| jrwren | greg-g: what is this new policy? | 02:42 |
|---|---|---|
| greg-g | jrwren: I assume you're referrign to my tweet: it's MS's promise they will stop looking at your emails without a warrant | 02:50 |
| mrgoodcat | ms is gross | 05:24 |
| tony-smlr | SMLR E122 LIVE Video: http://youtu.be/Pd2lYHKM9WQ - Audio http://live.smlr.us:8000/streaming (3/29/2014 7:30A EDT) | 11:31 |
| cmaloney | Good morning | 13:21 |
| jrwren | greg-g: yes, oh damn. i'm glad I don't use MS for email. | 14:18 |
| cmaloney | How's the day so far? | 15:11 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: I don't think you have anything to worry about unless you're leaking MS secrets | 15:11 |
| cmaloney | then you just have the govt. to worry about. :) | 15:11 |
| cmaloney | and law enforcement | 15:11 |
| cmaloney | and some guy named Earl from accounts. | 15:11 |
| cmaloney | but other than that... | 15:12 |
| rick_h_ | party | 15:45 |
| greg-g | jrwren: and if you think it's any different at Google.... :P | 16:18 |
| jrwren | greg-g: i run my own email server for a reason. | 16:20 |
| jrwren | greg-g: i avoid google and apple and now msft products. | 16:20 |
| jrwren | e.g. gmail is used ONLY for public email lists. | 16:20 |
| jrwren | hrm.. i guess i don't avoid apple. i use an iphone | 16:20 |
| cmaloney | I use Google products a lot | 16:21 |
| cmaloney | Android Phone, Chrome Browser, Google+ | 16:21 |
| mrgoodcat | i use many google products | 16:21 |
| cmaloney | But that's mostly because I find them to be the most level-headed of the corps out there | 16:22 |
| cmaloney | and the one that stands to lose the most capital should they piss off the geeks out there. | 16:22 |
| mrgoodcat | g+, music, movies, android, gmail, search | 16:22 |
| mrgoodcat | chrome | 16:22 |
| cmaloney | books | 16:22 |
| mrgoodcat | oh yes that one too | 16:22 |
| cmaloney | They've supplanted my Nook | 16:22 |
| mrgoodcat | problem is i cant google book on my kindle, so i still use amazon for that too | 16:23 |
| cmaloney | I never bought into Amazon | 16:23 |
| cmaloney | I still prefer ePubs as they're portable between devices (for the most part) | 16:23 |
| mrgoodcat | i use amazon books | 16:23 |
| mrgoodcat | and i have amazon prime | 16:23 |
| cmaloney | That and they didn't have PDF support when I was in the eBook market | 16:24 |
| cmaloney | which is a huge detraction | 16:24 |
| mrgoodcat | i make some concessions to use google and amazon both. privacy with google, walled garden with amazon | 16:25 |
| cmaloney | It's quite difficult to lead a RMS-like lifestyle | 16:26 |
| mrgoodcat | but the convenience afforded makes it worth it | 16:26 |
| cmaloney | I find it slightly humorous that the Italian Word for "to seek" is "RICERCAR" | 16:26 |
| jrwren | RMS doesn't have a cell phone. | 16:27 |
| cmaloney | because that's not what I see when I see that word. :) | 16:27 |
| mrgoodcat | yea, in order to go full RMS you have to give up a lot of modern conveniences | 16:27 |
| cmaloney | Well, and most ebooks | 16:27 |
| jrwren | there are not ebook readers for GNU linux anyway. | 16:28 |
| mrgoodcat | self hosted email could never be as convenient as google. as much as i like the idea of self hosting | 16:28 |
| jrwren | mrgoodcat: indeed. its MORE convenient :p | 16:28 |
| mrgoodcat | i don't mean just the email | 16:28 |
| mrgoodcat | the android and now integration is what gives it value | 16:29 |
| mrgoodcat | and there aren't any open source webmail solutions as good as gmail | 16:29 |
| jrwren | now is the ultimate in scary tracking | 16:29 |
| mrgoodcat | roundcube is ok | 16:29 |
| jrwren | yes, amazing how open source completely dropped the ball on webmail solutions eh? | 16:29 |
| mrgoodcat | thunderbird is ok | 16:30 |
| jrwren | i like thunderbird a lot. | 16:30 |
| mrgoodcat | i host my own email at dyladan.me but i tend to use my gmail more | 16:30 |
| mrgoodcat | my dog is barking at the dogs in game of thrones :) | 16:31 |
| mrgoodcat | the surround sound is freaking her out | 16:31 |
| greg-g | jrwren: :) | 16:37 |
| greg-g | jrwren: my only google hosted email is forced on me for work email, though I'm going to transition to our lightly used self-hosted imap server at WMF | 16:38 |
| greg-g | (only a few opsen on it now, sounds like there might be a migration of most opsen soon, and I'll join that boat) | 16:38 |
| jrwren | for privacy reasons, I'd rather suffer with our hosted exchange at work than move to google apps | 16:40 |
| cmaloney | I'm not so sure that's a trade-off I could manage. :) | 17:14 |
| Havenstance | well today's been a better day then yesterday by far :) | 18:00 |
| === Havenstance is now known as Haven|Home | ||
| * Havenstance kicks acl requirements for samba | 20:24 | |
| Havenstance | and the uss enterprise crashed.... | 21:51 |
| Havenstance | server just died a smoky death | 21:51 |
| mrgoodcat | Havenstance: no way. The zentyal server? | 22:44 |
| Havenstance | yeah it was my home version though | 22:45 |
| Havenstance | I have another box i'll pull out of the closet tomorrow and hook up in its place | 22:45 |
| Havenstance | the box i had it on here had been slowing down even with winblows | 22:45 |
| Havenstance | wasn't sure what was going on, then it let out a squeal a small pop and lots & lots of smoke.... | 22:46 |
| Havenstance | I'll bbiaf, gotta go pick up the baby | 22:54 |
| cmaloney | Should go out to the garage more often | 23:12 |
| cmaloney | Found a copy of Neal Stepehnson's Anathem and the Apple Bluetooth Keyboard. | 23:13 |
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