| knome | micahg, did you get to upload something? | 00:36 |
|---|---|---|
| knome | Unit193, keeping hopes up for RU and ES | 01:36 |
| Unit193 | Mmmm, I have hopes for RU as well, some others too. | 01:36 |
| === bluesabre1 is now known as bluesabre | ||
| elfy | ochosi: "can i have a screensaver (xscreensaver) and still use light locker for login?" our pqwoerituytrueiwoq friend ... | 08:53 |
| bluesabre | elfy: nope | 08:54 |
| bluesabre | err | 08:54 |
| bluesabre | well, yes | 08:54 |
| bluesabre | if he wants to enter his password twice | 08:55 |
| elfy | he might - he'd rather have something on the screen than a blank one - uses TV for monitor apparently | 08:56 |
| elfy | and hi bluesabre :) | 08:56 |
| bluesabre | hey elfy | 08:57 |
| bluesabre | it might be possible, but if he's doing something like that, just use xscreensaver | 08:58 |
| elfy | yea - remove lightlocker I guess | 08:58 |
| jhenke | good morning | 09:12 |
| elfy | hi jhenke | 09:12 |
| elfy | bluesabre: your words are immortalised on the forum ... | 09:14 |
| bluesabre | oh boy | 09:19 |
| elfy | I highlighted the 'err' | 09:23 |
| ochosi | morning | 09:29 |
| ochosi | elfy: he's probably mixing things up | 09:30 |
| elfy | hi ochosi | 09:30 |
| ochosi | he's probably wanting to say "can i still use the greeter and use xscreensaver for locking" | 09:30 |
| elfy | entirely possible | 09:30 |
| ochosi | light-locker has nothing to do with login | 09:30 |
| elfy | yep - that will be a what do I call it thing I expect | 09:30 |
| bluesabre | hey ochosi: going to try release a fixed greeter now before I'm gone for the day | 09:31 |
| elfy | rather - I think what he's saying is then can I have a screensaver and still use light-locker | 09:31 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: great stuff! i don't think we have any other bugs we can/want to fix for now and that one bug is nasty enough to warrant a release | 09:32 |
| ochosi | also, translations | 09:32 |
| ochosi | elfy: right, that doesn't make too much sense then... | 09:32 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: we should do another parole sprint and try to fix one or two more bugs and then do a release of that, maybe next week or so | 09:33 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: or: could :) | 09:33 |
| elfy | ochosi: yea - reading between the lines - he wants a 'picture' on the monitor - not a blank screen | 09:33 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: agreed | 09:33 |
| bluesabre | I'm going to do a round of bugfix releases this weekend, then we can try to hack on parole | 09:33 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: that sounds great. well that or we try to figure out the lock-settings mess :) | 09:34 |
| brainwash | mugshot anytime soon too? :) | 09:34 |
| bluesabre | I don't suppose you had a chance to test the dvd fix? | 09:34 |
| bluesabre | brainwash: today or tomorrow | 09:34 |
| brainwash | great | 09:34 |
| bluesabre | brainwash: any particulars you want fixed for sure? | 09:34 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: i asked around, ppl here don't have any video dvds :/ | 09:34 |
| bluesabre | ok, I'll hope for the best... it does work for me anyway :) | 09:35 |
| ochosi | elfy: yeah, that's not in the scope of light-locker | 09:35 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: yeah, it'll most likely be an improvement, even if it only works for some ;) | 09:35 |
| elfy | ochosi: I know - so remove light-locker and install xscreensaver would work for him | 09:35 |
| ochosi | elfy: exactly. probably i need to extend that post for x.org on locking and mention screensavers | 09:36 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: not sure, I pushed 3 branches which add some minor improvements (no lp reports) | 09:36 |
| elfy | ochosi: yea, or I could | 09:36 |
| ochosi | anyway, gotta take off now | 09:36 |
| elfy | have a good weekend :) | 09:36 |
| ochosi | elfy: that'd be great, feel free to go ahead | 09:36 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: do you already have a solution for the file size issue? | 09:37 |
| ochosi | thanks, i'll most likely come back quickly tonight and check in | 09:37 |
| elfy | somehow I knew you'd say that :p | 09:37 |
| ochosi | :) | 09:37 |
| ochosi | have a nice day everyone! | 09:38 |
| brainwash | cya ochosi | 09:38 |
| elfy | hi brainwash | 09:38 |
| bluesabre | brainwash: yeah, I'm going to scale the image to 250px or something small | 09:38 |
| brainwash | hey elfy | 09:38 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: ok | 09:38 |
| bluesabre | btw, make some merge requests for your branches explaining them... otherwise, they look pretty good | 09:39 |
| brainwash | nothing special, and I was not sure if they are actually merge ready | 09:40 |
| elfy | bluesabre: ok - you're safe now, not immortalised on the forum :p | 09:41 |
| bluesabre | *phew* | 09:42 |
| elfy | lol | 09:43 |
| brainwash | *pqwo* | 09:44 |
| brainwash | just checking the ubuntu+1 subforum | 09:44 |
| elfy | generally it's either pqwwerweraf or ajgreeny bringing up Xubuntu issues | 09:45 |
| bluesabre | ok, greeter released, now for some quick packaging | 09:47 |
| bluesabre | https://launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter/1.8/1.8.4 | 09:47 |
| dkessel | hey guys | 09:48 |
| bluesabre | hey dkessel | 09:48 |
| dkessel | bluesabre: which DVD issue are you referring to? | 09:49 |
| bluesabre | dkessel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parole/+bug/1098323 | 09:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1098323 in parole (Ubuntu) "Parole failes to play DVD" [Medium,Triaged] | 09:49 |
| bluesabre | I applied a fix in trunk | 09:49 |
| elfy | dkessel: most of the bugs being looked at are on the blueprint I think/hope | 09:50 |
| elfy | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-t-bugs | 09:50 |
| dkessel | bluesabre: I could verify a fix. hmm is there a package yet or how could I try? | 09:52 |
| bluesabre | the parole package here should be updated with the fix: https://launchpad.net/~smd-seandavis/+archive/xfce-4.12-daily | 09:53 |
| dkessel | OK will try that later today | 09:54 |
| dkessel | don't want make the cat stand up from my lap atm ;) | 09:57 |
| elfy | lol | 09:57 |
| dkessel | :D | 09:59 |
| bluesabre | thanks dkessel | 10:03 |
| bluesabre | knome, micahg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1299397 | 10:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1299397 in lightdm-gtk-greeter (Ubuntu) "[needs-packaging] lightdm-gtk-greeter 1.8.4" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 10:03 |
| bluesabre | that release should fix that horrible bug | 10:03 |
| brainwash | "horrible" :) | 10:05 |
| bluesabre | gotta go, bbl | 10:05 |
| brainwash | bye | 10:05 |
| elfy | cya bluesabre | 10:05 |
| bluesabre | any bug I have to fix twice is "horrible" | 10:05 |
| bluesabre | :D | 10:05 |
| bluesabre | or rather, "that has to be fixed twice" | 10:07 |
| bluesabre | since ochosi did all the work the second time :) | 10:07 |
| elfy | lol | 10:08 |
| * bluesabre has cleared his conscious and can leave now | 10:08 | |
| bluesabre | or is that conscience | 10:08 |
| elfy | sleeping for the day | 10:08 |
| bluesabre | whatever | 10:08 |
| bluesabre | bbl | 10:08 |
| elfy | aah - conscience might be best :p | 10:08 |
| bluesabre | heh | 10:09 |
| udzguru | hello | 12:13 |
| elfy | same answer in here ;) | 12:13 |
| udzguru | no different question here probably ;) | 12:14 |
| elfy | that said I'm lazy and tend to use synaptic | 12:14 |
| udzguru | my wireless indicator in the tray disappeared for no reason. starting nm-applet does not bring it back. any ideas? | 12:15 |
| udzguru | (beforehand i killed all instances of nm-applet) | 12:15 |
| elfy | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Trusty/Gtk3Indicators | 12:15 |
| elfy | look at the indicators may fail to load bit :) | 12:16 |
| udzguru | ok ... applying the changes ... then will reboot (due to a kernel update). will get back with more information afterwards. thanks for your help in advance! | 12:19 |
| elfy | brainwash: do you know of the top of your head if the old Ctrl+Esc shortcut to menu is being added for whiskermenu? | 12:31 |
| elfy | or indeed anyone else who is lurking ;) | 12:31 |
| udzguru | back again | 12:33 |
| elfy | I noticed :p | 12:34 |
| udzguru | everything worked out fine after using your howto elfy. thank you so much for your help. | 12:34 |
| elfy | welcome :) | 12:34 |
| udzguru | had to get used to the little-confusing settings of the notification panel but now i have back my wireless indicator ;) | 12:35 |
| elfy | I don't use wireless so ... | 12:35 |
| udzguru | yeah ... call it network indicator ;) | 12:35 |
| elfy | :) | 12:35 |
| udzguru | performance-wise i really like trusty. | 12:37 |
| elfy | good :) | 12:37 |
| starrats | Just curious did you devel folks get rid of 'workspaces' on the final Beta, I'm using it now. | 12:44 |
| elfy | just booted the daily - that has 2 workspaces | 12:44 |
| starrats | couldn't find the 'daily' | 12:47 |
| elfy | starrats: middle click on the desktop - how many workspaces does that show you? | 12:48 |
| elfy | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/ | 12:49 |
| starrats | ok | 12:49 |
| brainwash | elfy: https://code.launchpad.net/~ochosi/xubuntu-default-settings/appmenu_shortcut | 12:51 |
| elfy | brainwash: thanks - I guessed it was in the pipeline - just checking :) | 12:52 |
| elfy | and I'm never really sure where to look either ... | 12:52 |
| elfy | I guess if I kept links to the LP pages for people I'd probably find them there lol | 12:53 |
| elfy | starrats: so how many workspaces when you middle click on desktop? | 12:54 |
| starrats | I have now 4 but can't get the 3 to move to the individual spaces | 12:55 |
| starrats | they're all in #1 workspace | 12:56 |
| elfy | what? | 12:56 |
| elfy | I completely don't understand that | 12:56 |
| elfy | hi lderan | 12:56 |
| starrats | I have FF, TB mail and Hexchat all in the first workspace want to put them in individual workspaces | 12:57 |
| elfy | right click on the title bar and move them - or drag them | 12:57 |
| starrats | ok | 12:58 |
| starrats | will work on it in a bit must go help my gf atm | 12:59 |
| brainwash | we've crippled the workspace usability a bit | 13:00 |
| elfy | how? | 13:08 |
| elfy | I don't use it much so haven't really noticed much | 13:09 |
| brainwash | workspace switcher (panel) has been removed and some on-scroll functionality has been disabled | 13:10 |
| elfy | oic - the oh my you could accidentally shake while typing 1 and get 1111 workspaces thing :p | 13:11 |
| brainwash | 100 is max | 13:11 |
| elfy | and the switcher can be added if people want it | 13:11 |
| elfy | brainwash: I'm just quoting someone else :) | 13:11 |
| brainwash | no, not the settings dialog scroll problem | 13:12 |
| elfy | yes :) | 13:12 |
| brainwash | elfy: https://code.launchpad.net/~ochosi/xubuntu-default-settings/xfwm4_disable_scrollevents/+merge/209545 | 13:13 |
| elfy | instead of going for "11" you go for "111" or even "1111" | 13:13 |
| elfy | https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10644 | 13:13 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 10644 in Settings "Number keys not working in Workspace settings" [Normal,New] | 13:13 |
| brainwash | yeah, but ochosi does not want it to be changed ^ | 13:14 |
| elfy | oh that - I see waht you're talking about now | 13:14 |
| brainwash | :) | 13:14 |
| elfy | yep - I know - I Was confusing 2 issues there | 13:14 |
| elfy | I forget we did that as I still haven't got that change and had to put it back | 13:14 |
| brainwash | just created a new user and our default whiskermenu favorites add some clutter | 13:18 |
| brainwash | maybe it's just me | 13:18 |
| elfy | looking in vm | 13:19 |
| brainwash | I prefer a clean and lightweight look | 13:19 |
| elfy | well ... | 13:19 |
| brainwash | don't agree? :) | 13:20 |
| brainwash | it's my first impression | 13:20 |
| elfy | pretty sure the decision was to have in favourites what is in the slideshow - and it's easy enough to remove things | 13:20 |
| brainwash | yes, everyone can change whatever he wants | 13:20 |
| elfy | my default menu has completely different things on it | 13:21 |
| elfy | brainwash: compare that to the app menu plugin | 13:22 |
| brainwash | the classic app menu has a clean look | 13:22 |
| elfy | there is actually 1 less 'app' on the default whiskermenu | 13:22 |
| brainwash | ok, I don't want it to be changed (would be almost impossible anyway) | 13:24 |
| elfy | lol | 13:26 |
| elfy | brainwash: aha - got some sort of useful output - ish on deleting from desktop - adding it to report | 13:59 |
| elfy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfdesktop4/+bug/1294209/comments/6 | 14:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1294209 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "Deleting files from desktop freezes machine for short period" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 14:00 |
| brainwash | elfy: nice, we got a hint now :) | 14:01 |
| elfy | yep | 14:03 |
| brainwash | https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/38853 | 14:03 |
| elfy | then a second attempt to delete from the desktop doesn't get the warning | 14:05 |
| elfy | anyway - there we go - finally get something useful for it :p | 14:06 |
| brainwash | only a warning message according to the arch report, but your system apparently freezes =S | 14:06 |
| elfy | yep | 14:06 |
| elfy | no apparently about it :D | 14:06 |
| elfy | can't find anything on bugzilla.xfce | 14:09 |
| elfy | I'll report it there | 14:09 |
| elfy | or is the issue with gvfs | 14:09 |
| brainwash | gvfs, but thunar/xfdesktop might be causing the freeze by not handling the gvfs warning/error properly | 14:12 |
| brainwash | can you check if thunar is also generating the warning? | 14:12 |
| elfy | really don't want another damn account lol | 14:12 |
| elfy | I don't get the same issue when deleting in thunar - it is only from the desktop | 14:13 |
| brainwash | if yes and thunar does not cause any freeze, then there is something wrong with xfdesktop maybe | 14:13 |
| brainwash | ok, file against xfdesktop | 14:13 |
| brainwash | upstream | 14:13 |
| elfy | yep | 14:13 |
| elfy | https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10778 | 14:17 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 10778 in General "Deleting file from desktop freezes system" [Normal,New] | 14:17 |
| elfy | added it to LP report - still a vague description - but there you go - I'm vague at the best of times :) | 14:17 |
| brainwash | at least we now have something to work with | 14:19 |
| elfy | yea | 14:19 |
| dkessel | bluesabre: your fix for the dvd playback issue works. i have verified with parole from your xfce ppa | 14:49 |
| starrats | elfy and brainwash I did figure out how to work the new version of 'workspaces', I use them a lot considering this is Linux but I prefer the old way when they sat up on top and not using middle mouse button to get to each one. | 14:52 |
| brainwash | starrats: it's the same thing, you can re-add the panel workspace switcher | 15:00 |
| starrats | ah okay | 15:02 |
| starrats | got it thanks brainwash | 15:06 |
| bluesabre | dkessel, thanks a lot! | 16:20 |
| dkessel | well thank you for fixing, bluesabre :) | 16:21 |
| bluesabre | I'll do a new parole release tonight, mugshot too | 16:22 |
| dkessel | bluesabre: regarding bug 1293151 - i debugged it a bit and found it only happens in the live session. still interested in finding the problem? | 16:25 |
| ubottu | bug 1293151 in menulibre (Ubuntu) "menulibre: hidden entry is still displayed in menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1293151 | 16:25 |
| bluesabre | yeah, if we can figure it out, it will probably save some trouble down the road | 16:25 |
| starrats | good, bad or indifferent that timed from when the screen goes black and have to put you password in on this last Beta is really a short time, not complaing just noticing | 16:34 |
| brainwash | starrats: put your password to do what? | 16:48 |
| brainwash | unlock the session after it was inactive for 10 minutes? | 16:48 |
| starrats | away form the laptop for a bit and then I comeback and te desktop/screen is black and I move the cursor a tad and I have to put my password back in to get back on | 16:49 |
| starrats | like I said really no big deal but it is quite fast or I'm slow in getting back, lol | 16:50 |
| starrats | yes brainwash | 16:51 |
| brainwash | 10 minutes is the default timeout | 16:52 |
| brainwash | but you can change it | 16:53 |
| brainwash | settings manager > light locker settings | 16:53 |
| starrats | ah okay but the 10 minutes is fine I was only commenting on it. Love this final. | 16:54 |
| starrats | when this is released, I hope a lot of folks will be thrilled with it, like I am. Very good job by all who participated in this build! | 16:56 |
| dkessel | bluesabre: i attached files to the menulibre bug. extra info: if i log out of the live session and re-enter the session, the menu is updated correctly | 17:12 |
| Unit193 | Re: Xubuntu translations: 1. Well I'd hope everything is 100% English. 2. What translation should Libreoffice pull in when installed? This sounds more like it's expecting you to know what language you want, and for you to install it. 3&4 see #1 :P (But really, I think he's confused between git master and actual releases.) | 17:49 |
| knome | yep. | 17:51 |
| knome | though i guess he's saying we should pull translations from git master | 17:51 |
| knome | ... which we should | 17:51 |
| Unit193 | How? As a quilt patch? Or repack? :/ | 17:53 |
| knome | i don't know how, but it would be good to have the latest translation state | 17:54 |
| Unit193 | Maybe it's because I'm English only, but I'd normally say just follow the releases. | 17:55 |
| brainwash | Unit193: request a new upstream release :) | 17:56 |
| Unit193 | Why? If it's not major bug fixes or new features? :P | 17:57 |
| knome | if we are carryinag a delta for package X, won't hurt to update with a new ubuntu version | 18:04 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: should we be worried that this hasn't be merged yet? | 19:31 |
| brainwash | been | 19:31 |
| brainwash | https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/trusty/xfce4-settings/1289411/+merge/212261 | 19:31 |
| Noskcaj | brainwash, Not yet. We had beta freeze and then a weekend, so not much merge sponsoring | 19:32 |
| brainwash | ok | 19:33 |
| Noskcaj | But because universe, we can get stuff sponsored till final release freeze (with project lead approval) | 19:33 |
| brainwash | right, but we want it fixed as soon as possible, so there is more time left to test it :) | 19:34 |
| brainwash | test the final product I mean | 19:34 |
| dkessel | elfy: upgrade test saucy -> trusty done | 19:36 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: does the patch header and name matter when adding patches to a package? | 19:38 |
| Noskcaj | brainwash, not that much, but it helps to have good info | 19:39 |
| brainwash | what prefix should I use for a patch extracted from a git mirror for svn? | 19:40 |
| brainwash | abiword :P | 19:40 |
| elfy | dkessel: ta :) | 19:41 |
| Noskcaj | just svn- | 19:43 |
| brainwash | oh, I used the rev number for my PPA upload | 19:47 |
| brainwash | so, r12345- | 19:47 |
| brainwash | debdiff or bzr branch? | 19:47 |
| Noskcaj | whatever you prefer working with. | 19:48 |
| brainwash | ok, thanks :) | 19:49 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: abiword does no support downstream branches | 19:57 |
| Noskcaj | What do you mean? | 19:58 |
| brainwash | https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/abiword | 19:58 |
| brainwash | this is rather complicated | 20:01 |
| brainwash | packaging for my PPA is so easy, but officially releasing this is meh | 20:04 |
| brainwash | it needs to be done on the debian side | 20:05 |
| knome | hey micahg, should we poke the sponsors queue or are you going to upload things? | 23:12 |
| Noskcaj | knome, There's enough stuff that a queue poke is needed anyway | 23:13 |
| knome | i'm talking about particular things i've asked him to upload; if you think there's something that needs to be in the sponsors queue, feel free to do the paperwork | 23:14 |
| knome | and it'd be appreciated if that was "just done" | 23:15 |
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