[06:11] <Private_User> eish no power again going to have to log off cheers all
[06:39] <Kilos> morning all
[07:57] <Kilos> morning not_found  you at work?
[07:59] <not_found> yup uncle Kilos 
[08:02] <not_found> how are you?
[08:04] <Kilos> good ty not_found  and you lad?
[08:04] <not_found> ok thx
[08:18] <Kilos> well at least when you work these shifts then you can chat when bored
[08:19] <Kilos> or study
[08:21] <not_found> true, but plant off so busy 
[08:22] <Kilos> ah
[09:06] <charl_> good morning
[09:06] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[09:06]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[09:06] <Kilos> hi charl_  
[09:06] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee please
[09:07] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure
[09:08] <Kilos> Maaz  with milk
[09:08] <Maaz> Haha Kilos You aren't one of those that needs to drink black coffee to be able to cast a shadow!
[09:10] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_ and Kilos!
[09:10] <Kilos> Maaz  thanks
[09:10] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure
[09:10] <Kilos> wb Tonberry  
[09:12] <charl_> wb Tonberry 
[09:12] <charl_> hi Kilos 
[09:23] <Kilos> can you see this applet button
[09:23] <Kilos> http://www.ab9il.net/wlan-projects/wifi6.html
[09:24] <Kilos> somewhere my security settings is blocking it
[09:24] <Kilos> ive even removed firewall
[09:24] <Kilos> charl_  ^^
[09:24] <Kilos> i need that site to open that button to be able to use the design tool
[09:25] <Kilos> ive told firefox and opera to allow popups and whatever else i found to allow but still no luck
[09:27] <Kilos> maybe i need to reboot?
[09:32] <charl_> back, looking
[09:33] <charl_> where is this applet button? i don't see anything
[09:33] <Kilos> half way down the page
[09:34] <charl_> oh now i see it... "you would see a button here if java worked"
[09:34] <Kilos> its java something or other
[09:34] <charl_> i don't see a button either
[09:34] <charl_> i don't have java applets enabled
[09:34] <charl_> those are just plain evil
[09:34] <Kilos> should just spin then open it
[09:34] <Kilos> ah ok
[09:35] <Kilos> thats the only design tool i find but it is an online tool
[09:35] <Kilos> i wish they would make the tool downloadable
[09:36] <charl_> yes that would make much more sense
[09:36] <charl_> or an html5 tool
[09:36] <charl_> nobody does java applets anymore
[09:43] <Kilos> ya but i need to use that tool so have no choice
[09:44] <Kilos> lemme see if a reboot will allow it
[09:44] <Kilos> wbb
[09:51] <charl_> wb Kilos 
[09:51] <charl_> clocks moved forward today for summer
[09:51] <Kilos> ty no change
[09:51] <Kilos> grrr
[09:51] <charl_> afaik we are now on the same time zone as you
[09:51] <Kilos> ive been there before
[09:51] <charl_> it's 11:51 here right now
[09:51] <Kilos> yeah same
[09:59] <Kilos> sigh i cant find what security setting is blocking it
[10:02] <charl_> do you even have java installed?
[10:05] <Kilos> ya i even got oracle java 7 to get it going
[10:05] <charl_> hmmm
[10:05] <Kilos> and jre-headless and default
[10:05] <charl_> you have to configure your browser to be able to use it
[10:05] <Kilos> i have told ff to use java plugins
[10:06] <Kilos> activated or something
[10:07] <charl_> the icedtea-7-plugin package?
[10:07] <Kilos> lemme see
[10:07] <charl_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Browser_plugin
[10:11] <Kilos> had icedtea6 but not 7
[10:17] <Kilos> nope security settings still block it
[10:17] <Kilos> grrrr
[13:55] <Kilos> hmmm...
[13:56] <Kilos> charl_  i got it going on small drive without oracle, just all the jre stuff
[13:56] <Kilos> now i need to convert 2mm to inches i think
[13:57] <Kilos> Maaz  google millimeter to inches converter for 12.04
[13:57] <Maaz> Kilos: "Ring Sizes Conversion Chart - Ask Numbers" http://www.asknumbers.com/RingSize.aspx :: "11 mm caliber - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11_mm_caliber :: "Ring size - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_size :: "Ubuntu Manpage: chm2pdf - A tool convert chm to pdf format"
[13:57] <Maaz> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/chm2pdf.1.html :: "ImageMagick • View topic - convert will result …
[13:57] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:01] <Kilos> hehe
[14:01] <Kilos> Maaz  convert 2mm to inches
[14:01] <Maaz> Kilos: 2 mm = 0.078740157 inches
[14:22] <Kilos> oh my now that plugin crashed too
[15:09] <Kilos> hmm...
[15:09] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey  captine  
[15:10] <kbmonkey> hi kilos
[15:11] <Kilos> this doesnt explain anything does it
[15:11] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s20MKKAUyf
[15:12] <Kilos> somewhere i have a security setting stopping a java plugin from working
[15:12] <kbmonkey> sjoe the 2g is slow today. trying to download 600MB of updates since 2pm
[15:12] <Kilos> the whole net went slow this avy
[15:13] <kbmonkey> I hope it gets faster, I am trying to use my data before midnight!
[15:13] <Kilos> haha you trying to finish data before it expires
[15:13] <kbmonkey> am installing a rolling release on the laptop :]
[15:14] <Kilos> which one
[15:14] <kbmonkey> debian testing
[15:15] <Kilos> aha
[15:15] <kbmonkey> been moving the dongle all around the room finding the best spots
[15:15] <Kilos> maybe one day you come to buntu
[15:15] <Kilos> the net is very bad
[15:15] <Kilos> was fine this morning
[15:16] <Kilos> but 2g super sucks
[15:16]  * Kilos smiles with 3.75g
[15:17] <kbmonkey> lol I bet you smiling!
[15:17] <kbmonkey> ya I want to try 14.04 when I get a copy
[15:18] <kbmonkey> funny thing is the speed seems to increase when I pick the modem up
[15:19] <Kilos> one with a cable to it
[15:19] <kbmonkey> wifi
[15:19] <Kilos> oh this will help
[15:19] <Kilos> oh wifi
[15:19] <Kilos> ry holding a stainless dish behind it
[15:19] <Kilos> try
[15:19] <kbmonkey> ok!
[15:20] <Kilos> you know the direction your signal is from dont you
[15:20] <kbmonkey> no I don't know
[15:20] <Kilos> then you gotta turn around slowly till you see speed go up
[15:21] <Kilos> what wifi antenna you using that you can pick up
[15:21] <Kilos> there are tools for checking signal strengths but they expensive
[15:22] <kbmonkey> wifi signal is strong its the mobile network that is slow
[15:22] <kbmonkey> mtn
[15:23] <Kilos> eish
[15:24] <Kilos> go 8ta man
[15:24] <Kilos> the telkom starter pack modem flies once you get it connected
[15:25] <Kilos> 3.75g modem for R399
[15:28] <kbmonkey> got 8ta sim and modem, too late to top-up now though
[15:28] <Kilos> tomorrow is the 31st so still another day 
[15:29] <kbmonkey> they still got that R150 for 3GB deal kilos?
[15:29] <Kilos> yeah
[15:29] <Kilos> that all i use
[15:29] <kbmonkey> what? the 31st? oh my, I am lost in time! xD
[15:30] <kbmonkey> thanks oom!
[15:30] <Kilos> i was also i just looked at the calender here
[15:30] <kbmonkey> you made my heart happy 
[15:30] <Kilos> thought i could topup tomorrow
[15:30] <Kilos> hehe
[15:32] <Kilos> i even spend lotsa time on facebook yesterday accepting peeps and adding friends that ive ignored for years
[15:35] <Kilos> spent
[15:36] <kbmonkey> I got to finish up this room for tonight, Ill try be back later
[15:36] <Kilos> kbmonkey  you still using lynx
[15:36] <Kilos> ok
[15:37] <kbmonkey> on the shell account sometimes I use elinks
[15:37] <kbmonkey> but on pc I have iceweasel
[15:37] <Kilos> opera has a plugin for facebook
[15:37] <charl_> ah debian user in our midst :)
[15:37] <Kilos> fb purity 
[15:38] <Kilos> stops some of the adds and junk
[15:38] <kbmonkey> lol charl_ 
[15:38] <Kilos> yeah we will have the crashbang kid on buntu somwtime
[15:38] <Kilos> crunchbang
[15:39] <Kilos> daai ding
[15:39] <kbmonkey> monkeybang
[15:40] <Kilos> haha
[15:40] <Kilos> you got a visitor coming tonight?
[15:40] <Kilos> hmm...
[15:40] <kbmonkey> oh my! just jumped up to 3G, says 1 hour left. 
[15:40] <Kilos> lol
[15:41] <charl_> ah openbox ftw2
[15:41] <charl_> *ftw
[15:41] <kbmonkey> then back to 2g, 20 hours left. ha ha
[15:41] <Kilos> ouch
[15:41] <charl_> used to run openbox on ubuntu but switched to i3
[15:42] <kbmonkey> no Kilos no one. I moved yesterday and unpacking today.
[15:42] <Kilos> eish
[15:42] <Kilos> not not like the modern world yet
[15:42] <Kilos> never do today what you can put off till tomorrow
[15:44] <kbmonkey> charl_, I am busy setting up debian testing now so that I can get the latest i3 :].
[15:44] <kbmonkey> used to build it from source, but got stuck with the newer libraries coming in
[15:44] <kbmonkey> so figured, hey lets just run testing
[15:46] <charl_> debian testing is probably more stable than ubuntu release :)
[15:47] <Kilos> eish dont run buntu down here
[15:47] <charl_> lol Kilos 
[15:48] <Kilos> hehe
[15:48] <kbmonkey> it's dual boot. I'll be interested to see how it turns out...
[15:48]  * superfly uses unstable
[15:48] <Kilos> hi superfly  
[15:48] <charl_> hi superfly 
[15:48] <kbmonkey> the fly lives on the bleeding edge
[15:48] <Kilos> yeah
[15:49] <charl_> is unstable even more up to date than testing ?
[15:49] <Kilos> thats fine if you know what you are doing
[15:49] <kbmonkey> Kilos, now it is getting 300kB/s amazing
[15:49] <charl_> i used to run debian 7.4 (stable) but only because i needed an ancient version of the linux kernel in order to use vmware workstation 9
[15:49] <Kilos> lekker
[15:49] <charl_> since upgrading to vmware workstation 10 i'm back on ubuntu 13.10
[15:49] <Kilos> mine peaks at 1005kB/s
[15:51] <kbmonkey> on that note Im off to finish up unpacking. nearly done!
[15:51] <superfly> experimental is bleeding edge, unstable is pretty stable
[15:51] <charl_> yup... that's debian for you all right :)
[15:51] <superfly> stable -> testing -> unstable ->experimental
[15:52] <charl_> have any of you people tried arch/manjaro ?
[15:52] <charl_> i was playing with manjaro and was super impressed
[15:52] <charl_> not everything works perfectly and a bunch of packages seem to be somewhat broken
[15:52] <Kilos> theblazehen is an arch user
[15:52] <charl_> but that which works works amazing
[15:53] <Kilos> Maaz  seen theblazehen
[15:53] <Maaz> Kilos: theblazehen was last seen 17 days, 22 hours, 42 minutes and 9 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-03-12 10:10:53 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2014-03-14 13:58:53 PDT
[15:53] <Kilos> sjoe
[15:53] <charl_> the thing i really like about manjaro is that it comes with the open virualisation drivers out of the box
[15:53] <charl_> so you can run it perfectly inside a VM even from the live cd
[15:54] <charl_> and pacman is SUPER fast
[15:54] <superfly> arch is for masochists... I want my PC to actually work
[15:54] <Kilos> haha
[15:54] <charl_> ... right :)
[15:55] <charl_> i also heard irssi is for masochists on this channel amoung some other strange things... :)
[15:55] <charl_> next thing people will say is vim is also for masochists
[15:55] <Kilos> ya normal peeps use xchat quassel and konversation
[15:56] <charl_> Kilos: that depends on how you define "normal" ;)
[15:56] <Kilos> like me
[15:56] <charl_> no comment :D
[15:56] <Kilos> just younger and with all their brains intact
[16:27] <Kilos> maaz google the percentage geeks to normal people
[16:27] <Maaz> Kilos: "Wired 9.12: The Geek Syndrome" http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aspergers_pr.html :: "Click-through rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click-through_rate :: "A geek plays darts - DataGenetics" http://datagenetics.com/blog/january12012/index.html :: "Computer Geeks As Loners? Data Says Otherwise - Slashdot"
[16:27] <Maaz> http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/02/14/1837208/computer-geeks-as-loners-data-says-otherwise :: "W…
[16:27] <Kilos> hehe
[16:29] <Kilos> i wonder what the percentage actually is
[16:33] <Kilos> charl you should remember from when you were at school
[16:34] <charl_> lol what the percentage of geeks to normal people?
[16:34] <charl_> i would say 1 to 100 :)
[16:34] <Kilos> whew so min
[16:35] <Kilos> hhaha sounds funny hey compared to normal people
[16:48] <Kilos> uh oh
[16:49] <Kilos> who killed the pro\
[16:49] <Kilos> Maaz  tell inetpro fix it
[16:49] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure, I'll tell inetpro on freenode
[17:02] <charl_> :)
[17:02] <charl_> have a good evening all !
[17:51] <captine> hi all.  capped and on 3g... sucks
[17:52] <Kilos> hi captine  
[17:54] <Kilos> capped to what?
[17:56] <captine> hi Kilos 
[17:57] <captine> capped as in used 73 gig
[17:57] <captine> on a 70 gig package
[17:57] <Kilos> wow
[17:57] <Kilos> you use lots hey
[17:57] <captine> the wife streams movies from dstv all day
[17:57] <captine> and youtube
[17:57] <captine> :)
[17:58] <Kilos> ouch
[18:11] <Kilos> Maaz  tell charl the security settings were in the java control panel. i didnt even know there was such a thing
[18:11] <Maaz> Kilos: Okay, I'll tell Charl on freenode
[18:24] <Kilos> Trixar_za  the new sakis switches the modem but none of the other commands work
[18:25] <Kilos> this one moans about lib.h or something
[18:25] <Kilos> will check it again tomorrow
[19:32] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:39] <Kilos> hi inetpro  what broke
[19:47] <Kilos> hmm...
[19:48] <Kilos> hi cr33p  
[19:55] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight