| ali1234 | is it AC3 or DTS or something? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| ali1234 | ripped from DVD/blu-ray? | 00:00 |
| Azelphur | MS MPEG-4 Video v3 (DIV3) | 00:01 |
| ali1234 | what about the audio stream though? | 00:01 |
| Azelphur | AC3 | 00:02 |
| maps|wrk | ah people around | 00:14 |
| maps|wrk | hello | 00:14 |
| maps|wrk | maps speaks everyone goes:( | 00:17 |
| maps|wrk | grmpf | 01:29 |
| daftykins | :o | 01:33 |
| skinofstars | hi guys. i'm having some problems with nfs shares. i'm getting "exportfs /home/username/dir does not support NFS export" | 02:13 |
| skinofstars | not sure who's still awake at this time and wants to troubleshoot nfs issues :) | 02:14 |
| mapps | morning | 06:44 |
| foobarry | mornin | 07:04 |
| === Guest3812 is now known as mappps | ||
| bashrc | morning | 08:54 |
| popey | Morning | 09:35 |
| MartijnVdS | \o | 09:40 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:57 |
| jussi | I like to eat mussels :) | 11:07 |
| MartijnVdS | weird! | 11:09 |
| bashrc_ | installing pump.io seems really complicated | 11:58 |
| === bashrc_ is now known as bashrc | ||
| brobostigon | i have tried several times, and could never get it installed never mind running. | 11:59 |
| bashrc | statusnet was a lot easier | 12:00 |
| brobostigon | yes, that i got woprking somewhat easier. | 12:01 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 12:31 |
| * penguin42 yawwwnnnns at bigcalm | 12:57 | |
| bashrc | looks like my proxy ports are messed up | 13:07 |
| mapps | afternoon | 15:10 |
| * MartijnVdS removes a metric ***ton of scopes | 15:18 | |
| MartijnVdS | bye "firefoxbookmarks", bye "virtualbox" | 15:18 |
| MartijnVdS | bye "mediascanner" (whatever that may be) | 15:18 |
| MartijnVdS | unity-scope-gourmet?! | 15:20 |
| MartijnVdS | Why is this installed? | 15:20 |
| === daftykin1 is now known as daftykins | ||
| penguin42 | MartijnVdS: Presumably it's so that when Popey searches for Flapjack he gets something less offensive | 18:36 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: I just removed the packages. | 18:36 |
| popey | mmmmm flapjack | 18:43 |
| daftykins | i was just considering making some flapjack tonight | 18:43 |
| daftykins | as i have no post-meal snacks :) | 18:43 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/u12adt43n47o0bh/flapjack.jpg | 18:43 |
| popey | nom | 18:56 |
| MooDoo | hello all | 18:58 |
| daftykins | heya | 19:04 |
| SuperEngineer | Common sense prevails [at last]. Thank youy. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-takes-important-step-towards-modernising-copyright | 19:18 |
| skinofstars | hey all, has anyone had problems with nfs on 12.04? i'm getting 'does not suppport NFS export' errors when trying to share a folder in my home | 19:22 |
| penguin42 | skinofstars: Have you got the appropriate packages installed? | 19:31 |
| skinofstars | penguin42: nfs-kernel-server, portmap, rpcbind... i think that's all i need | 19:32 |
| penguin42 | skinofstars: Yeh that should work | 19:32 |
| penguin42 | skinofstars: when you say you're trying to share a folder in your home - how? Just by doing /etc/exports or some other way? | 19:33 |
| daftykins | hrmm anyone know off hand if there's a decent virtualbox driver in a package for trusty? | 19:33 |
| daftykins | +graphics | 19:33 |
| skinofstars | penguin42: yep. adding it to /etc/exports, then running exportfs -ar | 19:33 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: trusty certainly does have virtualbox-quest packages - whether they're decent I can't say | 19:34 |
| penguin42 | skinofstars: What filesystem is your home? | 19:34 |
| daftykins | penguin42: just trying to run an OpenGL app, would it be virtualbox-guest-x11 ? | 19:34 |
| skinofstars | penguin42: ext4 | 19:35 |
| penguin42 | skinofstars: Not encrypted or anything? | 19:36 |
| skinofstars | penguin42: actually, the filesystem isn't even partioned up. i doubt very much it was encrypted. this is a preinstalled ubuntu on a dell laptop | 19:36 |
| skinofstars | one of those dell xps developer laptops | 19:37 |
| skinofstars | penguin42: that said, there is a .ecryptfs file in /home, so it might well be | 19:39 |
| skinofstars | penguin42: damn, that means i'm gonna have to mount it outside the home folder, doesn't it | 19:39 |
| penguin42 | skinofstars: Hmm i'm betting it's ecryptfs - I've never looked at nfs exporting those | 19:44 |
| penguin42 | skinofstars: When you reinstlal your laptop with Trusty, | 19:44 |
| penguin42 | skinofstars: Use full disk luks encryption - it's 1) safer 2) has no problem with nfs | 19:45 |
| skinofstars | penguin42: wicked, thanks. my own fault here for assuming it wasn't home encrypted. i'll do the mount workaround for now. appreciate you talking through it. | 19:46 |
| penguin42 | no problem | 19:54 |
| daftykins | heh solved my issue | 19:58 |
| daftykins | needed to purge nvidia files to get a stock config back, after having installed vbox guest additions | 19:58 |
| daftykins | (this particular respin of ubuntu is for XBMC and thus comes with drivers out of the box that aren't handy) | 19:59 |
| popey | Evening slackers | 20:13 |
| daftykins | hi popey what's new? | 20:16 |
| popey | i made a few webapps for ubuntu phone this weekend | 20:27 |
| popey | for fun | 20:27 |
| zleap | hi | 20:33 |
| zleap | popey, can we still get officual ubuntu cd's | 20:35 |
| daftykins | they'd have to be DVDs now | 20:36 |
| zleap | well yeah | 20:36 |
| zleap | that is fine | 20:37 |
| zleap | i think they will press lts only so that is 14.04 | 20:37 |
| popey | we only press LTS | 20:38 |
| popey | and clearly that's not done yet | 20:38 |
| zleap | ok | 20:38 |
| zleap | so can we get some from alan B like before paying postage | 20:38 |
| zleap | i am planning ahead | 20:39 |
| bigcalm | Visiting parents is somewhat boring | 20:40 |
| zleap | lol | 20:40 |
| popey | i have no idea | 20:42 |
| bigcalm | Spent 4+ hours configuring a windows 8.1 20" tablet for my mother today | 20:42 |
| zleap | ouch | 20:42 |
| bigcalm | 1st experience of windows 8.1, don't want to use it again | 20:42 |
| popey | wait what | 20:42 |
| popey | 20"!? | 20:42 |
| zleap | it took me 1 hour on Wednesday to set up debian (minimal install) with a MC server | 20:42 |
| bigcalm | Yep | 20:42 |
| bigcalm | It's an "all-in-one" | 20:43 |
| zleap | why 4 hours | 20:43 |
| bigcalm | Sony Vaio Tap 20 | 20:43 |
| popey | so its a pc? | 20:44 |
| popey | with a battery? | 20:44 |
| penguin42 | the big touchscreen stuff is nice | 20:48 |
| penguin42 | they've just put a big ~60" touchscreen in Manchester library showing old maps that you can zoom into - nice | 20:48 |
| zleap | i take it 14.04 supports touch screens | 20:48 |
| ali1234 | not really | 20:50 |
| popey | define "supports"? | 20:50 |
| ali1234 | not unless you run the unity 8 preview | 20:50 |
| ali1234 | it supports them via the usual mouse emulation :) | 20:50 |
| ali1234 | same as it always did | 20:51 |
| zleap | ok | 20:51 |
| bigcalm | popey: yes | 20:52 |
| ali1234 | those 20" tablets are pretty cool | 20:52 |
| ali1234 | just a pity they run win 8 | 20:53 |
| popey | intel? | 20:53 |
| ali1234 | yes | 20:53 |
| * penguin42 was geekily thinking the type of consoles ST:NG had where they swung across a chair would work | 20:53 | |
| ali1234 | they are proper PCs | 20:53 |
| ali1234 | they are like that apple mac where everything is in the monitor | 20:53 |
| popey | imac? | 20:53 |
| popey | but with a battery? | 20:53 |
| ali1234 | i dunno what they are called | 20:53 |
| popey | Asus threatened to release one of them years back | 20:53 |
| ali1234 | yeah, with a battery and touchscreen | 20:53 |
| popey | i nearly bought one | 20:53 |
| popey | but they didnt sell the battery one in this country | 20:54 |
| ali1234 | you put it on your desktop and it's just like a normal monitor | 20:54 |
| popey | and it turned out to have crappy GPU | 20:54 |
| popey | so I bought an imac | 20:54 |
| ali1234 | well they probably still have a weak GPU | 20:54 |
| ali1234 | but you have to go to a big box PC to avoid that | 20:55 |
| popey | Seeing lots of Google Play adverts on telly at the moment | 20:56 |
| dwatkins | The 27" iMac comes with an Nvidia GeForce GTX 780M, which is better than what I have in my desktop PC. | 20:56 |
| ali1234 | okay, big box PC or ridiculously expensive luxury apple product :) | 20:56 |
| popey | dunno why my imac has but its nvidia | 20:57 |
| popey | could do with putting a bigger disk in it actually | 20:57 |
| dwatkins | I gather most Apple products compare well with PCs of the same spec, they just start at high spec, there are no budget options. | 20:57 |
| popey | but that's a massive PITA | 20:57 |
| ali1234 | dwatkins: they really don't | 20:57 |
| daftykins | popey: is it even a model where you can? :) | 20:58 |
| dwatkins | Well, they used to. | 20:58 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: Some do - I just wish PC laptops would more commonly use the HD displays | 20:58 |
| ali1234 | they come out at a similar price if you include the physical size of the product | 20:58 |
| popey | daftykins: what makes you ssay it cant | 20:58 |
| daftykins | popey: just depends when you bought it for how sane it is to get into i guess | 20:59 |
| dwatkins | So you get what you pay for. | 20:59 |
| ali1234 | yes, you get luxury if you pay for it | 20:59 |
| dwatkins | I like my macbook, it's nice and sturdy. | 20:59 |
| popey | daftykins: yes, you can, i have seen guides online | 21:00 |
| popey | but tbh I'd probably take it and get it done because I cba | 21:00 |
| dwatkins | you need suction cups to remove the iMac screen to get inside | 21:00 |
| popey | yeah | 21:00 |
| popey | maybe one of those hybrid drives | 21:01 |
| dwatkins | that's what I put in my macbook, popey - 750 GB hybrid Seagate | 21:01 |
| ali1234 | GTX 780M is actually worse than my graphics card :) | 21:01 |
| dwatkins | I have a 660, but I'm more concerned with CPU performance, so chose something that would do fairly well but not be expensive | 21:02 |
| popey | june 2009 is apparently when i bought the kitchen imac | 21:02 |
| popey | not bad really, it's used daily | 21:02 |
| dwatkins | likewise with my 2010 macbook | 21:02 |
| popey | 320GB disk is getting a bit tight | 21:02 |
| daftykins | oh is it a 2010 one? | 21:03 |
| daftykins | my clients one is a mid-2010 and that was easy peasy | 21:03 |
| daftykins | main issue is how to mount the SSD though given the original cage was obviously for the 3.5" disk | 21:03 |
| daftykins | i just used double sided sticky pads in the end :D | 21:03 |
| dwatkins | mine is, daftykins, yeah - it's really easy to get the base off to replace the hard drive, upgrade RAM etc. - stuff has changed a lot in that regard recently, though, as you probably know. | 21:03 |
| daftykins | indeed | 21:04 |
| daftykins | that's why i was getting at the age of popey's | 21:04 |
| popey | mine cant be 2010 | 21:04 |
| popey | i bought it in 2009 | 21:04 |
| daftykins | ah might be even easier then | 21:04 |
| dwatkins | the serial number will tell you what model it is, you can look it up on everymac | 21:04 |
| daftykins | i just bought a single suction cup, plenty :) | 21:04 |
| popey | well, it's a 2009 20" ☻ | 21:05 |
| popey | 2.66 | 21:05 |
| ali1234 | dwatkins: the 780M should be pretty similar to the 660 performance wise, and the 780M is about half of a 780 | 21:05 |
| ali1234 | 780M has much lower power use of course, being a mobile part | 21:05 |
| daftykins | popey: you could probably even ditch the optical for a second drive :) | 21:05 |
| popey | no, i need that | 21:05 |
| popey | http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iMac+Intel+20-Inch+EMC+2266+Hard+Drive+Replacement/919 | 21:06 |
| popey | doesn't look as bad as I thought | 21:08 |
| popey | now, which drive... | 21:09 |
| daftykins | sticking to mechanical for capacity's sake? | 21:10 |
| daftykins | or a lovely big SSD :) | 21:10 |
| popey | well, i want capacity and to not have to do this again | 21:10 |
| popey | so probably 2TB | 21:10 |
| popey | but then I'll need a big USB disk for backups too | 21:10 |
| daftykins | WD Red if it stays on all the time \o/ | 21:11 |
| popey | yeah, its on most of the time | 21:11 |
| dwatkins | I'm waiting for 1TB SSDs to come down in price. | 21:11 |
| popey | buy shouldn't. i will make it power off | 21:11 |
| popey | unfortunately if someone else is logged in, it doesnt shutdown | 21:11 |
| dwatkins | can't you sleep it? | 21:12 |
| popey | you can but it prompts for the admin pass | 21:12 |
| popey | whats special about red drives daftykins ? | 21:12 |
| dwatkins | ah ok, I'm admin so that wouldn't be an issue for me, but I see what you mean. | 21:12 |
| popey | i have 4 users | 21:12 |
| daftykins | certified for 24/7 running and 3yr warranty | 21:12 |
| dwatkins | WD Red according to scan.co.uk: "The drives are designed and extensively tested for compatibility in the unique 24x7 operating environment and demanding system requirements of home and small office NAS." | 21:13 |
| popey | oh | 21:13 |
| popey | it doesnt need 24/7 | 21:13 |
| dwatkins | I have three 3TB Seagate Barracudas in my NAS, one of them started giving SMART errors last week. | 21:13 |
| popey | so, i want something big and fast | 21:13 |
| popey | hybrid I guess | 21:13 |
| penguin42 | there's a fairly recent survey of drive life time isn't there? | 21:13 |
| dwatkins | I only know of Google's disk survey from a few years back. | 21:14 |
| popey | http://www.amazon.co.uk/Seagate-ST2000DX001-Hybrid-Internal-Solid/dp/B00ELAVI3I | 21:14 |
| dwatkins | If anyone has good stats on hard drive lifetimes, it'll be Google. | 21:14 |
| penguin42 | no, there was a much more recent one | 21:14 |
| popey | any reason not to get that? | 21:14 |
| penguin42 | http://blog.backblaze.com/2014/01/21/what-hard-drive-should-i-buy/ | 21:15 |
| popey | so hitachi 2TB | 21:16 |
| penguin42 | popey: I'd say a seagate hybrid wouldn't be a bad buy | 21:16 |
| daftykins | ^i've used a Lenovo with one, they're nice | 21:16 |
| daftykins | as long as you're happy with whatever warranty seagate offer, it should be good | 21:17 |
| popey | warranty is probably least of my worries | 21:17 |
| penguin42 | my normal approach with drive warranties is just to put them on the deadpile and not buy that brand for a while | 21:17 |
| penguin42 | I never return drives unless they'll do it just with the top plate - never return data | 21:17 |
| popey | i have never returned a drive | 21:18 |
| popey | well, i returned an entire laptop with a duff drive once | 21:18 |
| popey | the kitchen imac has been one of my better computer purchases | 21:19 |
| popey | as has wifeys mbp | 21:20 |
| penguin42 | Popey: Do you use it when making apple pie? | 21:21 |
| popey | i do not | 21:22 |
| popey | \o/ ordered drive and suction cups, thanks for the advice chaps | 21:22 |
| penguin42 | you do get some bizarre orders with Macs - I remember the time when the norm was RAM and a putty knife | 21:23 |
| daftykins | hahaha | 21:25 |
| dwatkins | iFixit call them 'spudgers' | 21:26 |
| MartijnVdS | so does "Dave" (the crazy ozzie) | 21:27 |
| popey | i have previously upgraded the RAM from 2GB it came with to 8GB | 21:27 |
| penguin42 | dwatkins: No, not the little ones for clips, the big putty knifes you needed to get into a Mac Mini | 21:27 |
| dwatkins | ahh | 21:27 |
| popey | so this will probably be the last upgrade for the plucky imac that could | 21:27 |
| dwatkins | popey: I take it that wasn't a case of removing the display | 21:27 |
| daftykins | RAM goes in at the bottom on those | 21:28 |
| daftykins | couple o' screws | 21:28 |
| dwatkins | handy | 21:28 |
| daftykins | 4 x SODIMMs iirc | 21:28 |
| popey | 2x | 21:29 |
| daftykins | ah perhaps that one was more restricted | 21:30 |
| daftykins | i was able to take RAM from one of my clients machines and put it in the iMac to double up, then buy one set for the MBP | 21:30 |
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