=== kubuntu is now known as Guest69792 === 17SAAA8SH is now known as Phoenixz === Anonymous is now known as Guest84179 === josef_ is now known as josvuk === fu is now known as fu_ === fu_ is now known as fu__ [03:43] hello, I would like to ask a question [03:44] or someone can help me to find the answer [03:45] I have installed Kubuntu 13.10 to HDD. And now I want to install Kubuntu 13.10 to a SSD. [03:47] I heard somethings need to be done in order to optimize the SSD (Trim?) after installing Kubuntu but i can not find step-by-step guide [04:48] !ssd [04:48] nope, ok [04:52] hrm, someone should write that [04:53] indeed, but I don't know enough to do it [04:53] my son got me started when I bought this laptop from him [04:54] I know the theory, but not the steps [05:03] http://apcmag.com/how-to-maximise-ssd-performance-with-linux.htm [05:05] interesting - DarthFrog's page is completely blank in chromium [05:05] Works in Firefox. [05:06] hmmm, blank there too [05:07] and in rekonq and konq [05:08] bummer [05:10] In a nutshell, make sure you have the "noatime" option set in fstab. That's the Linux equivalent of TRIM. [05:20] erm, no, it isn't [05:21] noatime stops file access time metadata from being updated. TRIM tells the SSD which bits of the drive can be freed up for write levelling. [05:24] !trim is Many Solid State Drives support TRIM, which allows the drive to do garbage collection and improves performance. See http://askubuntu.com/a/19480 for information on activating it. [05:24] I'll remember that, rww [05:24] !ssd is trim [05:24] I'll remember that, rww [05:28] that's good, and it would be nice to have an official guide to installing *ubuntu to an SSD/HD setup, which is more and more common [05:29] my first attempt was a bit hosed, so my son reinstalled [05:29] I haven't needed any help for years, until then [05:29] :( [05:31] Personally in that situation I'd put / on the SSD and /home on the HD, and [05:31] !separatehome [05:31] Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving [05:32] you can do it during the installer too, but I don't use Ubiquity much so not sure what the instructions would be for that [05:35] rww: that's what I was attempting to do, but fouled up grub somehow [05:36] what complicated it was that I wanted to keep the win partition(s) on the HD as well [05:36] just in case I have time for testing KDE on windows [05:38] son said reinstalling was easier than repairing grub, which was true [05:38] ah, yeah. Two drives and Windows and Linux gets interesting [05:39] he doesn't mind showing off to his old ma [05:40] lol === Anonymous is now known as Guest24429 [07:13] Hi, Princessvaleyri and I have been having this problem on a clean install of 13.10 on a Dell N5010 with a i5 450M, 4GB of RAM, 500GB hard drive. Kubuntu is installed to the full hard drive. There are no other OSes. The window manager appears to have broken [07:14] Can you explain more, Princessvaleyri? [07:15] I've been trying to help her troubleshoot, but I'm afraid it's beyond my skills [07:16] Install was done through mini.iso, /home encrypted, guided partitioning with LVM and encryption, [07:16] Chrome, file viewer, taskbar are malfunctioning [07:17] Installed packages during install were kubuntu-desktop and huge collection of fonts [07:19] did you try `sudo apt-get -f install`? [07:19] that should catch any broken packages and reinstall them [07:20] valorie [07:20] I'm having trouble reaching terminal [07:20] I installed zram-config and set swappiness to 10 [07:20] I tried to reboot into recovery through grub [07:21] I don't know what those are; sounds like you are more expert than I am [07:23] control+alt+f2 doesn't get you to a console? [07:23] Nope [07:23] also you should be able to alt+f2 `konsole` [07:23] None of those seem to work :/ [07:23] Let's try again [07:24] Princessvaleyri: alt+f2 doesn't pop up 'krunner' at the top of your screen? [07:25] it is very slim [07:25] just big enough to type a line of text [07:25] if not, it sounds like KDE didn't get installed [07:26] valorie, I remote desktoped in a little while ago. Everything was up and running [07:26] Like normal [07:26] Although I'll admit I don't know much about kubuntu [07:26] Valorie: nope. It has no response [07:28] how about from the kmenu? [07:28] you should be able to start konsole from there [07:29] Nothing seems to work [07:30] except IRC, eh? [07:30] that and a browser are the most important to me [07:30] valorie: (they're running IRC on their phone :P) [07:31] Andchat FTW [07:31] ah [07:31] Although, my computer is still up... [07:31] :D [07:32] BlitzHere: when you remote-desktopped, did you try sudo apt-get -f install ? [07:32] I couldn't get to konsole [07:32] or a terminal? [07:32] Bope [07:32] I think Princessvaleyri got it up now though [07:32] oh, awesome [07:33] I had access to the file browser and it some how worked [07:33] I know it is hard as a beginner to know how to frame questions [07:33] Konquerer = awesoem [07:34] but the terminal is always useful [07:34] yes, konq continues to be awesome, even from the dark ages [07:34] dolphin is also great [07:35] Oh, I guess dolphin = awesome. Completely out of touch with KDE :P [07:36] Anyway, what does build-dep do? [07:36] I would want to reinstall all kubuntu-desktop and it's dependencies [07:36] Nothing's been customized [07:36] There's nothing to lose [07:37] sudo apt-get install –reinstall kubuntu-desktop sudo apt-get build-dep kubuntu-desktop [07:37] build-dep gives you the -dev versions [07:37] ? [07:37] Okay then [07:37] if you plan to build stuff from source, you need those build-depends [07:38] otherwise not [07:38] sudo apt-get install –reinstall kubuntu-desktop won't fix dependencies right? [07:38] kubuntu-desktop is a meta-package [07:38] Exactly [07:38] all the dependencies will be installed [07:38] that's the point [07:38] How do I make apt-get REinstall all dependencies? [07:39] just doing a sudo apt-get -f install will fix any broken packages [07:39] I did that [07:39] and things still aren't working? [07:39] Brb, valorie:thanks [07:40] Princessvaleyri, upload screenshots or pictures to might or something [07:40] Valorie: nope [07:40] Ok [07:40] yes, screenies would help [07:40] imgur is free [07:41] I use wmstaw usually [07:41] function+printscreen key should start up ksnapshot [07:42] otherwise, alt+f2 `kscreenshot` will start it up [07:42] I can't even take screenshots here. [07:43] does the screenshotter start up? [07:43] Just take pictures with phone [07:43] No [07:43] heh [07:44] good grief [07:44] May be I should do a clean install? [07:44] any particular reason you installed from mini-iso? [07:44] I have no experience with that [07:45] if you have a USB key, downloading the ISO and installing from there is really easy [07:46] Hm. I think everything was working decently till I changed swappiness [07:46] I've never touched swap [07:47] I've never heard of zram-config either [07:47] !info zram-config [07:47] zram-config (source: zram-config): Upstart job to enable zram support. In component main, is extra. Version 0.1 (saucy), package size 3 kB, installed size 41 kB [07:48] Hm. I think kubuntu was way slower and laggy on my computer than Ubuntu [07:48] I'm gonna reinstall and check if it works. [07:48] I have been at it for hours now. [07:49] it's really snappy here [07:49] any reason you wanted to mess with swap and zram? [07:49] My idea [07:49] for what reason? [07:49] It's just something with the install, Kubuntu=Ubuntu IMO as far as smoothness goes [07:50] Major RAM problems with Chrome [07:50] I've been using linux for 10+ years and have never needed such extras [07:50] I've been using chromium as my main browser for close to a year [07:50] outside of the occasional flash problem, it's great [07:50] FF started crashing too often [07:51] Open up one too many tabs and you hit the end of RAM and everything freezes up while it's trying to move data to HDD [07:51] Funnily enough [07:51] I have no issues on my machine either [07:51] With chrome [07:51] I've never tried chrome as such [07:51] just chromium [07:51] and I've had 50+ tabs open [07:51] fewer than that usually though [07:52] But anyway, Ubuntu recommends swappiness of 10 for desktop systems [07:52] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq [07:52] I couldn't open 8 tabs on it after installing kubuntu [07:53] And the most I could open on Ubuntu was 20 with a lot of effort. [07:53] I have a i5-3230 system with 8GB 1600MHz RAM system and a 7200rpm 500GB HDD and I've never really had any issues with RAM either [07:53] Except once when I opened up 9 instances of this online game :P [07:54] I don't think I have swap at all [07:55] Sysinfo for 'valorie-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC': Running inside KDE 4.12.95 on Ubuntu 14.04, Trusty Tahr powered by Linux 3.13.0-19-generic, CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II P960 Quad-Core Processor at 800-1800/1800 MHz, RAM: 5403/5712 MB, Storage: 456/528 GB, 209 procs, 11.43h up [07:55] I guess I have enough ram not to need it [07:55] this is my son's old gaming laptop [07:56] and by the way, Trusty is smooth as silk [07:59] I never hear of people here in #kubuntu adjusting swappiness, and my bouncer is here 24/7 === josef_ is now known as josvuk [08:08] * valorie goes offline; best of luck, BlitzHere and Princessvaleyri [08:09] Thanks! === calin is now known as crucerucalin [08:35] Good morning. [09:09] eval [09:32] Hello! Does any Kubuntu LTS ISO allow for manual package selection during installation? [09:49] jotik: no [10:05] hmm... Its just that I don't find the default kubuntu artwork very pretty. I'll try the ubuntu mini cd instead, install kde-full. Thanks! [10:07] I thought Kubuntu artwork and KDE artwork was one and the same. [10:51] 'Morning folks [11:25] amarok doesn't seem to launch. am I doing something wrong? [11:27] onca: What version of Kubuntu are you running? === onca1 is now known as onca === onca is now known as Guest17512 === Guest17512 is now known as osolus === osolus is now known as odium [11:58] amarok just crashes when I launch it and doesn't load, if I try to execute it from the command line it says it's already running and "QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave." === odium1 is now known as odium [12:00] also my wireless adapter cuts out every five minutes === odium is now known as Guest61571 [12:00] I've just updated kubuntu 14.04 beta and restarted it. then I've got 'baloo_file' in ksysguard uses cpu constantly and hasn't stopped yet, what is it for? [12:04] mamat: Baloo is the new nepomuk, it is probably doing an initial index. Also #ubuntu+1 is for Trusty support. [12:05] mamat, don't crosspost the same questiuon in several channels [12:05] okay, BluesKaj [12:09] hellothere [12:09] Thank you guys for your help yesterday. === Guest61571 is now known as osolus === mamat is now known as miraiE === miraiE is now known as mamat [12:36] shadeslayer: ping [12:37] pong [12:37] ssup [12:37] does beta2 have baloo? [12:38] I have beta1 with a ppa Riddell had shared. Wondering should I upgrade that or download the beta2 iso/ [12:38] yeah just upgrade [12:38] should be fine [12:38] or well [12:38] Ninjas might have RC [12:38] remove the ppa or not is the question ;) [12:39] remove it [12:39] and check dist-upgrade output [12:39] okay [12:39] to make sure stuff isn't being removed [12:43] cool, its upgrading baloo etc even after removing the ppa. I'll dist upgrade [12:43] Shaan7: make sure it's not *removing* stuff [12:43] ah, I didnt make it explicit, its not. [12:44] awesome [12:56] hey guys. I'm currently using 13.10, but it's too much buggy for me :( Do you think it would be a nice idea to jump to 14.04 beta 2?. Any one in here using it? [12:57] sounds like a bad idea to blindly move to pre-release software because you're having problems with stable software [12:58] whenever I try to launch amarok - the following happens and I have to manually kill the pid.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7173976/ [12:58] yes, I know, but I really like to work on Kubuntu :( [12:59] another option is too jump back to 12.04 at least for a month [13:00] odium, did you check that in here http://goo.gl/auK7Wx ? [13:01] chachan: I have a impairment that makes doing that next to impossible. [13:01] I don't know how [13:02] I can't even remember what version of kubuntu I installed and it's the beta [13:02] cat /etc/lsb-release [13:03] odium, that might release you from that pain [13:13] codename trusty [13:18] How do I manually save a session in kubuntu? [13:18] that is how can I assert that I want pidgin and konsole to launch whenever I log int? [13:23] oh, I got it [13:23] no easy way to get konsole to start eh? [13:23] I have it launching mdate [13:23] and keeping the command line open [13:34] odium, 14.04 support in #ubuntu+1 [14:05] hi [14:05] hi [14:07] hi shimano [14:07] can you help me ? [14:08] !ask [14:08] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [14:08] shimano, I'll try, what's your issue? [14:08] ok [14:09] i have a problem with window grafic [14:12] shimano, more details please [14:12] I move the window left and right are seen stripes. and give up when they see stripes down the middle video [14:13] sorry for english i use google translate [14:16] video on youtube for more details https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGBImPHrBf4 [14:22] shimano: Your display resolution isn't set correctly. Use SystemSettings/Hardware/Display and Monitor/Display Configuration to change it. [14:23] when i logout and login the system frozen for few seconds i can't to do nothing [14:23] shimano: What video card do you have? [14:23] gforce gtx 650 ti 1 Gb [14:23] Oh, that's a very old card. [14:23] old? [14:24] 2013 [14:24] ? [14:24] Oh, right. Sorry. :-) [14:24] Are you using the nouveau video drivers or the proprietary Nvidia ones? Nouveau would have been installed by default. [14:25] i install 331.38 driver from driver manager (recomndet) [14:26] OK, then you need to change your display resolution. [14:26] ok go to change [14:26] 5 sec i back [14:29] Configuration to change it. i have VGA-0 1024x768 [14:30] it my resolutin [14:35] maibe go to set on nvidia settings my resolutin and save to xorgconfig [14:41] which is the latest stable kubuntu version and also good for building kde enviroment?? [14:41] you ask me? [14:42] harshi: 13.10 is the current latest stable release of kubuntu [14:43] and if you are building kde - you should be able to figure out the stable versions and their limitations [14:46] i go to RR my PC to sea changes [14:51] can u tell me which one is better to install ? LTS version or 13.10 version ? [14:51] harshi: Depends on your use case. [14:52] I want to develop kde envrionment and work on kde pim [14:52] harshi: If you want rock solid, go LTS. If you want newer software go Saucy. [14:52] harshi: Then you probably want Saucy, you might even go development release. (Though development isn't really recommended) [14:53] oh so u mean it releases new packages and software in 13.10 version and not in LTS ? [14:54] harshi: Somethings are backported but not everything. [14:54] and then i can automatically update for newer version 14.10 using sudo apt-get update ? [14:55] lordievader: somethings ae backported for ? 13.10 or LTS ? [14:56] LTS. An LTS runs generally older software. Somethings are kept up to date (through backports) but not everything. [14:57] nothings changes [14:58] lordievader: thanxs .. then installing saucy :) [14:59] Have fun ;) [15:02] thanks for help [15:02] BluesKaj thank you for help === mhall119|offline is now known as mhall119 [15:59] hi everyone, i have a laptop with 2 hds and would like to replace the secondary with an SSD. The secondary has kubuntu both root and home partitions and the primary has ms wins and of course boot sector. Is there a way not to re-install everything on the secondary disk? [16:12] !dd [16:12] hmm [16:26] Hellu, folks just updgarded tyo beta 14.04, crashed in the middle of uinstall but fixed it using dpkg --configure -a then continue apt-get dist-upgrade after all this I rebooted. But I just noticed there is a process eating CPU named: baloo_file_extr? whats that? [16:26] install* [16:33] mike7b4_on_x230: Support for the beta is in channel #ubuntu+1 === emanuele is now known as betaFPUIKnowYou === calin is now known as crucerucalin [18:35] WARNING: Do not use the Ubuntu kernel 3.13.0.20. It is borked. Specifically, regardless of the fact that all of Alsa is installed, it can't find it. Also, restart and shutdown (from the graphics) does not work. Manual (power cycle) does. [18:38] tyche: Hmm, that might explain things. Have you filed a bug report? [18:44] Nope. I'm not formally attached to Ubuntu any more. Besides, every time I filed one when I was attached, I was told I was wrong and didn't know what I was doing (other explatives were also used, that I won't mention here) [19:05] hiho xD [19:07] Hey tango [19:07] :) [19:08] how was your day? [19:09] Good so far. [19:10] This chanel every time is empty? [19:11] tango: It's usually pretty quiet :) === ken is now known as Guest76203 [19:13] so we talk about kubuntu :p [19:13] how long U use this system? [19:15] tango: That is more for #kubuntu-offtopic. [19:16] hmm so in this chanel we can talk about only for problem in kubuntu? [19:16] tango: Yes. [19:17] i'm here first time :p and first time on irc :p [19:17] aff sorry [19:17] your's font color is red, U are admin? [19:19] tango: No, that's a setting of your irc client. [19:23] lord current kubuntu relase is 14.04 yes? [19:23] no, 13.10. 14.04 comes out in April [19:24] so i upgrade my system to 14.04, so now i have version nonstable? [19:24] Greetings, I'm trying Kubuntu 14.04 and I'm happy with it, I'm running it on an intel 4th generation laptop with HD 4400 graphics, I get some graphical glitches occasionally, is this a known issue ? [19:24] tango: indeed [19:25] omg xD [19:25] tango: 14.04 is still a development release. [19:25] but all work very nice [19:26] xee: Support for Trusty is in #ubuntu+1 [19:26] lordievader, thanks :) [19:28] bb all, we see tomorrow :* === ubuntu is now known as Guest91642 [20:32] Merhaba [20:33] Bu programda daha yeniyim. Konuşmak için burayamı yazıyoruz ? [21:19] I'm trying to filter out syslog messages.... I wrote a simple filter and put it in /etc/rsyslog.d/my_dhclient.conf . The entire contents of the file: if $programname == 'dhclient3' then /var/log/dhclient.log &~ but it doesn't do what I want..... which is to say send dhclient messages to the other log, but not to syslog. [22:05] tes [22:06] tes [23:19] i'm getting a lof of segfault with virtuoso-t [23:20] Mar 29 17:20:10 mordor kernel: [ 7995.368702] virtuoso-t[18249]: segfault at ffffffffffffffff ip 0000000000939d75 sp 00007f106ffb6d50 error 7 in virtuoso-t[400000+b09000] [23:20] Mar 29 17:20:13 mordor kernel: [ 7999.124918] virtuoso-t[18267]: segfault at ffffffffffffffff ip 0000000000939d75 sp 00007f8508a71d50 error 7 in virtuoso-t[400000+b09000] === kubuntu is now known as Guest66417 === Guest66417 is now known as Zinz [23:27] Hi all can anyone help me resizing a partition_ [23:27] pretty please [23:29] anyone please? [23:32] Zinz, i may [23:33] Zinz, http://en.kioskea.net/faq/2036-how-to-resize-a-partition-using-gparted-on-linux [23:33] there bro [23:33] Zinz, http://www.howtoforge.com/partitioning_with_gparted [23:33] and there [23:34] I-ve already started resizing just wanna confirm i-m doing the right thing [23:38] ove partition ‘/dev/sda1’ to the right by 6.84 MiB and shrink it from 0.90 TiB to 406.59 GiB [23:38] Job: Check file system on partition ‘/dev/sda1’ [23:38] Command: e2fsck -f -y -v /dev/sda1 [23:38] e2fsck 1.42.8 (20-Jun-2013) [23:38] Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes [23:38] Pass 2: Checking directory structure [23:38] Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity [23:38] Pass 4: Checking reference counts [23:38] Pass 5: Checking group summary information [23:38] 151036 inodes used (0.25%, out of 60530688) [23:38] 62 non-contiguous files (0.0%) [23:38] 93 non-contiguous directories (0.1%) [23:38] # of inodes with ind/dind/tind blocks: 0/0/0 [23:38] Extent depth histogram: 141643/11 [23:38] 4810128 blocks used (1.99%, out of 242119168) [23:38] 0 bad blocks [23:38] 1 large file [23:38] 121480 regular files [23:38] 18846 directories [23:38] 57 character device files [23:38] 25 block device files [23:38] 0 fifos [23:38] 0 links [23:38] 10617 symbolic links (9290 fast symbolic links) [23:38] 2 sockets [23:38] ------------ [23:38] 151027 files [23:38] Check file system on partition ‘/dev/sda1’: Success [23:38] Job: Resize file system on partition ‘/dev/sda1’ to 852,682,005 sectors [23:38] Resizing file system from 1,936,953,344 to 852,682,005 sectors. [23:39] Command: resize2fs /dev/sda1 852682005s [23:39] resize2fs 1.42.8 (20-Jun-2013) [23:39] Resizing the filesystem on /dev/sda1 to 106585250 (4k) blocks. [23:39] The filesystem on /dev/sda1 is now 106585250 blocks long. [23:39] [23:39] Resize file system on partition ‘/dev/sda1’ to 852,682,005 sectors: Success [23:39] Job: Set geometry of partition ‘/dev/sda1’: Start sector: 2,048, length: 852,682,005 [23:39] Set geometry of partition ‘/dev/sda1’: Start sector: 2,048, length: 852,682,005: Success [23:39] Job: Set geometry of partition ‘/dev/sda1’: Start sector: 16,065, length: 852,682,005 [23:39] Set geometry of partition ‘/dev/sda1’: Start sector: 16,065, length: 852,682,005: Success [23:39] Job: Move the file system on partition ‘/dev/sda1’ to sector 16,065 [23:39] Copying 6,634 blocks (852,682,005 sectors) from 852,555,533 to 852,569,550, direction: -1. [23:39] Am I doing the right thing? [23:45] Zinz: geez, use a pastebin [23:45] !paste [23:45] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [23:48] sorry I-n new here [23:48] does the above sound right? [23:51] hello [23:52] anybody can help me with kubuntu:? [23:53] guys come on banana for hero who can help me pretty plz [23:54] or tell me where i can find somebody who can help me? [23:54] Zinz: this isn't really a kubuntu problem [23:54] why not try ##linux or something general? [23:54] hello valorie ;d [23:55] hello [23:55] do you have kubuntu? [23:56] I've had kubuntu ~forever [23:57] from 1sec to 30 -58 ping from 31-37sec ping around 500-700 from 38-150sec ping 58 from 151- 157sec ping 500-700 [23:58] again 271-276 sec ping 500-700 [23:58] why? [23:58] are youn kubuntu now? can you check if you have same problem? [23:58] on kubuntu* [23:58] what are you pinging? [23:59] lag on IRC to freenode is 195ms [23:59] google.com [23:59] but i have normal ping for 1.5min and 6sec high ping [23:59] and its not google only