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Private_Usereish no power again going to have to log off cheers all06:11
Kilosmorning all06:39
Kilosmorning not_found  you at work?07:57
not_foundyup uncle Kilos 07:59
not_foundhow are you?08:02
Kilosgood ty not_found  and you lad?08:04
not_foundok thx08:04
Kiloswell at least when you work these shifts then you can chat when bored08:18
Kilosor study08:19
not_foundtrue, but plant off so busy 08:21
Kilosah08:22
charl_good morning09:06
charl_Maaz: coffee on09:06
* Maaz flips the salt-timer09:06
Kiloshi charl_  09:06
KilosMaaz  coffee please09:06
MaazKilos: Sure09:07
KilosMaaz  with milk09:08
MaazHaha Kilos You aren't one of those that needs to drink black coffee to be able to cast a shadow!09:08
MaazCoffee's ready for charl_ and Kilos!09:10
KilosMaaz  thanks09:10
MaazKilos: Sure09:10
Kiloswb Tonberry  09:10
charl_wb Tonberry 09:12
charl_hi Kilos 09:12
Kiloscan you see this applet button09:23
Kiloshttp://www.ab9il.net/wlan-projects/wifi6.html09:23
Kilossomewhere my security settings is blocking it09:24
Kilosive even removed firewall09:24
Kiloscharl_  ^^09:24
Kilosi need that site to open that button to be able to use the design tool09:24
Kilosive told firefox and opera to allow popups and whatever else i found to allow but still no luck09:25
Kilosmaybe i need to reboot?09:27
charl_back, looking09:32
charl_where is this applet button? i don't see anything09:33
Kiloshalf way down the page09:33
charl_oh now i see it... "you would see a button here if java worked"09:34
Kilosits java something or other09:34
charl_i don't see a button either09:34
charl_i don't have java applets enabled09:34
charl_those are just plain evil09:34
Kilosshould just spin then open it09:34
Kilosah ok09:34
Kilosthats the only design tool i find but it is an online tool09:35
Kilosi wish they would make the tool downloadable09:35
charl_yes that would make much more sense09:36
charl_or an html5 tool09:36
charl_nobody does java applets anymore09:36
Kilosya but i need to use that tool so have no choice09:43
Kiloslemme see if a reboot will allow it09:44
Kiloswbb09:44
charl_wb Kilos 09:51
charl_clocks moved forward today for summer09:51
Kilosty no change09:51
Kilosgrrr09:51
charl_afaik we are now on the same time zone as you09:51
Kilosive been there before09:51
charl_it's 11:51 here right now09:51
Kilosyeah same09:51
Kilossigh i cant find what security setting is blocking it09:59
charl_do you even have java installed?10:02
Kilosya i even got oracle java 7 to get it going10:05
charl_hmmm10:05
Kilosand jre-headless and default10:05
charl_you have to configure your browser to be able to use it10:05
Kilosi have told ff to use java plugins10:05
Kilosactivated or something10:06
charl_the icedtea-7-plugin package?10:07
Kiloslemme see10:07
charl_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Browser_plugin10:07
Kiloshad icedtea6 but not 710:11
Kilosnope security settings still block it10:17
Kilosgrrrr10:17
Kiloshmmm...13:55
Kiloscharl_  i got it going on small drive without oracle, just all the jre stuff13:56
Kilosnow i need to convert 2mm to inches i think13:56
KilosMaaz  google millimeter to inches converter for 12.0413:57
MaazKilos: "Ring Sizes Conversion Chart - Ask Numbers" http://www.asknumbers.com/RingSize.aspx :: "11 mm caliber - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11_mm_caliber :: "Ring size - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_size :: "Ubuntu Manpage: chm2pdf - A tool convert chm to pdf format"13:57
Maazhttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/chm2pdf.1.html :: "ImageMagick • View topic - convert will result …13:57
Kiloshmm...13:57
Kiloshehe14:01
KilosMaaz  convert 2mm to inches14:01
MaazKilos: 2 mm = 0.078740157 inches14:01
Kilosoh my now that plugin crashed too14:22
Kiloshmm...15:09
Kiloshi kbmonkey  captine  15:09
kbmonkeyhi kilos15:10
Kilosthis doesnt explain anything does it15:11
Kiloshttp://slexy.org/view/s20MKKAUyf15:11
Kilossomewhere i have a security setting stopping a java plugin from working15:12
kbmonkeysjoe the 2g is slow today. trying to download 600MB of updates since 2pm15:12
Kilosthe whole net went slow this avy15:12
kbmonkeyI hope it gets faster, I am trying to use my data before midnight!15:13
Kiloshaha you trying to finish data before it expires15:13
kbmonkeyam installing a rolling release on the laptop :]15:13
Kiloswhich one15:14
kbmonkeydebian testing15:14
Kilosaha15:15
kbmonkeybeen moving the dongle all around the room finding the best spots15:15
Kilosmaybe one day you come to buntu15:15
Kilosthe net is very bad15:15
Kiloswas fine this morning15:15
Kilosbut 2g super sucks15:16
* Kilos smiles with 3.75g15:16
kbmonkeylol I bet you smiling!15:17
kbmonkeyya I want to try 14.04 when I get a copy15:17
kbmonkeyfunny thing is the speed seems to increase when I pick the modem up15:18
Kilosone with a cable to it15:19
kbmonkeywifi15:19
Kilosoh this will help15:19
Kilosoh wifi15:19
Kilosry holding a stainless dish behind it15:19
Kilostry15:19
kbmonkeyok!15:19
Kilosyou know the direction your signal is from dont you15:20
kbmonkeyno I don't know15:20
Kilosthen you gotta turn around slowly till you see speed go up15:20
Kiloswhat wifi antenna you using that you can pick up15:21
Kilosthere are tools for checking signal strengths but they expensive15:21
kbmonkeywifi signal is strong its the mobile network that is slow15:22
kbmonkeymtn15:22
Kiloseish15:23
Kilosgo 8ta man15:24
Kilosthe telkom starter pack modem flies once you get it connected15:24
Kilos3.75g modem for R39915:25
kbmonkeygot 8ta sim and modem, too late to top-up now though15:28
Kilostomorrow is the 31st so still another day 15:28
kbmonkeythey still got that R150 for 3GB deal kilos?15:29
Kilosyeah15:29
Kilosthat all i use15:29
kbmonkeywhat? the 31st? oh my, I am lost in time! xD15:29
kbmonkeythanks oom!15:30
Kilosi was also i just looked at the calender here15:30
kbmonkeyyou made my heart happy 15:30
Kilosthought i could topup tomorrow15:30
Kiloshehe15:30
Kilosi even spend lotsa time on facebook yesterday accepting peeps and adding friends that ive ignored for years15:32
Kilosspent15:35
kbmonkeyI got to finish up this room for tonight, Ill try be back later15:36
Kiloskbmonkey  you still using lynx15:36
Kilosok15:36
kbmonkeyon the shell account sometimes I use elinks15:37
kbmonkeybut on pc I have iceweasel15:37
Kilosopera has a plugin for facebook15:37
charl_ah debian user in our midst :)15:37
Kilosfb purity 15:37
Kilosstops some of the adds and junk15:38
kbmonkeylol charl_ 15:38
Kilosyeah we will have the crashbang kid on buntu somwtime15:38
Kiloscrunchbang15:38
Kilosdaai ding15:39
kbmonkeymonkeybang15:39
Kiloshaha15:40
Kilosyou got a visitor coming tonight?15:40
Kiloshmm...15:40
kbmonkeyoh my! just jumped up to 3G, says 1 hour left. 15:40
Kiloslol15:40
charl_ah openbox ftw215:41
charl_*ftw15:41
kbmonkeythen back to 2g, 20 hours left. ha ha15:41
Kilosouch15:41
charl_used to run openbox on ubuntu but switched to i315:41
kbmonkeyno Kilos no one. I moved yesterday and unpacking today.15:42
Kiloseish15:42
Kilosnot not like the modern world yet15:42
Kilosnever do today what you can put off till tomorrow15:42
kbmonkeycharl_, I am busy setting up debian testing now so that I can get the latest i3 :].15:44
kbmonkeyused to build it from source, but got stuck with the newer libraries coming in15:44
kbmonkeyso figured, hey lets just run testing15:44
charl_debian testing is probably more stable than ubuntu release :)15:46
Kiloseish dont run buntu down here15:47
charl_lol Kilos 15:47
Kiloshehe15:48
kbmonkeyit's dual boot. I'll be interested to see how it turns out...15:48
* superfly uses unstable15:48
Kiloshi superfly  15:48
charl_hi superfly 15:48
kbmonkeythe fly lives on the bleeding edge15:48
Kilosyeah15:48
charl_is unstable even more up to date than testing ?15:49
Kilosthats fine if you know what you are doing15:49
kbmonkeyKilos, now it is getting 300kB/s amazing15:49
charl_i used to run debian 7.4 (stable) but only because i needed an ancient version of the linux kernel in order to use vmware workstation 915:49
Kiloslekker15:49
charl_since upgrading to vmware workstation 10 i'm back on ubuntu 13.1015:49
Kilosmine peaks at 1005kB/s15:49
kbmonkeyon that note Im off to finish up unpacking. nearly done!15:51
superflyexperimental is bleeding edge, unstable is pretty stable15:51
charl_yup... that's debian for you all right :)15:51
superflystable -> testing -> unstable ->experimental15:51
charl_have any of you people tried arch/manjaro ?15:52
charl_i was playing with manjaro and was super impressed15:52
charl_not everything works perfectly and a bunch of packages seem to be somewhat broken15:52
Kilostheblazehen is an arch user15:52
charl_but that which works works amazing15:52
KilosMaaz  seen theblazehen15:53
MaazKilos: theblazehen was last seen 17 days, 22 hours, 42 minutes and 9 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-03-12 10:10:53 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2014-03-14 13:58:53 PDT15:53
Kilossjoe15:53
charl_the thing i really like about manjaro is that it comes with the open virualisation drivers out of the box15:53
charl_so you can run it perfectly inside a VM even from the live cd15:53
charl_and pacman is SUPER fast15:54
superflyarch is for masochists... I want my PC to actually work15:54
Kiloshaha15:54
charl_... right :)15:54
charl_i also heard irssi is for masochists on this channel amoung some other strange things... :)15:55
charl_next thing people will say is vim is also for masochists15:55
Kilosya normal peeps use xchat quassel and konversation15:55
charl_Kilos: that depends on how you define "normal" ;)15:56
Kiloslike me15:56
charl_no comment :D15:56
Kilosjust younger and with all their brains intact15:56
Kilosmaaz google the percentage geeks to normal people16:27
MaazKilos: "Wired 9.12: The Geek Syndrome" http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aspergers_pr.html :: "Click-through rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click-through_rate :: "A geek plays darts - DataGenetics" http://datagenetics.com/blog/january12012/index.html :: "Computer Geeks As Loners? Data Says Otherwise - Slashdot"16:27
Maazhttp://news.slashdot.org/story/14/02/14/1837208/computer-geeks-as-loners-data-says-otherwise :: "W…16:27
Kiloshehe16:27
Kilosi wonder what the percentage actually is16:29
Kiloscharl you should remember from when you were at school16:33
charl_lol what the percentage of geeks to normal people?16:34
charl_i would say 1 to 100 :)16:34
Kiloswhew so min16:34
Kiloshhaha sounds funny hey compared to normal people16:35
Kilosuh oh16:48
Kiloswho killed the pro\16:49
KilosMaaz  tell inetpro fix it16:49
MaazKilos: Sure, I'll tell inetpro on freenode16:49
charl_:)17:02
charl_have a good evening all !17:02
captinehi all.  capped and on 3g... sucks17:51
Kiloshi captine  17:52
Kiloscapped to what?17:54
captinehi Kilos 17:56
captinecapped as in used 73 gig17:57
captineon a 70 gig package17:57
Kiloswow17:57
Kilosyou use lots hey17:57
captinethe wife streams movies from dstv all day17:57
captineand youtube17:57
captine:)17:57
Kilosouch17:58
KilosMaaz  tell charl the security settings were in the java control panel. i didnt even know there was such a thing18:11
MaazKilos: Okay, I'll tell Charl on freenode18:11
KilosTrixar_za  the new sakis switches the modem but none of the other commands work18:24
Kilosthis one moans about lib.h or something18:25
Kiloswill check it again tomorrow18:25
inetprohmm...19:32
Kiloshi inetpro  what broke19:39
Kiloshmm...19:47
=== plague is now known as cr33p
Kiloshi cr33p  19:48
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:55
=== plague is now known as cr33p

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