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basketballhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/129965301:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1299653 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "[xsettings]: gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in ffi_call_SYSV()" [Undecided,New]01:04
trismbasketball: might be a conflict with gnome-settings-daemon and unity-settings-daemon...gnome-settings-daemon is trying to initialize gnome-shell stuff there, which you probably won't have in unity01:52
trismbasketball: I don't have gnome-settings-daemon installed here, if you aren't using gnome-shell too you might want to remove it until this gets worked out01:52
MaximumTimboI understand people here have been using 14.04? I was wondering if the screen dim bug was fixed?02:08
basketballtrism,  i use gdm to login and unity as desktop enviroment03:14
trismbasketball: hmm I just installed gnome-settings-daemon and it is not starting, is this an upgrade?03:28
basketballwhat do you mean03:29
basketballi installed gdm and made that the default03:29
basketballbrb03:33
basketballback03:36
trismbasketball: nope I installed gdm and it still isn't starting...my thinking was that you had an old conf file in your user dir starting gnome-settings-daemon...maybe in ~/.config/autostart/ or ~/.config/upstart/03:40
trismbasketball: assuming it was an upgrade03:40
trismbasketball: since /usr/share/upstart/gnome-settings-daemon.conf has start on INSTANCE=GNOME so really shouldn't be starting in unity from that03:42
trismbasketball: not that gnome-settings-daemon should be crashing even if started in unity03:43
savrhow do I upgrade to 14.04?04:55
savrfrom #ubuntu ...04:56
Nothing_Muchsavr: what are you running right now?04:57
savr3.1004:57
savr:p04:57
savr13.1004:57
Nothing_Muchah okay04:57
Nothing_Muchsavr: first backup your data04:57
Nothing_Muchthen in the terminal04:57
Nothing_Muchsudo do-release-upgrade -d04:57
Nothing_Muchthe -d represents the development version of ubuntu, which is currently 14.04 since it hasn't been released yet04:58
savrI don't back anything up04:58
Nothing_Muchwell okay, you don't have to, it's just a precaution04:58
Nothing_Muchto back up04:58
Nothing_Muchin the case that something goes wrong04:58
savrI live in the United States of 'murica04:58
Nothing_Muchme too dude04:58
savrI can sue anyone!! yehaaa04:59
Nothing_Muchnice04:59
Nothing_Muchwell the command is up there, so you can feel free to do so dude04:59
savr:)04:59
AndChat27729I upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04 and i get error on boot. Error symbol grub term highlight color not found. And im only able to enter grub rescue05:28
AndChat27729Any suggestions?05:29
Guest55668Hi all, I have a old rig with 3 GHz Singlecore CPU, 2GB RAM and ATI X1300 Pro card /HP dc7600 SFF/ which run 12.04.04 LTS perfect. Will ths be enough to run 14.04 LTS smooth, or I need to switch to lu/x/buntu? Thank You in advixe.06:32
CyborgCygnus<Guest55668> I think you will be able to run it. When the 14.04 stable release comes out, just download it & run it from a live usb to test it just in case.06:45
SwedeMikeGuest55668: yep, though you might want to put more memory on it, but I doubt 14.04 will have more system requirements, memory hogs like web browser should be the same on 12.04 and 14.0406:47
Guest55668ok thank you06:48
Guest55668bye07:43
EddiXHi! I assume if I install the beta2, it will keep up-to-date and become "upgraded" to the official release? In other words, it uses the same repos as the final version? I have problems with my current openSUSE installation and would like to change distro asap, but wouldn't like to be bothered to upgrade or reinstall when the official release hits the mirrors.10:46
bekksEddiX: "Yes."10:47
EddiXbekks, Thanks! This is my main dev workstation in question, so I'm gonna install right away so that I'm up and running tomorrow. :)10:49
tgregohi all11:34
tgregoIm trying to install 14.04 beta2 on a new laptop, but with no luck :(11:34
lordievadertgrego: Do you get errors?11:34
bekksDefine "no luck" please.11:34
tgregoI think the issue is uefi11:34
TJ-tgrego: There isn't a package called "luck" :p11:35
lordievaderHihi11:35
lordievaderWish there was, would be usefull.11:35
bekkstgrego: why do you think that?11:35
tgregowhen I install with legacy mode turned on in bios it completes with no issue, but I cant boot11:35
penguin42what do you mean by 'can't boot' - how far does it get?11:36
TJ-tgrego: Did/does the laptop have Windows 8.x on it?11:36
tgregoif I try to install using uefi, it fails installation in the grub part11:36
tgregono, it has a blank hdd11:36
penguin42tgrego: Are you using a custom partition layout or did you let it do it?11:37
bekkstgrego: what was the exact error?11:37
tgregoI just bought if yesterday and it came with freeDOS11:37
tgregoI used a costum partition layout11:37
penguin42tgrego: There are some rules to the partition layout to work with efi, so I'm guessing you did something it didn't like - I'd try letting the default partition layout and see if it works first11:38
bekks!uefi11:38
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI11:38
tgregook thanks, ill read that and try again11:38
TJ-tgrego: Do you know which 'grub' part failed specifically? Did you look at the logs in the live/install environment11:39
tgregoindeed I did as I was used to... a /, a /home, and a swap... all primary partitions11:39
TJ-tgrego: Some buggy firmwares don't talk to efibootmgr too well11:39
tgregoim installing with default full drive install, ill keep the logs this time if it fails :) thanks11:44
TJ-tgrego: Remember, the logs I'm talking about are in the live environment. I believe some of them are copied to the installed system, but not necessarily the ones containing the EFI info. I'd suggest not rebooting after doing the install, but switching to a terminal so you can check the installation.11:45
TJ-tgrego: Also, I'd recommend doing the UEFI mode install --- which means ensuring the liveISO device boots in EFI mode11:45
tgregoim installing from usb, and it is in uefi mode, but i was going for the legacy mode11:47
tgregowill restart then in uefi mode, thanks11:47
BluesKajHiyas all12:23
ice9in 14.04 I still see the windows corners are not smooth13:30
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Daekdroomice9, can you provide a screenshot13:42
ice9ok Daekdroom13:44
ice9Daekdroom: where to paste it?13:44
Daekdroomice9, http://imagebin.org/?page=add13:45
ice9oh after I installed kubuntu desktop on 14.04 unity can't search applications13:47
penguin42hmm that's odd, installing another desktop shouldn't break the other one13:48
ice9even the gtk theme is broken, I had to set the gtk-theme in kde to ambience13:49
ice9Daekdroom: http://imagebin.org/30269113:51
Daekdroomice9, it looks alright to me.13:55
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ice9Daekdroom: but the top corner is not smooth14:08
ice9libreoffice doesn't have windows title bar http://imagebin.org/30269814:20
arianithi, after updating from 13.10, I'm missing Unity login option14:38
arianitany idea?14:38
ice9arianit: what options do you have in the login screen?14:39
ice9tracker-extract and tracker-miner-fs are doing a lot of disk IO which is slowing down my system14:39
BluesKajdrop to a virtual terminal/tty , ctl+alt+F1-F6 login, then update and upgrade14:40
xubuntu_In 14.04, can network manager share eth0 internet via wi-fi in AP mode (not ad-hoc)?14:40
BluesKajarianit,^14:40
xubuntu_seems it can't.. :(14:41
arianitice9, gnome plus 2 gnome flashbacks14:42
BluesKajxubuntu_, not simultaneously14:42
arianitBluesKaj, thanks, I'll try14:42
BluesKajone or the other14:43
BluesKajbut not both14:43
xubuntu_BluesKaj, how to get it to use AP mode?14:43
xubuntu_it will save time spent on hostapd setup14:45
xubuntu_hostapd+dnsmasq+ip forwarding/masquerading+..14:46
BluesKajxubuntu_, AP on the router is the default for wifi afaik , what mode are you using ?14:46
xubuntu_new wifi-conn -> enter ssid, infrastructure selected by default -> ipv4(shared to others) -> ipv6 ignore->save.  Try connecting to the new connection.... fails14:50
xubuntu_Seems like NetworkManager is searching for an AP instead of becoming one.14:52
BluesKajBBL, stuff to do for 30 mins or so14:52
lordievaderxubuntu_: For as far as I know you need something like hostapd to run an access point.14:53
xubuntu_lordievader, this has been implemented in NM, isn't it? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RealHotspot#Release_Notes14:56
lordievaderHmm, I might be simply outdated ;)14:56
xubuntu_http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=118245  Network Manager AP Mode15:06
pietro10Hi. Just wnated to thank whoever maintains the KDE packages for finally applying http://commits.kde.org/kde-workspace/170f7b9aaeda32422e0df79e9963dbaabf0c31ee to kde-window-manager (I reported the bug that led to it). Now I just have to get used to my mouse working as it should again ;) Thanks!15:11
xubuntu_NetworkManager 0.9.8 release note says "..support for AP-mode mobile hotspot (if your driver supports it),..."15:15
xubuntu_https://mail.gnome.org/archives/networkmanager-list/2013-February/msg00156.html15:15
xubuntu_14.04 beta2 has network-manager 0.9.8.8-0ubuntu5 and my driver supports AP-mode, yet NM doesn't give the choice of AP-mode15:17
xubuntu_oh, so GUI is still not updated. https://mail.gnome.org/archives/networkmanager-list/2013-April/msg00100.html15:20
pikimeisterquick noob question, how can i add shortcuts (custom folders) to Files left pane?16:34
penguin42hmm, is that what it calls bookmarks?16:41
pikimeisterprobably16:42
pikimeistersolved. "add bookmark" from Bookmark menu.16:51
Seven_Six_TwoI'm thinking about doing 13.10 - 14.04 upgrade. anyone want to caution against it? I'm an experienced user, but haven't read much about it yet.17:48
BeldarSeven_Six_Two, There are some general rhetoric on a development upgrade, seems you know them, anything else is an opinion.17:50
Seven_Six_TwoBeldar, good to know. I was looking for specifics, but I understand the risks17:52
Seven_Six_Twothanks17:52
Seven_Six_TwoI don't suppose wayland is featured?17:52
capoderrais there a way to search a list of packages that will be available in the trust repos?17:55
BeldarSeven_Six_Two, Pretty much same risk as any OS works or is bricked and all areas in between, so be backed up. ;)17:55
Seven_Six_Twoalright. I'm going to be brave. If I don't come back, send out a search party with a bootable usb key.18:18
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ggreerI have this guy's exact problem with 14.04: http://fujii.github.io/2014/03/02/thinkpad-edge-e145-backlight-brightness-issue/19:24
ggreerby default, backlight OSD "works" (goes up and down) but the brightness doesn't change at all19:24
ggreerI have a similar model laptop to him. the lenovo x140e. apparently they changed some of the default specs and shipped it as the e145 overseas19:25
ggreeranyway, if I set my boot params to acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor I get his behavior: dmesg says the thinkpad acpi module detected a backlight just fine, but the OSD gets stuck and brightness won't change19:26
ggreerand everything in /sys/class/backlight/thinkpad_screen/ is rather unresponsive or lies about values19:27
ggreerthis is really annoying because the brightness gets stuck at maximum and my battery life sucks19:30
ggreeralso it's obnoxiously bright in low light19:30
lordievaderggreer: Does the xbacklight utility still work?19:43
ggreerit's not installed19:43
* ggreer tries19:43
ggreerI'm going to guess no19:43
ggreerhmm... it doesn't seem to print out anything19:45
angelicaI'm having a problem with being returned to the login screen after I login... not having the problem with the guest account (it logs in fine)19:45
angelicaJust got done installing the nvidia drivers in tty1 with their run package19:45
ggreerit doesn't print anything out and running xbacklight -set 50 doesn't change the brightness19:46
ggreeror -set 1 or -set 10019:46
lordievaderggreer: Right, figured that would be the case. Have you set acpi kernel parameters?19:47
ggreer acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor19:47
ggreerit's the exact same behavior as the post I linked to19:47
ggreerwithout acpi_osi=Linux, the thinkpad_acpi module doesn't detect that I have a backlight19:48
ggreerand ubuntu uses the generic acpi backlight, which doesn't do anything19:48
lordievaderggreer: Hmm, I don't really know what to do about it.19:50
ggreeryeah, me neither. I'm totally stumped19:50
ggreerit sucks because it makes my laptop rather useless as laptop. battery life is only 6 hours in ubuntu while it's 9 in windows19:50
ggreerand I can't use it at night without practically blinding myself19:51
ggreerother people seem to have the same problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219101219:52
ggreerboth the x140e and e145 claim to be certified with a preinstalled image from the manufacturer. neither can be ordered with ubuntu preinstalled, and neither work out of the box with any version of ubuntu :/19:58
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ggreerhttp://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201309-14195/ and http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201305-13630/19:58
angelicaanyone able to help me diagnose a login issue?20:00
angelicagetting a weird situation where when I enter my password the screen goes black, nvidia icon flashes then it returns me to the login screen20:06
trismangelica: you could try switching to a tty and deleting ~/.Xauthority, this kind of thing happens when it gets owned by root20:09
angelicatrism, yup... owned by root.  deleting now20:11
angelicatrism, Awesome!!! Thanks!20:12
MidnightDevilHi20:27
MidnightDevilCan I still install the gnome shell?20:27
MidnightDevilIn the latest 14.04?20:27
BeldarMidnightDevil, the full shell install is called  ubuntu-gnome-desktop20:27
Beldaryou get the gnome desktop splash, yipeee20:28
MidnightDevilUh, but that isn't the same as gnome-shell, right ?20:29
MidnightDevilor I can install the ubunto-gnome-desktop although I'm using the 14.04 ? This release does not have the full shell ?20:29
Beldarthats what it's been called since at least saucy20:29
Beldaryou can just use gnome-shell and get it20:30
Beldar ubuntu-gnome-desktop*20:30
MidnightDevilWell, to be honest I wanted to switch the side bar by a start menu (: and use some plugins like gnome shell did.20:30
MidnightDeviluh, one little thing, how do i fix broken packages?20:32
MidnightDevilThe following packages have unmet dependencies:20:32
MidnightDevil ubuntu-gnome-desktop : Depends: gnome-icon-theme-extras but it is not going to be installed20:32
trismMidnightDevil: do you not have universe enabled?20:33
Beldarsomething has been modified or a repo is closed I don't have the patience to dig through your OS to be honest. ;)20:33
MidnightDevilI do.20:37
trismMidnightDevil: have you run an: sudo apt-get update; yet?20:38
trism!info gnome-icon-theme-extras20:38
ubottugnome-icon-theme-extras (source: gnome-icon-theme-extras): GNOME Desktop icon theme (additional icons). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.6.2-3 (trusty), package size 797 kB, installed size 982 kB20:39
MidnightDevilI did, give me just a sec, gonna run it again.20:39
MidnightDevilJust did, same thing20:39
ice9MidnightDevil: gnome-shell will break some things in Unity20:39
trismMidnightDevil: after that check: apt-cache policy gnome-icon-theme-extras; to see if it is there, if it is, try installing it to see why it isn't installing: sudo apt-get install gnome-icon-theme-extras;20:39
trismMidnightDevil: if it isn't you must not have universe enabled so check out: software-properties-gtk; and make sure the universe box is checked20:40
MidnightDevilGonna use pastebin, but yes, it's installed trism20:41
MidnightDevilErm, no; "Installed: (none)20:41
MidnightDevilThis means not installed I guess (?)20:41
MidnightDevilThe following packages have unmet dependencies:20:42
MidnightDevil gnome-icon-theme-extras : Depends: gnome-icon-theme (>= 3.12) but 3.10.0-0ubuntu2 is to be installed20:42
MidnightDevilE: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.20:42
MidnightDevilThey are all checked.20:42
MidnightDevilMaybe gonna do a reboot :b20:42
trismMidnightDevil: oh I see, hmm, looks like a bug then20:42
MidnightDevilWell20:42
trismthe gnome-icon-theme-extras package may need updating or dropping from the ubuntu-gnome-desktop seed20:43
ice9windows corner looks smooth on an old 14 monitor but on the HD laptop screen it's not20:43
MidnightDevilTo be honest, I miss the mouse on corner to see all windows / app menu on top, if I could get those on unity there no need to get gnome-shell20:43
MidnightDevilice9, not related to refresh rate I hope? (:20:44
trismahh there is a new one in -proposed, 3.12, so probably be fixed soon20:45
MidnightDevilSo, no "plugins" for unity right ?20:45
trismMidnightDevil: if you just wanted a minimal gnome shell you could install gnome-shell and gnome-session20:45
trismMidnightDevil: there are probably some compiz settings to get hot corners like that20:46
trismMidnightDevil: you could check out the settings in compizconfig-settings-manager20:46
MidnightDevilI know trism , but not the menu thing20:46
MidnightDevilAnd to be honest I was avoiding using compiz, a little buggy with flash and stuff20:46
MidnightDevilSome glitches20:47
MidnightDevilI'm gonna give it a go to gnome-shell20:47
MidnightDevilI have to install gnome-session as well ?20:47
trismMidnightDevil: if you are using unity you are using compiz, (except maybe unity8 I guess)20:48
trismMidnightDevil: yeah it has the xsession files so you can log in from lightdm/gdm20:48
MidnightDevilAlright, gonna put those, thanks trism20:48
MidnightDevilbrb20:48
SorenHolmHi21:26
SorenHolmThe environmentvariable  QT_VERSION is set on my system. Where is it set - basically I want to avoid it.21:27
trismSorenHolm: isn't set here on a clean install, maybe you set it previously in ~/.bashrc, ~/.profile? otherwise maybe check out /etc/profile.d/ to see if something is setting it21:30
trismSorenHolm: which desktop?21:31
SorenHolmtrism: kde - it's some qt crap. And it's not in my local-script. It's only set on desktop logins. So some kde-thing does it. The only problem is that I do not know which one. Currently I'm grepping *all* files ti try to find the sinner :)21:32
darkangelCurious* If there is any Broken Package or package that is effecting other packages from getting installed should it be Reported?22:23
odiumhi, my wireless device only functions in kubuntu beta release. can I expect it to work in ubuntu's?22:57
rwwodium: they use the same kernel, so yes22:58
odiumawesome22:59
odiumI owe you all22:59
odiumI don't have anything to offer so I will continue to owe until some day.22:59
odiumI made ashtrays out of old hard drives. O_o they're kinda neat23:01
TJ-odium: Doesn't the ash fly out as they spin? :D23:22
odiumlol.23:24
odiumI just randomly said hi to my neighbor and he said oh I have something for you.. Omg, he just gifted me a beaglebone - it's a tiny computer!23:24
TJ-Yeah, they're really cool for hacking with23:25
odiumI have a cubieboard, a raspi, linux on a goflex and now one of these! all with no money in my pocket what's that?!?23:25
TJ-Well if you get hungry, you can always eat the chips :)23:27
odiumlol. I has food stamps for chips23:27
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TJ-Time to get hacking on something useful :)23:28
oncawhat should I do with it? I wonder. I have to tap it's potential23:28
dante123hi all, trying to install google chrome on trusty tahr and its not working23:33
dante123any ideas?23:33
Beldardante123, How are you installing? not working means little is all.23:37
dante123downloaded it from google site, double clicked deb, software center starts, click install, does not install some message that basically says it didnt install23:39
Beldardante123, This might be helpful. http://www.enqlu.com/2014/03/how-to-install-google-chrome-on-ubuntu.html23:39
dante123im retrying the download in case there was something wrong with deb file23:39
Beldardante123, In genral I prefer gdebi for deb installs, but the link should help.23:41
dante123exact wording from attempt to install by double clicking and then software center is "The installation or mreoval of a software package failed."23:42
dante123I can try CLI no problem, but you'd think the route i took first should work.23:43
dante123retried the download, still did not install.  Now trying CLI commands23:45
dante123CLI worked, but this needs to be fixed before the actual release.  Newbies should be able to download direct from google and install without using cli.23:47
Beldardante123, Do you have a broken install or package, what does a update and upgrade show in the terminal?23:47
dante123CLI method outlined here http://www.enqlu.com/2014/03/how-to-install-google-chrome-on-ubuntu.html worked23:47
dante123I'm just saying that a direct download from google's site ALSO needs to work without newbies needing to go the CLI method before final release.  Just my $0.02 cents worth.23:48
Beldarusually does, never had a fail here.23:48
dante123Well, I'm reporting that downloading it twice and trying to install by double clicking on the deb file for 64bit Ubuntu 14.04 latest beta FAILS.23:49
dante123Actual message from withing Ubuntu Software Center is : "The installation or mreoval of a software package failed."23:50
dante123Beldar, update in terminal went fine.23:50
dante123ran it again and this time got message23:52
dante123Duplicate sources.list entry http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable/main amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages)23:52
dante123but i can fix that by deleting one of the sources via software sources23:53
Beldardante123, Yes, since you attempted multiple installs, open software sources and untick the extra google repo.23:53
Beldaryou git it23:53
Beldargot*23:54
dante123yeah got it23:54
dante123will run update again23:54
Beldarcool, enjoy23:54
dante123ok thanks23:54
dante123all was good that time23:54
dante123i need to add a custom entry for grub2, which file is it that i edit for that and where is it located?23:55
Beldardante123, What kind of entry?23:56
dante123for android x8623:56
dante123i have win 7, ubuntu and android x86 kit kat rc1 on here23:57
Beldardante123, This a boot addition to the kernel, what for android, I have 2 android devices, and no changes in ubuntu.23:57
dante123but you have to manually add the android entry to grub223:57
dante123android x86......Kit Kat version that runs on intel23:57
dante123pc23:57
Beldardante123, Ah you have it installed on the PC?23:58
dante123it works, i had it running before but I forgot where i added the entry.23:58
dante123I should have backed up the custom file before installing trusty tahr but I forgot23:58
Beldardante123, sudo update-grub does not add it to the menu?23:58
TJ-dante123: You can add the file /boot/grub/custom.cfg" to statically add entries without having to do anything special. The "/etc/grub.d/41_custom" ensures that file is sourced if it exists23:58
dante123No it does not.  Because the android x86 uses old grub23:59
dante123ok TJ thanks23:59
TJ-dante123: "old grub" - you mean Grub 1.x rather than 2.x ?23:59
dante123yes23:59

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