[00:02] <Izaya> In 13.10 where can I go to check how my HD space I've taken up?
[00:02] <Izaya> trying to think of a "My Computer" type place for Ubuntu
[00:03] <dhaval2712> Izaya: /mnt ?
[00:03] <sudormrf> Izaya, check disk utility
[00:03] <Izaya> thank you sudormrf
[00:03] <weblordpepe> i think its computer:///
[00:03] <clue_h> Izaya, df -h in terminal
[00:03] <Izaya> tyty
[00:03] <Izaya> :-D
[00:03] <sudormrf> Izaya, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/gnome-disk-utility/
[00:03] <weblordpepe> oh. under accessories i think. called disk usage.
[00:04] <sudormrf> IIRC it's built in to 13.10
[00:04] <weblordpepe> that awesome pie-graph program
[00:04] <KyouReeUs4nfo> dhaval2712: sudo alsamixer <-- see if you can find something that you could tweak
[00:04] <dhaval2712> KyouReeUs4nfo: Tried that.
[00:04] <iancurtis> Izaya> There should be a program that is called something like "Disks" that will help you with that.
[00:04] <CyanBlob> Hey guys. I just installed Ubuntu 13.10 on my Beaglebone Black (following this tutorial: http://goo.gl/6eyDqQ) and then installed the Adafruit_BBIO library (following this tutorial: http://goo.gl/OEshOn) and I am unable to control my GPIO pins, which I could do just fine in Angstrom. The library iinstalls correctly, but nothing happens when I try to turn the pins on high. Does anyone have any ideas about how to fix this?
[00:04] <Izaya> thank you iancurtis
[00:05] <iancurtis> np
[00:05] <olalonde> where can I report an issue about a ubuntu package?
[00:06] <clue_h> launchpad bugs
[00:07] <KyouReeUs4nfo> dhaval2712: Please pastebin  output of 'cat /var/lib/alsa/asound.state'
[00:08] <dhaval2712> KyouReeUs4nfo: standby
[00:08] <olalonde> "bitcoin must be configured in order for Launchpad to forward bugs to the project's developers."
[00:09] <dhaval2712> KyouReeUs4nfo: http://pastebin.com/zycQCdTd
[00:09] <ni291187> I need help
[00:10] <ni291187> is it possible to put Ubuntu on a mobile device
[00:11] <dhaval2712> ni291187: Not quite yet if it isn't a Nexus.
[00:11] <ni291187> not an iPad if I jailbreak it
[00:12] <clue_h> olalonde, you dont need bitcoin to file bugs against an application in ubuntu, maybe youre on the wrong site?
[00:12] <dhaval2712> KyouReeUs4nfo: See anything...?
[00:13] <ni291187> so can I install it on a jail broken device
[00:16] <KyouReeUs4nfo> dhaval2712: Mic Playback Volume settings seems normal to me.  I just compared it what I have. That's all.
[00:16] <dhaval2712> Eh... thanks anyway.
[00:16] <dhaval2712> I have to go. I'll see you around I guess. Take care.
[00:17] <KyouReeUs4nfo> dhaval2712: too many controls and switches in your config though. yeah sure
[00:17] <nakurtag> How to start BF4 in 13.10?
[00:17] <dhaval2712> Bah, I just don't know anymore. I'll see you later, take care.
[00:17] <olalonde> clue_h: it's what it says in the Bugs section of the bitcoin Launchpad.. no way to report bug
[00:18] <olalonde> clue_h: https://launchpad.net/bitcoin
[00:19] <Izaya> Test
[00:21] <clue_h> olalonde, maybe here, https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin i dontt know about bitcoin stuff
[00:22] <olalonde> yeah I didn't want to report a bug about bitcoin but about the ubuntu package.. just wanted to tell them to bump bitcoin to a newer version
[00:26] <Kris_> Hello?
[00:27] <Lutamos> Hey
[00:27] <Bashing-om> Kris_: hey . A support question ?
[00:28] <Guest67635> omg
[00:28] <Guest67635> how long is this partition resizing going to take !?!?!?
[00:28] <Guest67635> been waiting like 4 hours
[00:36] <Geo> Hi, after a few days of running, my 12.04 system locks up and I get messages on console that say "<bla> blocked for more than 120 seconds" ... these messages tend to deal with nginx and php-fm.
[00:36] <Geo> Any thoughts on how to fix/where to look for these issues?
[00:37] <Geo> owncloud is about the only resource-intensive program I have running on it, which uses php-fm
[00:43] <jasabella> in windows, i can configure my netgear router via its web interface, but i dont have a browser in ubuntu server, is there any way i can configure it from ubuntu server short of installing something like lynx?
[00:44] <Bray90820_> what multitouch mouse would you recomenned for ubuntu
[00:44] <daftykins> jasabella: no
[00:46] <Bray90820_> Is there a way to run a terminal command after I click my bluetooth mouse
[00:46] <Rarrikins> Why does the shell in a vty say "Unable to connect to X server" twice right after a login?
[00:46] <Bray90820_> a bash script
[00:46] <jasabella> okie, just thought someone might have figured it out before or there was some package i could install :)
[00:49] <donc3> Hi
[00:49] <donc3> I'm trying to install ubuntu 14.04 but it gives me a grub-install error in the installation
[00:50] <donc3> someone could help me?
[00:50] <Guest67635> donc3: what is the error exactly
[00:50] <Beldar> donc3, You want #ubuntu+1 for 14.04 is all.
[00:50] <Guest67635> donc3: when i got a grub error i just reinstall and all is well
[00:51] <donc3> I have tried several times
[00:51] <thoonai> donc3: are you using the alternate install iso or the gui one iso?
[00:52] <Beldar> !14.04|donc3
[00:52] <donc3> this error : the execution of grub-install in /dev/sdb failed
[00:52] <thoonai> donc3: probably you try to install on the wrong device?
[00:54] <donc3> no thoonai
[00:55] <GunArm1> i'm trying to enable nfs version 4.1 because http://sourceforge.net/p/ms-nfs41-client/mailman/message/32155318/  in that thread the guy says enable it with # echo "+4.1" > /proc/fs/nfsd/versions
[00:55] <donc3> it's a new pc
[00:55] <GunArm1> but i don't seem to be able to write anything to the proc folder even with sudo
[00:58] <kostkon> GunArm1, because it's not a real folder    man proc for more info   also everything starting with # is a comment
[00:58] <GunArm1> i know proc is virtual
[00:58] <kostkon> anything*
[00:58] <GunArm1> also i meant # as in with su
[00:58] <kostkon> GunArm1, ok
[00:59] <GunArm1> but apparently the file doesn't exist because maybe its not part of the current linux kernel
[00:59] <GunArm1> which is wierd since in that thread the guy seems to have done it and he's using 12.04 like me
[00:59] <kostkon> GunArm1, i dont have it either
[01:00] <thoonai> which file is missing?
[01:00] <kostkon> GunArm1, on 12.04
[01:00] <mdpoop> thoonai: hey
[01:00] <mdpoop> GunArm1: hey
[01:00] <thoonai> mdpoop: o/
[01:00] <GunArm1> well its a setting "file" /proc/fs/nfsd/versions
[01:01] <GunArm1> i read somewhere else it ought to exist and have -4.1 in it indicating its off and this would change -4.1 to +4.1 in the contents
[01:01] <GunArm1> but it not existing at all in the first place seems to imply the kernel is missing the feature
[01:02] <thoonai> mdpoop: no query, if you want some suply for ubuntu, please ask here
[01:03] <Foxhoundz> How can I install php 5.5
[01:03] <Foxhoundz> on Xubuntu
[01:03] <Foxhoundz> the latest version
[01:03] <thoonai> wait no suply, support
[01:03] <Foxhoundz> I think the one in the Ubuntu repo is 5.4
[01:03] <thoonai> Foxhoundz: may I ask you why and for which purpose?
[01:04] <mdpoop> Foxhoundz: get ready for a perv telling you this is not php5 channel.
[01:05] <Foxhoundz> thoonai: To develop in PHP 5.5, of course
[01:05] <Rarrikins> Why does the shell in a vty say "Unable to connect to X server" twice right after a login?
[01:05] <mdpoop> Php5 is for servers.
[01:05] <Foxhoundz> Anyway, the purpose is irrelevant
[01:05] <mdpoop> Instal lamp
[01:05] <Foxhoundz> I could just want it for no reason
[01:06] <Foxhoundz> LAMP via Tasksel installs 5.4
[01:07] <mdpoop> Foxhoundz: See if php website has a php5.5 install for ubuntu first.
[01:08] <thoonai> Foxhoundz: If you stay with the current in the repo, its more likely that people can run your software ;) but you can download the tar.gz file from php.net and compile it manually
[01:08] <mdpoop> https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5
[01:09] <Geo> Hi, after a few days of running, my 12.04 system locks up and I get messages on console that say "<bla> blocked for more than 120 seconds" ... these messages tend to deal with nginx and php-fm, so I'm leaning towards php being the culprit. Any ideas where to start troubleshooting?
[01:09] <mdpoop> Foxhoundz: You know how to use ppa
[01:09] <GunArm1> anyone have any understanding of the presence of nfs v4 vs 4.1 in ubuntu versions/linux kernels?
[01:09] <Foxhoundz> yes
[01:09] <mdpoop> https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5 this is it Foxhoundz
[01:12] <awesomess3> GunArm1, is it the v4/v4.1 server? or client? or something else?
[01:12] <GunArm1> server
[01:13] <thoonai> Geo: could you paste a more verbose message? use paste.ubuntu.com for text
[01:14] <Geo> thoonai, unfortunately no, its been rebooted (and I just see it on the screen, it locks up)
[01:14] <Geo> but, its similar to:
[01:15] <Geo> https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/task-blocked-for-more-than-120-seconds-errors-and-crashes-890981/
[01:15] <awesomess3> GunArm1, is this what you're looking for? http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/n/nfs-utils/nfs-utils_1.2.5-3ubuntu3/changelog
[01:15] <Geo> minus the call trace below
[01:15] <GunArm1> windows 7 doesn't support nfs client except in ultimate/enterprise so I have to use this ms-nfs41-client thing from http://www.citi.umich.edu/projects/nfsv4/windows/ (really seems like the ONLY decent option) yet it only supports nfs v4.1 apparently, but nfs server on ubuntu doesnt?? except someone with this problem (http://sourceforge.net/p/ms-nfs41-client/mailman/message/32155318/) who has 12.04 like me was able to just "turn it on" my c
[01:15] <Geo> replace 'tar' with nginx, or php-fm
[01:16] <Izaya> how does one go about removing annotations in the PDF viewer?
[01:16] <GunArm1> awesomess3: thanks for digging up that change log but i'm not sure how to make use of it
[01:16] <Izaya> figured out how to add them....
[01:16] <awesomess3> GunArm1, your message was cut off @ "who has 12.04 like me was able to just "turn it on" my"
[01:16] <GunArm1> (contd)... who has 12.04 like me was able to just "turn it on" my changing a virtual file, which doesn't exist on my 12.04.  i don't get it
[01:16] <GunArm1> s/my/by/
[01:17] <Geo> thoonai, my response may have gotten mixed in with those other comments, did you see it?
[01:18] <thoonai> Geo: yes so I'm a n00b too ^^ but I'll try to help ;)
[01:18] <Geo> ah
[01:18] <Izaya> I should say, in document viewer
[01:18] <Geo> I doubt this is a noob question, unfortunately... i've been looking pretty hard for an answer
[01:18] <Geo> but, surprise me :)
[01:19] <andygraybeal> what do you guys use to backup your dvds?
[01:19] <andygraybeal> something simple and works with 12.04
[01:19] <thoonai> Geo: so asked in #nginx? probably its an known bug :)
[01:20] <awesomess3> GunArm1, there's no ms-nfs40-client?
[01:20] <Beldar> andygraybeal, Rsync for home and clonezilla for the OS.
[01:20] <Geo> I can try
[01:20] <kostkon> andygraybeal, what kind of data on the dvds
[01:20] <andygraybeal> it's movie dvds
[01:21] <kostkon> andygraybeal, handbrake
[01:21] <andygraybeal> like 'the woodwright shop'
[01:21] <andygraybeal> kostkon,.. k thanks
[01:21] <kostkon> andygraybeal, http://handbrake.fr/
[01:21] <GunArm1> nope, its only like...kinda from microsoft...?  it's development was funded by them and went into win8 apparently, but this university somehow picked it up and made it available for win7
[01:21] <GunArm1> or else you have to pay an extra few hundred bucks to m$ to use an nfs client
[01:22] <GunArm1> awesomess3: ^^
[01:22] <andygraybeal> kostkon, thankk you, will tyr
[01:22] <andygraybeal> try
[01:23] <GunArm1> awesomess3: its just so wierd that in this thread http://sourceforge.net/p/ms-nfs41-client/mailman/message/32155318/ one guy gives the advice of how to "turn it on" in ubuntu and the other guy (using 12.04) is like "ok that got me past it"
[01:23] <thoonai> Geo: I found a solution to disable the message, but not to fix the problem ^^
[01:23] <GunArm1> but it involves writing to a virtual file that doesn't exist on my 12.04
[01:23] <awesomess3> GunArm1, that is very strange about the virtual file.
[01:24] <thoonai> Geo: http://blog.ronnyegner-consulting.de/2011/10/13/info-task-blocked-for-more-than-120-seconds/comment-page-1/
[01:25] <thoonai> Geo: he changes the system cache flush rate, probably it fixes your problem :)
[01:27] <Geo> I suppose that could be it
[01:27] <Geo> we'll see
[01:27] <Geo> hanks
[01:27] <Geo> t
[01:27] <thoonai> Geo: please tell if it worked ;)
[01:28] <awesomess3> GunArm1, mount -t nfs -o vers=3 10.1.6.84:/nfsdata /nas1 -v
[01:28] <awesomess3> or wait that's client.
[01:29] <Geo> well, it'll be a few days before I would know for sure :P
[01:30] <awesomess3> GunArm1, https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/nfs41-server.txt
[01:30] <basketball> hi what is the difference between libre and open
[01:30] <basketball> does one have a ribbon ui
[01:30] <awesomess3> GunArm1, but you want this on Ubuntu...I believe.
[01:30] <jasabella> libre = free, as in freedom
[01:32] <thoonai> basketball: libreoffice is maintained by a foundation, openoffice by oracle, libreoffice is a fork of openoffice
[01:32] <basketball> thoonai,  does one have a rubbon ui like microsoft word
[01:33] <Artemis3> basketball, openoffice is no longer relevant, just forget it exists. also, the world hates the ribbon :)
[01:33] <GunArm1> awesomess3: i just realized that thread is from within the last 24 hours, i'm updating my server and rebooting to see if the change was like in the most recent kernel update
[01:33] <thoonai> basketball: no libreoffice has no ribbons and there are reasons for that ;)
[01:33] <awesomess3> GunArm1, k
[01:35] <GunArm1> awesomess3: but actually, when the link you just sent implies it might not be allowing me to write to the file because the nfs daemon is running...
[01:36] <zylophone> help please! i pressed ctrl+alt+f2 and am now in console only and had to log in - where tf is my desktop
[01:36] <zylophone> is it a new session?
[01:36] <Artemis3> yay! (i doubt you are serious)
[01:37] <zylophone> seriously, i am
[01:37] <zylophone> serious that is!
[01:37] <Artemis3> unpossible~
[01:37] <basketball> zylophone,  type startx
[01:37] <awesomess3> zylophone, Alt+CTRL+f7
[01:37] <thoonai> zylophone: alt+ctrl+f7 gets you back
[01:37] <awesomess3> I win
[01:37] <zylophone> tons of unsaved word
[01:37] <zylophone> wait, you're not taking the pee right, it won't shut down my computer will it?
[01:37] <Artemis3> if someone knows to do ctrl alt f2, how would it not know to do ctrl alt f7?
[01:38] <zylophone> well, i was reading an article in ff and it said it'd bring up a new terminal
[01:38] <zylophone> except, i didn't get to see the rest of the article
[01:38] <basketball> zylophone,  just type it i just ran it
[01:38] <zylophone> so, ctrl+alt+ f keys are separate sessions?
[01:38] <zylophone> thanks, back in to desktop
[01:39] <thoonai> zylophone: yes
[01:39] <thoonai> zylophone: you have 6Terminals standard and on the sevents your X server runs
[01:39] <zylophone> interesting, brings back the old days of programming c in text only
[01:39] <zylophone> ahh
[01:40] <zylophone> and the other terminals can run x separately?
[01:40] <george> what is the command language used in ubuntu terminal?
[01:40] <jasabella> er, it's bash
[01:40] <thoonai> george: depends on your shell
[01:40] <Artemis3> dash actually
[01:40] <thoonai> george: usually its bash
[01:41] <nosa-j> whats the best way to restore a rsync backup to a blank drive?
[01:41] <thoonai> jasabella: except hes usin zshell for example
[01:41] <george> not python?
[01:41] <thoonai> jasabella: or am i wrong there?
[01:41] <jasabella> o
[01:41] <jasabella> i dont know :)
[01:41] <Artemis3> it is called zsh
[01:41] <jasabella> if he's calling it terminal im guessing he's using the default
[01:42] <jasabella> ignore me :)
[01:42] <Artemis3> default is dash
[01:42] <jasabella> okie
[01:43] <Artemis3> feel free to change the default shell
[01:45] <Randomcake> Hi, I have a HP Win 8 laptop, and can't get an Ubuntu flash drive to boot, just get black screen! How should I go about diagnosing this?
[01:46] <thoonai> Randomcake: does your bios is configured to boot from usb drive?
[01:46] <josvuk> why is my dist not lsb compliant?
[01:47] <josvuk> should i install lsb-core or not ...
[01:48] <josvuk> Can i make it lsb compliant by installing lsb-core?
[01:48] <Randomcake> Thoonai, yes, it is, without the flash drive connected it boots fine
[01:48] <LoneStar99> what to run the following command /home/foo-user/create_auth on first boot using cloud-init... what are the proper steps
[01:49] <LoneStar99> what = want
[01:49] <thoonai> Randomcake: ok, how did you create the boot drive?
[01:49] <Randomcake> The tool the Ubuntu documentation recommended, just returning to windows to confirm what it was
[01:50] <zylophone> sudo apt-get install sl ... choo choo!
[01:52] <LoneStar99> cloud-init users here?
[01:52] <zylophone> thanks everyone. bye
[01:54] <skinofstars> hi guys. i'm having some problems with nfs shares. i'm getting "exportfs /home/username/dir does not support NFS export"
[02:09] <espen__> Hey! Could anyone here please help me out with steam on ubuntu 14.04 lts beta?
[02:10] <espen__> I keep getting errors about "Depends: libc6 (>= 2.15) but 2.19-0ubuntu3"
[02:10] <espen__> steam-launcher: Depends: jockey-common but it is not going to be installed
[02:10] <espen__>                 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.15) but 2.19-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
[02:10] <espen__> *
[02:13] <LoneStar99> anyone want to help me with cloud-init??
[02:13] <phi__> Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows how to redirect the output of a console command to the unity panel alerts.
[02:16] <skinofstars> LoneStar99: cloud-init looks interesting
[02:17] <skinofstars> LoneStar99: I've been starting with a basic machine image and building the components using ansible
[02:19] <skinofstars> LoneStar99: nice thing about doing setup with ansible is you can easily play the changes on any ubuntu server type
[02:19] <skinofstars> LoneStar99: possibly not very helpful :)
[02:21] <phi__> Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows how to redirect the output of a console command to the unity panel alerts.
[02:21] <LoneStar99> skinofstars: simply trying to get cloud-init to run a script on first boot , already have script, just not sure how to implement it with cloud-init
[02:22] <kostkon> phi__, panel alerts?
[02:24] <phi__> kostkon, yes, the kind of alerts you get on unity, when you connect to a network.
[02:24] <kostkon> phi__, notifications you mean
[02:24] <phi__> kostkon, yup, sorry.
[02:24] <kostkon> phi__, man notify-send   for the manual of... notify-send
[02:25] <phi__> kostkon, viele danke.
[02:25] <kostkon> phi__, np
[02:27] <phi__> Neat.
[02:27] <phi__> cya, and thanks for the fast help
[02:27] <kostkon> phi__, bye
[02:27] <Bashing-om> LoneStar99: Generally, cd to the location, Make the script execureable (chmod), execute the script with ./<script_name> ...
[02:28] <thoonai> Randomcake: still out there/
[02:28] <thoonai> ?
[02:28] <VlperX> hey just trying to get VLC Direct Pro to work
[02:29] <VlperX> on the computer the server is on, I can connect okay, but not via any other computer/phone
[02:29] <Demon_Jester> Hey guys, I am writing simple script to see what my memory usage (cat /proc/meminfo) I have to where it will tell me the usage in ** kB but when I try to use if command to determine to clear the cache or no I get errors just wondering if I can find a way to remove kB so my output is just numbers.
[02:29] <VlperX> 'VLC Found, but the HTTP password is wrong'
[02:30] <jpds> !ram | Demon_Jester
[02:30] <jpds> Demon_Jester: Also: cat /proc/meminfo | awk '{print $1 $2}'
[02:30] <VlperX> and I have no firewall running =/
[02:31] <Demon_Jester> thanks jpds
[02:31] <linux_unix-10> hi
[02:32] <kostkon> linux_unix-10, hi
[02:32] <linux_unix-10> how can I record sound card output using audacity?
[02:35] <VlperX> ah I think my vlc is out of date
[02:37] <linux_unix-10> how can I record sound card output using audacity? I can't find a guide on the web
[02:38] <kostkon> linux_unix-10, i guess one way to do that would be to start recording in audacity, then open pavucontrol, select the recording tab and set the monitor of your sound card as the input device for audacity.  you might need to install pavucontrol first
[02:38] <linux_unix-10> OK pavucontrol installed
[02:40] <linux_unix-10> how about input device?
[02:40] <kostkon> linux_unix-10, what do you mena?
[02:41] <kostkon> mean*
[02:45] <smyguyly> i'm trying to use a tv tuner, PVR 150, and in tvtime it says ivtv:inappropriate ioctl for device?
[02:49] <alumno_> hola
[02:49] <kostkon> alumno_, hi
[02:52] <thoonai> so I'm off
[02:54] <jon1> So I'm having a bit of trouble setting up a vnc server on my machine. I'm trying to use the tigervnc server. So I use run the command "vncserver" and try to connect to the pc from another one using tigervnc client. Each time I try to connect, however, I get "Connection refused (111)". I've opened the ports on my firewalls (5900). Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong here?
[03:07] <someone_> help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:07] <someone_> How do I get unity startup back
[03:09] <kostkon> !details | someone
[03:10] <someone_> I installed kde and now unity desktop doesn't work correctly
[03:11] <someone_> In untity app's toolbar everything disable
[03:11] <someone_> In untity app's toolbar everything is disable
[03:11] <kostkon> someone, what version of ubuntu?
[03:11] <someone_> 13.10
[03:12] <kostkon> someone, you could try this http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[03:12] <someone_> I want to get the unity start screen back
[03:13] <CarlFK> jon1: long shot, try opening and connecting to 5901
[03:13] <kostkon> someone, oh you mean the login screen, lightdm
[03:13] <someone_> yes
[03:13] <someone_> what's lightdm
[03:14] <Rarrikins> someone_: It's the screen where you log in.
[03:14] <kostkon> someone, try this http://askubuntu.com/a/245867/1651
[03:15] <CarlFK> jon1: I think vnc (any flavor) will default to creating a new x session for each .. um.. server? and it adds 1 to the starting port for each server.  (the x server you are using with your display will be +0, the first one setup by vnc is +1)
[03:15] <someone_> If I do that will I lose kde
[03:16] <kostkon> someone, no
[03:16] <someone_> good
[03:16] <someone_> I will be back
[03:17] <someone_> Do I need to restart?
[03:17] <kostkon> someone, probably you need to reboot yes
[03:17] <someone_> ok
[03:19] <balsaq> are there any issues with SSD sata3 and ubuntu?
[03:25] <daixtr> hi.. iv' been doing this routine `ssh-copy-id user@ubuntubox` and i check the pubkey got appended to .ssh/authorize
[03:26] <daixtr> _keys, but everytime i login to ubuntu, it still ask for password.. what settings did i missed?
[03:27] <Rarrikins> daixtr: Did you set up ~/.ssh/config?
[03:27] <tiblock> Hi. How i can edit crontab but not "crontab -e" because it crashes
[03:28] <someone_> I think worked
[03:28] <daixtr> Rarrikins: i don't see that file
[03:28] <someone_> I think it worked
[03:28] <Rarrikins> daixtr: Create it.
[03:28] <teward> tiblock, usually "crontab -e" doesn't crash, unless something's seriously broken, what do you mean by "crash"?
[03:28] <daixtr> then?
[03:28] <Rarrikins> daixtr: Then, add an entry for ubuntubox.
[03:28] <tiblock> teward, crontab: "/usr/bin/sensible-editor" exited with status 2
[03:29] <daixtr> Rarrikins: are we talking about the remote server here?
[03:29] <tiblock> teward, i do "crontab -e" it asks editor, i answer, it shows that error
[03:29] <Rarrikins> tiblock: EDITOR=nameofeditor crontab -e
[03:29] <UbuxubU> is it ok to install ubuntu on a SSD sata3? will it get full speed etc...?
[03:29] <Rarrikins> tiblock: Choose a different editor
[03:29] <kostkon> someone, good news
[03:29] <Rarrikins> UbuxubU: Yes.
[03:30] <tiblock> Rarrikins, oh wow, that worked. Thank you very much.
[03:30] <Rarrikins> tiblock: No problem.
[03:30] <Rarrikins> daixtr: No, the client.
[03:30] <daixtr> Rarrikins: i don't think i need that..
[03:30] <daixtr> i can ssh passwordless to other boxes..
[03:31] <daixtr> i'm using ipaddr
[03:31] <daixtr> Rarrikins: so i don't need aliase setup in config
[03:31] <daixtr> this is a server side sshd settings,,..
[03:32] <someone_> Help, On some of the apps on unity don't work. On their toolbar's everything is disabled but can still use the alt.
[03:33] <jon1> CarlFK: after some some backtracking I figured out I needed to port the port number with the address in my viewer (because the developers were too lazy to have it connect to the first available port)
[03:33] <someone_> Anyone?
[03:33] <Rarrikins> daixtr: Why aren't you using a keypair?
[03:34] <jon1> now I have a new issue. I try to connect to the vnc server, but get the error "No password configured for VNC Auth"
[03:34] <Demon_Jester> hey guys I have another question, would autossh be recommended to use in a script or no? (I would think running it in a script wouldn't be wise since if that script dies then autossh does, too and cant bring ssh tunnel back up) Just wondering. Let me know.
[03:34] <Rarrikins> daixtr: It's not too hard to set up authorized_keys or to generate a keypair, plus it's more secure, it won't ask for a password, etc.
[03:34] <Rarrikins> daixtr: I'm not sure how to do it the way you want to.
[03:35] <kostkon> someone_, sudo apt-get install indicator-appmenu    what does it say
[03:36] <someone_> kostkon: unable to lacate package
[03:37] <kostkon> someone_, hmm
[03:37] <someone_> wait, wait
[03:38] <someone_> kostkon: I miss spelled it(I'm using different machine)
[03:38] <kostkon> someone, ok. is it installing
[03:38] <kostkon> someone, was already installed?
[03:38] <someone_> yes
[03:38] <newq> If I upgrade to the Trusty Tahr beta, will I be able to upgrade to the full release when it comes out?
[03:39] <kostkon> someone, already?  better try resetting unity http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[03:39] <someone_> tried that
[03:40] <Rarrikins> What's a tahr?
[03:40] <kostkon> someone_, sudo apt-get clean   and then   sudo apt-get install indicator-appmenu --reinstall
[03:40] <kostkon> !trusty | Rarrikins
[03:41] <Rarrikins> Yeah, but what's a tahr?
[03:41] <kostkon> Rarrikins, a mountain goat or something
[03:42] <someone_> kostkon: will need log back in again?
[03:42] <kostkon> someone, yes
[03:43] <kostkon> someone_, ^^
[03:43] <Rarrikins> Oh, OK
[03:44] <someone_> kostkon: I will try resetting it again
[03:44] <kostkon> someone, ok
[03:46] <pato> hola?
[03:46] <kostkon> pato, hi
[03:46] <pato> english?
[03:47] <cfhowlett> !es|pato,
[03:48] <UbuxubU> do i have to optimize ubuntu for ssd?
[03:48] <cfhowlett> UbuxubU, no it's good to go
[03:48] <Beldar> UbuxubU, It's called trim in linux, if you like.
[03:50] <someone_> kostkon: Nope I didn't work
[03:51] <someone_> kostkon: Do you have kde on my system is the problem
[03:51] <someone_> kostkon: Do you having kde on my system is the problem
[03:52] <kostkon> someone_, not really sure
[03:53] <kostkon> someone_, so you reinstalled indicator-appmenu, then reset unity, logged out and still the same problem?
[03:53] <someone_> Some of the style are being mix between the  2
[03:53] <someone_> yes
[03:53] <kostkon> someone_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/225600/ubuntu-is-kde-styled-after-install-and-removal
[03:54] <kostkon> someone_, i mean try this http://askubuntu.com/a/225652/1651
[03:57] <isomorphismes> What's Ubuntu's default proxy setup?
[03:57] <isomorphismes> For a year webpages have loaded fine - then as of a few days ago webpages only load if I remove "system default proxy" in firefox and switch it to "no proxy".
[03:58] <isomorphismes> Whatever that is seems to be messing with apt-get update as well.
[03:59] <a123456> isomorphismes: afaik no proxy
[03:59] <a123456> no proxy as a default that is :)
[04:01] <isomorphismes> a123456: thanks for responding. So why would going from system proxy to no proxy in ffx and w3m change the outcome?
[04:02] <a123456> isomorphismes: maybe your system wide proxy was changed without your knowledge ?
[04:02] <cfhowlett> !pure
[04:02] <a123456> isomorphismes: check this link http://askubuntu.com/questions/15719/where-are-the-system-wide-proxy-server-settings
[04:03] <someone_> kostkon: It solved the style problem but not the menu problem
[04:03] <THOR_DF> server irc.virutalife.com.br
[04:03] <isomorphismes> this is what webpages look like if I use "system proxy" https://dpaste.de/epVx/raw
[04:04] <PreSSion> hello, i have got a fast question, i want to know if in ONE PART of a word document has been changed, do u can compare this comparing the binaries files? (really sry for my "engrish")
[04:04] <isomorphismes> a123456: i wonder if that is the case. I do download PPA's so tha may be a culprit. When I remove PPA's from the update-manager gui and try to run apt-get update, though, I still can't get the update to work.
[04:04] <kostkon> someone_, try again:  sudo apt-get clean and then sudo apt-get install indicator-appmenu --reinstall --install-suggests
[04:04] <Mikicacarica> MUST SEE ---> http://interesting-animals.com/kitten-meets-hedgehog-2
[04:05] <a123456> isomorphismes: check the link i just posted, clear all your system proxy settings  , then retry firefox :)
[04:05] <isomorphismes> PreSSion: I believe so. But are you trying to figure out what changed in the text by comparing binaries? or simply wnat to know THAT they are difficult?
[04:05] <PreSSion> I want do it
[04:05] <PreSSion> Because I have got a project
[04:05] <isomorphismes> a123456: I've sen that before thanks
[04:05] <PreSSion> And this is the last key
[04:06] <PreSSion> well, mini project
[04:06] <a123456> isomorphismes: and you found nothing ?
[04:06] <isomorphismes> a123456: but I can't set up squid as my proxy server - because I can't apt-get install
[04:06] <PreSSion> ahh, sry, i did translate ur message now
[04:06] <isomorphismes> a123456: i.e. I can't figure out how to download a proxy program that I could run, to follow these instructions at that AU link.
[04:06] <PreSSion> yes, i am tyring to figure out how do it
[04:06] <someone_> kostkon: I ran the cammand
[04:07] <isomorphismes> PreSSion: Do you want to know IF there is a difference, or WHAT the difference is?
[04:07] <PreSSion> I think i could do with a simple bash script
[04:07] <kostkon> someone_, two commands to be exact
[04:07] <a123456> isomorphismes: no, that is just to show you where the settings are. go back there and set proxy to NONE
[04:07] <PreSSion> ahmmm
[04:07] <isomorphismes> a123456: ok. I tried that first thing.
[04:07] <PreSSion> IF
[04:07] <PreSSion> just with the IF
[04:07] <PreSSion> it is enough
[04:07] <PreSSion> i don't need know what is changed
[04:07] <isomorphismes> PreSSion: Does diff do it for you?
[04:07] <a123456> isomorphismes: i am on xubuntu 12.04 so i cannot walk you through it
[04:08] <PreSSion> omg!!!! right, i remember when my computer teacher in the school show me it
[04:08] <someone_> kostkon: I forgot the first one
[04:08] <isomorphismes> PreSSion: http://superuser.com/questions/125376/how-do-i-compare-binary-files-in-linux
[04:08] <isomorphismes> a123456: I found the menu in question
[04:09] <PreSSion> thx!!!! I going to see the link
[04:09] <kostkon> someone_, now give the 2nd one again
[04:10] <isomorphismes> a123456: What I was describing to you before was changing the settings to "None" -- that does not fix it.
[04:10] <someone_> kostkon: I tried it again and still didn't work
[04:10] <kostkon> someone_, did you log out
[04:10] <a123456> quebre: isomorphismes
[04:10] <isomorphismes> a123456: Going into Firefox > Options > Advanced > no proxy works -- as does w3m -no-proxy . But the system-wide doesn't fix apt-get working.
[04:10] <someone_> kostkon: yes
[04:10] <isomorphismes> Weirdly also -- TTYtter and vlc *do* access the internet fine -- and always did, irrespective of messing with proxy stuff.
[04:11] <kostkon> someone_, still no global menu?
[04:11] <isomorphismes> But, R (using, I thought, curl -- which should be the same as TTYtter? -- doesn't access the internet correctly.
[04:11] <someone_> kostkon: Wait what?
[04:11] <kostkon> someone_, what's your problem exactly. sorry
[04:11] <isomorphismes> I thought about trying to reroute though some different ports - but I don't know anything about ports. Or proxies until the other day when I poked around trying to solve this.
[04:11] <a123456> isomorphismes: pm ?
[04:12] <isomorphismes> a123456: ok
[04:12] <someone_> kostkon: The menu is there but all options are disabled
[04:12] <kostkon> someone_, oh right. hmm
[04:15] <someone_> kostkon: I'm try uninstalling kde
[04:15] <kostkon> someone_, :/
[04:20] <Sanka9> Hello all!!! i have ran into some difficulties with re-installing my ubuntu 12.04, after installing 13.10, and having issues, with likely my Radeon kms driver, for my radeon 5770, juniper.
[04:21] <Sanka9> Only to find when re-installing I used the alternative installer for ubuntu 12.04.4, to preserve my LVM logical volumes, and it had issues installing the grub2, and some other stuff. Then when fixed, it was a 2d unity.  I believe this is due to hardware restrictions.
[04:21] <Sanka9> or LTS hardware enablement, which backports the newer kernels for wider hardware acceptance.
[04:22] <Sanka9> I am currently running this system, not booting into unity from the command line. I was wondering if there was a way to tweak the mirrors, to give me the precise stack.
[04:28] <daixtr> hi.. guys, does Ubuntu needs at least the user to have login.. so that ssh passwordless login will work?
[04:28] <tnk> Can anyone help me get my wifi to stop dropping packets? Using Rt73..
[04:32] <owen1> anyone using solarized theme (https://github.com/solarized/xresources/blob/master/solarized) and can tell me if his terminal background color is green or black?
[04:33] <AsurionTech> Hello
[04:34] <AsurionTech> How is everyone?
[04:34] <darkangel> is 33 Celsius Hot for a Ubuntu Hard drive?
[04:35] <tnk> Can anyone help me get my wifi to stop dropping packets? Using Rt73..
[04:36] <jellow> I get random freezes where my whole desktop locks up I'm really stumped as to the cause , Can anyone help?
[04:36] <tnk> it seems to drop packets sometimes, and not others.. it's totally fickle
[04:37] <O00O> owen1: looks like cyan black --> http://www.colorcodehex.com/002b36/
[04:44] <owen1> O00O: mine is black - http://i.imgur.com/2UpL9K5.png
[04:45] <O00O> owen1: and!?
[04:45] <owen1> O00O: why it's black?
[04:46] <owen1> on my debian laptop and desktop it's cyan black, like yours.
[04:49] <O00O> owen1: try to comment or change the S_base02 or S_base03
[04:52] <tisoy> hello guys..which is best guys 32bit or 64bit?..i'm confuse which one i choose..i have a 10yr old machine.
[04:54] <crocket> Does ubuntu 13.10 support wacom intuos pen and tablet(CTH-480)?
[04:55] <Sanka9> owen1, its green
[04:55] <crocket> I just plugged in CTH-480, but I can't do anything with it yet.
[04:55] <crocket> It is listed in lsusb.
[04:56] <Akshay> hello
[04:57] <owen1> O00O:wierd. i'll try to replace S_base03 with 02
[04:57] <tisoy> hello guys..which is best guys 32bit or 64bit?..i'm confuse which one i choose..i have a 10yr old machine.
[04:57] <owen1> Sanka9: thanks!
[04:58] <SonikkuAmerica> tisoy: 32-bit
[04:58] <SonikkuAmerica> !page: tisoy
[04:58] <SonikkuAmerica> !pae | tisoy
[05:00] <owen1> O00O: Sanka9 changing to S_base02 turn it into very bright green http://i.imgur.com/hMz2zFo.png
[05:02] <owen1> now it's fine! i don't know what happened. when switching back to 03 it looks great.
[05:04] <ocooel> have touch screen computer - is there an ubuntu touch for desktop..?
[05:08] <goldcaf> I used kvm and virt-manager for virtual machines on Ubuntu. I'm now on a different version of Ubuntu and would like to start up virtual machines from those same .img files on another partition. Is this possible?
[05:12] <tisoy> why is't my machine keep on idling?..do i need to change distro?..or switch to light distro?
[05:12] <tisoy> the cpu nearly 100 %..too hot..
[05:13] <a123456> quebre: isomorphismes
[05:13] <kostkon> tisoy, check what processes are eating your cpu
[05:14] <tisoy> is't due to my machine too old?
[05:15] <tisoy> i'm running ubuntu unity 13
[05:19] <pleasehelpmeugh> Please help me ugh!!!
[05:20] <anunakki> pleasehelpmeugh, with what?
[05:21] <pleasehelpmeugh> Throughout Ubuntu 13.10 and 14.04, progress bars do not move whatsoever.
[05:21] <pleasehelpmeugh> And it's really annoying.
[05:22] <tisoy> YAWA KA..piste ,limbarok
[05:25] <pleasehelpmeugh> Example: http://i.imgur.com/GWPzL7V.png
[05:25] <pleasehelpmeugh> It stays at 0, and after forever it jumps to Applying Changes
[05:31] <hillary> what command do i use to remove completely eclipse installed  in /opt. I want to install a new eclipse
[05:34] <hillary> Am using ubuntu 12.04
[05:48] <ddf5> anyone using ubuntu?
[05:48] <owen1> me
[05:48] <ddf5> kali?
[05:49] <ddf5> http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/03/three-mozilla-board-members-including-two-former-ceos-step-down/
[05:50] <Beldar> !ot|ddf5
[05:51] <ddf5> isnt ubuntu was based on mozilla?
[05:51] <bazhang> ddf5, on debian
[05:51] <medhu> .
[05:52] <bazhang> ddf5, if you dont have any support questions, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:52] <ddf5> sont you mean #defocus ?
[05:52] <rww> ddf5: fyi, there's also #kali-linux for Kali :)
[05:52] <rww> ddf5: either works
[05:53] <ddf5> splendid
[06:04] <Affy> Hey all, I remember being able to route my speaker output to my mic through skype. What tool did I use? it was some kind of mixer thing...
[06:05] <owen1> how to run a few comands after x-server starts? 'xrdb ~/.Xresources' and 'xset r rate 200 60' (btw, I use i3 without gnome)
[06:07] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Affy: was that a mic you used and were you the speaker?
[06:09] <Affy> KyouReeUs4nfo, let me rephrase that.. basically I just want skype to pick up my voice (from my actualy microphone) as well as the audio from another application.
[06:10] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Affy: got it
[06:19] <mihail> russian channel were?
[06:19] <mihail> hello =)
[06:19] <bazhang> #ubuntu-ru
[06:20] <mihail> thanks
[06:23] <friendly-ghost> Hey guys. How are you all doing?
[06:23] <friendly-ghost> I need some help. :)
[06:24] <friendly-ghost> I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu Gnome, and it says "Executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed.
[06:24] <friendly-ghost> This is a fatal error.
[06:25] <friendly-ghost> Anyone there?
[06:25] <JimmyRustles> Yes
[06:25] <friendly-ghost> Yay~
[06:25] <logy> hi guys, just for info, what is actually new in ubuntu 14.04 ?
[06:26] <JimmyRustles> have you read this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/143678/i-receive-the-error-grub-install-dev-sda-failed-while-attempting-to-install-u
[06:26] <JimmyRustles> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/03/7-ubuntu-14-04-lts-improvements-youll-love
[06:27] <friendly-ghost> Yep. I read that. :)
[06:27] <friendly-ghost> I tried to do a
[06:27] <friendly-ghost> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/home/ubuntu/temp /dev/sda
[06:27] <Beldar> friendly-ghost, This a dualboot?
[06:27] <anshulk> Hello everyone!
[06:27] <friendly-ghost> ubuntu-gnome@ubuntu-gnome:~$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/home/ubuntu/temp /dev/sdb
[06:27] <friendly-ghost> Installing for i386-pc platform.
[06:27] <friendly-ghost> grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'.
[06:28] <friendly-ghost> ubuntu-gnome@ubuntu-gnome:~$
[06:28] <anshulk> I installed MATE along side Unity
[06:28] <anshulk> but when I try to set wallpaper on Unity
[06:28] <friendly-ghost> Not a dualboot, just Ubuntu :)
[06:28] <anshulk> I'm unable to
[06:28] <anshulk> It takes the MATE wallpaper instead !
[06:29] <anshulk> How can I fux this ?
[06:29] <anshulk> *fix
[06:29] <JimmyRustles> what does "sudo fdisk -l" output?
[06:29] <Beldar> friendly-ghost, use nicks here. Are you on the live cd/usb now?
[06:29] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Affy: what happens when you unmute your system speaker, run a sound-producing application, and use mic in Skype? Can the other party hear all of it?
[06:30] <friendly-ghost> Yes, I'm running Ubuntu Trusty Gnome 64-bit (from today's image) on a USBDrive. Sorry, it has been a really long time since I useda IRC. Can you remind me how to use "nicks" or "pm" ?
[06:31] <Beldar> !trusty | friendly-ghost
[06:32] <Beldar> friendly-ghost, You can tab complete nicks, #ubuntu+1 is just the development channel.
[06:35] <friendly-ghost> Beldar: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7172619/
[06:39] <Beldar> friendly-ghost, You have a gpt partition tabke or remnants from, this should clean it for a grub load. http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/wipegpt.html
[06:39] <Beldar> table*
[06:41] <Beldar> friendly-ghost, sda has the gpt, sdb where a linux shows, what's on sda?
[06:42] <friendly-ghost> Beldar: sda is a 500 GB ext4 drive with personal data & backups.
[06:43] <sverek> is there a way to get laucher to bring all windows of samr type to front when clicking in the laucher. ie i have 5 terminals, and choosing terminal brings all to the front. like in osx
[06:43] <Beldar> friendly-ghost, I'm not sure on having two HD's one showing a gpt and the other not, How did you get there and what has run this way?
[06:44] <Beldar> friendly-ghost, sudo parted -l will show the sda partition
[06:45] <friendly-ghost> I'm not sue either, I bought this laptop with Ubuntu 13.10 preinstalled on 240 GB sdb,
[06:46] <friendly-ghost> Beldar: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7172645/
[06:49] <Beldar> friendly-ghost, I would hold off on the gpt cleaning with that link. I'm not up on getting this setup to run. However I would run the bootinfo summary from the next apps link then post it to the developers thread the second link. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[06:51] <zumba_addict> hi folks, how do I compile a 32 bit c code in ubuntu 64-bit?
[06:52] <zumba_addict> found it, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/compile-32bit-application-using-gcc-64-bit-linux.html
[06:53] <friendly-ghost> Beldar: I'm back
[06:53] <friendly-ghost> empathy got disconnected.
[06:54] <KyouReeUs4nfo> sverek: As an alternative you can use separate workspace for all 5 terminals
[06:55] <Beldar> friendly-ghost, I would hold off on the gpt cleaning with that link. I'm not up on getting this setup to run. However I would run the bootinfo summary from the next apps link then post it to the developers thread the second link. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[06:55] <sverek> KyouReeUs4nfo: preferably not, is there some other wm that works this way. havent used linux as desktop in many years
[06:56] <friendly-ghost> Beldar: So, basically I bought a laptop that has two hard drives, one for Ubuntu and another for extra space. Since I "played" with Destop envrironments, I feel in love with Gnome Shell. So since I heard that trusty is currently as stable as it can be for a development branch, I decided to give Ubuntu Gnome Trusty a go :)
[06:56] <sverek> think its an obvious default behaviour, this is imho stupid atm :P
[06:56] <friendly-ghost> Beldar: So I decided to replace Ubuntu 13.10... and that's when I encountered the problem.
[06:57] <sverek> its like 50/50 between document based app and standard unix process based
[06:58] <sverek> alt-tab is same stupid behaviour only bringing one terminal to front
[06:59] <KyouReeUs4nfo> sverek: Alt-tab applies to current workspace only
[06:59] <friendly-ghost> Beldar: So, shall I try to run that app then? :)
[06:59] <Ben64> friendly-ghost: if your problem is with 14.04, then #ubuntu+1 is the channel you should be asking in
[07:00] <sverek> KyouReeUs4nfo: i only have one workspace, i have several terminals running. i have chrome in front and then choose ternminal in alttab and only get one terminal fronted
[07:00] <friendly-ghost> Beldar: Fetched 7,303 kB in 24s (295 kB/s)
[07:00] <friendly-ghost> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/yannubuntu/boot-repair/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[07:01] <Beldar> friendly-ghost, You need to be on the #ubuntu+1 channel.
[07:01] <KyouReeUs4nfo> sverek: would be interesting to see a screenshot
[07:02] <sverek> KyouReeUs4nfo: so this shouldnt be default behaviour?
[07:03] <friendly-ghost> ok.Thank you guys for the help. :) I think we are getting there. I'll head off to ubuntu+1 as well, but if anything idea comes to mind please don't hesitate to tell me.
[07:03] <KyouReeUs4nfo> sverek: I just opened 6 terminals in one workspace and I can choose and switch as needed using Alt-tab
[07:03] <helmut_> hi
[07:04] <Karmahacker> Hi  everyone!  How could i limit number of  process for specific aplication on ubuntu.  for example i want allow only 3 firefox profille run at the same time
[07:05] <sverek> kyo yes i can do that too. but just picking terminal in alt-tab should bring ALL teminals in front, not just the last focused one
[07:05] <Evilmax> hi all
[07:05] <Evilmax> for error i performed this command
[07:05] <Evilmax> grep -l -r Webkit /home/roger/Maildir/new | xargs rm *
[07:05] <Evilmax> now my database dont works
[07:05] <Evilmax> what i have to fix?
[07:06] <sverek> say i have two terminals with vi open in them both and need to work in both of them and i have chrome open to for reference, then work is impossible to do efficiently
[07:07] <obiwandk> ?? quistion where do i go to get my hands dirty in coding on ubuntu
[07:07] <sverek> different workspaces for every app seemd like a inefficient way to handle this
[07:07] <Evilmax> please help me
[07:07] <Evilmax> what i have to fix?
[07:07] <vivivivi> ололо
[07:07] <vivivivi> vi estas bydlo kaj kaculoj
[07:07] <vivivivi> :D
[07:08] <KyouReeUs4nfo> sverek: I would resize'em
[07:08] <friendly-ghost> Esperanto! :D
[07:08] <vivivivi> jes
[07:08] <vivivivi> la lingvo internacia
[07:08] <sverek> say i have matla/terminals/chrome/pdfviwer etc as i often need to use them all interchangely would be a nightmare
[07:08] <sverek> matlab
[07:08] <z8z> vivivivi: The fail language
[07:09] <vivivivi> z8z: nope, you are
[07:09] <KyouReeUs4nfo> sverek: and use multiple monitors or one large one
[07:09] <z8z> vivivivi: lol keep studying then
[07:09] <Affy> KyouReeUs4nfo: I dno if you're still there, I had to go afk for a while. back now. I'm looking at using "pactl" from the command line but is there any better GUI tool for this? like pavucontrol but more advanced?
[07:09] <rww> Unfortunately, #ubuntu is only for English, not the language equivalent of bitcoins :(
[07:09] <vivivivi> z8z: i use esperanto more than 8 years
[07:09] <Evilmax> for error i performed this command
[07:09] <Evilmax> grep -l -r Webkit /home/roger/Maildir/new | xargs rm *
[07:09] <Evilmax> now my database dont works
[07:10] <Evilmax> what i have to fix?
[07:10] <sverek> KyouReeUs4nfo: ok. that is not an option for me :(  so i need to get another wm, ill look around for something. its a shame ecause i like the macosx laucher look
[07:10] <z8z> vivivivi: I really don't envy you :D
[07:10] <vivivivi> z8z: do, GTFO
[07:10] <vivivivi> man
[07:10] <obiwandk> gonna ask again later
[07:10] <sverek> thnx for the help
[07:10] <friendly-ghost> More than 8 years? that's awesome
[07:10] <elky> vivivivi: that's an inappropriate attitude for a support channel
[07:10] <rww> Let's stick to #ubuntu support and niceness, thanks.
[07:10] <friendly-ghost> I'm planning to create a Esperanto Club in my university
[07:11] <vivivivi> elky: lol wut
[07:11] <KyouReeUs4nfo> sverek: unfortunately I haven't seen grouping of same type of running-applications in Ubuntu myself
[07:11] <vivivivi> elky: i am an ubuntu-user also
[07:11] <z8z> elky: It's fine as long as no one got offended. And i'm not for sure :D
[07:11] <rww> !ot | z8z, vivivivi, friendly-ghost
[07:11] <vivivivi> friendly-ghost: cxu vi parolas esperanton nun?
[07:11] <sverek> KyouReeUs4nfo: well the grouping is there since all teh windows can be chosen individually in alt tab
[07:11] <z8z> lol
[07:12] <elky> it's not fine. people don't want to feel like they're going to be told to get the expletive out of this channel.
[07:12] <vivivivi> ubottu: fuck you, ho my anal moderastish punisher
[07:12] <sverek> so should be a "simple" thing to front them all as  choice in settings :P
[07:12] <vivivivi> ))
[07:12] <sverek> like in macosx
[07:12] <z8z> uberlol
[07:12] <elky> and that's why it's not ok
[07:12] <vivivivi> forfikuloj
[07:12] <friendly-ghost> vivi, don't insult people here.
[07:12] <vivivivi> okay, but he is an anal moderast, however
[07:12] <vivivivi> ((
[07:13] <KyouReeUs4nfo> sverek: I meant grouping in launcher or taskbar, where mouse-over would let you choose
[07:13] <z8z> vivivivi: You'd better to insult using esperanto so that noone can kick or ban you XD
[07:13] <sverek> well i never want to choose, i just want all :)
[07:13] <rww> z8z: Wouldn't recommend that.
[07:13] <vivivivi> z8z: do, sucxu mian kacon, se vi estas faggoto, forfikulo
[07:14] <elky> i don't need to speak esperanto for that.
[07:14] <z8z> looool :D
[07:14] <obiwandk> where do i go to start coding in ubuntu
[07:14] <KyouReeUs4nfo> sverek: so how have you been accommodating so far? :)
[07:14] <rww> Anyways, back to Ubuntu support, lawd.
[07:14] <sverek> KyouReeUs4nfo: using macosx :)
[07:15] <KyouReeUs4nfo> sverek: well, if it ain't broke...
[07:15] <sverek> was like 8-10 yrs ago i used linux for desktop last time
[07:15] <aeon-ltd> obiwandk: coding what?
[07:15] <obiwandk> aeon bug fixes easy stuff
[07:15] <Evilmax> for error i performed this command
[07:15] <Evilmax> grep -l -r Webkit /home/roger/Maildir/new | xargs rm *
[07:15] <Evilmax> what i have to fix?
[07:16] <sverek> KyouReeUs4nfo: true, but now i need to use a computer with linux for some stuff, my other computers are macs
[07:16] <sverek> :)
[07:16] <Evilmax> please help me
[07:16] <aeon-ltd> obiwandk: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[07:16] <rww> !getinvolved
[07:17] <obiwandk> aeon-ltd, thanks
[07:17] <rww> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=bitesize
[07:18] <Evilmax> please help me
[07:18] <sverek> KyouReeUs4nfo: i guess ill use multiple workspaces and reconfigure my workflow  :P
[07:19] <KyouReeUs4nfo> sverek: let us know how it goes, enjoy!
[07:21] <Evilmax> grep -l -r Webkit /home/roger/Maildir/new | xargs rm *
[07:21] <Evilmax> help!
[07:21] <Evilmax> what do that command?
[07:22] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Affy: not sure
[07:24] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Affy: does everyone need pactl? and why?
[07:24] <Evilmax> help me , please
[07:24] <operaghostkv> help you what?
[07:25] <operaghostkv> what do u need?
[07:25] <Affy> KyouReeUs4nfo, ok.. does everyone need pactl? uh, what do you mean? :P
[07:25] <Evilmax> operaghostkv
[07:25] <Evilmax> for error i performed this command
[07:25] <Evilmax> grep -l -r Webkit /home/roger/Maildir/new | xargs rm *
[07:25] <Evilmax> now mysql doesn't work and ssh too
[07:25] <Evilmax> what happens?
[07:27] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Affy: I mean I did, man pactl, it's awesome just like every other man-page, but what is it's need? I personally don't use it. or rather what do you use it for?
[07:27] <rww> Evilmax: erm, the effect of running that command would be to wipe out everything in the current directory.
[07:27] <Evilmax> the current directory was /var
[07:27] <Evilmax> how i can fix?
[07:27] <rww> Let me guess, you were running as root?
[07:27] <Evilmax> please!
[07:28] <Evilmax> yes as root
[07:28] <rww> well that was silly
[07:28] <rww> Reinstall, restore data from backups.
[07:28] <Evilmax> and how?
[07:28] <Evilmax> reainstall the whole system??
[07:28] <rww> Well yes, you just wiped half of it out.
[07:28] <Evilmax> i have to reinstall ubuntu?
[07:28] <rww> Well yes, you just wiped half of it out.
[07:32] <Evilmax> but files are here
[07:32] <Evilmax> and ssh is connected
[07:32] <rww> 07:25:53 < Evilmax> now mysql doesn't work and ssh too
[07:32] <rww> 07:32:24 < Evilmax> and ssh is connected
[07:32] <rww> wat
[07:32] <Evilmax> sure that i have to reinstall?
[07:32] <Evilmax> the current session of ssh is still connected
[07:33] <rww> oh, this is a remote session? lawd
[07:33] <rww> feel free to fish around, but if I wiped out my /var/ I'd just start over. Either way, let this be a lesson to not run commands you don't understand that involve rm as root.
[07:33] <Evilmax> yes:)
[07:34] <Evilmax> thank you for help :)
[07:34] <akiva-mobile> Does anyone here have xchat? I want to verify a bug
[07:34] <Evilmax> i can't restore because pc doesn't accept pendrive
[07:34] <Evilmax> or ftp sessions
[07:34] <bekks> Does it say "no, not that one..."?
[07:35] <bekks> OR what do you mean by "accept"?
[07:36] <Evilmax> oh no
[07:36] <Evilmax> vsftp works!
[07:36] <Evilmax> rww
[07:36] <Evilmax> please...can i pm you just a moment?
[07:37] <Evilmax> hey, it's solved!
[07:37] <Evilmax> just restart the services!
[07:37] <Evilmax> mysql, vsftp!
[07:37] <Ben64> very doubtful that its fixed
[07:38] <Evilmax> but works now!
[07:38] <Evilmax> the commannd was: root@none:/var# grep -l -r Webkit /home/roger/Maildir/new | xargs rm *
[07:38] <Evilmax> i tried to delete roger's email
[07:39] <rww> oh, rm not rm -r. hrm, might not be screwed then
[07:39] <Evilmax> and rm output was something like : "i can not remove ... because is a folder" in /var
[07:39] <Ben64> still a terrible idea to run an automatic thing with rm and a wildcard
[07:39] <rww> Ben64: indeed
[07:39] <Ben64> i don't think thats even the proper syntax for xargs...
[07:40] <Ben64> yep, deleted everything in /var
[07:40] <Evilmax> bau /var is not deleted
[07:40] <Ben64> which i guess isn't too bad...
[07:40] <Evilmax> but
[07:40] <Evilmax> all files are still in /var
[07:41] <Ben64> just  /var/run and /var/lock would be affected on my system
[07:41] <Evilmax> now i am afrai to reboot ssh
[07:41] <bekks> Why do you want to do that anyways?
[07:41] <Ben64> next time, don't run things like that, especially as root
[07:41] <Ben64> rm /home/roger/Maildir/new/* would have been way saner
[07:42] <akiva-mobile> !ping
[07:43] <Evilmax> ok...i am very happy
[07:43] <Evilmax> a lot of work lost otherwise
[07:43] <Evilmax> and all my users lost...who trust in an admin like me!
[07:43] <Evilmax> no one!
[07:43] <Evilmax> damned idiot!
[07:43] <rww> time to start making backups
[07:44] <bekks> Well, you didnt answered a single question. I dont care, actually.
[07:44] <Evilmax> i have backups rww
[07:44] <rww> doing better than some in here, then :)
[07:44] <Evilmax> last backups of 28 march
[07:44] <Evilmax> but anyway it would be a disaster
[07:45] <Evilmax> beacuse i read on web...when i finn some suggestion
[07:45] <Ben64> pay much more attention any time you're using wildcards and root
[07:45] <Evilmax> can i link that damned page?
[07:45] <bekks> Can you please NOT use enter every few words, but write FULL sentences?
[07:45] <Ben64> and don't run commands that you don't know what they do
[07:45] <Evilmax> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6174383/how-to-delete-messages-from-maildir-new-with-custom-subject
[07:45] <Evilmax> read it
[07:45] <Evilmax> it suggests that command!
[07:46] <Evilmax> 1 Answer
[07:46] <operaghostkv> i nerver trust my admin.and i never trust my users
[07:46] <Ben64> if you notice, you typed it wrong Evilmax
[07:46] <rww> Evilmax: no it doesn't. you stuck a * at the end
[07:47] <Evilmax> ah yes
[07:48] <Evilmax> anyway...my commands tried to delete all files in the current directory? well...current directory was /var and fortunately it doesn't contain any file
[07:48] <Evilmax> really?
[07:48] <Evilmax> am i right?
[07:48] <Evilmax> sorry my bad english
[07:48] <Evilmax> am i right?
[07:49] <rww> Evilmax: sounds about right
[07:49] <Evilmax> and so? why daemons didn't work? it was necessary to restart them
[07:49] <Evilmax> why?
[07:49] <fallout301> and so? why daemons didn't work? it was necessary to restart them
[07:49] <fallout301> why?
[07:50] <Evilmax> i have to understand
[07:50] <fallout301> i have to understand
[07:50] <Ben64> fallout301: stop that.
[07:50] <fallout301> fallout301
[07:50] <Ben64> !ops
[07:50] <fallout301> !ops
[07:50] <fallout301> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, rww, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!
[07:50] <rww> fun times
[07:50] <fallout301> fun times
[07:50] <Ben64> oh yeah, you're here rww
[07:50] <bazhang>  /quit
[07:51] <rww> lol bazhang
[07:51] <owen1> how to run a few comands after x-server starts? 'xrdb ~/.Xresources' and 'xset r rate 200 60' (btw, I use i3 without gnome)
[07:51] <bazhang> :)
[07:51] <rww> .
[07:51] <Evilmax> what is the daemon that mount a device? so i can restart it too
[07:52] <Fallout301> sorry about that, me and a friend were trying out a program in a game, and it apparently spammed in here >.<
[07:53] <elky> your game was copying text from here and pasting it back in here?
[07:53]  * rww shrugs
[07:53] <rww> all sorted now so yay
[07:53] <Evilmax> rww: what is tha deamon that mount devices?
[07:53] <Fallout301> well, its minecraft, and we're using a mod we never used before messing with code we find to learn it, and apparently it was doing that, yea, sorry
[07:54] <rww> Evilmax: no idea
[07:54] <Evilmax> ok
[07:56] <jasabella> netstat -a
[07:57] <jasabella> er wrong window:)
[08:02] <josvuk> should someone install lsb-core?
[08:02] <josvuk> why it isn't installed per default?
[08:04] <ikonia> josvuk: do you need the components of it ?
[08:06] <jasabella> hi
[08:08] <josvuk> ikonia, hm not at the time but if i want to have googleearth it neds it
[08:08] <ikonia> josvuk: so if you need it install it.....
[08:08] <KyouReeUs4nfo> owen1: try #i3
[08:09] <josvuk> o.k
[08:10] <josvuk> hm how to force sync of the systemtime with the timeserver?
[08:10] <indnd> hi
[08:10] <josvuk> my date and time is wrogn albeit i set the internet time
[08:11] <josvuk> form time ^& and date settings
[08:11] <ihashacks> josvuk: for a one-time sync, "sudo ntpdate -q <some time server>"
[08:12] <josvuk> what timeserver to use in germany?
[08:13] <llutz> josvuk: ptbtime1.ptb.de
[08:13] <ikonia> whatever one you want
[08:13] <ihashacks> josvuk: actually, to be more complete "sudo service ntp stop && sudo ntpdate <some time server> && sudo service ntp start"
[08:13] <ikonia> it really doesn't matter as long as all your devices use the same one
[08:14] <ihashacks> josvuk: the time server doesn't matter because your local machine will factor in the time zone
[08:14] <ihashacks> run "grep ^server /etc/ntp.conf" to see what the defaults are from the "ntp" package
[08:15] <Evilmax> rww
[08:16] <Evilmax> that command maybe deletes /var/run annd /var/lock
[08:16] <ikonia> why is that bad ?
[08:16] <ikonia> it's transient data
[08:17] <Evilmax> ikonia you are answering to me?
[08:17] <ikonia> sort of, I'm asking a question
[08:17] <ikonia> why would it be bad for you to remove lock and run, they are just transient data that's generated at boot/service start
[08:18] <Evilmax> so you are sayng that removing those folders...it is not a disaster?
[08:18] <Evilmax> sayng*
[08:18] <ikonia> it's not a problem at all
[08:18] <Evilmax> saying*
[08:18] <Evilmax> better :)
[08:18] <ikonia> the worst thing is the services will do an unclean shutdown due to lack of lock/pid files
[08:18] <Evilmax> surely a reboot will fix all. right?
[08:19] <ikonia> as long as the directories are there to be written too on next start up, all will be fine
[08:19] <Evilmax> ok
[08:19] <owen1> KyouReeUs4nfo: will do. thanks
[08:21] <KyouReeUs4nfo> akiva-mobile: what version of Xchat were you targeting for bug testing?
[08:21] <akiva-mobile> KyouReeUs4nfo, sec
[08:21] <akiva-mobile> 2.8.8
[08:21] <akiva-mobile> KyouReeUs4nfo, do you have the hud?
[08:21] <stephans> (ubuntu 13.10 default config) all apple devices show up in nautilus, but not a single ubuntu device (even if they have services enabled on the network like SSH).
[08:22] <stephans> Nautilus network browsing that is.
[08:22] <KyouReeUs4nfo> akiva-mobile: I would use virtualbox to test it on my own system if I were you.
[08:22] <akiva-mobile> I actually have a few bugs with the xchat ui, but I think that has more todo with the compiz layer.
[08:22] <akiva-mobile> KyouReeUs4nfo, too much work. I am not an xchat developer
[08:22] <stephans> how do I make all the ubuntu machines show in nautilus network browsing?
[08:23] <ikonia> stephans: ssh is not a network broadcast service
[08:23] <stephans> ikonia, the macs broadcast that service...
[08:23] <ikonia> the macs broadcast ssh....?? I think not
[08:23] <KyouReeUs4nfo> akiva-mobile: can you pm me bug details?
[08:24] <josvuk> ihashacks, there is no ntp.conf
[08:24] <stephans> ikonia: there is an entry in nautilus for each broadcasted service... SSH AFS and SMB
[08:24] <ikonia> stephans: ssh is not a broadcast service
[08:24] <stephans> ikonia, what does that mean?
[08:25] <narekb> Greetings folks, anyone here upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 successfully?
[08:25] <ikonia> stephans: exactly what I've just said
[08:25] <josvuk> hi strange behaviour i don't have capital i
[08:25] <ikonia> narekb: many people in #ubuntu+1 channel have
[08:25] <narekb> ikonia, thanks
[08:25] <ikonia> narekb: #ubuntu+1 is the 14.04 chat channel
[08:25] <narekb> ahhh I see
[08:25] <stephans> ikonia, ok, but the MAC machienes are anouncing this service on the network... but not ubuntu...
[08:25] <stephans> how do I make ubuntu announce the service?
[08:25] <ikonia> stephans: they are not announcing anything to do with ssh on the network
[08:26] <josvuk> when pressing shift i nothing prints but pressing i print i and shift works for all other words as expectet
[08:26] <josvuk> what can this be
[08:26] <stephans> ikonia, the why do they show up nautilus?
[08:26] <ihashacks> ssh is not a broadcasting service, but Avahi is and that can broadcast anything providing it is configured to advertise it
[08:26] <indnd> So im looking to buy a new laptop, how does this look? www.flipkart.com/lenovo-essential-g510-59-398343-laptop-4th-gen-ci5-4gb-500gb-dos/p/itmdp26exhgyducx?q=Lenovo+Essential+G510+%2859-398343%29+Laptop+%284th+Gen+Ci5%2F+4GB%2F+500GB%2F+DOS%29&as=on&as-show=on&otracker=start&as-pos=p_1&pid=COMDP26ETWKZUZUG
[08:26] <ikonia> stephans: nautilus is a file browser, so I have no idea what you are talking about
[08:26] <ikonia> indnd: try ##hardware
[08:27] <indnd> ikonia: ok ty
[08:27] <stephans> ikonia, nautilus also browses network resources... including ssh (sftp)
[08:27] <tommy__> hi
[08:27] <ikonia> stephans: it will remember services you have connected to for file services
[08:27] <tommy__> how can i turn on my wifi?
[08:28] <stephans> is there a good resource for configuring avahi?
[08:28] <ikonia> stephans: it will not probe the network, and as ssh is not a broadcast service, you need to think about if you have conneceted to these services before
[08:28] <ikonia> stephans: I don't know how the / where the connection caching data is stored though without looking
[08:28] <Guido1> hello, i have a problem with running a grunt project. I already get an error by npm install -g grunt-cli
[08:28] <stephans> ikonia, i have not connected to these before because this is a new install.. .
[08:29] <guest-O5FNXk> What is this 'Yama' that is loaded at boot?
[08:29] <stephans> ikonia, perhaps MAC OS is using avahi to announce all services on the network? Something...
[08:30] <ikonia> stephans: that is a possibility as the enable/disable of service is managed that way in mac os
[08:30] <guest-O5FNXk> stephans, What is the goal?
[08:30] <ihashacks> stephans: check out "/usr/share/doc/avahi-daemon/examples/sftp-ssh.service"
[08:30] <ikonia> stephans: but in terms of probing the connection directly - that's not happening
[08:30] <tommy__> stephans, hello i am new to ubuntu, my wifi is not turning on
[08:30] <stephans> ihashacks, ok I will
[08:30] <ikonia> tommy__: ask the channel not individuals
[08:31] <ihashacks> stephans: if you copy that to "/etc/avahi/services" and run "service avahi-daemon restart" then you will see something like "sftp-hostname" in Nautilus
, what I want is for all ubuntu machines to show up in nautilus network brownsing...
[08:31] <tommy__> stephans, sorry, how do i ask from channel?
[08:31] <guest-O5FNXk> stephans, on mac OS X?
[08:31] <stephans> telling all the other machines on the network what services they have available.
[08:31] <ikonia> just ask in the channel, eg: "I'm using ubuntu 13.04, I have an intel wireless card and I don't know how to configure it"
[08:32] <tommy__> ikonia, thanks
[08:33] <guest-O5FNXk> stephans, there are many ways to get it to show the default may be samba
, yes, all machines should show up in all the other machines... mac and ubuntu
[08:33] <Guido1> hello, i have a problem with running a grunt project. I already get an error by npm install -g grunt-cli
[08:33] <guest-O5FNXk> stephans, what is the mac using to share?
[08:34] <guest-O5FNXk> Install that on the ubuntu machines.
[08:34] <guest-O5FNXk> Ubuntu What is this 'Yama' that is loaded at boot?
[08:34] <stephans> tommy__ you may need a windows driver to use you wifi... you device may not be completely compatible with linux
, the macs sharing with SSH, SMB, and AFS
[08:35] <stephans> I like SSH (SFTP) because it is secure and has good performance...
[08:35] <guest-O5FNXk> stephans, ssh is already on ubuntu
[08:35] <guest-O5FNXk> just ssh in then
[08:36] <ihashacks> guest-O5FNXk: yes, ssh is already there but it doesn't advertise through avahi by default
, yes the client is there but you have to install the server...
[08:36] <ihashacks> guest-O5FNXk: "/usr/share/doc/avahi-daemon/examples/sftp-ssh.service"
, SMB and SSH are installed on the ubuntu server... it does however not allways how up in nautilus, but allways in mac.
[08:37] <stephans> no idea why
[08:37] <guest-O5FNXk> I should need the Mac OS X cd in that case.
[08:38] <guest-O5FNXk> The hard disk was wiped.
[08:40] <guest-O5FNXk> nautalis on what machine?
[08:40] <guest-O5FNXk> Ubuntu What is this 'Yama' that is loaded at boot?
[08:42] <guest-O5FNXk> samba uses workgroups
[08:42] <guest-O5FNXk> Ubuntu What is this 'Yama' that is loaded at boot?
[08:42] <tommy__> hi i just installed ubuntu 12.04, i have broadcom STA wireless driver, my wifi is not working
[08:43] <guest-O5FNXk> tommy__, look at dmesg
[08:43] <guest-O5FNXk> needs firmware
[08:43] <guest-O5FNXk> Ubuntu What is this 'Yama' that is loaded at boot?
[08:44] <guest-O5FNXk> tommy__, What is the goal of using wifi?
[08:44] <Les> Jusy loaded Ubuntu 14.04 and it stopped working after login, can anyone help?
[08:45] <guest-O5FNXk> Les, check the logs
[08:45] <guest-O5FNXk> Ubuntu What is this 'Yama' that is loaded at boot?
[08:45] <tommy__> so that i can connect to my wifi router
[08:45] <Les> Logs, how would I do that?
[08:45] <guest-O5FNXk> tommy__, is it a broadcom router?
[08:46] <gr33n7007h> anyone know how to compile mplayer with LIRC support?
[08:46] <guest-O5FNXk> Les, there are getting to be so many hard to explain
[08:46] <gr33n7007h> or know of a precompiled binary for linux?
[08:46] <guest-O5FNXk> Les, usually in /var/log
[08:46] <gr33n7007h> with remote compiled in
[08:46] <tommy__> no a DSL router
[08:47] <guest-O5FNXk> greeter, just get the source and read the options
[08:47] <Les> something tells me I'm out of my depth, I'm current on a different computer
[08:47] <guest-O5FNXk> gr33n7007h, , just get the source and read the options
[08:47] <guest-O5FNXk> Ubuntu What is this 'Yama' that is loaded at boot?
[08:48] <guest-O5FNXk> Les, what does it do when it stops working?
[08:48] <tommy__> how can i get my wifi hardware details
[08:48] <Les> i have the screen, the mouse moves and nothing else
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[08:49] <guest-O5FNXk> Ubuntu What is this 'Yama' that is loaded at boot?
[08:51] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> tommy_: one way is to telnet into your router
[08:51] <josvuk> ihashacks, thx now it function
[08:51] <KyouReeUs4nfo_> tommy_: the other is to look at it
[08:51] <guest-O5FNXk> Les try nomodeset in the grub menu
[08:51] <ihashacks> josvuk: you're welcome
[08:51] <Les> ok i'll give it go, thanks for your help
[08:55] <App> I need someone familiar to ubuntu in VM's.  I have created a cron job in order for my mysql db to backed up at 02 am every night. When I woke up this morning, my /dev/vda1 was 100% full. I have checked var/log and it doesn't take up any significant space. Can you tell me why this is happening, where the files might be located and how I can avoid this? Cheers
[08:57] <ikonia> App: what's taking up the space ?
[08:57] <ikonia> App: where are you telling it to back up to
[08:57] <ikonia> App: what is mounted on /vda1 ?
[08:57] <herpderphurr> du -sh?
[08:58] <ikonia> all core questions
[09:00] <App> ikonia: I do not know whats taking up the space. df -h says that my dev/cda1 is 100% full as i said,
[09:01] <ikonia> df is not the tool to use
[09:01] <ikonia> App: please show me how you are taking hte mysql backup
[09:01] <App> ikonia:  sudo find . -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 5|xargs du -s|sort -n lists the filesystem by file size, and the largest file, that i am allowed to access is 645160
[09:02] <ikonia> App: thats not a great test either
[09:02] <ikonia> App: please show me how you are taking the mysql backup
[09:02] <App> mysqldump -u root -h localhost -pApassWord  aDB > /var/MYSQL_BACKUP/aDB`date +%y%m%d%s`.sql
[09:02] <ikonia> App: fyi your problem has nothing to do with ubuntu in a virtual machine
[09:03] <ikonia> App: ok, so does /var/MYSQL_BACKUP/$filename exist ?
[09:03] <ikonia> App: can you pastebin the full output of "df -h" please in a pastebin
[09:03] <App> ikonia: I believe it is the cron jobs that i have are filling up the space, and that correlates to the ubuntu topic does it?
[09:04] <App> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/Y6zkAAcT
[09:04] <App> ikonia: yes it exists, but there is only half a db since mysqldump fails due to lack of space.
[09:04] <ikonia> App: ok so it's one partition nothing else
[09:04] <ikonia> App: how big is the partial file
[09:05] <App> ikonia: fyi my cronjob looks like this. 30 2 * * * bash /home/adminuser/mysql_dump.sh > /dev/null 2>&1
[09:06] <hio> why not call the ubuntu software center "appstore"?
[09:06] <App> ikonia: the db is 490kb, and the backup file results in 359 kb
[09:06] <ikonia> App: ok, so I suggest looking in each of the core directories to find out where the space is
[09:06] <ikonia> App: eg: cd /var then du -h
[09:06] <ikonia> see how much of your 19GB is taken up in /var
[09:06] <ikonia> do the same for /home
[09:06] <ikonia> work out the big "root" directories, then narrow it down
[09:07] <herpderphurr> hio: I think, and I just think, the term "app store" is trademarked.
[09:07] <hio> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/09/apple_drops_app_store_trademark_suit/
[09:08] <App> ikonia: The largest directory  is 1019 MB in /var
[09:08] <ikonia> that seems unlikley
[09:08] <ikonia> as 19GB has to be somewhere
[09:08] <herpderphurr> hio: I don't know then.
[09:08] <ikonia> check the core directoris /home /var /root /tmp
[09:09] <App> ikonia: sudo du -h | sort -n gives 1019M at the latest row
[09:10] <App> ikonia: i have no permission to use "cd root"
[09:11] <ikonia> App: check the other directories I said
[09:12] <App> no significant space in the other directories. However i noticed that du -h | sort -n does not take the unit in consideration, i.e. 200MB < 1000kB
[09:12] <llutz> App: don't use du -h  with sort
[09:12] <App> llutz: What should i use?
[09:12] <geirha> App: sudo du -mxd 2 / | sort -n
[09:13] <ikonia> App: there is space in other directories
[09:13] <ikonia> du -h is fine for just checking at a high level which is all you need at this time
[09:13] <App> geirha: What units are used here?
[09:13] <ikonia> you can even cd / and run du -h then look for big numbers or large clusters of smaller numbers
[09:13] <App> geirha: in that commando
[09:13] <llutz> App: kB
[09:14] <ikonia> App: just run the commands and find what's eating the space
[09:14] <geirha> App: the -m means mebibytes
[09:15] <App> geirha: ikonia: llutz: http://pastebin.com/ay0FXqmd
[09:15] <hio> goddamn guys, why is there a floppy disk icon in my ubuntu file manager, i keep acidentally clicking on that. so much windows
[09:17] <bekks> hio: Why do you click on it then?
[09:17] <ikonia> App: yeah, not the commands I told you to run
[09:17] <ikonia> not helping you any more
[09:17] <geirha> App: That means it's not on the filesystem mounted as /
[09:17] <hio> bekks: accidentally! its right next to "computer"
[09:17] <geirha> it's on a different filesystem
[09:18] <Radioactive_Dump> Hi there!
[09:18] <Radioactive_Dump> Damn... I forget about length of my nick... Radioactive_dump... really?
[09:19] <geirha> App: run it on the filesystem that's actually full
[09:19] <App> ikonia: Sorry, I missed some of your messages. This is du-h from /var http://pastebin.com/V8SbqpxT
[09:21] <herpderphurr> That's strange, App. Why does df -h say that /dev/vda1 has a 19G capacity, but your du command earlier showed that / was 2G?
[09:21] <ikonia> App: run it again after sudo -i
[09:21] <geirha> App: Where is the filesystem that's full? what does the df -h line say?
[09:23] <bekks> herpderphurr: du showed how much is occupied, not how big / is.
[09:23] <ikonia> there is only one partition on his system
[09:23] <ikonia> hence why he's looking in /
[09:23] <geirha> then the used space is probably taken by an unlinked file
[09:23] <ikonia> it's in one of the directories he can't read
[09:24] <ikonia> such as /var/lib/mysql or /home, or /root, etc et
[09:24] <ikonia> he's doing it as an unprivileged user
[09:24] <App> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/KTZAszeB
[09:24] <geirha> he ran the du I suggested as root, it would've caught it
[09:25] <ikonia> App: the other possibility then is that someone has not allocated the disk on the virtual disk
[09:26] <ikonia> App: that output is not complet though
[09:26] <ikonia> as you have no /usr or /home output
[09:26] <App> ikonia: Would you like them as separate pastes or in one ?
[09:27] <ikonia> App: please check what's going on there - it looks like your machine is not setup as a proper ubuntu install, eg: no /home, no /root, no /usr
[09:28] <bekks> according to the earlier http://pastebin.com/ay0FXqmd there are /root /home /usr
[09:28] <guest-0wyjWa> bazhang, ok , later
[09:30] <ikonia> bekks: then information is not being shared then as the later ones don't include it
[09:30] <ikonia> there also appears to be an "/selinux" directory which - from memory doesn't exist on ubuntu installs
[09:30] <geirha> the later ones are run in /var I think
[09:30] <ikonia> this isn't getting silly
[09:31] <ikonia> I'm not interested in this as it appears impossible to get clear / solid information
[09:31] <App> ikonia: this is all three
[09:31] <App> ikonia: https://gist.github.com/sibe7691/cbbc70db3ceb34a36bcb
[09:32] <ikonia> App: ask the others, I'm not interested
[09:32] <App> ikonia: I have my attention solely to you.
[09:32] <ikonia> then you should have just paid attention to me saying "I'm not interested, ask the others"
[09:32] <geirha> App: du doesn't see more than ~ 2GiB used. What was it df said?
[09:33] <App> geirha: /dev/vda1        19G   18G     0 100% /
[09:34] <geirha> App: Then there's probably a file on there that has been removed, but is still open
[09:34] <bekks> App: Pastebin the following: sudo du --max-depth=1 / | sort -h
[09:35] <geirha> bekks: He's already run that
[09:35] <App> bekks: https://gist.github.com/sibe7691/3273d43a5e9fb96c162e
[09:35] <bekks> And did someone look at df -i already? :)
[09:38] <geirha> I'm pretty sure one or more processes on his system has some large unlinked files open
[09:38] <red234324> I got a wifi dongle working, plugged it in, rebooted, and ubuntu automagically set it up mostly I just had to tick a few boxes, which was cool because I recall when it was a lot more difficult to do than that
[09:38] <bekks> App: Can you pastebin df -i please?
[09:39] <App> bekks: https://gist.github.com/sibe7691/238db47e351593dcbbac
[09:39] <red234324> I want to monitor the dongle, just see what is going in and out, something fairly simple to use would be best, any suggestions?
[09:40] <App> bekks: whats the difference between df -h and df -i
[09:40] <flux242> i'll be reinstalling my system completely in a couple of weeks when lts is out. What files should be saved beside /home? What comes to your mind? /etc/fstab, what else? (No, I don't want to upgrade)
[09:41] <bekks> App: -i displays inodes, -h displays human readable format.
[09:41] <bekks> App: and both can be used together.
[09:41] <App> bekks: Alright. What did that output tell you ?
[09:42] <bekks> that 15% of the available inodes are in use.
[09:43] <geirha> App: Did you try to make space by removing some log files or something?
[09:44] <geirha> App: If you remove a file (e.g. with the rm command), that space is not necessarily freed. If any process has the file open, the file will continue to exist (without a name) until no one has it open anymore
[09:45] <App> geirha: the var/log is not significantly big though
[09:45] <geirha> App: if it's removed, you won't see it in the filesystem anymore, but it may still take up space
[09:46] <geirha> that's probably the case here. Some large file has been removed, but some daemon has that file open.
[09:46] <red234324> flux242, worth trying to remember any tweaks you might have made if you got the admin account, maybe in /etc/sysctl.conf & /etc/fstab for example
[09:46] <geirha> If that's the case, a reboot will free the space
[09:46] <geirha> unless you can figure out which process it actually is
[09:47] <App> geirha: yesterday, it all looked okay with df -h, but after this nights cron job that backs up a mysql db, the space is full again. This is a Cloud VM btw.
[09:48] <flux242> red234324: yep I've changed swappiness in sysctl.conf
[09:50] <red234324> flux242, exactly, I did all the ones here for example http://ubuntuone.com/4mrpWg8P6GtxxqeYeHTn6w which aren't in /home, easy to overlook some of those admin changes, you can redo them of course but sometimes if its been a while you forget, I do at least :)
[09:52] <johannesbodannes> is ubuntu still using unity?
[09:52] <ikonia> johannesbodannes: yes,
[09:53] <johannesbodannes> is it easy or practical to switch?
[09:53] <geirha> App: Your backup script is probably doing something wrong
[09:53] <ikonia> switch what ? from what ?
[09:53] <johannesbodannes> from unity to anything else
[09:54] <ikonia> depends on you
[09:54] <johannesbodannes> oh yes? what are the dependent factors?
[09:54] <bekks> johannesbodannes: your preferences.
[09:54] <ikonia> what you like/don't like
[09:55] <johannesbodannes> oh I see. well I really just want a clean software development machine, really.
[09:55] <ikonia> johannesbodannes: why don't you try it, see if you like it
[09:55] <johannesbodannes> I have tried unity before, I wasn't able to get into it and eventually just switched out
[09:56] <ikonia> ok, so you don't like it then
[09:56] <App> geirha: 30 2 * * * bash /home/adminuser/mysql_dump.sh > /dev/null 2>&1 //Thats what my backup script looks like, so it should not fill up my space it think
[09:56] <Guest54362> which is best messaging app for smartphone; Chatsecure, textsecure, threema or cryptocat?
[09:56] <johannesbodannes> I was never able to wrap my head around the non-exhaustive menu listings particularly
[09:56] <geirha> App: No, that's the crontab line that runs your script
[09:56] <johannesbodannes> and having to know exactly what I was looking for all the time by typing it out
[09:57] <johannesbodannes> frequently there are just so many applications to use that I just forget the names and have to kind of browse over everything I have
[09:57] <johannesbodannes> I had difficulty with that in Unity
[09:57] <App> geirha: https://gist.github.com/sibe7691/13cc7d3e78c02d38e6f7 // theres my script :)
[09:58] <bekks> johannesbodannes: that sounds much like doing something without a concept :)
[09:59] <johannesbodannes> Nah not at all. But application names sometimes are horrendous
[09:59] <geirha> App: ok, doesn't remove any files there, so don't know then.
[09:59] <johannesbodannes> like, they're completely forgettable and appear to have nothing to do with their function
[10:00] <flux242> johannesbodannes: horrendous - one of 4 words in english ending with dous
[10:00] <App> geirha: Thanks anyways
[10:00] <johannesbodannes> flux242: oh yes, that's interesting i didn't know that
[10:02] <gr33n7007h> Anyone know how to change preferred applications back to none selected yet in xfce4?
[10:03] <gr33n7007h> nm, done it
[10:04] <cybrNaut> aptitude gives => "W: Did not understand pin type 0.9.0~pre1-1"
[10:04] <cybrNaut> what's wrong with pinning version 0.9.0~pre1-1?
[10:04] <bekks> cybrNaut: when doing what?
[10:07] <cybrNaut> bekks: anything I do with aptitude results in that warning.  E.g. aptitude upgrade
[10:08] <cybrNaut> i created a /etc/apt/preferences file to pin version 0.9.0~pre1-1 of a package
[10:09] <bytefire> to create a external usb hard disk for back, what should be partition type? primary or extended?
[10:09] <cybrNaut> bytefire: primary
[10:10] <bytefire> cybrNaut: thanks. what is extended for btw?
[10:10] <cybrNaut> bytefire: if you need more than 4 partitions, then you can have 3 primary and one extended, and the extended can have many partitions within
[10:11] <bytefire> cybrNaut: i see, great!
[10:11] <bytefire> cybrNaut: one more cheeky question: why does gparted ask for Free space preceding (default is 1 MiB)
[10:12] <cybrNaut> bytefire: or if you're encrypting multiple partitions, you can use one password for a whole extended partition, i think
[10:12] <cybrNaut> bytefire: not sure why it wouldn't be zero
[10:13] <bytefire> cybrNaut: okay i'll leave it as 1 and stay away from extended partition for my basic purposes :)
[10:13] <bekks> cybrNaut: well. aptitude tells you that "0.9.0~pre1-1" is an invalid version string.
[10:14] <cybrNaut> bekks: i got that string from running aptitude versions <package>
[10:15] <bekks> cybrNaut: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[10:18] <bytefire> can anyone post a link to a good tutorial about backing up ubuntu to external HD?
[10:19] <cybrNaut> bekks: that guide does not describe the syntax for the "Pin:" field
[10:19] <gr33n7007h> bytefire, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[10:20] <bytefire> gr33n7007h: thanks. that has many options. i know it sounds dumb, but im in middle of doing something else but i have to get backup working before i can continue. is there a simple way to do whole system backup?
[10:21] <bytefire> does deja dup do a whole system backup to external hd?
[10:21] <moneydouble> Hi Everyone. I'm trying to create a private cloud on a dedicated server using OpenStack and Ubuntu. Can someone point me in the right direction to do this?
[10:21] <cybrNaut> bytefire: is your external drive as large as the one you're backing up?
[10:22] <bytefire> cybrNaut: yes
[10:22] <xgeek> Hello all, i'am trying to play DOTA 2 using Steam, i use DRI_PRIME=1 when starting the game in order to use my nvidia card, the probleme is i always have a black screen (the sound works)
[10:23] <cybrNaut> bytefire: then you can simply boot a live CD (so your source drive will be unmounted), and run "dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb" for example, and it will image every bit from the source drive
[10:23] <cybrNaut> bytefire: if you do that, you of course need to get the device names right
[10:23] <Evilmax> by guys
[10:23] <Evilmax> thanks for help :)
[10:25] <bytefire> cybrNaut: that sounds simple enough. so to confirm, you mean i boot my laptop from live CD then rund that command to backup everything from my current hd to the external hd. is that right?
[10:25] <cybrNaut> bytefire: and if you get that backwards, your backup drive will overwrite the source drive.. so be sure that "of=.." refers to the backup device
[10:26] <bytefire> cybrNaut: ok
[10:27] <cybrNaut> bytefire: yes.  but after booting the live cd, and before running dd, you really need to make sure you get the right device names
[10:27] <cybrNaut> from there, it's as easy as letting dd run until it finishes
[10:28] <cybrNaut> bytefire: i should also mention that dd must run as root... so you might have to prefix dd with "sudo"
[10:28] <Guido1> i have some trubble with grunt.
[10:28] <cybrNaut> bytefire: or just do it in a root shell
[10:29] <bytefire> cybrNaut: okay
[10:29] <bytefire> cybrNaut: what is good file system for backup? ext4?
[10:30] <ikonia> bytefire: just use the default, if you're asking that question it won't matter
[10:30] <Dudytz> hi all ... I use the Ubuntu 14.04, I have a user with the default groups (adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare) and encrypted home. Everything works well, but I have error in nautilus to mount a FAT32 partition (in another disk [sdb]) and mount of usb pendrive FAT32 formatted. Can anyone helpme to identify the root cause?
[10:30] <cybrNaut> bytefire: if you use dd, it's moot.  it backs up whatever you have, bit for bit
[10:30] <ikonia> Dudytz: #ubuntu+1 is the correct channel for the pre-release distro discussion
[10:30] <cybrNaut> bytefire: your backup drive does not even need to be partitioned
[10:30] <cybrNaut> bytefire: (if you use dd to do the image)
[10:31] <bytefire> cybrNaut: okay. to restore, i guess it's the same procedure but swap the devices names in dd command, right?
[10:31] <cybrNaut> bytefire: that's right
[10:32] <cybrNaut> bytefire: or you also have the option of mounting the backup drive, and selectively copying... in case your experiment just destroys a couple files
[10:32] <bytefire> cybrNaut: if i need to do another backup later on, can i just run the same command and will it overwite previous backup?
[10:33] <cybrNaut> bytefire: yes.  the dd command is very destructive.  whatever is on the target device will be overwritten
[10:34] <cybrNaut> bytefire: for routine backups, dd is not the right tool.. you'll want something that does incremental backups for daily backups
[10:34] <bytefire> cybrNaut: will it only overwrite the number of bytes that are in source? e.g. source has 128MB and dest has 512 MB. will dd overwrite all 512?
[10:35] <cybrNaut> bytefire: in the case of routine backups, rsync is good.. and in that case, read the web page someone referred you to
[10:35] <cybrNaut> bytefire: it will only overwrite the first 128mb of the target drive
[10:35] <bytefire> cybrNaut: right.
[10:36] <cybrNaut> bytefire: dd is taking the first byte from /dev/sda and copying it to the first byte on /dev/sdb.. and so on.
[10:36] <bytefire> cybrNaut: i get it now great
[10:36] <cybrNaut> when it runs out of source data, it stops
[10:38] <cybrNaut> bytefire: there are also some devices that have no size limit.  E.g. if you run dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb, it will write all zeros to the target device.  it will never run out of zeros, but it will run out of target space
[10:38] <bytefire> cybrNaut: i see
[10:39] <bytefire> cybrNaut: im also looking at tar for backup. does it require the backup hard drive to be partitioned?
[10:39] <cybrNaut> yes, generall
[10:39] <cybrNaut> y
[10:40] <bytefire> cybrNaut: and what filesystem will be good for that?
[10:40] <cybrNaut> bytefire: one that handles large files.  ext4, for example
[10:41] <bytefire> cybrNaut: thanks, this has been very helpful!
[10:41] <cybrNaut> np
[10:43] <bekks> cybrNaut: by default, the dd blocksize is 512 bytes.
[10:44] <cybrNaut> bekks: right... i know i was oversimplying the explanation
[10:45] <cybrNaut> bytefire would have to add "bs=1" to really copying one byte at a time, i think
[10:45] <bekks> which is nonsense, basically. :)
[10:46] <cybrNaut> bekks: what do you mean nonsense?  you mean ineffecient, right?
[10:46] <bekks> Using dd for backup only make sense when taken offline - using dd online will result in inconsistent copies. And yes, bs=1 is the most inefficient usage of dd ever :)
[10:47] <cybrNaut> bekks: that's why i said he should boot a live CD... so the drives are not mounted
[10:48] <cybrNaut> although i probably should have pointed out that some live CDs will automatically mount devices
[10:48] <cybrNaut> bytefire: see ^^
[10:49] <avichal> Hey, I need some help. I'm unable to connect to git using ssh. The following error comes ssh: connect to host ssh.github.com port 443: Connection refused fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
[10:49] <cybrNaut> bytefire: if you boot a live CD/USB distro, it may mount your source drive automatically, depending on the distro.  Make sure you run umount before running dd in that case
[10:49] <bekks> avichal: 443 is a https by default, not a ssh port.
[10:50] <bekks> avichal: http+ssl != ssh
[10:50] <avichal> bekks: ok, but still the problem is there
[10:50] <bekks> avichal: Which problem? That ssh is not expected to work with http+ssl?
[10:50] <avichal> bekks: problem that I'm not able to use git from command line
[10:51] <bekks> avichal: so which command line are you actually using?
[10:52] <avichal> bekks: I'm on ubuntu and using bash
[10:52] <bekks> avichal: And we have to guess the command you are typing?
[10:52] <avichal> bekks: here is the output of ssh -vv git@ssh.github.com
[10:52] <avichal> OpenSSH_5.9p1 Debian-5ubuntu1.2, OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012
[10:52] <avichal> debug1: Reading configuration data /home/avichal/.ssh/config
[10:52] <avichal> debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[10:52] <avichal> debug1: /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 19: Applying options for *
[10:52] <avichal> debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0
[10:52] <avichal> debug1: Connecting to ssh.github.com [192.30.252.151] port 22.
[10:52] <unopaste`> avichal you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[10:52] <avichal> debug1: connect to address 192.30.252.151 port 22: Connection refused
[10:52] <avichal> ssh: connect to host ssh.github.com port 22: Connection refused
[10:52] <bekks> !pastebin | avichal
[10:53] <KyouReeUs4nfo> avichal: https://help.github.com/articles/generating-ssh-keys
[10:53] <avichal> sorry, first time
[10:54] <avichal> umm, I have the ssh keys generated and I've been pushing and doing other stuff on git for sometime now
[10:54] <avichal> suddenly it's not working
[10:54] <bekks> It never worked actually, since github is not providing ssh shell access.
[10:54] <KyouReeUs4nfo> bekks: right
[10:55] <bekks> avichal: ssh keys are used for authentication only, you dont have shell access on github, so ssh git@github.com is not supposed to work.
[10:56] <avichal> bekks: ok, but I'm not able to push also
[10:56] <avichal> but pull and cloning is working
[10:57] <bekks> avichal: Define "not working" please.
[10:57] <llutz_> avichal: if you ssh to github, it should not give "connection refused but something like "Hey blabla, You've successfully authenticated, but GitHub does not provide shell access .."
[10:57] <llutz_> avichal: after that it disconnects
[10:59] <avichal> bekks: it gives fatal error: remote end hung up unexpectedly
[11:00] <bekks> avichal: When doing what...? We will not guess the command you are using.
[11:02] <avichal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7173483/
[11:02] <avichal> bekks: that command worked before...now it's not...thanks for helping
[11:03] <bekks> avichal: so what did you change meanwhile?
[11:03] <avichal> bekks: my college lan network changed and I suspect that
[11:04] <avichal> bekks: is there a way to figure out the exact problem?
[11:04] <bekks> the lan will not change the behaviour.
[11:04] <avichal> bekks: do you know some commands that would help me debug the error?
[11:04] <operaghostkv> yes
[11:04] <operaghostkv> zip file?
[11:05] <bekks> avichal: I dont see a reason why ssh would connect to port 443 - we dont know how you configured your github access.
[11:05] <bekks> operaghostkv: ?
[11:06] <jjavaholic> have there any tablets out there that come with ubuntu preinstalled?
[11:06] <KyouReeUs4nfo> avichal: ls -l ~/.ssh/
[11:07] <llutz_> !touch | jjavaholic
[11:07] <hio> Can I revert the Ubuntu scroll bars back to normal ones?
[11:08] <avichal> bekks: here is my configuration - http://paste.ubuntu.com/7173499/
[11:09] <KyouReeUs4nfo> avichal: you don't have the authorised keys
[11:09] <KyouReeUs4nfo> avichal: ssh -T git@github.com
[11:10] <avichal> KyouReeUs4nfo: ssh: connect to host ssh.github.com port 443: Connection refused
[11:10] <Bruno_Cavalcanti> good mourning everybody
[11:11] <KyouReeUs4nfo> avichal: sudo iptables -nvL OUTPUT
[11:12] <NoSpoon42> Hi all! I downloaded blender from website and I can't launch it from docky, and from terminal, is there a way to make shortcut for dock?
[11:12] <fa7ad> how to configure apt-fast to use axel instead of aria2? very long ago it was built to use axel but now it uses aria2
[11:13] <avichal> KyouReeUs4nfo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7173517/
[11:13] <q0> I see hundreds of fake sites when I search for a pdf file of a programming book
[11:13] <q0> like pdf94862.asjdfkbooks.com etc etc
[11:13] <fa7ad> q0: try it-ebooks.info
[11:13] <q0> who's setting up these sites, that's what i'm more interested
[11:13] <q0> there are billions of them in google
[11:14] <llutz_> q0: and how is that ubuntu-related?
[11:14] <q0> because it will soon hit ubuntu when it conquers the world
[11:14] <ikonia> ok, this is nothing to do with ubuntu or this channel
[11:14] <fa7ad> q0: lets worry about the present shall we?
[11:14] <ikonia> appreciate your warning, lets move back to the channels topic please
[11:14] <operaghostkv> apt-get install blender
[11:14] <q0> k
[11:15] <avichal> KyouReeUs4nfo: output of sudo iptables -nvL OUPUT: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7173517/
[11:15] <NoSpoon42> it's old
[11:15] <operaghostkv> why download from website
[11:15] <NoSpoon42> I don't want to downgrade
[11:15] <NoSpoon42> newer version
[11:16] <operaghostkv> the newer version is better
[11:17] <operaghostkv> you should use newer version
[11:17] <operaghostkv> or
[11:20] <operaghostkv> did you download the blender as a tar ball?
[11:20] <Munster> hi
[11:21] <KyouReeUs4nfo> avichal:  It seems like mysterious networking issue but to be sure, I would retry authentication by removing id_rsa and id_rsa.pub from cd ~/.ssh/ directory
[11:21] <bytefire> not sure if this is the right forum, does someone know how to set up dhcp server on ubuntu?
[11:21] <NoSpoon42> yes
[11:21] <avichal> KyouReeUs4nfo: I'll try that and see what happens
[11:22] <avichal> KyouReeUs4nfo: mysterious because all the commands gave the right output?
[11:22] <KyouReeUs4nfo> avichal: because firewall isn't blocking outbound connections
[11:23] <llutz_> KyouReeUs4nfo: his machine isn't blocking, no info about other "firewalls" in network
[11:23] <operaghostkv> you should extract at root directory
[11:23] <KyouReeUs4nfo> avichal: and if you are only using one host to ssh to, I would remove the host file too before re-authenticating
[11:23] <operaghostkv> as root or sudo
[11:24] <KyouReeUs4nfo> llutz: ya
[11:24] <NoSpoon42> using terminal?
[11:24] <operaghostkv> and you should make apt-get ignore blender update
[11:24] <operaghostkv> yes
[11:25] <NoSpoon42> is there a howto page?
[11:27] <operaghostkv> such as cyberciti/faq/install-tarballs
[11:27] <NoSpoon42> thanks)
[11:28] <llutz_> NoSpoon42: check if there is a ppa for blender providing the version you want. better than fiddling with tar-balls
[11:28] <operaghostkv> you should google "how to install a software as a tarball
[11:29] <llutz_> and "why should i avoid to do this"
[11:29] <operaghostkv> yes. i have go say it is much better to use apt get
[11:31] <NoSpoon42> well it certainly more convenient, but there's 2.62 version(
[11:32] <NoSpoon42> and 2.70 on the website
[11:33] <operaghostkv> emm.maybr
[11:33] <operaghostkv> maybe your mirror is syncing
[11:33] <llutz_> NoSpoon42: go to launchpad, there is a blender ppa providing 2.70
[11:34] <llutz_> !ppa | NoSpoon42
[11:34] <TimoMeijer> Is there a way to find the pid of a process running in a tmux pane/session, or the pid of the pane/session itself?
[11:34] <NoSpoon42> thanks I'll look into this
[11:36] <llutz_> TimoMeijer: pgrep ?
[11:37] <cynalog> I bought new computer
[11:37] <cynalog> and setup ubuntu
[11:38] <cynalog> ubuntu machine is really charming
[11:38] <cynalog> new programming machine :)
[11:39] <cynalog_> really really but
[11:39] <TimoMeijer> llutz_: Any suggestions/tips on how to single out the process uniquely? I'm quite unfamiliar with linux still ;)
[11:40] <cynalog> ssss
[11:40] <cynalog> font is broken
[11:41] <geirha> you'll need to be more specific
[11:41] <cfhowlett> cynalog_, screen shot
[11:41] <cynalog__> dd
[11:41] <llutz_> TimoMeijer: "pidof processname" doesn't do?
[11:41] <operaghostkv> a lot off software can do that
[11:41] <cynalog__> font is broken
[11:41] <operaghostkv> google it
[11:41] <cynalog__> which font should i use to see this channel clear
[11:41] <llutz_> TimoMeijer: sorry i don't use tmux, just used to screen where this works
[11:42] <cfhowlett> cynalog_, again SCREEN SHOT
[11:42] <cynalog__> utf 8 ?
[11:42] <cynalog__> screen shot ok
[11:42] <cynalog__> no screen shot button on my new machine lol;;;;
[11:42] <cynalog__> amazing..
[11:43] <cynalog__> it's really amazing
[11:43] <TimoMeijer> llutz_: Depends on what the processname is exactly, the process is a java application, and I could have mul;tiple of them running, and could have multiple tmux sessions, so I need to uniquely identify a single one, but have no idea how to identify them :/
[11:43] <Squarepy> cynalog_, please use a screenshot application
[11:44] <cynalog__> screenaa
[11:44] <geirha> It's probably an fn combo
[11:44] <llutz_> TimoMeijer: and you cannot narrow that down using pgrep -f  something?
[11:44] <cfhowlett> cynalog_, oh, I know!  there's this thing in ubuntu called "dash" and if you type, say, "screenshot" in there ...
[11:45] <cynalog_> oh
[11:45] <cynalog_> ohohoh!
[11:45] <llutz_> TimoMeijer: i#ve  no  real idea off hand
[11:45] <TimoMeijer> llutz_: Possibly, is there any way to list processnames, so I can look at what the format is?
[11:45] <geirha> TimoMeijer: what do you need the pid for?
[11:45] <guest-KrVibl> Where is the geo ip database for ubuntu looked at?
[11:45] <guest-KrVibl> I want to see if any on channel are closeby.
[11:46] <cynalog_> yes. I was genius
[11:46] <TimoMeijer> geirha: I've got a tail monitoring the output running in an adjacent pane that I would like to stop when the process stops, so the whole window closes, instead of the pane with the process closing and the tail still going in the adjacent pane
[11:46] <cynalog_> I just fixed my font problem just right now
[11:47] <guest-KrVibl> Where is _gypsy_ at?
[11:47] <cynalog_> fixed!!!!!
[11:47] <cynalog_> it was font problem
[11:47] <cynalog_> only issue about xchat
[11:48] <guest-KrVibl> pls shiw me the database
[11:48] <cynalog_> my charming machine thinkpad is just prepared for programming and hacker lifes
[11:48] <cynalog_> it has keyboard light to
[11:49] <guest-KrVibl> I want to see face to face some from ubuntu
[11:49] <cynalog_> face to face ?
[11:49] <guest-KrVibl> cynalog_, like meetup
[11:50] <cynalog_> oh yeah
[11:50] <cfhowlett> guest-KrVibl, that information is not in xchat.  see your LOCO listings
[11:50] <cynalog_> I had been to some meeting with using it
[11:50] <geirha> TimoMeijer: in that case you could kill all process that has that log file open instead; using fuser. What does   fuser -v /path/to/that/file  output?
[11:50] <cynalog_> meetup site you know...
[11:50] <guest-KrVibl> cfhowlett, the zeitgeist locator
[11:50] <guest-KrVibl> how may one look at the locations of the machines?
[11:51] <guest-KrVibl> I want a runner to rekey all of the machines.
[11:51] <markus_> I am stuck with modifying of my rules file for my game. I want to create a debian package and all works except unpacking a file after the user installed the game. Can somebody help me with developer stuff like this?
[11:51] <cynalog_> I'm noob for java programming learning now but fun but sad about the truth noop
[11:52] <cfhowlett> !packaging|markus_,
[11:52] <cynalog_> is there ubuntu java programmer?
[11:52] <guest-KrVibl> let me know if there is a runner closeby
[11:53] <guest-KrVibl> the zeitgeist locator may show
[11:53] <cynalog_> :)()
[11:53] <TimoMeijer> geirha: That shows only the tail and java commands, with their pids, seems like it could work, thanks!
[11:53] <cynalog_> :) :( :)
[11:53] <cynalog_> ohohoh
[11:53] <guest-KrVibl> show me
[11:53] <cfhowlett> !behelpful|cynalog_,
[11:54] <cynalog_> god
[11:54] <cynalog_> good
[11:54] <cynalog_> !offtopic
[11:54] <geirha> TimoMeijer: in that case, fuser -k -TERM /path/to/that/file to actually kill them
[11:54] <cynalog_> #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:56] <TimoMeijer> geirha: I don't need to kill themthough, I can use that when the java process is started to get it's pid, and pass that to the tail --pid option to make it kill itself when the java application stops running, which should in turn kill the tmux windows as all panes will be closed
[11:56] <TimoMeijer> geirha: Of to some testing, thanks a bunch!
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[12:00] <akiva-mobile> what is the best channel for asking newbie ubuntu sdk questions?
[12:02] <k1l> akiva-mobile: ubuntu sdk meaning the ubunut touch sdk?
[12:02] <bytefire> when running: ps ax | grep dhcpd, why does it return a different pid (first column) every time?
[12:03] <cfhowlett> !sdk
[12:03] <k1l> akiva-mobile: #ubuntu-app-devel
[12:03] <k1l> bytefire: are you sure its the dhcp or is it just the search PID itself?
[12:04] <bytefire> k1l: how to ensure that?
[12:04] <k1l> please show the output into a pastebin
[12:04] <k1l> !paste | bytefire
[12:04] <bytefire> ty
[12:06] <akiva-mobile> k1l, well qtcreator with a different icon :P
[12:06] <bytefire> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7173754/
[12:07] <k1l> bytefire: look at the last column. it names the program. its grep in your case, so its the search query itself
[12:07] <llutz_> bytefire: use "pgrep dhcpd"
[12:08] <bytefire> okay, thanks
[12:08] <llutz_> bytefire: or "ps aux |grep [d]hcpd"
[12:09] <bytefire> llutz_: how is ps aux |grep [d]hcpd different from ps aux |grep dhcpd?
[12:09] <llutz_> bytefire: it won't show the grep process
[12:10] <bytefire> okkay
[12:10] <bytefire> thanks
[12:10] <k1l> bytefire: but to answer the real question: no you dont have a dhcp running
[12:11] <bytefire> k1l: yeah thanks :)
[12:12] <FallenMirror> Someone there? I have a question.
[12:12] <bytefire> k1l: im new to linux in general, and im trying to set up a dhcp server. so learning curve isa bit steep
[12:12] <ikonia> bytefire: is this on a home network ?
[12:12] <squaregoldfish> !ask | FallenMirror
[12:12] <bytefire> ikonia: yes
[12:13] <ikonia> bytefire: you're aware that most routers/wifi devices have a dhcp server built in so a.) you shouldn't need one b.) it may conflict with their dhcp servers
[12:13] <FallenMirror> Mmm... Gonna ask. Is there a good way to play window games that don't work with Wine in Ubuntu? For example, I thought in VirtualBox with Windows 7, does it reduces the  performance?
[12:13] <bytefire> ikonia: yeah, i've disconnected my ubuntu laptop from wlan and creating a dhcp separately
[12:14] <ikonia> if you've disconnected it why do you want a dhcp server ?
[12:14] <ikonia> the point of a dhcp server is to serve clients,
[12:14] <cfhowlett> FallenMirror, it will not be native performance in vbox or wine
[12:14] <ikonia> so if you are not on a lan....you won't be serving clients
[12:15] <bytefire> ikonia: create a separate lan run by the ubuntu laptop
[12:15] <ikonia> bytefire: this seems silly as any network which is able to interact with your router/wifi device can use it's dhcp server
[12:16] <bytefire> ikonia: you're right. im playing around, for learning purposes
[12:17] <yettie> join /contao.de
[12:17] <yettie> join #contao.de
[12:18] <Miron> yettie, try /join #contao.de
[12:18] <yettie> tnx miron
[12:18] <bytefire> lol Miron, funny how you knew what he was asking
[12:19] <bytefire> ikonia: do you have any experience with setting up dhcp server on ubuntu?
[12:19] <yettie> bytefire i am a keyboardlegasthenian
[12:20] <bytefire> yettie: what is keyboardlegasthenian?
[12:20] <yettie> a typo :D
[12:20] <bytefire> lol
[12:21] <yettie> but I got ubuntu up and running !
[12:21] <bytefire> well done!
[12:21] <yettie> on my old days
[12:22] <yettie> because of windows xp end of cycle
[12:22] <bytefire> yettie: have they stopped supporting xp now?
[12:23] <yettie> not yet but after 7. of april
[12:23] <yettie> now I have to look on several linux distributions
[12:24] <bytefire> yettie: okay
[12:24] <yettie> on my old computers
[12:24] <yettie> bytefire it's always a question of beeing bill gates or not or having the money or not
[12:25] <ikonia> bytefire: yes, I have experience
[12:26] <fommil> hi all. I'd like to customise what happens when I press the power button on my desktop: specifically I'd like to suspend to RAM. It looks like /etc/acpi/events might be the place to reference a script, but I'm not sure exactly what signal my button sends. How do I find out, and is there a package with pre-canned scripts in it that I can use?
[12:26] <bytefire> ikonia: i get this error when running dhcpd -t path/to/conf: interface name too long (is 20)
[12:27] <bytefire> ikonia: i can pastebin the conf file if you're interested in having a look?
[12:27] <ikonia> bytefire: I'm guessing you're trying to set the interface name in the config file, rather than as a startup option
[12:28] <ikonia> bytefire: why are you using -t ?
[12:28] <bytefire> ikonia: there are two config files: /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf and /etc/default/isc-dhcp-server
[12:29] <bytefire> -t to test the conf file
[12:29] <bytefire> i mean dhcpd.conf
[12:29] <ikonia> bytefire: one should be used to define the network, the other should be start up options
[12:29] <ikonia> bytefire: you should also see that /etc/default/isc-dhcp-server is probably a symlink
[12:29] <bytefire> ikonia: i see
[12:31] <bytefire> ikonia: i have put interface info in /etc/default/isc-dhcp-server file
[12:32] <ikonia> bytefire: how did you define the interface file
[12:34] <bytefire> ikonia: INTERFACES="wlan0"
[12:34] <yettie> do i need an antivirus program ?
[12:34] <cfhowlett> !antivirus|yettie,
[12:35] <bytefire> ikonia: i've also pastebinned the conf file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7173906/
[12:35] <ikonia> bytefire: for the moment - don't set an interface
[12:35] <ikonia> bytefire: it should only listen on the interface that has the range it's serving
[12:35] <bytefire> ikonia: you mean comment out the line INTERFACES="wlan0" ?
[12:35] <ikonia> bytefire: for the moment
[12:35] <TimoMeijer> What command would I use to find and output a number(pid) in the output of a command? I've looked at grep, but that would return the whole line
[12:35] <bytefire> ikonia, okay
[12:36] <ikonia> bytefire: why is your range screwed up
[12:36] <ikonia> bytefire: you're serving 10.5.5.0 but your servers are on 194.168.
[12:36] <bytefire> ikonia: those are dns servers, i dont know! i found them on internet
[12:36] <ikonia> bytefire: do you understand how ip subnets work ?
[12:37] <bytefire> what should i change them to?
[12:37] <yettie> comodo filesystem driver is not loaded ? what can I do, when I did what they say and it does not work ?
[12:37] <bekks> yettie: Are you trying to use Comodo Antivirus?
[12:37] <yettie> module redirfs not found ?
[12:38] <yettie> bekks yes
[12:38] <bekks> yettie: redirfs is retired, it is not developed anymore and not maintained anymore.
[12:38] <ikonia> bytefire: do you understand how ip subnets work ?
[12:38] <yettie> aha so I use the wrong filesystem ?
[12:39] <t35t0r> i've got a very simple expect script that just does a spawn ssh remotehost send "ls -l\r" but I get no output, any ideas?
[12:39] <bekks> yettie: No. Comodo Antivirus is that old, it wants to use some filesystem which is not developed anymore.
[12:39] <bekks> !antivirus | yettie
[12:40] <bytefire> ikonia: commented out interface and ran dhcps -t /path/to/dhcpd.conf
[12:41] <ikonia> bytefire: do you understand how ip subnets work ?
[12:41] <yettie> bekks so I better not use comodo, but I want to interact with windows :D when other have this system
[12:41] <bytefire> this is the error i got: /path/to/dhcpd.conf: interface name too long (is 20)
[12:41] <bekks> yettie: correct, please just read the link given.
[12:41] <ikonia> bytefire: do you understand how ip subnets work ?
[12:41] <yettie> tnx bekks
[12:41] <bytefire> ikonia: a bit..
[12:41] <ikonia> bytefire: ok, so look at your range - it's screwed up
[12:44] <bytefire> ikonia: you mean the range 10.5.5.26 10.5.5.30
[12:45] <ikonia> looks at the subnet you are offering and the name servers and routing
[12:45] <bytefire> oh so name servers and router have to be on te same subnet too??
[12:45] <bekks> nameservers dont.
[12:46] <bytefire> but i guess router should be
[12:46] <bekks> bytefire: Are these random nameservers or are these the nameserver your ISP offers?
[12:46] <rekedmir> Hey guys, is it safe for the average user to install the 14.04 final beta? Will it upgrade to the "final/official" 14.04 on the release date? I haven't upgraded since 12.04, can barely wait
[12:47] <bytefire> bekks: random
[12:47] <bekks> rekedmir: If you have to ask that question the answer is "no".
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> rekedmir  #ubuntu+1
[12:47] <cfhowlett> rekedmir, ^^^ this
[12:47] <bekks> bytefire: Then dont trust them, dont even expect them to work at all.
[12:47] <ikonia> rekedmir: wait until it's released
[12:48] <ikonia> bytefire: if you're setting up a dhcp server, the network information it offers should be right/real
[12:48] <rekedmir> Alright, thanks :)
[12:48] <bytefire> bekks: that's fine. but im getting error at even earlier stage, when i run : dhcpd -t /path/to/dhcpd.conf
[12:48] <canis> hello can anyone can help me
[12:48] <canis> how to access file from samba file sharing in ubuntu?
[12:48] <cfhowlett> !ask|canis,
[12:48] <bekks> bytefire: because, in addition, router and range are screwed up.
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> canis  start with a question
[12:48] <bekks> !samba | canis
[12:48] <bytefire> ikonia: i'm only doing it as a weekend project
[12:49] <bytefire> bekks ^^
[12:49] <ikonia> bytefire: that doesn't change the fact that the network information has to be real
[12:49] <bytefire> okay
[12:49] <Guest8622> How do I format usb drive in ubuntu?
[12:49] <bytefire> but the error is even before reaching that stage
[12:49] <dev_> hi, starting Wine before TS results in no sound to or from TS, and Wine giving output
[12:49] <ikonia> bytefire: not nessasarily
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> Guest8622  you can use gparted
[12:49] <ikonia> bytefire: what is the current ip address of your wlan card
[12:50] <Guest8622> what is gparted? is that software?
[12:50] <bekks> !gparted | Guest8622
[12:50] <dev_> actually, any program using sound first, doesn't allow another program to use it
[12:50] <bytefire> bekks: 192.168.0.10
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> Guest8622  yes, install it from the software center
[12:50] <ikonia> bytefire: then how do you expect it to offer out 10.X addresses
[12:50] <bytefire> bekks: but i've taken my ubuntu laptop offline
[12:51] <bekks> bytefire: And? Why do you use completely wron networks? :)
[12:51] <ikonia> bytefire: so ?
[12:51] <Guest8622> ok i am installing from terminal
[12:51] <ikonia> bytefire: I think you need to understand basic networking before trying to do more advanced things such as dhcp
[12:51] <Guest8622> Software center is too slow for downloading any software. what is best way to download software in ubuntu?
[12:51] <ikonia> Guest8622: software center
[12:51] <bytefire> ikonia: you're right.
[12:51] <bekks> Guest8622: software center or apt-get
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> Guest8622  sudo apt-get install [package]
[12:52] <ikonia> thats not going to be "quicker" than software center - it's the same commands
[12:52] <bytefire> ikonia: if i take my laptop offline. then create a dhcp server which offers ips in the range 10.5.5.26- 10.5.5.30 (netmask 255.255.255.224)
[12:52] <ikonia> bytefire: that's what you're already done
[12:52] <bytefire> then it should work tight?
[12:52] <cfhowlett> Guest8622, download speed is not dependent on software center or command line.  think about it.
[12:53] <ikonia> bytefire: no
[12:53] <bytefire> ikonia: right
[12:53] <ikonia> bytefire: you've already done that/that is your current setting
[12:53] <yettie> I like it
[12:54] <bekks> bytefire: Maybe you should start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address
[12:54] <bytefire> ikonia: okay, so the router is wrong. which i will change to agree with the 10.5.5.X netmask
[12:54] <ikonia> no !!!!
[12:54] <bytefire> lol
[12:54] <ikonia> it's not funny
[12:54] <bekks> bytefire: The network is wrong, the range is wrong, the router is wrong.
[12:54] <bekks> And the nameservers are wrong, too.
[12:54] <ikonia> bytefire: try to understand basic networking first
[12:54] <Guest8622> how can i create backup of software that i installed in .deb file?
[12:55] <bekks> !backup | Guest8622
[12:55] <dbseti> exit
[12:55] <dbseti> !exot
[12:55] <ikonia> dbseti: /exit
[12:55] <dbseti> thankyou
[12:55] <dbseti> question about boot
[12:56] <yettie> I like your channel roboter
[12:56] <Guest8622> I don't mean to backup whole system. I just want to keep all my installed software safe so that in future when i reformat, i can install it easily without downloading
[12:56] <bekks> Guest8622: thats called "a complete backup".
[12:56] <cfhowlett> Guest8622, so you don't want future updates - right?
[12:56] <yettie> !antivirus
[12:56] <ikonia> yettie: this is getting tedious - you've been told about antivirus approx 5 times now
[12:56] <ikonia> yettie: please either pay attention, or do your own research
[12:57] <yettie> Ikonia: yes
[12:57] <cfhowlett> !antivirus|yettie, READ
[12:57] <dbseti> when i boot up the ubuntu it show up the "mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed:no such file or directory "
[12:57] <Guest8622> I mean that last time i just backup from system setting but when i restore it, it didn't restore all the software that i have.
[12:57] <bekks> Guest8622: then you didnt take a full backup.
[12:58] <dbseti> mounting  /sys on /root/sys failed: no such file or directory
[12:58]  * yettie is doing now his own researches
[12:58] <yettie> bye and tnx
[12:58] <dbseti> mounting /proc on /root/proc failed:no such file or directory
[12:58] <bekks> dbseti: can you use a pastebin please?
[12:59] <dbseti> where?
[12:59] <dbseti> url
[12:59] <Guest8622> then how to take full backup?
[12:59] <bekks> !backup | Guest8622
[12:59] <bekks> !pastebin > dbseti
[13:00] <Guest8622> what is best software in ubuntu for photo editing?  IS there adobe photoshop for ubuntu?
[13:00] <ikonia> gimp
[13:01] <cfhowlett> Guest8622, there is no adobe photoshop for ubuntu.
[13:02] <bekks> dbseti: please keep it in this channel.
[13:02] <dbseti> http://imagebin.org/302516
[13:02] <dbseti> can any body help me
[13:02] <Guest8622> so for photo editing which software can i use?
[13:03] <cfhowlett> !gimp|Guest8622,
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> Guest8622  try Gimp
[13:05] <Guest8622> sometimes, my computer freezes what to do in that case ?
[13:05] <compdoc> Guest8622, you should test your ram, and read the SMART info from the hard drive
[13:06] <compdoc> how old is the computer?
[13:07] <Guest8622> do i need to install graphic driver in ubuntu?
[13:08] <cfhowlett> Guest8622, if you don't, it will use generic drivers.
[13:08] <dev_> hi, starting Wine before TS results in no sound to or from TS, and Wine giving output
[13:08] <dev_> actually, any program using sound first, doesn't allow another program to use it
[13:08] <dev_> well, any program using Pulse/ALSA
[13:08] <rajw93> could I prevent "middle-click pastes" while using  certain applications in ubuntu(like netbeans) ?
[13:11] <sandman13> i don't see the option to choose Ubuntu on my laptop
[13:12] <bekks> sandman13: Where dont you see such an option?
[13:12] <cfhowlett> !details|sandman13,
[13:13] <sandman13> okay i have a HP's laptop with UEFI enabled, i installed ubuntu on it but can't see the option to choose from
[13:14] <sandman13> on GRUB menu, I don't get grub menu
[13:14] <bekks> sandman13: where do you look at, please be precise.
[13:15] <bekks> sandman13: where did you install grub to?
[13:17] <sandman13> bekks: do i have to install grub? i made three partitions: one for / one for swap and one for /home
[13:17] <bekks> sandman13: during installation, you where asked to install grub. where did you install it to?
[13:17] <sandman13> it asked nothing
[13:18] <bekks> are you sure you installed ubuntu at all? :)
[13:20] <sandman13> yes
[13:20] <cfhowlett> !grub2
[13:21] <cfhowlett> sandman13, see the restoregrub option
[13:21] <Eit8> I can't get my android device to show on adb on my ubuntu desktop, everything is fine on my arch laptop. On ubuntu the devices list is just empty
[13:22] <sandman13> bekks: the laptop is of HP, to choose ubuntu i have to go to bios -> startup -> ubuntu then only grub appears
[13:22] <sandman13> and i have to do it everytime
[13:23] <bekks> sandman13: which ubuntu did you choose for innstalling?
[13:23] <sandman13> bekks: Ubuntu 13.10 64bit
[13:31] <ben_oz> hi guys
[13:32] <cfhowlett> Eit8, 12.04?
[13:34] <Guest55668> hi all
[13:35] <senorita> hi
[13:36] <Guest55668> Sorry for bothering You, but can someone tell me haw to download form irc.rizon.net
[13:36] <Guest55668> in irrsi there is not <!list>
[13:36] <senorita> i com form thailand
[13:36] <ikonia> not something this channel is here for Guest55668
[13:36] <cfhowlett> !thailand|senorita,!
[13:36] <cfhowlett> !thai
[13:36] <DaRkLioN2000> ciao
[13:36] <senorita> yes
[13:36] <DaRkLioN2000> !list
[13:36] <cfhowlett> senorita, what is your ubuntu question
[13:37] <senorita> no
[13:37] <Guest55668> Yes I know there is no warez here
[13:37] <Guest55668> just aski for help
[13:37] <ikonia> Guest55668: yes, and we don't support other IRC networks
[13:37] <cfhowlett> Guest55668, what is your ubuntu question?
[13:37] <ikonia> Guest55668: we support ubuntu here only
[13:38] <senorita> I am not good at English
[13:38] <Guest55668> Sorry for botherin
[13:39] <Guest55668> ok, thanks for help
[13:39] <senorita> Where you are
[13:39] <Guest55668> Bye for all
[13:39] <senorita> bye
[13:39] <cfhowlett> senorita, this is not a social channel.
[13:40] <senorita> ok
[13:40] <senorita> bye
[13:42] <senorita> ubuntu version is most likely
[13:45] <njbair> After a sudden power loss I've got some strange issues with 13.10. No sound, no audio notification icon, and I apparently can't shutdown/reboot from the menu (have to open a terminal and sudo reboot). Could something have gotten messed up, permissions-wise?
[13:46] <cfhowlett> njbair, depends.  power surge?  power loss during installation?  a hard shutdown should not be causing such issues.
[13:47] <njbair> cfhowlett: prob. not a surge, because I can get audio to partially work in some apps after alsamixer --force-reload
[13:47] <njbair> cfhowlett: outage may be unrelated, but I have to think the other symptoms are somehow related to the same root issue
[13:52] <jon1> 0/
[13:53] <KyouReeUs4nfo> I don't have this issue now but I have experienced it a few times! When Ubuntu 12.04/13.10 boots, right when you see the splash screen, if I press ESC a few times, when login screen shows, my mouse/mousepad/touchpad  hangs i.e I am left with only one option and that is use keyboard, so I login and do sudo reboot in terminal and not interrupt boot-up process at all. Any pointers, why it would have happened ?
[13:55] <cfhowlett> KyouReeUs4 you're interrupting boot, so of course bad things happen.
[13:57] <KyouReeUs4nfo> cfhowlett: Yeah, my best guess is the drivers didn't load but why mouse only. And you are right.
[13:57] <sruz25> anyone here who could help with fonts in BURG boot loader?
[13:57] <sruz25> I'm making custom themes, but there isn't anything about which fonts I can use..
[13:58] <sruz25> there's some info on ubuntu wiki, there's nothing abut fonts though
[13:58] <cfhowlett> sruz25, see burg for support with burg
[13:58] <sruz25> is there some channel for it?
[13:58] <cfhowlett> sruz25, no idea ...
[13:59] <sruz25> where am I supposed to "see burg" than?
[13:59] <cfhowlett> sruz25, google: burg
[13:59] <sruz25> the project and forums are more or less dead, only useful info is on ubu wiki, but no font help...
[14:00] <cfhowlett> sruz25, it's not an ubuntu project
[14:01] <njbair> hmm I've also got PolicyKit error when I try to install from Ubuntu Software Center...could this whole thing go back to PAM?
[14:01] <sruz25> I know, there's isn't any place, offically dedicated to burg, so I came here
[14:01] <sruz25> I'll keep looking elsewhere, if nobody knows...
[14:03] <BS_Harou> hi
[14:03] <BS_Harou> i'm isntalling ubuntu 13.10 from usbstick
[14:03] <BS_Harou> and I've got this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2190332
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> sruz25  look at it this way: after you found how to do it, *you* are the expert
[14:04] <BS_Harou> the guy who created this thread solved it by using some minimal installaition ... is there a way to fix it during the install?
[14:04] <cfhowlett> sruz25, closest thing to "support" is https://code.google.com/p/burg/     there is a contact email FWIW
[14:04] <sruz25> I just realised, .pf2 file "explorer" could help too
[14:05] <sruz25> or something that can tell me which font variants are in that file...
[14:06] <BS_Harou> anyone?
[14:07] <KyouReeUs4nfo> sruz25: https://code.google.com/p/burg/wiki/ThemeCustomization
[14:10] <cfhowlett> BS_Harou, I see it.  did you get wifi during live session?
[14:11] <guest-KrVibl> Does ubuntu come with java?
[14:11] <cfhowlett> !java|guest-KrVibl,
[14:11] <BS_Harou> cfhowlett: nope
[14:12] <BS_Harou> cfhowlett: found the problem ... killing "modprobe wl" :)
[14:12] <BS_Harou> cfhowlett: thanks anyway
[14:12] <cfhowlett> BS_Harou, might have to set up the wifi manually then
[14:12] <cfhowlett> BS_Harou, OK then
[14:12] <guest-KrVibl> Is it open source?
[14:12] <BS_Harou> cfhowlett: I'd expect the isntallation to continue even without wifi :P
[14:13] <cfhowlett> BS_Harou, seems it detected your wifi (apparently broadcom) and attempted configuration.
[14:14] <BS_Harou> cfhowlett: after 20 mins it should probably realize the configuration doesn't work :D
[14:15] <BS_Harou> cfhowlett: I guess I expect too much from computers..
[14:15] <cfhowlett> BS_Harou, nah, it's awaiting operator input - that would be you.
[14:18] <bytefire> ikonia: there?
[14:19] <BS_Harou> cfhowlett: funny, after installation and reboot to the installed ubuntu wifi works just fine :) .... now lets get rid of all purple colors...
[14:19] <bytefire> bekks, ikonia: the problem was with the command dhcpd -t /path/to/config/file. dhcpd was expection an interface name rather than path to confid file
[14:21] <cfhowlett> BS_Harou, thinking about it further; older machine and I assume minimal RAM?  perhaps lubuntu or xubuntu  instead
[14:22] <Ben1234> Hi,
[14:22] <Ben1234> Is security.ubuntu.com down?
[14:22] <cfhowlett> Ben1234, nope
[14:23] <Ben1234> that's strange
[14:23] <Ben1234> well thanks
[14:23] <cfhowlett> Ben1234, http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[14:23] <Ben1234> I checked http://isitdownrightnow.com and it said it was
[14:24] <Ben1234> nvm
[14:24] <Ben1234> works now
[14:24] <gabmus> sup, pretty great day today, i've seen a conference by richard stallman
[14:24] <rajw93> could I prevent "middle-click pastes" while using  certain applications in ubuntu ?
[14:24] <gabmus> is there like an ubuntu offtopic channel where we can talk of this?
[14:25] <cfhowlett> !ot|gabmus, and thank you for asking
[14:25] <gabmus> np see you there
[14:26] <ben123> I get this error when I try to install wine http://pastebin.com/Ps4DGRF1
[14:27] <guest-KrVibl> gcc: error trying to exec 'ecj1': execvp: No such file or directory
[14:27] <ben123> the software center tells me to check my internet connection when i install wine. should i try to restart? http://gyazo.com/3942e45d31373cb41a04abc59ba71cb0
[14:28] <guest-KrVibl> What is the problem that gcc doesn't compile a basic java program?
[14:29] <shubhamjain> What is the significance of LTS versions of ubuntu? I means intutively, LTS seems to imply stability.
[14:29] <cfhowlett> shubhamjain, indeed.
[14:30] <shubhamjain> mean*
[14:30] <cfhowlett> shubhamjain, it also means you don't get the latest, greatest, shiniest stuff ...
[14:31] <shubhamjain> cfhowlett, I started using ubuntu from 13.04. did the 12.04 version did'nt have Unity?
[14:32] <cfhowlett> shubhamjain, I don't remember.  I'm on LTS ubuntustudio, so I"ve never booted unity.
[14:33] <DJones> shuduo: Yes, 12.04 had unity
[14:34] <DJones> shuduo: Sorry, was meant for sughamjain who quit
[14:35] <KyouReeUs4nfo> sruz25: You probably already looked at this but here goes, this may help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/11846/changing-the-default-grub-font
[14:35] <testing123_> what a good wifi manger for kde
[14:36] <flux242> networkmanager is a good wifi manager
[14:36] <Yud_Zroc> so is there a way to remotly connect to an ubuntu server from a windows client (Example user A is running windows 7, the server being ubuntu server 12.04)
[14:36] <cfhowlett> !server\Yud_Zroc, ask in the server channel
[14:36] <flux242> sure
[14:37] <ikonia> ssh, X11, ftp, many ways
[14:37] <cfhowlett> !server|Yud_Zroc, ask in the server channel
[14:37] <Yud_Zroc> ok ill give that a try, thankyou
[14:41] <Guest32840> IS there any software to backup only installed software in ubuntu?
[14:41] <cfhowlett> !backup\Guest32840,
[14:41] <ikonia> Guest32840: it doens't work like tht
[14:42] <cfhowlett> !backup\Guest32840,
[14:42] <ikonia> Guest32840: you asked this earlier and it was explained to you 2 times
[14:42] <cfhowlett> !backup|Guest32840,
[14:44] <testing123_> flux242: How do I get It?
[14:50] <guest-KrVibl> gcc: error trying to exec 'ecj1': execvp: No such file or directory
[14:50] <guest-KrVibl> What is the problem?
[14:52] <Guest55668> hi all
[14:52] <Guest66459> i just deleted the www folder in ubuntu 12.04. thinking that it would be come back once i install apache.but on installing apache nothing is happening.plz help
[14:53] <seednode> Well, you could make it again
[14:53] <Guest55668> which card is better for 14.04 LTS: intel gma 950 or ATI X1300 pro
[14:53] <Guest55668> 10x in advise
[14:54] <cfhowlett> Guest55668, ask in the #ubuntu+1 channel
[14:54] <cfhowlett> !trusty
[14:54] <Guest55668> ok
[14:54] <Guest66459> nick/star
[14:55] <Guest55668> thank you
[14:55] <Guest55668> bue
[14:55] <OerHeks> Guest55668, that X1300 is not supported by the ATI driver, and gma950 is also not supported by intel, bad luck
[14:55] <Guest66459> tell me first how do i change my nickname is it not /nick nickname
[14:55] <cfhowlett> !nick|Guest66459,
[14:55] <Guest66459> !nick|star
[14:56] <Guest66574> Hey guys, does anybody know how to fully wipe a hard drive, so that it's in the same state as a brand new one? I seem to have really screwed up with attemtping UEFI dual boot and now even a single Win7 installation is screwed.
[14:56] <guest-KrVibl> What is the problem ?
[14:56] <starhunter> ubottu..thanks
[14:56] <cfhowlett> Guest66574, fully wipe shouldn't be required.  just reinstall your OS
[14:56] <starhunter> ok
[14:56] <peyam> Hi, anybody knows how I can paste a kod into putty. I already tried right klick mouse, shift+Insert
[14:56] <guest-KrVibl> gcc: error trying to exec 'ecj1': execvp: No such file or directory
[14:57] <OerHeks> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX # where sdX is your sda/sdb/sdc whatever number
[14:57] <starhunter> ok so i deleted the www folder in ubuntu 12.04 thinking that it would install back once apache is reinstalled .but its not happening so.wat should i do
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> peyam  ctrl-v maybe
[14:58] <zeb_> hi, someone completely over my install :(
[14:58] <zeb_> took over
[14:58] <Lex2> cfhowlett: not working. when trying to dual-boot Ubuntu it shows no existing Win7 system
[14:58] <zeb_> anyone want to help via PM?
[14:58] <Lex2> and even using the Win7 install cd to fix the boot, it detects no Win7 install
[15:00] <cfhowlett> Lex2, you have an GPT or EFI partition table?
[15:00] <Lex2> cfhowlett: both
[15:00] <starhunter> folks help me with the deleted www folder.any1???
[15:00] <peyam> MonkeyDust, it doesnt work
[15:01] <guest-KrVibl> give the fags some pills
[15:01] <cfhowlett> Lex2, that'll do it.  someone knows more than I do, but installing on gpt / efi is always a bit different
[15:01] <guest-KrVibl> SHOCK TREATMENTS
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> peyam  can you paste it into gedit? so you know it's on the clipboard
[15:01] <guest-KrVibl> HIGH VOLTAGE while oboma supports baby butchring
[15:01] <DJones> guest-KrVibl: Stop
[15:01] <cfhowlett> !ops|guest-KrVibl,
[15:02] <guest-KrVibl> why doesnt the calculator work right
[15:02] <DJones> guest-KrVibl: This is a support channel, your comments aren't welcome
[15:02] <KyouReeUs4nfo> peyam: in terminal Shift+Ctrl+V works for pasting, I wonder if it's the same for putty
[15:02] <baitgb> hi, if i'm on lubutnu and already installed chrome with a packge downloaded from google -  how do i keep the software (chrome) updated?
[15:02] <peyam> KyouReeUs4nfo, no its doent work :(
[15:02] <guest-KrVibl> gcc: error trying to exec 'ecj1': execvp: No such file or directory
[15:02] <KyouReeUs4nfo> peyam: okay
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> peyam  i guess the line wasnt even copied
[15:03] <OerHeks> starhunter, With deleting /var you have deleted essential information not only for the package management system, but also for a whole bunch of other programs.
[15:03] <peyam> MonkeyDust, it is
[15:03] <OerHeks> star
[15:03] <Skaag> any ideas why there's no get-edid binary after installing the read-edid package? :-)
[15:03] <OerHeks> starhunter, reinstall
[15:04] <guest-KrVibl> you suckers think that is the pope as if the pope would shake hands with oboma
[15:04] <starhunter> Oerheks its not working
[15:04] <KyouReeUs4nfo> peyam: per this link, it's just right click http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/faq.html#faq-cutpaste
[15:04] <cfhowlett> DJones, thanks
[15:04] <Skaag> DJones: I was just thinking, somebody's about to get the boot ;)
[15:04] <starhunter> @Oerheks its the www folder thats deleted not var
[15:04] <m1dnight> haha, you can't start your question with "hi," on askubuntu :p
[15:04] <m1dnight> just noticed
[15:05] <OerHeks> starhunter, making a new /var/www folder does not work indeed, too many dependencies and hardlinks to that folder, reinstall is quicker than solving those problems
[15:07] <starhunter> @Oerherks u saying that i reinstall LAMP right?now on installing apache its says already installed (which must be bcoz earlier installation of LAMP stopped at mysql installation).but www doesn't appear
[15:08] <Skaag> argh. get-edid is x86 only, I'm on ARM... :-\
[15:08] <OerHeks> starhunter, no, reinstall ubuntu server
[15:09] <starhunter> @Oerheks how is that related.sorry i dont have knowledge of these things .i am new to it
[15:12] <OerHeks> starhunter, the /var/www/ folder is provided by the server install ( desktop too) and deleting such important folder gives more trouble to set it back right, than reinstall. as you have no clue what you did, this is the fastest way. backup your data and reinstall
[15:12] <starhunter> @Oerheks so u mean i reinstall the whole operating system.
[15:14] <kikimeter> hi, someone can help me to fix my sound issue on ubuntu ?
[15:14] <OerHeks> starhunter, basicly yes
[15:14] <kikimeter> I have a P8z77 motherboard
[15:15] <kikimeter> I've already heard some sound on my computer
[15:15] <starhunter> @Oerheks that's hell of a work then.is there any other alternative
[15:15] <kikimeter> but right now I can't heard any sound
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> kikimeter  in a terminal, type     alsamixer    if you see MM, go there and hit m -- use the arrow keys
[15:16] <OerHeks> starhunter, you might want to re-ask in #ubuntu-server too
[15:16] <kikimeter> alsmixer cant be open
[15:17] <starhunter> #ubuntu-server
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> kikimeter  what happesn when you try?
[15:17] <kikimeter> command not found
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> kikimeter  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[15:17] <kikimeter> 1 sec I apt-get
[15:17] <kikimeter> Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[15:18] <KyouReeUs4nfo> kikimeter: it's alsamixer with an 'a'
[15:18] <kikimeter> I'm in french, but it says that my mix can't be opent: No file or folder with type
[15:19] <chichov> what is the status on nouveau drivers for nvidia quadro laptops?
[15:19] <chichov> more precisely, I'm still having issues with the driver on my nvs4200m propelled thinkpad
[15:19] <kikimeter> alsmixer is an app ? or sound driver  ?
[15:19] <kikimeter> alsamixer*
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> kikimeter  alsAmixer, you mistyped
[15:19] <EagleScreen> how can I void the laptop to enter in suspend to RAM when laptop lid is closed? on Ubuntu Server??
[15:19] <chichov> seems like the refresh rate of the screen is much too low; the redrawing is terribly delayed
[15:21] <kikimeter> Do I have to reinstall alsamixer ?
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> kikimeter  no, it comes with the ubuntu installation
[15:22] <kikimeter> I install ubuntu with the mini.iso
[15:22] <kikimeter> and install unity after
[15:23] <kikimeter> so maybe I made a mistake
[15:23] <kikimeter> and need to reinstall alsamixer
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> kikimeter  i missed that part, then maybe yes, you have to install alsamixer
[15:23] <KyouReeUs4nfo> EagleScreen: do you intend to keep it out of sleep or suspend mode?
[15:23] <kikimeter> alsamixer is part of PulseAudio ?
[15:24] <EagleScreen> KyouReeUs4nfo: now it suspends to RAM when lid is closed, I i don't want that behaviour, I'd like it to not suspend to RAM
[15:26] <KyouReeUs4nfo> EagleScreen: Do you have power manager installed?
[15:27] <EagleScreen> KyouReeUs4nfo: which package do you mean?
[15:27] <kikimeter> Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: (none loaded).
[15:27] <kikimeter> Loading ALSA sound driver modules: (none to reload).
[15:27] <kikimeter> Sound likes I dont have any sound driver installed no ?
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> kikimeter  if you don't get an answer here, #ubuntustudio is multimedia dedicated
[15:29] <KyouReeUs4nfo> EagleScreen: For instance, in Xfce power manager (GUI based), I can control that behaviour from a drop-down menu of actions to be taken for "when laptop lid is closed"
[15:29] <cfhowlett> kikimeter, might also try #opensourcemusicans
[15:29] <KyouReeUs4nfo> EagleScreen: let me look up package name for you
[15:29] <kikimeter> thank you, but I need to try some solution and understand how sound driver works
[15:29] <volslost> will someone help me find the place to make php.ini changes? i'm on 13.10 with php-fpm and none of the changes in /etc/php5/fpm/php.ini are taking effect
[15:29] <kikimeter> before
[15:30] <Aaruni> volslost: have you tried restarting php-fpm ?
[15:30] <EagleScreen> note that this is Ubuntu Server, there isn't Xorg nor Unity nor Gnome nor XFCE here
[15:30] <volslost> Aaruni: yes, I have
[15:31] <SuperLag> Is there a config file where the "Default Applications" are configured?
[15:31] <kohna> wa
[15:31] <Aaruni> maybe you need to restart your server too, volslost ?
[15:31] <cfhowlett> !server|volslost,
[15:31] <volslost> I tried restarting as well
[15:32] <KyouReeUs4nfo> EagleScreen: okay, let me lookup CLI equivalent
[15:32] <minimec> EagleScreen: As you run a server, might just want to disable suspend/hibernate... Never did that, but the link looks promising. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/860485/comments/15
[15:33] <volslost> I just started getting a connection error after restarting FPM again.  let me chase that down for a bit.
[15:33] <Fjorgynn> hey
[15:37] <KyouReeUs4nfo> EagleScreen: laptop-mode-tools might be of some interest, not exactly what you want, still looking
[15:38] <Demon_Jester> Hey guys, if I were to use autossh what most common setup? init script? or throwing the command in rc.local?
[15:42] <xutl> what does ";" means in terminal ? as in here - git clone git://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git ~/wine-git; cd ~/wine-git
[15:44] <Demon_Jester> the ; basically says that command has ended issue the next command
[15:44] <Aaruni> ';' means that the next thing is the next statement, not the part of the same command
[15:45] <kikimeter> How to know my sound model for my asus p8z77 (http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio-Models.txt) ?
[15:45] <xutl> Aaruni: 2 commands in line ? or output of 1st as input of second also ?
[15:45] <xutl> in one* line
[15:45] <KyouReeUs4nfo> EagleScreen: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360615/ubuntu-server-13-10-now-goes-to-sleep-when-closing-laptop-lid
[15:45] <Aaruni> xutl: two commands in 1 line
[15:45] <kikimeter> I got it on my mother board manual
[15:45] <xutl> Aaruni: k, thnx
[15:46] <xutl> I have one wine question, wanna run 1 app in wine but its saying "Operating System is not adequate"
[15:47] <cfhowlett> !wine|xutl, wine support not in this channel
[15:52] <nikwen> Hi! I just wanted to update my Ubuntu 13.10 installation to 14.04 and it failed.
[15:52] <Demon_Jester> did you do suda apt-get update?
[15:52] <cfhowlett> nikwen, of course.  14.04 is not released yet
[15:52] <Demon_Jester> oh.....
[15:52] <Demon_Jester> :|
[15:53] <nikwen> I previously had the click package installed from the up to date repo on Launchpad.
[15:53] <nikwen> So the update of that package failed.
[15:54] <nikwen> In addition, upstart-app-launch is broken as well.
[15:54] <nikwen> cfhowlett: Yes, I installed the beta.
[15:54] <nikwen> Or tried to. ^^
[15:54] <nikwen> Demon_Jester: Yes, I did do sudo apt-get update
[15:54] <cfhowlett> nikwen, *beta* are not officially supported in this channel = see #ubuntu+1
[15:55] <nikwen> cfhowlett: Oh, then I'm sorry. Is anybody willing to help me though?
[15:55] <cfhowlett> nikwen, yes in #ubuntu+ 1 the official channel for in development releases.
[15:55] <nikwen> cfhowlett: Thanks. :)
[16:02] <peyam> Hi
[16:02] <peyam> anybody knows how I put files in my home server ?
[16:02] <cfhowlett> !server|peyam, ask the server channel
[16:06] <TimoMeijer> Is systemd already available for Ubunut? I'm currently in the process of defining some startup scripts, and it would be a waste of time if I have to rewrite them from Upstart to Systemd in a few weeks time
[16:06] <naftilos76> hi everyone, i have a laptop with 2 hds and would like to replace the secondary with an SSD. The secondary has ubuntu both root and home partitions and the primary has ms wins and of course boot sector. Is there a way not to re-install everything on the secondary disk?
[16:06] <Guest56930> Hi everyone
[16:07] <Guest56930> how u all doing today ?
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> Guest56930  this is the support channel, not the social chat channel
[16:08] <Guest56930> does anyone here knew a channel for CISCO
[16:08] <Guest56930> i'm new with chatting thing
[16:08] <cfhowlett> Guest56930, ask the google for cisco help channels
[16:08] <Guest56930> i did
[16:08] <Guest56930> nothing
[16:09] <Guest56930> actually I wanna a compinations of CISCO, version control.
[16:09] <cfhowlett> Guest56930, this is ubuntu, not cisco
[16:09] <m1dnight> hey guys, when I install ubuntu in dual boot with windows on 2 harddrivers (sda for win, sdb for ubuntu), where do I install the bootloader?
[16:09] <m1dnight> sdb, sdb1, or sda?
[16:10] <cfhowlett> m1dnight, sda
[16:10] <bekks> m1dnight: On the boot drive.
[16:10] <Guest56930> cfhowlett:I know...i figured u r familiar with chatting stuff,and u could help me
[16:10] <naftilos76> sda always
[16:10] <m1dnight> oh okay, thanks :)
[16:10] <m1dnight> then I did it wrong :p
[16:10] <m1dnight> maybe boot-repair will fix it, otherwise i'll reinstall
[16:10] <m1dnight> no biggie
[16:10] <naftilos76> ubuntu will set it up automatically
[16:10] <m1dnight> thanks for the help
[16:10] <m1dnight> I chose "something else" :(
[16:12] <cyford> is there a way to force a choice is ps3 bash  by an variable?
[16:12] <naftilos76> Guys, is there a way to clone both root and home partitions when replacing a hd ? The new hd will not be same with the old one (manufact, model etc)
[16:12] <naftilos76> Re-installing is a nightmare
[16:12] <cfhowlett> !clone|naftilos76,
[16:14] <mcl0vin_> good morning folks
[16:14] <naftilos76> ubottu - I will need a little bit more than that. As i said i need hd cloning as i am about to replace a hd with a ssd.
[16:15] <naftilos76> Thanks man for the hint! None is intelligent enough :-)
[16:15] <mcl0vin_> i am running 13.10 as head less, is there a way i can get to the desktop of that box from a different machine i.e windows 7
[16:15] <Aaruni> cfhowlett: does apt-clone work across releases? like from 12.04 to 14.04 ?
[16:15] <cfhowlett> naftilos76, that's NOT what you said.  you said "the new HD will not be the same with the old one"  HD.
[16:16] <cfhowlett> Aaruni, same functionality so far as I know
[16:16] <Aaruni> cfhowlett: so, create clone on 12.04, then restore on 14.04 ?
[16:16] <cisconinja> I am running 13.10 as head less, is there a way i can get to the desktop of that box from a different machine i.e windows 7
[16:16] <volslost>  does this error imply my firewall is blocking the connection: [proxy:error] [pid 3028] (111)Connection refused: AH00957: FCGI: attempt to connect to 127.0.0.1:9000 (*) failed
[16:16] <Aaruni> !patience| cisconinja
[16:17] <bekks> cisconinja: If it is headless, why do you need a desktop? :)
[16:17] <cfhowlett> Aaruni, you talking about cloning data only, right?
[16:17] <cisconinja> bekks: say i want to run dia or any other GUI
[16:17] <volslost> that was from my apache error.log, FYI
[16:17] <Aaruni> cfhowlett: you said apt-clone, right? so, I assumed it clones the installed applications, since apt be the package manager.
[16:17] <ziyourenxiang> volslost: it usually means you have no service listening on that port.
[16:18] <naftilos76> cfhowlett: Apologies if i have mistyped. As i said in my first comment, i will replace the sec hd on my laptop with a SSD and need a way to skip reinstalling everything.
[16:18] <Aaruni> reinstalling is PITA, not because you need to move your data, but because you need to get those applications back
[16:18] <cfhowlett> Aaruni, put your data in a dedicated /home
[16:18] <volslost> ziyourenxiang: thanks.  i'm using proxy_fcgi and it's failing to restart with 'Unkown Instance'
[16:18] <cfhowlett> Aaruni, that assumption is correct
[16:19] <cfhowlett> naftilos76, I'm going to bail out on this as I'm not sure a HD to SSD clone will work - different requirements/boot ups ...
[16:19] <Aaruni> so, cfhowlett, is it possible to clone applications from my current box from 12.04, to 14.04 when I upgrade?
[16:19] <Aaruni> or have to download everything again?
[16:19] <cfhowlett> Aaruni, that is my understanding
[16:20] <Aaruni> because the repos will change.
[16:20] <Demon_Jester> hey guys whats the difference using autossh and using command TCPKeepAlive & ServerAliveinterval
[16:20] <naftilos76> Well i doubt if it works myself. Hoped that there would be a way. Thanks man. I will just copy my home part and will reinstall the rest
[16:21] <balsaq> is there any benefit to running ubuntu 12.04 LTS x64 bit on a computer with 2 gb of ram?
[16:21] <cfhowlett> balsaq, I seem to recall that 4 gb is the recommended ram
[16:21] <Aaruni> balsaq: out of experience, I would advice against it. a 64 bit OS lags very much in a 2 GB VM, and I expect similar results on a physical machine
[16:22] <jacksina> ?
[16:22] <cfhowlett> balsaq, however, lubuntu or xubuntu can run quite nicley with 2 gb ...
[16:23] <ziyourenxiang> if running X-less as a server, should be fine?
[16:23] <balsaq> cfhowlett, Aaruni , i was wondering if 64 bit is not simply faster by nature regardless of the amount of ram, obviously i owuld not consider less than 2 gb...it is at that level that lubuntu or maybe xubuntu would come into play...
[16:24] <balsaq> but i find that ubuntu is nearly as fast anyway
[16:24] <balsaq> so i gave up on the small OS's
[16:24] <cfhowlett> ziyourenxiang, ask #ubuntu-server
[16:25] <cfhowlett> !ubuntukylin|ziyourenxiang, also
[16:25] <Aaruni> balsaq: I'm not sure, if 32-bit or 64-bit is faster, but my 64-bit Ubuntu takes ~1.5 GB of ram, so, 4gig is a minimum for me
[16:25] <balsaq> i think  64 bit is faster
[16:25] <ziyourenxiang> thanks.
[16:26] <bekks> balsaq: which is not true.
[16:26] <balsaq> ok ty bekks
[16:26] <bekks> Aaruni: And unused RAM is wasted RAM.
[16:26] <balsaq> always wondered
[16:26] <balsaq> 10-4
[16:26] <Aaruni> bekks: it starts swapping at around 2.5 GB, which essentially puts a halt to my system
[16:26] <Toadstool2> waddup ubuntu folks
[16:26] <TJ-> balsaq: Depending on the compiler, 64-bit builds might be faster because AMD64 CPUs have many more, wider, registers. On the other hand, the code and some data elements might take up twice as much space on storage and  in memory.
[16:27] <Toadstool2> anyone know of a good ipad manager for linux?
[16:27] <Toadstool2> i hate itunes
[16:27] <cfhowlett> Toadstool2, there is no ipad manager for linux
[16:27] <cfhowlett> !iphone
[16:27] <Toadstool2> thanks cfhowlett
[16:28] <bekks> Aaruni: Which is caused by vm.swappiness=40 which starts at about 2.5GB when having 4GB RAM. set it to 5 or 10 and you will be good to go.
[16:29] <Aaruni> bekks: mine is 20
[16:29] <Aaruni> 60 is default, I didn't dare to make it lower than 20
[16:29] <bekks> Aaruni: you can set it to even lower values without problems.
[16:29] <bekks> Just dont set it to 0.
[16:29] <Aaruni> bekks: will 5 do ?
[16:29] <bekks> Sure.
[16:29] <TimoMeijer> Is systemd already available for Ubuntu? I'm currently in the process of defining some startup scripts, and it would be a waste of time if I have to rewrite them from Upstart to Systemd in a few weeks time
[16:29] <Aaruni> ok, thanks! :)
[16:29] <bekks> Aaruni: Do you know what swappiness means?
[16:30] <Aaruni> bekks: yeah. it starts to swap only after that much %age RAM is free
[16:30] <Aaruni> i.e., when swappiness is 10, it will go to 90% ram before swapping
[16:31] <bekks> Aaruni: Yeah, it will start swapping when less than vm.swappiness RAM is free. So it is no problem to set it to fairly small values.
[16:31] <Toadstool2> aww snap
[16:32] <Toadstool2> daft punk just came on
[16:32] <m1dnight> allright, booting into xubuntu \o/
[16:33] <OerHeks> TimoMeijer, systemD is not shipped default, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd#Kernel_requirements
[16:33] <Aaruni> if there is an overheat problem in the laptop, that is it shuts off from the heat ~30 minutes into ubuntu, will Lubuntu solve anything?
[16:34] <Toadstool2> Aaruni - if your laptop is overheating its probably best to blast the inside with compressed air
[16:34] <Toadstool2> lubuntu wont make much difference
[16:34] <Aaruni> Toadstool2: I messed up the thermal paste, and got it changed a couple of times. I'm not exactly sure what the problem is, but yes, it dies on me whenever I try anything intensive.
[16:35] <TimoMeijer> OerHeks: But Ubuntu was planning to switch over to it, right? Is that document still up-to-date, and do you know of any information about when systemd will become the default?
[16:35] <Aaruni> last april, same channel. maybe someone remembers.
[16:35] <OerHeks> !lmsensors
[16:35] <Aaruni> OerHeks: fan speeds? never worked for my laptop...
[16:35] <OerHeks> TimoMeijer, yes, but not with the upcomming 14.04,
[16:36] <OerHeks> Aaruni, what brand/type laptop ?
[16:36] <Aaruni> HP pavillion G6
[16:36] <TJ-> Aaruni: If the thermal paste isn't applied properly - fix it!
[16:37] <Aaruni> TJ-: already got it fixed by the service center, after I screwed it up myself. but laptop still dies. Its a secondary laptop now, left to me for all sorts of experimenting
[16:37] <Aaruni> an old Dell inspiron
[16:37] <Toadstool2> Aaruni you probably cooked your processor lol
[16:37] <TJ-> Aaruni: The other possibility is the fan(s) aren't operating as expected due to disturbance
[16:37] <OerHeks> could be a lot of solutions, grub line acpi=vendor or something like that
[16:38] <Aaruni> Toadstool2: I think CPU is fine, but I screwed my GPU, I think. TJ- can I force them to spin at max at all times
[16:38] <Aaruni> ?
[16:38] <TJ-> Aaruni: I would always double-check what a 'service center' actually applied. Many so-called engineers aren't aware of the best way to apply thermal pastes
[16:38] <TJ-> Aaruni: Fan control can sometimes be 'automatic' in hardware
[16:38] <Aaruni> TJ-: If I open it, then won't I need to apply new stuff again?
[16:39] <Toadstool2> Aaruni get a tube of arctic silver and a plastic giftcard and re apply your thermal paste
[16:39] <Toadstool2> before you do that, make sure to clear every last bit of dust
[16:40] <TJ-> Aaruni: Something I've seen in the past that affected fan speeds was a system with a discrete temperature sensor mounted alongside the chip, which was moved enough not to be in direct contact with the casing, and therefore wasn't reading a much lower temperature. Simply bending it 1mm to make contact fixed the overheating issues.
[16:40] <Aaruni> Toadstool2: too much investment for a dead/dying laptop? also I searched, but no supply of arctic silver here.
[16:40] <Aaruni> TJ-: I think the intel CPU has an inbuilt sensor.
[16:41] <TJ-> Aaruni: No. I frequently remove heatsink assemblies from laptops. I always use a wide sharpie blade or similar to ensure the paste is fully covering the top of the CPU/GPU and a consistent thickness, before replacing.
[16:42] <scottyarwood> Can anyone help me get java working in google chrome? I followed all the instructions on here (including the stuff at the bottom about getting it to work in web browsers): https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDYQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikihow.com%2FInstall-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux&ei=Ivc2U-62NOelsAT7oYGACQ&usg=AFQjCNGfsQgVpLshX6L3b62FzqSQ1ln9sQ&sig2=Ls71F-Y8_TVoyc7ZEbpC3g&bvm=b
[16:42] <TJ-> Aaruni: Yes, but you said GPU... sometimes the trigger for the fan for the GPU is external; usually touching or integral to, a part of the heatpipe assembly.
[16:42] <OerHeks> scottyarwood, hard to do, maybe that howto could work in chromium, but chrome is closed source
[16:42] <scottyarwood> Also, I was installing 64 bit oracle JDK
[16:42] <Aaruni> TJ-: All I have is half a syringe of some thermal paste from CM, non-curing. and no supply of alcohol to clean it up either. hardware supplies suck here..
[16:43] <scottyarwood> oh
[16:43] <bekks> !java | scottyarwood
[16:43] <TJ-> Aaruni: Got any white-spirit, or nail-varnish remover?
[16:43] <Aaruni> TJ-: nope.
[16:43] <TJ-> AaronCampbell: For a full application on CPU + GPU I use about 1/2 a pea sized paste
[16:43] <Aaruni> TJ-: wrong mention ?
[16:44] <TJ-> Aaruni: yeah, silly tab completion!
[16:44] <TJ-> Aaruni: What I'm getting at is, address the real problem, don't try to work around it with software restrictions
[16:44] <scottyarwood> I installed JDK. And also, the instructions were for google chrome. I can run minecraft with it and stuff but it won't appear in my chrome plugins
[16:44] <Aaruni> TJ-: ok, thanks for the advice
[16:44] <Aaruni> :)
[16:46] <daftykins> Aaruni: hitting high temps and thinking thermal paste alone? i'd imagine there's a bad cooler contact.
[16:46] <scottyarwood> ubottu: I installed JDK just fine, I just can't get it running in chrome. The instructions aren't working
[16:47] <Toadstool2> lol
[16:47] <tenleftfingers> Anyone know how to tell if my hdd is using DMA or PIO mode? I'm trying to fix a sound issue.
[16:47] <scottyarwood> is ubottu actually a bot or am I getting messed with?
[16:48] <daftykins> scottyarwood: the JDK is the dev kit, it has no relevance to chrome. perhaps you're thinking about the runtime? (JRE) what are you trying to run in chrome?
[16:48] <Toadstool2> scottyarwood: why dont you ask it?
[16:48] <scottyarwood> ubottu: are you a bot?
[16:48] <daftykins> tenleftfingers: how'd you get from disk transfer mode to sound? :) hdparm used to show active mode on a disk
[16:48] <scottyarwood> JDK comes with JRE
[16:48] <TJ-> tenleftfingers: "grep ata /var/log/dmesg"
[16:48] <scottyarwood> and I'm trying to run java based games in chrome
[16:48] <Toadstool2> scottyarwood: why not use firefox?
[16:48] <tenleftfingers> daftykins: By buying a Dell Studio :( Thanks ;)
[16:49] <tenleftfingers> TJ-: I'll check there too - cheers.
[16:49] <scottyarwood> I tried with firefox too but I couldn't get it working there either
[16:50] <daftykins> scottyarwood: followed something like - http://technonstop.com/install-java-plugin-ubuntu-linux ?
[16:50] <daftykins> although that's 3 years old, heh
[16:50] <TJ-> scottyarwood: You need the Java-plugin
[16:50] <Toadstool2> all i had to do was: sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre
[16:50] <Toadstool2> and it works fine in firefox
[16:51] <daftykins> maybe he's using the oracle JDK
[16:51] <scottyarwood> yeah. I'm using the oracle version
[16:51] <daftykins> scottyarwood: which ubuntu version?
[16:51] <scottyarwood> 13.10
[16:52] <TJ-> Toadstool2: The plugin won't always be installed; It depends on Apt settings. "icedtea-7-plugin" is a "Suggests" of "openjdk-7-jre"
[16:52] <daftykins> scottyarwood: so i take it you googled and have tried following something like - http://www.wikihow.com/Enable-Oracle-Java-in-Your-Web-Browsers-on-Ubuntu-Linux ?
[16:53] <scottyarwood> It had instructions on https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDYQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikihow.com%2FInstall-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux&ei=Ivc2U-62NOelsAT7oYGACQ&usg=AFQjCNGfsQgVpLshX6L3b62FzqSQ1ln9sQ&sig2=Ls71F-Y8_TVoyc7ZEbpC3g&bvm=bv.63808443,d.cWc
[16:53] <scottyarwood> and I tried that then I did a google search for why isn't java loading on web browsers but I never found that
[16:53] <daftykins> that kind of a google search is too human a language
[16:54] <daftykins> follow my link now then
[16:54] <daftykins> i'm sure it'll be resolved very quickly.
[16:54] <macdabby> i have 3 machines - connected 1 to 2, and 2 to 3. i can ping from 3 to 1, but when i ping from 1 to 3 i don’t get a response. tcpdump confirms 3 gets the request, packetcapture (pfsense) on 2 says there is no response from 3, but i can ping normally from 2 to 3 … any ideas? the routing table seems normal and 3 is definitely responding to pings
[16:55] <scottyarwood> I'll try that other tutorial
[16:55] <scottyarwood> the one that you sent
[16:55] <TJ-> macdabby: Does '3' have a route to 2 and 1 ?
[16:56] <macdabby> TJ-: yes, i can can even ping from 3 to 2 and 1 and get responses
[16:56] <TJ-> macdabby: Any firewall rules on 3?
[16:56] <macdabby> TJ-: it seems like just responses aren’t getting out of that box - when they need to get back to 1
[16:57] <daftykins> run tcpdump on it and see if the response packet goes out
[16:57] <macdabby> TJ-: i have fw disabled on 2 completely - there shouldn’t be any on 3, it’s a default install
[16:57] <daftykins> install of what?
[16:57] <daftykins> (on all 3)
[16:57] <TJ-> macdabby: You'll need to show us the routing tables and iptables rules for each, for us to be much help to you
[16:57] <macdabby> ubuntu 12.04 on box 3, pfsense 2.1 on box2
[16:58] <daftykins> macdabby: is this some convoluted way of avoiding buying a switch? :D
[16:58]  * TJ- blames pfsense
[16:59] <TJ-> daftykins: Sounds like a LAN / router / DMZ configuration to me
[16:59] <macdabby> daftykins: lol no … i’m trying to build a secure network with 4 isolated subnets, but i need to be able to access all 4 from the VPN as admin
[17:00] <scottyarwood_> I'm back. I tried that java tutorial and it's still not working
[17:00] <daftykins> scottyarwood_: what _SPECIFICALLY_ did you do? also, 'not working' isn't great on the detail front.
[17:00] <macdabby> TJ-: so box 1 is 10.0.9.6, box 2 is 10.0.9.1, 10.0.8.1, and 10.0.7.1, and box 3 is 10.0.7.10
[17:00] <scottyarwood_> okay
[17:01] <TJ-> macdabby: Are all the subnets /24 ?
[17:01] <macdabby> TJ-: yes
[17:01] <OerHeks> scottyarwood_, did you perform "sudo update-alternatives --config java " ?? >>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Choosing_the_default_Java_to_use
[17:01] <TJ-> macdabby: box 3 has a route for 10.0.9.0/24 via 10.0.7.1 ?
[17:01] <macdabby> TJ-: it has a default route to 10.0.8.1
[17:02] <daftykins> OerHeks: he's dealing with a lack of browser plugins here, so that shouldn't be relevant?
[17:02] <macdabby> TJ-: no route for 10.0.9.0
[17:02] <moneycat> hi, i'm trying to install GUI on a vps, but i keep getting errors "Could not open X display" when i try to run vino-preferences or gedit
[17:02] <TJ-> macdabby: OK, pastebin the routing table from box 3 please
[17:02] <OerHeks> daftykins, he installed java, so i wonder if he did it right?
[17:02] <daftykins> moneycat: what kind of VPS? most are meant to stay CLI only.
[17:03] <scottyarwood_> I updated my alternatives to java ws
[17:03] <scottyarwood_> when I first installed java I did that
[17:03] <daftykins> OerHeks: he confirmed minecraft runs so *a* java must be ok :)
[17:03] <moneycat> daftykins, i am using bitssd on bitvps
[17:03] <TJ-> macdabby: Also, does box 2 have 3 physical interfaces for those 3 subnets?
[17:03] <moneycat> daftykins, https://www.bitvps.com/openvz/
[17:03] <scottyarwood_> when I do java -version I get this: java version "1.7.0_51" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_51-b13) Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.51-b03, mixed mode)
[17:04] <Braden`> Hello
[17:05] <daftykins> scottyarwood_: on my link did you follow step 7 for 64-bit java then? :)
[17:05] <daftykins> or step 1.
[17:05] <SaveTheRobots> hi all, i plan on running a dedicated 12.04 LTS box purely for hosting LXC containers, should i stick with the default 3.2 kernel or update to something newer using the LTS Enablement stack ?
[17:05] <daftykins> er, methods not steps.
[17:05] <Braden`> I have a script sitting in /etc/cron.daily, but it does not execute.  It is a simple script that should not have any permission issues (e.g. mysqldump --all-databases --events --quick --skip-extended-insert --compress --single-transaction --hex-blob --no-tablespaces --insert-ignore --disable-keys --user=backup --max-allowed-packet=1073741824 --create-options | bzip2 -z > /mnt/truecrypt/site-$(date
[17:05] <Braden`> +%F).sql.bz2
[17:05] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: Oracle Java, or OpenJDK?
[17:05] <daftykins> moneycat: so it's running an ubuntu huh?
[17:05] <Braden`> I cannot figure out why it never executes
[17:05] <scottyarwood_> oracle java
[17:05] <moneycat> daftykins, yeah
[17:05] <TJ-> SaveTheRobots: If you want to work with LXC I'd recommend going for 14.04 as soon as it is out, if not sooner :)
[17:06] <scottyarwood_> can you resend it? I had to restart my browser.
[17:06] <daftykins> moneycat: does that company not provide guides or info saying whether you can or can't have a GUI? i'd be likely to think you can't.
[17:06] <SaveTheRobots> TJ-: ah thanks, any particular reason why ?
[17:06] <bekks> Braden`: It doesnt work since you are not using full paths. Use a full path to mysqldump and bzip2. And even better, put stat stuff into a script, and execute the script from crontab.
[17:06] <macdabby> TJ-: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7e39fac784afb8aba65d
[17:06] <moneycat> daftykins, i asked them and they said i could. but i get x display errors everytime i try to run anything
[17:06] <TJ-> SaveTheRobots: Better user-space tools to support the latest kernel features, mostly
[17:06] <Braden`> stat stuff?
[17:06] <bekks> Braden`: Yes.
[17:06] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: what's the end goal here, since I missed everything you were asking about, before you said "I'm back."
[17:07] <bekks> Braden`: And in that script, use full paths, as well as in your crontab.
[17:07] <macdabby> TJ-: ah - i think i might see the probelm actually ....
[17:07] <scottyarwood_> to get java ws working in by web browser
[17:07] <SuperLag> OerHeks: if java -version shows the right one, I'm guessing he got it right.
[17:07] <Braden`> What is stat stuff?
[17:07] <SaveTheRobots> TJ-: ok, is upgrading to 14.04 a good idea on a production server though ?
[17:07] <macdabby> TJ-: so this particular box has 2 ips, one 2 different subnets … i can ping the address on eth0 because that’s the same iface as the default route
[17:07] <TJ-> macdabby: I'm glad you do, I was about to ask what the heck you're doing there!
[17:07] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: when you install the Oracle Java, you need to create the symlink to the plugin manually.
[17:08] <bekks> Braden`: the command you pasted into the channel...?
[17:08] <macdabby> TJ-: but i can’t ping the ip on eth1
[17:08] <macdabby> TJ-: maybe because it’s trying to route it back through eth0?
[17:08] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: so... where did you extract the Java files to?
[17:08] <TJ-> macdabby: Yup
[17:08] <scottyarwood_> I did that
[17:08] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: you did what?
[17:08] <scottyarwood_> created the symbolic link
[17:08] <daftykins> scottyarwood_: learn to bookmark: http://www.wikihow.com/Enable-Oracle-Java-in-Your-Web-Browsers-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[17:09] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: but it's not working correctly, still?
[17:09] <avis> i reinstalled my operating system and my computer does not see my internal sound card however it sees my video sound card which i cannot use
[17:09] <TJ-> SaveTheRobots: 14.04 will be available in a little less than a month... depends on how urgent your requirement is.  We're in beta freeze now, so the only changes will be major bug-fixes to the core packages
[17:09] <scottyarwood_> thank you
[17:09] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: if it's still not working, you either a. didn't create the symlink properly, or b. linked to the wrong file. :)
[17:10] <scottyarwood_> I made the symbolic link when I first installed java and it's still not working
[17:10] <SaveTheRobots> TJ-: ah excellent, thanks very much, i guess i'll update to 14.04 then :)
[17:10] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: if you go back in your command history, can you get to the line where you created the link, and paste that here?
[17:10] <macdabby> TJ-: so im thinking the best thing to do would be to add a static route for the VPN (10.0.9.0) and that will be the only IP that i can access from within the VPN
[17:10] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: better yet, use paste.ubuntu.com, and then paste the link here
[17:10] <scottyarwood_> okay
[17:11] <TJ-> SaveTheRobots: It's really only Desktop that suffers breakage in the beta period; Server is in my experience stable for a much longer period prior to release
[17:11] <daftykins> SuperLag: i think there's a 32-bit vs. 64-bit misunderstanding going on
[17:11] <SuperLag> daftykins: that would cause problems too. :)
[17:12] <scottyarwood_> I did this when I installed it http://paste.ubuntu.com/7175124/
[17:12] <SaveTheRobots> TJ-: ah ok, i'll go look through the documentation for switching to 14.04 then, but just a quick question, can i go from 12.04 to 14.04 direct or will i have to follow more incremental upgrade steps ?
[17:12] <cfhowlett> SaveTheRobots, direct upgrade LTS to LTS
[17:12] <TJ-> SaveTheRobots: Yes, 14.04 is an LTS, which is why I suggested it
[17:12] <SaveTheRobots> TJ-, cfhowlett: gracias! :)
[17:14] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: what output do you get for this command: uname -p
[17:14] <daftykins> SuperLag: he ran it for the wrong version by the looks
[17:14] <AlexPortable> When will there an ubuntu version for tablets?
[17:14] <scottyarwood_> x86_64
[17:14] <daftykins> !touch | AlexPortable
[17:14] <SuperLag> AlexPortable: they're working on it. When it's ready. ;)
[17:14] <A1Recon> hi
[17:15] <TJ-> AlexPortable: Sorry, you won't be able to use gnome 2 on it though ;p
[17:15] <SuperLag> daftykins: looks like it's the right version...
[17:15] <daftykins> SuperLag: i mean he followed the guide with the command for 1.7.0-40 but he's running -51
[17:16] <AlexPortable> TJ-: unity is ok for tablet
[17:16] <AlexPortable> just like windows 8
[17:16] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: what do you get for "ls -l /opt/google/chrome/plugins/"
[17:17] <scottyarwood_> total 0
[17:17] <scottyarwood_> that's weird
[17:18] <daftykins> scottyarwood_: cd /opt/google/chrome/plugins && sudo ln -s /usr/local/java/jre1.7.0_51/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
[17:18] <A1Recon> My PC has Intel and NVIDIA GPUs. Given the fact that NIVIDIA optimus is unusable in Nouveau. What do I do? Install Bumblebee?
[17:19] <daftykins> A1Recon: you again! waiting for 14.04 would be wise.
[17:19] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: I'd also like to have you create the same symlink in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ and see if it's a browser issue
[17:19] <A1Recon> daftykins: me again??
[17:20] <Sevet> hi everyone, i'm trying to get a server to boot where one drive in the raid array has failed (one is good). i see the grub menu, but booting just goes back to bios. also at the grub command line 'ls' also triggers a reboot instead of showing the devices
[17:20] <daftykins> A1Recon: but yes if you simply can't wait to try and get the nvidia chip going, give bumblebee or nvidia-prime a go
[17:20] <Sevet> anyone have any suggestions?
[17:20] <daftykins> Sevet: what kind of RAID? how many disks? is the dead one pulled?
[17:20] <A1Recon> daftykins: Last i remember I asked you for installing Ubuntu. Its working fantastic.... Except for the crappy batterylife
[17:21] <Sevet> daftykins: 2x drives (1x good, 1x failed) linux software RAID1, lvm on top of raid
[17:21] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: the reason I say that, is because even I have had issues with getting the browser plugin working correctly in Chrome... but it works fine with Firefox.
[17:21] <scottyarwood> It's not recognizing java in chrome://plugins even though i did what you told me to do and restarted my browser
[17:21] <scottyarwood> said what?
[17:22] <scottyarwood> I was gone for a few minutes when I restarted my browser
[17:22] <Sevet> daftykins: am currently waiting for the data centre to replace the failed drive - i'm wondering if grub tries to access it and that triggers the reboot
[17:22] <SuperLag> scottyarwood_: I'd also like to have you create the same symlink in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ and see if it's a browser issue
[17:22] <SuperLag> that ^^
[17:22] <Sevet> daftykins: the failed drive is not visible from bios, only the good one
[17:22] <daftykins> A1Recon: mmm, common situation that. did you look into 'laptop mode tools' ?
[17:23] <daftykins> Sevet: if it's mdadm or something, it could be that it has some safety mechanism not to boot if the drives aren't sync'd
[17:23] <Sevet> mdadm yes
[17:25] <croxio5> Hi guys, I have a laptop originally coming with Windows 8 in UEFI mode. Just wondering if there are any precautions I need to make if I'm just flat-out wiping the HDD or whether I can just delete all the partitions in GParted and then install Ubuntu afterwards. Cheers.
[17:26] <SuperLag> scottyarwood: that means "cd /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins && sudo -ln -s /usr/local/java/jre1.7.0_51/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so ."
[17:26] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Some folks make their Chrome profile(s) read-only so that nothing changes, I wonder if that can cause issues when java support is installed.
[17:26] <SuperLag> scottyarwood: and start Firefox and then to go a Java test page
[17:26] <daftykins> croxio5: are you going to try and install ubuntu in EFI or legacy mode?
[17:26] <bddy> Hi. Please, anyone with 12.04 could you tell if you have rlwrap installed?
[17:27] <croxio5> daftykins
[17:27] <croxio5> Yeah, in EFI.
[17:27] <bddy> (by default I mean(
[17:27] <croxio5> (still getting used to this IRC client...)
[17:27] <daftykins> croxio5: wouldn't hurt to make any backup discs your win8 system offers prior, then after nuking partitions i'd recommend dd'ing a good 100MB of zeroes onto the drive to really finish off Windows for good
[17:27] <scottyarwood> I'll try right now
[17:27] <tob89> someone from sweden?
[17:28] <daftykins> !se | tob89
[17:28] <croxio5> So I can just flat-out nuke the partitions and have there be no consequences?
[17:28] <scottyarwood> it can't find java on firefox either
[17:28] <daftykins> croxio5: well, none if you made backup discs to restore win8 if you have to :D
[17:28] <Beldar> croxio5, You have gpt partition tables, have fun.
[17:29] <croxio5> I have spare 8.1 discs lying around anyways (part-time school netadmin) so yeah.
[17:29] <daftykins> croxio5: so you're used to the fun of installing with the embedded EFI serials, ok good good :)
[17:30] <croxio5> Yeah, but with Ubuntu it'll be fine just nuking the partitions leaving the entire drive empty then installing on top from my USB?
[17:30] <SuperLag> scottyarwood: What page are you going to, to make that determination?
[17:30] <daftykins> croxio5: sure
[17:30] <Beldar> croxio5, It will still be a efi install, yes all fine if you know what you are doing.
[17:30] <croxio5> daftykins: Cool, cheers.
[17:31] <harushimo> what version of qt is on the ubuntu repostories? I'm looking for qt 5.2
[17:31] <scottyarwood> http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
[17:31] <SuperLag> scottyarwood: Okay, good. Now, you got the Oracle Java. Where did you extract it to?
[17:32] <LinuxGuy2020> I have recently bought a video capture device that only supports Windows. Before I return the item I wanted to ask if its possible to connect the USB device with Wine, install the included software and have it actually work? Or should I just return it and look for a natively supported device?
[17:32] <scottyarwood> what do you mean? I already have oracle java
[17:32] <cfhowlett> LinuxGuy2020, native support
[17:32] <LinuxGuy2020> Ok
[17:32] <scottyarwood> It just won't work in my web browser
[17:32] <SuperLag> scottyarwood: hear me out.
[17:32] <scottyarwood> okay
[17:33] <SuperLag> scottyarwood: when you get Oracle Java, it comes in either a .bin file (that you need to chmod +x, before you can extract) or as a .tar.gz file which you still have to extract.
[17:34] <SuperLag> that will likely create a jdk1.7.0_51 directory, in the location that you extracted it
[17:34] <SuperLag> scottyarwood: this is if you manually go to oracle.com and download the files yourself (which is what I always do)
[17:34] <scottyarwood> I did that too
[17:35] <scottyarwood> It was at /usr/local/java/jdk1.7.0_51
[17:35] <prainworker> someone here with wo worked with FreeCAD
[17:36] <cfhowlett> prainworker, see:   http://freecadweb.org/
[17:37] <SuperLag> scottyarwood: do this (and then paste it to paste.ubuntu.com): cd /usr/local/java/ && find . -name libnpjp2.so
[17:37] <Affy> e
[17:37] <prainworker> cfhowlett,  i am a ex solid works user and made allready really nice 3D parts on freeCAD only need a small hint
[17:38] <Dragoneye> must be something I missed, cannot get .htaccess file to work with apache2, added AllowOverride all in config files restarted apache2...  googled and still confused :-)  Any tips?
[17:38] <scottyarwood> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7175240/
[17:40] <daftykins> SuperLag: heh looks as simple as the guides having been for the JRE path vs. scottyarwood having the JDK installed
[17:40] <visva51> Hi, I have gpg keys for two separate mail accounts. I wish to sign (just sign, not encrrypt) a file from terminal with "gpg -armor -s filename"... it selects one of the two keys by itself, how do I make it select the key for other mail account for signing?
[17:41] <SuperLag> daftykins: yep.
[17:41] <SuperLag> scottyarwood: try this. "cd /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins && sudo -ln -s /usr/local/java/jdk1.7.0_51/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so ."
[17:41] <SuperLag> ugh
[17:41] <SuperLag> I got that wrong
[17:41] <SuperLag> hold on
[17:42] <SuperLag> scottyarwood: try this. "cd /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins && sudo -ln -s /usr/local/java/jdk1.7.0_51/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so ."
[17:42] <SuperLag> there
[17:42] <SuperLag> scottyarwood: then restart Firefox, and test for Java.
[17:43] <scottyarwood> its saying stuff about usage
[17:43] <daftykins> SuperLag: you have a - before 'ln', is that normal 0o
[17:43] <SuperLag> nope. typo.,
[17:43] <daftykins> scottyarwood: re-run it without the first hyphen after sudo
[17:43] <SuperLag> that ^
[17:43] <SuperLag> sorry
[17:44] <SuperLag> I can't type today, as you can well see. :D
[17:44] <scottyarwood> It still can't find java
[17:44] <SuperLag> argh
[17:44] <visva51> 	Hi, I have gpg keys for two separate mail accounts. I wish to sign (just sign, not encrrypt) a file from terminal with "gpg -armor -s filename"... it selects one of the two keys by itself, how do I make it select the key for other mail account for signing?
[17:44] <SuperLag> I wish I had access to this system.
[17:45] <SuperLag> I'd have you working in no time flat.
[17:45] <daftykins> SuperLag: :) would certainly be faaaaaar quicker
[17:45] <Aaruni> no heard of teamviewer, you guys?
[17:45] <Aaruni> even google hangouts has screen share now
[17:45] <SuperLag> oh crap
[17:45] <SuperLag> hangouts
[17:46] <SuperLag> that requires a plugin install.... which we're having issues with already. :D
[17:46] <Aaruni> or teamviewer?
[17:47] <daftykins> Aaruni: you'd be surprised how many users struggle to install teamviewer when their issue is less complex than even installing that
[17:47] <bekks> Why not just ssh and vnc over ssh?
[17:47] <daftykins> right, because you're going to get someone to port forward... ;D
[17:47] <scottyarwood> I have teamviewer
[17:47] <daftykins> been there... cried at that...
[17:47] <Aaruni> bekks: ssh would require port forwarding
[17:47] <bekks> No.
[17:48] <daftykins> i helped some guy a month ago that somehow had a different IP on his router status to what whatismyip.com said
[17:48] <Aaruni> internal DHCP. router makes an internal LAN, with a shared connection to the internet
[17:48] <daftykins> Aaruni: are you talking about in this situation? lol no, whatismyip.com shows the web-facing IP.
[17:49] <daftykins> how insulting for you to think that :(
[17:49] <KyouReeUs4nfo> SuperLag: just jumping the gun, would reinstalling Chrome help??
[17:49] <anonymous_> test
[17:49] <Aaruni> daftykins: I have no idea what I said wrong. maybe I misunderstood what you mean by IP on router status. I apologize for the offence
[17:50] <KyouReeUs4nfo> anonymous_: ack
[17:50] <bekks> Aaruni: the router status display the internal IP. the IP on whatsmyip.com is the external IP.
[17:51] <Aaruni> yeah, I said that, didn't I? whatsmyip shows 27.*.*.*, but router shows 192.168.0.100 . bekks , daftykins ?
[17:51] <daftykins> Aaruni + bekks - no in this case the router status page was showing the WAN IP.
[17:51] <daftykins> because i'm not a newbie :)
[17:51] <daftykins> i'd have to be a few pints down to read 'LAN IP' and think it was the internet facing one.
[17:51] <scottyarwood> brb
[17:51] <Guest68673> hi, i am using ubuntu 12.04, my wireless is not turning on
[17:52] <Aaruni> Guest68673: can you tell what is your wireless hardware?
[17:53] <Guest68673> Aaruni, its broadcom on hp 6720 S laptop
[17:54] <scottyarwood> I'm back
[17:55] <jester> helow
[17:55] <daftykins> scottyarwood: i'm game for another try.
[17:56] <scottyarwood> okay
[17:56] <jester> ?
[17:56] <daftykins> scottyarwood: this time, i'm going to go back to trying chrome, so make sure any and all chrome windows are closed first of all, then go back to your terminal and type "cd /opt/google/chrome/plugins"
[17:56] <Aaruni> Guest63462: which broadcom ?
[17:56] <jester> how anonymous is this websight ?
[17:57] <Guest68673> hi, i am using ubuntu 12.04, my wireless "broadcam STA"is not turning on
[17:57] <scottyarwood> I'll brb and open this with firefox
[17:57] <jester> ill like to join up
[17:57] <Aaruni> Guest63462: try this : http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[17:57] <daftykins> jester: join #freenode if you want to learn how to register as a user here, this is ubuntu support, not IRC support
[17:58] <scottyarwood> I am back
[17:58] <scottyarwood> so what shoud I do?
[17:58] <daftykins> scottyarwood: ok did you enter that command in the terminal already?
[17:58] <scottyarwood> not yet
[17:58] <daftykins> "cd /opt/google/chrome/plugins"
[17:59] <scottyarwood> I did that
[17:59] <daftykins> scottyarwood: now remember what i said about tab completing?
[17:59] <ddel>   
[17:59] <scottyarwood> what do you mean?
[17:59] <unknown> python vBulletinBruteForcer.py.txt
[17:59] <unknown> python sqlmap.py -u
[17:59] <Guest68673> Aaruni, BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN
[17:59] <daftykins> scottyarwood: so type this one manually, don't copy and paste, type the first couple of characters after a / then hit tab to let it autocomplete it. e.g. type "sudo /u" now, then hit tab and it should complete to /usr ?
[18:00] <unknown> python fbruteforcer.py
[18:00] <Aaruni> Guest63462: yeah, then the driver should work
[18:00] <unknown> i know  more
[18:00] <scottyarwood> oh
[18:00] <unknown> grat hat
[18:00] <daftykins> scottyarwood: "sudo ln -s /usr/local/java/jdk1.7.0_51/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so libnpjp2.so"
[18:01] <daftykins> scottyarwood: that last bit is repeated after a space, it's no accident
[18:01] <SuperLag> daftykins: you could just make it easy and use "."
[18:01] <SuperLag> just sayin.... :)
[18:01] <daftykins> i could have yes
[18:01] <daftykins> :>
[18:01] <unknown> MSSExploiter.py.txt
[18:02] <OerHeks> unknown, what are you trying to do? do you have an ubuntu support question?
[18:02] <daftykins> unknown: unless you have a question regarding ubuntu support please leave
[18:02] <scottyarwood> it said that the file already exists
[18:02] <unknown> deface?
[18:03] <daftykins> scottyarwood: ok, run "sudo rm libnpjp2.so" then hit cursor up twice and repeat the command
[18:03] <daftykins> scottyarwood: then run "ls -l" and pastebin the output for us
[18:03] <unknown> rootdabitch.sh
[18:03] <daftykins> trolls gonna troll.
[18:03] <clue_h> lol
[18:04] <KyouReeUs4nfo> daftykins: does ubottu have definition of troll too? it would be funny. :)
[18:04] <scottyarwood> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7175412/
[18:04] <daftykins> KyouReeUs4nfo: not sure - you'd have to PM her and try the trigger out to check :>
[18:05] <KyouReeUs4nfo> daftykins: what is the syntax? !troll?
[18:05] <daftykins> scottyarwood: hrmm it has a double slash in there after local// y'see? re-do it :)
[18:05] <Guest68673> Aaruni, driver is downloaded but how to install it?
[18:05] <scottyarwood> what do you mean by re-do it?
[18:06] <Aaruni> Guest63462: do you have 32bit, or 64 bit?
[18:06] <daftykins> scottyarwood: i think your command may have had two slashes by mistake, so "rm" it as above again, then repeat the command but check that it doesn't have "//"
[18:06] <Guest68673> Aaruni, 32 bit brother
[18:06] <daftykins> SuperLag: does root owning the symlink to the plugin not matter? i guess it appears 777'd so no issue?
[18:07] <unknown> not doing noting just wacthing see how good yous are
[18:07] <scottyarwood> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7175430/
[18:07] <scottyarwood> I pasted the results again for you
[18:08] <daftykins> scottyarwood: that looks good. so how does chrome's plugin page look now?
[18:08] <scottyarwood> I'll check
[18:08] <Aaruni> Guest63462: tar -xvzf hybrid <press tab to auto-complete>
[18:09] <Aaruni> then cd hybrid <press tab to auto-complete>
[18:10] <Aaruni> Guest68673: make && sudo make install && sudo update-iniramfs -u && sudo reboot
[18:10] <scottyarwood> It appears!!!
[18:10] <daftykins> Aaruni: typo'd initramfs
[18:10] <Aaruni> oops
[18:10] <Aaruni> Guest68673: still there?
[18:11] <daftykins> scottyarwood: ;) very good. thing you tried to run works now?
[18:11] <Guest68673> yes
[18:11] <Guest68673> Aaruni, yes, trying to catch,
[18:11] <unknown> https://silkroad6ownowfk.onion.to/login
[18:11] <Aaruni> Guest68673: untar the file, cd into the directory, then ping me
[18:11] <scottyarwood> I'm checking if it runs
[18:12] <OerHeks> !ot | unknown
[18:12] <unknown> https://silkroad6ownowfk.onion.to/login
[18:12] <unknown> https://silkroad6ownowfk.onion.to/login
[18:12] <unknown> https://silkroad6ownowfk.onion.to/login
[18:12] <Aaruni> !kick| unknown
[18:12] <unknown> tor
[18:12] <scottyarwood> It works!!!
[18:12] <unknown> kick me see what ill do
[18:12] <scottyarwood> Thank you so much!!!
[18:12] <unknown> trust me
[18:12] <scottyarwood> I couldn't have done this without you!!!
[18:12] <daftykins> scottyarwood: so if you take the above and re-run it in the mozilla folder you can get firefox working too
[18:12] <OerHeks> !ops | unknown
[18:13] <DJones> unknown: Stop that
[18:13] <daftykins> scottyarwood: no worries ;)
[18:13] <scottyarwood> should I do it for firefox? I don't ever use firefox anyways
[18:14] <scottyarwood> well, I'll go now.
[18:14] <scottyarwood> Thanks for everything everybody
[18:15] <macdabby> having issues adding a second route .. so if i: route add -net 10.0.9.0/24 dev eth1 , i can’t ping 10.0.9.1. i get ‘From 10.0.7.8 … Destination Host Unreachable’ … but that 10.0.7.8 is the local ip of eth1
[18:15] <daftykins> SuperLag: so a typo could've been all it was :(
[18:18] <macdabby> also when i tried to add the route with a gateway, it wont let me , unless i first add one without a gateway… is that normal? i end up with this: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/bbf9e63ed16c866685f7
[18:18] <daftykins> macdabby: ugh you can't have two default gateways XD
[18:19] <unknown> help with aircrack-ng lol :)?
[18:19] <scelis> Can anyone help me with a daemontools issue? The logging of my service doesn't seem to be working. The directory and logfile are never created. https://gist.github.com/scelis/ca9d012cacc5022dbd24
[18:19] <macdabby> daftykins: i’m not trying to .. i’m just trying to use eth1 as the gateway for 10.0.9.0/24 …. and 10.0.7.0/24
[18:20] <unknown> aircrack-ng -01.cap !? -w /home/???/darkc0de.lst
[18:20] <macdabby> daftykins: i tried removing the 3rd line (the other UG) and i still get the same result… destination unreachable
[18:20] <daftykins> macdabby: all your clients need to know is those other networks exist, they will reach out to your *one* default gateway to send to them, you don't specify a gateway per net
[18:21] <peterpacz1> Hello guys.
[18:21] <peterpacz1> I think I might messed up my linux installation in a pretty severe way :(
[18:21] <peterpacz1> Can someone help me?
[18:21] <daftykins> peterpacz1: what did you do? on one line if you can.
[18:21] <peterpacz1> Actually
[18:21] <basiclaser> hey guys, i want to make an 'app' patch that i can share amongst linux/debian/ubuntu users which will perform mathematical operations on the displayed system time, without effecting the underlying system clocks dependencies. Just augmenting the visual widget
[18:22] <cfhowlett> unknown, not supported here
[18:22] <peterpacz1> draftykins: I'll take several lines to explain - but I made a ask ubuntu question, you can see the explaination there: https://askubuntu.com/questions/440834/grub-rescue-mode-installed-debian-on-usb-and-original-ubuntu-13-10-system-doe
[18:22] <peterpacz1> In short, I think I broke my master boot record
[18:22] <macdabby> daftykins: i was having a problem with that tho, where my 9.0 address was tryign to connect to this box … it can connect on eth0 or eth1 because 9.0 is a VPN … if it connects through eth1, i think its trying to send its response out through eth0 so it never makes it back
[18:22] <clue_h> basiclaser, what will it do with system time?
[18:23] <Aaruni> peterpacz1: try boot-repair from a live USB
[18:23] <clue_h> basiclaser, #ubuntu-devel
[18:23] <macdabby> daftykins: but 8.0 is kind of the public network, so all private connections over 9.0 should go through the private network on eth1
[18:23] <daftykins> macdabby: i'm sorry but i think your entire setup is far more complex than it should be, i don't see why you're trying to setup 4 networks at home, but being able to blind ping between them certainly isn't anything to do with security
[18:24] <peterpacz1> Aaruni: Can you elaborate?
[18:24] <Aaruni> peterpacz1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:24] <smartracer> hi i have ubuntu 11.04.a old unsupported version of ubuntu.but can i get packages to play media files for that? how can i get them in single package?
[18:25] <daftykins> smartracer: it's unsupported which means game over i'm afraid
[18:25] <macdabby> daftykins: network 1 = webservers, network 2 = puppet, databases, etc … they will all communicat together through the second network
[18:26] <macdabby> daftykins: if i need to be able to administrate them, i’d like to be able to log in through the VPN then ssh into the web server or any of the servers on the second network
[18:26] <tb01110100> I'm just wondering what canonical's reasoning is behind "locking down" the root account?
[18:26] <macdabby> daftykins: but i dont want any of those servers to be on the public side of the network
[18:26] <smartracer> yes i know but i need packages.i searched and find some packages.but i cant find media packages
[18:26] <smartracer> as a single package.
[18:26] <Guest68673> Aaruni, file is untared but can not locate it
[18:27] <daftykins> macdabby: you might have more luck chatting in #networking or ##networking, i can't follow that stuff without diagrams and details :)
[18:27] <macdabby> daftykins: lol cool good idea - thanks!
[18:27] <Aaruni> Guest68673: it should be untared into the same directory as the *.tar
[18:27] <basiclaser> clue_h: it will display a division of the current time
[18:27] <basiclaser> thanks
[18:28] <Guest68673> Aaruni, can i paste the result here for u?
[18:28] <daftykins> !paste | Guest68673
[18:28] <mix> hey guys
[18:28] <Aaruni> Guest68673: I don't think channel allows for pasting. you are free to PM me
[18:28] <mix> is there any sharepoint like solutions on apt?
[18:31] <belak> Is there an easy way to tell if a package can be backported?
[18:31] <scelis> hmmm, restarting the box made the log service start. not sure why svscan didn't do it automatically
[18:31] <belak> Well, get a general idea?
[18:31] <Flannel> belak: If all of the packages it depends on are versionless and/or their minimum version requirements are already satisfied by the release you're backporting to.
[18:32] <IdleOne> belak: all packages can be backported. The real question is can it be done easily and is it worth the devs time to
[18:32] <Flannel> belak: If not, you'll have to start backporting those other ones, and then you *may* open a can of worms (or may not, if those other ones have easy dependencies)
[18:32] <belak> Ah, ok... just noticed there isn't even a package for glfw3 yet
[18:33] <Vyom> Who likes GNome more than Unity here?
[18:34] <IdleOne> Vyom: Do you have a support question? Polls are better for #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:34] <Flannel> belak: That may/may not be "backporting" then, it's likely more just "packaging"
[18:34] <Vyom> ah, thanks IdleOne
[18:34] <belak> Yeah
[18:34] <belak> Thanks
[18:35] <Flannel> belak: But the same questions apply for older versions: Do the versions of dependencies satisfy easily (in the older ones)? or are you going to have to backport half the world?
[18:36] <belak> Got it
[18:36] <belak> Thanks
[18:39] <Putdeksel> After an attempt to set up a VPN my server is no longer reachable from outside my network. And I have no idea where to look for.
[18:47] <sin> hy
[18:48] <yabtzok> hi, anyone know the name of the package needed to install different repositories ? (im on a custom ubuntu build without those)
[18:49] <mix> hmm seem to be stuck on retrieving packages in the text install
[18:53] <yabtzok> bash: add-repository: command not found
[18:53] <yabtzok> what can i do? i need this package
[18:53] <Aaruni> yabtzok: wasn't it apt-add-repository ?
[18:54] <yabtzok> thank you Aaruni , also found out what package i needed :"software-properties-common"
[18:54] <Aaruni> :)
[18:57] <ddssc> mouse sensitivity settings have no effect whatsoever. how can I speed up my mouse?
[18:57] <Evvvvy> Hey quick question: I'm going to dual boot Windows and Ubuntu. If I want to increase the size of the Ubuntu partition later, can I do so without erasing Windows or its data?
[18:58] <ddssc> Evvvvy: you can. but it's not recommended (you can fuck up your partition)
[18:58] <Aaruni> Evvvvy: I don't think so
[18:58] <ddssc> Evvvvy: you can do it with gparted
[18:58] <IdleOne> ddssc: Please keep the language clean in here
[18:58] <ddssc> should go ok but will most likely kill grub so you'll have to reinstall it
[18:59] <Evvvvy> Thanks!
[19:01] <ddssc> Evvvvy: np
[19:02] <ddssc> anyone knows a mouse package that actually works? I just want to increase my mouse sensitivity...
[19:03] <brontosaurusrex> ddssc, xset ?
[19:03] <ddssc> xset
[19:03] <ddssc> brontosaurusrex: which value should I set here?
[19:03]  * Dragoneye soved it :-)
[19:03] <brontosaurusrex> ddssc, I can post my toggle-type script if you wish, but its slightly hardcoded
[19:04]  * Dragoneye s/soved/solved/
[19:04] <brontosaurusrex> ddssc, i have: xset m 1/3 1
[19:04] <ddssc> brontosaurusrex: paste it
[19:05] <brontosaurusrex> for the more-sensitive version
[19:05] <brontosaurusrex> ddssc, http://paste.debian.net/plain/90457
[19:05] <ddssc> I figure its possible to set it up with xinput but i've no clue what any of those values mean... there's no Sensitivty variable ..
[19:08] <skinofstars> hi guys. i'm having some problems with nfs shares. i'm getting "exportfs /home/username/dir  does not support NFS export"
[19:09] <Guest55668> hi all
[19:09] <skinofstars> this is on a lucid box
[19:09] <ddssc> brontosaurusrex: sry I've no idea what your script does
[19:09] <Guest55668> which card is bether Intel gma 950 or Ati X1300 pro@
[19:10] <Guest55668> 10x in advise
[19:10] <ddssc> hey how can I manually set my mouse sensitivity?
[19:11] <brontosaurusrex> ddssc, try xset m 1/3 1
[19:11] <brontosaurusrex> and see what happens ...
[19:11] <skinofstars> ddssc: press the meta key (windows key?) amnd type mouse. it'll bring up the mouse settings thing
[19:12] <Brutusss> Hi I got a new computer and wanted to run windows 7 to play games next to ubuntu. I installed windows 7 and installed ubuntu on another partition but i can't select it when i boot my computer
[19:13] <cryptomat> Hi, I know my question is not linux  related but I know there is a lot of brilliant peoples here so I'm gonna give it a try. I need a way to print text on a paper and transfer it on a textured certificate. Anybody have an idea for me ? I've been looking like crazy for the past two days... :)
[19:13] <ddssc> skinofstars: where do I type mouse? terminal?
[19:13] <skinofstars> ddssc: nah, the unity search box
[19:13] <ddssc> skinofstars: ... i know how to get to mouse settings. it's just that the settings have no effect
[19:13] <skinofstars> Brutusss: you need to change your grub time. see this http://askubuntu.com/questions/87409/i-cant-get-grub-menu-to-show-up-during-boot
[19:14] <OerHeks> cryptomat, what do you mean with "textured certificate" ?
[19:14] <Brutusss> http://askubuntu.com/questions/87409/i-cant-get-grub-menu-to-show-up-during-boot
[19:14] <Brutusss> oh sorry wrong key
[19:14] <cryptomat> OerHeks: Card Board (Not a plain surface)
[19:14] <skinofstars> ddssc: perhaps try brontosaurusrex's suggestion
[19:14] <Brutusss> skinofstars: that looks great but I can't get into ubuntu
[19:14] <Brutusss> I can't select it, it automatically goes to windows
[19:15] <OerHeks> cryptomat, glue?
[19:15] <ddssc> skinofstars: dont think his script does what i need
[19:15] <skinofstars> Brutusss: ahh, did you not select 'update master boot record' when you installed ubuntu?
[19:15] <Guest55668> bye
[19:16] <skinofstars> ddssc: sorry, i don't know the answer then. perhaps ask the room again
[19:16] <OerHeks> cryptomat, if you want to print on an non-level surface, you will need a lazer i guess
[19:16] <Brutusss> I didn't see the option
[19:16] <cryptomat> OerHeks: I want to transfer the text, as if it had been printed directly on the certificate, to make it look more professional than just a sticker or glued text... :/
[19:16] <skinofstars> Brutusss: youu'll be able to reinstall the MBR from a live cd
[19:16] <Brutusss> I selected the partition and didn't see any option for that
[19:17] <skinofstars> Brutusss: it may have been automatic then. you need to look up booting to grub.
[19:17] <Brutusss> let me try to work with this
[19:17] <OerHeks> cryptomat, ah i see, if the certificate is smaller than a A4 or legal paper, you might want to stick it with scotch tape, that is easily removable
[19:18] <OerHeks> and hope it would not jam your printer
[19:18] <skinofst1rs> so, has anyone had problems with nfs on 12.04?
[19:19] <cryptomat> OerHeks: Yes, I thought about that option but it will surely jam. I don't know if there is a printer on wich you can place smaller paper flat and the head move instead of the paper.... that would be a solution, I think :P
[19:21] <OerHeks> cryptomat, all transfer papers are for clothing and such, but i googled and found this one, with pics .. http://www.unexpectedelegance.com/2011/09/01/wax-paper-transfer-tutorial/
[19:21] <OerHeks> but that would be vague
[19:21] <bekks> !grub2 | Brutusss
[19:22] <cryptomat> OerHeks: Yea, already saw that page, unfortunatly it's not precise enough... :/
[19:23] <Brutusss> ubottu: i did it the other way around. i installed windows first, ubuntu never showed up
[19:23] <Brutusss> oh lol
[19:23] <mix> does anyone know of any sharepoint like services available to install from apt?
[19:24] <bekks> mix: what do you mean exactly? What are you looking for, in detail?
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> mix  zhqt should it be able to do
[19:25] <kostkon> !info zhqt
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> brb wrong keyb layout
[19:27] <owen1> what the android app that let me install linux distros from my phone?
[19:27] <gmachine_24> Brutuss did you try a boot repair disc?
[19:28] <Brutusss> how
[19:28] <bekks> Brutusss: Did you read the link given about repairing grub?
[19:28] <ddssc> owen1: the wi-fi button on your phone
[19:28] <gmachine_24> that's actually a yes or no question
[19:28] <zubuntu> hi there
[19:28] <Brutusss> yes bekks, can't figure out what to do with it
[19:29] <bekks> Brutusss: Reading it...
[19:29] <zubuntu> i ve several problems
[19:29] <bekks> Brutusss: It clearly describes what to do.
[19:29] <mix> bekks: share documents in a web interface
[19:29] <daftykins> zubuntu: please detail them on one line
[19:29] <bekks> mix: an ordinary webserver will do that, too.
[19:29] <zubuntu> 1.   i installed mirc via wine but /server -m anotherserver.irc  command doesnt work
[19:29] <Brutusss> did that
[19:29] <owen1> ddssc: there is an app that lets u chose a distro from a list
[19:29] <mix> mix: i mean being able to edit them etc
[19:29] <daftykins> zubuntu: why not use a native IRC client? :)
[19:30] <mix> mix: basically needs to be easy for my landlady to use :)
[19:30] <mix> why am i messaging myself?
[19:30] <mix> :D
[19:30] <ddssc> owen: okok, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+do+I+install+linux+from+phone
[19:30] <daftykins> only you can know
[19:30] <zubuntu> daftykins:  i am use to mirc :S
[19:30] <mix> lol
[19:30] <zubuntu> i have a lot of addons and scripts working on mirc
[19:30] <zubuntu> kvirc is ok but i didnt like interface, xchat is good but i couldnt manage addons and scripts
[19:30] <daftykins> zubuntu: :S ok are all your issues to do with mIRC under wine? :)
[19:30] <zubuntu> yes daftykins
[19:31] <zubuntu> as i said i tried to join here from another irc server but /server -m command didnt work
[19:31] <zubuntu> it seems simple issue but couldnt handle
[19:31] <gmachine_24> Brutusss: "did that" is not really very helpful
[19:31] <zubuntu> also wine doesnt work for many programs
[19:31] <daftykins> zubuntu: in that case you might want to speak with ##winehq instead, perhaps they can advise as to whether you're running things the right way
[19:31] <zubuntu> especially games
[19:31] <Brutusss> sorry gmachine_24, i read it a few times
[19:31] <Brutusss> i can't open the drive sda5, at least not from within the gui
[19:32] <bekks> Brutusss: Read _what_?
[19:32] <zubuntu> daftykins: ##winehq  is empty channel
[19:32] <daftykins> zubuntu: yeah if you want games then wine is more of a last option, steam has lots of natively linux games now
[19:32] <zubuntu> seems i am the founder now :p
[19:32] <Brutusss> the given link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/87409/i-cant-get-grub-menu-to-show-up-during-boot
[19:32] <bekks> Brutusss: Why do you try to "open sda5"?
[19:32] <daftykins> zubuntu: ah, might be single #
[19:32] <Brutusss> i need to open that grub file?
[19:32] <k1l_> !wine | zubuntu
[19:32] <zubuntu> daftykins:  i have my pc game archieves
[19:32] <bekks> !grub2 | Brutusss
[19:32] <Brutusss> i can't open ubuntu at all so I'm in a live disk
[19:32] <zubuntu> i dont wanna pay extra with steam :S
[19:32] <bekks> Brutusss: Please read the links given.
[19:33] <gmachine_24> Brutusss: bekks has given the information needed
[19:33] <simpleuser> Hi there. Is there a way to zoom on my Xubuntu ? I’m using a small screen and it’s a bit small for my eyes. I remember that some years ago when I used to use Compiz, I could zoom on my screen with Super + Scroll
[19:33] <gmachine_24> or at least links to it
[19:33] <zubuntu> ok
[19:33] <Brutusss> oh right, i did try the boot-repair but my network card doesn't seem to function in the live disk so I can't install that from USB
[19:33] <bekks> Brutusss: Please follow the links given now.
[19:34] <Brutusss> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update
[19:34] <Brutusss> i can't do that, i need a working network connection for that :S
[19:34] <bekks> Brutusss: Obviously you are ignoring the people trying to help you. Good luck then with whatever you do.
[19:34] <zubuntu> 2.  problem..  i downloaded adobe reader.deb file from adobe site and installed.. then tried to remove but seems couldnt remove fully, so i installed via deb again but it doesnt appear in software center
[19:34] <Brutusss> bekks i'm absolutely not
[19:34] <Brutusss> i read the documentation, i can't continue with that
[19:34] <bekks> Brutusss: Why not?
[19:35] <Brutusss>  Brutusss> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update
[19:35] <Brutusss> 03/29/14:20:34:10 < Brutusss> i can't do that, i need a working network connection for that :S
[19:35] <k1l_> Brutusss: why doesnt the live cd have network? it should
[19:35] <Brutusss> k1l_: no idea, it shows the eth0 in ifconfig but it won't connect.
[19:35] <Brutusss> i have dhcp on my local network
[19:35] <Brutusss> no ipv4 address
[19:35] <k1l_> use the network manager in the panel
[19:36] <bekks> Brutusss: The links given do not even mention adding a boot repair PPA. So whatever you are doing, you actually are ignoring the people trying to help you. You did not read the links given, which have been told multiple times. So. Good luck.
[19:36] <Brutusss> settings for my network card seem to be correct. automatic dhcp. shows a wired connection.
[19:36] <Brutusss> bekks that line is from the documentation
[19:36] <gmachine_24> Brutusss: however you're connected now to the Internet, dl this and burn it to a cd and take it from there http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd/home/Home/
[19:36] <Brutusss> copy / paste
[19:37] <Brutusss> bekks: it says I need to install boot-repair so I follow the link to that and it tells me to add that line (with the ppa).
[19:37] <Brutusss> gmachine_24: yes i'm on another machine with irc
[19:37] <Brutusss> let me open that
[19:38] <bekks> Brutusss: And a few lines below it tells you a terminal way which does not need boot repair.
[19:38] <Brutusss> bekks: ohh now I feel like an idiot
[19:38] <gmachine_24> good
[19:39] <bekks> Brutusss: Please readd the entire articles before following links blindly.
[19:47] <bjwangshi> hi everybody
[19:53] <cere> ciao
[19:54] <owen1> in unetbootin i don't have an entry for 13.10. should i use '12.04 live' or 'daily live' instead?
[19:55] <clue_h> owen1, select iso instead
[19:56] <clue_h> and get 13.10 if you want it
[19:57] <owen1> clue_h: maybe since i run it from debian. should i use usb-creator-gtk (on my ubuntu laptop) instead of unetbootin?
[19:58] <clue_h> owen1, sure usb creator works ok
[19:59] <donvito> if i want file /var/etc/blabla.cfg to be updated everyweek what do i need to do?
[19:59] <clue_h> donvito, might want to checkout cron
[19:59] <k1l_> donvito: set a cronjob to "update" that file
[20:00] <donvito> i mean to be backuped
[20:00] <donvito> sorry
[20:00] <donvito> :(
[20:00] <owen1> clue_h: thanks!
[20:01] <owen1> where is ubuntu mounting the usb stick i just insert?
[20:01] <k1l_> donvito: see deja dup
[20:01] <k1l_> donvito: there you can say to backup that file every week
[20:01] <k1l_> owen1: if its unity desktop its /media/user/...
[20:03] <owen1> k1l_: yup. thanks
[20:03] <zubuntu> is there a way to change desktop icon styles ?
[20:04] <andishe> does any one know how to dl mathematica in linux
[20:04] <operaghostkv> it  should  be  auto mounted
[20:04] <zubuntu> like to remove shadow from icon labels and add background color ?
[20:04] <operaghostkv> are you using unity
[20:04] <zubuntu> 12.04 with gnome session fall back
[20:05] <owen1> i use i3 instead of unity. i also prefer a textbased wireless connection tool (like wicd). do i need to uninstall network-manager or there is no need.
[20:05] <k1l_> andishe: ask wolfram, its a commercial software
[20:05] <rww> owen1: if you're using some other network management system, you should probably remove network-manager. theoretically i think they don't conflict, but... they do.
[20:06] <operaghostkv> you should check their official site
[20:06] <owen1> rww: awesome. i'll do that.
[20:06] <owen1> does anyone uses ansible to install the software on his boxes?
[20:07] <xar-> owen1: ask in #ansible
[20:07] <owen1> also, when ejecting a usb drive, do i need to unmount it first or is it safe to just pull it out.
[20:07] <owen1> xar-: ok
[20:07] <k1l_> owen1: unmount it first
[20:07] <clue_h> owen1, best to unmount first
[20:07] <owen1> ok. since i don't use unity, i'll just use the 'sudo unmount' command.
[20:08] <clue_h> owen1, i think it's umount not unmount
[20:08] <owen1> yeah
[20:09] <operaghostkv> umount it then fdisk -l
[20:10] <operaghostkv> usb mass traveller should be at /dev/sdg or something
[20:10] <zubuntu> is there a way to change desktop icon styles ?
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> !themes | zubuntu
[20:11] <zubuntu> MonkeyDust:  i dont need theme :S
[20:11] <zubuntu> i just wanna tweak icons
[20:11] <operaghostkv> zubuntu: which DE are you using ?
[20:11] <zubuntu> ubuntu 12.04 with gnome look
[20:12] <operaghostkv> i used  gnome tweak tools
[20:12] <zubuntu> i wanna remove shadow
[20:12] <zubuntu> and add background
[20:12] <zubuntu> that s all
[20:12] <operaghostkv> works great
[20:13] <operaghostkv> there are gnome tweak tools
[20:13] <zubuntu> i installed ubuntu tweak
[20:13] <zubuntu> but there s no tweak for icons
[20:13] <basiclaser> guys what controls the displayed system time in Ubuntu ? unity/gnome based on system time right?
[20:13] <operaghostkv> not ubuntu tweak .gnome tweak
[20:14] <operaghostkv> o my ..i am talking to a wall
[20:14] <OerHeks> !info unity-tweak
[20:14] <rww> !info unity-tweak-tool
[20:14] <zubuntu> operaghostkv:  i am installing it
[20:15] <zubuntu> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/gnome-tweak-tool/
[20:15] <zubuntu> thx
[20:15] <zubuntu> i ll give it a try
[20:15] <operaghostkv> ubuntu tweak tool is a tool to manage ubuntu itself
[20:16] <zubuntu> yea got it thx
[20:16] <k1l_> ubuntu tweak is really a big problem. its the similar stuff to the windows tweak things which promise to "speed up windows"
[20:16] <YokoBR> hey guys, i have a dell inspiron 3250 n4110, but i can't enable the discrete driver, ATI 7400 series
[20:17] <operaghostkv> you should tell us whether you are using open source driver
[20:18] <k1l_> YokoBR: did you try to install the fglrx from the official ubuntu repo?
[20:18] <zubuntu> operaghostkv:
[20:18] <operaghostkv> yes
[20:18] <zubuntu> sorry to tell but it didnt work
[20:18] <zubuntu> it has no option to change icon style, just it has icon theme which i dont want
[20:18] <YokoBR> nope, i've downloaded the driver from ati.com
[20:18] <YokoBR> kll_
[20:19] <YokoBR> k1l_
[20:19] <zubuntu> i wanna edit default icons for default theme
[20:19] <k1l_> zubuntu: then edit the icon theme
[20:19] <zubuntu> how will i ?
[20:19] <zubuntu> there s no edit option
[20:19] <k1l_> YokoBR: why that? why not use the ubunut driver?
[20:19] <k1l_> zubuntu: painting skills?
[20:19] <operaghostkv> you need to creat a theme using default icons
[20:19] <YokoBR> k1l_, idk, i aways do that.
[20:20] <k1l_> YokoBR: that is a bad old windows habbit
[20:20] <clue_h> zubuntu, it can be done in dconf, too long to say how here but this is a good description http://iloveubuntu.net/how-change-your-icon-theme-dconf-editor-ubuntu-1110 but just make sure you have the themes as it says at the end of the article
[20:20] <zubuntu> operaghostkv:  how comes ubuntu didnt put any option for that ?
[20:20] <YokoBR> k1l_, it's not that. I had an HP g42 and it was a pain to install those drivers.
[20:21] <YokoBR> That's an old hp habbit
[20:21] <k1l_> YokoBR: no excuse for that
[20:21] <k1l_> YokoBR: so please ask ati whats going wrong with their driver
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> zubuntu  canonical cannot add a functionality for the needs of one single individual
[20:21] <zubuntu> Appearance Properties have been dropped in Ubuntu 11.10
[20:21] <loonix103> in permissions what does the stand for? example -rwsr -xr -x
[20:22] <operaghostkv> zubuntu: you have too be kidding me.i change icons open on ubuntu
[20:22] <loonix103> "s" stand for
[20:22] <operaghostkv> often
[20:22] <k1l_> zubuntu: please see gnome documentation if your wishes are even possible in gnome desktop
[20:22] <zubuntu> they can put tools for alltogether
[20:22] <YokoBR> linux proprietary gpu drivers are lame, aways.
[20:22] <k1l_> zubuntu: ubuntu 11.10? o_O
[20:22] <zubuntu> k1l_:  it says in documentation
[20:22] <zubuntu> not me
[20:22] <zubuntu> http://iloveubuntu.net/how-change-your-icon-theme-dconf-editor-ubuntu-1110
[20:22] <zubuntu> first sentence
[20:23] <k1l_> zubuntu: do you have ubuntu 11.10?
[20:23] <k1l_> zubuntu: you are wildly mixing up things here
[20:23] <zubuntu> no i wanted to make a point that after 11.04 everything has been changed
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> zubuntu  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[20:23] <zubuntu> they added unity
[20:24] <zubuntu> and they removed some tools
[20:24] <k1l_> zubuntu: ask gnome what changed in that time m(
[20:24] <zubuntu> also they removed open office
[20:24] <k1l_> zubuntu: come on
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> zubuntu  it's now libre office
[20:24] <xangua> zubuntu: they added gnome3, libreoffice is the new openoffice
[20:24] <zubuntu> libreoffice is not openoffice
[20:24] <zubuntu> totally different
[20:24] <cisconinja> how to export gui from 13.10 terminal to windows 7 on a different machine
[20:24] <rww> and Ubuntu's OpenOffice had a bunch of patches that are in Libreoffice anyway
[20:24] <operaghostkv> you can keep using 10.04.no one stops you
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> zubuntu  no, that's why it has a different name
[20:24] <k1l_> zubuntu: you blame ubuntu for everything, including waldsterben and climate change?
[20:24] <rww> operaghostkv: security vulnerabilities should
[20:25] <zubuntu> 10.04 was nice but soon it wont be supported
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> zubuntu  to avoid windows xp scenario's (12 year support)
[20:25] <k1l_> zubuntu: sry, but you have no idea what was going on with openoffice and libreoffice. so stop judging that.
[20:25] <zubuntu> k1l_:  nope i just blame that they change everything all of sudden
[20:26] <zubuntu> k1l_:   well some apps can have fans :p
[20:26] <k1l_> you really have no clue. so stop making drama out of this
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> zubuntu  but not enough to continue support for it
[20:26] <zubuntu> k1l_:  u r being rude
[20:26] <zubuntu> i am just critisizing
[20:27] <rww> Let's get back to Ubuntu support, folks
[20:27] <zubuntu> look for just single edit i am googling about 1 hour
[20:27] <operaghostkv> you cant blame them .one day you make a os yourself .u can make any change you want
[20:27] <k1l_> zubuntu: no, you are mixing up things because ubuntu/canonical doesnt do exactly like you wish to. there are alot more users with other interests than yours. so if you want another icon theme, go and make it
[20:27] <zubuntu> i love ubuntu but some changes made me upset that s all
[20:28] <zubuntu> k1l_:   i dont think they asked users UNITY or gnome look
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> zubuntu  that's called 'growing up'
[20:28] <zubuntu> that s called " being commercial " maybe :)
[20:28] <operaghostkv> then don't use ubuntu .
[20:28] <k1l_> zubuntu: again: ask gnome what was wrong with gnome2. dont blame ubuntu
[20:29] <zubuntu> whatever
[20:29] <operaghostkv> you need gentoo boy !
[20:29] <clue_h> zubuntu, did dconf work?
[20:29] <ikonia> operaghostkv: please don't make such silly statements
[20:29] <zubuntu> clue_h:  i am reading it
[20:29] <zubuntu> i was *
[20:29] <operaghostkv> sorry
[20:31] <owen1> i boot my laptop with the ubuntu usb. i pick 'install ubuntu' and after 10 seconds my laptop shutdown.
[20:31] <operaghostkv> did you used xcfe4?
[20:31] <owen1> running 'check disk for errors' now
[20:32] <operaghostkv> any results ?
[20:32] <owen1> it's still checking bunch of files.
[20:32] <owen1> 'no errors found'
[20:32] <owen1> not sure what to do
[20:33] <owen1> what's 'OEM install' ?
[20:33] <operaghostkv> after 10s ..did you see any output during the 10s ?
[20:33] <owen1> i guess i can 'try ubuntu without installing'
[20:33] <owen1> operaghostkv: i can't remember. let me try ubuntu without installing
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> owen1  oem = original equipment manufacturer, iirc
[20:34] <owen1> on no! even 'try without installing' shutdown my laptop.
[20:34] <operaghostkv> or it is just go blank all at sudden
[20:34] <owen1> operaghostkv: i didn't notice any errors on the screen though. let me try again.
[20:34] <Affy> I just installed oracle-java8-installer from webupd8 ppa, but I can't run .jar files. I tried to "run as" oracle web start but it gave an error.
[20:34] <RainMan28> Hi all. I am trying to get the MOTD on ubuntu's latest version to work. I have created a new script in /etc/update-motd.d/ and made it executable. I've waited 10 minutes, and am still not seeing it upon SSH login. I'm authenticating via public key rather than password. Could anyone help? Thanks.
[20:35] <zubuntu> clue_h: i installed dconf
[20:35] <zubuntu> i did what it says in your link
[20:35] <zubuntu> ubuntu-mono-dark chosen
[20:35] <zubuntu> but still there s no option to edit it
[20:35] <clue_h> zubuntu, and it worked? bearing in mind you have to have the theme
[20:35] <clue_h> that is editing it
[20:36] <zubuntu> theme is already in system i guess
[20:36] <clue_h> so you want to change the theme then edit the theme?
[20:36] <owen1> operaghostkv: now it died again, but it took about a minute. the ubuntu purple screen was displayed and than it just died.
[20:36] <zubuntu> what exactly dconf do ?
[20:36] <owen1> no errors on the screen. what a bummer.
[20:36] <trism> RainMan28: can you pastebin the script? and what is the name?
[20:36] <kike_> Good afternoon everybody
[20:37] <owen1> i guess ubuntu is not ready for the masses.
[20:37] <clue_h> zubuntu, it's all the settings pulled from various configs for you to change
[20:37] <Rad-> color me confused. what does vim need gtk and gnome for?
[20:37] <Rad-> http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/vim-gtk
[20:37] <Beldar> owen1, Have you checked the sum of the download?
[20:37] <clue_h> owen1, tends to work more often burning the iso to a cd rom or dvd
[20:37] <ikonia> owen1: guess you're not ready for ubuntu - because YOU can't install it please don't take nonsense about it "not being ready for the masse"
[20:37] <RainMan28> trism: sure, the name of the script is 01-custom-header  pastebin: http://pastebin.com/7421Z9yw
[20:37] <k1l_> Rad-: its vom-gtk
[20:37] <k1l_> *vim
[20:38] <owen1> Beldar: no. great idea.
[20:38] <Rad-> k1l_:  yeah what does vim need gtk for?
[20:38] <Rad-> i'm confused.
[20:38] <k1l_> Rad-: http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/vim
[20:38] <RainMan28> trism: I also tried doing sudo /usr/sbin/update-motd but it says command not found
[20:39] <operaghostkv> owen1: did the power go off .or just the screen which is the power is still up ?
[20:39] <owen1> operaghostkv: power went off
[20:39] <k1l_> Rad-: i bet its some gui-vim. to run as a gui programm and not only in temrinal
[20:39] <Rad-> k1l_:  oh..
[20:39] <ikonia> k1l_: vim-gtk, the old X11 interface
[20:39] <ich> could anyone here answer a kernel question for me?
[20:39] <Rad-> thamls
[20:39] <clue_h> whats the question
[20:40] <Rad-> thanks*
[20:40] <ich> I'm looking into updating my crunchbang install to run one of the newer ubuntu kernels. Could anyone tell me what the difference between 3.13.17 - generic and 3.13.17 - low latency is?
[20:40] <bekks> !crunchbang | ich
[20:40] <owen1> Beldar: checksum is ok
[20:40] <xangua> Inc`: only ubuntu and official derivates are supported here
[20:40] <xubuntu> hi
[20:40] <trism> RainMan28: yeah it will be automatically run at login by pam-motd, and the script looks fine, if you, say, create/append to /etc/motd.tail, does that show up? maybe the scripts aren't being executed at all
[20:40] <bekks> owen1: how did you check the checksum?
[20:40] <ich> I'm not looking for help in the process. I know how to do it. I'm just asking what the difference is between the two kernels
[20:40] <trism> RainMan28: assuming you have the 99-footer still there
[20:40] <Rad-> ich: i'm guessing one is low latency......
[20:41] <Guest47450> hey guys
[20:41] <RainMan28> trism: yes, I still have the 99-footer. I have usePAM no in my sshd_config, should I set that to yes?
[20:41] <ikonia> ich: you are looking for help - hence why you are asking for help, please take it to #crunchbang where I have responded to your question to help you
[20:41] <operaghostkv> looks like it is the problem of power manage driver .it should be ok if you turn it off
[20:41] <Beldar> owen1, So this a unetbootin loaded usb or using the startup disc creator in ubuntu?
[20:41] <trism> RainMan28: yeah that is probably your problem then
[20:41] <owen1> bekks: md5sum ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso => 21ec41563ff34da27d4a0b56f2680c4f
[20:42] <bekks> operaghostkv: we dont know anything about the reason.
[20:42] <owen1> Beldar: i used unetbootin
[20:42] <RainMan28> trism: ok I see. Someone had told me to set that to no because I'm authenticating via public key vs password
[20:42] <RainMan28> trism: just changed it back to yes. Is there any way to manually update the cronjob for motd?
[20:43] <owen1> Beldar: i can try disk creator if u think it matters
[20:43] <trism> RainMan28: it should execute everytime you log in
[20:43] <RainMan28> trism: hmm I just stopped and restarted SSH service, then tried logging in. Now I remember why someone told me to turn off usePAM. I'm now seeing the custom script but its printing two MOTDs
[20:43] <trism> RainMan28: some stuff like updates-available can get stale, but that is only because they are cached
[20:44] <Beldar> owen1, I would try it yeah, in the end I have seen usb loaders fail on occasion, and iso's with a good sum not work, not ofyen, but it happens.
[20:44] <bekks> owen1: you could try booting without "quiet splash" as boot options.
[20:44] <owen1> bekks: great. how do i do that?
[20:44] <trism> RainMan28: that's weird, I use ssh with public keys just fine
[20:44] <kike_> does someone know how can i mount (from fstab) the windows 8 partition in Read Only. It's cause I don't wat to use the 'remove_hiberfile' to gain write access
[20:45] <RainMan28> trism: hmm so if i do usePAM yes and PrintMOTD no then I only have it show once
[20:45] <bekks> owen1: by removing the named options in the boot menu entry prior booting that entry.
[20:45] <trism> RainMan28: ah nice
[20:45] <RainMan28> RainMan28: i haven't done anything to the stock install besides update it and also install update-motd
[20:45] <owen1> bekks: i am not following you. i insert the usb, boot my  laptop. what's next?
[20:45] <bekks> kike_: you have to remove that hiberfile before being able to mount it.
[20:46] <bekks> owen1: you insert the usb. in the boot menu, remove the named options. then boot.
[20:46] <owen1> bekks: if there is a text-based install, it would be awesome, btw.
[20:46] <bekks> owen1: you can use the server install iso for a text install.
[20:46] <kike_> bekks, I can mount it now without doing that using the -r of the mount command
[20:46] <owen1> bekks: let me boot my laptop again.
[20:46] <kike_> i was wondwering i there is something like -r to write in fstab
[20:47] <ikonia> like -r ?
[20:47] <kike_> or am i wrong?
[20:47] <trism> RainMan28: ahh the update-motd is what is messing you up: The functionality formerly provided by this package is now integrated into pam_motd, in libpam-modules.
[20:47] <zubuntu> i want like this : http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.com.tr/2012/09/how-to-make-desktop-icons-text.html
[20:47] <ikonia> kike_: what do you mean ?
[20:47] <bekks> kike_: "ro".
[20:47] <RainMan28> trism: should i remove update-motd ?
[20:47] <owen1> bekks: should i hit 'e' to edit the commmands?
[20:47] <operaghostkv> turn
[20:47] <bekks> owen1: that for editing, yes.
[20:47] <operaghostkv> he y
[20:48] <kike_> bekks, i'll try ro the.  ikonia, trying to mount the windows disk on boot time. but in read only.
[20:48] <owen1> bekks: ok. i see quiet splash --
[20:48] <ikonia> the ntfs driver on it's own is ready only, or as you've been told "ro" (read only) is the mount option
[20:48] <operaghostkv> turn of acpi and try again ?owen
[20:49] <kike_> i think i dont really understand at all how or what fstab does
[20:49] <owen1> operaghostkv: one sec. i remove 'quiet splash'
[20:49] <kike_> commands if fstab are used for mount at boot time? or is it other command?
[20:49] <owen1> operaghostkv: if it fails i'll try acpi stuff.
[20:50] <owen1> bekks: i removed those 2 words, hit f10 and it crashed.
[20:50] <owen1> operaghostkv: plan b - how do i turn off acpi
[20:50] <bekks> owen1: And you didnt remember the screen content I guess?
[20:50] <kike_> By the way. Xubuntu + SSD disk. Really amazing. less than 3 seconds booting
[20:51] <ikonia> who cares about boot time
[20:51] <ikonia> in some ways that can be a very bad thing
[20:51] <owen1> bekks: not sure what u'r asking
[20:51] <RainMan28> all about uptime AMIRITE
[20:51] <kike_> ok. less than half a secong launching gimp :)
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> !fstab | kike_ do some reading here
[20:51] <ikonia> kike_: again that is very unlikley
[20:51] <toZen> kike_: what???
[20:51] <ikonia> kike_: as it takes longer than  second to load the plugins from RAM - so less than .5 of a second from disk, its just lies
[20:51] <operaghostkv> add acpi=off
[20:51] <bekks> owen1: actually "it crashed" means nothing valuable. try to remember what was on the screen when it crashed.
[20:51] <trism> RainMan28: yeah I think it would be a good idea
[20:52] <owen1> operaghostkv: acpi=off at the end of that line?
[20:52] <kike_> ikonia, ok then. as you wish.
[20:52] <operaghostkv> google it i dont remember exactly
[20:52] <kike_> MonkeyDust, thanks, will read it!
[20:52] <bekks> owen1: before the --
[20:52] <owen1> bekks: thanks
[20:52] <RainMan28> trism: ok removed it, usePAM yes , PrintMotd no
[20:52] <RainMan28> trism: still working perfectly
[20:54] <owen1> bekks: operaghostkv ubuntu purple screen with dots. looks promising
[20:54] <owen1> the dots are changing so it's a good sign
[20:54] <bekks> owen1: it isnt.
[20:54] <operaghostkv> is your laptop dell ?
[20:55] <owen1> thinkpad x120e
[20:55] <bekks> owen1: dots changing indicate nothing, in fact.
[20:55] <owen1> got on error!
[20:55] <owen1> busybox bla bla bla.
[20:55] <bekks> owen1: In fact, that "bla bla bla" is important.
[20:55] <owen1> (initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[20:56] <YokoBR> guys, i've installed fglrx on my dell inspiron 14r 3250 n4110 but still can't enable the discrete gpu
[20:56] <bekks> owen1: so your usb medium is broken. you cannot use it for installing anything.
[20:56] <bekks> owen1: you should recreate it.
[20:56] <owen1> bekks: ok. different usb or use usb-creator-gtk instead of unetbootin?
[20:57] <bekks> !usb | owen1
[20:58] <kike_> ubottu, thanks for the link. I didn't knew i can mount net folders like that.
[20:58] <owen1> bekks: reading your links. thanks
[20:58] <apb1963> I'm trying to filter out syslog messages....  I wrote a simple filter:
[20:58] <apb1963> if $programname == 'dhclient3' then /var/log/dhclient.log
[20:58] <kike_> MonkeyDust then lol  thanks for the link. I didn't knew i can mount net folders like that.
[20:58] <apb1963> & ~
[20:59] <bekks> apb1963: Are you aware of the fact that syslog provides the facility to log differents events from differents programs into different files?
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> kike_  we're here to learn
[20:59] <owen1> do i need to run usb-creator-gtk as sudoL
[20:59] <owen1> ?
[20:59] <apb1963> but it doesn't do what I want..... which is to say send dhclient messages to the other log, but not to syslog.
[21:00] <bekks> owen1: I bet thats mentioned in the links given
[21:00] <apb1963> bekks: I was under the impression that's what I was attempting to do.  Am I wrong?
[21:00] <bekks> apb1963: you are wrong. you just gave us a code snippet, without any context.
[21:01] <bekks> apb1963: what does your syslog config look like?
[21:01] <alexandre> hai
[21:02] <apb1963> bekks: 639 ms lag time... just so you know.
[21:02] <apb1963> bekks: Here's what's in my /etc/rsyslog.d/my_dhclient.conf file:
[21:02] <operaghostkv> recreat it would change anything
[21:02] <apb1963> if $programname == 'dhclient3' then /var/log/dhclient.log
[21:02] <apb1963> & ~
[21:03] <bekks> apb1963: whats the entire config, not just a single line.
[21:03] <apb1963> bekks: That's the entire file.
[21:04] <bekks> apb1963: So the rest of the rsyslog config is empty?
[21:04] <NEone> Hi. Got a notebook with hybrid graphics. Win7 as host system, Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS 64-bit as guest system. How do I tell the Ubuntu guest to use the better Nvidia GPU instead of the simple IntelHD onboard GPU? I want to use openGL and I can't.
[21:05] <k1l_> NEone: make sure windows can give the Vm that card
[21:06] <apb1963> Here's my /etc/rsyslog.conf http://ix.io/bky
[21:06] <NEone> How? I googled the whole internet and re-built the VM several times. I'm out of luck:(
[21:07] <bekks> !optimus | NEone
[21:07] <apb1963> bekks: and my /etc/rsyslog.d/050-default.conf http://ix.io/bkx
[21:07] <bekks> NEone: Inside a vm, you do not use nvidia or intel. you use whatever your virtualization software offers you.
[21:08] <JimmyRustles> NEone,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/23238/how-can-i-find-what-video-driver-is-in-use-on-my-system
[21:08] <apb1963> bekks: Here's my /etc/rsyslog.conf http://ix.io/bky
[21:11] <kike_> is it ok if one hard drive has UUID="2518a0df-9c28-4bbb-a07d-d62b30ccf00a"  and in other disk it's UUID="70B6E4DBB6E4A338"
[21:11] <bekks> kike_: UUIDs are irrelevant, as long as they are different.
[21:11] <kike_> looks different numbers, first is much longer... looks strange to me
[21:12] <bekks> kike_: totally irrelevant, in fact.
[21:12] <chndn> how to install third party software in ubuntu 13.10
[21:12] <kike_> bekks, thanks ok. :)
[21:12] <owen1> i am trying to use usb-creator-gtk but from some reason it tells my my usb is full eventhough i manually deleted it's content.
[21:12] <chndn> i m a beginner
[21:12] <owen1> what is going on?
[21:12] <apb1963> bekks: Had to restart Konversation, was running like a snail.  A little better now.  I missed any response you might have given.
[21:13] <chndn> heyy
[21:13] <owen1> and if hitting the 'erase' button tell me: 'org.freedesktop.UDisks.Error.Busy: There is already a job running'
[21:13] <chndn> somebody please help me
[21:13] <owen1> so i am lost
[21:13] <k1l_> chndn: which software?
[21:14] <chndn> my dongle drivers...
[21:14] <chndn> airtel
[21:14] <k1l_> erm, is it a 3g dongle?
[21:14] <k1l_> do they ship linux/ubuntu software packages
[21:14] <chndn> yup...
[21:15] <chndn> ya
[21:15] <chndn> they do
[21:15] <k1l_> most times you dont need 3rd party software for dongles
[21:15] <k1l_> insert the dongle and look up the usbid in lsusb
[21:15] <chndn> i dont knw much in ubuntu
[21:16] <chndn> wait
[21:16] <chndn> ok
[21:16] <chndn> in the terminal window right
[21:17] <k1l_> yes
[21:17] <kike_> Ok. i think I'm gonna try this "UUID=70B6E4DBB6E4A338 /media/windows8/ ntfs-3g defaults,ro,errors=remount-ro,noatime 0 1"
[21:18] <kike_> I hope I can boot it again ...
[21:19] <chndn> i can see the usb id now
[21:19] <chndn> wat nxt?
[21:19] <k1l_> tell it here please
[21:19] <ole__> nick ole_oz6oh
[21:20] <RainMan28> how safe is an ubuntu vanilla install with ssh on port 23, facing the internet? I have ssh set to PermitRootLogin no and am logging in via public-key only
[21:20] <chndn> bus 001 device 018: id 19d2:1254
[21:20] <chndn> zte wcdma technologies msm
[21:21] <ole__> nick ole_oz6oh
[21:21] <k1l_> chndn: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1822933
[21:21] <oliver_> Is there a simply way of creating a dfs in linux? Possibly through a gui?
[21:21] <k1l_> ole__: make a / in front
[21:22] <chndn> ok
[21:22] <ole_oz6oh> hello from ole in denmark running with ubuntu 13.10
[21:23] <ole_oz6oh> k1l  thanks
[21:24] <Sanka9> Quick question. Just installed 12.04.4, was using 12.04.3 I believe, the latest distro which uses the precise kernel stack.  My radeon card is ati 5770 juniper. I am curious as to why I am booting into unity 2d. Also, I did the install with two monitors, and both only work when 1 is turned off.  Almost as if it is seen as only one, though its technically detecting and showing two monitors in the system settings 'display', and xra
[21:24] <Sanka9> ndr.  Though different problems, I feel they are likely related to the same thing. The radeon driver. The original precise kernel stack worked beautifully with my radeon, I honestly didnt know that they did LTS hardware enablement and split the distro versioning
[21:25] <Sanka9> Any help is kindly appreciated. Thanks in avanced.
[21:25] <Sanka9> ole_oz6oh, hello!
[21:25] <oliver_> How can i create a shared file system?
[21:25] <ole_oz6oh> sanka9 hello
[21:25] <xar-> RainMan28: port 23 is unusual, but fine, usually I choose 2222 or 22222. If you're public/private key pair auth, you should disable password auth entirely in your sshd config.
[21:26] <Sanka9> ole_oz6oh, hopefully your having better luck with 13.10 than I did, lol!
[21:26] <zepman> hello
[21:26] <ole_oz6oh> sanka9  all is very good running here but ubuntu 14.04 is not good
[21:26] <Sanka9> oliver_, shared filesystem? NFS? Multipath? Distributed?
[21:27] <Sanka9> ole_oz6oh, hahahaha, I feel ya. Are you running radeon?
[21:27] <zepman> anyone can tell me where is the folder with the "start menu" in lubuntu?
[21:27] <ole_oz6oh> sanka no thats an del computer
[21:27] <oliver_> I need 350gb of space, but i only have 250gb hard drives - i think for windows its dfs?
[21:27] <ole_oz6oh> sanka9 a dell
[21:28] <Sanka9> zepman, what windows manager does ubuntu use? is it like fluxbox, or something like lxde?
[21:28] <zepman> lxde
[21:28] <Sanka9> ole_oz6oh, Same here.
[21:28] <owen1> i am trying to delete files from my usb drive and get wubi.exe’: Read-only file syste
[21:28] <Beldar> ole_oz6oh, You can tab complete nicks to get them correct.
[21:28] <Sanka9> ole_oz6oh, do you have a radeon driver?
[21:28] <owen1> (many files)
[21:28] <ole_oz6oh> sanka9 and i can run windowsn7 virtuel  very good also
[21:28] <owen1> even when i try to use sudo rm -r * i get this message
[21:28] <RainMan28> xar-: how can i completely remove password authentication?
[21:29] <YokoBR> guys, please, i've installed fglrx with sudo apt-get install fglrx but i can't enable the discrete driver....
[21:29] <Sanka9> owen1, you need to change the mount options, mount -o r,rw
[21:29] <owen1> Sanka9: let me try
[21:29] <ole_oz6oh> sanka9 i don't no my drivers name
[21:29] <k1l_> YokoBR: ?
[21:29] <k1l_> YokoBR: did you reboot?
[21:29] <oliver_> I found gfs... But i don't know if i can set it up for local hard drives..
[21:29] <Sanka9> owen1, you need to remount it manually via th ecommand line, you can use nautilus to unmount it.
[21:29] <YokoBR> k1l_ yep
[21:29] <RainMan28> xar-: is it just setting PasswordAuthentication to no?
[21:29] <zepman> i'd like to add an app installed with playonlinux, i got an icon on the desktop but not in the start menu
[21:29] <k1l_> and what is the issue now YokoBR ?
[21:29] <ole_oz6oh> sanka9 something with pci in terminal ??
[21:30] <Sanka9> ole_oz6oh, just for shits and giggles, can you run an 'lsmod|grep radeon' in your terminal?
[21:30] <Beldar> ugh
[21:30] <ole_oz6oh> sanka moment
[21:30] <rww> RainMan28: correct
[21:31] <Helena222> can somebody help me to install Ubuntu along Windows plus another partition? I need one partition for my music and etc and I the system says I can't create more than 3 primary ones
[21:31] <Sanka9> ole_oz6oh, nah, just do the one I wrote, the lspci .... shows VGA/etc... for detecting what type of radeon driver.
[21:31] <Beldar> Helena222, You on the live cd/usb now?
[21:32] <ole_oz6oh> sanka9 00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01)
[21:32] <ole_oz6oh> 00:1d.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01)
[21:32] <ole_oz6oh> 00:1d.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01)
[21:32] <ole_oz6oh> 00:1d.3 USB controller: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 01)
[21:32] <ole_oz6oh> 00:1d.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
[21:32] <ole_oz6oh> 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev e1)
[21:32] <unopaste`> ole_oz6oh you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[21:32] <ole_oz6oh> 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[21:32] <ole_oz6oh> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01)
[21:32] <ole_oz6oh> 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller (rev 01)
[21:32] <unopaste`> ole_oz6oh you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[21:32] <ole_oz6oh> 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 01)
[21:32] <ole_oz6oh> 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family SMBus Controller (rev 01)
[21:32] <ole_oz6oh> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5751 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 01)
[21:33] <Helena222> Hi thanks Beldar, no,I have Ubuntu and WIndows 8 installed together but need to make room for another NTFS partition to put my stuff
[21:33] <owen1> Sanka9: i use this script to mount - sudo mount /dev/$1 /media/usb/ -o r,rw uid=1000,gid=1000
[21:33] <owen1> but i get the same read only error
[21:33] <owen1> (the $1) is the argument i pass after observig dmesg
[21:33] <YokoBR> i've also tried this http://rudrageek.com/linux-now-supports-hybrid-graphics-systems-ubuntu-13-10/
[21:33] <daftykins> k1l_: was that manual or auto 0o
[21:33] <Sanka9> owen1, werrrrrd, interesting. Let me check something, because I Know I was vague.
[21:33] <YokoBR> but i can't run amdcccle
[21:34] <Helena222> My Ubuntu installtion took the whole disk left (130 GB) and I want to reduce it to 20GB and make the other 100GB for NTFS and my stuff
[21:34] <k1l_> Helena222: you can only crate 4 primary ones. but you can make one of that primary ones an extended and put several other secondary partitions in that
[21:34] <Beldar> Helena222, The ubuntu install made a extended, on a singke HD 3 primaries and a extended is the limit. However you can pile in logical partition in the extended, ntfs are fine.
[21:34] <antar> Hi folks
[21:35] <Helena222> thanks a lot k1 & Beldar, please let me try to follow you and read it calm
[21:35] <Beldar> Helena222, It would be helpful if we could see your HD set up from ubuntu.
[21:35] <Helena222> how? (Beldar)
[21:35] <antar> Could you please tell me how can i get the ubuntu menu toolbar, i tried to use the JMenubar in swing but i got a class menu bar ?
[21:35] <antar> i got a classic*
[21:36] <Beldar> Helena222, A live cd/usb would be easiest as we can possibly do it all from there. Without an accurate read we are really guessing.
[21:36] <siwica> On my laptop I can only access the F-Keys (F1, F2, ..., F12) by pressing the Fn-Key at the same time since they are by default occupied by some multimedia keys (mute, turn volume higher, ...). What would be the way to reverse the default behaviour and have the F-Keys working without pressing the Fn-Key and to use the latter for accessing the multimedia-keys?
[21:37] <Sanka9> owen1, do the same thing, just add mount /dev/sd[*] -type vfat -o r,rw /mountpoint(I just use media)
[21:37] <Helena222> what I have now is 1-Small 350MB NTFS for W8 (Primary) 2-WIndows8 30GB NTFS (Primary) - 3-Ubuntu in 130GB ext4 (Primary) and 4- 1GB for Swap
[21:37] <YokoBR> please, nobody using hybrid graphics?
[21:37] <Sanka9> owen1, that wasn't clear, add -type vfat to the mount command, the rest of it was just as an example
[21:37] <oliver_> How can i setup a distributed file system -- on local hard drives?
[21:38] <antar> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/figures/uiswing/components/MenuLookDemo.png, instead of this i want to get a ubuntu like menu tool bar ?
[21:38] <Beldar> Helena222, nice description, however I want to see each partitions size and where on the disc they are and what type of partition, this is done from a live cd/usb
[21:38] <Sanka9> oliver_, Now I get what your saying. Thats a little tricky, do you have a domain setup? I just  personally use clouds.
[21:38] <Beldar> Helena222, Anyway best of luck.
[21:39] <oliver_> Its all on the same server, four hard drives. I just need them to sort of share the files around...?
[21:39] <oliver_> But be in the same folder.
[21:39] <Sanka9> Oliver_, but short story get a domain name if you don't have it(unless your talking within the network on a NAT), and then setup and configure hadoop. But there are free cloud accounts you can get that allow you to use them.
[21:39] <Sanka9> oliver_, Oh
[21:40] <jmadero> anyone around running Gnome Shell DE who uses ibus? I can't get the icon to appear
[21:40] <Beldar> Helena222, They key is, is the ubuntu install in the extended or just the swap.
[21:40] <Sanka9> oliver_, totally different, you want LVM I think, you want all the different drives as one
[21:40] <jmadero> so I can't switch languages or keyboard layouts
[21:40] <Helena222> Beldar amillion thanks I am really unexperienced and first time in this chat, can you please helo me a bit more? I can start the live USB if you wish
[21:40] <oliver_> Yes, thats it!
[21:40] <Sanka9> oliver_, Look into LVM2, do you have RAID? If so what level?
[21:40] <owen1> Sanka9: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 -type vfat -o r,rw /media/usb
[21:41] <owen1> it's wrong usage
[21:41] <Sanka9> owen1, really?
[21:41] <Beldar> Helena222, If ubuntu is in the swap it can be resized and a ntfs put in, however I suspect the ubuntu is a primary, and the swap is in the extended.
[21:41] <owen1> that's what the it tells me
[21:41] <oliver_> I don't think i have raid, if i do i dont use it. If i use lvm, will i have to install ubuntu again?
[21:41] <Sanka9> owen1, shit your right, it should be -t
[21:41] <owen1> ok
[21:41] <Beldar> Helena222, Sorry not ubuntu in the swap , but in a extended partition, sorry
[21:42] <Sanka9> owen1, from now on I will put exactly in, my apologies.
[21:42] <owen1> Sanka9: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, ....
[21:42] <Helena222> Beldar just a second please I am checking and I am very stressed in this chat, can we talk in the private window I opened to you? I am checking with Gparted tright now
[21:43] <daftykins> sudo mkdir -p /media/usb && sudo mount /dev/sdb1 -t vfat -o rw /media/usb
[21:43] <Sanka9> Oliver_, thats fine. Here is a link, your going to have to perhaps install LVM, and then I'll send you a link to get you started
[21:43] <Beldar> Helena222, I have PM off, the channel is whee we want to do this. If you have gparted on the live take a screen shot and imagebin it.
[21:43] <Beldar> where*
[21:44] <Helena222> Beldar how can I send these messages with your name first?
[21:44] <Beldar> !tab | Helena222
[21:44] <Sanka9> owen1, Beldar is right, but you might have to do a filesystem check first perhaps.
[21:45] <Beldar> Helena222, You have been using my nick here, is that what you meant?
[21:45] <oliver_> Lvm installed, as well as watershed.. I think i found something that will keep me going till i get stuck, thank you very much!
[21:46] <Helena222> I am very sorry I am totally unexperienced, I can't make it work with thte tab key to speak directly to someone... is it OK if I just write yoiur name first?
[21:46] <Beldar> Helena222, Certainly.
[21:46] <Helena222> I am taking a screenshot and sending it to imgur, is it ok?
[21:46] <Beldar> Helena222, Yeah, just post the url.
[21:47] <Helena222> ok thanks please hold I will do it asap
[21:47] <Beldar> no prob I'm just hanging out. Helena222
[21:47] <apb1963> I'm trying to filter out syslog messages....   I wrote a simple filter and put it in   /etc/rsyslog.d/my_dhclient.conf .  The entire contents of the file:  if $programname == 'dhclient3' then /var/log/dhclient.log  &~  but it doesn't do what I want..... which is to say send dhclient messages to the other log, but not to syslog.
[21:47] <Sanka9> oliver_, werrrd good to go, just remember it will look very different in fdisk output, and when installing a new system, and using ubuntu you'll have to have an alternate install cd if below 12.10 I believe, as the installers must have support for LVM creation.  The new Ubuntu distros however have it.
[21:48] <Frani> hi
[21:49] <harushimo> what version of qt is on the ubuntu repostories? Is it 5.2?
[21:49] <Sanka9> oliver_, I haven't heard of watershed. before.
[21:49] <oliver_> Sank9 it installed it with lvm2
[21:49] <oliver_> *Sanka9
[21:50] <Sanka9> owen1, if it didn't work, permission wise, try remounting into a directory you have permission for i.e. ~/home directory, and or do a 'chown -R yourname:yourgroup /media/usbstick'
[21:50] <xangua> harushimo: 5.1 on Ubuntu 13.10 I believe
[21:50] <Helena222> Beldar the URL for the screenshot is http://i.imgur.com/OlssLbs.png pleasetell me if it worked
[21:51] <Sanka9> oliver_, oh ok.
[21:52] <harushimo> I have 12.04 LTS. I was thinking going to QT site to get 5.2?
[21:52] <Beldar> Helena222, right click the swap and then unmount
[21:53] <Frani> where can i download Intel HD Grapgics 4400 Driver ?
[21:53] <Beldar> actually it's swap of Helena222
[21:53] <Beldar> off*
[21:53] <RainMan28> is renewing a DHCP IP address on ubuntu done by doing ifdown eth0 and then ifup eth0 ?
[21:53] <ikonia> no
[21:53] <ikonia> it's controlled by dhclient
[21:53] <ikonia> (which for most is controlled by network manager)
[21:53] <RainMan28> how can I renew it?
[21:54] <ikonia> it will do it automatically
[21:54] <RainMan28> or refresh it
[21:54] <RainMan28> i want to do it manually
[21:54] <ikonia> why ?
[21:54] <Sanka9> Does anyone run above 12.04.3, with radeon kms successfully?  Also, though not as important is it running the radeon driver with a juniper card(I have a 5770)?
[21:54] <ikonia> the purpose is for it ot be run automatically
[21:54] <RainMan28> because i changed it to a different IP at the router
[21:54] <Helena222> Beldar thanks the only option is to deactivate (swap partition), but not unmount. Is that the same? (unmount and deactivate?)
[21:54] <ikonia> RainMan28: how are you mapping machine->ip ?
[21:54] <RainMan28> mac address
[21:55] <ikonia> RainMan28: so if you log out and back in, network manager will re-request it's ip
[21:55] <Sanka9> RainMan28, it depends on the version your running there were recent changes
[21:55] <Beldar> Helena222, Swap off is what we want, so the keys you see in gparted next to some partitions are gone.
[21:55] <RainMan28> running the latest version
[21:56] <ikonia> RainMan28: just log out/back in,
[21:56] <RainMan28> can i do sudo dhclient -r eth0
[21:56] <ikonia> RainMan28: network manager will re-request it
[21:56] <ikonia> RainMan28: not wise to fight with network manager
[21:56] <Helena222> Beldar please hold on I will check
[21:56] <RainMan28> ikonia: if i'm only connected via ssh, do i have to close the connection and re-open it?
[21:56] <Sanka9> RainMan28, newer distros run resolv.conf, which is controlled by a dnsmasq network manager dnsmasq plug-in. For more secure proxying, and VPN
[21:56] <Beldar> Helena222, Another screenshot would make me feel better.
[21:56] <ikonia> RainMan28: is this a desktop you're on ?
[21:57] <Helena222> Beldar OK I "deactivated swapping" and now I have many other options in the swap partition
[21:57] <ikonia> Sanka9: what does that have to do with dhclient
[21:57] <RainMan28> ikonia: running latest ubuntu desktop yes, but only connecting to it via SSH terminal
[21:57] <ikonia> RainMan28: ok, can you access the desktop ?
[21:57] <Sanka9> ikonia, it wouldn't be handling dns-related items.
[21:57] <RainMan28> i suppose I could RDP into it
[21:57] <ikonia> Sanka9: he didn't ask for dns - he asked how to release and renew it
[21:57] <RainMan28> or i could connect a monitor to it
[21:58] <ikonia> RainMan28: the reason I'm saying this is fighting for control of the network card with network manager isn't a good idea
[21:58] <Beldar> Helena222, another screenshot so I'm sure we are the same?
[21:58] <Helena222> Beldar still the context menu is in Spanish... maybe you won't understand the menu in the screenshot
[21:58] <ikonia> RainMan28: if you're using network manager, try to use it
[21:58] <freijon> hey guys. I've updated to ubuntu gnome 14.04 via update-manager (last time I did that). during the upgrade my screen turned black. after a few hours I turned the computer off. I finished the upgrade with apt-get dist-upgrade. now everything is installed but I get a black screen after booting the system. I tried everything I know and I'm out of ideas. any advice would be much appreciated!
[21:58] <owen1> when opening usb-creator-gdk, does it matter if i use sudo or gksudo?
[21:58] <Beldar> Helena222, I am not looking for a context window
[21:58] <daftykins> freijon: #ubuntu+1 for unreleased versions
[21:58] <crowell> hi I have an issue with graphical glitches, which is apparently related to this this bug https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers/
[21:58] <RainMan28> ikonia: i dont think i'm using network manager
[21:58] <ikonia> RainMan28: why do you not think you are using that ?
[21:58] <ikonia> RainMan28: it is the default network utility on ubuntu desktop
[21:59] <crowell> an example of my problem is here http://i.imgur.com/bWYkXqZ.png
[21:59] <RainMan28> then why are you asking if i'm using it ikonia
[21:59] <ikonia> RainMan28: because not everyone is
[21:59] <ikonia> RainMan28: some people disable and over ride it
[21:59] <xar-> freijon: issues with the 14.04 beta should be routed to #ubuntu+1 channel
[21:59] <RainMan28> i'm just logging in via ssh, i've made no changes, its a vanilla install, i just want to renew the IP
[21:59] <ikonia> RainMan28: ok, so it's using network manager on the desktop
[21:59] <oddant> http://degenne-valentin.com/enquiry
[21:59] <ikonia> RainMan28: the best way to do it would be to log out of the desktop and back in so network manager re-requests the IP
[21:59] <Helena222> Beldar just a sec
[22:00] <Sanka9> ikonia, if dhclient is now handling the dns, then it won't release it, if resolv.conf is being used, its over-written by another program. From what I understand though, if its an older distro it would be using that.  But if other software handles dns, then its different, because dhclient wouldn't be handling the dns releases/etc...
[22:00] <RainMan28> ikonia: when you say desktop, do you mean the GUI, or the machine itself?
[22:00] <ikonia> Sanka9: he's not asking about dns.....
[22:00] <oliver_> How can i fix "Device /dev/sdd1 not found (or ignored by filtering)"
[22:00] <Helena222> Beldar the screenshot URL in imgur is http://i.imgur.com/Cyg2mCG.png
[22:00] <ikonia> RainMan28: network manager is launched on login for you
[22:00] <ikonia> RainMan28: the gui
[22:00] <RainMan28> ikonia: ok i'm not accessing the gui
[22:00] <ikonia> oliver_: plug the disk in
[22:01] <RainMan28> i'm just using putty to ssh into the machine
[22:01] <ikonia> RainMan28: right, but it must have the desktop enabled....
[22:01] <oliver_> Well i can't unplug it..?
[22:01] <Beldar> Helena222, You booted to the install or on a live cd/usb?
[22:01] <Sanka9> RainMan28, you want to set up your network?
[22:01] <Helena222> Beldar I am in the installed Ubuntu, should I boot from the USB and repeat the screenshot?
[22:02] <Sanka9> RainMan28, your trying to get an ip? If you are, I couldn't get network-manager to do it via command line, I had to add the settings manually to the /etc/network/interfaces, and then do a /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:02] <oliver_> Oh fixed it. Woah!
[22:02] <ikonia> Sanka9: that is not what he asked
[22:02] <ikonia> Sanka9: please stop putting terrible information forward
[22:02] <Beldar> Helena222, That's what we want, boot it open gparted and repeat that swap of and take another scren shot. From there we can shrink ubuntu and make a ntfs.
[22:03] <RainMan28> Sanka9: i had my machine's ip set to 192.168.1.130 a few mins ago. I set it to a static dhcp assign of 192.168.1.10 in my router and now just want the machine to pick up the new IP
[22:03] <Beldar> off*
[22:03] <Sanka9> ikonia, you thought he could get into the desktop graphical environment from ssh, hahaahaha
[22:03] <ikonia> Sanka9: no I didn't say that at all, if you're trying to mock, at least have the information straight, rather than looking silly
[22:03] <oddant> i made this page for univ enquiry on programmers' life, i'm gonna make some pies and charts at the end, can you take 1 minute of your time filling this up ? http://degenne-valentin.com/enquiry
[22:03] <Helena222> Beldar, OK please wait some minutes, it is a slow old laptop and will take some time, if you are so kind, a million thanks, I'll be back
[22:03] <ikonia> RainMan28: does the dekstop have the gui enabled, yes/no
[22:03] <RainMan28> ikonia: yes
[22:04] <ikonia> RainMan28: ok, did you log into the desktop at any point before you removed the monitor ?
[22:04] <Sanka9> RainMan28, I feel ya, that is handled just as I said it, if your routers handling the dhcp lease. By default its network-manager plugin dnsmasq.
[22:04] <Beldar> Helena222, You are doing fine, this is not stuff one knows till they do it a few times. ;)
[22:04] <FuuqUmiist> hey, how do you enable guest session when using the GDM display manager
[22:04] <RainMan28> ikonia: no I don't believe so
[22:04] <Helena222> Beldar, indeed... many thanks for your patience and help
[22:04] <ikonia> RainMan28: ok, so you've never logged into the desktop,
[22:04] <RainMan28> ikonia: correct
[22:04] <owen1> is there a difference between running usb-creator-gdk as sudo vs running as gksudo? if there is, what is it and what kind of password is gksudo using? it tells me it's not my password.
[22:05] <Helena222> Beldar, I am on two computers at the same time and getting very stressed, lol
[22:05] <ikonia> RainMan28: so you have two options 1.) stop/start network manager via upstart 2.) give it a little time and wait for the lease to expire and network manager will refresh it
[22:05] <k1l_> owen1: dont run GUI programs with sudo
[22:05] <owen1> k1l_: ok. so what is the password that gksudo ask me? it's not letting me in.
[22:05] <ikonia> RainMan28: you can of course do as you've said manually running things like dhclient, however fighting with network manager will not give you sane results
[22:05] <k1l_> owen1: its the users pw
[22:06] <Guest60428> !list
[22:06] <RainMan28> ikonia: yeah I think i'm locked out at the moment. I did sudo dhclient -r etho and now can't login to the old IP or the new one
[22:06] <RainMan28> eth0*
[22:06] <owen1> k1l_: ok. got it
[22:06] <ikonia> RainMan28: I did warn you not to do that
[22:07] <RainMan28> I dont think I asked you about that one ikonia, I think I ran the ifdown eth0 / ifup eth0 one by you
[22:07] <ikonia> RainMan28: I told you not to run dhclient manually
[22:07] <Beldar> Helena222, You're in good shape to this this the HD is fine and we can do what you need. I assume the ntfs you need is just for data, stuff...etc.
[22:07] <xar-> RainMan28: why do you need to change the IP? what's the end goal here?
[22:08] <RainMan28> xar-: I have certain machines assigned via DHCP to static IPs in a certain range of the DHCP pool and wanted to change this machine to be in line with that setup
[22:08] <ikonia> RainMan28: you may get lucky as you've only done an -r network manager may / should get a new IP the next time it probes
[22:09] <RainMan28> yeah, I guess I will wait a while
[22:09] <xar-> interesting.
[22:09] <RainMan28> leases are 24 hours though, may get impatient and just plugin a monitor and keyboard/mouse
[22:09] <ikonia> RainMan28: just bounce the box
[22:09] <xar-> or KVM / IPMI
[22:09] <Helena222> Beldar, yes, I want a NTFS partition to store all my stuff safely apart from the W8 & Ubuntu partitions
[22:09] <RainMan28> ikonia: bounce as in power cycle?
[22:09] <ikonia> RainMan28: yup
[22:10] <ikonia> (or plug in the cable as you said earlier)
[22:10] <Helena222> Beldar the screenshot taken from the Live USB is http://i.imgur.com/jiMEZeN.png
[22:10] <RainMan28> ikonia: ok, any idea how often network manager probes
[22:11] <ikonia> RainMan28: no idea, it's normally quite often (say 15 minutes) but it depends the state of the lease file
[22:11] <RainMan28> ikonia: would I have been better off doing /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:11] <Beldar> Helena222, Cool, so right click the swap, and swap off we want the keys next to sda3 and sda6 to be gone.
[22:11] <ikonia> RainMan28: I don't know (I don't think) that covers network managers config
[22:11] <ikonia> RainMan28: that just downs/ups the networking stack
[22:12] <ikonia> RainMan28: I'd have to check the upstart script to confirm that
[22:12] <Helena222> Beldar, I swapped off
[22:12] <Beldar> Helena222, The keys icons are gone at sda3 and sda6?
[22:13] <Helena222> Beldar, please hold
[22:13] <Helena222> Beldar, yes, the key icons are gone from all of them (from all partitions)
[22:15] <RainMan28> ikonia: sweet, unplugging the ethernet cable and plugging it back in worked. switched to new IP
[22:15] <ikonia> RainMan28: ahhh good thinking
[22:15] <Beldar> Helena222, Cool, you can right click on sda5 (the ubuntu install) and then resize/move and drag the slider from the right side to the left to the size you want, this will take awhile to run.
[22:16] <Helena222> Beldar, OK I will do that and come back, (THANKSSSSS)
[22:17] <oliver_> well that almost worked...
[22:17] <xar-> so this should go without saying, but prior to resizing partition(s), please make sure you have good (TM) backups.
[22:17] <Beldar> Helena222, Cool.
[22:19] <Noiro> what's a good program to edit images out of pdf documents? HP printers apparently love emailing them as pdfs
[22:20] <Helena222> Beldar, it's processing. In the meantime, the unallocated space will be later converted to extended, logical or primary?
[22:25] <Beldar> Helena222, A logical ntfs, however I would remove the swap, make the ntfs, than another swap. This will keep the partitions numerically in order fro left to right as you see them. Left to right is from front to end.
[22:25] <Beldar> of the HD
[22:26] <covi> Can I redirect stdout to a file, AND stderr to a *different file*?
[22:26] <Helena222> Beldar, OK it's done. You mean to delete the Swap and make a new one following the Ubuntu ext4 one and later create the NTFS logical one?
[22:26] <user5601561056> Please explain this. I DID get it to install with dpkg --force-all. package krita 1:2.8.1-oubuntu2 failed to install upgrades trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/kde4/kritaclonesarray.so', which is also in package caIigra-libs 1:2.8.0ubuntu4
[22:27] <user5601561056> There are many SIMILAR bugs on launchpad but none like this
[22:27] <user5601561056> Should I create a report for it?
[22:28] <Beldar> Helena222, Delete the swap, then make a ntfs after the sda5 in the unallocated space. You can make it leaving enough still unallocated for a swap after it.
[22:28] <ice9> I installed 14.04 but the click to minimize feature on the launcher doesn't work, any idea?
[22:28] <user5601561056> @ice9 not implemented yet?
[22:29] <Helena222> Beldar, you mean this order?: 1&2-W8, 3-Ubuntu, 4-Swap, 5-NTFS logical for my stuff?
[22:29] <ice9> user5601561056: it was said that this feature will be shipped with 14.04 and I this is it's beta version
[22:29] <trism> user5601561056: hard to find because it was fixed 8 hours ago, bug 1298805
[22:30] <Helena222> Beldar, I'm confused now, the Swap is now the last one, should I leave it the last or move it after the Ubuntu sd5 and before the NTFS?
[22:30] <Beldar> Helena222, Those description leave area for mistakes. Delete the swap, make a ntfs in that unallocated space.
[22:30] <user5601561056> So, maybe the current beta does not have it yet? I dont know, It should have it by release which is a couple weeks.
[22:30] <Helena222> Beldar, OK, done
[22:31] <Beldar> Helena222, NOw make the ntfs in that unallocated space, you can leave some area still unallocated or just shrink it like we did sda5.
[22:32] <Helena222> Beldar, but the unallocated space for the swap, at the end or at the beginning?
[22:32] <user5601561056> user:trism thanks, it wanted me to file a new report because it couldnt find one existing.  will look it up.
[22:32] <chndn> how to install teamviewer on ubuntu 13.10
[22:32] <chndn> ??
[22:33] <xar-> chndn: https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+install+teamviewer+on+ubuntu
[22:33] <user5601561056> user:chndn Im not sure it exists for linux, you could use NoMachine.
[22:33] <chndn> thnx
[22:34] <Beldar> Helena222, Swap can go anywhere. My point here is that had you left the swap sda6, you would have had a sda7 ntfs before it, that is not good. So we removed the swap so you could make a ntfs m=now sda6 and a new swap after that sda7
[22:34] <chndn> can i connect to windows and mac computers also with nomachine???
[22:34] <trism> ice9: it seems you need to manually enable the click-to-minimize in ccsm, I'll see if I can find it when I boot back up in a minute, also 14.04 is still only supported in #ubuntu+1 right now
[22:35] <Helena222> Beldar, OK I will do it and come back
[22:35] <xar-> chndn: this is the Ubuntu support channel; this channel does not support NoMachine NX, please refer to NoMachine's documentation.
[22:35] <chndn> ok
[22:35] <trism> ice9: bug 733349 comment #441
[22:35] <GraemeLion> And it most def is there , works just fine, in +1
[22:35] <siwica> I repost this as I didnt get an answer the last time: On my laptop I can only access the F-Keys (F1, F2, ..., F12) by pressing the Fn-Key at the same time since they are by default occupied by some multimedia keys (mute, turn volume higher, ...). What would be the way to reverse the default behaviour and have the F-Keys working without pressing the Fn-Key and to use the latter for accessing the multimedia-keys?
[22:37] <ice9> trism: thanks, how do I get that patch?
[22:37] <daftykins> siwica: what kind of laptop is it?
[22:38] <ice9> trism: or I just need the ccsm to enable it?
[22:39] <trism> ice9: yeah just install compizconfig-settings-manager and the option should be on the Unity panel I think...I'll check once I put my computer back together
[22:44] <Ziber> So, this seems like a simple idea, but I want to setup a system-wide folder (/shared) that all users can write to, but not delete other users files.
[22:44] <Helena222> Beldar, I think it's done. I did that, swap is now sd7 after NTFS sd6, and finally I swapped on again and now there are two key icons in sd5 and sd7. Is it all fine? This is the screenshot: http://i.imgur.comYLtyOlG.png
[22:44] <dfrank> hi all. When I'm trying to remove package vim-common, it says that package 'ubuntu-minimal' will be removed too. I checked that there are just some doc files included in the ubuntu-minimal package, and I don't really understand what is it for. So, is it ok to remove vim-common (and ubuntu-minimal too)?
[22:45] <geirha> Ziber: so like /tmp then?  chmod 1777
[22:45] <aboSamoor> I have a problem with my package manager, any idea? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7176646/
[22:45] <Helena222> Beldar, sorry wrong addres, the right one is http://i.imgur.com/YLtyOlG.png
[22:45] <Beldar> Helena222, For some reason that link is broken.
[22:45] <Ziber> geirha: what's the 1? reading about a chmod +t?
[22:46] <geirha> Ziber: it's the +t, yes.
[22:46] <daftykins> dfrank: run "apt-cache policy ubuntu-minimal" to see what depends on it, or vice versa
[22:46] <Ziber> geirha: Huh. Never heard of that before. Thanks!
[22:46] <Beldar> Helena222, Yeah looks good, good job, you may just have to set the fstab to read that new swap is all in ubuntu if not on.
[22:47] <Helena222> Beldar, uh... what is that fstab thing... ugh... (sorry)
[22:47] <dfrank> daftykins: but, is it ok to remove ubuntu-minimal?
[22:47] <Beldar> Helena222, Leta just boot to the ubuntu install and check that, no big deal, I can help you here too.
[22:47] <daftykins> dfrank: run that to find out :P
[22:48] <Beldar> Lets*
[22:48] <Helena222> Beldar, OK I will reboot
[22:48] <dfrank> daftykins: I already runned. wait a min, I'll paste output =)
[22:49] <dfrank> daftykins: http://vpaste.net/8IOKk   sorry I can't find out can I really remove it or not. Its name is so ... global
[22:50] <yabtzok> somebody help me with shortcuts? i want to make a custom shortcut that is supposed to run bash command : "brightness up" i put this in the command field but it does not work ?
[22:50] <yabtzok> i also put bash before this once but no result :s
[22:50] <daftykins> dfrank: sorry i said the wrong command! apt-cache showpkg ubuntu-minimal
[22:50] <simpleuser> Hi there. Is there a way to zoom on my Xubuntu ? I’m using a small screen and it’s a bit small for my eyes. I remember that some years ago when I used to use Compiz, I could zoom on my screen with Super + Scroll
[22:51] <dfrank> daftykins: holy cow, I shouldn't remove it, it seems
[22:52] <dfrank> daftykins: but, when I type 'sudo apt-get remove vim-common', why doesn't it echo all this huge list of packages? just 'ubuntu-minimal'
[22:52] <dfrank> daftykins: it was touch and go
[22:53] <daftykins> dfrank: because it's a meta package i guess, one linkes to two, links to three
[22:53] <daftykins> :)
[22:53] <daftykins> (where three = a lot)
[22:54] <dfrank> daftykins: thanks
[22:55] <Helena222> Beldar, I think it's all ready. I rebooted and this is the screenshot from the install. http://i.imgur.com/ghqz9ai.png. However, when I rebooted, I first got a message saying that Ubuntu couldn't find some disk and told me to wait or press S or M for mounting or not. I waited and t worked alone. I must still reboot again and see if it works fine.
[22:56] <Beldar> Helena222, Hold on we can make sure it works.
[22:56] <Helena222> Beldar, OK I'm here
[22:57] <Beldar> Helena222, Run in the terminal sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[22:57] <Helena222> Beldar, OK
[22:57] <walidmx> hi!
[22:57] <Beldar> Helena222, Then sudo blkid | pastebinit   and give me the url generated
[22:59] <Helena222> Beldar, how I don't know how to type that symbol, that little straight line between blkid and pastebinit
[23:00] <Beldar> Helena222, You have / | key use the shift for |
[23:00] <Helena222> Belda, OK wait pls
[23:01] <Beldar> hopefully, heh
[23:02] <Anonynimity> Hi. Im running ubuntu. When i login i get a black screen with a mouse pointer but no gui. Can someone help me fix this please?
[23:02] <Beldar> Helena222, Basical what we are doing is seeing if the swap UUID in sudo blkid is the same as the swap UUID in gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[23:03] <Beldar> That may be all the info you need, sorry if dragging this out in caution. Helena222
[23:04] <Helena222> Beldar, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7176755/
[23:04] <utusan> sudo mount -a will tell you
[23:05] <jasabella> hi
[23:06] <Beldar> Helena222, so this is the line we are checking   /dev/sda7: UUID="e131ebe8-2c9c-44cc-b72f-4d819ee9bc2a" TYPE="swap"  Now run cat /etc/fstab  and pastebin that info
[23:06] <Anonynimity> Apparently xorg was removed??
[23:06] <Helena222> Beldar, "cat /etc/fstab" ??
[23:07] <dfrank> guys, it seems there's an issue with match() function and multi-byte chars: match() returns index of first match, but if there are multi-byte chars before first match, then each multi-byte chars is interpreted as several chars
[23:07] <Beldar> Helena222, Yes it will make a text block you can copy and paste to a pastebin.
[23:07] <pedrommone> hello guys, can someone gimme tips to boot ubuntu fast with ssd?
[23:07] <dfrank> how to workaround it?
[23:07] <daftykins> Anonynimity: is it 'Ubuntu' or a derivative like 'xubuntu' ?
[23:07] <Anonynimity> Ubuntu
[23:07] <dfrank> say, match("foobar", "bar") returns 3, which is correct.  But match("яfoobar", "bar")  returns 5, which is wrong (should be 4)
[23:08] <dfrank> oh sorry, wrong channel!
[23:08] <Beldar> Helena222, cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit  works the same
[23:09] <daftykins> Anonynimity: what've you changed recently?
[23:09] <jasabella> so if i use dpkg --get-selections/--clear-selections/--set-selections i can create a "restore point" of sorts?
[23:10] <daftykins> that would do nothing of the sort, no
[23:10] <Anonynimity> Havent used the os in a while... I dont remember what was changed. I had done apt-get autoremove but that is when the issues started.
[23:10] <ice9> how to test graphics card performance?
[23:10] <Helena222> Beldar, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7176790/
[23:11] <daftykins> Anonynimity: you could check things are installed by running 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ '
[23:12] <Beldar> Helena222, Cool, so we need to change the fstab, so run gksudo gedit /etc/fstab   let me know when it's open.
[23:12] <Helena222> Beldar, OK I do it
[23:12] <RainMan28> guys i'm trying to rdp into my ubuntu 12.04 system from windows. I installed xrdp and am able to connect and login but then only see a blank desktop wallpaper
[23:12] <Anonynimity> One moment daftykins.
[23:13] <Helena222> Beldar, the terminal says that the program gksudo is not installed and that I can install it by typing some code
[23:14] <Beldar> Helena222, I believe it is sudo apt-get install su
[23:14] <Beldar> Helena222, Some code resembles the command right?
[23:14] <reazem_> Hi! I am rocking trusty tahr and whatever video I watch online plays very fast with no sound. I have looked for solutons but none worked.
[23:14] <simpleuser> I often take some screenshots and have to crop them. For that I always use Gimp… Very heavy just to crop images… Which tool do you use to crop images ?
[23:14] <Helena222> Beldar, I'm installing it
[23:15] <Helena222> Beldar, it worked, I installed gksu and now could run your code and it opened a window
[23:16] <Anonynimity> 238 new packages installed 704 upgraded, 556 not upgraded
[23:16] <Helena222> Beldar, do you want a screenshot of that window opened?
[23:16] <reazem_> Update: Changing my audio output just fixed it.
[23:16] <Anonynimity> Guess a bunch of stuff was removed... ??? :/
[23:17] <Beldar> Helena222, Cool so on this line in fstab change it from UUID=d1310627-e7cc-4c5a-a771-3ce8ea536fb0  to UUID=e131ebe8-2c9c-44cc-b72f-4d819ee9bc2a
[23:17] <Beldar> just that portion
[23:18] <Beldar> Helena222, cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit already showed me a screenshot of the open doc.
[23:19] <Helena222> Beldar, I am doing all of this from a different computer, how can I copy and replace the long code number you told me to
[23:19] <Beldar> Helena222, That code is from the sudo blkid I had you run on it.
[23:19] <Anonynimity> Was using kali because of this... Hopefully this works... Thanks so far daftykins.
[23:20] <Helena222> Beldar, sorry I don't understand, got lost... (oops sorry)
[23:20] <Beldar> Helena222,Notice a swap line in blkid and fstab we want the numbers on the blkid the same as ftab in the swap lines.
[23:20] <Beldar> fstab*
[23:21] <Helena222> Beldar, please allow me some time to try to figure out all of it (kind of difficult now) I will come back
[23:23] <Beldar> Helena222, be careful here, don;t just reboot to check it, this has to do with booting these partitions is all.
[23:23] <Helena222> Beldar, in this fstab window, I don't have the two numbers-lines you tell me, please see the screenshot, they are different strings to what you tell me htpp://paste.ubuntu.com/7176815/
[23:24] <Beldar> Helena222, Notice the swap notation line 11?
[23:24] <Helena222> Beldar, sorry, mistake in the URL, this is http://paste.ubuntu.com/7176815/
[23:25] <Helena222> Beldar, yes, line 11, what about it?
[23:26] <Beldar> Helena222, That iis from the ubuntu install correct?
[23:27] <Helena222> Beldar, yes I am in the installed Ubuntu
[23:28] <Beldar> Helena222, In line 11 this is incorrect now that we have made a new swap 'e7cc-4c5a-a771-3ce8ea536fb0'
[23:28] <Helena222> Beldar, so what should I replace it with?
[23:29] <Beldar> Helena222, Do you have it open with the gksudo gedit /etc/fstab command
[23:29] <Helena222> Beldar, yes, I did that command you say
[23:29] <Helena222> Beldar, should I repeat it?
[23:29] <Beldar> Helena222, Now in the terminal run sudo blkid and do you see a swap line there?
[23:30] <Helena222> Beldar, okwait pls
[23:30] <Beldar> Helena222, YOU need fstab open
[23:31] <Beldar> Helena222, we have gotten into a circular communication here due to your not understanding.
[23:32] <Helena222> Beldar http://paste.ubuntu.com/7176863/ (fstab was opened)
[23:33] <Beldar> Helena222, So in the swap line in fstab where you see e7cc-4c5a-a771-3ce8ea536fb0  we want e131ebe8-2c9c-44cc-b72f-4d819ee9bc2a   instead
[23:34] <Helena222> Beldar, ok, I will replace it
[23:35] <Beldar> Helena222, Cool, The UUID is what is used to read where partitions are basically, so change it save it and you should be set.
[23:38] <delt> Hello
[23:38] <delt> is gparted included (and usable) on the livedisc?
[23:39] <Beldar> Helena222, That replacement text is from the sudo blkid, you can copy and paste it to the fstab doc open on the computer
[23:40] <rickb> ok. this is a general question. i established an openvpn site to site vpn between two servers. i can ping, nmap, etc. i cannot get snmp 161 to appear in an nmap, it is literally not listening on 161. but when i run an snmpwalk on it, it responds from both sides of the vpn.. BUT observium, the aggregator i am using will not allow me to add the remote server via the vpn ip, even though i can snmpwalk test from the vpn concentrator end.... what the hell.
[23:41] <Helena222> Beldar, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7176880/ is it right now?
[23:45] <Beldar> Helena222, remove this part in the swap line in fstab d1310627-   you left part of the original info. it should just be   e131ebe8-2c9c-44cc-b72f-4d819ee9bc2a
[23:45] <Helena222> Beldar, OK
[23:47] <LinuxBro> Hey, having some trouble with FTP.  I set up vsftpd, and I can connect and view files, but I can't download them.  I'm trying to download from /var/www  It's a webserver, and I'm making a website
[23:47] <Helena222> Beldar, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7176906/
[23:49] <Beldar> Helena222, Looks good hit save and close it you should be set now.
[23:49] <Helena222> Beldar, a million thanks
[23:49] <Beldar> Helena222, No prob, enjoy.
[23:49] <rickb> can anyone help me :(
[23:49] <Helena222> Beldar, thanks for so much time and such a huge help and your knowledge
[23:49] <OerHeks> !cookie | Beldar
[23:49] <Guest15270> | isn't here
[23:49] <LinuxBro> Hey, having some trouble with FTP.  I set up vsftpd, and I can connect and view files, but I can't download them.  I'm trying to download from /var/www  It's a webserver, and I'm making a website
[23:49] <Helena222> Beldar, THANKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[23:50] <Beldar> Helena222, Just armchair help, but thanks.
[23:50] <Anonynimity> Now my ubuntu is hanging at "Logging in..."
[23:51] <daftykins> Anonynimity: would you be worried about losing any account customisations?
[23:51] <daftykins> Anonynimity: you could try temporarily renaming ~/.config to ~/.configold
[23:51] <Anonynimity> No daftykins. Just files...
[23:51] <Anonynimity> How would i do that daftykins?
[23:52] <daftykins> mv ~/.config ~/.configold
[23:54] <Anonynimity> Still hanging at login.
[23:55] <daftykins> ok, beyond my experience then i'm afraid
[23:55] <Anonynimity> Going to install gno.e and see if that works...
[23:56] <Anonynimity> Going to install gnome and see if that works...