[06:11] eish no power again going to have to log off cheers all [06:39] morning all [07:57] morning not_found you at work? [07:59] yup uncle Kilos [08:02] how are you? [08:04] good ty not_found and you lad? [08:04] ok thx [08:18] well at least when you work these shifts then you can chat when bored [08:19] or study [08:21] true, but plant off so busy [08:22] ah [09:06] good morning [09:06] Maaz: coffee on [09:06] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [09:06] hi charl_ [09:06] Maaz coffee please [09:07] Kilos: Sure [09:08] Maaz with milk [09:08] Haha Kilos You aren't one of those that needs to drink black coffee to be able to cast a shadow! [09:10] Coffee's ready for charl_ and Kilos! [09:10] Maaz thanks [09:10] Kilos: Sure [09:10] wb Tonberry [09:12] wb Tonberry [09:12] hi Kilos [09:23] can you see this applet button [09:23] http://www.ab9il.net/wlan-projects/wifi6.html [09:24] somewhere my security settings is blocking it [09:24] ive even removed firewall [09:24] charl_ ^^ [09:24] i need that site to open that button to be able to use the design tool [09:25] ive told firefox and opera to allow popups and whatever else i found to allow but still no luck [09:27] maybe i need to reboot? [09:32] back, looking [09:33] where is this applet button? i don't see anything [09:33] half way down the page [09:34] oh now i see it... "you would see a button here if java worked" [09:34] its java something or other [09:34] i don't see a button either [09:34] i don't have java applets enabled [09:34] those are just plain evil [09:34] should just spin then open it [09:34] ah ok [09:35] thats the only design tool i find but it is an online tool [09:35] i wish they would make the tool downloadable [09:36] yes that would make much more sense [09:36] or an html5 tool [09:36] nobody does java applets anymore [09:43] ya but i need to use that tool so have no choice [09:44] lemme see if a reboot will allow it [09:44] wbb [09:51] wb Kilos [09:51] clocks moved forward today for summer [09:51] ty no change [09:51] grrr [09:51] afaik we are now on the same time zone as you [09:51] ive been there before [09:51] it's 11:51 here right now [09:51] yeah same [09:59] sigh i cant find what security setting is blocking it [10:02] do you even have java installed? [10:05] ya i even got oracle java 7 to get it going [10:05] hmmm [10:05] and jre-headless and default [10:05] you have to configure your browser to be able to use it [10:05] i have told ff to use java plugins [10:06] activated or something [10:07] the icedtea-7-plugin package? [10:07] lemme see [10:07] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Browser_plugin [10:11] had icedtea6 but not 7 [10:17] nope security settings still block it [10:17] grrrr [13:55] hmmm... [13:56] charl_ i got it going on small drive without oracle, just all the jre stuff [13:56] now i need to convert 2mm to inches i think [13:57] Maaz google millimeter to inches converter for 12.04 [13:57] Kilos: "Ring Sizes Conversion Chart - Ask Numbers" http://www.asknumbers.com/RingSize.aspx :: "11 mm caliber - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11_mm_caliber :: "Ring size - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_size :: "Ubuntu Manpage: chm2pdf - A tool convert chm to pdf format" [13:57] http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/chm2pdf.1.html :: "ImageMagick • View topic - convert will result … [13:57] hmm... [14:01] hehe [14:01] Maaz convert 2mm to inches [14:01] Kilos: 2 mm = 0.078740157 inches [14:22] oh my now that plugin crashed too [15:09] hmm... [15:09] hi kbmonkey captine [15:10] hi kilos [15:11] this doesnt explain anything does it [15:11] http://slexy.org/view/s20MKKAUyf [15:12] somewhere i have a security setting stopping a java plugin from working [15:12] sjoe the 2g is slow today. trying to download 600MB of updates since 2pm [15:12] the whole net went slow this avy [15:13] I hope it gets faster, I am trying to use my data before midnight! [15:13] haha you trying to finish data before it expires [15:13] am installing a rolling release on the laptop :] [15:14] which one [15:14] debian testing [15:15] aha [15:15] been moving the dongle all around the room finding the best spots [15:15] maybe one day you come to buntu [15:15] the net is very bad [15:15] was fine this morning [15:16] but 2g super sucks [15:16] * Kilos smiles with 3.75g [15:17] lol I bet you smiling! [15:17] ya I want to try 14.04 when I get a copy [15:18] funny thing is the speed seems to increase when I pick the modem up [15:19] one with a cable to it [15:19] wifi [15:19] oh this will help [15:19] oh wifi [15:19] ry holding a stainless dish behind it [15:19] try [15:19] ok! [15:20] you know the direction your signal is from dont you [15:20] no I don't know [15:20] then you gotta turn around slowly till you see speed go up [15:21] what wifi antenna you using that you can pick up [15:21] there are tools for checking signal strengths but they expensive [15:22] wifi signal is strong its the mobile network that is slow [15:22] mtn [15:23] eish [15:24] go 8ta man [15:24] the telkom starter pack modem flies once you get it connected [15:25] 3.75g modem for R399 [15:28] got 8ta sim and modem, too late to top-up now though [15:28] tomorrow is the 31st so still another day [15:29] they still got that R150 for 3GB deal kilos? [15:29] yeah [15:29] that all i use [15:29] what? the 31st? oh my, I am lost in time! xD [15:30] thanks oom! [15:30] i was also i just looked at the calender here [15:30] you made my heart happy [15:30] thought i could topup tomorrow [15:30] hehe [15:32] i even spend lotsa time on facebook yesterday accepting peeps and adding friends that ive ignored for years [15:35] spent [15:36] I got to finish up this room for tonight, Ill try be back later [15:36] kbmonkey you still using lynx [15:36] ok [15:37] on the shell account sometimes I use elinks [15:37] but on pc I have iceweasel [15:37] opera has a plugin for facebook [15:37] ah debian user in our midst :) [15:37] fb purity [15:38] stops some of the adds and junk [15:38] lol charl_ [15:38] yeah we will have the crashbang kid on buntu somwtime [15:38] crunchbang [15:39] daai ding [15:39] monkeybang [15:40] haha [15:40] you got a visitor coming tonight? [15:40] hmm... [15:40] oh my! just jumped up to 3G, says 1 hour left. [15:40] lol [15:41] ah openbox ftw2 [15:41] *ftw [15:41] then back to 2g, 20 hours left. ha ha [15:41] ouch [15:41] used to run openbox on ubuntu but switched to i3 [15:42] no Kilos no one. I moved yesterday and unpacking today. [15:42] eish [15:42] not not like the modern world yet [15:42] never do today what you can put off till tomorrow [15:44] charl_, I am busy setting up debian testing now so that I can get the latest i3 :]. [15:44] used to build it from source, but got stuck with the newer libraries coming in [15:44] so figured, hey lets just run testing [15:46] debian testing is probably more stable than ubuntu release :) [15:47] eish dont run buntu down here [15:47] lol Kilos [15:48] hehe [15:48] it's dual boot. I'll be interested to see how it turns out... [15:48] * superfly uses unstable [15:48] hi superfly [15:48] hi superfly [15:48] the fly lives on the bleeding edge [15:48] yeah [15:49] is unstable even more up to date than testing ? [15:49] thats fine if you know what you are doing [15:49] Kilos, now it is getting 300kB/s amazing [15:49] i used to run debian 7.4 (stable) but only because i needed an ancient version of the linux kernel in order to use vmware workstation 9 [15:49] lekker [15:49] since upgrading to vmware workstation 10 i'm back on ubuntu 13.10 [15:49] mine peaks at 1005kB/s [15:51] on that note Im off to finish up unpacking. nearly done! [15:51] experimental is bleeding edge, unstable is pretty stable [15:51] yup... that's debian for you all right :) [15:51] stable -> testing -> unstable ->experimental [15:52] have any of you people tried arch/manjaro ? [15:52] i was playing with manjaro and was super impressed [15:52] not everything works perfectly and a bunch of packages seem to be somewhat broken [15:52] theblazehen is an arch user [15:52] but that which works works amazing [15:53] Maaz seen theblazehen [15:53] Kilos: theblazehen was last seen 17 days, 22 hours, 42 minutes and 9 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-03-12 10:10:53 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2014-03-14 13:58:53 PDT [15:53] sjoe [15:53] the thing i really like about manjaro is that it comes with the open virualisation drivers out of the box [15:53] so you can run it perfectly inside a VM even from the live cd [15:54] and pacman is SUPER fast [15:54] arch is for masochists... I want my PC to actually work [15:54] haha [15:54] ... right :) [15:55] i also heard irssi is for masochists on this channel amoung some other strange things... :) [15:55] next thing people will say is vim is also for masochists [15:55] ya normal peeps use xchat quassel and konversation [15:56] Kilos: that depends on how you define "normal" ;) [15:56] like me [15:56] no comment :D [15:56] just younger and with all their brains intact [16:27] maaz google the percentage geeks to normal people [16:27] Kilos: "Wired 9.12: The Geek Syndrome" http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aspergers_pr.html :: "Click-through rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click-through_rate :: "A geek plays darts - DataGenetics" http://datagenetics.com/blog/january12012/index.html :: "Computer Geeks As Loners? Data Says Otherwise - Slashdot" [16:27] http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/02/14/1837208/computer-geeks-as-loners-data-says-otherwise :: "W… [16:27] hehe [16:29] i wonder what the percentage actually is [16:33] charl you should remember from when you were at school [16:34] lol what the percentage of geeks to normal people? [16:34] i would say 1 to 100 :) [16:34] whew so min [16:35] hhaha sounds funny hey compared to normal people [16:48] uh oh [16:49] who killed the pro\ [16:49] Maaz tell inetpro fix it [16:49] Kilos: Sure, I'll tell inetpro on freenode [17:02] :) [17:02] have a good evening all ! [17:51] hi all. capped and on 3g... sucks [17:52] hi captine [17:54] capped to what? [17:56] hi Kilos [17:57] capped as in used 73 gig [17:57] on a 70 gig package [17:57] wow [17:57] you use lots hey [17:57] the wife streams movies from dstv all day [17:57] and youtube [17:57] :) [17:58] ouch [18:11] Maaz tell charl the security settings were in the java control panel. i didnt even know there was such a thing [18:11] Kilos: Okay, I'll tell Charl on freenode [18:24] Trixar_za the new sakis switches the modem but none of the other commands work [18:25] this one moans about lib.h or something [18:25] will check it again tomorrow [19:32] hmm... [19:39] hi inetpro what broke [19:47] hmm... === plague is now known as cr33p [19:48] hi cr33p [19:55] night all. sleep tight === plague is now known as cr33p