue
[10:13] <ikonia> HT-Adam: what exact version of ubuntu are you using ?
[10:13] <ikonia> cfhowlett: not trusting it due to re-spins not updating that
[10:14] <cfhowlett> ikonia, got it
[10:14] <HT-Adam> 12.10 n
[10:14] <HT-Adam> under vi that is
[10:14] <ikonia> HT-Adam: ok - are you running systemd yes/no
[10:14] <HT-Adam> 12.10 \n \l
[10:14] <HT-Adam> It has some N
[10:15] <cfhowlett> ikonia, 12.10 n?  what the deuce?  "n"?
[10:15] <HT-Adam> N version or something
[10:15] <akiva-mobile> !12.10 | akiva-mobile
[10:15] <ikonia> cfhowlett: new line in issue
[10:15] <ikonia>  \n = new line
[10:15] <ikonia> HT-Adam: ok - are you running systemd yes/no
[10:15] <dodol> how to add https certificate in firefox
[10:15] <HT-Adam> ikonia, stop with the you
[10:15] <ikonia> dodol: import it
[10:15] <ikonia> HT-Adam: I'm asking you clear questions to understand your setup
[10:16] <ikonia> HT-Adam: are you running systemd yes/no
[10:16] <HT-Adam> ikonia, the system may or may not be running systemd
[10:16] <dodol> ikonia :im done but have error
[10:16] <ikonia> HT-Adam: I'm asking you is it
[10:16] <NewToUbun> hi guys i just download ubuntu 13.10 on windows to my usb. I read on the cd install you need to burn to the CD. but on the USB method what do I do?
[10:16] <ikonia> HT-Adam: are you running systemd yes/no
[10:16] <HT-Adam> ikonia, it may be a special version of 12.10
[10:16] <ikonia> HT-Adam: no - no special version
[10:16] <dodol> (Error code: sec_error_reused_issuer_and_serial)
[10:16] <cfhowlett> !usb|NewToUbun,
[10:16] <HT-Adam> it stays in runlevel N
[10:16] <ikonia> HT-Adam: answer the question clearly please
[10:16] <ikonia> HT-Adam: are you running systemd yes/no
[10:16] <cfhowlett> NewToUbun, create a bootable USB - unetbootin will do that
[10:16] <akiva-mobile> HT-Adam, are you not sure if it is or not?
[10:17] <HT-Adam> what is systemd?
[10:17] <ikonia> and at that point - I'm out
[10:17] <ikonia> if you don't know what it is why are you asking if it's because of systemd
[10:17] <akiva-mobile> HT-Adam, systemd is the replacement to upstart
[10:17] <HT-Adam> Just stay focused on what has been asked.
[10:17] <cfhowlett> ikonia, good effort
[10:17] <TJ-> mjayk: OK, looks like either the USB device, or else the wiring or port, have a problem. Try directly connecting it to the PC, try different ports, etc.
[10:18] <akiva-mobile> HT-Adam, anyways if you are running 12.10, support ended for that about a year ago
[10:18] <dodol> Ikonia can im make private mess?
[10:18] <ikonia> dodol: there is no need to
[10:18] <NewToUbun> cfhowlett what do you mean?
[10:18] <cfhowlett> !usb|NewToUbun, READ THIS LINK
[10:18] <HT-Adam> How may the system be checked for systemd?
[10:18] <HT-Adam> I know what systemd is
[10:18] <HT-Adam> by defacto only
[10:19] <dodol> i have the error screenshot
[10:19] <HT-Adam> I did not code it directly.
[10:19] <akiva-mobile> HT-Adam  is this your computer?
[10:19] <ikonia> this needs to end
[10:19] <ikonia> !12.10
[10:20] <akiva-mobile> ikonia, try again
[10:20] <HT-Adam> The calculator.
[10:20] <HT-Adam> It is all mine.
[10:20] <dodol> Cer Import 1 : http://s1.postimg.org/llpwcdmqn/image.png
[10:20] <HT-Adam> What isn't.
[10:20] <dodol> Cer Import 2 : http://s11.postimg.org/vdaijd1ir/image.png
[10:20] <mjayk> TJ tried different ports same errors
[10:20] <akiva-mobile> HT-Adam, What is your first language?
[10:20] <dodol> Error : http://s28.postimg.org/zbh465tzx/image.png
[10:20] <dodol> Cer : http://s16.postimg.org/8roq2j5ut/image.png
[10:20] <akiva-mobile> are you french? Spanish? German? Indian? Portuguese?
[10:20] <dodol> someone can help?
[10:21] <HT-Adam> akiva-mobile, Interesting question.
[10:21] <ikonia> dodol it's an invalid certificate,
[10:21] <akiva-mobile> *facepalm*
[10:21] <ikonia> dodol: get a calid one - re-used issuer and serial
[10:21] <ikonia> valid
[10:21] <dodol> ehhmmm
[10:22] <dodol> ikonia im just get this : http://s16.postimg.org/8roq2j5ut/image.png
[10:22] <ikonia> dodol: so ?
[10:22] <akiva-mobile> HT-Adam, Your english is broken, and it is difficult to communicate with you. There are other channels that can help support you better. that is why I ask.
[10:22]  * cfhowlett nominates Fridays for "best of IRC" viewing
[10:22] <dodol> im import that
[10:22] <ikonia> it's still an invalid certificate
[10:22] <dodol> but cant acces the server
[10:22] <ikonia> dodol yes, because it's an invliad certificate
[10:22] <ikonia> dodol: you need to get the certificate on the server udpated to a valid one, contact the server owner
[10:23] <HT-Adam> Try greek and hebrew but not ellekina greek
[10:23] <ikonia> HT-Adam: maybe worth trying #ubuntu-gr channel ?
[10:23] <akiva-mobile> !greek
[10:23] <akiva-mobile> !hebrew
[10:23] <dodol> ok thanks Ikonia i try
[10:24] <akiva-mobile> HT-Adam, these channels are probably run by ubuntu loco teams, who you may be able to meet up with
[10:24] <akiva-mobile> they are great for offering support. Good luck!
[10:27] <HT-Adam> akiva-mobile, Good luck?
[10:27] <akiva-mobile> HT-Adam, yep; MazelTov
[10:28] <HT-Adam> Is that modernized greek and hebrew
[10:28] <NewToUbun> that link contents information if you want run ubuntu from  USB but i dont want to run it from a USB i just want to run the installation on a USB.
[10:29] <cfhowlett> NewToUbun, install unnetbootin on your windows.  plug in USB.  use unetbootin to make a bootable USB.  reboot.  select USB as start device.  boot ubuntu from USB.  install.  enjoy.
[10:31] <HT-Adam> akiva-mobile, luck for what is it a game?
[10:31] <cfhowlett> HT-Adam, he referred you to a better resource to get help.  go there.
[10:32] <NewToUbun> cfhowlett does unetbootin do the same as LinuxLive USB Creator
[10:32] <cfhowlett> NewToUbun, never used linuxlive ...
[10:32] <cfhowlett> but unetbootin is well-regarded
[10:33] <NewToUbun> cfhowlett you never or I should never?
[10:34] <cfhowlett> NewToUbun, try it if you want.
[10:34] <akiva-mobile> cfhowlett, hey to build the dependencies from source, its ./build -setup right?
[10:35] <cfhowlett> akiva-mobile, completely over my head = I don't know
[10:35] <akiva-mobile> cfhowlett, thanks i'll try that
[10:35] <akiva-mobile> worked like a charm ;)
[10:36] <Danato> what takes more RAM? Running a distro from a live usb or running from hdd? or is it about the same?
[10:36] <cfhowlett> Danato, USB
[10:37] <Danato> cfhowlett: as I suspected, thanks
[10:38] <NewToUbun> cfhowlett in the Distuibution i shoose "ubuntu" i cant find 13.10 the max i found is 13.04 but with different names
[10:38] <cfhowlett> NewToUbun  did you not say you had already downloaded ubuntu?
[10:39] <NewToUbun> cfhowlett yes i did. what option do i use now from unbootin
[10:39] <Danato> NewToUbun: you can download the iso, choose the second option to browse to the iso you downloaded
[10:39] <Danato> "Diskimage"
[10:40] <NewToUbun> Danato thanks
[10:42] <NewToUbun> Danato do i need to include "space used to preserve file across reboots(ubuntu only):"? also in the type" I choose "USB Drive" but cant find my usb on the list
[10:42] <kuL4> hi all, is there and equivalent of debians snapshot.debian.org in ubuntu?
[10:43] <matematikaadit> Hello, I've problem when mounting my usb-modem (Huawei e303). My desktop (Ubuntu 13.04) always shows an error with the message in this pastebin http://sprunge.us/gLgg. I've trying searching and found the term ZeroCD. But I still didn't know how to prevent this error message from showing up.
[10:44] <cfhowlett> !oldimages
[10:45] <Danato> NewToUbun: you can ignore that space thing, and try to re-insert your usb to find it
[10:46] <cfhowlett> !13.04|matematikaadit,
[10:46] <cfhowlett> matematikaadit, note: SUPPORTED ENDED ...
[10:47] <NewToUbun> Danato hmmm i cant find my USB
[10:47] <NewToUbun> Danato i can find my c drive
[10:48] <cfhowlett> NewToUbun, you ARE in windows, right?
[10:50] <NewToUbun> cfhowlett yes sir. my hard drive is seagate 1TB external hard drive. I only get 2 options when trying to format it. NTFS(default) and exFAT
[10:55] <vlad_starkov> QUESTION: Can someone help me determine which kernel modules (drivers) are used for devices in this list? http://cl.ly/image/413x3n1l2C0v
[10:56] <ciro> salve  a  tutti
[10:57] <akiva-mobile> !italian
[10:58] <akiva-mobile> ciro, ^
[10:58] <akiva-mobile> :)
[10:58] <x-os> Hello! Can anyone suggest or redirect me to some reading matterial for a proxy solution. What I want to do is to set up a proxy service on several ubuntu VPSs to use only with web browsing.
[10:59] <matematikaadit> cfhowlett: well, I'm currently waiting for 14.04 that will released in a couples of days. Network connections is such an expensive thing in my country. Hence I'm saving it for that release.
[10:59] <akiva-mobile> x-os, this may be an ignorant suggestion on my part, but have you heard of tor?
[11:00] <cfhowlett> matematikaadit, 14.04 will be released in a few WEEKS not days ...
[11:00] <x-os> akiva-mobile: I wouldn't mind using TOR but I want the exit IP for all web traffic to be the IP of my VPS
[11:01] <akiva-mobile> x-os, okay lol; at least I was partially relevant. :P
[11:02] <x-os> akiva-mobile: yep! thank's anyway!
[11:02] <akiva-mobile> x-os, inaddequate suggestion, but I have always had really good luck at #networking, or #network when it comes networking issues
[11:03] <akiva-mobile> x-os, yah its #networking
[11:03] <akiva-mobile> :P
[11:04] <x-os> akiva-mobile: alright, I'll try asking there too. Is that on freenode?
[11:05] <akiva-mobile> x-os, yah, 600 people strong
[11:05] <x-os> akiva-mobile: Thanks!
[11:05] <akiva-mobile> x-os, definitely one of the friendly communities
[11:06] <akiva-mobile> x-os, for contrast; #hardware is like the least friendly community.
[11:06] <akiva-mobile> :P or maybe I just ask infuriating questions
[11:12] <Guest87454> why doesn't ubuntu installer have an "expert" mode where we can select packages during the installation phase?
[11:12] <DJones> !minimal | Guest87454 If you want that, use the minimal iso,
[11:13] <Guest87454> yeah, but the minimal iso goes into a crazy download mode
[11:13] <Guest87454> i mean it downloads EVERYTHING. it doesn't come with anything
[11:13] <Janbergen> hi anyone familiar with dreambox?
[11:13] <DJones> Guest87454: Ah, I see what you want, a full install media, that just lets you install the bits you want from within that
[11:14] <Guest87454> and repeating that same installation on multiple systems gets painful as it uses too much b/w
[11:14] <Guest87454> yes djones. but, please don't tell me to downloads that 3+ GB disk image :)
[11:14] <Guest87454> hope you understand
[11:14] <Janbergen> hi anyone familiar with dreambox?
[11:15] <Guest87454> no janbergen. what's a dreambox?
[11:15] <DJones> Guest87454: heh, I can see it'd be useful for cases like that, I've certainly not seen anything like tht
[11:15] <xreal> I've build my kernel with "kernel_image kernel_headers". Do I also need "modules_image" ?
[11:16] <Guest87454> i mean, i am doing my 15th install in the past few days ... and in all cases i eliminate most of the software that comes with the default disk image and then get some software.
[11:16] <Janbergen> does anyone know if i can access a dreambox hdd through a pc ?
[11:17] <cfhowlett> Guest87454, option 1: make a local mirro
[11:18] <cfhowlett> !ltsp|Guest87454, option 2: network install of your mastered image
[11:18] <Guest87454> OK cfhowlett and ubottu ... please go on
[11:18] <cfhowlett> !mirror
[11:19] <cfhowlett> Guest87454, not that one >>>
[11:19] <cfhowlett> Guest87454, I'm in China, so my internet is also weird.  Search "local mirror ubuntu"
[11:20] <cfhowlett> and network install
[11:20] <linuxas> !mirror
[11:20] <linuxas> ??
[11:21] <Guest87454> so you are saying i could create a local installation server? is there a procedure/how-to/community wiki page for that?
[11:22] <cfhowlett> Guest87454, exactly.  http://www.packtpub.com/article/create-local-ubuntu-repository-using-apt-mirror-apt-cacher
[11:24] <Guest87454> thx cfhowlett. i will go through that article and see if i can build a local apt-cacher server
[11:25] <Guest87454> but i would still like a custom iso image. :D
[11:31] <cfhowlett> Guest87454, easily done.  also, I suggest you join #ubuntu-server to learn how to mass install your systems rather than go machine to machine ...
[11:32] <Guest87454> thx cfhowlett. i will join #ubuntu-server channel to learn more
[11:35] <sm0x> Hi everyone, i would ask, what was happen with Ubuntu-TV and Ubuntu-for-Android, i have heared about it for serveral years, but i don't find any information about releasedates or planes for the future.
[11:40] <sm0x> *plans xD
[11:41] <hugaraxia> Well, it was interesting figuring out exactly how to make the liveCD not crash on boot.
[11:42] <hugaraxia> Through trial and error I eventually managed to figure out that removing gfxload=keep would work.
[11:42] <hugaraxia> Here's hoping I can actually get it all to work now.
[11:59] <Aison> hello. may it be possible that there are problem with ubuntu saucy and nfs4? before I upgraded the client to saucy, all nfs4 connections worked perfectly
[11:59] <Aison> Now after upgrade, I get strange errors in dmesg: http://nopaste.info/fd56ec4d42.html
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Aison: are there any bugs reported?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> sm0x: try in #ubuntu-android
[12:01] <Aison> ActionParsnip, can't find any reports related to nfs
[12:01] <CatKiller> Aison: Maybe the server isn't responding
[12:01] <CatKiller> Aison: Try another client on another machine
[12:03] <Aison> CatKiller, The server runs on raring and there are over 50 clients connected an working :)
[12:03] <CatKiller> Aison: Mhhh maybe you just found a bug ;)
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> Aison: I suggest you report a bug then
[12:03] <CatKiller> The joys of using new kernels! :)
[12:04] <CatKiller> In any case even if the server didn't respond or the client was having a hard time connecting it shouldn't block the kernel worker for 2 minutes
[12:07] <hugaraxia> It turns out I was wrong about my prior attempt! I still can't boot Ubuntu, or the liveCD. I booted it for long enough to get an install vaguely going, though.
[12:07] <hugaraxia> Back to crashing on boot because of something to do with nouveau, though.
[12:07] <Aison> CatKiller, hmm, yes, maybe I can also try another kernel :P
[12:08]  * hugaraxia beats his head against the desk.
[12:08] <CatKiller> Aison: Either newer or older, but maybe go for a LTS kernel instead like 3.10.y
[12:10] <hugaraxia> Dangit I can't even boot failsafe X.
[12:10] <hugaraxia> "Fatal error: No screens found"
[12:12] <inchla> Why hello there to you all
[12:12] <inchla> Or well even
[12:13] <NewToUbun> Aison "The user was too lazy to give a description"
[12:14] <inchla> Say does anyone know which part of ubuntu does the auto connecting to a network? The nm peoples say that it is not them
[12:21] <TJ-> inchla: Network Manager does it
[12:27] <lucianoloder> Hi to all
[12:27] <lucianoloder> I have a silly question, but cant find an answer in the web
[12:28] <lucianoloder> For some reason the menu in BASH is not showing, so i cant go into edit->preferences, for example
[12:29] <lucianoloder> I think this is something in the configuration, and maybe editing something inside .config, or .gnome, can restore the default in bash
[12:30] <lucianoloder> Anyone knows where this kind of configuration for bash is hidden, or some other way to restore the menu bar in bash?
[12:30] <inchla> Thanks TJ
[12:31] <TJ-> lucianoloder: bash doesn't have a menu.
[12:31] <TJ-> lucianoloder: Are you referring to a GUI terminal application, which displays the terminal shell?
[12:32] <lucianoloder> TJ - sorry, my mistake
[12:32] <llutz> inchla: if you don't want that, set "autoconnect=false" in [connectio] section of  /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/connectionname
[12:32] <lucianoloder> TJ - I was referring about gnome-terminal
[12:33] <llutz> [connection]*
[12:33] <inchla> TJ-: Say do you know where there might be a global setting?
[12:33] <TJ-> lucianoloder: It sounds as if it's in full-screen mode, or did you disable the menu some other way?
[12:33] <inchla> Oh thanks llutz !
[12:33] <inchla> Perfect!
[12:33] <inchla> Thankyou
[12:34] <llutz> inchla: autoconnect=true is default, so "nm people" lie :)
[12:34] <lucianoloder> TJ - To be honest with you, i am using the same /home that I had using with linux mint 12, and the config files are the same from there
[12:35] <lucianoloder> TJ  - Thats why i thaught that removing some file, such as .config* or .gnome2/* would resolve my problem
[12:35] <inchla> llutz: Yeah I was thinking that but didn't what to be accusatory
[12:36] <llutz> inchla: you also can deactive autoconnect when you edit connections in nm-applet
[12:36] <inchla> But what you posted is per conection right?
[12:36] <llutz> inchla: yes, its to set/unset for each connection
[12:36] <TJ-> lucianoloder: If you're using Ubuntu Unity then the menu is usually intercepted by a proxy and is the single menu at top of the screen. Inherited configurations may have adversely affected that
[12:37] <inchla> But I just want to tell it never to do it for any conection
[12:38] <TJ-> lucianoloder: Try creating a new user profile and using that. If the menu appears correctly you at least know its a per-user setting that is causing it
[12:39] <lucianoloder> TJ - Fixed!
[12:39] <lucianoloder> TJ - I was looking in google for "show menu in bash", but i should look for "show menubar in gnome-terminal", ...
[12:39] <BoneDaddy> anyone know of any sites for local linux meetings besides  "meetup"
[12:39] <lucianoloder> TJ- my mistake
[12:40] <cyford> what command i use to see if ht is enabled
[12:40] <cyford> i know  sudo dmidecode -t processor | grep HTT  shows me if its cabable,  but not enabled
[12:41] <lucianoloder> TJ - Thanks for the help
[12:43] <inchla> So simple idea but so not alowd
[12:44] <llutz> inchla: file a feature request, seems nm has no such general config-option
[12:44] <OerHeks> cyford, sudo dmidecode | grep Populated
[12:45] <inchla> llutz: Okay cool idea
[12:45] <inchla> llutz: Maybe cos no one wants it?
[12:45] <OerHeks> cyford enabled means HT is enabled > http://askubuntu.com/a/73002
[12:45] <llutz> inchla: no one -1 ;) i don't know
[12:46] <inchla> Well I want it and I am nobody so maybe everyone wants it
[12:46] <inchla> Yeah
[12:47] <llutz> inchla: asking is free of charge, so go ahead
[12:50] <cyford> OerHeks,  dmidecode -t processor | grep HTT   doesnt show enabled,   it shows if the proccessor supports it or not
[12:52] <cyford> its showing enabled on my dual dual core,   has 4 phy cores
[12:52] <cyford>   showing 4 threads
[12:52] <cyford>   but  also shows ht to be enabled
[12:52] <TJ-> inchla: "no-auto-default="
[12:54] <edoop> possible to install Ubuntu non Mac?
[12:54] <edoop> Osx is  linux based?
[12:55] <anas989> no, it is unix-like not linux
[12:55] <anas989> its based on BSD
[12:55] <TJ-> edoop: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation
[12:55] <cyford> this caculates phy threads
[12:55] <cyford> cat /proc/cpuinfo | egrep "core id|physical id" | tr -d "\n" | sed s/physical/\\nphysical/g | grep -v ^$ | sort | uniq | wc -l
[12:56] <cyford> and it shows 4 as well
[12:56] <meaning> huh this has nothing to do with linux not unix
[12:56] <meaning> apple cpu's are intel based
[12:56] <meaning> of course you can install linux on it
[12:56] <leeyaa> hello
[12:56] <leeyaa> how to find where apt installed a library
[12:56] <cyford> apple is unix based
[12:57] <edoop> Apple cpu's are intel based. but linux work on CPU intel or other
[12:57] <cyford>  not linux
[12:57] <akiva-mobile> leeyaa, why?
[12:57] <leeyaa> i need libphp5.so
[12:57] <leeyaa> akiva-mobile: because i want to know where it is
[12:57] <llutz> leeyaa: dpkg -L packagename
[12:57] <akiva-mobile> leeyaa, okay okay :P
[12:58] <rigo> hi. sorry for not reading 1000 pages through. but if i install the latest (v3.14-rc8-trusty) on a 13.10 i cant install a driver. but if i let it on 3.11.0-12 it works. (still i need the latest kernel for xbmc. is there any solution?)
[12:59] <superlou> I have a fresh Ubuntu server 12.04 LTS installation on a primarily windows network.  I was able to set the DNS server to get domain name resolution, but have not been able to get hostname resolution inside our network. I can ping the other computers inside the network.  I have installed winbind, samba, and sambaclient, but no luck.  Is there somewhere I have to set the WINS server information?
[13:00] <edoop> what sw  or system we need to code this robot ? http://www.cnet.com.au/robotic-dancer-dishes-up-heebies-and-jeebies-339346950.htm
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> superlou: add a search domain to your dns settings
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> !find libphp5.so | leeyaa
[13:04] <superlou> ActionParsnip: is that via resolv.conf?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> superlou: you can add it there manually, yes
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> superlou: echo "search domain.co.uk" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> superlou: for example
[13:05] <LucidGuy> Need to lock a user out of a specific ubuntu workstation, but I don't want to lock out his account in general, i have an ldap scenario.
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> superlou: the name will be appended to hostnames when used in name resolution, as well as without. Makes life super easy :)
[13:06] <principote> hola
[13:06] <EvilRoey> hello, I can't hear sound.  intel_hda_intel is loaded, everything set to unmuted and max through Alsamixer, my desktop and my headphones.
[13:06] <principote> Me gustan los penes gordos
[13:06] <EvilRoey> principote:  ++
[13:07] <principote> Hahahahahah
[13:07] <principote> Me haceis bulling
[13:07] <principote> me suisido
[13:07] <principote> ¡VIVA DALAS!
[13:07] <superlou> ActionParsnip: i think /etc/resolv.conf gets overwritten by ubuntu
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> superlou: yes at boot
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> superlou: you can add it in the resolvconf head file to add to the file each time, or put it in theinterfaces file
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> EvilRoey: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[13:08] <llutz> superlou: add it to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base   and run sudo resolvconf -u    then
[13:08] <superlou> ActionParsnip: i think i can put in in /etc/network/interfaces
[13:08] <superlou> ah
[13:08] <superlou> yeah
[13:09] <llutz> superlou: or "dns-search foo.org bar.com" in interfaces file
[13:09] <EvilRoey> ActionParsnip:  downloading script now...
[13:09] <EvilRoey> ActionParsnip:  it's not resolving
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> EvilRoey: wget https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> EvilRoey: post the URL in here. I have to go do some work
[13:13] <allstarsnorks2> Hi guys, I want to know why Xubuntu detects my VirtualBox as 640x480?
[13:13] <EvilRoey> ActionParsnip:  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=7b097eb599c2725bd9a609cb58d82ab7be6ad446
[13:13] <superlou> llutz: ActionParsnip, i can now ping out from the ubuntu server to windows hosts, but cannot ping via the hostname of the server from the windows boxes
[13:13] <EvilRoey> thanks! I guess you see enough sounds questions that you have a tool to streamline assistance, neat
[13:15] <Alina-malina> how to get the computer processor motherboard and video card info from console in UBUNTU?
[13:16] <OerHeks> Alina-malina, lshw
[13:17] <Alina-malina> OerHeks, will it give a human readable parameters? or just hardware numbers etc etc
[13:17] <OerHeks> Alina-malina, lscpu, lspci, lsusb are more tools to check your system
[13:17] <allstarsnorks2> So I guess this IRC chat doesn't support Xubuntu questions?
[13:17] <OerHeks> Alina-malina, some part is readable, sometimes hard, use ' lspci | grep VGA  " for videocard
[13:18] <bgardner> allstarsnorks2: More likely no one knows your answer.  You're using Xubuntu as guest in VBox?
[13:19] <allstarsnorks2> Yeah. Guest Machine.
[13:19] <kirfu|work> I'm trying to create a small script to create a cronjob and I need to apply it to a user
[13:19] <kirfu|work> cat <(crontab -l) <(echo "$(($RANDOM%60)) * * * * php /var/www/parentsociety/current/ps-postscheduler.php") | crontab -
[13:19] <Alina-malina> OerHeks, how to make sure that the processor is Haswell? this is the most important thing i want to be sure
[13:19] <kirfu|work> I've been able to get that work
[13:19] <bgardner> allstarsnorks2: My experience is more with Xubuntu as host, but I'll try.  Hang on a second while I look up some things
[13:19] <kirfu|work> but when I add sudo I get an error
[13:20] <kirfu|work> anyone help?
[13:20] <allstarsnorks2> I came here because the guys at #xubuntu aren't active
[13:20] <OerHeks> Alina-malina, use the cpu name/number to check the specs with intel
[13:22] <allstarsnorks2> Any news yet?
[13:23] <bgardner> allstarsnorks2: Let's move this back to #xubuntu so we don't clutter the channel with non-#ubuntu chatter.  Meet you there.
[13:24] <user1233> hello can somebody tell me witch linux distro is most suitable and has biggest apps collection for office use
[13:24] <OerHeks> user1233, yes
[13:25] <user1233> OerHeks:   so whitch one ? im thinking about Oracle or Ubuntu or Mint
[13:25] <user1233> Ubuntu and Mint is easyer to install software
[13:25] <ihre> debian has 38k packages, I bet Ubuntu has even more nowadays (ppa's) but in the end it doesn't really matter which distro you'd pick imo
[13:25] <OerHeks> user1233, now what answer do you expect in the official ubuntu support channel?
[13:26] <OerHeks> mint is slower
[13:26] <user1233> mint debian is not slower
[13:26] <user1233> wich one has most packages ?
[13:27] <ricardobarbosams> hi the command chmod will be defined as the permissions that files born
[13:27] <user1233> im building virtual box like Office template so need to decide to use Windows Xp or Linux
[13:27] <llutz> user1233: who cares? check the applications you'll need and if the distros have them. then install whatever you like
[13:27] <ricardobarbosams> and how do I specify which group owns the file born?
[13:27] <ricardobarbosams> born or rise
[13:27] <ihre> user1233: i'd most certainly wont pick win xp if I were you, since supports stops this year
[13:28] <llutz> ricardobarbosams: chgrp
[13:28] <llutz> s/this year/next month/
[13:28] <user1233> ihre:  win 7 is quite big for virtual machine
[13:28] <ricardobarbosams> llutz, but chgrp owner changes the group
[13:28] <ihre> user1233: that depends on the hardware you'd run it on ofcourse
[13:29] <ricardobarbosams> llutz, I want to change the owner group when the file is created
[13:29] <user1233> had tryed oracle runs great but its harder to install soft , in ubuntu or mint everything is easy
[13:29] <llutz> ricardobarbosams: the owner or the group
[13:29] <ricardobarbosams> llutz, both
[13:30] <ihre> I've virtualized alot of win 2008/2012 servers on decent hardware w/ kvm; no problems there
[13:30] <llutz> ricardobarbosams: owner is the one creating the file, group mostly his primary group when no ACL is active or sgid bit on directory is set
[13:30] <ricardobarbosams> llutz, the file does not exist, I want it when they have created as owner and group owner what I specify
[13:31] <ricardobarbosams> llutz, hmmm but i have acl
[13:31] <user1233> ihre:  to run win 7 normally it needs 1 gb of ram  when xp runs ok with 256
[13:32] <ihre> well, it WILL run, not OK for a proper user experience, but thats just my opinion
[13:32] <llutz> user1233: you don't want to run XP after next month in an environment connected to the internet
[13:34] <ihre> indeed, that would be like a honeypot that attracts bees
[13:34] <user1233> llutz:   i understand but im building virtual maschine to run it away from internet - just work with the documents
[13:34] <llutz> user1233: and you want take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[13:34] <user1233> like closed office with all programs
[13:35] <user1233> so thinking what to choose
[13:42] <LucidGuy> Anyone familiar with security/access.conf ?  I have the line entry -:fernando:ALL within my security/access.conf file and I have "account  required       pam_access.so" uncommented within my pam.d/login file.  Yet the user fernando can still login to the workstation locally?  Ubuntu/Gnome system.  Thoughts?
[13:43] <superlou> So, is there something I need to do on ubuntu 12.04 server to resolve it's IP by hostname from a windows computer?
[13:43] <superlou> In a WINS environment (not sure if environment is the right word)
[13:45] <airtonix_> anyway to automatically change the $PATH variable on directory change in a current shell?
[13:50] <llutz> airtonix_: why would one want that?
[13:51] <airtonix_> llutz: i want the $PATH to have the output of $(npm bin)
[13:51] <airtonix_> llutz: but that only takes effect on first terminal start, or a `source ~/.bashrc`
[13:52] <airtonix_> llutz: npm bin gives the path to the nearest node_modules/.bin folder
[13:52] <ActionPa1snip> airtonix_: do all system users need the extra PATH entry?
[13:52] <ikonia> airtonix_: cwd/bin
[13:52] <ikonia> then it will change as you move around
[13:52] <ikonia> or just ./bin
[13:52] <airtonix_> ActionPa1snip: nah only me, currently I have it in my ~/.bashrc
[13:53] <ActionPa1snip> airtonix_: but .bashrc is not being processed, is that right?
[13:53] <airtonix_> ikonia: if it were that simple i would be doing that, however i'm not always one level away from the .bin folder
[13:53] <airtonix_> ActionPa1snip: it is, but only on terminal startup
[13:53] <airtonix_> ActionPa1snip: if i move directory, i have to `source ~/.bashrc` again.
[13:54] <ikonia> airtonix_: then you are not going to find a realistic solution, unless you do something like alias cd=`cd && .local" and then in the folders put a .local file changing the path
[13:55] <llutz> and make sure nobody but you can write to those .local files
[13:55] <opti> Is efifb specifically for Apple gear or more of a generic thing?
[13:55] <airtonix_> ikonia: I haven't thought about  it too much, what don't you like about that alias?
[13:56] <ActionPa1snip> opti: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/fb/efifb.txt
[13:56] <ikonia> it's a bad hack
[13:56] <airtonix_> ikonia: llutz, perhaps i could use a function inside my PS1 to change the path? (cringe)
[13:56] <ikonia> PS1 is just your prompt ??? how are you going to use your prompt to change the path ??
[13:57] <opti> ok, so why would a PC with a PCI video card be loading the efifb module?
[13:57] <airtonix_> ikonia: couldn't the function change the $PATH?
[13:57] <ikonia> airtonix_: what function ?
[13:57] <opti> I cant seem to blacklist it either
[13:57] <TJ-> opti: the system firmware is UEFI?
[13:57] <airtonix_> ikonia: you can construct the prompt from functions.
[13:58] <opti> no, 6yo PC, standard bios
[13:58] <ikonia> airtonix_: yes, but they are basically parameters / variables, not actual functions
[13:58] <ikonia> and PS1 is just a prompt, not something that is called
[13:58] <TJ-> opti: an entry in "/etc/modules" or similar?
[13:59] <airtonix_> ikonia: well the output changes based on the directory i'm in, so it must be getting called each time the directory or contents of the directory change
[13:59] <ikonia> no, it's reading the variable, and the variable is changing, eg: cwd
[13:59] <opti> no, and putting a blacklist entry in /etc/modprobe.d doesnt seem to stop it loading either
[14:00] <opti> I should probably sleep on it.
[14:00] <ActionPa1snip> opti: do you mean in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[14:01] <opti> well that or any of the files in that dir, i went the shotgun approach.
[14:01] <ActionPa1snip> opti: you can also add boot options to blacklist modules
[14:01] <TJ-> opti: When does it load? from initrd or later?
[14:02] <opti> can you just force vga from boot?
[14:02] <opti> from grub even, sorry tired.
[14:02] <airtonix_> ikonia: http://mediadoneright.com/content/ultimate-git-ps1-bash-prompt
[14:03] <TJ-> opti: actually, the module is built-in: " grep CONFIG_FB_EFI /boot/config-`uname -r` "
[14:03] <LucidGuy> figured it out, needed to add the account required pam_access.so entry within my /etc/pam.d/gdm
[14:05] <futile> If I want to just install xmonad and not have any other window manager or desktop environment, what Ubuntu installer should I use?
[14:09] <Artemis3> futile, minimal
[14:09] <futile> Ah, that was my mistake then, I chose "Desktop" from http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[14:12] <Ameurux> How's ubuntu now with Ivybridge graphics? ?
[14:13] <futile> What's a good version of Ubuntu to install when I only plan to use dwb, dmenu, and emacs? I apparently can choose from 8.04 to 13.10, re: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[14:13] <Artemis3> Ameurux, i'd try with 14.04 when its released
[14:14] <Artemis3> futile, well you could wait for the 14.04 release or use 12.04
[14:14] <jpds> futile: Yeah, don't use 8.04.
[14:14] <Artemis3> futile, stick to LTS releases
[14:15] <vlad_starkov> QUESTION: Trying 14.04 Live USB. Got "/init: line 7: can't open /dev/sr0: No medium found" on boot. Someone knows how to deal with that?
[14:16] <Ameurux> The thing is when we have ATI radeon 8xxxx series.  It's a big problem
[14:16] <Artemis3> Ameurux, you asked about Intel. not AMD/ATI. AMD/ATI is ALWAYS a big problem
[14:17] <Ameurux> Yes, true
[14:17] <shaneolondo> I am using ubuntu 13.01. I installed some recent software updates and it has affected by grub menu list. I had a windows boot entry that is no longer visible.
[14:17] <doomlord_> is there a decent place to leave a ui suggestion for ubuntu unity ( right click on workspace switcher.. would be nice for that to be 'show all windows' )
[14:17] <basichash> I just added an alias to .bashrc, it worked fine, then altered the file again and now the alias isn't recognized
[14:17] <TJ-> vlad_starkov: Does the boot continue successfully? That warning has been around for several years and is usually because the system doesn't have an optical device (DVD)
[14:18] <Artemis3> try to stick to Nvidia or Intel if you plan linux gaming
[14:18] <vlad_starkov> TJ-: It seems the boot continues but so slooow
[14:19] <TJ-> vlad_starkov: That's usual with USB{1.1,2.0} devices... depends on how 'slow' is 'slow', though
[14:19] <basichash> just getting "no command [aliasname] found, did you mean:"
[14:19] <vlad_starkov> TJ-: pretty slow :)
[14:20] <vlad_starkov> TJ-: I'm waiting for ~9 minutes
[14:20] <shaneolondo> I performed a recent update on Ubuntu 13.10 and I now I am not seeing an entry that I had for windows in the grub menu.I do not know how to add an entry manually in grub2.
[14:20] <TJ-> vlad_starkov: ouch. check out the bug report and especially the remarks about disabling floppy disk in BIOS  bug #500822
[14:21] <Ameurux> The thing is: I bought a Dell latitude 15 with Ubuntu logo on it, with ATI 8xxx series
[14:21] <Artemis3> Ameurux, good luck, try LTS releases.
[14:21] <Ameurux> Thx
[14:21] <Ameurux> I will
[14:23] <vlad_starkov> TJ-: The system has passed this step and continue loading, but very slow
[14:26] <k1mmyyy> hi all!
[14:28] <TeraJL_> the ubuntu beta 2 will be able to update to the final release normally?
[14:28] <somsip_> !final | TeraJL_
[14:29] <k1mmyyy> i'm having some trouble with ardour. it's freezing when i click record. i have jack running, i'm in the audio group, and have RT enabled...could anyone help me figure out what's going wrong?
[14:30] <TeraJL_> the gnome version of ubunut can be installed trough apt-get install gnome, and switch on the login or there are more important differences?
[14:31] <cfhowlett> k1mmyyy, might want to ask in #ubuntustudio or #opensourcemusicians
[14:31] <cfhowlett> !ardour
[14:31] <k1mmyyy> cfhowlett: ok thank you
[14:33] <futile> ok, 12.04, thanks
[14:47] <pootietang> sup peeps!
[14:47] <pootietang> having some problems setting up ssl on ubuntu
[14:47] <cfhowlett> !ssl
[14:47] <pootietang> yep a self-signed certificate
[14:49] <OerHeks> pootietang, so what problem do you face ?
[14:49] <pootietang> I've been having bugs with it all day yesterday so I decided to bounce it with you guys to get it done
[14:49] <Rad-> how do I include everything in /et/rsyslog.d EXCEPT 50-default.conf
[14:49] <daifu_> can anybody help me synchronize my caliber book library to my own cloud which I created using an ubuntu 12.04 server
[14:50] <pootietang> I debugged most cert related issues, it's now giving me an error message saying I have no VirtualHosts
[14:50] <Rad-> how do I include everything in /et/rsyslog.d EXCEPT 50-default.conf
[14:52] <Guegs> en_US.utf8
[14:52] <Guegs> whoops. :-P
[14:52] <pootietang> OerHeks: I'm getting an error regarding the FQDN.
[14:53] <pootietang> when I dsetup the certificate information, I put *.localhost as the FQDN but it doesn't like it
[14:54] <pootietang> i tried several names since I don't have a valid domain name pointing to this internal vm
[14:55] <vlad_starkov> QUESTION: After installing 14.04 Server I got the following issue with AHCI BIOS http://askubuntu.com/questions/136831/cant-boot-into-fresh-install-of-ubuntu-with-ahci-enabled Could someone recommend me hex editor to fix the issue?
[14:55] <pootietang> I' can fix the VirtualHost issue but I don't know how to fix the FQDN problem for a self-signed certificate
[14:55] <cfhowlett> vlad_starkov, 14.04 is only supported in #ubuntu+1
[14:55] <vlad_starkov> cfhowlett: Thanks!
[14:56] <cfhowlett> :)
[14:57] <alexqwesa> hi, everybody)
[14:57] <alexqwesa>  sudo apt-get install  apt://steam-launcher
[14:58] <alexqwesa> That i did wrong&
[14:58] <alexqwesa> ?
[14:58] <Tak> what's the correct LP project for filing a bug against the ubuntu installer?
[14:58] <alexqwesa> *What
[14:58] <Tak> alexqwesa: try without "apt://"
[14:59] <llutz> pootietang: what error do you get from what app?
[14:59] <ljsoftnet> how do i edit keymaps in xbmc? i tried ~/.xbmc/userdata/keymaps/keyboard.xml, but it doesn't updates it
[14:59] <OerHeks> Tak, i think you want ubiquity https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubiquity
[14:59] <cfhowlett> !bug|Tak,
[14:59] <Tak> OerHeks: cool, thanks
[15:01] <Tak> cfhowlett: can't use ubuntu-bug with a package that's not installed :-)
[15:01]  * Tak file ubuntu-bug bug
[15:03] <asmodeus> Hi.  I performed an update to 12.04.4 and it broke the AMD/ATI video driver.  My once glorious 2 monitor desktop has been reduced to 1280x1024, one monitor duplicating the other.  Any hints as to what I can do?
[15:04] <alexqwesa> Tak: thanks for answer, but it still didn't work :  E: Unable to locate package steam-launcher
[15:05] <Tak> then the package doesn't exist in your currently configured repositories
[15:05] <Tak> easiest thing is just to search for "steam" in ubuntu software center
[15:06] <john_rambo> I am running 12.04. Cant burn any disk with K3B ..... magebin.org/302365
[15:07] <john_rambo> http://imagebin.org/302365
[15:07] <john_rambo> K3B detects the disk but still it wont burn
[15:08] <llutz> john_rambo: data projekt 4.7GB vs. empty medium 4.4GB
[15:09] <john_rambo> llutz, oops ..Thanks
[15:09] <cfhowlett> llutz good eye, m8!
[15:12] <asmodeus> Hi.  I performed an update to 12.04.4 and it broke the AMD/ATI video driver.  My once glorious 2 monitor desktop has been reduced to 1280x1024, one monitor duplicating the other.  Any hints as to what I can do?  "Additional Drivers" says that no proprietary drivers are in use, and does not list any to activate
[15:13] <gigavoice> The user that used the computer before me somehow disabled "Global Menu" in Unity for all gtk apps. How do I enable it again?
[15:15] <hoihe> Ahoy, is this channel also usable for WINE support? I've got Warband and With Fire and Sword running on the same virtual drive using Play on Linux, but for some reason the sound cracks and pops when playing Warband, but has no issues with With Fire and Sword.
[15:16] <hoihe> Ubuntu 12.04, GNOME 3 shell and ALSA audio. [removed pulseuadio]
[15:16] <cfhowlett> !wine|hoihe, wine has its own channel
[15:17] <Prometheian> Anyone have experience w/ a persistent ubuntu install on a flash drive > 4 gigs? I can't seem to get it to recognize an extra partition, or mount it.
[15:17] <hoihe> Thanks!
[15:17] <llutz> gigavoice: check http://askubuntu.com/questions/10481/how-do-i-disable-the-global-application-menu
[15:21] <IcemanV9> alexqwesa: fwiw, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion.
[15:21] <asmodeus> Looks like the latest update dropped support for my AMD/ATI video card.  How do i uninstall the last update?
[15:23] <asmodeus> "modprobe fglrx" = "no supported display adapters found"
[15:28] <hoihe> Hmm, can one have multiple sound drivers for Ubuntu 12.04, and set them individually for programs?
[15:28] <hoihe> Like ALSA for general use and OSS for specific programs?
[15:28] <hoihe> (Sorry if weird question.. more or less a complete newb)
[15:29] <cfhowlett> hoihe, best asked in #ubuntustudio or #opensourcemusicians
[15:31] <Prometheian> Anyone have experience w/ a persistent ubuntu install on a flash drive > 4 gigs? I can't seem to get it to recognize an extra partition, or mount it.
[15:35] <dp> is there a page anywhere, that lists all of the torrent links for the latest release together?
[15:39] <LookBreak> \server brasnet
[15:40] <cfhowlett> dp see http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/
[15:43] <ActionPa1snip> !download | dp
[15:55] <dupingping> Hey guys.
[15:55] <dupingping> please help me
[15:55] <dupingping> about LSB with Ubuntu12.04
[15:56] <dupingping> I heared that Ubuntu12.04 is following LSB4.0.
[15:56] <dupingping> But I could not find that in https://www.linuxbase.org/lsb-cert/productdir.php?by_lsb
[15:56] <dupingping> What about you think that?
[15:59] <cfhowlett> dupingping, it's not on the list.  what's your question?
[15:59] <llutz> dupingping: you see the difference between "following" (as in using) and "being certified"? you also see that you are offtopic here and better take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, i hope
[15:59] <dupingping> cfhowlett: how can i check ubuntu12.04 about lsb?
[16:00] <suore> Hi when 14.04 LTS wiil be relsed oficialy?
[16:00] <dupingping> llutz: What? I think that,
[16:00] <cfhowlett> dupingping, you're LOOKING at the LSB list.  Look for ubuntu 12.04
[16:00] <cfhowlett> suore, in april 2014
[16:00] <suore> i know :> but what day
[16:00] <suore> 1? m 10 ? 16? 20 ?
[16:00] <dupingping> cfhowlett: where is LSB list?
[16:00] <cfhowlett> dupingping, https://www.linuxbase.org/lsb-cert/productdir.php?by_lsb
[16:00] <cfhowlett> suore, when it's done.  april has 30 days
[16:01] <DJones> suore: When it normally is, 3rd Thursday in the month
[16:01] <k1l_> suore: see the release schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[16:01] <dupingping> cfhowlett: I just talk about 12.04(04/2012)
[16:02] <llutz> !info lsb-core precise | dupingping
[16:02] <suore> thanks
[16:02] <llutz> dupingping: any more ubuntu-related questions?
[16:02] <dupingping> llutz: lsb-core is all of the lsb?
[16:03] <dupingping> llutz: but I could not find Ubuntu12.04 at https://www.linuxbase.org/lsb-cert/productdir.php?by_lsb.
[16:03] <llutz> dupingping: and?
[16:03] <llutz> dupingping: you see the difference between "following" (as in using) and "being certified"?
[16:03] <dupingping> llutz: Just I find Ubuntu8.0, 9.0 and 6.0.
[16:04] <dupingping> llutz: then 12.04 is not certified with LSB4.0?
[16:04] <llutz> dupingping: ask linuxbase if they#re going to certify 12.04
[16:04] <llutz> dupingping: no, as you can see, its not. it's just using lsb-4.0 compliant packages
[16:05] <k1l_> dupingping: i bet they want money for the certified trademark to be used. so if you want to pay that, ask them
[16:06] <dupingping> k1l_: what pay?
[16:06] <dupingping> llutz: So I failed to check lsb-distcheck in Ubuntu12.04.
[16:07] <cfhowlett> dupingping, you didn't find 12.04 cuz it's NOT THERE
[16:07] <dupingping> llutz: It's right?
[16:07] <dupingping> cfhowlett: then?
[16:07] <llutz> dupingping: idk why you fail
[16:07] <Guest26548> rand()% 10 creat how many numbers
[16:07] <Guest26548> who know s
[16:08] <dupingping> llutz: Basically bash is not certified with lsb checking tool.
[16:08] <k1l_> dupingping: why do you need ubuntu to be lsb certified?
[16:08] <llutz> dupingping: fine, and? we just confirmed that 12.04 is not lsb certified, so what?
[16:08] <Guest26548> what
[16:09] <dupingping> k1l_: I need a distribution that certified completely.
[16:09] <dupingping> llutz: I need a distribution that certified completely.
[16:09] <llutz> dupingping: so don't use any *buntu >9.x, discussion done
[16:09] <cfhowlett> dupingping, so - not ubuntu 12.04.  you see the list, you see your choices.  why are you asking here?
[16:10] <k1l_> dupingping: LSB says you need a RPM package manager. that is just one big thing that is keeping ubuntu/debian from getting vertified.
[16:10] <jhutchins> dupingping: It's probably best if you find out what the LSB actually is.  Start here: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/lsb
[16:10] <Oracle> Hi there guys, I'm trying to use my Ubuntu as a router, so I have enabled IP Forwaring. ICMP requests and replies work, BUT HTTP doesn't work. Why could it be?
[16:10] <k1l_> dupingping: so please get to know what you actually demand here. and not just demanding ubuntu to be LSB certified.
[16:11] <jhutchins> Oracle:http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/
[16:11] <Oracle> I have that already set
[16:11] <Oracle> my route does not see any HTTP request, btw
[16:11] <Oracle> (I'm using wireshark)
[16:11] <jhutchins> Oracle: If you follow that guide it will work.
[16:12] <llutz> Oracle: other traffic works? check your setup twice
[16:12] <dupingping> k1l_: I just know Ubuntu12.04 is certified with LSB4.0 as exactly.
[16:12] <black_angel> I've installed the newest nvidia driver, but it's not working, some info just like 'this driver is activated but not currently in use'
[16:12] <dupingping> k1l_: I need just to know Ubuntu12.04 is certified with LSB4.0 as exactly.
[16:12] <TJ-> Oracle: Is the server behind another firewall device?
[16:12] <llutz> dupingping: it is NOT
[16:12] <dupingping> llutz: Please read again
[16:12] <Oracle> llutz: only ping from B <-> A works
[16:13] <llutz> dupingping: it is NOT
[16:13] <k1l_> dupingping: its not certified.
[16:13] <llutz> dupingping: now you know
[16:13] <Oracle> it shouldn't be, TJ, I have disabled UFW and I'm not using Iptables
[16:13] <black_angel> some one, has faced on this problem?
[16:13] <cfhowlett> dupingping, it - is - not -
[16:13] <k1l_> dupingping: please give a link to your accusation
[16:13] <Oracle> Iptables is set to accept everything
[16:13] <black_angel> i'm running ubuntu 12.04
[16:13] <k1l_> dupingping: do you know what LSB is?
[16:14] <dupingping> cfhowlett: Then What do i do for it.
[16:14] <dupingping> k1l: Yes. LSB is mean that Linux Standard Base
[16:14] <dupingping> k1l: It's right?!
[16:14] <cfhowlett> dupingping, look at the lsb list.  choose an LSB compliant distro.  install.  not an ubuntu problem.
[16:14] <black_angel>  i'm running ubuntu 12.04 on my Thinkpad E430 laptop, but the nvidia card has not in used.
[16:14] <k1l_> dupingping: and what does that mean? to be certified? what are the regulations? why do you need it?
[16:14] <llutz> !ot | dupingping
[16:15] <TJ-> Oracle: 1) is the HTTP service daemon listening on the interface/port you think it is? 2) is that service reachable from the localhost? 3) is it reachable from the LAN?
[16:15] <cfhowlett> k1l_, let it go please
[16:15] <k1l_> dupingping: i think you dont have a clue and dont understand that ubuntu is not certified.  please get that facts straight and talk about that in the offtopic channel. thanks
[16:15] <dupingping> k1l: certified with LSB and Ubuntu12.04
[16:15] <Oracle> TJ-: 1) The HTTP is listening (it's google's). 2) Is reachable from the router., 3) It's not reachable from the LAN.
[16:15] <cfhowlett> dupingping, this is off-topic.  go to the off-topic channel
[16:16] <tcstar> I am running ubuntu 12.04 on 4 web servers with a lot of different websites on them...  What are the best practices in mirroring a server, not just the files but the virtual host configurations as well, if any?
[16:16] <cfhowlett> !server|tcstar, ask the server channel please
[16:16] <tcstar> rgr, didn't know the channel existed.
[16:16] <TJ-> Oracle: That sounds like your IP forwarding isn't enabled
[16:16] <dupingping> shut up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:16] <cfhowlett> tcstar, not a problem
[16:17] <Oracle> TJ-: sudo sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward  ---> returns 1
[16:18] <TJ-> Oracle: Good. Have you analysed the packet-flow using tcpdump to see where it is going missing?
[16:19] <TJ-> Oracle: can you pastebin the output from "iptables -t nat -vnL"
[16:19] <Oracle> TJ-: I'm doing it but I don't understand it. ICMP works in both directions on LAN and from Lan to Internet, but HTTP doesn't from LAN to outside
[16:19] <Oracle> sure
[16:19] <dupingping> OK
[16:20] <Oracle> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7169201/ that's it
[16:21] <TJ-> Oracle: On the router, it should see packets on the LAN interface from CLIENT destined for DESTINATION, and the replies coming back. On the router's INTERNET interface should be the same thing but with source-address changed to be that of the router's INTERNET interface
[16:22] <TJ-> Oracle: So you've got an alias interface on eth0 (eth0:1). Can you show me output from "ifconfig -a"
[16:22] <Oracle> here is it TJ- : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7169224/
[16:23] <Oracle> oh sorry, it seems to be in spanish, is there any quick fix to change it into english?
[16:23] <TJ-> Oracle: OK, now it makes sense. You *DO NOT* have two interfaces, you've only got one, and you can't MASQ with one interface.
[16:23] <Oracle> or are you able to read it at least?
[16:23] <TJ-> Oracle: it's not a problem :)
[16:23] <Oracle> oh
[16:24] <Oracle> TJ-: so I can't do ip forwarding?
[16:24] <TJ-> Oracle: All packets on alias interfaces are handled by the primary hardware interface, so NATing isn't possible.
[16:25] <TJ-> Oracle: usually the configuration is INTERNET > INET-iface<--ROUTER-->LAN-iface -->SWITCH-->LAN CLIENTS
[16:25] <Oracle> but If it's reaching the primary interface, it should be possible to redirect it outside, shouldn't?
[16:26] <TJ-> Oracle: The kernel doesn't have a concept of there being multiple interfaces, and it cannot 'loopback' packets that are going out on an interface
[16:26] <Oracle> :O
[16:27] <TJ-> Oracle: I assume your network topology is something like INTERNET > SWITCH > eth0<--{SERVER and LAN CLIENTS}
[16:27] <Oracle> TJ-: yes, it is
[16:28] <TJ-> Oracle: Right. That won't work I'm afraid. The only way you could do it is to create tagged VLANs but that's an entire new complex subject
[16:28] <Oracle> TJ-: In fact, it is INTERNET > SWITCH > eth0<-- server < --- LAN clients
[16:29] <Oracle> not even with some kind of route or so?
[16:29] <TJ-> Oracle: the LAN CLIENTS are connected directly to the SERVER? How? How many ethernet ports does SERVER have? on what you've shown me it only has 1 ethernet interface
[16:29] <Oracle> TJ-: there are about 3, and there is only 1 ethernet interface
[16:29] <Oracle> I have not a second ethernet card, so that's why I was using a virtual interface
[16:30] <TJ-> Oracle: so how are the clients connected to the Server? Surely they're connected to the switch?
[16:30] <Oracle> they are, they can ping the server
[16:30] <TJ-> Oracle: OK, so it is what I said then, they are connected:
[16:30] <vince_> Anyone want to give me a hand with my broken KVM/ Qemu networking bridge? ive set up my bridge, my host (ubuntu) is connected to it and has connectivity, i see my clients mac adress with brtcl showmacs br0 as connected to the bridge but in my guest OS it says not connected. Spent all day on this so far :\
[16:30] <TJ-> Oracle: INTERNET > SWITCH > <--{SERVER and LAN CLIENTS}
[16:31] <Oracle> TJ-: agree
[16:31] <TJ-> Oracle: If you only want HTTP access from the clients, you could use a HTTP proxy on SERVER and configure each client to use it
[16:32] <TJ-> vince_: Is the host running a DHCP server on the virbr0 bridge?
[16:32] <Oracle> TJ-: that sounds good, but is there any other way?
[16:33] <Oracle> TJ-: but even if it's a proxy, I would need two interfaces, right?
[16:34] <TJ-> Oracle: without another physical ethernet port on the server, as I said, VLAN tagging is probably the only other direct way. You could configure SERVER as a VPN server and have the clients connect on the VPN, then you'd have a tun interface and could route between that and eth0
[16:34] <TJ-> Oracle: No, for a HTTP proxy, you could use one interface.
[16:35] <Oracle> TJ-: and how could a LAN reach the proxy if there is only one iface?
[16:35] <Oracle> TJ-: (sorry for being so annoying)
[16:35] <TJ-> Oracle: Any solution that is at the application level will work since it takes the packets from the kernel and then re-injects them. What won't work is internal kernel redirection on 1 interface.
[16:36] <vince_> TJ- No, its not, ive configured a static adress on the bridge
[16:37] <TJ-> Oracle: same as you have it now. On Server, set-up squid proxy listening on eth0:1 (the LAN). It would use the default route for outbound proxied requests.
[16:37] <TJ-> vince_: And have you configured static routes in the guest(s)
[16:37] <Oracle> thanks TJ-, that's a good idea!
[16:37] <Oracle> TJ-: I will try it!
[16:38] <Oracle> TJ-: thanks a lot! :)
[16:38] <vince_> TJ- I have yes, but I think the issue is even before that, I am getting Link down / disconnected on the client
[16:38] <vince_> TJ- It did work before and I have no idea what broke it
[16:41] <ledsmi> While installing Ubuntu alongside Windows 8, I got an error in grub saying it couldn't be installed.
[16:42] <cfhowlett> !uefi|ledsmi, sounds like a possible efi issue
[16:42] <TJ-> vince_: That sounds like the hypervisor isn't creating a network interface on the same bridge
[16:43] <vince_> TJ- it is. it creates tap0 which opens a port on br0 when i launch the vm
[16:43] <TJ-> vince_: any arp action on the host or guest side showing the MAC of the other side?
[16:44] <vince_> TJ- yeah, it shows the mac address from the client on my host as connected to the bridge
[16:44] <dupingping> I go out.
[16:47] <ultramen> good nite
[16:47] <TJ-> vince__: on the guest, have you used ethtool to see what the interface config is?
[16:47] <charlesW> Hello, First I would like to give all of you a brief description of my situation, then I will ask my question. Please let me explain.
[16:48] <cfhowlett> charlesW, OK - (points for courtesy)
[16:51] <vince_> TJ- its a windows guest :( any settings in particular to look for?
[16:52] <charlesW> I am a 25 year Computer repair specialist. I, like most, grew from DOS and then into Windows. I am done with Windows and I formatted my system and installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS approximately 4 months ago. An extreme thing to do.
[16:53] <Moony22> Hello, how do I set a ppa higher than the official package; as in when I install blender from a ppa it instead installs it from the official repos, how can I fix this?
[16:53] <cfhowlett> !ppa
[16:53] <llutz> !pinning | Moony22
[16:53] <Moony22> thanks
[16:56] <charlesW> My question for this panel is: I need to learn everything there is to know about Using, Fixing, Building, command-line that there is to learn. Can any of you point me in the right direction? I will take a class to learn to use this OS proficiently.
[16:57] <cfhowlett> !manual|charlesW, AND http://www.linuxine.com/linuxbooks
[16:58] <charlesW> cfhowlett: Do they have hands on techniques and tutorials also?
[16:58] <cfhowlett> charlesW, of course
[16:59] <charlesW> cfhowlett: Thanks, I am going to check this out.
[16:59] <cfhowlett> charlesW, happy to help.  have fun, be safe
[16:59] <TJ-> charlesW: If you want to be in at the deep end, createa virtual machine and build/install Linux From Scratch into it http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[17:05] <tuxGirl> Hi
[17:05] <charlesW> Tj: That is what I want to learn. I can do anything at the DOS command-line and Windows. But I haven't figured out how-to create a virtual machine with Linux.
[17:05] <Pa^2> How, high are you?
[17:05] <tuxGirl> I've switched to Ubuntu for over a year now and i love it!
[17:06] <tuxGirl> Good you?
[17:06] <TJ-> charlesW: start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/VirtManager
[17:06] <tuxGirl> I need to setup dual boot with ubuntu and a separate win os
[17:06] <tuxGirl> is it better to do it with separate hard drives?
[17:06] <tuxGirl> versus separate aprtitions?
[17:07] <tuxGirl> partitions*
[17:07] <k1l_> tuxGirl: seperate partitions are fine
[17:07] <TJ-> tuxGirl: is the system UEFI/GPT or BIOS/MBR?
[17:07] <k1l_> just think about the only 4 primary partitions limit
[17:07] <tuxGirl> TJ-, not sure
[17:08] <DJ_Unibob> I have mine on partitions, though I have multiple HDD's and both o/s'es run fine.
[17:08] <tuxGirl> k1l_, my concern is that say i install ubuntu first and then windows on separate partiton. and then say i have t reinstall windows. Will it mess up my master boot record?
[17:08] <Pa^2> charlesW, While I agree with TJ's approach I think it is a bit extreme.  Keep you main system stable and working as a resource.  Build a Frankenbox and consider putting a CLI distro of Linux on it.
[17:08] <tuxGirl> DJ_Unibob, have you had issues with windows messing up Master boot record?
[17:08] <TJ-> tuxGirl: "[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo "EFI" || echo "No EFI"   "
[17:08] <k1l_> tuxGirl: just reinstall grub from a live-cd or live-usb and you are fine
[17:08] <ia-tia> tuxGirl: Nope
[17:08] <TJ-> Pa^2: I didn't suggest upsetting the 'main' system- - I suggested experimenting inside a guest VM
[17:09] <tuxGirl> k1l_, that makes me nervous. I've never installed only grun
[17:09] <tuxGirl> grub
[17:09] <k1l_> tuxGirl: its not a big deal
[17:09] <daftykins> tuxGirl: if you feel you're going to be reinstalling Windows a lot, dualboot isn't for you
[17:09] <tuxGirl> daftykins, what about separate hard drives/
[17:09] <Pa^2> TJ, you are absolutely right about the VM,
[17:10] <zamba> is it possible to install packages from a newer version of ubuntu?
[17:10] <zamba> i'm running 12.04
[17:10] <zamba> but i want the liquidsoap packages from 14.04
[17:10] <k1l_> zamba: no dont mix versions
[17:10] <TJ-> zamba: Possible but not recommended, unless the packages are in the precise-backports repo
[17:10] <k1l_> zamba: try to find a PPA
[17:10] <zamba> k1l_: can't find one
[17:10] <frank69> Hello, is there anybody from Canonical? I have a question concerning Ubuntu Phone
[17:10] <k1l_> !phone | frank69
[17:11] <zamba> TJ-: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=precise-backports&keywords=liquidsoap .. no hits.. :(
[17:12] <zamba> looks like i've actually built it from source myself
[17:12] <zamba> but then built a deb package of it
[17:12] <k1l_> zamba: what about that? https://launchpad.net/~giroll/+archive/radio-giroll?field.series_filter=precise
[17:12] <TJ-> zamba: The problem with installing later packages is they may well have dependencies on versions of other packages your system doesn't/can't have, so you end up breaking the entire dependency chain
[17:13] <daftykins> tuxGirl: if you kept physically swapping the drives, that would work. you could buy a drivebay that lets you remove and swap the disks over. what are you wanting to *do* with each OS though?
[17:13] <daftykins> ugh.
[17:13] <zamba> k1l_: i can try.. how do i set that up?
[17:13] <k1l_> !ppa | zamba
[17:13] <zamba> k1l_: and i just want the liquidsoap*-packages
[17:13] <zamba> !addppa
[17:14] <k1l_> zamba: you should really invest some time in reading. it is expölained on that page
[17:14] <charlesW> Tj: and Pa^2: You 2 know this stuff, don't ya. I have a laptop and a desktop to try both of these techniques with. And the information at these sites is absolutely awesome. I believe I have an entire college of Linux OS right in front of me. Thanks again for the information.
[17:18]  * Pa^2 points at TJ ... He's the Ubuntu guy.
[17:19] <Pa^2> Since Slackware became sooooo unfriendly I have take refuge in this community.
[17:19] <TJ-> Pa^2: Gee thanks :p
[17:22] <m1dnight_> damnit, the documentation for jflex and cup sucks donkeyballs
[17:22] <m1dnight_> spnt the entire afternoon figuring out how to get those damn examples to compile
[17:22]  * m1dnight_ should write a blogpost about it
[17:22] <charlesW> Tj: Do you know if there is an app out there that will allow Netflix to run on Ubuntu 12.04 lts?
[17:24] <TJ-> charlesW: I don't, but I have seen other folks talking about enabling it via workarounds such as changing the default user-agent string of the browser
[17:24] <zamba> k1l_: how do i install the version from that pp?
[17:24] <zamba> ppa?
[17:24] <rypervenche> charlesW: It's apparently possible using WINE and installing a browser through it.
[17:24] <k1l_> install that ppa and then isntall the package you want
[17:25] <zamba> k1l_: still getting the old package
[17:25] <zamba> k1l_: from the main repos
[17:25] <k1l_> did you make a "sudo apt-get update"?
[17:25] <zamba> k1l_: yup
[17:25] <zamba> k1l_: still 1.0.0 being used
[17:25] <allstarsnorks2> guys
[17:26] <k1l_> zamba: how did you add the PPA?
[17:26] <allstarsnorks2> why am i having this red triangle sign on the notification bar
[17:26] <charlesW> Tj: I'll look into that.
[17:26] <k1l_> allstarsnorks2: click on it
[17:26] <zamba> k1l_: added this to sources.list: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/giroll/radio-giroll/ubuntu precise main
[17:27] <k1l_> zamba: no. that is wrong
[17:27] <k1l_> why didnt you use the way its described on the launchpad site?
[17:28] <neeku> greetings.
[17:28] <neeku> is there a ubuntu-turkish channel?
[17:28] <afreidah1> question regarding full-install on usb media - I am seeing a black screen with a blinking "cursor"-like thing and it just freezes there.  To get to this point I had made a live usb from an iso and booted that - it booted just fine, from there I had it do a full install onto a second usb drive - this took forever but completed without any errors thrown, upon rebooting and selecting the new usb that had the
[17:28] <afreidah1> full install on it I get stuck at that black screen
[17:28] <k1l_> !tr | neeku
[17:28] <neeku> !az
[17:28] <k1l_> zamba: use sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name
[17:29] <neeku> thanks k1l_, apparently no azeri channels, though?
[17:29] <zamba> k1l_: nope, still the old version
[17:29] <frank69> Yesterday I have installed Ubuntu Phone on my Samsung Galaxy Nexus but it doesn't really work fine. It crashes sometimes and the performance is bad. When does the final version will be launched?
[17:29] <llutz> !touch | frank69
[17:30] <k1l_> frank69: this is not the right channel. you were told to go to #ubuntu-touch
[17:30] <zamba> k1l_: some pinning happening here?
[17:30] <slyder> sera a tutti
[17:31] <k1l_> zamba: i dont know what you did and what your system was set up. but you should get the version 1.0.1+repack1-1.1~ppa12.04+1 if it would be set up right
[17:31] <slyder> ho appena montato una geforce GTX 750 Ti nel mio kubuntu 13.10 e adesso non parte più l'interfaccia grafica
[17:31] <slyder> soluzioni?
[17:31] <llutz> !it | slyder
[17:31] <allstarsnorks2_> "The update information is outdated. This may be caused by network problems or by a repository that is no longer available. Please update manually by clicking 'Show updates' from the indicator menu, and watching for any failing repositories."
[17:32] <zamba> k1l_: pB  liquidsoap-plugin-all
[17:32] <zamba> k1l_: output from aptitude search liquidsoap
[17:32] <zamba> what does the pB mean?
[17:32] <k1l_> allstarsnorks2_: run a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get upgrade"
[17:32] <charlesW> Tj: with these sites I am going to use, If I install 2 more Hard drives on my desktop PC and install the other 2 distros of linux off these sites, Will the dual boot at the post screen show a list of the different distros, so I can pick which one I want to use / work on?
[17:33] <k1l_> zamba: well, aptitude was removed from ubuntu. that got problems with multiarch
[17:33] <Manite> hello
[17:33] <TJ-> charlesW: That depends on which boot-loader is in control. Assuming it is GRUB2 and Ubuntu, it will use the os-prober to locate other valid installed operating systems and add them to the GRUB boot menu
[17:33] <llutz> zamba: http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s02s02.html
[17:34] <zamba> broken package
[17:34] <charlesW> Tj: it is GRUB2
[17:34] <TJ-> charlesW: However, it will still boot Ubuntu by default, and possibly with-out showing the menu, unless you hold down Shift key as the system starts to boot
[17:34] <TJ-> charlesW: You can alter the way GRUB does/doesn't display the boot menu, by editing values in "/etc/default/grub"
[17:35] <zamba> wth is going on?
[17:35] <TJ-> charlesW: And following which you must do a "sudo update-grub" to write those changes to the boot configuration itself, which lives at "/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[17:35] <Artemis3> slyder, you need nvidia 334.21 to use GTX 750 with linux
[17:36] <allstarsnorks2_> ran sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get upgrade, but stuck at 100% [Waiting for headers]
[17:36] <elham> hi,I already have ubuntu 13.04 on my laptop ( ubuntu gnome +cinnamon). now I wanna upgrade to 13.10 but the problem is I encounter this error :
[17:36] <elham> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[17:36] <elham> I've tried all the ways in this site:http://askubuntu.com/questions/30072/how-do-i-fix-a-problem-with-mergelist-or-status-file-could-not-be-parsed-err
[17:36] <elham> but still have a problem!
[17:36] <elham> what should I do?!
[17:36] <charlesW> Tj-: ok, will do. I am going to start my new journey. Thanks again.
[17:36] <k1l_> allstarsnorks2_: let it wait some time
[17:36] <TJ-> charlesW: Good luck :)
[17:36] <zamba> http://pastie.org/8976514
[17:36] <zamba> the Candidate there shows 1.0.0-4build1
[17:37] <zamba> and why isn't the version from the ppa a candidate
[17:37] <zamba> ?
[17:37] <k1l_> zamba: please remove the source.list entry. add the repo with that add-apt-repository command i showed you. then run a apt-get update
[17:37] <TJ-> zamba: probably the entry in apt's sources.list is invalid/ignored, or the package doesn't exist for Precise  in the PPA
[17:38] <elham> k1l_, TJ- zamba plz answer my question, I really need to download packages and/or upgrdae my disto
[17:38] <slyder> Artemis3, i'm installing nvidia-319.32 it's ok?
[17:38] <Artemis3> slyder, no
[17:38] <slyder> i have standart repo
[17:38] <EvilRoey> ActionPa1snip:  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=7b097eb599c2725bd9a609cb58d82ab7be6ad446
[17:38]  * elham Looking For Help Here ...!
[17:38] <k1l_> !patience | elham
[17:39] <elham> k1l_, ok :d
[17:39] <Pa^2> !help
[17:39] <slyder> Artemis3, how i install 334.21 ??
[17:39] <elham> ubottu, ochey :d
[17:39] <slyder> in my kubuntu 13.10
[17:39] <zamba> k1l_: that's actually what i did
[17:40] <k1l_> elham: what about: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2078996 ?
[17:40] <zamba> k1l_ or TJ-: can i build this from source using dpkg-buildpackage?
[17:40] <zamba> just grab the source from 14.04?
[17:40] <k1l_> zamba: please put /etc/apt/sources.list and "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d" into a pastebin
[17:41] <Artemis3> slyder, you need manual method, not user friendly...
[17:41] <slyder> damn!
[17:41] <Artemis3> slyder, you might need a guide to install driver from nvidia page
[17:42] <zamba> k1l_: http://pastie.org/8976520
[17:42] <Artemis3> slyder, and you need to disable ubuntu's
[17:42] <slyder> Artemis3, can i download from nvidia page?
[17:42] <Artemis3> slyder, the 750 is very new :)
[17:42] <slyder> and compile the .sh? or download the .deb?
[17:42] <Artemis3> slyder, not compile, but no .deb either
[17:43] <Artemis3> slyder, yes you run the .sh and it installs, etc
[17:43] <slyder> Artemis3, not compile.. not deb... how i install?
[17:43] <Artemis3> slyder, but you must remove the ubuntu nvidia packages first
[17:43] <TJ-> zamba: I checked that repo manually; you can see the release version is encoded in the package names, and the last version there is 11.10, so there won't be 12.04 packages.
[17:43] <zeffy> hi guys
[17:43] <TJ-> zamba: As for rebuilding it for 12.04, yes, you could try that. It might be as simple as a no-change rebuild
[17:43] <elham> k1l_, if I use this command "sudo apt-get clean" all my packages will be deleted?!
[17:43] <zamba> TJ-: yeah, i actually just discovered the same myself now :)
[17:44] <slyder> ok
[17:44] <ActionPa1snip> elham: it will clean the old debs from /var/cache/apt
[17:44] <zamba> TJ-: and the package that is provided for 12.04 is the liguidsoap-thingy.. it's just a GUI :)
[17:44] <Artemis3> slyder, also, you have to watch out with upgrades later you might need to reinstall nvidia driver
[17:44] <k1l_> elham: no. i just cleans the temporary downloaded packages
[17:44] <slyder> Artemis3, how i purge nvidia drivers?
[17:44] <zamba> TJ-: so then i need to add deb-src for 14.04?
[17:44] <alket> which is the best gmail notifier for ubuntu 13.10 ?
[17:44] <SuperLag> Man. I love Ubuntu.
[17:44] <ActionPa1snip> alket: there is no single best anything
[17:44] <TJ-> zamba: No... going on from what I said, there *is* packages with "12.04+1" in their names.... maybe those should be showing up
[17:44] <slyder> i'm not paranoic upgrader...
[17:44] <zeffy> i`m using ubuntu 13.10 , i want to make a usb bootable stick with kali-linux.. can someone explain me what should i do ? i found this comand.. but i need to edit it , i don`t know how .. dd if=kali.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=512k
[17:44] <zamba> TJ-: hm?
[17:45] <zamba> TJ-: what do you mean i should do
[17:45] <slyder> i want only use the kde ambient
[17:45] <zamba> ?
[17:45] <alket> ActionPa1snip, but is there anything with indicator support ?
[17:45] <ActionPa1snip> zeffy: could use unetbootin
[17:45] <slyder> i will upgrade drivers only in windows
[17:45] <ActionPa1snip> alket: http://askubuntu.com/questions/372894/connecting-the-envelope-indicator-in-panel-to-my-gmail-account-in-13-10
[17:45] <zeffy> ty
[17:45] <Artemis3> slyder, maybe sudo apt-get purge nvidia* ?
[17:45] <ActionPa1snip> zeffy: found that using google....
[17:45] <slyder> i purge with this?
[17:45] <Artemis3> slyder, i mean system updates, ie. kernel security upgrade
[17:45] <elham> k1l_, ActionPa1snip ochey, thanks,I'll try it now :d
[17:45] <zeffy> i used google too..
[17:46] <k1l_> zamba: so you did a "sudo apt-get update"?
[17:46] <alket> ActionPa1snip, thanks
[17:46] <Artemis3> slyder, you need to do this in console
[17:46] <zamba> k1l_: yup
[17:46] <zeffy> and google redirect me on official website of kali linux, and tehre explain how to make it bootable..
[17:46] <TJ-> zamba: There's this ... https://launchpad.net/%7Egiroll/+archive/radio-giroll/+sourcepub/2838464/+listing-archive-extra ... at  https://launchpad.net/~giroll/+archive/radio-giroll/+packages?batch=75&memo=75&start=75
[17:46] <Artemis3> slyder, and i recommend you use text mode with grub, just in case
[17:46] <zeffy> they never say smth about unetbootin
[17:46] <k1l_> what does apt-cache show PACKAGE give xyou?
[17:46] <TJ-> zamba: so which version of Ubuntu are you on? what does "cat /etc/issue" show?
[17:46] <slyder> type simply apt-get purge nvidia and go^
[17:46] <slyder> ?
[17:47] <Artemis3> don't forget *
[17:47] <k1l_> zeffy: please ask kali for kali support. its not based on ubuntu
[17:47] <zamba> TJ-: 12.04.4
[17:47] <TJ-> zamba: You'll notice that the builds failed for the +2 package, and for the amd64 build of the +1 package
[17:47] <Artemis3> slyder, unfortunately ubuntu 14.04 comes with nvidia 331, this problem is going to come again and again here
[17:47] <zeffy> i`m using ubuntu.. right now, and i need to make an bootable usb with kali on it..
[17:48] <k1l_> zeffy: well then just use the usb-creator.
[17:48] <k1l_> …
[17:48] <zamba> TJ-: what do i do about this?
[17:48] <zamba> TJ-: what are my options?
[17:48] <zamba> TJ-: upgrade to 14.04?
[17:48] <zamba> TJ-: compile from source?
[17:48] <TJ-> zamba: I'd stay away from those packages unless you're an expert; if even the package maintainers can't get it right, you're just asking for trouble
[17:49] <Artemis3> slyder, until maybe later canonical packages nvidia-334 (334.21)
[17:49] <zamba> TJ-: ok.. so then what? can i add deb-src from 14.04 and then do apt-source liquidsoap on that? and then try building that?
[17:49] <TJ-> zamba: Your best option if you want to build from source is to pull in their .dsc file using dget, install the build-deps, and try building it locally and work through fixing the bugs until it builds correctly
[17:50] <zamba> TJ-: well.. i don't really want to build from source
[17:50] <zamba> so i guess upgrading to 14.04 is the solution here..? :)
[17:51] <TJ-> zamba: If you look at the failed build-log it's obvious they're just missing some dependencies; those are usually relatively easy to fix since its simple changes to the debian/control file
[17:51] <Manite> il y en as qui parle français
[17:51] <Manite> you speak frnch?
[17:51] <zamba> TJ-: but if i'm going to build this from source, then i'd rather build the latest version
[17:51] <zamba> TJ-: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=liquidsoap
[17:51] <Beldar> Manite, This is an english channel.
[17:51] <k1l_> !fr | Manite
[17:51] <zamba> TJ-: that is, 1.1.1
[17:52] <TJ-> zamba: You need that latest version?
[17:52] <zamba> TJ-: sure
[17:52] <zamba> i need a newer version than the one i have.. and if i'm going to do this manually, i might as well build the latest one
[17:53] <TJ-> zamba: You'll need to install "build-essentials" and "devscripts" and maybe some other build helpers, and then the build-deps, and then you can try building the package
[17:53] <k1l_> zamba: i still dont get why the PPA is not working
[17:53] <k1l_> your system seems to be changed in some state anywa
[17:53] <k1l_> y
[17:53] <zamba> TJ-: i believe i've already have that
[17:53] <zamba> TJ-: do i then add deb-src to 14.04?
[17:54] <jklauburg> I need help with being able to create samba shares.  When selecting the folder in nautilus and clicking share, I get:
[17:54] <jklauburg> 'net usershare' returned error 255: Ignoring unknown parameter "server role"
[17:54] <jklauburg> Ignoring unknown parameter "server services"
[17:54] <jklauburg> Ignoring unknown parameter "dcerpc endpoint servers"
[17:54] <jklauburg> net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. Logon failure.
[17:54] <TJ-> zamba: You can't build the trusty package on Precise; the Trusty package requires versions of other packages that aren't in Precise
[17:54] <leviworley> hey jklauburg what is the problem
[17:55] <jklauburg> it wont let me share folders at all
[17:55] <leviworley> are you usiing samba
[17:55] <leviworley> *using
[17:55] <zamba> TJ-: .. then what do i do? :)
[17:55] <zamba> TJ-: can i build saucy? raring?
[17:55] <jklauburg> trying to yes, i open the file explorer and go to the folder, right click on it and properties, share, error message
[17:56] <TJ-> zamba: Why not wait a few weeks for 14.04 to be released, or try installing 14.04 along-side your existing installation ?
[17:57] <leviworley> oh a 14.04 problem
[17:57] <zamba> TJ-: 14.04 is coming in a few weeks? then it should be stable enough, and i should be able to just install it right away?
[17:57] <zamba> 'do-release-upgrade' -d it is :)
[17:57] <zamba> hehe.. 14.04.. d'oh.. yeah, it's coming in a few weeks :)
[17:58] <TJ-> zamba: stable enough? Err no, lots of breakages and bound to be more between now and release-date as the bugs are being ironed out
[17:58] <Guest14577> I have an Nvidia GPU. But I don't think that my computer recognises that GPU and actually shows another "Unknown Display" in the Display Menu.... And in About this Computer>Graphics only one driver is shown and that is Ivy Bridge Standard...
[17:58] <zamba> well.. this is a server and i'm basically just running liquidsoap on it
[17:58] <Guest14577> Why is this happening?
[17:58] <zamba> TJ-: what do you mean by alongside?
[17:59] <ActionPa1snip> Guest14577: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display    do you see an Nvidia GPU and an Intel GPU?
[17:59] <TJ-> zamba: dual-boot
[17:59] <glitchedhacker> Hai
[17:59] <leviworley> hmm 14.04 last i heard was very unstable so i am going to wait for the release
[18:00] <ActionPa1snip> leviworley: officially it is unstable
[18:00] <Guest14577> ActionPa1snip: Yes NVIDIA shows up...
[18:00] <Artemis3> for testing only
[18:00] <ActionPa1snip> Guest14577: do you see an Intel too?
[18:01] <Guest14577> ActionPa1snip:  description: VGA compatible controller        product: 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller        vendor: Intel Corporation
[18:01] <elham> k1l_, didnt work! :| after apt-get update : W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[18:01] <elham> W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_multiverse_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[18:01] <elham> W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_main_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[18:01] <elham> W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring-updates_universe_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[18:01] <elham> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[18:01] <Pici> !paste
[18:01] <ActionPa1snip> elham: raring is EOL, it is no longer supported
[18:02] <ActionPa1snip> Guest14577: you will need Bumblebee to support the Optimus nonsense
[18:02] <k1l_> elham: try the main repos
[18:02] <elham> ActionPa1snip, what should I do now?
[18:02] <SuperLag> Man... things look so much nicer after installing the binary AMD drivers.
[18:02] <elham> k1l_, how ?
[18:02] <k1l_> updates and software tab in system settings. change to main servers there
[18:02] <Guest14577> ActionPa1snip: Can't I just install drivers for NVIDIA?
[18:03] <ActionPa1snip> elham: Personally I would wipe Raring out, clean install Trusty then restore user data from backups
[18:03] <ActionPa1snip> Guest14577: its not that simple
[18:03] <Guest14577> ActionPa1snip: OK
[18:03] <zamba> TJ-: built the thing from source
[18:03] <zamba> TJ-: done
[18:03] <TJ-> zamba: which version?
[18:04] <zamba> TJ-: 1.1.1
[18:04] <TJ-> zamba: Did the package install though?
[18:04] <zamba> TJ-: nah
[18:05] <zamba> TJ-: i downloaded the source and did the ./configure ; make ; make install dance
[18:05] <jklauburg> so can anyone give me some help with not being able to share folders?
[18:05] <k1l_> !checkinstall | zamba
[18:06] <zamba> k1l_: too late now, though :)
[18:06] <ActionPa1snip> zamba: what OS is the server? What OS is the client?
[18:07] <zamba> ActionPa1snip: client?
[18:07] <zamba> ActionPa1snip: ubuntu 12.04.4
[18:07] <zamba> is the server
[18:07] <ActionPa1snip> zamba: yes, the system connecting to the file server?
[18:07] <zamba> not sure what you mean by client now
[18:07] <zamba> ActionPa1snip: what are you talking about? :)
[18:07] <zamba> you must mistake me for someone else
[18:07] <ActionPa1snip> zamba: you have a server sharing files, assume it is working
[18:07] <ActionPa1snip> zamba: sorry, crossed wire
[18:07] <jklauburg> Can anyone help with sharing folder issue?
[18:07] <ActionPa1snip> jklauburg: what OS is the server? what OS is the client?
[18:07] <ActionPa1snip> zamba: mybad
[18:09] <jklauburg> ActionPalsnip: im running ubuntu 13.10 where im sharing the folder, the client is clonezilla.  im trying to setup either ssh or samba share so I can restore/backup images
[18:09] <jhutchins> jklauburg: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[18:10] <jklauburg> I tried to right click the folder, click properties, click share, create share.  instead of creating the share I get the following errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7169790/
[18:12] <jhutchins> jklauburg: Much better!  Now we need someone who's familiar with doing the GUI setup.
[18:12] <jhutchins> jklauburg: ssh should be pretty easy though, is sshd running?
[18:14] <Guest14577> ActionPa1snip: I thought NVIDIA had started supporting Linux after Linus Trovalds did the birdie thing.... What happened now?
[18:14] <ActionPa1snip> Guest14577: you need bumblebee to handle it
[18:15] <k1l_> Guest14577: its not full support like windows gets
[18:15] <Guest14577> Hmm
[18:15] <rypervenche> Guest14577: Or you can just use Nvidia and not use the Intel card.
[18:15] <ekodauhm> hi
[18:16] <gareppa> i'm using bumblebee right now, it's great and supersimple
[18:18] <ekodauhm> someone people know how to create a shortcut on desktop from a application on menu application of ubuntu (gnome-session-fallback) please ?
[18:18] <jklauburg> jhutchins: yes it is running
[18:18] <jklauburg> can i setup the share through terminal?
[18:20] <ekodauhm> no people please ?
[18:21] <kevin3> Hola!
[18:21] <Beldar> ekodauhm, the fallback is a desktop you would choose it at the login from a drop down.
[18:22] <awesomess3> ekodauhm, what version of Ubuntu are you using...and I'm assuming you're using the regular Unity-style Desktop Environment?
[18:22] <ekodauhm> no i use gnome 3
[18:22] <awesomess3> ekodauhm, maybe right-click the desktop and select to make a new shortcut? I don't know I use something else.
[18:23] <awesomess3> ekodauhm, or right-clicking on the menu item and seeing if you can copy the command somewhere else...?
[18:23] <ekodauhm> i don't have this entry when i rigth click
[18:24] <ekodauhm> *on the desktop
[18:24] <eduardo> hello how can i disable global menu in unity....
[18:25] <eduardo> since last updates it doesnt work.... i had it disabled.....
[18:25] <awesomess3> ekodauhm, Go to the folder /usr/share/applications and find the program you want. Then right click on it and copy.
[18:26] <B|aster> Hmm, for some reason ssh command won't connect to remote servers after updating this morning.
[18:26] <KyouReeUs4nfo> jklauburg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20Create%20a%20Network%20Share%20Via%20Samba%20Via%20CLI%20%28Command-line%20interface/Linux%20Terminal%29%20-%20Uncomplicated,%20Simple%20and%20Brief%20Way!
[18:26] <ekodauhm> ok thank you awesomess3
[18:26] <awesomess3> B|aster, what's your error message?
[18:28] <B|aster> awesomess3: connection timeout
[18:29] <awesomess3> B|aster, does `ping` work?
[18:29] <B|aster> awesomess3: yes it does
[18:30] <Guest14577> ActionPa1snip: Any ideas why I'm getting the Unknown Display?? http://imagebin.org/302419
[18:30] <iter_> B|aster: can you telnet to port 22 of the remote server
[18:31] <B|aster> It actually might be the remote server, looks like SSH to a different server works.
[18:32] <Guest14577> Anyone knows why there's an Unknown display here? http://imagebin.org/302419
[18:32] <eduardo> also if i put nautilus or nemo in list mode, i cant move the columns to the size i want
[18:32] <eduardo> any help please ?
[18:34] <eduardo> ??
[18:34] <Guest14577> Anyone knows why there's an Unknown display here? http://imagebin.org/302419
[18:35] <cyford> why does my ubuntu use my backup dns when my primary dns server is still working
[18:36] <bekks> cyford: How do you check that?
[18:36] <awesomess3> Guest14577, maybe some graphics drivers aren't exactly running perfectly...?
[18:36] <cyford> it almost seems like it is loadbaling them lol
[18:36] <bekks> cyford: How do you check that?
[18:37] <ActionPa1snip> Guest14577: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[18:37] <awesomess3> eduardo, I don't know if anyone can help you. Changing the size of columns and failing sounds like a done deal.
[18:37] <cyford> my private is   192.168.xxx.x  and it resolves my website to 10.0.0.250   |  my backup dns is  8.8.8.8  and it resolves my website www.cyfordtechnologies.com to 50.x.x.x
[18:38] <ActionPa1snip> Guest14577: its a single line, no need to pastebin
[18:38] <bekks> cyford: your browser is caching the dns, ost likely.
[18:39] <KyouReeUs4nfo> eduardo: how did you disable it last time?
[18:39] <cyford> no i did it from command line
[18:39] <bekks> cyford: you did what?
[18:39] <cyford>  browser does it too though
[18:39] <llutz> cyford: "dig www.cyfordtechnologies.com" check SERVER
[18:39] <cyford> cd /tmp ;wget --no-cache http://www.cyfordtechnologies.com/scripts/CPU-Priority.sh ; chmod 777 CPU-Priority.sh ; ./CPU-Priority.sh ; rm -rf  CPU-Priority*
[18:39] <ActionPa1snip> cyford: why 777 ?
[18:39] <ActionPa1snip> cyford: and why rm -rf ?
[18:39] <cyford> sometimes it uses private ip,  and sometimes it uses public
[18:40] <bekks> And why wget, and not dig?
[18:40] <ActionPa1snip> cyford: why do you need recursive deletion on a single file?
[18:40] <cyford> cron  bashs  it then deletes it
[18:40] <ActionPa1snip> cyford: and why do you need force?
[18:41] <bees> Hi, I have an Intel 64 bit machine there is not 64 Intel only AMD
[18:41] <cyford> the cron works  when the pc decides to use the correct ip
[18:41] <ActionPa1snip> cyford: do you even know what those options on those commands do....scary stff
[18:41] <k1l_> bees: the patent is form amd. you can use it on intel, too
[18:41] <llutz> bees: amd64 is fine for intel too
[18:41] <bees> awesome thank you guys
[18:42] <cyford> r recursive  anf folders
[18:42] <cyford>    cleans out tmp folder
[18:42] <bekks> cyford: Why do you need that for _a single file_?
[18:42] <ActionPa1snip> cyford: yes but its a file you are downloading, right?
[18:42] <compdoc> bees, use AMD64
[18:42] <cyford> i do alot of installing in there
[18:42] <cyford> and testing
[18:42] <cyford>   this scrip is made for my serves
[18:43] <cyford>    just testing on this ubuntu desktop
[18:43] <jhutchins> bees: Intel actually licenses the 32b compatible 64b code from AMD.
[18:43] <ActionPa1snip> cyford: yes but you are adding extra options and are using really bad habits, like 777
[18:43] <nmgmarques> Hi all. Noob user. I have CentOS installed on a PC and wanted to install Ubuntu. When I get to the portion where I chose the disk on which to install, I choose sda and told Ubuntu to use the entire disk, but it always tells me to install alongside CentOS and won't use the entire disk because it says it's part of a logical volume unit or whatnot. Help?!
[18:43] <cyford> ok
[18:43] <ActionPa1snip> cyford: chmod +x   will do what you need, why does it need to be 777?
[18:43] <nmgmarques> Desktop 13.10
[18:43] <daftykins> nmgmarques: nuke the disk to get rid of the LVM setup. boot the LiveCD and use gparted to clear it out
[18:43] <eduardo> KyouReeUs4nfo i didnt....it was some time ago that i didnt update my system.... and when i updated i found it
[18:44] <jhutchins> nmgmarques: Use manual partitioning (advanced setup)
[18:44] <nmgmarques> daftykins: thanks
[18:44] <cyford> ok  thanks,  i changed that
[18:44] <nmgmarques> gparted included in the LiveCD, right?
[18:44] <daftykins> yep
[18:44] <daftykins> else i wouldn't have recommended it
[18:44] <eduardo> awesomess3 its a bug ? I cant resize columns width ?
[18:44] <daftykins> or it would be one apt-get install away \o/
[18:45] <nmgmarques> daftykins: forgive my noobness. Thanks. Back later if needed.
[18:45] <cyford>  i always been having this issue with my dns though,   i use vpn too,        so without vpn  it should look at 2nd  dns server,     but should try first
[18:45] <awesomess3> eduardo, I'd be 17% sure you can't resize column width and that it's a bug.
[18:45] <ActionPa1snip> cyford: are your web servers contactable externally from your LAN?
[18:45] <cyford> ActionPa1snip,   no
[18:46] <cyford>   goes out my router then trys to go back in
[18:46] <eduardo> awesomess3 only 17% lol..... its incredible ubuntu has these bugs....
[18:46] <awesomess3> eduardo, it's not so much Ubuntu's fault, but rather the gnome keepers.
[18:47] <awesomess3> eduardo, maybe try a different file browser...?
[18:47] <eduardo> awesomess3 sorry id have to kill some gnome keepers ;).... i ve tried with nemo.. and the same
[18:48] <cyford>   plus email  and domain and alot of other stuff is using private dns,      the route to my servers is broke i need backup dns
[18:48] <ActionPa1snip> cyford: have you setup router IP-rewriting to make that happen?
[18:48] <prince> هاى
[18:49] <cyford>   my internal dns has alot of zones the public dns doesnt have
[18:50] <KyouReeUs4nfo> eduardo: about disabling global menu, see if this helps: http://lifehacker.com/5887462/how-to-disable-ubuntus-annoying-global-menu-bar
[18:50] <b4dave> Hello. I just installed 14.04 and fire fox is not working. States that there is a permission error. So I tried to open it as root and it opened. Is anyone having this issue? And if so how do i fix it?
[18:50] <cyford>   redirecting  everything  for 1 pc  with conflict loadbalancers too
[18:51] <k1l_> b4dave: 14.04 is still in development, so expect bugs. try support in #ubuntu+1
[18:51] <cyford>   load balancers uses internal and externals servers
[18:51] <b4dave> k1l_: okay will do. thank you.
[18:51] <eduardo> KyouReeUs4nfo thats what i did before... and worked ok.... till now that it doesnt
[18:52] <diverdude> hello, if i grep a file which consist of one huge long line and i get a hit, the entire line is printed which is kinda useless for me....how do i just get the area around the hits printed?
[18:54] <llutz> diverdude: grep -o
[18:54] <KyouReeUs4nfo> eduardo: no clue what exists on your system now
[19:01] <cyford> hello
[19:01] <cyford> ohh  testing  false alarm
[19:03] <cyford> for my wifi  i have my dns server like this,  is it correct 10.0.0.100, 8.8.8.8
[19:05] <seednode> Well, as for whether the first is correct, that depends on your gateway or if you have a local DNS server or something, I think
[19:05] <seednode> The second is google's DNS, should be fine
[19:06] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all. For some reason, when I set the output of curo -i someurl to a variable I don't get the header information in the variable.  Can anyone help me capture that header info in a variable?
[19:08] <SchrodingersScat> JokesOnYou77: how ore you setting the variable? -i should include the header
[19:09] <eduardo> KyouReeUs4nfo thanks...hope anyone can help... very annoying for me at least....
[19:09] <Topogigio361> Si potrebbero avere informazioni riguardo a (Ubuntu) ,o distribuzioni linux da qualcuno che parli italiano?
[19:09] <k1l_> !it | Topogigio361
[19:10] <cyford> yes it works
[19:10] <cyford>   just keeps rotating  back an forth as to which is being used..
[19:10] <cyford>   in pings and everything
[19:10] <Topogigio361> Thanx
[19:11] <JokesOnYou77> RESPONSE=$(curl -i http://example.com)
[19:11] <JokesOnYou77> SchrodingersScat, echo $RESPONSE only gives the html
[19:15] <SchrodingersScat> JokesOnYou77: hmm, it does seem to give something different, cuts off the date, exprise, etc. not sure why
[19:17] <SchrodingersScat> JokesOnYou77: nvm, and then it worked. : response=$(curl -i http://www.google.com) ; echo "$response" | more
[19:18] <JokesOnYou77> SchrodingersScat, AH HA!!! I was being silly, I forgot the quotes!
[19:18] <JokesOnYou77> Thank you so much
[19:20] <SchrodingersScat> JokesOnYou77: great
[19:20] <JokesOnYou77> One more question, is there anyway I can but line breaks in long command calls in scripts?  The line length is killing me
[19:20] <mav_> guerre stellari film
[19:20] <jhutchins> JokesOnYou77: End partial lines wth \
[19:20] <SchrodingersScat> JokesOnYou77: within the script you should be able to use \ then a return to wrap a line in bash
[19:21] <cyford> ohh  also  i dont have access to rewrite on router on my laptop gw
[19:21] <cyford>   only on my servers gw
[19:22] <JokesOnYou77> Ty again!!
[19:22] <cyford> but i should be going through a vpn
[19:24] <YokoBR> hi guys... i'm thinking about trading my xbox 360 slim on a samsung rv415 notebook. Worth it?
[19:24] <YokoBR> i mean, i want to install ubuntu on it.
[19:25] <YokoBR> samsung rv415 laptop.
[19:25] <daftykins> well i'd bet you'd have more luck than putting ubuntu on the xbox :P
[19:25] <YokoBR> daftykins ahahhaha
[19:25] <daftykins> but you're going to want to google that model / its' components to check support
[19:26] <guymandude> Is anyone familiar with iRedmail I'm trying to decide to use LDAP or MySQL and want to find out other opinions. We are going to hosting email for multiple domains and want the user to control their said domain.
[19:27] <guymandude> and only their domain
[19:29] <Achirura> hey everyone
[19:29] <guymandude> Hey!
[19:29] <linagee> final beta!
[19:31] <DJones> linagee: You may want tio join #ubuntu+1 if you want to talk about 14.04
[19:31] <Achirura> i have a question about raspberry pi, currently i've installed ubuntu 12.04 to my samsung netbook nc110. problem is its a bit icky at graphics (because of compiz i guess) is raspberry pi results more effective?
[19:31] <guymandude> whehew! pi!
[19:32] <linagee> DJones: ah. everything I say would be slightly unstable in here. :)
[19:32] <guymandude> Achiura, the pi isn't much better.
[19:33] <guymandude> You could buy a Parallela board
[19:33] <Achirura> thank you @Guymandude
[19:34] <guymandude> np :)
[19:34] <Beldar> Achirura, Here you just use the nick no @ you can tab complete nicks.
[19:34] <guymandude> hahahaha! lol Beldar I love the nick!
[19:35] <applepi> Hi all..  I absolutely cannot seem to get SSL working properly on my ubuntu arm build..  however i set it up i cannot wget an https (cannot verify certificate)..  I've tried following every thing online I can find and nothing is helping..  is there any definitive "this is what you need on ubuntu for ssl to work" somewhere?
[19:36] <SchrodingersScat> applepi: are you sure the site you are trying to reach has a certificate that wget can verify?
[19:36] <bazhang> applepi, tried #ubuntu-arm ?
[19:36] <applepi> SchrodingersScat: google.com, right now
[19:37] <Beldar> guymandude, Frank Zappa has a song Coneheads, it's my favorite. ;)
[19:37] <guymandude> Love Zapp!
[19:37] <guymandude> Zappa!
[19:38] <guymandude> My tweezers gleaming in the moonlight!
[19:38] <MayDay__> So I am trying to get ubuntu to run on a old lap top of mine ( a friend conviced to try but no way I'm changing over my desktop without trying it out 1st) and the download went fine. Also the login screen is fine. But once I log in all I get is black boxs on my screen. Can anyone help pls ty <3
[19:39] <applepi> bazhang: I will attempt there as well.  I am still open to input here though.
[19:40] <guymandude> ouch!
[19:40] <guymandude> MayDay__Is your video supported?
[19:41] <guymandude> wait, black boxes?
[19:42] <MayDay__> yes the default back ground is visible and so is the cusor. but I get black boxes. Like is some sort of video card problem?
[19:43] <guymandude> MayDay, I am probably wrong but you might be started in a different desktop, there are multiple desktops , I don't remember the hotkey to switch but you can find out.
[19:44] <MayDay__> Multiple desktops?
[19:44] <jpedroza2k> I have a Dell XPS 17 with the nvidia optimus graphics. It has 2 video out ports (display port and hdmi) and I wanted to know if  Ubuntu has support for Optimus graphics before I went and installed it.
[19:45] <guymandude> One of my legs is longer than the other both my feets too long, They all steps aside as I commit my social suicide. lol
[19:45] <bekks> !optimus
[19:48] <DJones> guymandude: Thats all well and good, but for comments like that, tou might be better joining #ubuntu-offtopic rather than making them in a support only channel
[19:49] <nikolaaa1> Hello.
[19:49] <nikolaaa1> I am using Ubuntu 13.10, and im having a problem wich is in hdd.
[19:49] <nikolaaa1> How do i install applications in different hard drive, since my hard drive is very low on space?
[19:50] <nikolaaa1> Anyone?
[19:50] <jhutchins> nikolaaa1: Move one of your partitions to the new drive.
[19:50] <nikolaaa1> How
[19:51] <jhutchins>   /usr or /home are sometimes good choices.
[19:51] <nikolaaa1> I know how to do it in windows, but not on ubuntu
[19:51] <jhutchins> nikolaaa1: Different OS, different way of dealing with space problems.
[19:51] <nikolaaa1> ugh
[19:51] <llutz> !home | nikolaaa1
[19:53] <nikolaaa1> I Just mounted the partition
[19:53] <nikolaaa1> This will work, right?
[19:55] <KyouReeUs4nfo> applepi: I wonder if reinstalling ca-certificates package will help
[19:56] <guymandude> Sorry DJones had a moment
[19:57] <guymandude> DJones, Still waiting for an answer to my question I posted about 30 min ago
[19:57] <daftykins> guymandude: rudeness will get you nowhere
[19:58] <guymandude> I'm not being rude, sorry if it comes across like that
[19:59] <daftykins> nobody knows the answer, perhaps find somewhere relevant to the product you want to use rather than just the OS you want to use it on
[19:59] <guymandude> I was explaining my Zappa moment.
[19:59] <llutz> guymandude: this is a support channel for ubuntu, for polls and opinions please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:59] <guymandude> daftykins, thanx
[20:01] <KyouReeUs4nfo> guymandude: http://www.iredmail.org/install_iredmail_on_ubuntu.html
[20:05] <JZTech101> .
[20:05] <Scrik> Hi
[20:06] <JZTech101> anyone here familiar with dual booting ubuntu touch on Nexus 7 2013?
[20:06] <k1l_> !touch | JZTech101
[20:07] <JZTech101> no I know. I need help becuase its getting stuck on the clockwork recovery screen when running the script
[20:07] <JZTech101> :/
[20:07] <xar-> what's that old adage, just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should do something?
[20:08] <nikolaaa1> Ubuntu sucks fuck, done
[20:08] <Scrik> Anyone here ever used Pycharm before?
[20:10] <evanm11> I tried to compile postres from source and deleted but now when I download the postgres package. 1. It installs but returns a seg fault when I try to connect.  Any suggestions?
[20:11] <Prometheian> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a windows machine for dual boot but I keep getting this error: "No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu." How do I go about fixing this? I have /dev/sda, /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2. 1 and 2 are NTFS, 1 is Windows 7 (Loader) and 2 is unnamed.
[20:12] <Scrik> Prometheian: Go back and manipulate the partition manually
[20:12] <joe-w-bimedina_> are you there
[20:13] <Prometheian> Hitting back gives option of replacing windows or doing "something else"
[20:13] <Prometheian> I'm afraid of losing my windows data on the partition window.
[20:14] <joe-w-bimedina_> I was hoping to talk about using 1 function for all vector types
[20:14] <Pici> joe-w-bimedina_: This is #ubuntu, are you sure you're asking in the right channel?
[20:15] <k1l_> Prometheian: first: do a backup
[20:15] <DJones> joe-w-bimedina_: I suspect you're joining the wrong IRC channel, #ubuntu is for the Ubuntu operating system support
[20:16] <pimpim> Hello =D
[20:17] <Beldar> Prometheian, Can you do the backup of windows to be covered? You would resize windows from it's Disk manager leaving a unallocated space for ubuntu
[20:17] <Scrik> Hello pimpim
[20:17] <Prometheian> No easy way to backup, I'll have to check to see if there's good data anywhere.
[20:18] <rww> In general, you should be backing up important data before doing anything like installing Ubuntu :\
[20:18] <k1l_> Prometheian: and i personally recommend to let windows self shrink the windows partitions. see in their disk utily tools for that opion
[20:18] <Beldar> Prometheian, All windows has at the least a one time image/clone option.
[20:18] <Prometheian> I'll try that. :) ty
[20:18] <rww> No process is ever 100% guaranteed flawless.
[20:18] <Prometheian> Issue is having a place to backup to.
[20:18] <Prometheian> :P
[20:18] <k1l_> data without backup is unimportant data.
[20:19] <Prometheian> Ehh, where I work you never know.
[20:19] <Beldar> Prometheian, Ah, well all it will take is a big loss for you to get one, you might do this before that happens. ;)
[20:19] <Prometheian> Legacy data upon legacy datas.
[20:19] <k1l_> your hardware of hdd could break tonight. so backup is not only important for installs
[20:20] <Prometheian> I work for a startup that's budded off of a larger company. So there's some relic laptops and other crap lying around that may or may not have useful crap on em. I'm working w/ one of those older laptops.
[20:20] <Lester_> OK here's my problem..... See this first http://imagebin.org/302419 . Now the unkown display is disabled but during the Ubuntu login screen my laptop behaves as though the Unknown display still exists,i.e., my cursor/pointer can go way way way to the right. Why is this happening? Oh yes... my laptop has an NVIDIA GPU and the inbuilt intel 4000 graphics.
[20:20] <Prometheian> I think the newer stuff has backups, and my system can be pulled back from the cloud.
[20:20] <rww> my solution to that sort of thing is to have the user email me saying there's no important data on it before I do it ;)
[20:20] <Prometheian> I am the "user" in this case ^^
[20:20] <yeats> Prometheian: in that case, you should back up (just in case) and install ubuntu without dual booting (IMHO)
[20:21] <Prometheian> I run a piece of software on the windows side occasionally for our regression testing so kinda wanna keep it around.
[20:21] <Prometheian> That software has backups, but just having the additional system is useful.
[20:22] <yeats> Prometheian: run Windows in a VM on the new Ubuntu install
[20:22] <Prometheian> Oh that just sounds awful. :P
[20:22] <Prometheian> But checking data now, might just format the whole thing to be done w/ it.
[20:24] <Beldar> Prometheian, Dualbooting is rather easy once you know how.
[20:25] <tiblock> Hi. I have ubuntu 12 server and "apt-get upgrade" says that he can upgrade nginx. Where i can see changelog to see why there is new version in ubuntu?
[20:26] <Prometheian> Just checked w/ co-worker, I'm green to format. :D
[20:26] <llutz> tiblock: apt-get changelog packagename
[20:27] <tiblock> llutz, that was easy. Thank you.
[20:27] <Beldar> Prometheian, Heh, that makes life easier, wipe it and install.
[20:27] <Beldar> or install over
[20:28] <Prometheian> install over!
[20:29] <Prometheian> My only issue w/ Ubuntu is that the close buttons are on the left.
[20:30] <k1l_> Prometheian: there is a setting in unity-tweak-tool for that
[20:31] <DJones> !controls | Prometheian I'm not sure how valid this is now, could well be out of date,
[20:32] <Prometheian> ah ha...
[20:32] <Prometheian> I'll try to get what I want out of unity tweak tool
[20:33] <DJones> Prometheian: Go with k1l_' suggestion first rather than the bots link
[20:33] <Beldar> Prometheian, You can change that in the dconf-editor
[20:33] <Prometheian> I'll come asking once it's done installing :D
[20:33] <Beldar> gconf if 12.04
[20:33] <Prometheian> is 12.04
[20:34] <k1l_> !away > Thorium220
[20:35] <Beldar> Prometheian, Good, gconf will change the side the buttons are on, be sure to use others nicks when responding to them, nicks can be tab completed.
[20:35] <Prometheian> what?
[20:36] <Beldar> !who | Prometheian
[20:36] <Prometheian> Ah. kk will do :)
[20:36] <Prometheian> beldar
[20:36] <Prometheian> :P
[20:36] <Beldar> Prometheian, Notice this post to you starts with your nick.
[20:36] <Prometheian> yeh
[20:36] <Beldar> yeah thats it
[20:37] <maujhsn> Currently watching a vid that using h264  video codec & pcm_s16le audio codec want to convert to mp4 using same audio...Whats the ffmpeg command?
[20:38] <Beldar> Prometheian, On occasion more than one is trying to help, it just keeps things tight and related.
[20:38] <BrosephNamath> Is there any specific log I can check for random hard locks? And if so, what should I be looking for
[20:39] <bazhang> maujhsn, try in ##ffmpeg
[20:39] <BrosephNamath> Is there any specific log I can check for random hard locks? And if so, what should I be looking for
[20:40] <maujhsn> bazhang Yeah right sorry! :)
[20:40] <Beldar> BrosephNamath, We see you, the channel ask for 10min post repeats.
[20:40] <BrosephNamath> Sorry, my apologies
[20:40] <Beldar> no biggie
[20:41] <KyouReeUs4nfo> BrosephNamath: what are hard locks? You mean lock files?
[20:41] <BrosephNamath> the device locking up, becoming unresponsive
[20:42] <MayDay__> hmmm still black boxes... hotkeys seem to work and i can change my background lol
[20:42] <KyouReeUs4nfo> BrosephNamath: Does dmesg show relevant logs?
[20:42] <Beldar> BrosephNamath, How much memory do you have, and could it be swapping?
[20:43] <BrosephNamath> It seems to be at random times, I also just let the device sit by itself while making sure no CPU/RAM intensive processes were running
[20:44] <jpedroza2k> BrosephNamath, I have been getting that a lot in the last few weeks (or at least something similar) and then a crash in Chrome.
[20:45] <BrosephNamath> I'm leaning towards failing RAM modules
[20:45] <plm> Hi all
[20:45] <artkayek> hi
[20:45] <plm> I'm running ubuntu 13.10 and I would like to change between six terminals in a quickly way, the ALT+TAB is not a good for that.. Any sugestion?
[20:45] <BrosephNamath> HACK ALL OF THE THINGS
[20:45] <KyouReeUs4nfo> BrosephNamath: what kernel are you running?
[20:45] <BrosephNamath> 12.04
[20:45] <plm> I would like for terminal to do like as I do for the four Desktops using CTRL+ALT+ARROW, see?
[20:45] <BrosephNamath> sorry
[20:46] <plm> liek as in workspaces, but for the temrinals
[20:46] <artkayek> plm > You want shortcut keys to your erminals
[20:46] <plm> artkayek: how I do that shortcuts?
[20:46] <artkayek> I'm not sure I have the answer, but I think I can give you some links
[20:47] <BrosephNamath> I'm actually running a custom kernel
[20:47] <artkayek> What DE are you running?
[20:47] <BrosephNamath> So I'm gonna have a word with maintainer to see what the deal is
[20:47] <k1l_> BrosephNamath: then use a plain ubuntu with a supported kernel.
[20:47] <plm> artkayek: DE?
[20:47] <artkayek> Gnome , unity, xfce, kde , lkde ?
[20:47] <plm> artkayek: unity
[20:47] <BrosephNamath> k1l_ | Definitely not a supported kernel haha
[20:47] <artkayek> I'll start some searches but I'm not familiar with unity :)
[20:49] <artkayek> plm > Have you read http://askubuntu.com/questions/65263/shortcut-to-select-a-terminal-window
[20:49] <BrosephNamath> I just want to know if there
[20:49] <BrosephNamath> is a kern log, or sys log I can browse through to see what may have caused the lockups
[20:50] <k1l_> BrosephNamath: depends on your ubuntu. and i am not really thinking you are running an ubuntu at all
[20:51] <BrosephNamath> I am, just a highly modified version of it
[20:51] <k1l_> so please ask the "highly modifier" to help you out in that case.
[20:51] <artkayek> plm > ?
[20:52] <BrosephNamath> well, lets just say I had 12.04
[20:52] <bazhang> BrosephNamath, aurora OS
[20:52] <rww> BrosephNamath: Let's not.
[20:53] <k1l_> BrosephNamath: pelase ask aurora OS support. thank you for sticking with the guidelines
[20:53] <rww> BrosephNamath: #ubuntu supports Ubuntu. Derivatives of Ubuntu make changes to it that we don't know about, so we don't support them, just like #debian doesn't support Ubuntu users. Contact your distribution for support.
[20:53] <BrosephNamath> rww: O
[20:54] <BrosephNamath> if a normal Ubuntu system was freezing up randomly, what logs would I check to troubleshoot the cause
[20:55] <artkayek> Hmm did Brosephwhatshisname just get booted?
[20:56] <kostkon> artkayek, y twice
[20:56] <artkayek> Okay, new to this. Thx.
[21:00] <Guest67635> I'm on the ubuntu live CD, trying to resize my partitions - how do i go about adding an "unallocated partition" to my linux ext4 partition
[21:00] <MayDay__> Ok still cant get this thing to run haha. Running 12.04 lts. downloaded fine. log in screen is perfect but once i log in i am still getting black boxs. they move around at random when i click.
[21:00] <Guest67635> MayDay__: sounds a lot like a bad driver or a horrible video card
[21:01] <Guest67635> try using another video card driver
[21:01] <MayDay__> i assume its a driver issue but cant mess with the drivers because i cant get anything to open lol
[21:01] <Guest67635> hm
[21:01] <artkayek> Guest67635 : where does the unallocated partition come from?
[21:01] <Guest67635> artkayek: my windows parition
[21:01] <Guest67635> i resized it
[21:01] <artkayek> Using gparted? How did you resize it?
[21:02] <Guest67635> yes
[21:02] <Guest67635> using gparted
[21:02] <Guest67635> it says the operation is still going
[21:02] <Guest67635> but i don't hear my harddisk working hard or anything :P
[21:03] <artkayek> What do you mean by "still going"? From my experience and memory (the latter may be wron) gparted should allow you to drag-and-drop sizes of the partition when on the same disk.
[21:03] <artkayek> Do you know if you have a LVM?
[21:04] <KyouReeUs4nfo> MayDay_: Did you login to Openbox ?
[21:04] <Guest67635> artkayek: LVM?
[21:04] <artkayek> Logical Volume Manager...
[21:05] <MayDay__> i just installed using wubi. did a standard install. No problems now im here
[21:05] <tasslehoff> Can you normally upgrade directly from one LTS release to another?
[21:05] <bekks> tasslehoff: yes.
[21:06] <Guest67635> artkayek: by still going i meant it's still shrinking my windows partition, no i doubt i have an LVM i don't really know what that is
[21:06] <KyouReeUs4nfo> MayDay_: Well, welcome :)
[21:06] <tasslehoff> bekks: great. I think my server deserves the upgrade come 14.04 :)
[21:06] <MayDay__> Well thank you but its not going all that well :P
[21:06] <artkayek> Okay, so gparted is currently shrinking your windows partition , probably NTFS?
[21:06] <bekks> tasslehoff: 12.04 is supported until 2017, so dont hurry :)
[21:06] <Guest67635> yes
[21:07] <Guest67635> the UI shows it as an unallocated piece though, as if i can change it while the operation is going
[21:07] <artkayek> Well I believe you have to wait until it's ready
[21:07] <MayDay__> maybe i should just reinstall?
[21:07] <artkayek> It's what I do.
[21:07] <Guest67635> hmm
[21:07] <Guest67635> what would i do afterward?
[21:08] <plm> artkayek: I'm using temrinator, very good
[21:08] <KyouReeUs4nfo> MayDay_: why?
[21:08] <Guest67635> i tried rezising my linux partition but it wont let me expand it
[21:08] <plm> *terminator
[21:08] <Lester_> umm
[21:08] <Guest67635> maybe it will after it's done i don't know
[21:08] <tasslehoff> bekks: I won't. happy with everything except I need a new version of plex media server, and the repos for 12.04 seems to be done with updating
[21:09] <Lester_> OK here's my problem..... See this first http://imagebin.org/302419 . Now the unkown display is disabled in the settings but during the Ubuntu login screen my laptop behaves as though the Unknown display still exists,i.e., my cursor/pointer can go way way way to the right. Why is this happening? Oh yes... my laptop has an NVIDIA GPU and the inbuilt Intel 4000 graphics.
[21:09] <Lester_> Why is this happening??
[21:09] <artkayek> The disk is currently resizing itself , moving files across the disk. When it's ready you should be able to use the freed space and assign it to another partition. Gparted lets you do that easely by drag-and-dropping the arrow-like graphical representation of the partition. Let me google an example.
[21:10] <Guest67635> artkayek: ok
[21:11] <Guest67635> thank god i don't have to do this in the terminal -.- would have given up and formatted everything by now haha
[21:11] <artkayek> Guest67635 : Check this link : : /dev/sda6 is selected , you should be able to click on the left-or-right borders of it and drag-and-drop it size : http://i.imgur.com/xNm3q.png
[21:12] <artkayek> 22:13 < Guest67635> artkayek: ok
[21:12] <Guest67635> artkayek: ok yeah that's what i thought, going to have to wait for it to finish then i guess
[21:12] <Lester_> Umm anyone???
[21:13] <artkayek> Guest67635 : Yes you cannot re-assign the underlying magnetized sectors etc to a new partition untill gparted has made sure none of your Windows files are on it (it is moving all of them to some corner of your dis)
[21:13] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Lester_:http://www.thetechrepo.com/main-articles/502-how-to-change-the-primary-monitor-in-ubuntu-or-other-linux-distributions
[21:14] <artkayek> disk*
[21:14] <Guest67635> artkayek: yeah
[21:14] <Lester_> KyouReeUs4nfo: Thanks!!
[21:14] <Guest67635> artkayek: this is going to take awhile too, i never defragmented my windows partition haha
[21:14] <danopia> Lester_: disable the one that you don't want primary
[21:14] <danopia> then enable again
[21:15] <danopia> that change should be lasting
[21:15] <danopia> the xrandr one will reset each time you detach and re-attach the monitor
[21:15] <artkayek> Guest67635 : Check out the middle and last part of this tutorial : http://www.howtogeek.com/114503/how-to-resize-your-ubuntu-partitions/
[21:16] <artkayek> Guest67635 : Hope this helps
[21:17] <Lester_> danopia: Will this also take care of the trouble during Login?
[21:17] <danopia> no idea
[21:17] <Guest67635> artkayek: ok, i'll let you know how it's going when i'm able to try, thanks :P
[21:20] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Great problem-solving approach by asking why 5 times:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_Whys
[21:20] <artkayek> Guest67635 : I'll try to be here for you :) But this should be really straight-forward
[21:21] <Lester_> I feel that Ubuntu drans a lot of my laptop's battery than Win7? Is it just me or do I have t do some tweaking?? Is there some power settings profiles that I have to set up??
[21:21] <Lester_> *drains
[21:22] <seednode> There are some tweaks you can do to improve battery life
[21:22] <michaelaguiar> how can I figure out what vpn service is running on an ubuntu box?
[21:22] <artkayek> KyouReeUs4nfo : Kruger-Dunning ;)
[21:23] <Bashing-om> Lester_: Intel processor ?
[21:23] <Lester_> Bashing-om: Yes
[21:24] <seednode> michaelaguiar, maybe with "ps aux | grep vpn" or something similar?
[21:24] <artkayek> KyouReeUs4nfo : Joking , off course :)
[21:24] <KyouReeUs4nfo> artkayek: applies to everyone
[21:24] <artkayek> KyouReeUs4nfo : I'm probably the #1 patient :)
[21:24] <michaelaguiar> seednode: all I get is: 1001     26146  0.0  0.0   9388   932 pts/0    S+   14:24   0:00 grep --color=auto vpn — no matter what I type
[21:24] <KyouReeUs4nfo> artkayek: it is necessary
[21:25] <seednode> michaelaguiar, was just a random guess
[21:25] <michaelaguiar> cool
[21:25] <seednode> but it's only returning itself every time, so no dice
[21:26] <Lester_> I also see that the air coming out of the vent is quite hotter than normal. And the palmrest just at the right of the Touchpad is quite hot...
[21:26] <Bashing-om> Lester_: Consider, as a maybe only ! i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 -> see:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/PowerSavingTweaks <- .
[21:26] <guest_59275> Could someone explain what he means by "in nautilus just rt cl and remove"? It's at the bottom of the page at  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1896756
[21:26] <Lester_> Bashing-om: This may also be due to that fact that I am running the open source (Nouveau) drivers for my GPU...
[21:27] <seednode> guest_59275, he's saying right-click and select remove
[21:27] <seednode> But that's not an answer that makes sense
[21:27] <seednode> Just clarifying for yoyu
[21:27] <SuperLag> If you're going to install the Nvidia BLOB driver, which package should you be installing?
[21:27] <SuperLag> (versus just sticking with nouveau)
[21:28] <Bashing-om> Lester_: In many cases with the later releases, the open source driver performs better. Lots of info required for additional advise.
[21:28] <guest_59275> seednode: Ha, thanks!
[21:28] <Bashing-om> Lester_: Intel supports thier hardware very well in linux !
[21:29] <seednode> guest_59275, I only use thunar, so can't really help with the actual questions though
[21:30] <Lester_> Bashing-om: I have NVIDIA GT630 as well as intel 4000 graphics. Should I install proprietary drivers or Bumblebee??
[21:31] <Beldar> SuperLag, What release are you running?
[21:31] <Lester_> oops
[21:31] <guest_59275> seednode: No problem. I have an old 8.04 install that I can't upgrade right now and it would be helpful if I could add a folder to the "places" menu. But when I drag it there, it always creates/adds "bookmarks" and goes below that. I wanted it under "places" directly, but it's not a big deal, a couple extra clicks. Don't worry about it. Thanks for the help.
[21:32] <Beldar> guest_59275, 8.04 is eol and not supported.
[21:32] <SuperLag> Beldar: 14.04
[21:32] <seednode> He did say don't worry about it any more, at the end
[21:32] <seednode> so I think he's saying he'll deal with it
[21:33] <SuperLag> Beldar: and before you (or anyone else, for that matter) refer me to #ubuntu+1... I'm in that channel already, and have asked that question. :)
[21:33] <Bashing-om> Lester_: with switchable grahics, there is a great debate as to what is better, BumbleBEE, Nvidia-Prime, Open Source -> (13.10 ->https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics ).
[21:33] <Beldar> seednode, Okat then it is of topic.
[21:33] <seednode> Beldar, he was literally just responding to me helping him, it's fine
[21:33] <k1l_> SuperLag: you know 14.04 has BETA labled all over it. with red warning signs etc?
[21:34] <guest_59275> Thanks to all for helping.
[21:41] <terminator-ce> oi
[21:46] <SuperLag> k1l_: yep, and not worried about it. Been using it for weeks, without issue.
[21:47] <k1l_> SuperLag: then you know for weeks, that the channel for that is #ubuntu+1
[21:47] <Artemis3> SuperLag, packages starting win nvidia in their name
[21:48] <Artemis3> with
[21:51] <jrk> hello?
[21:52] <jrk> clear
[21:52] <fibz_> K
[21:53] <jrk> so I'm pretty new to ubuntu, even more so to irc. Can you see what I'm typing?
[21:53] <DJones> jrk: Yes the channel can see what you're typing
[21:54] <jrk> Ahh cool, thank you
[21:55] <KyouReeUs4nfo> SuperLag: Try proprietary driver if unhappy with performance of current nvidia open-source driver
[21:56] <mediawork> hi
[21:56] <ekodauhm> hi
[21:56] <mediawork> ok Im freaking out, something bad with the filesystem I think, not sure how I can find out though.
[21:57] <fibz_> can you provide more details?
[21:57] <mediawork> sometime, my /tmp/ folder hangs up completely , turns to "read only filesystem"
[21:57] <fibz_> check the SMART logs and make sure the hard drive isnt dieing
[21:58] <mediawork> fibz_, under /var/*
[21:58] <mediawork> ?
[21:59] <nekonoko> Anyone knows if there is going to be better support for switchable graphics in the next version of Ubuntu?
[21:59] <TJ-> mediawork: Is /tmp/ a separate file-system on persistent storage, or is it a tmpfs ?
[21:59] <mediawork> TJ-,  it is part of sda1  "/"
[21:59] <mediawork> not tmpfs.
[22:00] <TJ-> mediawork: OK. To check the drive health "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda"
[22:00] <mediawork> TJ-,  this has happened before, and ubuntu did diskchecks on reboot, fixing it automatically
[22:00] <Bashing-om> nekonoko: see: -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics <- .
[22:00] <fibz_> http://www.howtoforge.com/checking-hard-disk-sanity-with-smartmontools-debian-ubuntu  mediawork
[22:01] <fibz_> http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/smartmontools/wiki/TocDoc#Tutorials
[22:02] <TJ-> mediawork: If /tmp/ is in the root file-system, and that is remounted read-only because of errors, then you should look in "/var/log/kern.log" for any sign of I/O errors
[22:03] <mediawork> TJ-,  thanks - ok smart says SMART Disabled. Use option -s with argument 'on' to enable it.
[22:03] <TJ-> mediawork: "sudo smartctl -s on /dev/sda" then repeat the "-a" test
[22:04] <mediawork> SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
[22:05] <TJ-> mediawork: That's helpful. So... has the remount read-only just happened, or was it some time ago? We need to pin down the time-period to help you find any related warnings/errors in the log files
[22:06] <mediawork> TJ-,  it just did... at the same time my firefox crashed.
[22:06] <mediawork> TJ-,    ill look at the kernel log now
[22:07] <TJ-> mediawork: Great! OK, can you start a terminal shell and then do "sudo tail -n 1000 /var/log/kern.log | pastebinit" and give us the URL of the pastebin it provides?
[22:08] <adac> guys what is the keyboard key "C" on my tv remote?
[22:08] <clue_h> 1
[22:09] <mediawork> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7170963/
[22:09] <mediawork> or this one
[22:09] <mediawork> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7170967/
[22:11] <mediawork> TJ-,  those times are strange.... 08:12 this is not my system time currently
[22:12] <TJ-> mediawork: Hmmm, if /var/ is on the root-filesystem too, then it can't be written to.
[22:12] <mediawork> TJ-,   but my computer has been running since this morning, maybe 0812 is when it hung up the root
[22:13] <mediawork> TJ-,    I should have put /var/ on its own partition.
[22:15] <TJ-> mediawork: Try "sudo mount -o remount,rw /"
[22:15] <TJ-> mediawork: That should at least give you a read-write FS if it isn't broken.
[22:15] <TJ-> mediawork: It would be best to reboot though, and let the file-system checker run
[22:15] <mediawork> TJ-,   but is it an ok idea.
[22:16] <mediawork> TJ-,  should I have ubuntu reboot and do diskchecks first?
[22:16] <TJ-> mediawork: Yes, that would be best
[22:16] <mediawork> right
[22:16] <KyouReeUs4nfo> What kind of errors should have to occur for mounting the filesystem as readonly filesystem? Referring to errors=remount-ro in fstab.
[22:17] <jdm> are the X.org AMD video wrappers faster than the propiertary AMD drivers?
[22:17] <mediawork> KyouReeUs4nfo,  right, I have that too...
[22:17] <mediawork> KyouReeUs4nfo,   I wonder what errors
[22:18] <TJ-> KyouReeUs4nfo: I/O errors, mainly
[22:18] <sudormrf> would anyone care to take a look at my script and help me figure out why it isn't working correctly?
[22:18] <TJ-> sudormrf: What have you broke now? :P
[22:18] <TJ-> sudormrf: go on :)
[22:18] <KyouReeUs4nfo> TJ-: I wouldn't know until it happens to me I guess.
[22:18] <sudormrf> TJ-, hehe.  let me pastebin it
[22:19] <mediawork> KyouReeUs4nfo,   which are hardware problems?  or kernel bugs?
[22:19] <sudormrf> doh.  I think I know why
[22:19] <sudormrf> hang on
[22:19]  * TJ- waves a magic wand over sudormrf's scripts and they start working :)
[22:20] <Guest67635> I think I can grab an overnight flight to Italy, drink a nice gallong of expresso coffee, grab a flight back to NA and STILL this gparted partition resizing will not be done.
[22:20] <sudormrf> TJ-, you are a magic man.  or woman.  I don't know which gender you are, but if my reasoning is right, this should be good :D
[22:20] <mediawork> TJ-,  btw,  could you also look at my smartctl output just to be sure,...   http://paste.ubuntu.com/7171015/
[22:20] <mediawork> TJ-,   some RAW values are on Pre-fail...
[22:21] <mediawork> TJ-,   and kinda high compared to the thresholds...
[22:21] <sudormrf> ok, let me run again
[22:21] <mediawork> TJ-,  or maybe im not reading that table correctly
[22:22] <midnightmagic> Hi! I am trying to manually link gtk+-1.2 into a test program. I am on Ubuntu 12.04. I have ia32-libs installed. When I run: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -D_REENTRANT   test.c -L/usr/lib -lgtk -lglib -lX11 -lm -lgdk -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lm -lglib; I get the following output (among others): /usr/lib/libgdk.so: undefined reference to `XShmDetach'. But! objdump -tT
[22:22] <sudormrf> TJ-, also, the reason I keep breaking stuff is so I can learn your magic powers :P
[22:22] <midnightmagic> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXext.so.6.4.0 |grep -i ShmDetach: 00000000000088c0 g    DF .text  00000000000000bb  Base        XShmDetach
[22:22] <midnightmagic> What's the magic incantation to get it to link against Xext properly?
[22:22] <TJ-> mediawork: The one to watch is "Reallocated_Sector_Ct" and that's 0 so I'd say for 10000 power-on hours that is great!
[22:22] <TJ-> sudormrf: :D
[22:22] <harushimo> can anyone suggest an good ide for python? I'm using ninja but it keeps crashing on me
[22:23] <TJ-> mediawork: unfortunately, the way the drive's SMART values are stored in raw form, and their adjusted values, work, one doesn't correlate easily to the other! Blame a committee that designed them for that
[22:23] <mediawork> TJ-,  right... however, maybe there is something wrong with the reallocation code on my disk... so it doesnt reallocate, and using rubbish faulty sectors anyway
[22:23] <harushimo> I'm using ubuntu
[22:23] <TJ-> mediawork: If you find errrors being spat out by the kernel saying I/O error, failed to reallocate sector... then possibly.
[22:23] <osolus_> on a fresh installation of kubuntu, I upgraded thinking the wifi would work better and now I can't log in and it's supposed to login automaticallly..
[22:24] <OerHeks> !ide
[22:24] <lotuspsychje> harushimo: software centre got IDE section, maybe there?
[22:24] <harushimo> I want a good IDE for python in ubuntu. I'm currently using ninja but it keeps crashing on me
[22:24] <mediawork> TJ-,  maybe I can read the serial number of my disk and check if it has known problems somewhere?
[22:24] <harushimo> does it
[22:24] <harushimo> I didn't know that
[22:24] <midnightmagic> harushimo: Komodo maybe?
[22:24] <TJ-> mediawork: reboot, let it do the fsck.
[22:24] <artkayek> Guest67635 : Hi, this has been a few phonecalls :)
[22:24] <harushimo> I can stick with vim
[22:24] <mediawork> TJ-,  i thought sector reallocation by the disk was virtual... the kernel wouldnt even notice
[22:24] <artkayek> Guest67635 : Resizing disks can be tedious indeed
[22:25] <harushimo> I need to get more familiar integrated development environment
[22:25] <mediawork> TJ-,  if all is good
[22:25] <sudormrf> TJ-, ok, my idea didn't work.
[22:25] <sudormrf> let me paste the script
[22:25] <TJ-> mediawork: If you have space on that device for another file-system, or could temporarily plug in a spare USB flash device, you could create a separate /var/ file-system so you can capture the logs even when rootfs goes read-only
[22:25] <lotuspsychje> harushimo: check software centre for the dev section
[22:25] <harushimo> i am. thank you
[22:25] <TJ-> mediawork: It can go both ways, but if the kernel spots a problem it can ask the drive to reallocate.
[22:25] <artkayek> Guest67635 : I usually go out for a drink when I'm resizing a laptop. When its a SDD its not the same thing off course
[22:26] <artkayek> SS*
[22:26] <artkayek> SSD*
[22:26] <mediawork> TJ-,   ok... mind you... I should mention this...   a couple of months ago, similar thing happened... after two attempts to fix the filesystem... I lost recently edited data on my /home
[22:26] <mediawork> TJ-,  it was completely gone.
[22:26] <TJ-> mediawork: Is /home/ in the same file-system as rootfs ?
[22:26] <mediawork> TJ-,  and only folders I had been working on for a couple of days
[22:27] <jjavaholic> numlock LED light keeps turning off and high CPU usage
[22:27] <mediawork> TJ-,  no.
[22:27] <TJ-> mediawork: That sounds like the FS lost the journal of pending commits
[22:27] <mediawork> TJ-,   it is same disk separate partition
[22:27] <mediawork> TJ-,  ext4!
[22:27] <sudormrf> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7171057/  the script works fine if I execute it.  The tmp file is created if I execute it or not.  the temp file has the correct information in it, however when I receive the email it is missing the "body".  Thoughts?
[22:27] <TJ-> mediawork: But /home/ is on the same physical disk... OK... well it could be a disk error, it could be cable error, a controller error, or a memory module sticky-bit error
[22:28] <TJ-> mediawork: You won't know until you can capture the kernel log showing what is happening to force the rootfs to be remounted
[22:28] <mediawork> TJ-,  ok thanks!
[22:28] <mediawork> TJ-,   so, what the kernel did in my case... it remounted... then tried to log why...
[22:28] <mediawork> TJ-,  instead of log what happened, then remount
[22:28] <sudormrf> TJ-, I thought it was a permissions thing on the tmp folder, but that turned out to be wrong
[22:29] <TJ-> mediawork: It can't log if the file-system the log is on has problems :)
[22:29] <TJ-> mediawork: hence why I recommend providing a separate file-system on another device as a temporary measure until it happens again
[22:30] <mediawork> TJ-,  yeah,.... hear my system admins at work tell me to do that before :S
[22:30] <mediawork> TJ-,  now I will
[22:30] <TJ-> sudormrf: how about doing what I do... having the script echo the commands it is about to run to a log-file so you can also check how the env vars were expanded?
[22:30] <OerHeks> sudormrf, maybe a typo in line #5 echo "Transmission finished downloading "\$TR_TORRENT_NAME\" on $TR_TIME_LOCALTIME" >>$TMPFILE
[22:30] <sudormrf> TJ-, I just tweaked the script to write to a txt file instead.  just in case ssmtp was freaking out on the tmp file.  testing it again.
[22:30] <mediawork> TJ-,  ok ,, going to reboot ... thanks for the pointers and looking at my logs..
[22:31] <sudormrf> OerHeks, if it is a typo wouldn't the tmpfile that it creates not have any valuable data?
[22:31] <sudormrf> TJ-, will try that in a sec.
[22:32] <TJ-> sudormrf: I think I see your problem.
[22:32] <sudormrf> OerHeks, what I mean is, in the TMPFILE it generates you see all the correct information.  when I get the email the subject line is filled in.  it's just the body that is blank
[22:32] <sudormrf> TJ-, oh?
[22:32] <TJ-> sudormrf: Email body must be separated from the HEADERS by at least ONE empty line
[22:33] <sudormrf> TJ-, hmm. how do I insert a break?
[22:33] <TJ-> sudormrf: "echo" between lines 4 and 5
[22:33] <sudormrf> TJ-, ok.  let me give that a go.
[22:33] <TJ-> sudormrf: "echo >> $TMPFILE" to be precise
[22:33] <sudormrf> TJ-, k.  thanks.  let me try it.
[22:34] <TJ-> sudormrf: I bet if you look at the raw source of the emails you've received, you'll see the line beginning "Tranmission..." in the headers
[22:34] <sudormrf> TJ-, I would be you are right :)
[22:37] <ghostnik11> hi i need help getting my bluetooth to work
[22:37] <ghostnik11> i am running ubuntu 13.04 and my computer is a lenovo ideapad s400
[22:37] <adac> I added a move to the path were all movies reside, however it is not shown in the menu point movies. How can I add it there? Do I have to make another scan and where is this done?
[22:38] <sudormrf> TJ-, that did the trick :D
[22:38] <TJ-> sudormrf: :)
[22:38] <sudormrf> TJ-, magic wand strikes again!
[22:41] <ghostnik11> please help i don't have much internet time left
[22:41] <sudormrf> TJ-, almost done with this project.  I think I have learned more about linux in the last year than I have in the last 7 lol
[22:41] <ghostnik11> how can i get my internal bluetooth to work in ubuntu 13.04, my computer is lenovo s400
[22:42] <TJ-> sudormrf: Yeah, you can never learn it all either... there's always more
[22:42] <Beldar> ghostnik11, 13.04 is end of life.
[22:42] <KyouReeUs4nfo> TJ- : how to go about adding filesystem on another device? like install ubuntu on it from scratch?
[22:42] <sudormrf> TJ-, and that is awesome :).  I love it.  The more I learn about it the more I want to do with it.  Which in turn leads me to breaking more things, fixing them and learning more.  LOL
[22:42] <ghostnik11> Beldar, i am in school in a different country and won't be able to download the new ubuntu, i have to work with what i have for now
[22:43] <TJ-> ghost64: First, identify how the BT module is presented - USB, PCI, or other, then ensure it's rfkill is not active, and the adapter should show up with "hcitool dev"
[22:43] <ghostnik11> Beldar, is there anyway i can get it to work, i just downloaded the linux-firmwar nofree
[22:43] <TJ-> sudormrf: Don't break mine :p
[22:43] <sudormrf> TJ-, haha.  I can't promise anything :P
[22:44] <Beldar> ghostnik11, No idea on the bluetooth, never use it.
[22:44] <ghostnik11> TJ-, it gives me a blank when i run hcitool
[22:45] <ghostnik11> TJ-, says its not soft or hard blocked
[22:45] <ghostnik11> thats what the rkill command said
[22:45] <TJ-> ghostnik11: OK... are you sure the laptop does have a BT device installed? I've seen many times people trying to do this and then finding out that there is no BT device installed, despite what the laptop specifications say
[22:45] <TJ-> ghostnik11: OK, so rfkill can see it?
[22:45] <ghostnik11> TJ-, it had one when i had windows 8
[22:45] <TJ-> ghostnik11: does rfkill show it as "hci0" ?
[22:46] <ghostnik11> 0: ideapad_wlan: Wireless LAN
[22:46] <ghostnik11> 	Soft blocked: no
[22:46] <ghostnik11> 	Hard blocked: no
[22:46] <ghostnik11> 1: ideapad_bluetooth: Bluetooth
[22:46] <ghostnik11> 	Soft blocked: no
[22:46] <ghostnik11> 	Hard blocked: no
[22:46] <unopaste`> ghostnik11 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[22:46] <ghostnik11> 2: phy0: Wireless LAN
[22:46] <ghostnik11> 	Soft blocked: no
[22:46] <ghostnik11> 	Hard blocked: no
[22:46] <unopaste`> ghostnik11 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[22:46] <PreSSion> hello guys! here a silly question, I have got docx text with hyperlinks, but these don't work on ubuntu for the absolute path rute on windows is different,... is there some way to do a path for hyperlink compatible for any OS?
[22:47] <adriano> hi
[22:47] <TJ-> ghostnik11: This might help you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/239827/how-do-i-enable-bluetooth-on-my-lenovo-ideapad-z580
[22:51] <PreSSion> hello guys! here a silly question, I have got docx text with hyperlinks, but these don't work on ubuntu for the absolute path rute on windows is different,... is there some way to do a path for hyperlink compatible for any OS?
[22:53] <awesomess3> PreSSion, the only way I can think of is through relative paths, for example, myfile.html, ../a_dir/whatever.html, a_dir/b_dir/whatever.html
[22:53] <PreSSion> yes, i know and i tried, but LO don't let me do it
[22:53] <PreSSion> thanks anyway!
[22:54] <PreSSion> and that wouldn't help, cuz the relative path in windows is diferent :(
[22:54] <PreSSion> thanks
[22:56] <TJ-> PreSSion: Will this help?  http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/3888/is-it-possible-to-link-images-relatively-to-document/
[22:57] <PreSSion> i going to see... thanks!
[22:59] <Sashmo_> anyone in here have luck playing with USB 3g/LTE modems and linux?  I'm having a hard time getting the device to assign a IP from the ISP via the modem
[23:00] <TJ-> Sashmo_: what device is it? how is it presenting (GSM serial, or CDC Ether) ?
[23:00] <Sashmo_> its a sierra wireless usb
[23:01] <Sashmo_> not sure if its cdc or gsm serial
[23:02] <TJ-> Sashmo_: Does Network manager list it as a WWAN or Wired interface maybe?
[23:02] <Sashmo_> drviers are intsalled, and I can access the network manager to set it up, and I can even make a connection to it via the GUI, but no connection out, looks like there is no IP address being assigned to the interface
[23:02] <Sashmo_> it shows as mobile broadband
[23:03] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Sashmo_: is the bill paid? just curious.
[23:03] <TJ-> Sashmo_: OK, that'll be a serial device most likely. You've configured the PC to get an IP via DHCP? It is likely the APN settings are causing a problem. Who is the mobile service provider?
[23:03] <Sashmo_> apn is correct.... double checked it
[23:04] <Sashmo_> and when I add the dhcp option in /etc/network/interfaces, I loose all my network settings and loose the device in the network manager
[23:04] <sudormrf> TJ-, last question for now.  do you know if there is a way to run multiple scripts after completion in transmission?  I have it running one, but suppose I wanted it to run two or three?.  I know I could combine the three into one, but having the separate makes my OCD feel better.
[23:05] <ikonia> why are you messing with the interfaces file if you are using network manager ?
[23:05] <TJ-> Sashmo_: That's to be expected - NM won't manage an interface you manually configure
[23:05] <TJ-> sudormrf: Have one that calls the others?
[23:05] <sudormrf> TJ-, oh.  clever.  ok.  that will work :D
[23:06] <TJ-> sudormrf: If you look in the "/etc/" directory, you'll see many sub-dirs ending in ".d/" ... we use those as stores for lots of scripts/configs we want to run based on the same trigger, e.g. "/etc/udev/rules.d/"
[23:07] <jon1> Does anyone know how to disable workspace in ubuntu?
[23:07] <Doxin> uwsgi just shows "Python application not found" in browser, no error logged at all. what's the next step in debugging?
[23:07] <jon1> 12.04
[23:07] <sudormrf> TJ-, these scripts are in a different directory, but thank you for the tip.  I will look in there for examples :D.
[23:07] <KyouReeUs4nfo> jon1: you may need to configure openbox for that
[23:08] <ggh> I have a pc running and have been able to ssh into it. I installed fail2ban and denyhosts and then wasn't able to ssh anymore so I uninstalled both and restarted the pc but I still can't ssh in
[23:09] <sudormrf> Time to test it again.  I really wish I could find a smaller linux ISO torrent lol.  grabbing the arch ISO.  527mb.  was hoping I could find a torrent file for puppy linux.  I couldn't.  tried TCL too.  boo :).
[23:09] <jon1> dam, is there a command to bring all the windows to the current workspace?
[23:09] <TJ-> sudormrf: You could use the same scheme, and then in your control script do something like "for script in /path/to/my/scripts.d/; do source $script; done"
[23:09] <PreSSion> mmm, althought the option is activate, this still failling
[23:10] <PreSSion> I have got docx text with hyperlinks, but these don't work on ubuntu for the absolute path rute on windows is different,... is there some way to do a path for hyperlink compatible for any OS? I activate the relative option box, but this still fail
[23:11] <sudormrf> TJ-, oooh. fancy.  right now I just added "sh ./scriptname.sh" since it is executing from the same folder.
[23:13] <KyouReeUs4nfo> jon1:not sure but if you press ALT+F2, you can see what commands are available to you.
[23:15] <sudormrf> TJ-, well that didn't work.  just changed it to exec "/path/to/script.sh" see if that works.
[23:15] <weblordpepe> holy crap
[23:16] <weblordpepe> 1562 nicks
[23:16] <jpds> weblordpepe: Peanuts.
[23:16] <weblordpepe> how is the ubuntu community these days?
[23:17] <jpds> weblordpepe: How is the weather outside?
[23:17] <weblordpepe> i've been off-planet for quite a while now.
[23:17] <jpds> weblordpepe: That's basically what you're asking. ;-)
[23:17] <weblordpepe> good good. im on planet debian-based-mint now.
[23:17] <sudormrf> that worked
[23:17] <sudormrf> :D
[23:18]  * weblordpepe hands out cracked copies of ubuntu warez on cdrom
[23:19] <bazhang> !ot | weblordpepe
[23:19] <sudormrf> oh my.  I am going to join the OT channel haha
[23:21] <daftykins> it's no saner there
[23:21] <daftykins> believe me
[23:22] <sudormrf> daftykins, AHAHHA seriously? I was hoping for complete insanity :D
[23:23] <daftykins> oh then DEFINITELY go there
[23:23] <sudormrf> daftykins, :D
[23:24] <treats> Hi all.  Attempting to create 'alternate keyboard profiles' that I can switch in an out of rapidly.  It's for an advanced keyboard settings while playing browser games
[23:24] <treats> any pointers in the right direction?
[23:26] <KyouReeUs4nfo> treats: keyboard-switching-hotkey may be your answer
[23:27] <KyouReeUs4nfo> treats: http://www.wikihow.com/Change-Keyboard-Layout-in-Ubuntu (check out step 5)
[23:27] <Guest92040> Всем привет!
[23:27] <PreSSion> excume, is it posible put a script in LO, and when i click on it, the script open a file (sry for my "engrish")
[23:27] <Beldar> !ru | Guest92040
[23:33] <KyouReeUs4nfo> PreSSion: L0?
[23:33] <PreSSion> libreoffcie
[23:34] <KyouReeUs4nfo> PreSSion: https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Scripting
[23:35] <PreSSion> thanks man! i will see... the scripting will work in any OS?
[23:35] <CarlFK> # dconf write /org/gnome/desktop/session/idle-delay uint32=0  ...   error.. VALUE       The value to write (in GVariant format)
[23:35] <PreSSion> i guess no
[23:35] <PreSSion> xd
[23:35] <CarlFK> anyone know what GVariant format is?
[23:36] <midnightmagic> Hey fwiw, my linking solution turned out to be (after compiling with -c): gcc -g -o out test.o -lgtk -lgdk -lglib -lm  -Wl,--no-as-needed,-lXext -lX11 -lXi
[23:39] <WJB> I have an TBS®2910 Matrix ARM mini PC Quad Core Processor using linaro Ubuntu 11.10, has anyone got flash player for youtube and such working on it?
[23:40] <rww> Adobe Flash was only released on Linux for x86, if I recall correctly.
[23:43] <ZeuZ> Question: If I use Ubuntu on a macbook pro 5.2, without using Bootcamp, can I use any of the graphic cards?
[23:43] <ZeuZ> or do I have to go through a reboot cycle?
[23:46] <dhaval2712> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76328 So I have this terrible issue and the other channels seem sort of dead...
[23:49] <jasabella> what's the difference between telling a server to listen to your server's hostname and your server's ip address?
[23:50] <KyouReeUs4nfo> PreSSion: how you use the script is up to you. LibreOffice supports specific set of scripting-languages only from what I gather.
[23:51] <jasabella> i notice it says servername.local instead
[23:51] <josvuk> how to print out which release I am using from the cli? uname doesn't prints me the release name
[23:51] <dhaval2712> So anyway the bug I posted... anybody have ANY idea?
[23:52] <beandog> josvuk: lsb_release -a
[23:52] <Bashing-om> jo -> lsb_realease -a <- is one way,
[23:53] <beandog> or cat /etc/lsb-release
[23:55] <KyouReeUs4nfo> josvuk: cat /etc/issue is another way