| ochosi | ali1234: i guess that's good news, that xfdesktop on its own doesn't leak | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| pleia2 | G+ed | 00:03 |
| ali1234 | ochosi: standalone'd... it leaks like crazy | 00:11 |
| ali1234 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7165783/ - this leaks 1 gig per minute | 00:16 |
| ochosi | ali1234: any clue yet whether accountsservice itself is to blame yet? | 00:25 |
| ali1234 | not sure | 00:26 |
| ali1234 | looks like it could be a gio bug | 00:26 |
| ali1234 | i'm trying to get the minimal code to cause the leak | 00:27 |
| ali1234 | hmm | 00:29 |
| ali1234 | wwaaaaait a minute... | 00:31 |
| ali1234 | okay this is a really obvious bug | 00:31 |
| ali1234 | it never unrefs the "user" object | 00:31 |
| ali1234 | that's it | 00:31 |
| ochosi | oh | 00:31 |
| ochosi | cool | 00:31 |
| ali1234 | yep, that's it | 00:32 |
| ali1234 | it still leaks a little bit | 00:32 |
| ali1234 | but it's like 10 mb per minute now | 00:33 |
| ochosi | sounds like a 100 times better (literally) | 00:33 |
| knome | little bit is 10MB per minute? huhu | 00:34 |
| ali1234 | well it's calling the function thousands of times per second | 00:34 |
| ali1234 | it's probably leaking like 2 bytes per background change | 00:35 |
| knome | :P | 00:35 |
| ochosi | ali1234: so we gotta update the accountsservice patch then accordingly... | 00:36 |
| ochosi | and ideally Noskcaj can update his sponsoring request with the xfdesktop patches from git | 00:36 |
| ochosi | and include the fixed patch | 00:36 |
| ali1234 | yeah | 00:37 |
| ochosi | so it should be a one-line fix, right? | 00:37 |
| ali1234 | two lines | 00:37 |
| knome | DAMN | 00:38 |
| ochosi | ok, that's still quite concise | 00:38 |
| bluesabre0 | I agree with knome. two lines, that's horrible. | 00:38 |
| bluesabre0 | ;) | 00:38 |
| knome | any way you could squeeze it to one line? | 00:38 |
| ali1234 | yes but it would break coding standards | 00:38 |
| knome | seriously, you're doing a massacre on our code. | 00:38 |
| knome | it's unacceptable | 00:39 |
| ali1234 | if(user) g_object_unref(user); | 00:39 |
| knome | ...i'm just kidding | 00:39 |
| ali1234 | me too | 00:39 |
| knome | goodie | 00:39 |
| ali1234 | do you have to g_error_free a GError even if there was no error? | 00:42 |
| ali1234 | no, apparently not | 00:43 |
| ali1234 | okay so whatever leak remains is a gio bug | 00:43 |
| ochosi | well, as long as the major leak is fixed, i think we can live with it for 14.04 | 00:44 |
| knome | ochosi, ping here actually | 00:51 |
| ochosi | aha aha | 00:51 |
| knome | bug 1298711 | 00:52 |
| ubottu | bug 1298711 in xubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] New Xubuntu wallpaper" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1298711 | 00:52 |
| ochosi | that looks a bit... empty? :) | 00:53 |
| knome | well... yes | 00:53 |
| knome | can we go through the changes we need | 00:53 |
| knome | and i'll get the approval stamp for that in a minute | 00:53 |
| knome | i've been basically given the approval, as long as we don't use a 20x20px tiled wallpaper of naked breasts [sic] | 00:54 |
| ochosi | two binary files need to be uploaded, one for greeter, one for desktop | 00:54 |
| ochosi | awwwwh | 00:54 |
| ochosi | and we need to update the symlink | 00:54 |
| ochosi | as long as i get all the files, i can push those changes to trunk and do a new release of xubuntu-artwork | 00:54 |
| ochosi | but we'll need a sponsor | 00:54 |
| knome | package names? | 00:54 |
| knome | wasn't micahg going to be online and uploading today at 1utc | 00:55 |
| knome | that is, in 5 minutes | 00:55 |
| knome | what's the greeter package/branch | 00:55 |
| ochosi | it's all in xubuntu-artwork | 00:55 |
| ochosi | i'm considering to sneak in a few icon updates too | 00:55 |
| ochosi | would you mind that? | 00:55 |
| ochosi | it's no new icons, just additional sizes | 00:55 |
| knome | i would... unless you describe them in the bug | 00:55 |
| knome | :P | 00:55 |
| ochosi | (and probably not even many) | 00:55 |
| knome | greeter package name? | 00:56 |
| knome | or is that in xubuntu-artwork as well? | 00:56 |
| knome | you are confusing me by being too exact. | 00:57 |
| ochosi | yes | 00:57 |
| ochosi | it's all there | 00:57 |
| ochosi | both the greeter and plymouth point to the same wallpaper path | 00:58 |
| knome | mhm | 00:58 |
| ochosi | which is shipped in xubuntu-artwork | 00:58 |
| ochosi | and xfdesktop points to another wallpaper-path, which is also in xubuntu-artwork | 00:58 |
| knome | hmm, additional icon sizes are bugfixes | 00:58 |
| knome | so i guess you should take it to micahg | 00:58 |
| ochosi | if i'm still around when he gets here... | 00:58 |
| knome | see bug 1298711 again | 00:59 |
| ubottu | bug 1298711 in xubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] New Xubuntu wallpaper" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1298711 | 00:59 |
| knome | and tell me if it's okay for release team approval | 00:59 |
| ochosi | did you just copy-paste what i said in here? :) | 00:59 |
| knome | almost! | 00:59 |
| ochosi | well we should actually push the wallpaper first | 00:59 |
| knome | okay | 00:59 |
| ochosi | then it'll be ready for ubuntu-release | 01:00 |
| knome | are we fine with what we have now? | 01:00 |
| knome | well, | 01:00 |
| knome | they said they don't mind if it's not in the branch... | 01:00 |
| knome | but did you want to look at it again in the library? | 01:00 |
| knome | or should we just push? | 01:00 |
| ochosi | i guess pretty much. if you wanna push it tonight then i don't have any further thoughts on the wallpaper | 01:00 |
| knome | ok. | 01:01 |
| knome | 1920x1200 or bigger? | 01:01 |
| ochosi | look at the spec for our wallpaper contest for the correct resolution ;) | 01:02 |
| ochosi | btw, we could fix this bug along the way: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-look/+bug/1292550 | 01:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1292550 in ubuntustudio-look (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu Studio wallpapers are only selectable in XFCE" [Undecided,New] | 01:02 |
| ochosi | cause it also affects us (if we even care that much) | 01:02 |
| knome | hmm | 01:02 |
| knome | we can do it with another push when we fix other issues with the wallpapers | 01:03 |
| ochosi | not sure those issues are in xubuntu-artwork | 01:03 |
| knome | ok, so http://temp.knome.fi/.w/xubuntu-trusty.png | 01:05 |
| knome | OMG IT'S PUBLIC! | 01:05 |
| knome | :) | 01:05 |
| knome | ochosi, want to push it? | 01:05 |
| ochosi | will do in a minute | 01:06 |
| ochosi | where's the second version? | 01:06 |
| knome | thanks | 01:06 |
| knome | oh, oops | 01:07 |
| knome | which name? | 01:07 |
| ochosi | wallpaper.png :) | 01:07 |
| bluesabre0 | knome: fancy, I approve very much | 01:07 |
| knome | coming! | 01:07 |
| knome | bluesabre0, good... | 01:07 |
| ochosi | bluesabre0: it came with much headache ;) | 01:07 |
| knome | we've used probably at least 80 hours each on it with simon | 01:07 |
| knome | err, | 01:07 |
| knome | 8 hours | 01:07 |
| knome | wallpaper.png is in the same directory | 01:08 |
| bluesabre0 | (go with 80, your dedication will be admired) | 01:08 |
| knome | heh | 01:08 |
| knome | well i've probably used more than 8... | 01:08 |
| knome | we've both worked at least 3 hours on today alone | 01:08 |
| ochosi | knome: btw, have you tested the wallpaper.png one in context? | 01:08 |
| ochosi | i.e. with the greeter | 01:08 |
| knome | no | 01:09 |
| knome | i can't see why it would fail | 01:09 |
| knome | i mean, yeah, windows can overlap the lines, but... so? :) | 01:09 |
| ochosi | yeah, it most likely wont look totally awful :) | 01:09 |
| knome | if it does, let's do a bugfix release! | 01:09 |
| bluesabre0 | :D | 01:09 |
| knome | i'm so sick of this | 01:10 |
| knome | pleia2, PING! | 01:10 |
| knome | pleia2, pick your wallpaper for a screenshot, or wait for the next daily | 01:11 |
| ochosi | pusing... | 01:11 |
| ochosi | pushing... | 01:11 |
| knome | haha | 01:11 |
| knome | or should i say | 01:11 |
| knome | aa | 01:11 |
| ochosi | :) | 01:12 |
| knome | no changelog update? | 01:12 |
| ochosi | yeah, when i do the release | 01:12 |
| ochosi | i also need to bump the version number | 01:13 |
| knome | oki | 01:13 |
| ochosi | better to do two separate commits | 01:13 |
| knome | ok, getting a release team ACK | 01:13 |
| ochosi | changelog pushed | 01:16 |
| ochosi | apart from xubuntu-t-bugs we're looking pretty solid now | 01:16 |
| knome | aaaand we have the UIFe | 01:17 |
| bluesabre0 | freaking lightning | 01:17 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre0: The weather event or thunderbird extension? :P | 01:18 |
| bluesabre0 | knome's approval speed | 01:18 |
| knome | haha | 01:18 |
| knome | well i was asking in advance | 01:19 |
| knome | and since they were like "yeah whatever, you barely even need to UIFe..." | 01:19 |
| knome | bluesabre0, http://temp.knome.fi/.w/trusty-yellow.png | 01:19 |
| knome | bluesabre0, for your pleasure | 01:19 |
| knome | bluesabre0, variant provided by simon | 01:19 |
| ochosi | :) | 01:20 |
| ochosi | actually i'd do the gradient a bit different now or add a little vignetting | 01:20 |
| bluesabre0 | interesting | 01:20 |
| ochosi | but i still like the palette | 01:20 |
| knome | in addition to that, i have like 10 blue variants... | 01:20 |
| bluesabre0 | you can make this one transparent again | 01:20 |
| knome | now that we have the official one out of the door, we can do whatever color variations | 01:22 |
| bluesabre0 | I think Unit193 requested a teal/magenta variant | 01:23 |
| knome | hah | 01:23 |
| ochosi | do we want to add any other keyboard shortcuts apart from updating the existing one for whiskermenu? (ctrl+esc) | 01:23 |
| bluesabre0 | dunno | 01:24 |
| ochosi | e.g. ctrl+alt+l for locking? | 01:24 |
| bluesabre0 | I need to check which ones we have now | 01:24 |
| ochosi | me too :) | 01:24 |
| Unit193 | Wallpaper isn't my favorite, but better than the yellow one. :P | 01:24 |
| knome | Unit193, i can do a black one for you. | 01:25 |
| brainwash | black on black? | 01:25 |
| knome | do you prefer some color with it, or just shades of grey? | 01:25 |
| brainwash | 50 shades? | 01:26 |
| bluesabre0 | https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/xubuntu-default-settings/trunk/view/head:/etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts.xml | 01:26 |
| knome | har har | 01:26 |
| Unit193 | I don't normally do defaults, but blackish with red "trim" would be the most likely to be used by me. :P | 01:26 |
| knome | okay, let's see | 01:26 |
| Unit193 | But, yeah. Feel free to ignore me, looks good enough for default. | 01:26 |
| knome | well we discussed about doing a blog post on the variants | 01:26 |
| brainwash | how about a svg version and some script to change it dynamically? rainbow version anyone? | 01:27 |
| knome | >__< | 01:27 |
| bluesabre0 | ochosi: I think we're good with what we have | 01:27 |
| bluesabre0 | we even have killitwithfire | 01:28 |
| knome | you can do that with the svg once it's published. | 01:28 |
| brainwash | I would call it the "nyan mouse edition" | 01:28 |
| bluesabre0 | :D | 01:28 |
| ochosi | only once the xfdesktop leak is fixed :) | 01:28 |
| ochosi | otherwise the rainbow-version will eat your ram for breakfast | 01:28 |
| * bluesabre0 wants to do a nyan-xfce-mouse video for the 14.04 release | 01:28 | |
| ochosi | ali1234: can/will you update the patch or do you need help? | 01:29 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre0: Heh, nice. :P | 01:30 |
| bluesabre0 | knome: any plans for 14.04 promotional videos? | 01:30 |
| knome | bluesabre0, like? | 01:30 |
| bluesabre0 | dunno | 01:30 |
| knome | hah | 01:30 |
| bluesabre0 | I was thinking about trying to do a release highlights video | 01:30 |
| bluesabre0 | didn't want to duplicate work | 01:31 |
| bluesabre0 | :) | 01:31 |
| bluesabre0 | also, magically the dropbox indicator started working again today | 01:32 |
| bluesabre0 | huzzah! | 01:32 |
| ochosi | nice | 01:32 |
| ochosi | bluesabre0: if i update a changelog but don't know who will update/upload the package, whose name do i put down? | 01:33 |
| bluesabre0 | ochosi, just do "dch" and add your changes. whoever does the uplaod will update it with "dch -i" or something like that | 01:34 |
| bluesabre0 | Unit193 can be more specific here | 01:34 |
| Unit193 | I don't often use dch, actually. Until you actually want it uploaded, target UNRELEASED. | 01:35 |
| Unit193 | UNRELEASED basically means "Not ready for upload", once you're ready, you change to whatever you want to target (trusty, unstable, etc.) | 01:36 |
| knome | Unit193, http://temp.knome.fi/.w/black.png | 01:36 |
| knome | Unit193, just a quick draft. | 01:36 |
| knome | it has banding, but blah. | 01:36 |
| Unit193 | Wohoo, me likeie. | 01:36 |
| ochosi | bluesabre0: ok | 01:37 |
| knome | Unit193, can send the svg to you/ochosi, who can improve it further | 01:38 |
| knome | Unit193, with some lovely pink tones | 01:38 |
| Unit193 | Hah. :P | 01:38 |
| ochosi | Unit193: right, but i want it uploaded, so target UNRELEASED blows, no? well i guess micahg will change this anyway.. | 01:38 |
| ochosi | whenever micahg gets here, feel free to point him to this MR: https://code.launchpad.net/~ochosi/xubuntu-default-settings/appmenu_shortcut/+merge/213181 | 01:39 |
| knome | my take is: target UNRELEASED until you know somebody will upload it as it is now. | 01:39 |
| Unit193 | You broke my shortcut. :( | 01:39 |
| ochosi | Unit193: no, i only proposed to break it | 01:39 |
| Unit193 | :P | 01:39 |
| ochosi | i broke your default panel setup too | 01:39 |
| ochosi | so who cares | 01:39 |
| knome | haa haa! | 01:39 |
| ochosi | suddenly knome sounds like nelson | 01:40 |
| knome | lately a lot | 01:40 |
| pleia2 | knome: it's beer time! what do you want? :) | 01:41 |
| pleia2 | oh, wallpaper, yay! | 01:41 |
| pleia2 | I can wait for the next daily :) I said I'd do the screenshots over the weekend | 01:42 |
| knome | pleia2, i just had emeliess saison | 01:43 |
| knome | emelisse too | 01:43 |
| knome | i guess i should drink the westvleteren 12 on release day... | 01:43 |
| pleia2 | I was too lazy to go all the way to the proper beer store, so I ended up with just a couple local IPAs | 01:43 |
| knome | awwh | 01:43 |
| knome | http://www.brewdog.com/product/to-l-cloud-9-wit | 01:44 |
| knome | i have that on stock :) | 01:44 |
| ochosi | night everyone! | 01:49 |
| knome | nighty ochosi | 01:50 |
| bluesabre0 | micahg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shimmer-themes/+bug/1298741 | 02:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1298741 in shimmer-themes (Ubuntu) "[needs-packaging] Please upload bugfix shimmer-themes-1.7.3" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 02:33 |
| bluesabre0 | I was going to do the wallpaper package tonight too, but I am getting light-headed, need to get some rest | 02:33 |
| bluesabre0 | be back tomorrow | 02:34 |
| bluesabre0 | night all | 02:34 |
| knome | nighty bluesabre0 | 02:36 |
| bluesabre0 | ah, the wallpaper package has native packaging, so I didn't need to do that anyway :) | 02:37 |
| knome | i'm off to bed as well | 02:42 |
| knome | micahg, please see bug 1298711, everything is ready for an upload | 02:42 |
| ubottu | bug 1298711 in xubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] New Xubuntu wallpaper" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1298711 | 02:42 |
| Noskcaj | ali1234, can i have a link to the new patch for xfdesktop4? | 07:30 |
| brainwash | did the very recent python package upgrades mess up mugshot? | 07:53 |
| brainwash | it won't start anymore | 07:54 |
| Unit193 | Working here. | 07:55 |
| elfy | and here | 07:55 |
| Unit193 | ^C doesn't work. >_> | 07:55 |
| Unit193 | File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mugshot_lib/Window.py", line 84, in on_destroy | 07:56 |
| Unit193 | def on_destroy(self, widget, data=None): | 07:56 |
| Unit193 | KeyboardInterrupt | 07:56 |
| Unit193 | -9 it is. | 07:56 |
| Unit193 | brainwash: Use -v or -vv ? | 07:57 |
| brainwash | not needed, it's a seg fault | 07:57 |
| brainwash | strange | 07:57 |
| brainwash | let me check what upgrades I've downloaded and applied | 07:58 |
| brainwash | catfish also crashes :) | 08:02 |
| Unit193 | menulibre? | 08:03 |
| brainwash | nope, menulibre runs fine | 08:03 |
| brainwash | bluesabre0 help! | 08:05 |
| elfy | catfish works fine here - just updated/graded | 08:06 |
| brainwash | got proposed enabled? | 08:06 |
| brainwash | I do | 08:06 |
| elfy | nope | 08:06 |
| brainwash | maybe something wrong at my end.. but it did work like 3 hours ago | 08:07 |
| Unit193 | Proposed is the testing grounds and where things sit until everything is built as part of a transition, not supposed to be enabled. | 08:16 |
| brainwash | testing ground, exactly what I'm looking for | 08:20 |
| Unit193 | Erm.. | 08:23 |
| elfy | perhaps that's why stuff breaks all the time for you then :) | 08:25 |
| brainwash | it breaks for me all the time? nah | 08:25 |
| brainwash | not without a good reason :P | 08:26 |
| elfy | :) | 08:26 |
| elfy | I guess it doesn't help that you've got the whole repository installed too :p | 08:26 |
| Unit193 | Hah. | 08:27 |
| brainwash | this does not seem to cause any harm, other than mixed default settings for the gnome3 based sessions | 08:28 |
| ochosi | morning everyone | 08:57 |
| elfy | morning ochosi | 09:13 |
| ochosi | hey elfy | 09:13 |
| brainwash | hi ochosi | 09:19 |
| ochosi | morning brainwash | 09:19 |
| olbi | hi guys, in Whisker menu there are items, like Web Browser, File Manager and Mail Reader which aren't default translating into proper lang. I can do this by using Menu Editor, by I want it by default in my lang. | 09:50 |
| ochosi | those are the items from exo, i.e. xfce upstream | 09:50 |
| ochosi | they're not related to whiskermenu | 09:50 |
| olbi | so translating them in transifex? | 09:55 |
| ochosi | yup | 09:56 |
| ochosi | and then wait for xfce to do a release of that with your translations, and for xubuntu to pick up the release and ship it | 09:56 |
| olbi | that's my fault not to tell you that in time, but XChat doesn't have a new version from long time, we should change it to Smuxi :) | 09:57 |
| * ochosi shrugs | 09:57 | |
| ochosi | not going to happen for T, best to write a spec for it for T+1 | 09:57 |
| ochosi | feel free to go ahead and do it | 09:57 |
| ochosi | just saying cause ppl seem to think stuff is going to happen if they just come here and state a recommendation/idea | 09:59 |
| olbi | shit, no one approved changes in translation in transifex for exo for my lang :/ | 09:59 |
| bluesabre0 | olbi: smuxi uses mono, so probably not going to happen | 10:00 |
| ochosi | oh, hah, there you go :) | 10:00 |
| bluesabre0 | I wish it didn't, because it is certainly nicer than xchat | 10:00 |
| ochosi | doesn't elementary have a nice irc app? | 10:01 |
| ochosi | (never used/tested it though) | 10:01 |
| bluesabre0 | probably | 10:01 |
| bluesabre0 | the new gnome one is looking good too | 10:01 |
| bluesabre0 | but its attached to g-o-a, and has a headerbar | 10:01 |
| ochosi | :/ | 10:02 |
| ochosi | well the headerbar itself is not the problem, as soon as we get ali1234's headerbar fixes for xfwm4 | 10:02 |
| ochosi | it's more the gnome-depends that make this a headache | 10:02 |
| bluesabre0 | yup | 10:02 |
| bluesabre0 | I hope the elementary apps start rolling into the main archive | 10:02 |
| ochosi | indeed | 10:02 |
| bluesabre0 | there are quite a few that would be good to considwer | 10:03 |
| ochosi | mhm | 10:03 |
| elfy | does the new gnome one have more than a connect and disconnect button .... | 10:04 |
| ochosi | huhu | 10:04 |
| elfy | couldn't help it :p | 10:04 |
| brainwash | hexchat is available | 10:12 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Headerbars are still very crappy, I'd never support one. Hexchat is the best bet. | 10:12 |
| Unit193 | (If there were good alternatives, and for IRC there is.) | 10:13 |
| olbi | ochosi: could You aprrove polish translation for LightLocker? | 10:28 |
| olbi | in transifex? | 10:28 |
| hobgoblin | this Cable irc client is a bit basic ... | 10:30 |
| ochosi | right | 10:30 |
| ochosi | olbi: i think i can, lemme quickly check | 10:31 |
| olbi | ok | 10:33 |
| Unit193 | hobgoblin: Was? | 10:35 |
| ochosi | olbi: seems 100% translated on transifex, where would i have to approve? | 10:35 |
| elfy | was what? | 10:35 |
| olbi | ochosi: I have information: uncommitted | 10:37 |
| ochosi | olbi: it's possible that it hasn't been merged back to github | 10:38 |
| olbi | ochosi: oh, that's why | 10:38 |
| olbi | ochosi: but it's strange cause this translation has about 2 weeks and should be done | 10:38 |
| olbi | today updates for xub 14.04 doesn't has this | 10:39 |
| ochosi | that is no surprise | 10:41 |
| ochosi | if it was pulled to github, it got released with 1.4.0 | 10:41 |
| ochosi | and that hasn't been uploaded to xubuntu 14.04 yet | 10:41 |
| bluesabre0 | if there are no updates, we can provide an ubuntu translations patch prior to the 14.04 release | 10:43 |
| ochosi | there are 4 new strings | 10:43 |
| ochosi | so hmpf | 10:43 |
| ochosi | i'd just wait for 1.4.0 to land | 10:43 |
| ochosi | the FFe has been granted already, so it's mostly a matter of time | 10:43 |
| bluesabre0 | oh right | 10:44 |
| bluesabre0 | wasn't quite reading everything | 10:44 |
| bluesabre0 | but that does apply to other apps :) | 10:44 |
| brainwash | bluesabre0: any idea why mugshot, catfish and update-manager segfault almost immediately and menulibre does not? | 10:45 |
| brainwash | how is menulibre different? | 10:45 |
| brainwash | maybe I should just revert all recent trusty/proposed upgrades :/ | 10:46 |
| ochosi | none of that segfaults for me | 10:47 |
| brainwash | it does for me since today | 10:48 |
| * ochosi decides not to run upgrades today | 10:48 | |
| brainwash | but still, why is menulibre not affected.. that's strange | 10:48 |
| elfy | ochosi: they all work here - updated/upgraded - but I've not got proposed turned on | 10:49 |
| elfy | ochosi: I need to start pushing upgrade testing - but not sure at the moment if there are things not there yet? knome seemed to intimate that we might not have everything still | 10:50 |
| ochosi | elfy: yes, light-locker 1.4.0 is awaiting upload (FFe already granted) | 10:50 |
| elfy | ok | 10:51 |
| knome | ochosi, i was more concerned regarding upgrades, and for example, the indicators situation | 10:51 |
| ochosi | indicators should be fine | 10:51 |
| knome | ochosi, eg. if we clean up as much stuff as we can | 10:51 |
| ochosi | "clean up"? ah you mean remove gtk2 indicators? | 10:51 |
| knome | yeah, stuff like that | 10:51 |
| ochosi | no, none of that is taking place. even xscreensaver remains installed | 10:51 |
| knome | okay | 10:51 |
| knome | is there a bug for that? | 10:52 |
| ochosi | it's a bit annoying, because that means ppl have two settings panels for screensaver -> confusing | 10:52 |
| knome | yes | 10:52 |
| ochosi | the gtk2 indicators aren't that much of a concern | 10:52 |
| knome | okat | 10:52 |
| knome | *okay | 10:52 |
| elfy | ochosi: but light-locker is used in preference after upgrade regardless of having xscreensaver installed? | 10:52 |
| ochosi | would be good to get rid of them, but as i don't know how anyway... | 10:52 |
| ochosi | elfy: yes | 10:52 |
| knome | well we should investigate | 10:53 |
| elfy | thought so - ty ochosi | 10:53 |
| knome | at least if it affects installs.. | 10:53 |
| knome | i mean, | 10:53 |
| knome | it's not a huge issue if packages are installed but not used | 10:53 |
| knome | as long as they don't start running and giving an unwanted experience | 10:53 |
| ochosi | xscreensaver will most likely be running, but not doing anything | 10:54 |
| ochosi | anyway, tbh i don't think i have time to investigate this issue | 10:54 |
| ochosi | someone with more packaging/distro experience should take this up | 10:54 |
| knome | yes... but is there a bug or something for that? | 10:54 |
| ochosi | i'll try to work on the settings sync for xfce4-session/xfpm/light-locker-settings with respect to "lock on suspend", that's kinda enough for now | 10:55 |
| ochosi | not that i know iof | 10:55 |
| ochosi | i wouldn#t even be sure what to file it against | 10:55 |
| ochosi | probably xubuntu-meta | 10:55 |
| ochosi | but i dunno | 10:55 |
| elfy | knome: not sure what's up with the two beta release note pages - the common infrastructure bits are all fubar - I've no idea what's up with them | 10:57 |
| brainwash | but if no package depends on xscreensaver anymore, it should get removed automatically during the upgrade process, or? | 10:57 |
| knome | elfy, hmm? | 10:57 |
| ochosi | brainwash: i really have no clue how upgrades work exactly, would be cool if you could test... | 10:58 |
| elfy | Include: Nothing found for "^##StartTrustyReleaseBugs"! for instance | 10:58 |
| knome | hmm right | 10:58 |
| knome | paste me the link | 10:58 |
| elfy | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Beta1/Xubuntu | 10:58 |
| elfy | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Beta2/Xubuntu | 10:59 |
| knome | fixed | 11:01 |
| elfy | ta :) | 11:02 |
| brainwash | ochosi: not sure what has changed, but I did the upgrade to trusty months ago and xscreensaver got even removed on the normal update runs | 11:09 |
| ochosi | well if that happens, then the gtk2 indicators should also go away by default, no? | 11:09 |
| brainwash | I reinstalled it like 2-3 times | 11:09 |
| brainwash | unless they are marked as manually installed | 11:10 |
| brainwash | I don't feel like downloading saucy, installing it, upgrading it and then still not having a clue about what's going on | 11:12 |
| elfy | why should you be any different :p | 11:13 |
| brainwash | don't you do this stuff like every day? :P | 11:14 |
| elfy | confusion - absolutely :p | 11:14 |
| brainwash | you could run "apt-mark showmanual | grep xscreensaver" to check if xscreensaver is marked as manually installed | 11:18 |
| ochosi | brainwash: you can also download precise ;) | 11:21 |
| ochosi | my system is a clean install btw, so that command doesn' | 11:21 |
| ochosi | t make sense to test for me | 11:21 |
| wabbla | hi all, i just saw that, the option "encrypt homefolder" when adding a user is gone in 14.04. is that intended? | 12:31 |
| brainwash | wabbla: hey | 12:34 |
| brainwash | you mean the settings manager > users and groups? | 12:34 |
| brainwash | tool | 12:34 |
| wabbla | yes | 12:34 |
| brainwash | the checkbox is still there for me | 12:35 |
| wabbla | it's not here for me. that's interesting. maybe the window is too small. | 12:37 |
| wabbla | it should be in the first dialog, when it asks for the username, right? | 12:37 |
| brainwash | or a missing dependency | 12:37 |
| brainwash | yes | 12:37 |
| brainwash | close to the bottom | 12:38 |
| knome | elfy... i just can't reproduce bug 1294209 :) | 12:38 |
| ubottu | bug 1294209 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "Deleting files from desktop freezes machine for short period" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1294209 | 12:38 |
| brainwash | boo | 12:38 |
| brainwash | mark as incomplete :) | 12:38 |
| ochosi | knome: me neither | 12:38 |
| ochosi | iirc elfy said he can't either with a new user..? | 12:38 |
| knome | hmm, aha | 12:38 |
| knome | not in the bug report though | 12:39 |
| brainwash | some log file would be helpful, but elfy stated there is nothing special logged | 12:39 |
| elfy | wabbla brainwash I don't see it in a machine installed yesterday | 12:41 |
| elfy | knome: I can only reproduce that on this machine - it's not long for this world ... | 12:41 |
| brainwash | ok, lets check why it hides the option | 12:41 |
| knome | elfy, oki, marked it as incomplete, open if it reappears with any other machine or you have any better debug information | 12:42 |
| elfy | ok | 12:43 |
| wabbla | brainwash: i installed encfs and libpam-encfs, it still doesn't appear. will logout, and maybe reboot if that changes something. | 12:43 |
| brainwash | wabbla: is ecryptfs-utils installed? | 12:45 |
| wabbla | brainwash: not by me. i will try that | 12:46 |
| brainwash | encfs is usually not being used to encrypt the home partition | 12:46 |
| elfy | there were issues with encrypted home install tests during beta - coincidence probably | 12:49 |
| wabbla | brainwash: ah, here it is (with ecryptfs-utils). cool, not a bug :-) | 12:49 |
| wabbla | another issue with playing around with encrypted installs yesterday: xubuntu does not boot, if i check "encrypt filesystem" in installation of a KVM guest | 12:51 |
| brainwash | so it's a full disk encryption? | 12:52 |
| wabbla | yes, that option when you have when choosing the partitioning setup, lvm etc. | 12:53 |
| brainwash | possibly a general ubuntu issue or regression | 12:54 |
| * elfy tries here in vb | 12:54 | |
| wabbla | in virtualbox it works. | 12:54 |
| * elfy doesn't bother | 12:54 | |
| brainwash | oh, so it's a special case | 12:55 |
| brainwash | I suggest that you try to ask in #ubuntu+1 and/or #ubuntu-devel | 12:56 |
| wabbla | yes, maybe it never worked ... ok, not that i need it, i was just trying. but home encryption is nice to have. | 12:57 |
| brainwash | feel free to file a bug report on launchpad :) | 12:58 |
| elfy | sun's out - so am I | 12:59 |
| SergioAD | Hello | 13:40 |
| SergioAD | I am SergioAD a fan of Xubuntu | 13:40 |
| SergioAD | I am a Linux user since six years and I am here to suggest the new style of Xubuntu 14.10 now because you know wat the end of the Winbugs XP is soon, well lets start | 13:42 |
| SergioAD | my suggested style is the next the panel on the buttom whisker menu firefox show desktop parole task manager separator systray indicators clock and log out boton | 13:44 |
| brainwash | SergioAD: hello there, why do you want to focus on 14.10 already? 14.04 is a very important release which requires our full attention right now | 13:45 |
| brainwash | on top of that, saying something in this chat might or will get lost | 13:45 |
| brainwash | so it would be very nice if you could create a document or wiki page to visualize your ideas for 14.10 | 13:46 |
| brainwash | and share it after the actual release of 14.04 | 13:47 |
| SergioAD | brainwash, because it will be LTS :) | 13:47 |
| SergioAD | OK | 13:48 |
| SergioAD | how can I do it? | 13:48 |
| knome | SergioAD, is it just a proposal, or are you willing to work with others and improve and argument for it? | 13:49 |
| knome | my intention is not to sound negative or bitter... it's just that many of these ideas end up being ideas and not much more | 13:49 |
| knome | so unless you have a clear target and intention and motivation to push it forward, creating a wikipage won't be of much help | 13:50 |
| SergioAD | knome, I have it, my intention is make Xubuntu ideal for new users and make it better | 13:51 |
| knome | in that case, use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications to create a new spec for the U-cycle | 13:52 |
| SergioAD | OK | 13:52 |
| knome | after you've done that, and you think you have covered all the issues mentioned in the spec template, send an email to the xubuntu-devel mailing list | 13:53 |
| knome | introducing both yourself and the spec you have written | 13:53 |
| knome | and thanks | 13:53 |
| micahg | hello | 14:03 |
| knome | hey | 14:04 |
| micahg | I'll get the FFe stuff uploaded as soon as I can | 14:04 |
| knome | UIFe too? ;) | 14:06 |
| knome | micahg, also, if you have any ideas about the failing wallpaper issue, feel free to poke at it | 14:07 |
| micahg | knome: sure | 14:09 |
| micahg | if I can get a list somewhere (or if it's in the sponsorship queue) | 14:09 |
| knome | bug 1298711 | 14:10 |
| ubottu | bug 1298711 in xubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] New Xubuntu wallpaper" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1298711 | 14:10 |
| micahg | I haven't worked much with ubiquity | 14:10 |
| knome | the branch is prepared. | 14:10 |
| micahg | ok, great | 14:10 |
| knome | bug 1282227 | 14:14 |
| ubottu | bug 1282227 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "xfdesktop-settings dialog not immediately displaying all available wallpapers" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1282227 | 14:14 |
| knome | i'm off. | 14:16 |
| knome | thanks micahg | 14:16 |
| knome | -< | 14:16 |
| micahg | ok | 14:19 |
| elfy | it's raining and I'm back | 15:42 |
| jhenke | hi | 15:44 |
| elfy | hi jhenke | 15:44 |
| brainwash | elfy: some hours later, next batch of upgrades -> affected python apps launch properly again :) | 15:47 |
| elfy | brainwash: lol - so turn off proposed :p | 15:47 |
| brainwash | yes sir | 15:50 |
| brainwash | :) | 15:50 |
| elfy | brainwash: lol | 15:56 |
| * elfy updates to see what's new | 15:56 | |
| elfy | not very much | 15:57 |
| elfy | lderan: be my guest at calling for that help now :) | 18:02 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: should we also fix/refresh our custom xfdesktop patch and add it to the merge request? | 18:58 |
| brainwash | or wait for the next one | 18:58 |
| Noskcaj | brainwash, might as well add it to this one. Link to the patch? | 18:59 |
| brainwash | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfdesktop4/+bug/1295614 | 18:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1295614 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "xfdesktop leaking memory on wallpaper change (ubuntu 14.04 with xfce)" [High,In progress] | 18:59 |
| Noskcaj | I have to finish some gnome stuff first though | 18:59 |
| brainwash | well, the patch has not been refreshed yet | 18:59 |
| brainwash | wait, my PPA has it | 18:59 |
| brainwash | https://code.launchpad.net/~thad-fisch/+junk/xfdesktop4-debian | 19:00 |
| brainwash | debian/patches/xubuntu_set-accountsservice-user-bg.patch | 19:00 |
| brainwash | I'm also trying to fix the last xfdesktop related issue in our -bugs list, but this will take more time, so it will be patched later (hopefully) | 19:03 |
| brainwash | xfdesktop not showing icons for network icons | 19:04 |
| elfy | brainwash: yea - pretty sure I've seen that when testing something | 19:09 |
| elfy | gigolo | 19:10 |
| brainwash | gigolo and thunar know how to handle network shares, but it's a new feature in xfdesktop and apparently not tested enough | 19:11 |
| elfy | yea - just saying where I'd seen it | 19:12 |
| jhenke | good night | 20:59 |
| brainwash | slickymaster: can we close bug 1214361? | 21:57 |
| ubottu | bug 1214361 in xfce4-appfinder (Ubuntu) "xfce4-appfinder crashed with SIGSEGV in xfconf_g_property_channel_disconnect()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1214361 | 21:57 |
| brainwash | appears to be an one time crash | 21:59 |
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