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Helena222Beldar, everything looks absolutely great and perfect, Ubuntu booted perfectly with no warning messages of any missing disk, W8 booted great and has C: and D: as I exactly wanted, so THANKS AGAIN!!!!00:01
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lickalottgents, is there an NZB client that is command line based?00:05
AnonynimityUnable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $Display for x11 error00:05
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daftykinslickalott: inappropriate query for here methinks00:06
AnonynimityHi Kira.00:06
xar-daftykins: nzb has plenty of practical uses00:06
AnonynimityMeth inks?00:07
daftykinslike? :) (serious question)00:07
RainMan28guys i'm trying to rdp into my ubuntu 12.04 system from windows. I installed xrdp and am able to connect and login but then only see a blank desktop wallpaper00:07
AnonynimityWhat are you high? Lol. Jk00:07
lickalottok.  sry man00:08
xar-usenet is essentially a text forum daftykins00:08
xar-Anonynimity: did you try pine?00:08
AnonynimityWhats pine?00:08
xar-Anonynimity: pine supports NNTP00:09
daftykinsxar- wrong guy00:09
AnonynimityNo idea what that is..00:09
xar-Anonynimity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders#Text-based00:09
xar-daftykins: what do you mean?00:09
daftykinsxar-: it was lickalott asking00:10
xar-ah, lickalott: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders#Text-based00:10
xar-sorry Anonynimity00:10
AnonynimityLol00:11
xenoxsisHi everyone :00:11
xar-lickalott: pine looks promising00:12
xar-lickalott: it's as old as the internet00:12
xenoxsisIs there a way to start a program automatically in Ubuntu? At startup I mean?00:12
lickalotttks!  i'll check it out.00:12
lickalottxenoxsis, stick it in /etc/rc2.d as a script00:13
AnonynimityGnome works but i have no toolbar (applications, places, etc...00:13
lickalottor make a cron job00:13
xar-xenoxsis: @reboot cron task; @reboot /path/to/script00:13
xenoxsislickalott, very much a new linux/ubuntu user here - So could you elaborate a touch as to the "script" part? :)00:13
xar-xenoxsis: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html00:13
lickalott^^00:13
xenoxsislol - thanks :) And I'll find cron jobs in there I take it :)00:14
xar-xenoxsis: also: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/00:14
xenoxsisoh I thought it was a "ubuntu getting started" guide :)00:14
amproIn GThumb, does anyone know if there's a way to apply a tag to multiple photos at the same time?00:15
AnonynimityBatch-tag?00:15
RainMan28how can I automatically accept the defaults when i do apt-get install?00:16
instarHi all00:16
Anonynimity-D?00:16
amproAnonynimity: Is that an answer?  Is it a command line option or something?  Or are you looking for clarification from me?00:16
xenoxsisxar-: thank you so much :) It's somewhat confusing to move to linux when you've always used windows :)00:16
amproAnonynimity: Yes, though, that's what I"d like to do, I just don't know how to do it.00:16
AnonynimityIt was clarification... Was half joking...00:16
xar-xenoxsis: if you can read and have patience, you'll be fine. good luck :)00:17
amproAnonynimity: ok00:17
xenoxsisxar-: I read...And as for the patience, we'll have to see :) But so far I've managed - Thanks :)00:17
AnonynimityDont know... Having issues myself... But will find out as soon as this is fixed ampro00:17
RainMan28how can I automatically accept the defaults when i do apt-get install?00:18
AnonynimityUsing my phone to chat.00:18
amproAnonynimity: I've been poking around in GThumb for quite a while, but haven't found a way.  What's your current issue?00:18
BeldarRainMan28, Context?00:18
AnonynimityRainMan28 use the default switch?00:18
balsaqwhen a person install ubuntu 12.04 and DOES NOT use the advanced partiioning tools, and ubuntu installs as default...how much of a swap partition is created by ubuntu?00:18
RainMan28Beldar: if I do sudo apt-get install somepackage it then asks Y/n on the package...I want it to automatically just choose the default (Yes in this case) without prompting00:19
balsaqand also can the swap be made ;ater using a fast usb flash drive?00:19
balsaqlater*00:19
balsaqthus speeding it up potentially00:20
Chuck_Norrisaloha all...00:20
AnonynimitySomething was removed... Didnt have a gui... Having to reinstall the gui(s) piece by piece. Installed gnome but dont have any sort of applications, etc... Ampro00:20
BeldarRainMan28, You can run a force I think it's called, could be an issue on a partial or broken upgrade however.00:20
Chuck_Norrisany sugguestion:  http://i.imgur.com/C99fEeR.png  -.-00:20
AnonynimityRainman28 use apt-get install thispackage -y -q00:21
RainMan28ah ok00:21
xanguaChuck_Norris: on what¿ please describe your issue00:21
RainMan28Anonynimity: can those flags go before the package name?00:21
amproAnonynimity: Have you tried installing the meta-package?  Would probably be something like ubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop?00:21
ClickAheadHi I'm trying to reinstall over an existing installation. I'm running the live image from a usb disk. I'm only one step from clicking "install now". That is "Device for boot loader installation" I don't know what to select there. My usb drive is selected by default. I had been dual booting with windows. What is the correct option?00:22
AnonynimityI did install ubuntu-desktop ... No unity and still no shortcut panel00:22
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AnonynimityRainman28 use after the package name.00:22
Chuck_Norrisi am just bragging :p00:22
RainMan28Anonynimity: will apt-get --yes install packagename work?00:23
AnonynimityI would just use -y00:23
RainMan28Anonynimity: ok but can i use -y before the package name?00:23
AnonynimityAmpro installing 510 packages on cli00:24
amproAnonynimity: weird, because ubuntu-desktop depends on unity...00:24
AnonynimityStrange.00:24
amproampro: well then, you do know you can do them all at once if you have the list, right?00:24
amprohaha, i mean Anonynimity00:24
amprotalking to myself...00:24
AnonynimityI dont have the list ampro00:25
balsaqi did not do custom (advanced partitions) and ubuntu is installing itself as we speak...now i am wondering about thw swap file? it never asked me to make one?00:25
balsaqwill ubuntu make a sawp for me on its own?00:26
amproAnonynimity: so how are you doing it?  looking for what you're missing and reinstalling each thing as you figure out it's missing?00:26
AnonynimityAmpro need help with something else if youre up for it...00:26
AnonynimityYup ampro.00:26
amproAnonynimity: could certainly try.00:26
amproAnonynimity: what did you use to install ubuntu-desktop?  apt-get or software center or what?00:27
AnonynimityOnce im back up and running... Want to port ubuntu touch to the d2att.00:27
dragslavejhj00:27
AnonynimityI used apt-get on the cli ampro00:27
amproAnonynimity: way out of my league00:27
amproAnonynimity: I wonder if there's a good reinstall switch that will pull dependencies.  It seems like it probably just saw that the package was already there and said done.00:28
aidalgolI'm running rsync with --safe-links and --delete, but it's still deleting absolute symlinks that are only on the remote host.00:28
AnonynimityI tried before but it gave me compile errors.00:28
daftykinsampro: i had Anonynimity install ubuntu-desktop^ earlier which pulls in all deps.00:29
amproapparently not, though, for some reason.  was it already there, or did it actually install it, but not pull dependencies (for some crazy unknown reason,, since that's apt's sole purpose...?)00:30
amproAnonynimity: It looks like maybe apt-get -f would help:  http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get  Not sure if that's all of it, or if you'd want to specify ubuntu-desktop or install or anything like taht, but I'd try apt-get -f first and build from there00:32
amproAnonynimity: or just --reinstall00:33
amproAnonynimity: If you just did install again the last time, maybe it did quit because it as already there and wasn't told to reinstall00:34
AnonynimitySays client failed to connect to the dbus-daemon00:34
amproAnonynimity: what command?00:35
AnonynimityApt-get install gnome-*00:35
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amproAnonynimity: I don't know.  But there has to be a better way (meta-package) to get Gnome, too, though I thought you wanted Unity.00:36
AnonynimityI do but have to figure something out so i can use the desktop first...00:37
amproAnonynimity: Anyway, my recommendation is "apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop" with a sudo if you need it00:38
amproAnonynimity: and if that doesn't work, trying to figure out the -f switch00:38
AnonynimityWill try once unity reinstalls. Apt-get install -f00:39
dioioibif you want gnome desktop you need to install gdm and it takes a little bit to get setup.00:42
ax562I'm running ubuntu 12.04 LTS and I am looking for a solution.  My problem is when I unmount my external hardrive I cannot remount it unless I restart computer.00:44
Beldarax562, YOu have it mounting in fstab?00:45
amproax562: do you unmount or "eject"00:45
ampro?00:45
ax562I eject using the eject button in file manager00:46
AnonynimityFood!00:46
ax562I have tried just unplugging drive also with no luck00:46
syadnomhi all, anyone alive?00:46
AnonynimityNope. All dead here.00:46
ax562the problem is once disconnected the OS doesn't detect it at all00:47
amproax562: Maybe try unmounting in terminal and see if it lets you remount it then?  I think eject is weird with actual drives that aren't detectable00:47
AnonynimityLol jk00:47
amproax562: sudo umount /mount/point00:47
AnonynimityUse the mounts command?00:47
syadnomanyone running ubuntu w/ '/' as btrfs in a raid1 for data + meta?00:47
amproax562: and if it works you could make a launcher or something for it00:47
amproax562: if you didn't want to have to go to terminal every time00:48
Beldar!anyone|syadnom00:48
syadnomI'm entertaining the idea of migrating from my typical raid1 setup to btrfs for simplicity00:48
ax562ok, that is a solution.  Is that the only way to go?  Shouldn't ubuntu work properly?00:48
amproax562: you tried it and it worked?00:48
syadnomBeldar, ?00:48
Beldarsyadnom, bots running slow, state the actual issue for help.00:48
BeldarTo the channel not me00:49
syadnomBeldar, no issue, just fishing..00:49
ax562ampro: no I do not want to reset computer yet.  Watching live game.  I will on commercial break.  Shouldn't ubuntu work properly though?00:49
Beldarsyadnom, This is support.00:49
ccafns-420q/ dragslave00:49
AnonynimityWell ubuntu desktop is half assed working...00:50
amproax562: just a user, myself.  yeah, that would be nice, though!  :)  I have no idea why it gives eject as an option, and maybe that's fixable somehow.  But I don't know how to do it.00:50
amproax562: and that's assuming my solution actually makes a difference00:50
lickalottxar-, nzbget (in case anyone else asks)00:50
syadnomso.....not an appropriate place to ask for advice and get opinions then...00:50
amproeither way, i think my way is easier than rebooting, and harder than it working properly in the first place.  :)00:50
geomyidae_hi, how can I "dump" my current modeline in the proper xorg.conf format?00:50
geomyidae_I'm kind of in shock that xrandr accepts modes in that format, but won't dump it back out in that format :/00:51
ax562I'm coming from 11.04 and never had that problem00:51
amproAnonynimity: What did it, and how only half working?00:51
ax562Isn't LTS long term support?  How much longer to fix this issue lol?00:51
amproax562: Yeah, the older versions didn't do it, I do know that.   And yes, it is, and I don't know :)00:52
AnonynimityLogs into deaktop. Desktop is blank. No launcher or anything else, cant access terminal, etc.00:52
amproAnonynimity: and what did you do to get to that point?00:53
ax562does anyone know how ubuntu handles mounting in general?  Specifically automatic ext hd detection and mounting?00:53
ax562maybe I can take a shot at it...00:53
AnonynimityApt-get install --reinstall unity then ubuntu-desktop00:53
amproax562: I can tell you that i'm running a livecd of a 14.04 alpha right now and that it seems to work better in this.  so if you're going to upgrade to the next LTS, your solution should be right around the corner.00:55
ax562I'll be back. reset in progress.00:55
amproAnonynimity: hm, weird00:55
Anonynimity:?00:55
ax562thanks ampro!00:55
amprolet me know if umounting manually helps00:56
AnonynimityGot my panel for gnome atleast00:57
RainMan28how can i manually force an motd to update instead of waiting for the 10 mins to expire?00:57
amproAnonynimity: Maybe worth reinstalling?  How custom configured was the system, and do you have a backup drive to move your data to?00:58
AnonynimityWas custom configured all to hell... Took me weeks... No backup drive for this much data...00:59
amproAnonynimity: Most of your usual config is going to be in your dotfiles in the home folders anyway, and shouldn't have been deleted when you accidentally uninstalled everything00:59
amproAnonynimity: and home folder's on the same partition as root?00:59
owen1i just finished installing ubuntu 64bit on thinkpad. i boot the laptop and i see 'Operating system not found'00:59
owen1any tips?00:59
AnonynimityI used the autoremove...01:00
AnonynimityDont know.01:00
amproAnonynimity: Doesn't matter.  Check your home folder with ctrl-h and see01:00
amproAnonynimity: if you didn't do it otherwise deliberately, your home folder is on the same partition as root, which makes it harder to restore without a backup drive01:01
amproAnonynimity: is your hard drive more than half full?01:01
guest-ibyS7xI want to be able to map effectual change. As in something with an outcome guaging external pressures on both introverted energy and extroverted energy used toward environmental change.01:01
RainMan28how can i manually force an motd to update instead of waiting for the 10 mins to expire?01:01
AnonynimityProbably ampro... Sec01:01
AnonynimityYes. Second os was installed because the pos wasnt booting a gui... Going to remove the partition.01:02
guest-ibyS7xAny remember back to columbine? There are those inland that do not tolerate the lack of change. And there are soldiers on the exterior of this sphere misdirected.01:03
amproAnonynimity: yes was to what?  over half full?01:03
AnonynimityYes.01:03
balsaqcan i use a flash drive to make my ubuntu swap...i kinda blew it during install and did not make a big fat swap01:03
amproAnonynimity: If you can make a second partition, you coudl use it to back up, then reinstall to first partition, restore, delete extra partition, expand main partition01:03
guest-ibyS7x"sphere" of circumstances, the designed pressures within the social groups01:03
* balsaq blushes...01:03
Rad-is gcc installed on ubuntu by default?01:03
AnonynimityNot taking weeks to reconfigure everything... This is a special ubuntu version.01:04
RainMan28guest-ibyS7x: who are you talking to01:04
Rad-Also, what's the difference between libxml2 and libxml2-dev on ubuntu?01:05
Flannelguest-ibyS7x: Please keep things on topic for this channel, thanks.01:05
RainMan28how can i manually force an motd to update instead of waiting for the 10 mins to expire?01:05
RainMan28or better question, why is my motd not updating after i made changes to the scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/01:06
amproAnonynimity: but what didn't you lose when you lost your entire desktop?  Up to you, of course, but it sounds like you dont' h ave much more to lose if you coudl back up what you can01:06
AnonynimityDownloaded the windows 7 source code and rewrote it so ubuntu would understand its instructions... Took some stuff out and added some things... Built it for ubuntu... Can natively run exe files without wine or anything else. Supports ms office.01:06
amprohm ok01:07
AnonynimityI hardcoded that into my ubuntu os itself. I have alot of work lost if i do that.01:07
GraemeLionYou mean the kernel.01:08
GraemeLionAs what you're describing would also include kernel stuff01:08
AnonynimitySo yes... Its customized all to hell. Kernel was part of it... Yes01:08
amproAnonynimity: So just use explorer as your desktop shell :)01:09
GraemeLionyeah.01:09
AnonynimityNot that simple. I removed explorer to free up resources.01:09
guest-ibyS7xtalking to RainMan28 now01:09
FlannelRainMan28: I don't believe the motd itself caches, each individual script in /etc/update-motd.d/ will sometimes do some caching though.01:10
RainMan28Flannel: ah i changed 99-footer and 01-custom-header and neither of the changes have reflected on login, even after 15 mins of waiting01:10
RainMan28Flannel: is there any way to clear the cache?01:11
logicalhello everyone,  are there any widgets for ubuntu, i want to put a big clock to the right side of screen, I didnt found anything useful googling only stuff for ubuntu 10 or 11 v01:13
GraemeLionlogical: With some configuration, conky can do that for you01:13
GraemeLionhttp://conky.sourceforge.net/01:13
logicali dont know what conky is but i will search for it01:13
FlannelRainMan28: There is no "cache" in a single location, the scripts themselves do the caching and checking inside the script.  Neither of those do any caching, that I'm aware of.  So they should update every interactive login, via pam_motd.01:13
RainMan28Flannel: yeah, it doesn't seem to be updating. Should I reboot the box?01:14
amprological: Also, probably way overkill just to get a clock, but KDE is all about widgets these days, so you could always check out Kubuntu.01:14
FlannelRainMan28: No, that seems silly.01:15
logicalty for answers people01:15
RainMan28Flannel: thought so too, just not sure what else to do01:15
RainMan28Flannel: I have 01-custom-header in /etc/update-motd.d/ set to: sh /etc/update-motd.d/welcom | /usr/games/cowsay -n01:15
RainMan28if I run that same command from the prompt it works perfectly01:15
RainMan28but it doesn't seem to be showing at login, instead it shows an old version of contents that were in 01-custom-header01:16
FlannelSo, that's not a new file?  (which means it's likely already set to executable?)01:16
logicalGraemeLion: ampro: what do you think about plexydesk?01:16
logicalhttp://www.noobslab.com/2014/02/plexydesk-offers-lightweight-widgets.html01:17
GraemeLionlogical: Never tried it01:18
lastkIs there a way to list a couple of versions of a package? I need downgrade my php version but I just know how to install latest version01:18
amprological: Yeah, I know nothing about it, but it does *look* nice from the screenshots I found.  Not much of a widgets guy, though, personally.01:19
logicalok, thx01:19
amprological: Can't hurt (much) to try it out :)01:19
logicalwell you could help me here, i already tryied to install it but i get something wrong, i will paste the code from terminal..01:21
FlannelRainMan28: Is the output present when you run `run parts /etc/update-motd.d/`?01:22
daftykinslogical: using paste.ubuntu.com i hope!01:22
RainMan28Flannel: No command 'run' found01:23
FlannelRainMan28: Sorry, run-parts01:23
logicalhere http://paste.ubuntu.com/7177191/01:23
ekodauhmhi, how to enable direct render on a graphic card please ?01:23
logicaldaftykins: ofc :D01:23
RainMan28Flannel: ahh, getting some error messages01:23
guest-ibyS7xIt said 'Do not take the name of root in vain.'01:24
FlannelRainMan28: Sounds that that's your reason!01:24
RainMan28Flannel: failed to exec /etc/update-motd.d//01-custom-header: Exec format error01:24
depoopHey01:24
ekodauhmno help ?01:26
RainMan28Flannel: would the falling not be the right way to run a script in the motd directory: /etc/update-motd.d/welcome | /usr/games/cowsay -n01:28
RainMan28sorry, following*01:28
FlannelRainMan28: pastebin the whole 01-custom-header file, and the whole welcome file.01:29
RainMan28Flannel: ok01:29
amprological: Because of the "unstable" part, it sounds like that error is more meant for Debian.  What version of Ubuntu?01:29
logical14.0401:29
guest-ibyS7xRainMan28, Where was the cowsay gotten?01:29
logicalI would not try to install it if it didnt sayd: To install PlexyDesk in Ubuntu 14.04/13.10/12.10/12.04/Linux Mint 16/14/13 open Terminal (Press Ctrl+Alt+T) and copy the following commands in the Terminal:01:30
amprological: Well, still not released, so I'm not sure it's too unexpected for stuff to still be broken, repos to not be completely full, etc01:30
RainMan28Flannel: http://pastebin.com/NbWs1jJK01:30
FlannelRainMan28: You're missing a shebang in 01-custom-header01:30
logicalampro: i think its the ffmpeg part : The following packages have unmet dependencies:  plexydesk : Depends: ffmpeg (>= 0.cvs20070307) but it is not going to be installed01:30
amprological: Do you have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled?01:31
RainMan28Flannel: awesome, thank you01:31
logicalampro: how do i check that? i am littlebit noobish with linux01:31
RainMan28Flannel: that fixed it01:31
amprological: Yeah, just checked, and there is no ffmpeg in 14.04 repos (yet?)01:33
NnameHow to fix nvcrtl extension does not exist01:33
logicalampro: seems like it :)01:33
ax562ampro: wow more issues lol01:33
amprological: So either it should be added in later, or the functionality has been moved to a different package and the dependencies on the plexy package aren't up to date for the change01:33
amproax562: What's up?01:33
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logicalampro: ok, thx for your time01:34
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iHateihi01:34
Flannellogical, ampro: libav, see this transitional package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/ffmpeg01:34
amprological: So you could just wait until 14.04 is actually released and see if it works then.01:34
ax562now everytime I boot for some reason partition manager is looking for ubuntu on ext hd and not internal and errors out01:34
ax562since i'm running from internal hd01:35
ax562only way to boot into ubuntu is disconnect ext hd..smdh01:35
amproFlannel: Nice catch.  I did the package search on saucy, but didn't read the actual description.01:35
ax562this had happened before in 11.04 but I would just disconnect and connect once in 11.0401:35
logicalFlannel: which means? xD01:35
amprological: OK, so it is that the plexy package for trusty needs updating.01:36
ax562but 12.04 does not detect ext hd once os is booted up01:36
amproampro: wherever you're getting it from01:36
logicalok01:36
Flannellogical: ffmpeg won't be in 14.04, ffmpeg has been transitioned away from in favor of libav, so the thing you're trying to use that depends on ffmpeg will need to be updated to make use of libav01:36
amproax562: what do you mean by partition manager?  do you mean your bios?  the first thing that comes up before you get into ubuntu boot screens, etc?01:36
logicalFlannel: ok, thank yo01:37
iHateii need a rdp client that could run ito a windows server 2012. Not working with Remmina remote desktop client and the program 2xclient dont even wana run o.o im with ubunutu 13.1001:37
iHateicould someone help me with this plz01:37
Flannellogical: ffmpeg was forked, that's libav, I'm not entirely sure of all of the details, but they're somewhat related, just not identical.01:37
Flannellogical: Not that it helps your package woes to know that.01:38
ax562no I choose ubuntu from boot manager screen and it takes a minute and says cannot access root device and goes into busybox shell01:39
amproax562: so grub then?01:39
ax562i guess if thats what its called01:39
ax562this has happened before but 12.04 doesn't detect ext hd unless it is connected on boot01:40
ax562so if I don't boot with ext hd connected I cannot read ext hd from ubuntu smdh01:40
amproax562: something vaguely like this? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bDzu7DPwj0c/UFWOMUHR0pI/AAAAAAAAEvY/G3N7CnTBSjs/s400/Ubuntu+12.04+Boot+Menu.png01:41
syadnomso I'm testing btrfs on root, I install the system on a btrfs /, then I add the second device and balance.  This works great.  The catch is that now I can't install grub!  grub-install /dev/sda /dev/sdb errors out..01:41
ax562ampro: yes that is my grub that comes up every time I boot pc01:42
amproax562: and that's where you're getting the error?01:43
ax562ampro: the problem is i usually choose ubuntu which is first choice01:43
balsaqi want k3b to be ubuntu defualt burner-how do i make it default and autiplay01:43
ax562error after i make choice01:43
ax562it sits and processes and then says cannot access root01:43
ax562the problem it is looking on my ext hd for os and not internal hd01:44
SonikkuAmericasyadnom: "Not readable"?01:44
amproax562: Ok, it *sounds* to me like your devices are specified badly in grub.  They should be specified by device ID or something like that, which is a long randomish string of characters.  But they might be specified by drive number or something instead01:44
syadnomerror: filesystem 'btrfs' doesn't support blocklists01:45
amproax562: so if there's another drive in there and it gets number 1 (which is why device id should be used in the first place, because the numbering can change), it will try to boot from there01:45
syadnomalso, warning: your core.img is unusually large01:45
amproax562: let me google real quick and see if I can find you anything01:45
amproax562: haha, well here's something describing the problem https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-lucid-reliable-device-id-in-grub01:46
ax562ampro: it gives device id string 43809328-418-321-1 or something01:46
amproax562: what version was originally installed?  12.04 or did you upgrade to that?01:47
amproax562: is that what it says to boot from?  or is that what you're saying the device id actually is?01:47
ax562ampro: it says cannot access root from string 4-0234--4324-301:48
ax562this also happened on 11.04 which I did a fresh install from01:48
amproax562: Well, i'll keep looking to see if I can find you a good site, but I think your problem is in how grub is configured, so I think that's what you should be looking into.01:51
amproax562: Not sure why it would be done wrong if you started with 11.04, since grub 2 was introduced earlier and I think that's when the device ids came in, but maybe there's something there.01:52
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tux_havent tryed 14.04 yet01:56
ax562ampro: fyi I'm running a wd ext hd 4 interface usb, firewire 400/800, esata connected to a pciexpress esata module01:57
ax562ampro: it could be that ubuntu is confusing the controller in the hd drive with internal hd?01:58
ax562this has always happened even in 11.0401:58
amproax562: I don't follow what you mean.  Are all those things chained together with adapters or something?01:59
amproax562: And regardless, I don't think it should happen if grub is set up right.01:59
ax562ampro: No.  1 external hardrive that can connect in 4 different ways (4 ports).02:00
amproax562: Ok, and it's connected how?02:00
ax562I'm using the esata port to a pciexpress esata module02:00
amprook02:00
amproand your internal is sata?02:01
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ax562ampro: it could be some wierd bug.02:02
amproax562: Here you go, this sounds like what you're dealing with: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=16621702:03
amproax562: Wait, no, that's more complicated.  But similar idea.  Just not exactly a how-to for you...02:04
amproax562: In fact, that's pretty over the top.  But anyway, it describes the UUID and drive renumbering issue.02:05
MaximumTimboHey, has anyone been using 14.04? I was wondering if they fixed the screen dim bug?02:05
Beldar!14.04 | MaximumTimbo02:06
ubottuMaximumTimbo: Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu.  See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. support in #ubuntu+102:06
RainMan28is landscape-sysinfo not included with ubuntu 12.04?02:08
RainMan28trying to get some system info stats shown on login via ssh02:08
amproax562: Closer to you and maybe good enough to direct you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/171446/how-to-fix-the-uuid-in-grub-after-restore-from-another-machine02:08
amproax562: I'd go more or less with that first answer (the one with 7 up votes), but you probably wouldn't have to change grub.cfg manually since you can boot, so you could probably just use update-grub02:10
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jhutchins,v landscape-sysinfo02:17
jhutchinssorry, ubuntu.02:17
ax562http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv321/axockin/Screenshot-03292014-071541PM.png02:18
ax562ampro: do those partitions look correct why is sda5 under sda3?02:19
MaximumTimboIs there a way to create power profiles? So If I want to switch quickly and easily between profiles on an indicator or something. I understand that I can make the plugged in or unplugged, but I would like to set up different profiles for the different things I do... Does this question make sense?02:19
BeldarMaximumTimbo, in 14.04?02:19
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MaximumTimboBeldar, 13.1002:20
ax562ampro: I don't remember how it looked before in 11.04 but I doubt this has anything to do with my problem its problem just a sloppy partition setup02:21
Beldarah, not sure myself.02:21
gcosmin Hi, could I have some help with chmod -R 777 ? http://paste.debian.net/90508/02:21
MaximumTimboBeldar, I suppose I should just wait a few more days to see what 14.04 has in store...02:21
amproax562: yeah, that looks fine.  dual booting windows?  sda5 is under sda3 because you can only have 4 primary partitions.  if you want more than that you have to add "logical partitions", and they are basically subpartitions of one of the primary ones.02:22
amproax562: and no, technically you dont' really have more than 4, but i guess hte installer did that in case you wanted more eventually or something.  You can have a lot of logical partitions.02:23
BeldarMaximumTimbo, If I was worried, a image/clone of 13.10 would be my default before an upgrade. Or a just general backups.02:24
ax562ampro: just incase i wanted another primary I would have 1 primary slot left?02:24
wmoxamAnyone here every successfully mounted a FFS filesystem?02:24
wmoxam*ever02:24
psusiwmoxam, afaik, linux only supports it in read-only mode02:25
amproax562: no, if you wanted more partitions you could add them as logical partitions "within" primary partition 3.02:25
wmoxampsusi: that would be great02:25
amproax562: some resizing might be necessary, of course, but at least it would be possible02:25
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ax562ampro: I'm only dual booting with a stock dell safety backup partition02:25
ax562windows xp, dell partition, ubuntu02:26
ax562but I have sda5 under sda302:26
MaximumTimboBeldar, How do you mean? For when upgrade time happens? I usually just store anything that isn't in the cloud on to an external and push it back on. As for software... they are all in the repositories...02:26
amproax562: sda5 under sda3 is fine.  I was just figuring you were dual booting because of the sda2 not mounted anywhere but taking up the majority of the drive02:27
ax562ampro: just wondering if that looks normal.  I ended up wiping 11.04 and creating new ext4 partition during 12.04 lts setup02:27
BeldarMaximumTimbo, We all use different methods, my point being just be prepared for any failure is all.02:27
amproax562: should be fine, and probably not the issue.02:27
ax562ampro: sda2 = windoze02:27
wmoxampsusi: AFAICT this should do it: sudo mount -r -t ufs -o ro,ufstype=ufs2 /dev/sdb4 /media/myuwmoxam/mymountpoint02:28
MaximumTimboBeldar, Oh I'm with ya on that!02:28
wmoxambut no such luck02:28
BeldarMaximumTimbo, Additionally it sounds like you are, we just never know is all. ;)02:28
psusiis it just me or has the automatic codec installer that was once so nice not worked the last few releases?02:30
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psusiit never seems to offer to install the right package to get the needed codec anymore02:30
Beldarpsusi, Heh which one the 3rd party on the install tick?02:30
owen1i just finished installing ubuntu 64bit on thinkpad. i boot the laptop and i see 'Operating system not found'. any ideas?02:31
Beldarpsusi, I just run the restricted-extras and the libdvdread stuff02:31
psusiBeldar, yea, I just googled that.. but a few releases ago the got it all sorted out nicely so when you tried to play a video and it needed a codec, it just offers to install it with one click... somewhere along the line that broke02:33
amproowen1: not sure i'm able to help with that, but just to know, is ubuntu the only thing installed, or are you dual booting or anything?  And how many drives in the system?02:33
viper474Owen1: sounds like you need to reinstall the bootloader using the live CD/USB.02:35
topinamburyhi all02:35
amprohi02:35
topinamburycould someone explain to me how is it possible that i can install ubuntu from usb stick on asus without any problems02:35
topinamburybut on sony vaio for some reason i get02:36
topinamburyno operating system present02:36
topinamburyor something like that mmnt i check the exact message02:36
ampro"operating system not found"?02:37
Beldartopinambury, Handful of reasons, can you boot to the live again.02:37
amproampro: if so, owen1 is having a similar sounding problem with a thinkpad02:38
amprotalking to myself again...02:38
amprooops02:38
cisconinjahow to export gui from 13.10 terminal to windows 7 on a different machine02:41
owen1ampro: viper474 i hade debian on this laptop. i am trying to override it with ubuntu.02:42
owen1viper474: should i run it 'without installing' to get rid of the bootloader?02:43
owen1topinambury: got the same issue. let's scream together (:02:43
amproowen1: and you have one partition (plus swap)?  did you install from a livecd or something?  basically, you didn't try to upgrade into ubuntu with a package manager or anything, did you?02:44
owen1on a thinkpad that had debian before.02:44
owen1ampro: i installed ubuntu from the official 64bit. it's live cd i assum.02:44
owen1assume.02:44
viper474Owen1: this might be helpful even though it says windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows02:45
owen1put the iso on a usb02:45
owen1viper474: reading02:45
owen1thanks02:45
depoopowen1: hey02:46
owen1what does it mean 'boot into a live session' ?02:46
owen1viper474: ^02:46
owen1depoop: ho02:46
owen1viper474: i have a usb with a live cd. what's my next step?02:47
viper474Boot from the install medium. Just don't reinstall02:47
owen1viper474: sorry. i am not sure what does it mean. i insert the usb, boot the machine. what option should i chose? install or run without install?02:47
viper474Run without install02:48
owen1viper474: ok02:48
viper474If you've already tried to install02:48
depoopviper474: hey02:48
viper474Owen1: if you don't have anything to lose, then full reinstall could work cleaner02:49
owen1viper474: not sure how to do 'full reinstall' according to the link u gave me i should run the live cd and install 'boot-repair'02:49
cisconinjacan someone please assist me, i am running 13.10 on a headless server, i am able to ssh to that server. i would like to install VMware workstation 10. but wondering how to do it since i don't have access to the desktop on the headless server. is there a way i can access it from windows 7 machine?02:50
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topinamburyampro02:50
owen1viper474: i am inside the live cd. should i install and run 'boot-repair'? or should i try the full reinstall approach?02:52
viper474Owen1: Yes, run without installing and follow the link if you want to recover the option to boot with data that is there currently. Otherwise, is suggest trying to reinstall from the beginning if you have nothing on the drive that you could lose.02:52
owen1viper474: but i already tried installing twice, and got the 'no operating system' message.02:53
viper474Owen1: we can try the boot-repair first.02:53
owen1ok02:53
Pinkamena_Dhi all02:53
viper474Cisconinja: putty to ssh on Windows?02:54
cisconinjaviper474: i have putty & secureCRT .02:55
balsaqi am trying to torrent and it s not downloading onto my tramsmission client?02:55
cisconinjaviper474: so from windows i can ssh to my ubuntu , but i don't know how to get ubuntu desktop in my windows machine02:55
ax562topinambury: you have to have a bios that supports usb flash boot first02:56
ax562topinambury: does your bios support this?02:56
viper474cisconinja: there's something like x server forwarding, where you send the graphic over ssh to the windows system...haven't tried it in a while02:56
ax562ampro: this is my exact error http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv321/axockin/2014-03-29_19-44-51_63.jpg02:57
willwhcisconinja: yeah X forwarding should do it02:57
ax562ampro: I tried sudo update-grub02:58
ax562didn't help02:58
topinamburywell there is option to choose usb stick as boot device02:58
willwhcisconinja: you need to enable in ssh config though02:58
topinamburyi have put usb stick as first thing02:58
topinamburyso it is supporting flash boot02:58
cisconinjawillwh: viper474 but do i need to install any software in my windows ?02:58
amproax562: and that's the error after you changed things and did update-grub?02:59
owen1viper474: i see 'WinEFI detected. do you want to activate [Backup and rename windows EFI files]?02:59
willwhoh, windows, ah02:59
ax562no I only did update grub02:59
willwhhmm, I'm not sure how you enable ubuntu's bvasic RDP from the cli02:59
willwhbut you could use that and VNC02:59
willwhlet's see02:59
ax562I wanted to show you exact problem before I started modifying system files02:59
amprotopinambury: and that same exact flash stick worked on another machine?02:59
viper474owen1: hmm, that would seem correct, however I have not used the tool. Let me look at that webpage again.03:00
amproax562: Ok, so when you're fully booted, do you have a /dev/disk/by-uuid/thatexactlonguuidstring?03:00
owen1viper474: cool. thanks. i assume it ask me for backup of some sort. i don't care about any files, so my guess would be 'no'03:01
viper474owen1: well, the word activate throws me off03:02
viper474maybe it means enable03:02
willwhcisconinja: http://askubuntu.com/questions/4474/enable-remote-vnc-from-the-commandline should help :)03:02
willwhinstall tightvnc or realvnc in windows, to connect03:02
viper474owen1: that still makes me think your windows info is there, however I haven't used UEFI03:02
ax562ubuntu456@ubuntu456:/dev/disk/by-uuid$ dir03:03
ax56207D8-050D      75ba3c4e-71ee-4f25-8351-dfc2f55fe0bf03:03
ax5620e3e4e98-1e6a-418e-9eb4-632f5c9d0434  8EE04C65E04C559D03:03
ax562ubuntu456@ubuntu456:/dev/disk/by-uuid$03:03
owen1viper474: http://askubuntu.com/questions/339410/unable-to-boot-ubuntu-13-04-alongside-windows-803:03
ax562yes03:03
owen1viper474: it's interesting since i never used windows on this laptop, but maybe the debian never removed this part.03:03
cisconinjawillwh: what aboe x.org03:03
owen1viper474: in the link i sent u he said to answer 'yes'. so i am hesitante.03:04
willwhhuh?03:04
ax562funny thing is I just plugged in my phone and ubuntu auto recognizes and mount sd card correctly03:04
ax562but it will not recognize esata over esata pci express module03:04
cisconinjawillwh: i was thinking maybe export DISPLAY03:05
amproax562: wait, this is a 4 way drive, right?  do the other ways work fine?03:05
ax562ubuntu456@ubuntu456:/dev/disk/by-uuid$ sudo cat /proc/cmdline03:06
ax562[sudo] password for ubuntu456:03:06
ax562BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-47-generic root=UUID=0e3e4e98-1e6a-418e-9eb4-632f5c9d0434 ro quiet splash03:06
owen1viper474: i just hit no. it's installing grub.03:06
ax562It looks like it is looking for the right disk uuid03:07
Beldarowen1, save the url to the bootinfo summary03:07
viper474owen1: UEFI is a void in my understanding, but from what I have heard it i best to try turning it off before installing Ubuntu. Cool, we can see if it boots into Ubuntu after...03:07
topinamburyoperating system not found03:07
topinambury[04:58] <ampro> topinambury: and that same exact flash stick worked on another machine?03:07
topinamburyyes03:07
ax562I can try usb 2.003:08
amproax562: could you paste in your /boot/grub/grub.cfg ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/03:08
ax562I think back in the day i tried usb and it worked but it's horridly slow. usb 2.0 sucks balls03:09
owen1viper474: Beldar ok. rebooting. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7177471/03:09
Beldar!language | ax56203:09
ubottuax562: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList03:09
amprotopinambury: strange...  are you sure the flash stick is the first boot device?  Maybe it's failing on something else before it gets to that?03:09
amprotopinambury: most recent bioses let you hit a different key to go to a boot menu instead of the full blow bios setup.  see if you can do that and select the thumb drive directly from there03:10
ax562ampro: http://pastebin.com/ipsGggC603:11
Beldarowen1, poat that script in this thread, it is the bootrepair developers thread with people there focused on these issues. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post1087191703:12
Beldarpost*03:12
topinamburyampro: it is booting from usbg03:12
topinamburyusb03:12
owen1Beldar: viper474 got the same error03:12
owen1Beldar: do u think i should try again but answer 'yes'?03:12
jeffrey_ftopinambury: CD in drive?03:13
ax562topinambury: bios let you choose a boot order internal hd, cd/dvd drive, usb etc03:13
viper474 Beldar: how does UEFI work on that first partition?03:13
topinamburyax562: yes03:13
ax562topinambury: if you want to boot from usb, bios has to support and usb has to be the first in boot order03:13
Beldarowen1, You have a gpt partition table, so this is a efi boot, not many here really are up on this setup, use the forums as I suggest.03:13
topinamburybios even allows me to blacklist devices from boot order there is only one thing03:13
topinamburyflash drive03:13
ax562it has to be usb03:14
topinamburythat usb flash drive is only place where system is searched for03:14
owen1Beldar: cool. thanks03:14
topinamburyso it is booting from usb03:14
topinamburybut somehow it says operating system not found03:14
topinamburyeven the led light on usb is flashing03:14
topinamburyas it is trying to read from it03:14
ax562I would check image on flash by booting into working operating system (windows) and make sure you have a valid image file on your usb flash drive by opening the image contents03:15
Beldarowen1, One of the areas people just trying to help without really being sure can mess up what can be fixed is all.03:15
viper474Beldar, owen1: I agree. Sorry we couldn't be much help..03:16
owen1viper474: Beldar no worries. i am surprised since i had debain on this thinkpad.03:16
ax562topinambury: I believe you need a modified ubuntu.img running on usb drive to be able to boot from usb drive.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong though.03:16
owen1i always assumed ubuntu has a good hardware support.03:16
Beldarowen1, Both debian and ubuntu have the efi shims, however if it were me I would wipe the partition table, make it msdos and do a mbr install, and have the bios set for that.03:18
topinamburyok people03:18
topinamburyproblem solved03:18
amproax562: topinambury  I think the same image works these days (it's called a hybrid iso) as long as you dd it onto the drive or something similar03:18
Beldarthank god03:18
topinamburyit was advanced option in setup that said03:18
topinamburyexternal device boot03:18
topinamburydisabled03:18
amprotopinambury: haha, geez03:18
topinamburychanged to enabled it started to work :)03:18
amproax562: I don't really know what to tell you at this point.  your grub.cfg looks similar enough to mine and seems to have the right root UUID everywhere.03:19
jasabellahow do i tell saned what addresses to bind to?03:19
ax562ampro: I'm thinking it might be the timeout issue mentioned in error message03:20
ax562funny thing it works most of the time smdh03:20
owen1Beldar: sounds like a solid plan. how do i do that? boot into the live cd again?03:20
ax562maybe drive is hibernating and it takes more time to wakeup?03:20
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amprothe thing is that grub is on that drive03:21
amproax562: so it can't really be that the drive isn't working yet or anything.03:22
ax562where could I find rootdelay?03:23
amproax562: I'm still confident it has to do with the drive numbering.  maybe the (hd0,msdos5) in your grub entries becomes wrong?  but i don't really know where to go next03:23
Beldarowen1, Is the ubuntu there now wipe able, no need to save?03:24
owen1Beldar: what do u mean 'wipeable'? i have nothing important. it's a new install anyway.03:24
owen1i just installed ubuntu on top of debian.03:24
owen1so my ubuntu has nothing.03:25
amproax562: not familiar with that.  and i'd honestly be surprised if that was it.  it might make sense if you were trying to boot from a drive other than the one grub is on, but you're not, so i don't see how that could really be the issue.03:25
Beldarowen1, cool boot a live cd use the link to purge the gpt and install to the whole disc. http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/wipegpt.html03:25
amproax562: but then again, stranger things have happened.  so maybe check it out, but i don't know about it.  google is the linux user's best friend :)03:25
Beldarowen1, I think you set legacy boot in the bios as well.03:26
ax562ampro: http://pastebin.com/fLnrq1SV03:27
ax562sdhci_pci 18749 0 - Live 0x0000000000000000 present03:27
owen1Beldar: reading.. thanks03:27
Beldarowen1, Cool, you can do a manual install after the gpt wipe, you just want all the partitions gone first, or written over.03:28
amproax562: I don't follow.03:29
ax562that is my external hd pci express module03:29
amproax562: not to be difficult - or thick! :) - but... and?03:30
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owen1Beldar: the link u sent me is a bit verbose and confuses me (: do u think this is going to get me to the same goal ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/211477/how-to-remove-gpt-from-hdd03:32
owen1(removing gpt)03:33
balsaqcan soneed help with transmission03:33
* bet0x installed ubuntu on his phone03:33
Beldarowen1, Same process, you can use thast one if it makes more sense.03:34
Beldarthat*03:34
owen1Beldar: awesome. it's easier since it's just the steps to follow.03:34
owen1Beldar: sudo gdisk /dev/sdX - which partition should i use?03:35
viper474owen1: sda03:36
balsaqwhen we try to download a file it doesnt offer transmission? oit asks choose some application but transmission isnt a choice??03:36
Beldarowen1, run sudo fdisk -l make sure sda is the HD, a usb boot some times reverses this, no partition just the HD03:37
owen1ok03:37
Beldarowen should be sda if not reversed03:37
owen1Beldar: i see sda1 have GPT03:38
owen1(using fdisk)03:38
amproax562: oh, sweet.  there's a #grub channel with a fair number of people in it.  I think grub's where your problem is at, or at least where it will probably need to be fixed.  see if anyone in there knows what's going on.03:38
viper474Beldar, owen1: yeah, sda is the drive. sda1, sda2, and sda3 are patititions for sda.03:38
Beldarowen1, you have it in the partition table that is sda03:38
owen1swee03:38
owen1sweet03:38
owen1now it ask me if i want to 'blank out MBR'.03:38
owen1(GPT is destroyed, btw!)03:38
Beldarowen1, follow the instructions03:39
ax562ampro: I was just checking correct modules existed and wasn't working mickey moused03:39
owen1ok. 'y'03:39
Beldaryep03:39
owen1ok. done. what's next? boot with my usb?03:39
ax562ampro: thanks for the help I will check it out03:39
Beldarowen1, How were you booted?03:39
amproax562: those are kernel modules, anyway, so would have to be loaded after booting from the correct device03:39
grahamsavage_hey xorg is going crazy on my computer.. 90% cpu...03:40
owen1Beldar: rigt now i am in live cd (from ubuntu 64bit usb)03:40
ax562ampro: I just connected through usb 2.0 and it doesn't even recognize hd either while in ubuntu03:40
grahamsavage_and another process called compiz03:40
owen1Beldar: i thought of rebooting and chosing 'install'03:40
amproax562: strange03:40
ax562ampro: yeah, I know kernel modules, but if they are present why doesn't it recognize after os boot?03:41
amproax562: actually, are you sure?  it's not in the shortcuts on the left of nautilus or anything?03:41
Beldarowen1, boot from whatever you are going to use to install with, and install over the partitions there. Go to the bios first and make sure legacy boot is set.03:41
ax562i'm on xubuntu03:41
amproax562: ok, thunar?03:41
amproax562: i guess i'm asking because when you hotplug something it will pop it up03:41
amproax562: but it doesn't do that when it's plugged in from the get go03:42
owen1Beldar: ok. so since i have ubuntu on a usb stick i'll reboot, enter the bios, make sure legacy boot is set, save the bios and install ubuntu.03:42
ax562ampro: it has now detected ext hd through usb 2.003:42
grahamsavage_hmm i guess i'lll have to reboot03:42
amproax562: so i'm just making sure you didn't expect it to pop up on its own when it started out plugged in03:42
ax562connection was loose lol03:42
ax562ampro: no detection what soever was my problem03:42
Beldarowen1, Sounds good, I think you should be set, it should install and put grub in the mbr.03:42
amproax562: troubleshooting step one: check your connections :)03:43
owen1Beldar: perfect!03:43
ax562ampro: usb 2.0 worked.  I'm going to reboot and see if boot problem persists03:43
ax562ampro: that was only for usb 2.0 which I just plugged in minutes ago03:43
ax562ampro: esata has been an ongoing issue since 11.04 which would happen randomly03:43
amproax562: ok, but if you'd prefer esata, someone who actually knows a fair bit about grub - ie not me :) - might be able to help get that working03:44
ax562ampro: same exact issue in 11.04, no boot uuid present at root03:44
amproweird03:44
ax562ampro: yeah, it's much faster interface.  Something like 8-12 times faster lmao03:45
owen1Beldar: in 'UEFI/Legacy boot' should i choose both, UEFI only or Legacy only?03:45
ax562looks to only happen with esata though03:45
ax562let me verify brb03:45
owen1my guess is legacy. since UEFI is windows-related.03:46
Beldarowen1, legacy only I would think. I also assume you ran the gpt right correct here, hehe.03:46
viper474owen1: I also vote for Legacy only.03:46
owen1+103:47
Beldargpt wipe*03:47
owen1Beldar: viper474 saved the bios and rebooting with the usb connected. instead of the menu for installing ubuntu i am greeted with : ERROR: no configuration file found. No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found! boot:03:48
owen1and i see a terminal cursur blinking.03:48
Beldarowen1, Make sure it is booting from the media.03:49
owen1Beldar: so go back to the bios make sure it boot from usb?03:49
owen1oh, maybe i deleted the content of ubuntu from that usb.03:50
Beldarowen1, That is one way there is also a boot from menu outside the bios. It is a prompt like you would for bios but different, the bios splash probably tells you it.03:50
owen1let me install it using usb-creator-gtk on my other laptop03:50
ax562ampro: back, no issue while connected to usb 2.003:51
Beldarowen1, Once you get to a booted live desktop, run sudo fdisk -l it will tell you if the gpt is still there.03:52
amproax562: ok, well at least you've got that going if you can't figure out esata03:52
Beldarshold be gone but worth checking03:53
owen1Beldar: ok03:56
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Beldar!away > megabit|away03:59
ubottumegabit|away, please see my private message03:59
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Guest43963ola04:04
tommy_hi all04:04
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Guest43963como funciona essa rede04:05
Guest43963nossa04:05
Guest43963nunca entrei nisso04:05
Guest43963estranho04:05
Beldar!pt | Guest4396304:06
ubottuGuest43963: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.04:06
tommy__i am using ubuntu 12.04 on hp 6720S machine, my wifi driver is not installing04:06
Beldartommy__, Can you identify the wifi from running lspci in the terminal?04:07
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suzanaoi04:08
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suzanaoi04:08
tommy__Beldar, Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 02)04:09
Beldar!broadcom | tommy__04:09
ubottutommy__: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx04:09
* owen1 installing ubuntu04:10
suzana boa noite04:10
viper474owen1: I am anxious to see how it turns out this time.04:11
suzana..04:12
owen1viper474: (: i am amazed with the support on this chat. #debian is great as well, but i think the fact that there are 1500 people here makes a difference.04:12
tommy__Beldar, i got chip ID and PCI ID, and the driver is available in proprietary driver list, but it is not activating04:13
tommy__Beldar, sends me to a log file that i cant understand04:14
jeffrey_ftommy__:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-firmware-nonfree    THEN   sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b4304:14
jeffrey_ftommy__: Obtain a wired connection first...04:15
Beldartommy__, Not an area I have had ti mess with, the bits link mentions the additional drivers, as should work, and gives other options.04:16
tommy__Beldar, i got the wired connection but not very good with terminal commands, i do it step by step04:16
Beldars/to/bots*04:16
tommy__Beldar, ok thanks04:16
jeffrey_ftommy__: the two commands stated a few lines up should start your wireless to work04:17
baldpopeif I have two versions of automake installed - how do I select which one I want to be the default/system automake?04:17
tommy__Beldar, it shows warning for the last command that "All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release."04:20
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DrDigita_anyone able to tell me how to fix this not found error? ./atlassian-jira-6.2.1-x32.bin: 466: ./atlassian-jira-6.2.1-x32.bin: /home/mmurphy/atlassian-jira-6.2.1-x32.bin.24518.dir/jre/bin/java: not found04:21
tommy__Beldar, should i reboot now?04:21
Beldartommy__, I would ask jeffrey_f04:21
BeldarI assume you used thier commands, looks right04:22
tommy__ok04:22
jeffrey_ftommy__: are you on a wired connection for that machine in question?04:22
tommy__jeffrey_f, yes04:23
jeffrey_ftommy__: in terminal copy and paste sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-firmware-nonfree04:24
tommy__jeffrey_f, that i did04:24
jeffrey_fnow     sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b4304:25
jeffrey_fyou should have wireless now04:25
tommy__jeffrey_f, i did that too but result came with warning04:26
jeffrey_fwhat was the warning?04:26
tommy__jeffrey_f,  "All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release."04:26
owen1viper474: done installing. rebbot04:26
owen1reboot04:26
viper474 owen1: crossed fingers04:27
owen1viper474: looks promising!04:28
owen1kvm disabled by bios04:28
owen1ubuntu logo04:28
owen1yes! yes!04:28
owen1login screen04:28
jeffrey_ftommy__: I'm researching...give me a minute04:28
owen1I LOVE U GUYS04:28
viper474owen1 Beldar: success. Good work.04:28
tommy__jeffrey_f, ok04:29
owen1Beldar: thanks guys04:29
Beldarno prob, enjoy04:29
owen1now i just hope that my hybrid approach is viable. i live in the console %99 of the time. so i plan to install i3 and wicd and remove network-manager.04:30
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tommy__jeffrey_f, are u there?04:36
brontosHey all, When I install ubuntu on my machine the installer and the trial part the displays load correctly (2 screens, correct resolution), after the install and when booting from HDD the resolution is low and will only show on 1 screen.04:37
brontosAny ideas?04:37
jeffrey_ftommy__: I'm looking.  I think that file can be renamed or even deleted.  Try renaming first      sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.bak04:38
Beldarbrontos, Might need graphic drivers for resolution..etc, and the 2nd display turned on in displays.04:39
brontosBeldar, I can't turn on the second display in Displays, as far as resolution, there used to be a install restricted drivers app.  Is it still around?04:41
Beldarbrontos, There is additional drivers in software & updates, be sure a update and upgrade are run first.04:42
brontosBeldar, hmm the drivers aren't showing up...04:45
Beldarbrontos, Not an area I have had to mess with I have had intel graphics that just work. However here identifying the hardware is helpful, run lspci and name the graphic hardware with your inquiries for help.04:47
tommy__jeffrey_f, are u still there04:49
jeffrey_ftommy__: Yep04:49
tommy__jeffrey_f, i rebooted my system, hit for the additional drivers, but it still wont install it04:51
jeffrey_fyou renamed the blacklist file?04:51
tommy__jeffrey_f, i dont know, how can i check it?04:52
jeffrey_ftommy__: ls /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist04:52
brontosBeldar, This is my drivers: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)04:53
brontosBeldar, Sorry hardware04:53
tommy__jeffrey_f, its still there04:53
savrhi04:53
Beldarbrontos, You will need help from someone who knows the area better, is all.04:53
savrhow do I upgrade to 14.04?04:53
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jeffrey_ftommy__: sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.bak04:54
Beldarsavr, You want #ubuntu+1 for 14.0404:54
funkyasssgood day04:54
funkyassshow do i install ubuntu on my android tablet04:55
faqih_dan_kucingfunkyasss, you can install with Linux-on-android04:55
tommy__jeffrey_f, ok done04:56
funkyasssfaqih_dan_kucing, it works with any tablet?04:56
jeffrey_fredo the previous ls....does it show up?04:57
faqih_dan_kucingfunkyasss, yepz04:57
funkyasssfaqih_dan_kucing, how does it launch?04:57
tommy__jeffrey_f, blacklist is gone04:58
diuneighcan anyone help me with DC++ on ubuntu?04:59
jeffrey_ftommy__: udo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b4304:59
jeffrey_ftommy__: oops  sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b4304:59
tommy__jeffrey_f, ok05:00
jeffrey_ftommy__: Any warnings?05:01
tommy__jeffrey_f, no05:01
jeffrey_ftommy__: see if you can get a wireless now05:01
tommy__jeffrey_f, where to check?05:01
jeffrey_ftommy__: should be a cone looking icon?05:02
tommy__jeffrey_f, no05:02
tommy__jeffrey_f, just up and down arrows side by side05:03
jeffrey_fare you logged into the gui or into a terminal only?05:03
tommy__jeffrey_f, same results, cant install the driver05:04
jeffrey_ftommy__: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-firmware-nonfree && sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b4305:05
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jeffrey_ftommy__: also, ensure that the wireless is not turned off via a hardware switch, AKA Airplane switch05:06
tommy__jeffrey_f, button is always orange and is not turning blue05:07
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jeffrey_ftommy__: I'm vaguely familiar with the laptop you have.  I'm not sure if it changes when on or when connected05:10
tommy__jeffrey_f, lets hope for the best05:12
jeffrey_ftommy__: are you in the OS gui or a terminal only05:12
tommy__jeffrey_f, its gui and have a terminal window too05:13
jeffrey_ftommy__: do you have a wireless icon in the status bar?05:13
tommy__no only wired05:15
i_need_help_my_fi really need help05:17
xangua!ask | i_need_help_my_f05:18
ubottui_need_help_my_f: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:18
i_need_help_my_funopaste_: are you a bot05:18
i_need_help_my_fi need help recovering my password and please do not refer me to the "ubuntu password help thingy"05:19
mappshow can i upload a file from say /backups to /home/user/somedir using ftp in the cmd line? getting errors05:19
i_need_help_my_fubottu_: i need help recovering my password05:20
ubottui_need_help_my_f: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:20
jordan2mapps: if you have curl installed you can use "curl -T my-local-file.txt ftp://ftp.example.com --user user:secret" --superuser05:22
AndChat27729Ok i just upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04 and after restart im only able to get in grub rescue prompt with error symbol grub_term_highlight_color not found. Any sugestions?05:23
i_need_help_my_fanyone hello05:23
BeldarAndChat27729, #ubuntu+1 is the 14.04 channel05:23
i_need_help_my_f14.04 is out!?!?!?05:23
Beldarno05:23
kostkoni_need_help_my_f, no, still beta05:23
AndChat27729Final beta05:23
i_need_help_my_fso how did he ubgrade?05:24
i_need_help_my_foh duha05:24
AndChat27729You can upgrade05:24
i_need_help_my_fhow05:24
kostkoni_need_help_my_f, you can manually initiate the upgrade05:24
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i_need_help_my_foh cool i had no idea05:24
AndChat27729Google it for manual upgrade ubuntu05:24
i_need_help_my_fbut can we focus on my main problem05:25
kostkoni_need_help_my_f, give me a sec then05:25
i_need_help_my_fok05:25
kostkoni_need_help_my_f, ubuntu password?05:25
i_need_help_my_fi have bin trying to recover for days05:25
i_need_help_my_fand yes05:26
i_need_help_my_funix login pass05:26
operaghostGKyou should boot it manaly05:26
kostkoni_need_help_my_f, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword05:26
llutz_i_need_help_my_f: boot into recovery mode, drop to root shell, set new password "passwd username"05:26
i_need_help_my_fi cant drop to root shell05:27
operaghostGKjust a few commands05:27
i_need_help_my_fwhat?05:27
i_need_help_my_fonyone there?05:28
i_need_help_my_f'anyone'05:28
kostkoni_need_help_my_f, what's your problem?05:28
i_need_help_my_fi need help reseting my unix login password but i cannot drop to root shell05:28
kostkoni_need_help_my_f, please read the how-to i gave you05:29
i_need_help_my_fi have tryed that method numerous times and it will not work as planed05:29
qini_need_help_my_f: How it works, then?05:30
qinJust in time for a coffee...05:30
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heikohobrI'm curious about tiling WMs, which one is a good starting point?05:30
qinheikohobr: xmonad, or less radical e1705:31
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i_need_help_my_fi boot my pc. drop to root shell.(wich dose not work)i type in a command i forgot. then i reset password using password zsw.05:31
heikohobrok, thank you05:31
i_need_help_my_fqin theres your explnation05:32
qini_need_help_my_f: But in effect you managed to boot in text mode?05:32
llutz_i_need_help_my_f: "does not work" is not an explanation05:32
i_need_help_my_fyes it is and btw i gave an explnation05:33
qinso what do happens when you choose root shell from menu?05:33
qindoes it ask for password? or just reverts to menu? or reboots?05:34
i_need_help_my_fmy monitor zooms in about 200% and it says somthing like do such and such so so somthing05:34
qinsee, llutz_, progress05:34
mappsi have a script that backs up some files and stores to /backups but i cant seem to get it to upload the file to a remote ftp i can only get it to upload te file if the archive is created in the dir the script runs?05:35
weblordpepein your script you may want to ensure that its talking to files in the correct directory05:36
weblordpepeya can do that in a few ways05:36
qinmapps: I suspect using rsync is way more sane, secure, and comfy than ftp05:36
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weblordpepeyou can specify the file's absolute path (ie /home/dude/documents/stuff/morethings/cat.jpg)05:36
weblordpepeor05:36
mappsi did cd testing once logged into the ftp which is ~/testing right - then i did put /backups/file FILE and it didnt work05:36
weblordpeperemember to put your filename inside quotes "05:37
mappsim already cd'd to testing dir once connected do i still need to put /testing/file ?05:37
operaghostGKis that something like this "grub <>"?05:37
i_need_help_my_fhello?05:37
weblordpepeif you have a file name like this: my awesome kitty cat.jpg05:37
operaghostGKit not root shell .it is grub recovery mod05:38
N0byteHelp05:38
i_need_help_my_fanyone there?05:38
mappsya needs quptes05:38
* weblordpepe crawls out of a cupboard05:38
weblordpepehes, i am here.05:38
qini_need_help_my_f: operaghostGK talks to you05:38
i_need_help_my_fwhen05:38
qinjust above.05:38
i_need_help_my_foh well he wrong05:39
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weblordpepeit helps to be polite & answer questions asked of you when you need help05:40
q0hello, i have problem with virtualbox saying VT-x hardware is not operational ??   I check with grep --color vmx /proc/cpuinfo   and it is there ! What could be the problem ?05:40
pewdiepie_jkanyone?hello05:40
weblordpepewhats VT-x hardware? thats a pretty fancy grep statement. colours & stuff05:40
weblordpepepewdiepie_jk: whats the problem youre having?05:41
pewdiepie_jki need to reset password but i try to drop to root shell in recovery mode and it no work05:41
weblordpepeoh i see i see.05:42
N0byteOnline by phone05:42
weblordpepecos when you put in recovery mode it asks for your password05:42
weblordpepeor ctrl-d to continue, sorta thing aye.05:42
nnameI just bought a chromebook with only 16gb of storage. How would I go about setting it up to save all my downloads to a ubuntu server over the internet. VPN?05:42
tinkerbotmapps: hard to help without knowing your permission structure; any errors worth noting?05:42
weblordpepelet me think for a minute. i'm sure theres a cheap way of doing it.05:42
mappsno issues with perms at all...its just me being stupid i think basically say i run script a from /home/mark/bash it creates an archive and dumps it in /backups i want t then upload /backups/FILE to a remote ftp but i get errors05:43
weblordpepeare you able to log in at all? under any user?05:43
weblordpepei'm thinking perhaps using a live-cd, and using chroot, and then changing your password.05:43
weblordpepei think i can guide you through it.05:43
weblordpepeusing chroot, you can tell any command to treat a directory of your choice as if it was /05:44
Ben64pewdiepie_jk: how does it "not work"05:44
qinnname: it kinda do not make sens to download to upload... but you have Ubutnu One, Google Drive and few other clouds for free.. or just use wget from server, or play with sshfs05:44
weblordpepewhen you do that, and run anything (like change my password command) it will overwrite what it thinks is /etc/shadw and stuff.05:44
weblordpepepewdiepie_jk: how are you on IRC right now? are you booting from a live CD or something?05:45
weblordpepecos if you're on the computer which isn't working for you right now, it might be a quick fix using a chroot trick.05:45
pewdiepie_jki use xchat05:46
pewdiepie_jkguest acount05:46
weblordpepeokay. if you type sudo, are you able to get root?05:46
nnameqin im going to look at sshfs05:46
weblordpepesudo su, for example05:46
Ben64weblordpepe: can't sudo from guest account, and you should never use sudo su, please do not suggest that05:46
tinkerbotmapps: which command are you using? if there's an underlying folder structure (ie. /backups/folder/file), wildcarding won't recursively upload. a single file should be simple in comparison05:46
Ben64pewdiepie_jk: what happens when you use recovery mode? that is the best/easiest way to reset a password05:47
weblordpepeBen64: blow it out your ass.05:47
weblordpepeBen64: if you were paying attention - he can't use recovery mode. he's in a guest account.05:47
Ben64weblordpepe: watch your language here05:47
N0byteLol05:48
weblordpepeif he can get root via any means, the it will solve his problem. failing that i'll guide him through a chroot from a live cd05:48
Ben64sudo will not work from the guest account. the best way is from recovery mode, so weblordpepe - what happens when you try to use recovery mode?05:49
pewdiepie_jkben64_" 去發生性關係你的鍵盤,你混蛋鼠05:49
weblordpepehe doesnt have a root password. and not being able to sudo is fine. we can try chrooting from a recovery account. but there aint anything wrong with sudo su if you're in a bad situation.05:50
Ben64sudo su is always a bad idea, please do not suggest it here05:50
weblordpeperecovery mode is prompting him for root password which he can't provide. the next step according to my imagination is to chroot from a live cd05:50
Ben64you're assuming way too much. he never said anything about a password prompt in recovery05:51
orangepeelI want to be able to put Windows 7 OS as well as Ubuntu on the same laptop. Is that possible?05:51
weblordpepeBen64: don't be argumentative.05:51
Ben64orangepeel: sure is. best way is to have windows installed first, then ubuntu05:51
weblordpepe& for the love of christ - what is wrong with sudo su?05:51
qinorangepeel: yes, but Ubuntu need to be installed second, preferably05:51
pewdiepie_jkorngepeel_: yes look up dualbooting windows 7 and ubuntu05:52
orangepeeldamnit05:52
orangepeeli have over 70gb of data05:52
N0bytePatient sir, use polite lang05:53
orangepeelThe only reason for having Windows 7 is to play Casino Blackjack game05:53
orangepeelThat's it05:53
weblordpepeabout the only thing wrong with sudo from my knowledge is that it doesn't forward x auth.05:53
llutz_weblordpepe: it might not set a proper env for the root shell, use "sudo -i" to get a clean shell-environment05:53
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ryckWhere does the content for the music, movie and photo lenses come from?05:53
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weblordpepellutz_: ah right. well thats fine. but if he's on ubuntu, and only wanting to reset his password, shouldnt be a problem in this case.05:54
orangepeelshould i be ok with windows installed second if only purpose of windows is to play casino blackjack gamr05:54
Ben64orangepeel: the problem with installing windows second is that it overwrites grub, you'll need to fix that afterwards05:55
llutz_weblordpepe: why using dodgy command, when a clean one exists05:55
orangepeelis it a cake walk or no Ben64 ?05:55
Ben64!fixgrub | orangepeel05:55
ubottuorangepeel: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub205:55
q0how do i move this friggin Virtualbox screen ? nothing's working05:56
orangepeelseems to be a pain05:56
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weblordpepellutz_: seems fine to me. sudo -i i mean. i'll probably use it from now on05:57
weblordpepellutz_: but whinging about sudo so being a bad idea when someone's needing help - bad.05:57
Ben64you missed a key point, where sudo will NOT work from a guest account anyway05:57
q0unbelievable, they come up with the whole technology but they can't prevent the window control overrides05:57
ryckWhere does the content for the music, movie and photo lenses come from?05:57
weblordpepeyeah thats fine.  i know that.05:57
weblordpepenot disputing.05:58
weblordpepejust dont treat sudo su like its the plague.05:58
q0traumatised corporate programmers05:58
llutz_weblordpepe: but it is ;)05:58
Ben64could you stop with that already? its not the correct way to do anything05:58
weblordpepeO_o05:58
q0what about sudo -s05:58
llutz_q0: read sudo man-page about the difference to -i05:59
weblordpepefunny, reading .profile, .bashrc or .login & the environment specific stuff like that isn't always advantagous06:01
weblordpepedid i spell that? probably not. sudo man spelling06:01
llutz_weblordpepe: thats why there are  -s and -i, both may have advantages in some situations06:02
weblordpepei wouldn't use -i after reading through this06:02
q0so my suggestion is better apparently,06:03
q0sudo -s for the win06:03
llutz_weblordpepe: but generally, if you want a "real" root-shell, you want roots environment, so -i is ok06:03
weblordpepeyeah that is true.06:03
geirhasudo -Hs06:03
q0thanks weblordpepe06:03
weblordpepehowever - root shouldn't have an environment of any worth if ya ask me :P06:04
* weblordpepe checks06:04
weblordpepewow so many join/parts. anyone know how to hide that in irssi?06:06
mobicynalWow works06:06
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mobicynalMobile irc on06:06
llutz_!quietirssi | weblordpepe06:06
ubottuweblordpepe: To ignore joins, parts, quits in irssi:  /ignore #ubuntu +JOINS +PARTS +QUITS06:06
weblordpepemore parts in this channel than in a model aircraft carrier kit06:06
weblordpepeoh swag thanks06:06
mobicynalBrillient06:07
weblordpepeneat thats really cool thanks ubottu06:07
* weblordpepe pats ubottu on the head & feeds him a wallnut06:07
weblordpepe:306:07
kostkon!cookie | ubottu06:07
Guest15270| isn't here06:07
ubottukostkon: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!06:08
kostkon...06:08
Ben64!cookie kostkon06:08
Guest15270You don't have any cookies to give!06:08
qinSo where is the dude with no password? It was really interesting.06:10
Ben64i think it was a troll, based upon his response to me06:11
qinat least we have sudo su explained...06:11
funkyasssweee06:12
funkyasss:)06:12
q0is it a bad idea to log in to my microsoft student account when it is pirate version ? Is FBI gonna raid my house ?06:18
qinweblordpepe: it took me just half an hour to find, post #6 just makes it simple: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87434606:18
qinq0: it is more for ##windows question, and likely in colision with quidlines06:19
q0i'll ask there then06:19
qindo it, me thinks they are also pubcly logged channel...06:20
q0i'll post my 8 inch dick there too then06:21
mobicynalDatabase is not easy getting into deep haha06:23
__raven13.10: error infinite loop on login screen - how to repair?06:27
Ben64__raven: can you get in with guest account06:28
__ravenBen64: its not enabled. i am only able to login via tty06:29
llutz___raven: "df -h /home /tmp"  any fs full? "ls -la ~/.Xauthority"  owned by you, perms 0600?06:30
__ravenllutz_: Xauthority was owned by root that was the problem. tnx :)06:31
pewdiepie_jk+06:38
pewdiepie_jkit was no troll i found a sloution06:38
pewdiepie_jkben64 no troll06:38
akiva-mobileso the dash searches the scopes, the hud searches the menu...06:44
akiva-mobileI am trying to think of a good name for a embedded terminal06:45
akiva-mobilesomething similar to the hud06:45
akiva-mobilethe hut?06:45
akiva-mobilesuggestions?06:45
xubuntuhi06:47
qinted? Terminal Embedded in Desktop?06:47
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weblordpepeqin: interesting. nice work06:48
weblordpepealso, this is my main technical issue at the moment with my debian install: https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t31.0-8/p960x960/135294_684504048258169_1177957858_o.jpg06:49
weblordpepeim having IO problems06:49
Guest73934just uninstall cat06:50
Demon_JesterHey guys, if I want to set a "strict" level on a user in ubuntu how would I go about doing that?06:58
cfhowlettDemon_Jester, strict beyond "desktop user"???06:59
dakotawulfywould any one be able to help me on a a gtk3 theme  just to find out one thing07:00
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Demon_Jestercfhowlett, I am sorry I mean ssh user into ubuntu server.07:04
Demon_Jesterssh user on ubuntu server*07:04
weblordpepesorry, cat is installed to rom07:05
JordanJ2Hello, Can I install the KDE desktop with Ubuntu or would that be kibuntu?07:06
JordanJ2kubuntu*07:06
cfhowlett!server|Demon_Jester, ask the server channel07:07
ubottuDemon_Jester, ask the server channel: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server07:07
llutz_JordanJ2: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop               then pick kde session at next login07:07
JordanJ2Alrigh. Thank you07:07
cfhowlettJordan_U, to get just the desktop    sudo apt-get install KDE      to get the packages sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:08
cfhowlettJordanJ2, FYI kubuntu default packages are different from Ubuntu07:08
JordanJ2Okay07:09
fa7adguys i'm fairly new with linux can someone build a few packages for me. i a noob at compiling them myself07:10
fa7adbesides they have long list of dependencies07:11
llutz_fa7ad: in most cases other people did that already, just search for ppa on launchpad with the stuff you want07:11
fa7adthere's a ppa but it provides the stable releases. i need the unstable ones07:11
fa7adhere: libimobiledevice.org07:12
fa7adi need 1.1.6 but the ppa has 1.0.507:12
fa7adllutz_: ok i found a ppa that has the latest one but the dependencies are missing (usbmuxd and libplist). any help?07:16
llutz_fa7ad: find a ppa providing these... that's why ppas aren't supported here, it's a mess07:17
fa7ad-_-07:18
helmut_hi07:24
BonkersCrazy_Hey guys. Quick question if anyone is awake. I've just downloaded some songs for Frets on Fire, I'm trying to move those songs into the correct folder. Apparently, I don't have permission to do that. Any ideas on how I can get those moved?07:26
rww!cookie07:26
ubottuWow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!07:26
jasabellaBonkersCrazy_... sudo mv ? heh07:28
fa7adsorry guys i should have known. u guys are probably sleeping. its afternoon in my timezone though07:29
cfhowlettfa7ad, newsflash:  this irc is global.  so "anyone awake?" warrants the response "of course..."07:30
KyouReeUs4nfofa7ad: dpkg-deb -b can build a deb package for you07:38
linuxuz3romg ubuntu 14.0407:40
mortal_hello ubuntu07:46
mortal_anyone alive?07:47
cfhowlettmortal_, ask you ubuntu question07:48
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Guest97695What could cause var/log/atop.log to rapidly fill up?07:52
llutz_Guest97695: check the content. most likely a misconfigured atop process?07:54
Guest97695llutz_: Ok. But the file seems hashed though.07:55
Guest97695llutz_: e.g. a 33 MB file of contents like "0000 0000 0000 332e 322e 302d 3539 2d67 "07:55
alvtecCan i install metasploit on ubuntu 13.10?07:56
llutz_Guest97695: "man atop" atop -r foo    to read the content. check you processlist for running atop-processes07:58
llutz_your*07:58
alvtecIt says supported operating systems ubuntu 8.04, 10.04, 12.04, nothing about 13.10... will it work???07:58
cfhowlettalvtec, ask the package maintainers?07:58
Guest97695llutz_: These are my processes. http://pastebin.com/QfKnsY7W08:01
Guest97695llutz_: How should i interpret the atop-r output ?08:01
thom_alvtec, it should work just fine. Seems they only mentioned LTS releases.08:01
llutz_Guest97695: ctrl-c, q? idk, i haven't used atop much08:02
lesnik_Hi08:03
seronishow do i get UNetBootin to recognize a usb mounted external hard drive?08:03
llutz_Guest97695: but tbh, if you run atop, why don't you read about how to use it?08:03
seronistrying to turn my 500gb into a live installer08:03
lesnik_I've update the system to ubuntu 14.04 32bit. I've changed scaling-facor by the ui tool, and now have everything realy huge. Can't set it back to the normal size.08:04
seronisit wasnt visible in UNetBootin when it was formatted as ntfs, ext2 nor fat3208:05
lesnik_tried set it by gsetting08:05
Guest97695llutz_: Actually, it is not something i chose, maybe i can uninstall it?. It was preinstalled on my VM. Would like to know whats filling up the log files though.08:05
lesnik_but it has 4 value all the time08:05
marrygrimhi08:06
yokobrhey guys.... i'm getting a really low performance with my 1gb 7400m discrete gpu08:06
cisconinjaOk,so in my windows i have installed cygwin/X how do i make my ubuntu 13.10 desktop display in my windows08:06
RaMcHiPTechI have a noob question.  I am using ubuntu server and start running a miner through SSH.  How do I get the screen back if I lose connection to SSH?08:08
llutz_RaMcHiPTech: use screen or tmux on the server, you easily can reattach the session after a disconnect08:09
guest-hscpthWhat is on this system that connections keep redirecting to https?08:09
llutz_!screen | RaMcHiPTech08:09
ubottuRaMcHiPTech: screen is a window manager for terminal sessions, also useful over SSH. The 'byobu' package provides very useful additional utilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen08:09
RaMcHiPTechI attempted screen but could not figure out the syntax for some reason.08:10
RaMcHiPTechI attempted to attach to the PID through top08:10
llutz_RaMcHiPTech: screen -r08:10
RaMcHiPTechThanks, I will try that again :)08:10
marrygrimcisconinja:  heres a guess http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLAYfwUPj7s08:11
marrygrimyokobr:  is your right drivers installed?08:11
marrygrimyokobr:  is your video card and software supported?08:12
marrygrimhtop!08:12
guest-hscpthhtop?08:12
marrygrim!htop08:12
marrygrim!htop | marrygrim08:13
guest-hscpthWhy does htop make the http reset to https?08:13
RaMcHiPTechThanks llutz_! Worked great08:13
marrygrimguest-hscpth:  https is more surcure08:13
RaMcHiPTechI dont know how I missed that08:14
guest-hscpthmarrygrim, what is making it use https?08:14
cisconinjamarrygrim: i got that, i want to know to get display the whole desktop08:14
kafkaquestion, I am working at a place that uses a shared file system and therefor there's 1 server which they install all the apps on and the rest of the workstations are running it from the server. each user has a homedir with a small quota, Also the server has eclipse installed on it so every time a user is running eclipse from his workstation, eclipse is using quota space to store osgi/bundles and that maxes out the quota, now my question, is there any way to c08:15
marrygrimguest-hscpth:  im guessing its a default option.08:15
marrygrimcisconinja:  whats it doing now?08:16
guest-hscpthbazhang was able to switch it08:16
guest-hscpthmarrygrim, so where is the option to change it08:16
cisconinjamarrygrim: i am trying startx08:17
cfhowlett!server|kafka, ask the server channel??08:17
ubottukafka, ask the server channel??: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server08:17
cisconinjamarrygrim: i get this X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.08:17
cisconinjawhen i do xterm it works08:18
marrygrimguest-hscpth:  why would you need to change it? your knowing puting your self at more risk. do at your own cost.  atm no to you question08:18
cisconinjabut i am really after startx , so that i get the full desktop gui08:18
marrygrimcisconinja:  what desktop are you defaulting to?08:19
cisconinjamarrygrim: what do you mean please?08:19
seronishow can i get UNB to recognize a usb mounted external hdd when trying to create a persistant liveusb install ?08:19
seronismy drive does not show up in UNB whether its mounted or unounted.  and whether its formatted as ntfs, ext2 nor fat3208:19
marrygrimcisconinja:  what desktop are you using?08:19
cisconinjamarrygrim: unity08:20
guest-hscpthmarrygrim, knowing is not putting self at risk, it is allowing choice08:20
marrygrimcisconinja:  ok so say ssh is a door and untiy is overweight enough to have a little problem using this door08:21
guest-hscpthget bazhang on the line08:22
cisconinjamarrygrim: hmmm yes08:22
marrygrimcisconinja:  is the connection over the internet or local?08:22
cisconinjamarrygrim: local08:22
guest-hscpthbazhang was able to switch it off08:22
marrygrimcisconinja:  that imagitive door got a bit bigger  but the fat guy still has problems08:23
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marrygrimseronis:  remount is a few times  if that dont work restart08:24
d1rkp1ttHi All, I have hardened a server. And I am accessing that server via ssh. The keys were created on client1. Now I am replacing client1 with a new client, and want to move the keys over to access the server08:25
guest-hscpthco-operate08:25
d1rkp1ttHaving only done this via a tutorial once08:25
d1rkp1ttIm having trouble give client 2 access08:25
cisconinjamarrygrim: http://pastebin.com/2dDwES6v08:25
d1rkp1ttso far, I have copied id_rsa from client 1 to client 2 within ~/.ssh08:25
d1rkp1ttAny help would be appreciated08:25
guest-hscpthI am knowing and it is no more danger than ignorance.08:26
topid1rkp1tt: you need to copy the id_rsa.pub also i think08:26
guest-hscpthco-operate08:26
d1rkp1tttopi, hmm not sure where that bad boy is08:27
llutz_d1rkp1tt: have you chowned the id-file to the user on client2?08:27
guest-hscpthI am going to make a cert authority on this machine.08:27
d1rkp1ttyeah08:27
guest-hscpthI do not want the others making https.08:27
marrygrimcisconinja:  heres a guess http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3GauE29eHA08:27
guest-hscpthco-operate08:28
llutz_d1rkp1tt: and you don't need the .pub08:28
d1rkp1ttllutz, Yeah I think that is the pub08:28
d1rkp1tt maybe its ssh config08:28
d1rkp1ttto tell it where to look for the key08:29
marrygrimcisconinja:  there is a few differnet way to solve your problm08:29
llutz_d1rkp1tt: the foo.pub is the one being transfered to the remote site, not needed locally08:29
d1rkp1ttbut I figure that location is default08:29
llutz_d1rkp1tt: use ssh -vv user@host             and check the output for errors08:29
d1rkp1ttok, yeah makes sense08:29
cisconinjamarrygrim: checking it08:29
d1rkp1ttJust permission denied (publik key)08:30
d1rkp1ttoh,08:30
d1rkp1ttbut wait theres more...08:30
d1rkp1ttIts ignored because my permissions are too open08:30
topid1rkp1tt: is the $HOME on client2 and see the permissions. Compare it to what $HOME is on client1.08:30
d1rkp1tt077708:30
d1rkp1ttooops08:30
llutz_d1rkp1tt: chmod 0600 .ssh/*08:30
d1rkp1ttgood plan08:30
d1rkp1ttthanks08:31
llutz_d1rkp1tt: chmod 0700 .ssh/08:31
marrygrimd1rkp1tt:  when you move "clients" the  new one will need a new key. but i seen a way to just "copy things over" and for the most of it works08:31
d1rkp1ttIm in08:31
d1rkp1tt!08:31
d1rkp1ttshot08:31
d1rkp1ttllutz, Thanks for that, you rock08:31
d1rkp1ttnew dev environment set up on 13.10 now08:32
d1rkp1ttnice08:32
guest-hscpthWithout choice there can be no virtue.08:32
marrygrimcisconinja:  hered another http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XzbJrfZ4ak08:33
guest-hscpthThe machine needs to be cleansed.08:34
llutz_marrygrim: you don't need new keys on different clients, all can use the same secret-key. but for security reasons i'd guess it's better to use different keys08:35
marrygrimcisconinja:  just incase you didnt know there is a portable version  ,also i think you can use portableapps.com  too as the launcher.  http://sourceforge.net/projects/cygwinportable/08:36
marrygrimllutz_:  that you are right, but it gmama pc is action funny and her computer is a very low risk then you can if you will,share that key.08:38
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marrygrimllutz_:  so if grandma pc is action funny and yoour the "computer help guy" in the family ,then  you can ust set to as the same or few master keys in rotation.  family calls you like once a month to fix their stuff. are you going to remember their passwords08:40
marrygrimcisconinja:  are you there?08:41
fredrik_I have a program that I need to start some 10-20 seconds after Ubuntu have finished started and with root-privileges like this: "sudo /usr/sbin/newcs.i686". I don't want to have to login myself to run this... How do I solve this?08:42
llutz_fredrik_: add it to /etc/rc.local08:43
cisconinjamarrygrim: yes i am here , just trying to keep up with all the info you are providing08:43
marrygrimfredrik_:  google start up scripts08:43
fredrik_llutz_, Will it start it with sudo if I put it in rc.local?08:44
marrygrimfredrik_:  what are you trying to aotu run in the  first place?08:44
llutz_fredrik_: it is run as root, so no sudo needed. just make sure you add it above the "exit 0" line08:44
fredrik_ok.. llutz_ I'll try that.. thanks!08:44
marrygrimllutz_:  fredrik_  does he need to login as  root in the script?08:45
llutz_marrygrim: scroll up "run with sudo .. no user login ..:"08:46
marrygrimllutz_:  right , what if he needs to manually input a password in ?08:48
llutz_marrygrim: why would he?08:48
fredrik_llutz, It didn't work... where can I find logfiles over what went wrong when running rc.local?08:49
llutz_marrygrim:idk what newcs.i686 is, but if he just want to start that with root-rights, rc.local is one way t do08:49
marrygrimllutz_:  well if sudo is invoked then locigally a passkey should follow08:49
marrygrimllutz_:  ok08:50
llutz_marrygrim: rc.local doesnt need sudo, it runs already as root08:50
cisconinjamarrygrim: so i am following his instruction and trying to run kwin & but i get this error "$ X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.kwin: FATAL ERROR while trying to open display localhost:10.0"08:50
marrygrimoh ok08:50
llutz_fredrik_: check /var/log/messages or syslog for any info08:51
marrygrimcisconinja:  the last part is because ur monitor needs to be pointed out08:51
cisconinjamarrygrim: how?08:52
ivanohello08:52
ivanoibibio08:52
marrygrimcisconinja:  https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=88883 if your doing this over ssh08:52
ivanosearch ibibio08:53
RaMcHiPTechllutz_:  Can I use screen in a bash script upon startup?08:53
ivanoffff08:54
cfhowlett!info ibibio|ivano,08:54
ubottuPackage ibibioivano does not exist in saucy08:54
cfhowlett!info ibibio|ivano,08:55
cfhowlett!info ibibio08:55
ubottuPackage ibibio does not exist in saucy08:55
marrygrimcfhowlett:  a setting or settings are not correct for what your doing08:55
llutz_RaMcHiPTech: yes, something like "/bin/su user -c "/usr/bin/screen -dmS mysession bash -c "/script""08:55
cfhowlettmarrygrim, thank you08:56
llutz_RaMcHiPTech: check screen man-page for options, not sure atm08:56
marrygrimcfhowlett:  https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.os.linux.slackware/KwN7bWX8Qvo heres a few more clues08:56
marrygrimcfhowlett:  did you get it working?08:57
cfhowlettmarrygrim, ivano see above08:57
cherujust joined...08:57
cfhowlettmarrygrim, ivano was querying ibibio ...08:57
marrygrimcfhowlett:  huh?08:57
RaMcHiPTechI think I found it - detached mode. Thanks again for everything, this helped greatly and gave me more options!08:57
llutz_!find ibibio08:57
ubottuPackage/file ibibio does not exist in saucy08:57
cfhowlettmarrygrim, I wasn't working on that package - ivano was08:57
marrygrimcfhowlett:  WHAT? IS THAT A PERSON?08:58
cfhowlettmarrygrim, he's gone ...08:59
marrygrimIVANO !!  SAY NO THANK YOU !?08:59
bekksmarrygrim: Stop shouting.08:59
llutz_drop caps please marrygrim08:59
marrygrimbekks:  llutz_  sell you help someone , then they do have manners to even say thanks09:00
marrygrimdont*09:00
bekksmarrygrim: Which is no justification for shouting around.09:00
cfhowlett!behelpful|marrygrim,09:00
ubottumarrygrim,: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.09:00
fredrik_llutz_, Can't find anything in syslog. It does'nt indicate that the rc.local is runned at all. My rc.local look like this now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7178455/09:01
marrygrimbekks:  ok ok.09:01
llutz_fredrik_: tvheadend was started correct?09:02
cherumarygrim...09:02
fredrik_llutz_, Im not shure about the tvheadend program though. I start this program without sudo. Maby this has to be started as a user. How do I do that? without that user beeing logged in?09:02
fredrik_llutz_, no none of the programs where started. I can't find their processes att all. And I can't run their webfronts eather09:03
marrygrimso im trying to install  a bittorrent on a vps so i can the world of linux torrents how do i go about doing this? also if i can have a remote webgui that would be cool09:03
llutz_fredrik_: check documentation for that. you also should use full pathes in rc.local, /usr/..../tvheadend &09:03
llutz_fredrik_: does the newcs.i686 work correctly if you start it manually?09:04
cheruam tryn to unistall microsoft office from wine but it is giving some error reports ...how do i deal with this...?//?09:05
fredrik_llutz_, Well, the documentation for tvheadend does not state that it should be runned as root. And it workes just fine if I do a "tvheadend &" in the terminal after logging in. So I'm sure it workes without privileges09:05
RaMcHiPTechPERFECT!  Thanks much llutz_!  That really hit the spot, I have the miner up and running at startup now with screen!  I am loving ubuntu server on this Proliant 580!09:06
fredrik_llutz_, both programs work fine if I start them from a terminal. Im just doing it like this "tvheadend &" and then "/usr/sbin/newcs.i686"09:06
llutz_fredrik_: start it with "/bin/su youruser -c /path/to/tvheadend &" then, check with "pgrep tvhead" if it runs09:06
fredrik_llutz_, should I put that in rc.local or just test it in terminal?09:07
llutz_fredrik_: in rc.local09:07
cheruhey..how do u unistall a programme in wine using terminal?...09:07
llutz_fredrik_: the test in terminal ofc09:07
fredrik_llutz_, Can you find out where tvheadend is located? it's in my path I'm not shure where it is :-)09:09
llutz_fredrik_: "which tvheadend"09:09
cherulllutz_..how do u unistall a programme in wine using terminal?...09:09
fredrik_llutz_, nice.. One moment.. I'll try this09:09
llutz_cheru: ask the channel, or in (#)#winehq09:10
cheruif i unistall the whole app>wine the apps inside will also be removed amin the wine apps...09:11
fredrik_llutz_, rebooting brb09:12
marrygrimso im trying to install  a bittorrent on a vps so i can the world of linux torrents how do i go about doing this? also if i can have a remote webgui that would be cool09:12
llutz_marrygrim: i've used rtorrent before, but i'm not sure about a webgui for that09:13
llutz_marrygrim: apt-cache search torrent|less          pick what you like and check if it is what you want09:14
fredrik_llutz, heureka! Tvheadend worked! Now, just newcs left09:15
marrygrimllutz_:  rtoorent i have not much of an idea.09:15
llutz_fredrik_: still no luck?09:15
llutz_fredrik_: does it need tvheadend running for start?09:15
fredrik_I commented out newcs part in rc.local .. will do another reboot now...09:15
fredrik_llutz_, nope.. it does not09:16
llutz_fredrik_: ok, so "/usr/sbin/newcs.i686 &"09:16
marrygrimllutz_:  can you help me with this?09:16
fredrik_llutz_, yepp.. rebooting again.. brb09:17
kodos992hello09:17
llutz_marrygrim: there are lots of good tutorials about rtorrent online, like libtorrent.rakshasa.no09:17
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marrygrimllutz_:  i have been staring at that and i have no idea how to even make sense of most of it09:18
marrygrimllutz_:  i have been staring at that for hours and i have no idea how to even make sense of most of it09:19
llutz_marrygrim: well, pick a different client then09:19
fredrik_llutz, IT WORKES! :-)09:19
fredrik_llutz_, thanks a million! I owe you a beer!09:19
llutz_fredrik_: glad to hear, cheers :)09:20
fredrik_probably tvheadend messed up newcs.. when I got tvheadend working the other just poped in!09:20
bekksmarrygrim: 10s search: http://vassie.me/rtorrent-and-rutorrent-on-ubuntu-server-with-nginx/09:20
marrygrimllutz_:  google keeps giving me rtorrent results as the best one for a vps09:20
marrygrimbekks:  do i have to rebuild the code if i already have it with a apt-get rtoorent comnd?09:21
bekksmarrygrim: what do you mean with "rebuild the code"?09:22
marrygrimbekks:  do i need to build rtorrent for souce as instucted in the guide if i already have it?09:24
bekksmarrygrim: Did you even read the guide I linked?09:25
marrygrimbekks:  part of it along, fast reader09:25
bekksmarrygrim: Obviously didnt understand anything then - the guide does not say a word about "manually compiling" or anything.09:26
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marrygrimbekks:  how do i get this runing without the webserver? also how do i have it always running even after restarts09:36
marrygrim  how do i get rtorrent  running without the webserver? also how do i have it always running even after restarts?09:39
kodos992hello09:40
nusenuseHello, quick question. Anyone know a good model/program to make network mental maps? Thank you09:41
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cfhowlettnusenuse, look in software center for mind maps09:43
timmytimtimoi need help onhow to setup a private cloud with ubuntu server?10:02
nw0519230hello, i'd like to bring this one:10:04
nw0519230https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/asunder/+bug/129856710:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1298567 in asunder (Ubuntu) "Please sync Asunder from Debian sid" [Undecided,New]10:05
nw0519230to the attention of the appropriate people10:05
cfhowlett!server|timmytimtimo, ask in the server channel10:05
ubottutimmytimtimo, ask in the server channel: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server10:05
nw0519230is this the correct channel to do so?10:05
cfhowlettnw0519230, you've filed a bug report?  that IS bringing it to the attention of the proper people!10:05
no_gravityGood Morning! When i put a script in /etc/crontab do i have to make sure it doesnt output anything on stderr or is stderr simply discarded?10:06
nw0519230cfhowlett: well, yeah, but i am not sure filing a bug for asunder will bring it to the attention to the people who sync packages from debian?10:07
cfhowlettnw0519230, bug team will direct it to the correct parties.  that's what the bug reporting system does.10:08
TJ-nw0519230: Have you emailed the maintainer?10:09
nw0519230TJ-: i have emailed the Debian maintainer which is listed over there http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/asunder, and asked him to update Asunder from 2.2 to 2.5. and he did. 2.5 is now available in Debian sid since a few days. but Ubuntu 14.04 LTS "Trusty Tahr" still only has 2.2, so 2.5 was not synced from Debian sid yet. would i need to email the Ubuntu maintainers which are listed on the page then ("MOTU developers" according to t10:14
TJ-nw0519230: As it's a sync from Debian you'll probably need to mail the MOTU dev mailing-list10:14
johtsoI've added a PPA, but the expected package isn't shown when I run "apt-cache madison python-git", is there something special I need to do to ignore the standard source and look at the custom PPA?10:16
pikimeistercheck if the ppa is above the default one in the sources.list10:17
pikimeisterand don't forget to apt-get update10:18
johtsopikimeister, I don't see it in /etc/apt/sources.list .. but it's definitely added because I see it in the output of apt-get update10:19
TJ-johtso: most additional repos are added in "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/"10:20
TJ-johtso: Also, have you done "apt-cache policy $PACKAGE" ... that will show all sources for the package. If the PPA version isn't there, then there's possibly a foreign architecture issue10:21
snp_Hi all, I want to do a  boot-repair, but I can't . It says the mode is on EFI system but not any EFI system detected. What does this mean?10:22
johtsoTJ-, the PPA isn't there10:22
TJ-johtso: So you haven't added it then :)10:22
johtso(in apt-cache policy output)10:22
pikimeisterhow did u add the ppa? apt-add-repository ... ?10:23
johtsopikimeister, on a low level, I assume so, on a higher level, I'm using salt10:24
TJ-johtso: "grep -rn ppa /etc/apt/" to check if there is any sign of any PPA entries at all10:24
johtsoTJ-, it's in sources.list.d10:25
johtsoand I see it in the output of apt-get update10:25
pikimeisterand is there a package available for your release?10:25
johtsoand I have at least one package installed from that PPA10:25
TJ-johtso: OK, so the package isn't available from the PPA10:26
johtsobut this one also happens to be available on the official repositories10:26
TJ-johtso: Check that the PPA has a build for the architecture, and release, of the installed system10:26
pikimeisterit should overwrite10:26
pikimeisterif its newer10:26
pikimeisterthe default repos10:26
johtsoTJ-, strange, but I see the package here: https://launchpad.net/~saltstack/+archive/salt10:26
johtsopython-git10:26
TJ-johtso: And what release is the system you're working with? That package is for Lucid.10:27
johtsooh damn, that'll be it then..10:28
pikimeisteru can force it10:28
pikimeisterif u really need10:28
pikimeisterbut that is your problem.10:28
pikimeisterand you need to make sure you have all dependencies10:28
johtsocheers for the help, too many assumptions :)10:28
TJ-johtso: It's an 'all' build so no binaries, just scripts, but I'd think the Python version it requires might conflict with the version on your system(s), so you'd need to verify that10:29
Haix64Hi. How do I run the ssh server on Kubuntu 13.10? isn't it supposed to be "service ssh start"?10:29
johtsoah okay, so there's a chance I could just force install it without any issues10:29
jasabellahow do i get cups to bind to a ipv6 LAN address only?10:30
cfhowlettjohtso, "force" pretty much implies issues to one degree or another ...10:31
TJ-johtso: It looks like abandon-ware10:31
johtsoTJ-, yeah, it's a dependency of the salt project, and they're looking to switch to something else ASAP10:32
TJ-johtso: I know; that's one of the things I got annoyed by10:32
adrenalinkHello! I can't boot from Live Ubuntu 12.04. My notebook is an Acer e1-522. Any suggestion?10:33
g105bMy laptop is a new intel chip, 64 bit. Should I install the intel i386 or AMD64 Ubuntu image?10:33
pikimeisterg105b, ram?10:33
g105bpikimeister: 8GB10:34
pikimeisteramd6410:34
jasabella64bit then :)10:34
g105bhow do you know?10:34
jasabella32bit machines dont like >4gb ram10:34
TJ-adrenalink: What does "can't boot" actually mean? Please describe the symptoms precisely10:34
pikimeisteri386 is for old machines with few ram, it used 3,2GB of RAM for operating sistem only.10:34
g105baha ok. So is the decision purely on how much ram there is?10:35
pikimeisterso you won't be using your ram properly10:35
pikimeisterif u go with that.10:35
pikimeisteras long as your cpu is 64bit10:35
pikimeister64 is the choice nowadays10:35
g105bah cool thanks.10:35
pikimeisterless than 3GB Ram -> i38610:36
TJ-g105b: Not entirely, but using 64bit means the physical address space doesn't present limitations that have to be worked around using PAE. 64-bit CPUs also have many more, larger, registers which makes many applications execute slightly faster10:36
adrenalinkTJ-  Ubuntu seems to start. It pass the screen with the Ubuntu charger, but end with a black window or a white window10:36
g105bThanks for the concise information TJ- pikimeister jasabella10:37
TJ-adrenalink: I think we had an issue with the same model a few days ago; the workaround was the usual: add "nomodeset" to the kernel command-line options at the boot menu where you see "Try Ubuntu"10:37
adrenalinkwith Ubuntu 12.04 live I don't see Try ubuntu. It starts automatically10:38
TJ-adrenalink: So long since I used that live ISO thought I can't give you exact instructions on keys to press to edit the kernel command-line10:38
adrenalinkI found on the web F610:38
TJ-adrenalink: It does? Hmmm...  so long since I used 12.04 ISO!10:38
adrenalinkbut it opens a little window with no visible options10:39
adrenalinkcould it be a problem with UEFI?10:39
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TJ-adrenalink: Comment 5 in this question shows the screen I'm referring to, and how to get to it:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/129116/12-04-wont-boot-from-live-cd-or-usb10:40
TJ-adrenalink: UEFI should be using CSM/legacy mode to start the ISO10:40
TJ-adrenalink: Also, the obvious question: have you done a "Check disk for defects" or compared the checksum of the ISO image with the published checksum - that will prove if there might be corruption of the image itself10:41
tez36887hello world10:42
tez36887hi10:43
tez36887hello10:43
cfhowletttez36887, what is your ubuntu question?10:43
tez36887i dont have one10:43
adrenalinkTJ- I installed Ubuntu on another PC with the same USB stick (same Ubuntu over it), so it should be ok.10:43
cfhowlett!topic > tez36887,10:43
tez36887i am new to this, and no nothing10:44
antoSALVE10:44
adrenalinkTJ- I can access that screen, But when I type each possible option, I obtain only the raw option pane (  a grey structure, scrollable, but with NO options... it seems to be a bug)10:44
tez36887Long live LINUX!!10:45
cfhowlett!ot|tez36887,10:45
ubottutez36887,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!10:45
tez36887so am i in the sh!t?10:46
cfhowletttez36887, profanity is not acceptable.  stop.10:46
tez36887sorry10:46
MonkeyDusttez36887  did you have an ubuntu support question?10:46
tez36887no, i am just learning how to use this irc system10:46
MonkeyDusttez36887  great, then type /join #ubuntu-ot, but behave there, too10:47
tez36887i would like to know how to speed up graphics on the system though10:47
TJ-adrenalink: Sounds like a problem if the display isn't being rendered at all10:48
tez36887theres no one in that chat10:48
MonkeyDusttez36887  i mistyped, it's #ubuntu-offtopic10:49
ocooelHow much difference will there be installing 13.10 64bit instead of 32bit when the laptop only has 4GB ram10:49
bekksocooel: choose 64bit if your hardware is capable of 64bit.10:49
cfhowlettocooel, your system will support 64 bit so there's no reason NOT to run it.10:49
ocooelbekks, cfhowlett, main concern is installation of google earth10:50
bekksWhy is that a concern at all?10:50
adrenalinkTJ- How can I solve it?10:51
ocooelbekks, attempt to do it on an another system failed due to dependancy issue and 32bit stable version installs but didn't launch10:51
cfhowlettocooel, google earth will run on 64 bit10:51
TJ-adrenalink: As I said, my first step would be to confirm the image it is booting has the correct checksum, to rule out possible corruption. If that is OK, I'd then run the "Test Memory" option, then I'd go back to adding the "nomodeset" option, since that is the usually the culprit for black-screen issues (incorrect modes are selected)10:52
adrenalinkTJ- How to check the usb stick?10:53
ocooelbekks, cfhowlett, used both methods without success http://askubuntu.com/questions/366438/how-to-install-google-earth-64bit-in-ubuntu-13-10-ia32-libs-dependency-error and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth10:53
bekksocooel: The latter cannot be used anymore, since the medibuntu ppa is offline.10:55
cfhowlettbekks, actually medibuntu is dead.10:55
bekksocooel: And what exactly didnt work with the first?10:55
bekkscfhowlett: yeah.10:55
ocooelbekks, attempt was to download 32bit .deb and install package lsb-core then install .deb with gdebi. This method didn't work. The first method launched, then closed before loading layers.10:57
TJ-adrenalink: If you wrote the ISO to the USB, you can unmount it, then do "md5sum /dev/sdX" where X is the USB's device letter. Then compare that with the published MD5 checksums on the download pages10:57
bekksocooel: And did you start it in a terminal to actually see see error?10:58
ocooelbekks, how can I do that for you to look at?10:58
ocooelbekks, just use the terminal to open the program?10:59
TJ-adrenalink: Or, you can use the live image's own "Check disc for defects" option11:01
bekksocooel: open a terminal, and start the application from terminal.11:02
ocooelbekks, one minute11:03
ocooelbekks,11:05
ocooelbekks, brother is using internet and slowed me google earth download :-(11:05
adrenalinkTJ- I I checked the .iso and it's ok. I am also checking the usb but it does not seems to work...11:06
adrenalinkTJ- (I also found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/152847/how-to-access-boot-options-12-04-live-usb  The problem I have is described in the comments of the first response)11:07
adrenalinkTJ- Finish usb checksum. It is completely different from the Ubuntu 12.04 one. ( f04c6b4dc5dd5f5fd9aa84c446bab13a  )11:08
bekksadrenalink: how did you create the usb, just by using dd?11:09
cfhowlettadrenalink, then you did not get a good download.11:09
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adrenalinkTJ- No, using the program in Ubuntu (disk creator)11:09
bekksadrenalink: then you cant compare tghe checksums at all. :)11:09
cfhowlettadrenalink, are you checking the downloaded ISO or the USB ?11:09
cfhowlett!md5sum11:10
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows11:10
adrenalinkI checked both11:10
adrenalinkthe .is is ok11:10
adrenalinkthe usb not11:10
bekksadrenalink: the usb cannot be ok at all :)11:10
adrenalinkI compared with the Ubuntu 12.04 official11:10
cfhowlettadrenalink, you doin it wrong11:10
adrenalinkthat is what TJ- said to me...11:10
bekksadrenalink: the disk creator does not copy the iso to the usb, but extracts it, modifies files, etc.11:11
adrenalinkbeeks: yes of course!11:11
adrenalinkso?11:11
bekksadrenalink: so the checksum will differ. Obviously.11:11
cfhowlettadrenalink, go to the link and see "check the CD" section.  yes, you have a USB not a CD but similar process11:11
cfhowlettadrenalink, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#Check_the_CD11:12
trijntjeI'm trying to figure out whicih usb-ports on my pc are usb-2 using lsusb, but I've tried every usb port on my pc and none register  at11:16
trijntjeBus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub11:16
trijntjeBus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub11:16
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BehiHi, why in some preseed.cfg files, the same line appears multiple times? For example, "d-i partman-lvm/confirm boolean true" is repeated two times here: https://github.com/flomotlik/packer-example/blob/master/http/preseed.cfg11:16
bekksBehi: thats a good question for the author of that file.11:26
MaxFrameshi11:26
Behibekks I assume that is redundant, right?11:26
BehiI have a feeling most of these preseed files are copy pasted without much care an attention11:27
MaxFramesubuntu 13.10 cuts some dozen pixels on my external hdmi tv, I have a dual screen setup where the main display is my lcd monitor (dvi) and the secondary display is my fullhd tv (hdmi), both are 1920x1080, but whatever I set the resolution to on my tv, it always cuts the top,bottom,right and left borders11:28
MaxFrameskubuntu 13.10 does the same thing so it's definitely *ubuntu's fault, no problems with windows11:28
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MaxFramesI've read on the forums that I should set the tv's offset parameters, but #1 they are not configurable on my tv and #2 the problem is just with ubuntu, if the tv wasn't able to display a 1920x1080 picture over hdmi I would have the same problem on all OS's11:30
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TJ-MaxFrames: On Windows, did you install drivers specific to the TV?11:33
thom_Maxframes, do you have the screens mirrored?11:37
MaxFramesTJ-: no, just the ati catalyst drivers11:37
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adrenalinkbeeks cfhowlett : I used the instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#Check_the_CD. It says:11:38
adrenalinkchecksum for input image: c7f439e864d28d9e5ca2aa885c4ec4cb11:38
adrenalinkchecksum for output disk: d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e11:38
adrenalinkverification failed!11:38
TJ-MaxFrames: The usual cause is that the TV provides an incorrect EDID so the OS has to guess at the modelines that the TV will accept11:38
thom_adrenalink, what seems to be your problem?11:38
cfhowlettadrenalink, you still doin it wrong, son...11:38
cfhowlettadrenalink, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#Check_the_CD11:38
cfhowlettTHIS is how you check your USB11:38
MaxFramesTJ-: from the users's perspective, given that if I can't fix this I will not switch from xp to ubuntu like I'd planned.... how do I fix it?11:38
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adrenalinkcfhowlett: I used the script listed in that page11:39
adrenalink(in the section you linked)11:40
cfhowlettadrenalink, so you're saying the downloaded ISO checksums don't match = bad download.  use torrents instead of direct download.11:40
rypervencheMaxFrames: There is almost always a fix in Linux, it's simply a matter of finding it. Be sure to give it a good try. Don't give up too easily.11:41
TJ-MaxFrames: The only way I know of is to try to obtain the correct modelines from the Windows side, and use those for the X server. Have you looked at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" to see if/what the X server and graphics drivers is being told/finding out about the display?11:41
adrenalinkcfhowlett: NO. I said the downloaded iso match the checksum given here http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/MD5SUMS11:41
MaxFramesso far I've only tried the live cd11:41
MaxFramesI'm reluctant to commit the OS to the hdd if I'm not sure I can fix all the most prominent issues11:41
adrenalinkThe USB checksum (which I check using the script I said) does not match.11:41
adrenalinkSO I think I have to recreate the USB11:42
TJ-MaxFrames: pastebin the file I mentioned, lets see what the OS discovered11:42
thom_MaxFrames, booting from a live cd will not give you the best results for a dual monitor setup. I installed a Linux distro on a friends desktop that was running XP. It was buggy before it was installed. After the install it worked fine.11:42
MaxFrameswell I can't now, because I've only have this single PC, and I've booted windows now11:42
cybrNautBehi: preseed files are very touchy.  they are not merely configuration files, and order seems to be important.  In debian I've removed lines from a preseed.cfg, and it caused an infinite loop (iow, the installer is not smart enough to ask the user when data is omitted)11:42
cfhowlettadrenalink, instead of script, check the USB directly11:42
MaxFramesso what I can do is install ubuntu, then come back here11:42
adrenalinkit's the same thing...11:43
MaxFramesI will need guidance step by step, I'm afraid11:43
rypervencheMaxFrames: You could shrink your NTFS partition, install Ubuntu side by side with Windows to test this out then remove them both and use only Ubuntu.11:43
thom_MaxFrames, it's super easy to install Ubuntu.11:43
cfhowlettadrenalink, can't be.  checking CD directly does NOT give a checksum hash output11:43
MaxFramesI have a whole hdd to devote to ubuntu , 200 gb11:43
TJ-adrenalink: If you're checksumming the entire USB device, and it is bigger than the ISO image (as it will be 99.99% of the time!) then the checksums will end up different. You need to limit the range of the checksum to the exact same number of bytes as are in the ISO image11:43
MaxFramesI want to keep xp on hdd1 and install ubuntu on hdd211:43
MaxFramesand I want to be able to choose which to boot every time11:44
nw0519230MaxFrames: what TV do you have= manufacturer and model? what you describe sounds like as if overscan is turned on on your TV11:44
cfhowlettadrenalink, scratch that . .. let me read more11:44
MaxFramesit's a panasonic viera something11:44
nw0519230MaxFrames: exact model please :)11:45
MaxFrameswhen I install ubuntu, other than choosing to install on the blank hdd, where do I tell it to put grub? on the first hdd (the one with windows xp) or on the second hdd (the one with ubuntu)?11:45
MaxFramespanasonic is so smart that they didn't write the model anywhere :/11:46
rayaanhow can i get the latest version of emacs in ubuntu ( apt-get install emacs24 installs 24.1.1) the latest stable version is 24.311:46
rayaan?11:46
MaxFramesI would have to dig out the manual11:46
nw0519230MaxFrames: look at the back of the TV11:46
MaxFramesit's screwed to the wall... it's a 42" plasma11:46
MaxFrameswhat about grub anyway, where would it go? hdd1 or hdd2? the installer lets me choose any11:47
MaxFrames_either_11:47
MaxFramesI'm a bit confused because I'd used ubuntu in wubi mode before11:48
nw0519230MaxFrames: how old is it and are you from the US or from EU?11:48
MaxFramesthis time I don't want to use wubi, I want to give ubuntu its own hdd and use ext411:48
MaxFramesbut the installer doesn't clearly distinguish.... I can only choose to use ubuntu alongside windows, or replace windows11:48
MaxFramesI want to use it alongside, but not with wubi11:49
MaxFramesI'm in EU anyway and the tv is from 200911:49
nw0519230MaxFrames: ok, wait a sec :)11:49
thom_MaxFrames, did you boot into the dvd/usb?11:49
adrenalinkTJ-  cfhowlett I don't know exactly if the script in this section https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#Check_the_CD check only the number of bytes of the ISO, however I also tried this command:11:49
adrenalinksudo dd if=/dev/sdc1 bs=2048 count=375296 | md5sum11:49
adrenalinkand the checksum is ( 94d39f583724c395446717be34077844 ) different from the UBuntu12.04 release one11:49
TJ-adrenalink: which exact ISO did you download? can you give me the filename, then I can check on the download page11:50
adrenalinkI used ls -l ubuntu-12.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso the know the size of che ISO11:50
TJ-adrenalink: thanks11:50
MaxFramesok, it's a panasonic tx-p42s10e or tx-p42s10es11:50
MaxFramesthom_: I booted the dvd, and looked at the install choices11:51
MaxFramesit gave me those two, I expected three (wubi, dual boot, replace windows)11:51
MaxFramesI want dual boot11:52
TJ-adrenalink: So the file size of the ISO is 768606208?11:52
adrenalinkTJ-  cfhowlett Yes.  2048 x 37529611:52
thom_I usually do laptop installs. My desktop install experience is limited so take this with a grain of salt. It should give you the options to install along side XP, replace XP, and something else. I am pretty sure you will have to use the something else option.11:53
lucasredsn0wmm11:53
lucasredsn0wemm...11:53
TJ-adrenalink: OK, so if the md5 is different then the image on USB is corrupt - re-write it11:53
adrenalinkTJ- OK11:53
cfhowlettadrenalink, TJ- it does happen.11:53
cfhowlettTJ-, thanks11:53
lucasredsn0wadrenalink, DON'T use any ISOs that have corrupt md5 sum11:54
lucasredsn0wMaybe there're malwares inside them11:54
MaxFramesI've found a setting in the tv about overscan11:54
thom_MaxFrames, if you actually booted from the dvd it will not be the Wubi install11:54
MaxFramesand it's ON now11:54
tsiscoHello. I am having some issues with the Realtek 8188ee wireless adapter on my Toshiba Laptop. I have the driver installed and I can get wifi on it, but its not stable. Anyone have any suggestions?11:54
lucasredsn0wSo be careful11:54
adrenalinklucasredsn0w Don't worry. The ISO is correct. The USB is not.11:54
MaxFramesif I turn overscan to off, in win xp, the image shrinks i.e. does not take the whole estate11:55
lucasredsn0wThat;s ok11:55
MaxFramesbut I guess I can play with it11:55
MaxFramesso, ok, if I boot from the dvd I will choose "install alongside windows" and it will dual boot11:56
MaxFramesso: on which hdd should I put the boot loader?11:56
lucasredsn0wadrenalink, change your USB drive11:56
lucasredsn0wMaxFrames, On your master HDD11:57
nmgmarquesHi all. Having problems with postgresql. Trying top follow the guide over at https://www.openproject.org/projects/openproject/wiki/Installation_Ubuntu and am down to the bit where it tells me to create role openproject. In term, the prompt reads openproject@multibox:~$ and then I type CREATE ROLE openproject LOGIN ENCRYPTED PASSWORD 'my_password' NOINHERIT VALID UNTIL 'infinity'; but get a CREATE:command not found. Guessing this is b11:57
lucasredsn0wWhich installed your system11:57
nw0519230MaxFrames: go to "Menu -> Setup -> Other Settings -> Picture Overscan" and turn it to "Off" if it is currently "On". does it help :)?11:57
lucasredsn0wIn most cases that should be "/dev/sda0"11:57
nw0519230MaxFrames: oh, and by the way, if you want to see what the model is, i think you can go to "Menu -> Setup -> System Menu -> System Information" ;)11:57
nmgmarquesGuesing I have to som how get into postgresql?11:57
MaxFramesnw0519230: thanks, it'll probably work, I'll try11:58
MaxFramesso, I'll put grub on the drive on which windows xp is11:59
MaxFramesnext and last question: if I let ubuntu do everything automatically, how will it partition the hdd, will it create the swap partition itself? or should I go for a manual install and partition myself?11:59
nw0519230MaxFrames: np. do you have access to the TV right now? would like to know if it worked ;)11:59
TJ-MaxFrames: Or you could install it to the Linux drive, and use the system's boot menu to choose the boot device - that stops Windows and Linux interfering with each other's bootloaders11:59
MaxFramesnw0519230: it works but on xp it shrinks the image too much, perhaps with ubuntu it will show it ok12:00
ljsoftnetcan i make 2 instances of volumeicon? i mean two volume icon in system tray for 2 sound cards12:01
MaxFramesTJ-: so if I do that, and then configure the bios to boot hdd2 first, I will be able to just use ubuntu and - if need be - change the bios settings to boot xp, without putting anything on the xp disk (not even grub)?12:01
nw0519230MaxFrames: the catalyst drivers also have a overscan/underscan setting, see: http://i.stack.imgur.com/ZKd0B.png . just saying ;)12:02
ntzhello12:02
Blueeyezhi ntz :)12:02
cfhowlettntz, what is your ubuntu question?12:03
TJ-MaxFrames: Yes... most BIOS/Firmware have a 'hot' key you can press to choose the boot device without needing to change the BIOS's saved default, too12:03
MaxFramesnw0519230: and are there ati catalyst drivers for ubuntu?12:03
MaxFramesif I want to use proprietary drivers12:03
chndnon ubuntu...virtualbox is not running...12:05
chndni donno why?12:05
chndnit says failed to create the virtualbox COM object12:05
cfhowlettchndn, error messages?12:05
thom_MaxFrames, there is an option in system settings to install third party drivers12:05
cisconinjai am successful in using cygwin and can export x application to my widows machine , i am able to start kwin & but failing to start kde desktop please help. this is on 13.1012:05
MaxFramesok thanks12:06
cfhowlettchndn, go to #vbox for support12:06
chndnNS_ERROR_FACTORY_NOT_REGISTERED (0x80040154)12:06
MaxFrameswhat about the partitioning then, do I have to tell it to create the swap partition manually?12:06
herkelBLUEHello, how do i create a file in linux that has execution privileges of ROOT (i think its called suid) .. i did sudo chmod +s and then i entererd "whoami" into the the file and it didnt say root12:07
Blueeyezif someone have a suggestion for Ubuntu future developement, where to post the suggestion?12:08
cfhowlett!contribute12:08
ubottuTo contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu12:08
Blueeyezthx :)12:09
nw0519230MaxFrames: yes, there are, they can be selected/installed via this dialogue for example: http://i.stack.imgur.com/b7YPS.png12:09
MaxFramessounds promising, now just tell me about the partitioning and I'll try to give it a go :)12:10
cisconinjai am successful in using cygwin and can export x application to my widows machine , i am able to start kwin & but failing to start kde desktop please help. this is on 13.1012:10
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shfinbgfoI installed tor as adviced by their webpage12:11
nw0519230MaxFrames: looks like they even have the overscan/underscan setting in linux, see following picture for example: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MkVTHvrFnpw/UNSJit73CEI/AAAAAAAAJvM/tm-yGL-CJXY/s1600/Catalyste-Control-Center-Overscan.png ;) can't tell for sure though, as i am a nvidia user, not amd ;)12:11
shfinbgfoif i type tor into dash nothing pops up12:11
MaxFramesvery good12:12
nw0519230MaxFrames: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/12/how-to-remove-thick-black-border-for.html12:12
nw0519230;)12:13
ljsoftnetcan i make 2 instances of volumeicon? i mean two volume icon in system tray for 2 sound cards12:13
shfinbgfowhat are bridge relays and how do i set them up?12:14
MonkeyDustshfinbgfo  what do you want to achieve?12:14
shfinbgfoi want to browse anonymously to be able to access the bay12:15
shfinbgfoi am in a country where the bay seems to be blocked12:15
MonkeyDustthe bay?12:15
ikoniaebay I assume12:15
ikoniashfinbgfo: talk to your isp12:15
cfhowlettMonkeyDust, aaarg, there she blow!12:15
shfinbgfodue to the aggressive legislation of fallacies which go against the legal authority of the great jurist stephan kinsella12:15
ikoniashfinbgfo: not interested in the politicis - talk to ISP, find someone (not in this channel) who has a proxy12:16
ikoniathose are your options12:16
TJ-shfinbgfo: There's a court order; your ISP has to block it12:16
MonkeyDustshfinbgfo  i guess what you want to do is illegal, we cannot support that12:17
ikoniaMonkeyDust: he's already been told his options., no need to keep repeating it12:17
shfinbgforothbardian here, i prefer the term you are under threat of aggression12:18
TJ-MonkeyDust: Not necessarily; but the UK courts have order BskyB and other major ISPs to block thepiratebay12:18
ikoniashfinbgfo: you have your answer, please drop it12:18
shfinbgfook then, thanks12:19
shfinbgfohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY57F7QCAPw12:19
ikoniashfinbgfo: please don't post random spam in here12:19
ikoniashfinbgfo: this channel is for ubuntu support only12:19
thom_MaxFrames, did you start the install process?12:21
ntzi wanted to ask for one thing .. I'm just going to install ubuntu 12.04.x and I'd like to know, if there is a supported scenario to have ext4 /boot and LUKS encrypted LVM2 container for the rest ..12:24
ntzlike this http://susepaste.org/view/raw/5490601012:24
TJ-ntz: I use that scenario frequently - how do you mean by "supported" ?12:25
MaxFramesthom_: gotta go now, I will install later today or tomorrow12:25
MaxFramesalso I only have this one pc12:25
MaxFramesthanks all, cya soon12:25
ntzTJ-: thanks .. I was not sure if ubu installer can do it12:25
TJ-ntz: I'm not sure about the 12.04 installer though, I've always done it myself12:26
ntzTJ-: i was reading some articles including this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemOnIntrepid and there are terms like "alternate installer" and some hacky custom steps .. I generally asked if ubu installer can do it without any side-struggle12:28
TJ-ntz: It's a long time since I used the 12.04 installer, so can't recall if it has support.12:30
ntzhmm12:31
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ljsoftnetcan i make 2 instances of volumeicon? i mean two volume icon in system tray for 2 sound cards12:34
crocketHow do I get nodejs 0.10 on ubuntu 12.04 LTS?12:39
MonkeyDustcrocket  version 10.0 is in the repos12:41
crocketMonkeyDust, repos?12:41
MonkeyDustcrocket  in 12.04, it's 0.6, i was too fast12:42
somsipcrocket: the chris lea PPA is usually bang up to date, but see !PPA12:43
crocketyes!!!12:44
crocketHow do I easily add a custom init script to ubuntu?12:45
Fjorgynn:D12:45
adrenalinkcfhowlett TJ- I have rewrotten the USB stick ( on a new one) But I have the same issue. Ubuntu live starts but end with a black screen12:47
TJ-adrenalink: did you test the checksum again, before using it?12:48
adrenalinkThe usb stick led blink (like it seems to work)12:48
TJ-adrenalink: And, have you tried enabling the "nomodeset" option12:48
adrenalinkYes I checked, and it was different. But damn, the USB stick is new and the ISO image was correct12:48
TJ-adrenalink: Try using a different USB port, or if connected via a hub, connect directly to the PC12:49
TJ-adrenalink: ensure the port has sufficient power - self-powered hubs are more reliable, for example.12:50
vegntI have a server at home on which i host a website with some domain, i also have two internet connections from two internet providers. How can I use the second connection as a backup so that when the first one is unavailbe, my website will still be reachable through the domain?12:53
OerHeksvegnt, you need to have to switch the dns to your second provider too, that could be an issue12:55
OerHeksvegnt you might want to reask in #ubuntu-server too12:55
vegntOerHeks, thanks12:56
TJ-vegnt: A front-end proxy outside your links, configured for fail-over or load-balancing12:56
adrenalinkTJ- I am on a notebook, so the USB port should not have this kind of problem. However I retried usind nomodeset and finally It works!!13:07
kershackhello everyone, whatever I install or deinstall, there comes a line that says "Setting up mysql-server-5.5 (5.5.35-0ubuntu0.12.04.2) ..." and then I am asked to enter mysql password twice, which is always rejected with these lines: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7179294/ and then the install (or deinstall) ends with the following line : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7179277/  how can I get rid of this apparently mysql-related error?13:14
MonkeyDust kershack my guess: an mysql installation was interrupted, earlier, it now tries to continue13:16
se_bkershack: the password from mysql is not the "sudo" password13:16
kershackMonkeyDust, I tried deinstalling mysql several times, this error doesnt get removed13:17
kershackse_b, I know, but I dont remember when I entered an earlier password, and I'd like to purge it all now, but I cant.13:17
mixxhi guys how do i open the software installer tool13:19
mixxwhats the name of the program13:19
mixxim in fluxbox atm and cant find it13:19
OerHeks!fluxbox13:20
ubottufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox13:20
mixxis it ubiquity?13:20
OerHeksmixx, i can't find the standard softwarecenter for fluxbox, maybe you can install synaptic13:23
mixxcan i not load the one that gnome uses from fluxbox?13:24
slotlockeryou sure can.13:24
mixxdo you know what its called? :)13:25
hotmedalI'm upgraing from 13.04 to 13.10 and I have a Broadcom wifi driver that took a ridiculous amount of effort to get working. Will the upgrade remove that driver?13:25
se_bsoftware-center?13:25
slotlockerwhich distribution is this?13:25
mixxsoftware-center thanks!13:25
slotlockersoftware-center13:25
mixxfantastic13:25
slotlockerhotmedal: if it is BCM4313 it should work just fine.13:26
slotlockerthe opensource brcmsmac driver works well13:27
hotmedalslotlocker: is that a new thing in Saucy? Because it was an absolute pain in Raring.13:27
slotlockerna! it was around for a while. just that the experience was flaky earlier.13:27
slotlockerit works well now13:27
hotmedalslotlocker: thanks, my mind is now at ease13:28
slotlocker:)13:28
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ice9how to run 2 instances of Tor simultaneous?13:32
ikoniayou don't13:32
nshbrownwhy would you is a better question?13:33
nshbrownsetup your own tor server and tunnel through that if that's what your asking13:33
hotmedalwith a virtual machine13:33
slotlockervirtual interfaces and bind.so13:33
slotlockerspeculating. not entirely sure13:34
ice9nshbrown: it's better to have 2 separate instances 1 for browsing and another for IM maybe13:34
ikoniaice9: no13:34
ice9ikonia: why?13:34
ikoniaice9: why would i tbe bad to use the same instance ?13:34
ice9ikonia: data correlation?13:35
ikoniawhat ??13:35
nshbrownice, it's an anonymous tunnel13:35
nshbrownahh I see13:35
slotlockerhttp://daniel-lange.com/archives/53-Binding-applications-to-a-specific-IP.html13:36
ice9ikonia: for example if you access gtalk with your account then you are identified already on that exit tor node, all your browsing information can be correlated13:36
nshbrownyou want to split your traffic up?13:36
ikoniaice9: no, it can't13:36
ikoniaice9: I think you may need to get a grip on reality in terms of what people are doing13:36
ice9ikonia: then please tell me about it13:36
ikoniause 1 session13:37
hotmedalikonia: in light of recent events, no amount of paranoia is unreasonable. imho13:37
mixxwhat recent events13:37
ikoniasorry, thats stupid13:37
hotmedalmixx: NSA et al13:37
slotlockerhonestly, don't see how having two sessions is better than having one. but if you are really particular you can create a virtual interface and make tor use that interface using bind.so13:38
slotlockerbut then again, not worth the effort13:38
ikoniaits stupid13:38
hotmedalsay tor gives you an exit IP X, and you use it to visit website A, then you visit website B, now 'they' know that this visitor was the same person, so maybe having another tor session would give you 2 exit IPs13:41
ikoniabut your first session is anonymous anyway, so who cares13:41
hotmedalI think that's ice9's idea13:41
ikoniaif you don't trust that your session is anonymous what's the point of running a second untrusted session13:41
hotmedaltrue13:42
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bananapiehey I just installed Lubuntu using the Wubi installer, but I can't find Lubuntu anywhere. When I click the installer it says that ubuntu is already installed and that I need to uninstall it to run the installer.13:44
bananapieI checked Windows bootloader and Lubuntu isn't there.13:44
ikoniawubi is dead13:44
bananapieoh13:45
hotmedalboot live ubuntu run boot manager13:45
slotlockerwubi does not work well with Windows 813:45
bananapieI don't have a cd and this stupid computer won't boot from my fun USB key. It's Windows XP.13:45
hotmedalnot booting from usb is bios problem13:45
bananapiei know.13:46
bananapiethat's why I was hoping to use wubi.13:46
hotmedalI'm sure there's a boot manager of somesort for windows13:46
slotlockercheck this out13:46
slotlockerhttp://lintut.com/how-to-boot-iso-image-from-your-hard-drive/13:46
micihttp://lintut.com/how-to-boot-iso-image-from-your-hard-drive/13:46
Ca11umAre graphic drivers automatically installed with apt-get upgrade/udate ?13:46
micisorry! forgot that putty does this funny thing with right click..13:47
slotlockeryes. unless they are proprietary drivers13:47
bananapiethat only works if I have grub13:47
bananapiei bet I could install grub from windows!13:47
Ca11umI keep having problems with a freshly installed Ubuntu on a PC with a PCI graphics card. If I use the Super menu (or whatever it is), the whole screen glitches and I must force off the PC.13:47
slotlockerbananapie: sorry! I use it all the time, did not think twice before posting13:48
bananapienever mind, I found the USB boot option in BIOS :D13:49
bananapieviva la ubuntu13:49
bananapieI just lost 45 minutes waiting for Wubi because the BIOS on this computer is stupid and not intuitive.13:57
bananapieI wish Windows and the BIOS were as easy to use as Ubuntu13:57
bekkswubi is discontinued, you should not use it.13:57
DavidBlahey, anyone know how to get ntopng working on ubuntu 13.10?14:06
ocooelbekks, cfhowlett, getting a No cache load warning upon startup after installing and removing google earth14:06
ocooelon system boot14:07
cfhowlettocooel, normal: the cache must download first to be present14:07
ocooelcfhowlett, sometimes it's stopping at the bios splash screen without going further needing to be forced to shut down. any ideas?14:08
ice9how do I completely remove kubuntu-desktop after installing it on Ubuntu?14:08
DavidBlathis is disturbing me :D damn ntop , the last century version works well. if i want to build it from source there are errors every where... if i  use /bin/echo -e "deb http://www.nmon.net/apt x64/\ndeb http://www.nmon.net/apt all/" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ntop.list and  apt-get install pfring nprobe ntopng ntopng-data n2disk nbox  they told me my kernel istn compatible14:09
ocooelice9, sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop14:09
cfhowlettocooel, if it's stopping at the BIOS, that suggests a system/hardware error - not ubuntu14:09
cfhowlettice9, sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop14:09
ice9ocooel: its said it will remove only 53KB disk space14:09
ocooelice9, try sudo apt-get autoremove kubuntu-desktop14:10
ocooelcfhowlett, hoping that's all it is, wasn't doing it before I did sudo apt-get --purge remove lsb-core14:11
DavidBlasudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get autoremove14:11
ice9ocooel: same14:11
ice9after I isntalled kubuntu-desktop I can't search apps in unity14:11
cfhowlettice9, kubuntu doesn't use unity ...14:12
ocooelice9, after installing kubuntu-desktop your shouldn't have unity14:12
ice9cfhowlett: I mean I can't search apps in ubuntu unity14:12
ice9ocooel: can't run both at the same time?14:12
cfhowlettice9, logout.  click ubuntu gear icon.  choose "ubuntu" session.  login.  unity away ...14:12
Richhhpossible to '&disown' after running a program?14:13
ice9cfhowlett: yes and then in Unity sessions the apps search is not working14:13
ocooelcfhowlett, is there a CLI tool that checks for dependencies, think the --purge remove lsb-core might have done something..?14:13
bekksocooel: Installing kubuntu-desktop will NOT remove unity in any case.14:14
cfhowlettice9, no dash at all or no results ?14:14
ice9cfhowlett: now results14:14
ice9no*14:14
cfhowlettocooel, I don't know about that14:15
cfhowlettice9, try a reboot ...14:15
ice9cfhowlett: do you know where the dash cache is stored?14:15
cfhowlettice9, I know not ...14:15
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kodos992Hello14:23
ocooelcfhowlett, here's a good one, will sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade replace any missing packages from install..?14:23
ocooelnothing happened, maybe I did something else I can't remember doing.14:24
cfhowlettocooel, only need 2: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade      will bring all currently installed packages to latest version in the repos    won't replace anything missing however.14:26
ocooelcfhowlett, how to check what sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will do..?14:27
cfhowlettocooel, it will install the ubuntu-desktop metapackages ....14:27
bekksocooel: Before installing packages, it will ask you wether you really want to do that.14:28
ocooelcfhowlett, not just any missing packages :-(14:28
bekksocooel: Packages already installed will not be reinstalled.14:29
cfhowlettocooel, it will install the default ubuntu desktop minus the one's already present as bekks stated14:29
ocooelbekks, cfhowlett, said ubuntu-desktop is already latest version.14:30
ocooelhmmm14:30
bekks1So all packages already installed.14:30
IdleOnesudo apt-get -f install > will try to fix any broken/half installed packages14:30
cfhowlettbekks, help him out: I'm on ubuntustudio, so no ubuntu (unity) experience ever.  his dash search doesn't14:30
IdleOnebut, without knowing exactly what the issue is I can't say that command will help14:31
bekkscfhowlett: I have no clue, I'm almost enever using that dash thing :)14:32
ocooelcfhowlett, bekks, that's ice914:32
cfhowlettd0h!14:32
ocooelatleast you care :-)14:33
ocooelcfhowlett, bekks, Idle0ne, is libc6:i386 a dependencie of 13.10 64bit..?14:33
ocooelI purged that one too.14:34
bekksocooel: why did you randomly purged packages?14:34
bekksocooel: And whats the actual support issue at that point?14:34
ocooelbekks, google earth install didn't work and now I'm getting weird No cache load messages on startup of ubuntu14:35
bekksocooel: And why did you start to randomly purge packages?14:35
ocooelbekks, the tutorial said to install it to be able to install google earth 64 bit, so when I removed google earth I also removed libc6:i38614:36
ocooelbekks, is what you're getting at that it's a bad thing..?14:36
IdleOneit wasn't good14:36
bekksocooel: which you had to install before installing google earth, when following the manual.14:36
ocooelbekks, yes14:37
bekksocooel: Then it isnt a bad thing.14:37
ocooelfrom this tutorial - the first answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/366438/how-to-install-google-earth-64bit-in-ubuntu-13-10-ia32-libs-dependency-error14:37
ocooelIdle0ne, sudo apt-get -f install > will try to fix any broken/half installed packages - is this the same as fixing broken packages via synaptic..?14:39
IdleOneocooel: yes14:42
ocooelIs there a CLI rule/argument that checks for missing default installation packages..?14:42
IdleOneocooel: my nick is spelled with an O not a 014:42
tewardin Ubuntu 12.04, I'm trying to create an ad-hoc wifi which will share my eth0 connection to other computers.  However, when I connect to the ad-hoc connection, it can't reach out to the internet.  Is there a way to diagnose why that's the case?14:42
ocooelIdleOne, sorry14:43
IdleOneno worries :)14:43
ocooelIdleOne, bekks, Is there a CLI rule/argument that checks for missing default installation packages..?14:43
bekksocooel: apt-get install will install all missing packages as needed.14:44
ocooelbekks, I need to be root?14:45
ocooelGot two lines of errors - 1. E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)14:46
IdleOneyes you need to use sudo14:46
ocooel2. E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?14:46
cfhowlett!lock|ocooel,14:46
cfhowlett!aptlock14:46
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »14:46
cfhowlettocooel, SEE above14:47
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IdleOnebekks: couldn't he just install libc6-i386?14:47
bekksIdleOne: why should he? It is not needed on a 64bit system.14:48
bekksocooel: Why do you panically try to install unneeded packages?14:48
IdleOnebekks: well, I'm not completely sure exactly what the issue is14:48
ocooelIdleOne, bekks, it wasn't installed in the first place, trying to cover all bases because I purged it and it might have taken a dependency for some other package.14:48
bekksocooel: No. apt-get purge would have told you.14:49
ocooelbekks, IdleOne, hahaha I installed the package as per the tutorial in askubuntu, but it didn't work or help to get google earth running so I purged it14:49
bekksocooel: And you purged it again - so everything as it was before. Done.14:49
ocooelbekks, thank you14:50
ocooelbekks, on startup, before the login screen I'm prompted with messages that didn't show before like No cache load, assuming cache etc. cfhowlett said it's normal but i've not seen it before..?14:51
jotikHello, I'm having trouble doing a network install using the mini CD. The console says "Could not find any live images". Any ideas?14:51
jotik(expert install)14:51
cfhowlettocooel, well, there is a chance that I could have been slightly mistaken ...14:52
Guest96271!list14:52
ubottuGuest96271: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».14:52
ocooelcfhowlett, I'll find out :-p14:52
rbanffyHi folks. Is there a clean way to make a "unknown monitor" (something that has EDID blocked) have 1920x1080 resolution (in addition to 800x600 and 1024x768)?14:53
blzHello, I'm trying to mount a partition on a 1TB drive in order to recover some data.  I'm not exactly sure what kind of filesystem is on there (presumably NTFS, since this is from a windows machine).  `sudo fdisk /dev/sdb -l` returns an error message, which I have posted here:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7179855/15:10
blzHow should I proceed?15:10
blzNote that I tried starting gparted, but it just hangs when checking the disk15:11
blzOr rather, it hangs on the "scanning all devices" message15:11
bekksblz: you need to use parted/gparted.15:11
bekksblz: fdisk cant deal with GPT.15:11
blzbekks, which options should I use with parted?15:12
blzbekks, gparted hangs on "Searching /dev/sdb partitions"15:12
bekksparted -l ? :)15:12
blzbekks, thanks =)15:12
blzbekks, hmm it seems like `parted -l` is hanging as well, which I guess isn't so surprising given how gparted is behaving15:13
blzbekks, erm... I spoke too soon.  sorry!15:13
blz(and thanks!)15:14
cactuswizardI have a pretty weird problems with my laptop, when accessing menu, the top of the screen starts flashing yellow15:16
sudormrf_hey guys.15:16
sudormrf_can someone verify if this line will work with inotifywait?15:17
sudormrf_http://paste.ubuntu.com/7179883/15:17
sudormrf_I set it up a while back on a different machine.  I have now migrated that machine to something else and I want to get this last piece setup.15:17
sudormrf_I have a feeling the part with the cp is wrong15:18
sudormrf_I am trying to find examples while waiting :)15:19
FoxhoundzMy Linux PC running Ubuntu Gnome Remix and is connected via  WiFi and ethernet cable to a PC running windows. Now my  Linux has already detected the network ( I guess via Samba  shares?) and is present in the file browser. HOWEVER, it's  using the WiFi connection to communicate with this PC  instead of the faster gigabit connection. Needless to say ,15:26
sudormrf_Foxhoundz: what are the metrics for your devices?15:27
sudormrf_do ifconfig | grep metric15:27
nasagalera sou novato no ubuntu e to precisando de ajuda15:29
sudormrf_Foxhoundz: see if your wifi device has a higher metric for some reason.  higher means lower15:29
sudormrf_Foxhoundz: lower metric = higher priority15:29
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Foxhoundzit started working15:30
Foxhoundz!Uhh15:30
FoxhoundzI think I forgot to assign this PC a static IP for eth015:30
A1Recon!huh15:30
sudormrf_PRIMEis anyone around that can verify my inotifywait command?15:30
sudormrf_PRIME!huh15:30
sudormrf_PRIMEI am going to see if I can pull the script off the old box15:31
sudormrf_PRIMEbecause waiting is for the birds :P15:31
bekkssudormrf_PRIME: Why dont you just try it yourself? :)15:31
nasasei que tem como, porem nao sei fazer. Estou programando em Java e qndo tem algum erro no codigo ele informa e tbm diz uma possivel solução. Qual o nome do pacote q instalo para traduzir estes avisos???15:31
cfhowlett!it|nasa,15:32
ubottunasa,: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)15:32
sudormrf_PRIMEbekks: just looking for a second set of eyes is all :)15:32
sudormrf_PRIMEbekks: two heads is better than one and all that :D15:32
sudormrf_PRIMEbekks: I think I created a bash script on the old machine.  if I did I will grab it from that.15:32
cactuswizardhmm, weird. Ubuntu uses large amount of RAM every time I start any program15:33
nasatk15:33
bekkscactuswizard: Unused RAM is wasted RAM. Did you check what exactly is using your RAM?15:33
A1ReconI am having some probems in Libreoffice while creating bullets.... What do I do when I have an answer which is already numbered  but it has some subpoints.... How do i add bullets to subpoints of a paragraph which is already numbered?15:33
cfhowlettA1Recon, ask in the libreoffice channel if no response here15:35
Wulframn!libreoffice | A1Recon15:35
ubottuA1Recon: LibreOffice is a Free and open source office suite that includes word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components. To install: "sudo apt-get install libreoffice". User help available in #libreoffice.15:35
cfhowlettWulframn, good idea15:35
A1Reconthanks!!15:35
WulframnNo worries, good luck!15:35
cactuswizardbekks: not yet, trying to figure out why screen starts flashing yellow every time I use the unity menu, 1,5GB total ram anyway and no problems earlier with unity15:36
streulmaHello, my ar5bbu22 is not working in Ubuntu 13.10, even in 14.04. Bluetooth can't detect devices. In Windows it is OK.15:36
bekkscactuswizard: The first approach would be to see what is using your RAM.15:36
sudormrf_PRIMEbekks: can you verify something for me about inotifywait?  If I run the script once, it will stay running forever, even at startup, right?15:37
bekkssudormrf_PRIME: Just test it yourself :)15:37
llameadrpccactuswizard: 2nd is to check for Xorg errors.15:38
sudormrf_PRIMEbekks: I have the script now.  I haven’t used it in a while.  IIRC it continued monitoring the directory even at startup15:38
sudormrf_PRIMEbekks: but I could be wrong about that.  in which case I may need to use incron?15:38
cactuswizardsystem monitor shows no solution, compiz using 8% of CPU/39MiB RAM15:39
llameadrpccactuswizard: sudo grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log15:41
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Guest24469hi, have a problem with my ubuntu installation, I accidentally put it into suspend mode and now it won't even get past the POST screen, what can I do?15:43
Guest24469hi, have a problem with my ubuntu installation, I accidentally put it into suspend mode and now it won't even get past the POST screen, what can I do?15:43
cactuswizardsays Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)15:43
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Guest24469anyone?15:45
arvutshouldn't a desktop install (64bit) of ubuntu 12.04 be around 6G? my rootfs is 7.4G while the partition it resides on is 8.2G so I'm constantly running low on space..15:45
cfhowlettGuest24469, reboot15:45
cfhowlettarvut, approximately but that will fill over time.  spring cleaning: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get purge15:46
Guest24469I did reboot, can't get past POST screen15:46
llameadrpcGuest24469: If you know how to sanity-check your BIOS settings, do it.15:47
cfhowlettarvut, you might need to clear your old kernels as well as they will fill the /boot partition15:47
Guest24469I can't even open up the BIOS options, it just hangs15:47
arvutcfhowlett: yeah, i do clean it from time to time. but it fills up in a matter of weeks (without any new installed programs)15:47
cfhowlettarvut, are you running logs?  saving lots of data?15:47
cfhowlettor media?15:47
arvutits a pretty fresh install too. only about 2 months old (reinstalled cause upgrating from 10.04 to 12.04 isn't safe from my experience)15:48
llameadrpcarvut: du | sort -n | tail15:48
arvutnot sure about the logs tbh15:48
arvutbut var is pretty small15:48
Guest24469any thoughts?15:49
arvutah, found a whole bunch of linuxheaders in /usr/src15:49
cfhowlettarvut, gparted can repartition your HDD - perhaps more space...you're running pretty close to the limit15:49
arvutcan I safely shred those?15:49
cfhowlettarvut, wait 115:49
cfhowlettarvut, http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-uninstall-the-old-kernels-in-ubuntu/15:50
arvutyeah, considered using some of the homepartitions space for repartition. not sure how to do it with gparted tho. I'm used to fdisk15:50
cfhowlett!home|arvut,15:50
ubottuarvut,: Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving15:50
arvut...15:51
arvutI have set up linuxsystems before15:51
arvutgentoo among others15:51
arvutthis isn't actually my own laptop, its my grandparents15:51
arvutso they wanted ubuntu15:51
cfhowlettarvut, or use lubuntu or xubuntu - less demanding on your  (presumably) limited systems resources15:52
arvutI might as well make a separate /usr and /boot partition too. those seems to fill up in no time15:52
cactuswizardhmm15:52
arvutits a core2 laptop so its not very limited15:52
arvutand they actually want unity (beyond me to understand)15:52
cfhowlettarvut, :)15:52
cfhowlettarvut, you're a good grandkid to keep them happy15:52
arvutthey pay me well =)15:53
cactuswizardhahaha :D15:53
Guest24469any thoughts on how I can get my computer up and running again?15:53
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arvutanyway, if I remap /usr and /boot and then rewrite fstab, will there be anything else that must be done in ubuntu to keep the system happy?15:53
cfhowlettarvut, regular cleaning as you described solves most problems.  also apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade15:54
arvutoh, and about uninstalling kernels, I've done that with aptitude in the past, but isn't there a quicker way? like just removing them and updating grub2?15:54
cactuswizardhey btw, could my problems come from hardware, because Ubuntu Gnome crashed every time I let it go to screensaver15:55
cfhowlettarvut, ask the channel.  I prefer the CLI method but that's just me15:55
arvutdist-upgrade is a nightmare, broke so many of my old systems (which is the reason I migrated to a more customizable flavour)15:55
llutzarvut: to remove all old kernels but the running one, you can use: dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge15:56
arvutthx llutz15:56
arvutdpkg is a package manager I never really got around to befriend :P15:56
arvutperhaps one day I can help you sort out any issues you have with portage and emerge ;)15:57
k-josephhi guys, is this the right place to ask some user but developer oriented issues?15:57
Guest24469is there any way to access my BIOS if the POST screen hangs when I press Del to enter setup?15:58
llutzarvut: i haven't used gentoo in the past 20 yrs and i doubt i will in the coming 20 ;)15:58
arvutGuest24469: thats not a ubuntu support question, but the simple answer is most likely a No.15:58
llutzGuest24469: shutdown the machine, pull the powerchord, wait 2 minutes, try again15:59
cactuswizardGuest24469: and if that doesn't work reinstall the os15:59
llutzcactuswizard: why? what does entering the BIOS setup have to do with the OS16:00
Tzunamiiarvut: For inclusion into your Bash function library:  http://hastebin.com/fovaboniba.vhdl16:00
Guest24469ok16:00
k-josephwhen ever i restart or shutdown, /tmp is emptied and some times i really loose very vital info, like firefox some times adds files downloaded into /tmp, and i in most cases forget to pick them from there before either restarting or shutting down16:00
clue_hselect choose where to download files in firefox prefs16:01
cfhowlettk-joseph, are you running from a USB or something?16:01
llutzk-joseph: check TMPTIME=x in  /etc/default/rcS16:01
cactuswizardllutz: well at least once it solved my problems16:02
llutzk-joseph: also check /etc/fstab if you have moved your /tmp into tmpfs16:02
cactuswizardllutz: and yeah, I had problems entering BIOS then16:02
arvutllutz: its only been around for the last 14 anyway. but you never know, you might find one day the urge to move on to a customized distro that doesn't rely on debian architecture :P my next step will probably be LFS, but I'm an explorer and I love to learn (knowledge is the best drug after all)16:03
k-josephso then i want to write a script that runs every time some one tries to restart or shutdown the pc, and i want it to be able to copy every thing there and then put it in a folder like on the desktop and alert me immediately after booting so i can select which data was vital, any help would be very helpful since am not much into shel scripting, otherwise thanks cfhowlett  and llutz for the responses16:03
ktosHi16:04
arvutI started off with dsl and some very small distros on old P1 machines in my early teens, then migrated from winxp to ubuntu 8.10 in late 2008, today I use mostly gentoobased distros and winblows 7&8 (I'm just a sucker for gaming, lol..)16:04
ktosI have working ubuntu with swap partion. tell me please, will it boot if I temporary remove swap partition?16:04
topinamburyok16:05
topinamburywhen i change my dns in resolv.conf16:05
johan___Hi! I need help connect to my schools windows server. In older ubuntu, clicked "Connect to server" in Nautilus, and chose "windows server" from the scroll list. That list no longer exist. Is there any other way to connect like that? I need to specify the domain name and share name. Thx =)16:05
topinamburywhat should i do so it gets accepted16:05
cfhowlett!samba| johan___16:05
ubottujohan___: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html16:05
jjavaholicwhat are the pitfalls of upgrading at final beta stage and not final release?16:05
cfhowlettjjavaholic, better question: why upgrade to an in -development , non-released version?16:06
k-josephcfhowlett: am not sure how i can answer your question, i beg for further clarification in what you asked!!!16:07
k-josephthat is <cfhowlett> k-joseph, are you running from a USB or something?16:07
jjavaholici was just interested cause 13.10 has been pretty buggy and poor for me16:07
sudormrf_PRIMEhey guys, just to verify, if I want a script to run at startup I can just add this to the rc.local “exec “/script/path.sh”” and be done, right?16:07
cfhowlettjjavaholic, and 14.04 is in BETA = not ready for prime time.  it releases in a few weeks.  I'd suggest waiting unless you're OK with beta level performance16:08
jjavaholicI just think I might be better than the buggy mess I have just now16:09
cfhowlettk-joseph, critical info should not be getting lost in /tmp on normal shutdowns.  Suggest you carefully shut down your apps before system shutdowns16:09
jjavaholicI have only done it a few times in the past or many once16:10
cfhowlettjjavaholic, you'll make a great beta tester.  go for it.16:10
jjavaholicthat read like sarcasm16:11
k-josephcfhowlett: some times i may not be able to do that, like abrupt power issues etc,  that's why i think a script to do all in the background is necessary16:11
cfhowlettjjavaholic, nope.16:11
cfhowlettk-joseph, ??? fix your power issues first!16:12
k-josephcfhowlett: ok, but can i do what i was thinking about as well16:12
llutzk-joseph: use a cron-script to copy all the stuff from /tmp to /tmpbackupwhatever periodicly if you really want that.16:12
cfhowlettk-joseph, of course.16:13
llutzk-joseph: but as stated, /tmp is the wrong place to store something one need later16:13
cfhowlettk-joseph, THIS ^^^16:13
k-josephllutz: you see some times firefox does it, even when i had set it to put my downloads under the download folder in my home directory16:14
llutzk-joseph: then file a bug-report16:14
TJ-k-joseph: Assuming the PC is on UPS power and is notified when a power shutdown is required, as well as when the user initiates a software shutdown, you can simply add an upstart init script that triggers on "start on runlevel [06]"16:15
k-josephllutz: as i do that, i request to go ahead and do a much faster possible solution, which can give me more knowledge as well, i think i can break down what i need in simple process lines16:16
Guest24469okay, unplugging the computer for 2 mins (actually more like 15) seemed to do the trick.  thank you!  Why does that trick work?16:17
k-josephTJ-: that sounds a bit complex !!!16:17
TJ-k-joseph: About 3 lines in the init script; can't make it less complex16:17
cinixIs anyone familiar with how bluetooth stack automatically connects to some devices?16:18
sudormrf_PRIMEbekks: ok.  so the script works fine.  I put it into init.d and that is cool.  however, when I run it with “service service_name start” it is displaying on the screen.  I would like it to not do that16:18
cinixI'm writing a program to talk to a bluetooth device, but don't know what it's called to automatically connect to even start searching.16:18
cinixI picture it working like this: Hey i'm bluetooth and available, then the computer receives the message and starts a connection. Like when you turn on a keyboard or mouse and it just starts working automatically.16:19
k-joseph1. how can i check that any program or user is requesting for a shutdown or restart inside a script?16:19
gmachine_24greetings earthlings. I set up (I thought) a cron job to run as root - so $sudo crontab -e  .... and it's there with the other root cron job .... how can I tell if they executed? thanks. :-)16:20
k-josephi hope i can make this pending and then cp the content of /tmp wherever i may need16:20
arvutcan I repart my ubuntu with fdisk btw? I got a sabayon liveusb and a minimal gentoo liveusb that I prefer to use for those tasks16:21
arvutas in expanding partitions and shrinking them16:21
ikoniaarvut: why would you not be able to use the ubuntu cd ?16:21
arvutdon't have one and don't have any blank dvds16:22
ikoniaarvut: so what are you actually asking then ?16:22
TJ-k-joseph: "start on runlevel [06]; script sh -c 'cp /source/ /destination/'; end script"16:22
arvutif fdisk works for repartition and shrinking home so I can expand root16:22
arvutand remap /usr and /boot to their own partitions16:22
ikoniaarvut: fdisk will be usable to re-partition ms dos partitioned disks,16:23
arvutyeah, its not a lvm16:23
ikoniano-one said anything about lvm16:23
ikoniawhat are you talking about lvm ?16:23
arvutwell afaik fdisk can't handle lvm16:23
ikoniayou don't partition logical volumes16:24
ikoniawhy would you even consider doing that ???16:24
arvutand the partitions are as you mentioned, on a msdos table16:24
arvutbut would it be safe to resize the partitions with fdisk?16:25
ikoniait's something I'd advise you not to do16:25
arvuthow come?16:25
ikoniamore so as you appear to lack the basic skill to use the tool properly16:25
arvutI've used it for years16:25
ikoniathen why are you asking these obvious questions16:25
arvutbecause I haven't got much experience with ubuntu lately16:26
llutzarvut: why do you ask then? ubuntu partitions are not different than other linux partitions16:26
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ikoniaubuntu is not fsik16:26
cfhowlettarvut, I think the phrase is "then on your head ..."16:26
arvutleft ubuntu for other distros awhile back16:26
ikoniafdisk is the same across all distros16:26
ikoniaso again - if you have years of experiences why are you asking obvious questions and trying to use a tool for something it's not designed to do16:26
arvutk16:26
arvutthats the question I asked16:26
ikoniafdisk / partition tables are exactly the same as on other distros16:26
arvutif it was safe to use fdisk for that task16:26
ikoniait's safe if you know how to use the tool16:26
arvutofcourse16:27
leviworleyyes because all distros use the ext format16:27
ikoniabut as you don't I'd advise you very strongly not to try it16:27
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arvutI've never resized partitions on a running system with fdisk tho. so that is the reason I ask these "obvious questions"16:27
arvuttreat me as a noob, but don't be an arse16:27
ikonialeviworley: partition tables are nothing to do with file systems16:27
ikoniaarvut: I'm not being an arse, you are saying you have years of experience then saying silly things16:28
arvutleviworley: I use reiserfs on some16:28
sliktsshould I expect any problems using 12.04 with an amd gpu and dual screens?16:28
leviworleywell i just jumped in the conversation so sorry16:28
ikoniarepartitioning a disk on a running system is stupid - do not do this16:28
arvutikonia: years of experience with a tool that i haven't used for all its possible potential. i said i had used it for years, not that I have mastered it16:28
TJ-arvut: If the partitions being resized do not contain mounted file-system, you can notify the kernel about a changed PT with partprobe or kpartx, and it will - if possible - re-read the PT (you can check before/after in "/proc/partitions")16:29
ikoniaarvut: yet you seem to not understand the basics like "partitioning lvm" and partitioning a running system16:29
cfhowlettarvut, repartiting on a running system is actually one of the faster ways to fatally break the system16:29
cfhowlett!repartition|arvut,16:29
arvutTJ-: k, so the kernel needs that info, good to know16:29
cfhowlett!partition16:29
ubottuFor help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes l - For partitioning programs see !GParted, or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap16:29
ikoniaso again "does not have the basic experience"16:29
arvutquit it already ikonia16:29
arvutif you're not gonna help then stop bothering me with your trolling16:30
ikoniaarvut: quit what ? advising you strongly not to do this beacuase you lack the basic understanding to use the tool safely ?16:30
arvutignored16:30
cfhowlettikonia, he's got years of experience.  I defer to his judgement. (*)16:30
arvutcfhowlett: I specified that i have years of experience using the tool for some basic tasks. not years of experience with ALL of its potential. which is the reason I'm asking these questions in here16:31
cfhowlettarvut, I'm not arguing.  Do what you must.  Be aware the gparted is the default (and preferred) app  for your task but if you've a better method, go for it.16:32
ikoniatrying to resize a running partition and partition lvm's is not "fdisk basics" its lacking the basic knowledge and thus you should not try to do this16:32
ikoniayou should use a more friendly tool and do it from a livecd16:32
ikonia(or live media)16:33
pikimeisterquick noob question, how can i add shortcuts (custom folders) to Files left pane? (14.04)16:33
arvutthx for the warning, and for not arguing about it. if gparted can do it better, then surely parted (cli version) can do the same tasks, right?16:33
cfhowlettpikimeister, 14.04 support is in #ubuntu+116:33
cfhowlettarvut, I believe so16:34
ikoniaarvut: again parted is more advance than fdisk - so if you are struggling with fdisk basics, you should use the gui tool then look at the logs to see how it ran parted16:34
pikimeistereven if i'm asking for 14.04 i believe the method must be the same for 13.10.16:34
ikoniagparted will log the commands it runs in the parted shell16:34
uthaineed help with lost modeprob.conf file16:34
cfhowlettpikimeister, 14.04 is not officially supported yet so = #ubuntu+116:34
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uthaihow can I recover modeprob.conf file, sound input / output is lost... can see other problems16:36
uthaican = can't16:36
hinv-tips16:38
sudormrf_PRIMEwould someone like to help me out with this inotifywait problem I am having?  it looks like the script I wrote is endlessly looping, even though it shouldn’t be16:38
cfhowletthinv-, what is your ubuntu question?16:38
Seven_Six_Twois there a way to solve "sorry, ubuntu 13.10 has experienced an internal error" every time I log in? I get 3 or 4 of them every single time.16:38
Seven_Six_TwoI get them for gnome-settings-daemon and Xorg16:38
sudormrf_PRIMEhere is the script16:38
sudormrf_PRIMEhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7180267/16:38
sudormrf_PRIMEthe behavior is the same with both rsync and cp16:39
gmachine_24hello again. I need to find all folders and files in my music database that contain "grateful" as in 'grateful dead' (w/o the quotes of course). if the database is at /media/music1 what command do I use? I'm being trying and failing with locate and find16:39
gmachine_24*I've16:40
rypervenchesudormrf_PRIME: Because you have "while true"16:40
Seven_Six_Twogmachine_24, did you use "sudo updatedb" before using locate?16:40
black_13hey is the gtk.org website down16:40
gmachine_24Seven_Six_Two: yes.16:40
sudormrf_PRIMErypervenche: hmm.  so then change to while false?16:40
Seven_Six_Twogmachine_24, locate grateful16:40
rypervenchesudormrf_PRIME: Nope, if you want it to run just once, then just remove the while loop. What are you trying to accomplish?16:41
k1l_black_13: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/gtk.org16:41
gmachine_24Seven_Six_Two: yeah, I did that and got nothing16:41
gmachine_24sorry, I did $locate grateful and got nothing16:41
sudormrf_PRIMErypervenche: I want inotifywait to constantly monitor folder x and if any changes happen to that folder copy that data to folder y16:41
Seven_Six_Twogmachine_24, I just did it on my computer, and got exactly what I was looking for.16:41
sudormrf_PRIMErypervenche: folder y is not part of btsync16:41
gmachine_24Seven_Six_Two: I'll be right over16:41
uthaianyone can assist : lost modprobe.conf file ?16:41
llutzsudormrf_PRIME: tried using incron?16:42
Seven_Six_Twogmachine_24, is it an external drive?16:42
black_13k1l_: i wonder what happend16:42
OerHekssudormrf_PRIME, unless your user name is nick, "/home/nick/inotify_log/inotifywait.log" > /home/$USER/inotify_log/inotifywait.log16:42
gmachine_24Seven_Six_Two: no, but it's not the main drive16:42
sudormrf_PRIMEllutz: I haven’t.  I was reading about it today.  doesn’t incron run things periodically?16:42
k1l_black_13: dont know. ask their admin. but that doesn suit into ubuntu support :)16:42
sudormrf_PRIMEOerHeks: thanks!  the username is nick, but I like the wildcard idea.16:42
JoshuaPWhat is the difference between 'lp' and 'passthrough' with printers?16:42
black_13understood16:42
gmachine_24Seven_Six_Two: by external I thought you meant outside the case16:42
llutzsudormrf_PRIME: no its event driven, :   /media/BTSync IN_CREATE,IN_DELETE,IN_MODIFY" rsync -vr /media/BTSync /media/Mimir_Odin/Plunder"16:43
Seven_Six_Twogmachine_24, does   ls -lR | grep grateful16:43
Seven_Six_Twogmachine_24, return anything?16:43
sudormrf_PRIMEllutz: let me check it out16:43
Seven_Six_Twogmachine_24, I mean usb16:43
sudormrf_PRIMEllutz: that sounds more elegant16:43
Seven_Six_Twogmachine_24, does   ls -lR / | grep grateful16:43
gmachine_24Seven_Six_Two: "I mean usb" - yes, that's what I thought you meant. $ ls -lR | grep grateful also gives me nothing. I am running 13.04 server16:44
llutzsudormrf_PRIME: some nice examples http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-inotify-examples-to-replicate-directories/16:44
sudormrf_PRIMEllutz: will that hold even after reboot?16:44
sudormrf_PRIMEllutz: that was the page I was reading earlier and just the page I was looking for now! :D16:45
llutzsudormrf_PRIME: incron-tables are permanent, yes16:45
sudormrf_PRIMEllutz: good.16:45
sudormrf_PRIMEllutz: let me have a look at those examples again and give it a shot16:45
Seven_Six_Twogmachine_24, sorry, you need the / or you could try    ls -lR /media | grep grateful16:45
Seven_Six_Twogmachine_24, can you cd to a folder with one of your target files and do   ls -l16:46
llutzgmachine_24: find path/ -iname '*grateful*'16:46
sudormrf_PRIMEllutz: whoa.  strange permissions issue with incron.  says my normal user and my root user can’t use incrontab :S16:46
sudormrf_PRIMElel16:46
Seven_Six_Twogmachine_24, copy one of the lines here.16:47
llutzsudormrf_PRIME: yes, you have to add the allowed users to incron.allow16:47
sudormrf_PRIMEllutz: cool.  doing it now16:47
Seven_Six_Twogmachine_24, you are doing ls -l and not ls -1 right?16:48
llutzsudormrf_PRIME: see part "Configuration files" in link above16:48
sudormrf_PRIMEllutz: thanks :)16:48
gmachine_24ok... $find path/ -iname '*grateful*' where I used $find /media/MUSIC1 -iname "grateful" gave me what I needed.16:49
lxuser_hi i'm running ubuntu saucy, and I have a problem with getty instances hogging the cpu. is that a known issue?16:49
gmachine_24Seven_Six_Two: I cut and pasted your command so whatever it was I used16:49
gmachine_24Seven_Six_Two, Ilutz, thanks. I'm good.16:50
Seven_Six_Twogmachine_24, if you have a sec, can you list one of the file names that you found? I am trying to figure out why we are not getting the same results.16:51
planecoolhello16:51
planecoolok so i got to advaced booty optiins in linux16:52
planecooli have 3.11.0-18 generic16:52
planecool3.11.0.-18 recorvy mode16:52
planecooli installed the wrong drivers16:52
planecooland pugred the old ones16:52
bekksplanecool: Which drivers?16:53
planecoolfglrx drivers for atil16:53
planecoolbut16:53
planecoolthey did not owrk16:53
planecooli then found out16:53
planecoolthat the only drivers aviable were the opensource ones16:53
planecooland id like to do a "system restore point"16:53
planecoolor something like that16:53
k1l_planecool: could you please put more information into one line? thank you16:54
bekksThere is no such thing.16:54
sudormrf_PRIMEllutz: that did it! :D16:54
planecoolthats what i thought.16:54
sudormrf_PRIMEthanks a million :)16:54
bekksplanecool: Uninstall the wrong drivers, install the correct drivers, and reboot again.16:54
planecooli don;t have acess to my os16:54
gmachine_24Seven_Six_Two: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7180366/16:54
planecoolim stuckat gnu grub16:54
planecooli have generic and recorvy mode options16:54
planecoollucky generic is booting just fine16:55
Seven_Six_Twoplanecool, do recovery mode, and that will get you to the command prompt16:55
planecoolok.16:55
llutzSeven_Six_Two: grep -i grateful16:55
planecoolim at a black screen right now16:55
lxuser_hi i'm running ubuntu saucy, and I have a problem with getty instances hogging the cpu. is that a known issue?16:56
planecoolgeneruc dies bit wirj16:56
Seven_Six_Twollutz, sorry? I was not asking for help16:56
planecooltrying recorvy mode16:56
Vpexset weechat.look.prefix_join "▬▬▶"16:56
johan___I have added a network in nautilus, but when i try to click on the server it says only root can mount it. How do i fix that? I tried gksudo nautilus but then the network doesnt show up!16:56
planecoolis it f12 that gets u to those options?16:57
llutzSeven_Six_Two: no offense, i just answered your question " I am trying to figure out why we are not getting the same results."16:57
planecooli need to boot in recorvy mode16:57
bekksplanecool: you can boot into whatever mode is working.16:57
planecoolhow do i get to gnu grub16:57
planecoolall they different versions16:57
planecoolf12?16:58
bekksplanecool: Stop pressing enter all the time.16:58
planecoolsorry16:58
iuzashift16:58
bekksplanecool: you are at the grub menu when you can see the entries for recovery mode, generic, etc.16:58
gmachine_24Seven_Six_Two: you got my refer to pastebin, correct?16:58
planecoolhow do i get there16:58
planecooli was jsut there16:58
bekks!grub2 | planecool16:59
ubottuplanecool: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub216:59
planecoolbrb googling16:59
bekksplanecool: dont have to google. ;)16:59
planecooli know16:59
Seven_Six_Twogmachine_24, no, I didn't get anything16:59
planecoolim 16 and decided to main linux16:59
Seven_Six_Twogmachine_24, did you paste a pastebin url here?16:59
bekksplanecool: whatever that sentence means. All you have to do is to follow the links given.17:00
gmachine_24Seven_Six_Two: ok here it is again http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7180366/ I did paste it b4 no big deal17:00
michagogo|cloudUm, I just clicked the "Upgrade..." button in an old raring VM17:00
planecoolahift or esc17:00
michagogo|cloudThe window that opened after I entered my password is telling me this:17:00
michagogo|cloudWelcome to Ubuntu 'Saucy Salamander' development release17:01
michagogo|cloudAnd then in italics: This is still a BETA release. Do not install it on production machines.17:01
k1l_michagogo|cloud: was this installed/updated when it was in development?17:01
michagogo|cloudFull text: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7180392/17:02
michagogo|cloudk1l_: I'm pretty sure the answer is no17:02
Seven_Six_Twomichagogo|cloud, install cd?17:02
michagogo|cloudSeven_Six_Two: Hmm?17:02
k1l_michagogo|cloud: run a "sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" that will bring you the latest 13.10 updates17:02
michagogo|cloudk1l_: Erm, I'm on raring17:02
michagogo|cloudNot Saucy17:02
sudormrf_PRIMEis modifying the grub.cfg still safe to do?  I am looking at this: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/how-to-disable-grub-2-menu-even-after-server-crash-796562/17:02
sudormrf_PRIMEthat was posted in 201017:02
michagogo|cloudI'm trying to upgrade to Saucy17:02
sudormrf_PRIMEat the top of grub.cfg it says not to edit the file17:03
k1l_michagogo|cloud: how did you try to upgrade?17:03
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michagogo|cloudk1l_: update-manager -d, clicked "Upgrade..." when told that my release was no longer getting updates17:03
michagogo|cloudIt asked for my password, and then gave me http://paste.ubuntu.com/7180392/17:03
k1l_michagogo|cloud: there you go. please think about what the "-d" is17:03
sudormrf_PRIMEor is there a better way to accomplish what that guy does in that thread?17:03
Seven_Six_Twomichagogo|cloud, -d is to force for dev releases.17:04
michagogo|cloudk1l_: Hmm? I don't know what that is17:04
michagogo|cloudI just followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SaucyUpgrades17:04
michagogo|cloudAh.17:04
llutzsudormrf_PRIME: grub.cfg will be overwritten on every "update-grub", look at /etc/grub.d/00_header17:04
michagogo|cloudSo what should I do to upgrade to Saucy?17:04
k1l_michagogo|cloud: rule number one: dont run commands you dont know. "-d" is for development release.17:04
sudormrf_PRIMEllutz: yeah.  would this work “GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=N” in /etc/default/grub?17:04
sudormrf_PRIMEwhere n is time17:04
k1l_michagogo|cloud: so you just didnt found a bug. you just found that it works like it should17:04
michagogo|cloudk1l_: Well, I'm sure countless people have made the same mistake, following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SaucyUpgrades17:05
michagogo|cloudSo what's the correct way to upgrade?17:05
k1l_michagogo|cloud: all without the "-d"17:05
michagogo|cloudOh, just looked at update-manager --help17:05
michagogo|cloudLooks like -c does what I'm looking for?17:05
llutzsudormrf_PRIME: you have to check the /etc/grub.d/* files if that VAR would be read and used somewhere, i doubt it will be by default17:06
k1l_michagogo|cloud: just remove the "-d" that is all17:06
sudormrf_PRIMEllutz: checking.  thanks :)17:06
michagogo|cloudAh, okay17:06
michagogo|cloudAh, there we go, that looks like the normal release notes17:06
sudormrf_PRIMEllutz: looks like it is there17:07
ShabaDabaDooHowdy folks... I have a question about installing ubuntu... what are the odds it will recognize my gtx680 and use it automatically?17:08
michagogo|cloudSomeone should really fix https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SaucyUpgrades...17:08
Seven_Six_TwoShabaDabaDoo, is that nvidia?17:08
ShabaDabaDooyes17:08
llutzsudormrf_PRIME: ah    /etc/grub.d/00_header:  set timeout=${GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT:--1}        so it should work17:08
sudormrf_PRIMEllutz: sweet.  that sorts me out for the day :D17:08
sudormrf_PRIMEllutz: thanks again.17:09
Seven_Six_TwoShabaDabaDoo, it's likely you will have no trouble at all.17:09
ShabaDabaDooThanks 76217:09
lxuser_hi. i'm running ubuntu saucy/13.10, and I have a problem with getty instances hogging the cpu. cmdline args are `/sbin/getty -8 38400 tty<num>`.  also,  running ltrace -p shows that they are looping on `__ctype_b_loc() = <some address>; read(0, "", 1) = 0`. any fix?17:10
anonynimityhello.17:12
cfhowlettanonynimnity, greetings.  what is your ubuntu question?17:12
jeffrey_f!ask|anonynimity17:14
ubottuanonynimity: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience17:14
anonynimityI'm having issues with ubuntu if I run curl or ls I get errors saying is located in /usr/bin/ls17:15
bhargavhi17:15
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anonynimityand /usr/bin/curl respectively17:15
michagogo|cloudHm. Am I missing something? I don't see a "yes" button. http://i.imgur.com/U1ha4na.png17:16
arvutdoes ubuntu need the linux-headers that are stored in /usr/src or can I remove those? (~600M)17:16
cfhowlett!saucy17:16
k1l_michagogo|cloud: hold the alt-key and push the window upwards17:16
ubottuUbuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.10 - Read the release notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseNotes17:16
Guest92184could u explain clearly........@michagogo17:16
lxuser_hi. is it normal to be running both `ngetty 1 2 3 4 5 6` and `/sbin/getty -8 38400 tty<num>`? I'm wondering is this is causing my issue.17:16
michagogo|cloudk1l_: thanks17:16
jeffrey_fmichagogo|cloud: Yes, some windows I've noticed are too big for the screen.  Probably should be put in as a bug, no?17:17
nashantHey, does nyone know if it's possible to create a USB stick with multiple partitions (including an EFI one), and make a multi-installer from it?17:17
k1l_arvut: dont remove them manually. remove the linux-headers-..... packages. you only need the ones matching your intsalled kernels17:17
anonynimitymichagogo|cloud it looks like your yes button is off the page.17:17
michagogo|cloudanonynimity: It was. k1l_ solved the problem.17:17
arvutk1l_: k, so with apt-get or aptitude then?17:17
dfk12Does anyone know where the categories get assigned from /usr/local/share/applications/<program>.desktop into menu items. example: python.desktop has categories=Development; where does that turn into a "Programming" menu item.17:18
k1l_arvut: yes, i would recommend apt-get17:18
dfk12and by whom17:18
arvutk1l_: what's the recommended syntax for removing them with apt-get then?17:18
arvutand why do you recommend apt-get before aptitude?17:19
k1l_arvut: apt-get remove packagename17:19
Guest92184can anyone help me i have a problem with my skype app, during the call, the app gets exist automatically17:19
k1l_arvut: aptitude had problems with multiarch17:19
arvutoh17:19
llutzdfk12: does the .desktop file have a "Categories=foo" entry?17:20
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llutzk1l_: shouldn't those multiarch problems been fixed since a while?17:21
arvutalso, is there a way to disable global menu and how do I move the close/minimize/maximize buttons to the other side of the window (like it used to be pre-11.04)?17:21
dfk12llutz: yes, but i want to know who makes this categorizations and for what? example firefox.desktop has Categories=GNOME;GTK;Network;WebBrowser;17:21
k1l_arvut: see unity-tweak-tool17:21
ahmadgbgHi, im using Ubuntu server and i have setup my web server with apache, webmin and virtualmin. What is the best way to get a email like info@domain.com to send and recieve?17:22
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llutzdfk12: who = i'd guess the package-maintainer. for what=....idk17:22
semaj81Well.. I'm trying to dual boot.. Got Windows 8.1 x64 installed, and Ubuntu installer says NO OS found and wants to erase the entire disk...17:23
dfk12llutz: mystery intensifies...17:23
llutzdfk12: sry can't help, i misread your question17:23
cfhowlett!server|ahmadgbg, see the server channel17:23
ubottuahmadgbg, see the server channel: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server17:24
Beldar!uefi | semaj8117:24
ubottusemaj81: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI17:24
semaj81I read through that.. but I'll keep trying! :-) Never give up! :-)17:24
ahmadgbgubottu: thanks17:24
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)17:24
Beldarsemaj81, More info on these installs. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214729517:24
semaj81Thanks I'll check it out.. :-)17:25
TJ-dfk12: http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apa.html17:29
dfk12TJ-: wauw, thats cancer. I heard someone said freedesktop.org did that. but wauw17:30
dfk12TJ-: thanks for the link though17:30
nashantHey, does nyone know if it's possible to create a USB stick with multiple partitions (including an EFI one), and make a multi-installer from it?17:34
Beldarnashant, there are multirom loaders, what is the efi issue here?17:35
Beldarmulti-iso really17:36
arvutk1l_: thx17:36
arvutk1l_: what happens if I remove the kernels manually from /usr/src btw? is it something that goes boom?17:39
lxuser_hi. i'm running ubuntu saucy/13.10, and I have a problem with getty instances hogging the cpu. cmdline args are `/sbin/getty -8 38400 tty<num>`.  also,  running ltrace -p shows that they are looping on `__ctype_b_loc() = <some address>; read(0, "", 1) = 0`. any fix?17:39
k1l_arvut: dont do stuff around the package system unless you know what and why you are doing that.17:39
k1l_arvut: it is very easy with the package system, so stick to that17:39
jotaxpeHola, tengo ubuntu 12.04, me gustaria saber si se puede configurar el indicador de red , para poder ver además el porcentaje de señal de cada red17:40
arvutwell, from compiling gentoo and copying kernels from that dir to /boot, I really can't see why it would be dangerous. so if you could explain why then I'd be very happy =)17:40
arvutis there a cd version of a stripped down ubuntu available for download btw? or just dvd sized iso's?17:43
* Johnny_Linux goes boom17:43
llutz!mini | arvut17:43
ubottuarvut: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD17:43
arvutI just need a environment with ubuntufriendly tools for resizing / and /home17:44
arvutand gparted cd is just way too slow to download (over 1h17:44
arvut)17:44
iuzaarvut: lubuntu is just 670 mb17:44
llutzarvut: http://gparted.org/livecd.php17:44
llutzarvut: ups, too slow i was17:45
arvut=)17:45
Doctor_N1ckI am having some seriously confounding samba issues17:45
arvutllutz: dvorak is an amazing layout :P17:45
Doctor_N1ckI have two pcs, one server running ubuntu, and another running windows 7.17:45
lxuser_hi. is it normal to be running both `ngetty 1 2 3 4 5 6` and `/sbin/getty -8 38400 tty<num>`? I'm wondering is this is causing my issue.17:46
Doctor_N1ckMy write speeds from the win computer to the samba share are 116MB/s, but my read speeds are 16MB/s17:46
Doctor_N1ckand I've tried all the smb.conf tweaks that are supposed to help, strict allocate, TCP_NODELAY, read raw, etc17:47
arvutDoctor_N1ck: maybe its a QoS issue?17:48
Doctor_N1ckQuality of Service?17:49
arvutyeah17:49
Doctor_N1ckhow so?17:49
Doctor_N1ckI've done a iperf test, i've gotten 1Gb/s both ways17:49
siriusnovahi guys17:50
Doctor_N1ckand I benched the Raid array speeds, its all working fine there17:50
arvutwell, read should be faster, shouldn't it? and since its across a network (right?) then there might be something thats limiting it17:50
siriusnovaanyone here try to install ubuntu 13.10 on a system with ONLY an amd gpu/cpu combo17:50
arvutoh17:50
siriusnovaim trying to and it boots to a black screen and X fails so I cant install it :(17:50
siriusnovawith nomodeset17:50
shivyhi, i have a pulseaudio problems, where i can get help for this topic17:50
siriusnovaany ideas? :(17:50
arvutDoctor_N1ck: no idea then, i haven't used samba that much. gl with it17:51
p014kSomething is wrong with my ssh server. I haven't changed any settings and when I try to login remotely, it says the password is incorrect. I went to the server and logged off of that user and logged back in using the password I've always used and it worked. I checked my keymap and it's fine, I also restarted the ssh server and I cleared my known_hosts file on my laptop. Any ideas?17:51
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jeffrey_fshivy: What version are you running????17:52
cfhowlettarvut, you seem to have an compulsion to experiment with critical components.  I suggest you indulge this compulsion.  Install virtualbox.  Install a *buntu on Vbox and break away.  Then you will truly KNOW what happens when you do "X".17:53
shivyIm running 1.1 version of pulseaudio on ubuntustudio 12.0417:53
bernd_hi17:54
shivyI dont se the actual audio level, and i cant record sound from monitor of device17:54
jeffrey_fshivy: is that 12.04 LTS??17:56
shivyyes it is 12.04 LTS17:56
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unopaste`Vpex you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted17:56
shivyi trying reinstall the pulseaudio and gstreamer, but it did not help. I can listen sound from my soundcard normally, but the problem is to capture the sound from monitor of soundcard and see the audio level. It did happen after last system update.17:58
jeffrey_fshivy: see if this helps   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191544318:02
shivythank you i'll try it18:03
jeffrey_fshivy: I had issues around that time.  The regular relase (13.10) have fixed many other issues, including that one.18:04
o------hi18:08
jeffrey_f!ask|o------18:08
ubottuo------: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:08
o------how do i turn off password tin ubuntu18:08
ReV-clear18:09
ReV-oops18:09
ReV-mint18:09
sadpuppyreset18:09
jeffrey_fo------: you want to automatically log in?18:09
o------i just hate putting it in the install and when the screen goes off18:10
Beldaro------, The brightness/lock gui has a on off for that.18:11
o------im new to ubuntu18:11
jeffrey_fo------: Asking for the password for admin related tasks is one of the security levels Ubuntu has.  Meaning, without it, it is plausible that stuff could run (ie virus??) without your consent (MS Windows???).18:13
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jeffrey_fo------: You can do it if you want, just be advised that you open your system to security risks.  A password is a small inconvenience18:15
se_bhello, someone know how to setup the e372 hspa+ modem?18:16
afthvI am connecting to an public wifi network, and internet speed is very slow (by very slow I mean it takes a very long time to open google). But when i try to play an online multiplayer game the internet is fine (ping: 60ms). And I have dual boot with windows 7 - on windows internet speed is fine. Is there any fix for this? (i use wifi antenna - "AirLive WL1700USB"). Thanks for any help.18:17
Beldarse_b, Find what the e372 is called by running lsusb in the terminal, general advice here is get one that plugs and works, they are cheap.18:19
Left_Turn!linux18:21
ubottuLinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as a kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux18:21
o------ok i found it thank you ever munch here where my setting   turn screen off   ( NEVER )    LOCK  ( turned off )   require  my password  when waking up  turned  OFF   are my setting now18:22
Meerkatmy sound is suddenly messed up. Everyone sounds like r2d2 in mumble. Using xubuntu 13.10.18:22
se_bi did a search on google but i found no guide.. output from lsusb is Bus 002 Device 003: ID 12d1:1446 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E1552/E1800/E173 (HSPA modem)18:22
Uncopyablehi folks. Does anyone know how to change cursor size? It doesn't work in "Mouse and Touchpad>Theme" for me18:23
shivyOk i solved the problem with no audio level in pulseaudio. I try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/324703/pulseaudio-not-monitoring-any-audio-output-i-e-projectm-cannot-work-properly18:24
shivyThanks18:24
javahornHello18:25
arvutjust one more quick question, when i autoremoved linux-headers-3.2.0-5*, it also removed a -60 image (which is the currently used one according to uname -r).. have I now done something terribly wrong or was apt-get just removing the junk that was left behind when ubuntu updated to latest kernel?18:25
arvutit removed -33 and up18:25
ntz_i have 2 different physical servers both with virtualmin installed. server1 has DNS for domain.tld and managed to make it point to server2 for subdomain.domain.tld (external IP of server2) but now i want to have sub.subdomain.domain.tld public_html files also being on server2. how does one go for something like that?18:25
ntz_not an alias18:25
llutzarvut: dpkg -l linux-image-$(uname -r)18:26
arvutah, another number at the end of it18:26
arvut.91 =)18:26
arvutwhat does pae stand for btw?18:27
llutzarvut: more important the 2 chars at beginning of the line18:27
llutz!pae18:27
ubottuTo use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info18:27
arvutoh, so its a 64bit function then18:27
arvuta USE-flag?18:27
Beldarse_b, I see one ubuntu forum thread is all, this device is supposed to install what is needed when plugged in, I doubt it will do it in linux, I see no linux links on the web, or there web site.18:27
Beldartheir*18:28
llutzarvut: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension18:28
arvutaha18:28
arvutbut its built into the kernel as a module, right?18:28
llutzarvut: not a module, kernel-function18:29
arvutk18:29
ntz_i have 2 different physical servers both with virtualmin installed. server1 has DNS for domain.tld and managed to make it point to server2 for subdomain.domain.tld (external IP of server2) but now i want to have sub.subdomain.domain.tld public_html files also being on server2. how does one go for something like that?18:30
javahornNeed guidance for 64 bit workstation18:31
afthv(tl;dr wireless internet very slow on linux, while on widnows (dual-boot) its fine) I am connecting to an public wifi network, and internet speed is very slow (by very slow I mean it takes a very long time to open google). But when i try to play an online multiplayer game the internet is fine (ping: 60ms). And I have dual boot with windows 7 - on windows internet speed is fine. Is there any fix for this? (i use wifi antenna - "AirLive 18:35
xar-!ask | javahorn18:38
ubottujavahorn: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:38
o------you kinda haft to explain to know what going on dont you18:39
javahornThanks xar-18:40
javahorni have a 32 bit machine18:40
javahornbut have to run 64 bit application18:41
javahornhow i can setup virtual 64 bit machine(hosted kind of)18:41
guest83112I'm designing a webpage using LibreOffice Draw HTML designer.   When I add a control --> Label Field, to add text to my webpage, the text label won't show in the browser when i test the html file.  I checked the html code and libreoffice isn't outputting the html code for the label text.   I can't get any label text to show on my webpage.18:41
llutzjavahorn: virtualbox can do that18:41
xar-javahorn: /join #vbox18:42
javahornthanks llutz , which virtual box?18:42
javahornthanks xar- , any further idea?18:42
llutz!info virtualbox18:42
ubottuvirtualbox (source: virtualbox): x86 virtualization solution - base binaries. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 4.2.16-dfsg-3 (saucy), package size 13831 kB, installed size 50333 kB18:42
guest83112I'm using LibreOffice 4.1.3.2 in Lubuntu 13.10  (downloaded libreoffice from the ubuntu repo with apt-get)  but this Draw --> Controls --> Label Field isn't working.18:43
guest83112I believe it's a bug in libreoffice draw html designer18:44
opticnervhello everyone !18:45
llutzguest83112: you could ask in #libreoffice      or  #libreoffice-dev18:45
jeffrey_fguest83112: join #libreoffice18:45
SuperLagIf you're using a backup service, like Crashplan... should you leave compression enabled, or will disabling it make for better file integrity? (doesn't compression occasionally cause file corruption?)18:47
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opticnervhey guys I intalled Lampp I'm trying to edit the lampp-httpd.conf file but it's  not letting me I tried changing the permissions but it wont let me18:49
llutz!lampp | opticnerv18:49
llutz!lamp | opticnerv18:50
ubottuopticnerv: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.18:50
opticnerv!xampp18:50
jeffrey_fSuperLag: Never had an issue with file corruption18:50
ubottuWe do not support XAMPP installs here. Please use the LAMP stack that is in our repositories; see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP for more information.18:50
Netyhi18:51
opticnervllutz thanks18:51
OerHeksopticnerv, how did you try to edit that file?18:51
opticnervOerHeks I used ge edit18:52
OerHeksopticnerv, gksudo gedit /path/to/lampp-httpd.conf18:55
chachanguys, I have a ViritualBox machine that I'm using to code a PHP app. Both are ubuntu and I'm having this situation: I'm sharing through NFS a folder where is my code using a host-only interface. I mounted a bind point from my workspace to /export/workspace in the server. And I mounted that exported directory in my home directory on the client, and then I'm mounting a bind directory to link it to the apache public directory18:56
rysiek|plohai18:56
rysiek|pljust a short question, google is of not much use -- does the toram bootparam work for ubuntu 13.10?18:57
chachanThe problem is that is taking a while to applies the modifications I do through my IDE18:57
rysiek|plit *seems* it should, but just tried it and it appears not to.18:57
chachanany idea?, I'm thinking about adding sync option to my bind mounting points but I'm not sure18:58
Flannelchachan: So, your PHP file changes are taking a while to show up in the web browser?18:59
rysiek|plwelp, nevermind, the magic option was "toram", not "toram=yes"18:59
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chachanFlannel, not in the browser but in the file system18:59
gaborhi19:03
gaboris there anybody here?19:04
lmnsqshrhi gabor19:04
lmnsqshrif you have a question, just ask19:05
A3D_DamirI think that ubuntu needs to be more focused on managing other devices connected on kubuntu like phone, tablet , smart tv and stream content from kubuntu on smart TV will be great19:13
afthv(tl;dr wireless internet very slow on linux, while on widnows (dual-boot) its fine) I am connecting to an public wifi network, and internet speed is very slow (by very slow I mean it takes a very long time to open google). But when i try to play an online multiplayer game the internet is fine (ping: 60ms). And I have dual boot with windows 7 - on windows internet speed is fine. Is there any fix for this? (i use wifi antenna - "AirLive 19:15
KornKagehi i have a 1.7ghz 512mb penitum 4 sysem and i want to live boot usb a distro just so i can copy some files from a hdd to another19:15
KornKagewhich live usb should i choose? i have tried ubuntu 13 tryout from usb but it was soooo slow i couldnt even do anything because the system hardly rensponded19:16
llutzKornKage: use grml, systemrescuecd or whatever you want19:19
KornKagethx19:19
zCoderhi19:19
zCoderIm tryin to install device manager for mint but having trouble. After doing "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:noobslab/mint" and then "sudo apt-get update"  I get this during the udpate "W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ 404  Not Found" and "sudo apt-get install mintdrivers" does nothing.  Any idea why the fetch is failing or any idea s to what else i can do ?19:19
zCoderIf any one knows, please help me19:21
NetyI'm trying to configure my vpn but I'm kinda stuck. I followd the guide to the point where one has to click on a "import" button that clear not exists. The key and everything else is in the .ovpn file but networkmanager demands a crt and key file.  How do I ?make those files out of the ovpn or how to configure it to work?19:22
Netysee here for the guide https://airvpn.org/topic/116-ubuntulinux-how-to-use-networkmanager-for-airvpn/19:22
K4nedaGreetings from Venice (Italy)19:25
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jhutchins!mint19:28
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org19:28
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cheoskyHi19:31
streulmahi19:32
streulmaMy bluetooth is not working on Ubuntu 13.10, I have an Atheros AR9656 or AR9565 I think19:32
maharshiI am not able to creat wifi hotspot on my laptop ubuntu 13.1019:32
cheoskyHI, I don't know if someone can help me with a problem in my ubuntu install19:35
Netysudo service openvpn stop19:36
cheoskyI have an old PC with an onboard Graphic card19:36
Netydarn wrong terminal19:36
cheoskyand when I try to install ubuntu, it doesn't work when the installation enters in the graphics mode19:36
cheoskythere are a lot of colour lines in the screen19:37
cheoskythe card is a via chrome HC IGP19:37
o------hi19:37
cheoskyIt does the same when I run other linux based live CD's, like "clonezilla"19:38
o------i need help please19:38
fanzeyiHi, is there any nice tutorial for re-compiling kernel module in ubuntu? thank you =)19:38
A3D_Damirit will be nice if we can before login into ubuntu to get option which graphic to use and which driver  SO IF USER GETS  BLACK SCREEN HE HAVE OPTION WITH EMERGENCY SHOURCUT KEYS TO LOG OUT AND LOGIN WITH OTHER DRIVERS :)19:39
mrmaharshiI am not able to create wifi hot spot on my laptop dell. ubuntu 13.1019:39
A3D_DamirIF THERE ARE IN EACH APP  DESCRIPTION HOW TO USE IT OR JUST HOW TO INSTALL IT IF IS DPKG  THERE WILL BE LESS QUESTIONS19:41
llutzA3D_Damir: drop caps pls19:41
omar__Hi all.19:42
omar__I am trying to start gpaste from the Gnome Tweak Tool, but for some reason Tweak Tool does not show an extensions section. Why would that be? :/19:43
angelicaI'm having a problem when I login that I'm just returning to the login screen.  The odd thing is the guest session will login fine but not the primary account19:43
angelicaoh yeah, I'm using 14.04... is there another channel for that?19:44
A3D_Damirohh sorry I was in running19:44
llutzangelica: #ununtu+119:44
llutzangelica: #ubuntu+119:44
llutzA3D_Damir: besides this is offtopic here: most apps come with documentation/man-pages, but users tend to ignore that, because reading docu is uncool.19:45
o------in my UBUNTU ICON where you all search for FILES under that it says RECENT FILES and DOWNLOADS it shows files underneath   them  both      RECENT FILES   and   DOWNLOADS how do i clear them19:46
A3D_Damirany help i hit update today and there I get in virtualbox19:47
A3D_DamirFailed to create the VirtualBox COM object.19:47
A3D_DamirThe application will now terminate.19:47
A3D_DamirStart tag expected, '<' not found.19:47
A3D_Damirhmmm try to remove , delete folder and again install19:47
A3D_Damirbut again the same19:47
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o------how do i get rid of the files showing UNDERNEATH the RECENT  FILES and what shows up underneath the  DOWNLOADS19:49
o------in the search     UBUNTU  sysmble   looking icon on the desktop19:50
Spike1996I am euphoric I where a fedora19:51
Spike1996as I Linux19:51
o------do you about ubuntu19:52
o------spike19:52
Spike1996when im butter19:52
Spike1996ya19:52
o------how do i get rid of the files underneath the RECENT FILE and the DOWNLOADS files in the UBUNTU  looking icon19:54
Spike1996bye gona go play touhou on my linux19:54
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Netyis there no nm-system-settings in 13.10?19:55
IzayaQuestion: for some reason, my connection seems to run slower on Ubuntu than in Windows 7 - is there a way to resolve this issue and/or at least test it?19:55
ShabaDabaDooHey Izaya, how are you testing your connection?19:56
ShabaDabaDooor are you just going off the seat of the pants page load feel of it?19:56
IzayaI haven't as of yet, I just notice that my Dropbox connection seems to run slower19:56
Izayathat.19:56
IzayaI'm just kind of going by the "sense" of the connection speed. For example, my Dropbox connection upload/download rate seems to be much slower than the normal19:57
A3D_DamirIzaya .speedtest.net19:57
Netyah, nm-system-settings has been replaced by networkmanager.conf19:57
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oktI lost power to a machine, and how grub can't seem to get the os to boot. It's an EFI based install. When I get a chroot up and running on the live cd how can I "reinstall" grub for the lvm partition??19:57
A3D_DamirIzaya you try to use firefox its much faster then chrome and takes lower resurses19:58
IzayaA3D_Damir I'll give it a whirl. I always thought Chrome was faster?19:58
ShabaDabaDoonot always...19:58
Izayaand Dropbox is actually a program running in the background.19:59
Izayais it possible that, since Ubuntu One is constantly running, it's eating up some of my upload/download rate?19:59
ShabaDabaDoohas anyone played with an nvidia 6-series, and qhd-over-hdmi with ubuntu?19:59
FoxhoundzI installed ffmpeg using sudo apt-get install ffmpeg20:00
Izayaunfortunately I have not ShabaDabaDoo20:00
Foxhoundzbut it doesn't seem to convert mp3s20:00
Foxhoundzis there a ppa that has compiled ffmpegs with liblame enabled?20:00
Foxhoundzcompiling from source sounds scary to me20:00
angelicaanyone able to help me with a login issue?20:01
A3D_DamirIzaya you can test that if you change in chrome settings dont allow apps to run in background when is chrome off  and then use system monitor to check RAM try firefox 10 youtube pages and then try with chrome20:01
Izayaupload speed 2 mbps, download speed 0.86 mbps20:02
Izayain chrome20:02
A3D_Damirangelica you just  try to shutdown laptop and then turn it ON when you get login screen try to find any other option before typing pass to change UNITY , docky   display20:03
angelicaA3D_Damir, I've rebooted multiple times.20:04
ShabaDabaDoowhen trying to add a custom resolution to x with xrandr, I use the port designation shown in the properties output, right?20:05
angelicaA3D_Damir, not sure what "change UNITY , docky   display" means though20:05
IzayaChrome was a lot faster20:07
Izayadownload speed on Firefox 0.74 mbps20:07
Izayawhen I turned off the Ubuntu One cloud syncing I got up to 1 mbps download speed20:07
A3D_Damirangelica it just means what will be your display desktop settings or you just try to login like guest if that wont help just reinstall system will help you fast and quick20:07
Beldarthe browser should have nothing to do with download speeds20:07
Izayaoddly Beldar, they gave starkly different rates.20:08
Izayaa whole 120 kbps or more20:08
Beldarin your tests yes, but that is faulty research is all.20:08
A3D_DamirIzaya chrome may be faster but im saying its taking more resurses then firefox you can try use one then another for week20:08
Izayagotcha A3D_Damir, and I know what you mean Beldar. A connection is a connection is a connection.20:09
Beldar;)20:09
A3D_Damirbaldar thumbs UP20:09
o------how do i get rid of the files underneath the RECENT FILES and DOWNLOADS in the search the    UBUNTU     looking like icon on your desktop            i talking about after you click on it  i new to UBUNTU and thank you20:09
IzayaI'm going to be a Comp Sci / Information Tech student this fall... and I know enough to know what you mean Beldar. :-P I just don't want to believe it I guess hahaha20:09
omar_Hi all.20:09
angelicaA3D_Damir, I can login as guest20:09
Izayahi omar_20:10
BeldarIzaya, Heh, yeah, the academic environment drills it in.20:11
o------hi20:11
A3D_Damirangelica the fast way is just to reinstall the system if its hard for you to find solution,20:11
omar_I am using Ubuntu 13.10 in the default Gnome interface, but the battery icon seems empty (i.e no battery illustration, but reveals battery status when clicked). How do fix that?20:11
o------is this room for help20:11
IzayaWell, and it's logical in terms of physical science. The speed of light through fiber etc etc.20:11
Izayaor conduction through cable.20:12
Izayahowever you want to word it :-P20:12
guntberto------: for Ubuntu, yes20:12
o------i been trying to ask somthing i dont think you all saw it20:12
hkoWhere do I change whats starting on startup?20:12
Mocquehi, i need help20:13
angelicaA3D_Damir, was helped by trism in main channel.  Turns out ~/.Xauthority being owned by root creates those symptoms.  A quick delete of that file fixes it20:13
Izayahko: system settings?20:13
Izayathen go to Details20:13
o------in my UBUNTU ICON where you all search for FILES under that it says RECENT FILES and DOWNLOADS it shows files underneath   them  both      RECENT FILES   and   DOWNLOADS how do i clear them20:13
BeldarMocque, State the issues to the channel for help.20:13
Izaya(I think)20:13
Mocquewhen i entered wget command in terminal in fedora 13, it shown command not found...20:14
BeldarMocque, You want #fedora this is ubuntu20:14
MocqueYet still related to linux20:14
Mocque#fedora seems ghost town20:14
angelica* +1 channel I meant20:14
BeldarMocque, This is ubuntu support is all there is ##linux20:14
guntbert!repeat | o------ (no need for the CAPS)20:15
ubottuo------ (no need for the CAPS): Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/20:15
MocqueHhmmm.. is this case in your knowledge? i really need to solve this.20:15
OerHekso------, system settings > privacy > recent items20:15
A3D_Damirthe google is nice friend for questions20:15
BeldarMocque, Would not matter I can't give help on fedora per channel norms.20:16
o------some times used for   hi  lighting    sorry about that20:16
o------caps20:16
xar-Mocque: sudo updatedb; locate wget;20:17
Beldarheh easy find, install wget, https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/7821/bash-wget-command-not-found-what-do-i-do/20:17
OerHeksyummie20:17
Beldarlol, yeah20:18
tlp_I have Ubuntu12.04 and inside VM with windoes. do you know whether it is possible to recover files from the virtual machine?20:18
ShabaDabaDooshould be able to mount a livedisk iso and boot the machine from that i would think20:19
Beldartlp_, You can at the least boot a live ISO in the vm and get in, what is the actual problem?20:19
o------oerheks thank you come caps i use like a     hi lighted marker or for understanding where i at sorry20:21
fhassanAny chance of Trusty team doing the work of 18 days in 9, and release it on April 8 (end-data of Windows XP support) and then advertising the heck out of it? has this topic been discussed at all?20:21
o------i goti it20:21
fhassan*end-date20:22
tlp_I cannot boot but I can use the tty on recovery mode (  i am not experienced ) so I try to recover the documents inside the VM20:22
streulmatlp_ try to boot from a live dvd20:22
Beldarfhassan, Maybe in #ubuntu-offtopic this is support20:23
streulmahello, my Bluetooth isn't working at all :( I have an Atheros AR9565 with wireless and co bluetooth, I enabled the option co with modprobe but it didn't work20:23
tlp_i did boot with the boot-repair but it did not work. It said sth like (the system is on EFI mode but not any EFI system was detected.)20:23
fhassan@Beldar, thanks20:24
MidnightDevilhi20:25
MidnightDevilI'm using the latest 14.04, can I still install gnome shell? Or can I add some plugins to the current gnome 3.10 ?20:26
junknounif I am sshd into my ubuntu computer... would it be possible to run a command that would launch something on my screen that is running20:26
BeldarMidnightDevil, #ubuntu+1 is the 14.04 channel.20:26
junknounI ask because I was laying in bed and was curious if I could run google-chrome http://pandora.com and start pandora without getting off my ass :P20:27
MidnightDevilThanks Beldar20:27
junknounso like you can switch consoles with ctrl-alt-f1 etc.... ctrl alt f7 brings up desktop.... is it possible to run a command to that desktop through one of the other consoles?20:28
drflist20:28
Anon4-6hi everybody !20:29
streulmaany toughts for AR9565 ?20:30
streulmadoes someone ping a light in his head ?20:30
chachanguys, I'm sharing a folder through NFS between my PC and a virtualbox instance through a host-only interface. The problem is that when I change a file in the server, this change is not being applied in the client, I need to "touch" the file so I can see the change, any idea?20:31
Anon4-6Hello ! I've got a question: How to do 3d modelisation on ubuntu 13.10 ? (Does sketchup is successfully fonctionnally ?)20:32
guest83112chachan:  Do you have to "sudo touch" the file? If so, sounds like the regular user doesn't have permission to write to the shared folder.20:37
chachanguest83112, without soud20:37
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chachanguest83112, without sudo*20:37
trismjunknoun: usually works fine if you set the right DISPLAY, such as: DISPLAY=:0 google-chrome http://pandora.com;20:38
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ice9windows corner looks smooth on an old 14 monitor but on the HD laptop screen it's not20:41
guest83112chachan:  If all else fails, open nautilus as root for the shared folder:  gksudo nautilus20:44
chachanguest83112, what's the point about that?20:45
guest83112usually works for saving to the destination folder20:45
Waka_Flocka_Flamanyone know if you install applications while using a live cd, when you install or use persistence, if they will install with it?20:45
chachanguest83112, some like a terrible practice, even more it works without including a root user20:46
chachansounds*20:47
guntbertchachan: +120:47
guest83112i should have said 'sudoer' instead of root, but you get the idea..brute force the mother20:47
faissi have a problem to install realtek ethernet NIC seeking r8169 driver20:47
faissINSTALL /home/fai/Downloads/r8169-6.018.00/src/r8169.ko20:48
faissCan't read private key20:48
faiss  DEPMOD  3.11.0-18-generic20:48
kostkonfaiss, what are you trying to do20:51
BeldarWaka_Flocka_Flam, No a live cd/usb just install the OS on the iso.20:51
Beldarinstalls*20:51
jayanthhey anyone there ?20:52
Waka_Flocka_Flamoh, so it doesnt do anything loaded into memory20:52
Waka_Flocka_Flamthanks Beldar20:52
daftykinsjayanth: if you have a question, ask away20:52
Beldarno prob20:52
jayanthi tried installing ubuntu server on my PC20:52
jayanthit didn't work20:52
jayanthwhen i tried ubuntu desktop, it was smooth20:53
Waka_Flocka_Flamfaiss: does this help? https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Realtek_8169_driver_problem20:53
BeldarWaka_Flocka_Flam, You do have options however. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization20:53
jayanthbut can't get the server installed20:53
k1l_jayanth: what didnt work exactly?20:53
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k1l_!details | jayanth20:53
ubottujayanth: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)20:53
faisskostkon, i am trying to install a driver for my realtek r816920:54
orloxHello. What do I need to install to print to PDF in Ubuntu 13.10? I don't know how this was installed - some stuff is missing I think20:54
kostkonfaiss, the driver is already in ubuntu. and it should work fine. how do i  know it? i'm currently using it: Driver:            r8169  State:             connected  as you can see20:54
jayanthit says kernel installation error20:54
joseph07_Looking for insight here: I've running 13.10 and the X server is seg faulting on startup after an update. Looks like the error is occurring in libXfont20:54
faisskostkon, on 12.04 it works fine, but on 13.10 it doesnt20:55
kostkonfaiss, yeah im on 12.04 dont know about 13.1020:55
jayanthi tried to install it, it says the  kernel install problem20:55
IzayaInteresting results from a speedtest - need some help resolving latency issues I'm having in Ubuntu.20:56
jayanthwhat should i do ?20:56
Beldarorlox, the pdf reader top right corner dropdown has a print20:56
daftykinsjayanth: perhaps your installation media was corrupted somehow20:56
cattyhi guys20:56
IzayaSpeedtest for Ubuntu: Download 0.86 mbps Upload 1 mbps.20:56
IzayaSpeedtest for Windows 7: Download 8.73 mbps, Upload 9.37 mbps20:56
Izayawhat can I do to fix this?20:57
Beldarorlox, Document Viewer is the reader20:57
jayanthi downloaded different versions of server iso files, both 12.04 and 12.10 and 13.0420:57
jayanthnone works20:57
jayantheach one gives a different problem20:57
orloxBeldar: I want to print a document TO pdf, not print a pdf20:57
faisswith lsmod it shows up when i compile the binaries but when i reboot lsmod doesnt show anything about the module20:57
cattywhen one generates keys for specific clients with easy-rsa2, is a password neccacery?20:57
daftykinsIzaya: identify your network connection type, the hardware and driver in use, then search online to see if there are known issues20:58
orloxBeldar: Specially what I mean is, when I press 'print' in any application, I do not see 'generate pdf file' in the list of printers. I think I might need CUPS but it's depreciated or something?20:58
jayanthmy PC seller says that we need different hardware for server installation, is that true ? ?20:58
Izayakk20:58
k1l_jayanth: best is to ask here for a specific problem and to show the exact error20:59
IzayaBy network connection type, could you elaborate? Wifi vs. Plug?20:59
Beldarorlox, Here is my search look at the first one. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=ubuntu+print+to+pdf&btnG=&gbv=1&sei=WoU4U_v3DKqoyAHKvYDYBQ20:59
jayanthdaftykins: what should i do ?20:59
k1l_jayanth: no. ubuntu server runs on the same hardware as the desktop20:59
daftykinsjayanth: were you installing from a USB flash drive?20:59
Beldarorlox, cupspdf is part of the first hit.20:59
joseph07_Anyone have any ideas about my Xorg segfault on startup? Ubuntu 13.10. Error occurred after updating. Looks like the error is in libXFont21:00
kostkonorlox, if the app uses the gnome print dialog it shoudl have an option for outputting to pdf. if not, you can install the cups-pdf printer  cups is maintained by apple and used in mac os x and linux. not depreciated at all21:00
orloxBeldar: Do you have the package name for it? I see a different google to you, due to my location21:01
jayanthk1l_: I dont understand, then why is the installation  stops abruptly ?21:01
orloxkostkon: Thanks! cups-pdf is working21:01
kostkonorlox, np21:01
k1l_jayanth: i dont understand, too. as long as you dont come with specific error message21:01
Beldarorlox, http://jonmifsud.com/blog/print-to-pdf-with-ubuntu-linux/  try this21:01
jayanthdaftykins: Yes, i tried the installation  from usb21:01
orloxBeldar: Thanks for taking the time to answer.21:02
joseph07_looks like libxfont1 was included in the update21:02
joseph07_now is version 1.4.6-121:03
jayanthk1l_: I don't remember the error messages properly, it was a while ago that i tried the install.21:03
daftykinsjayanth: i'd recommend making sure your downloaded ISO of server was a good copy, (type !md5 to learn how) then make up the flash drive again after a proper format to see if it works on another try21:03
NEoneHi. I need to run a installer which has a GUI wizard. Problem is: I try to install it on a headless server on a VPS, so it's complaining about missing xserver. Developer told me to use ssh -X so the server OS uses the xserver/GUI of my local Ubuntu desktop. Question is: How exactly do I do that?21:04
Beldarorlox, No prob.21:04
daftykinsnell_: open a terminal, type "ssh -X user@myVPShere"21:04
daftykinsoops21:04
daftykinssorry nell_21:05
daftykinsNEone: ^^21:05
jayanthk1l_: I will try to install it again and will tell you the errors. Will the i.r.c be active tomorrow ?21:05
daftykinsNEone: then run the program you're installing after logging in21:05
NEoneso I type the ssh command in my local desktop, not on the server?21:05
k1l_jayanth: most times someone is active in here21:05
daftykinsNEone: yes because you need to connect to the VPS first... how do you normally access it? :)21:05
nasaspeak portuguese?21:06
daftykinsthe party never stops in #ubuntu.21:06
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NEoneThrough "SecureCRT", which is a text-based ssh program, similar to putty.21:06
k1l_!pt | nasa21:06
ubottunasa: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.21:06
hzlabHi I'm new for Linux! could anyone please advice me a good development environment for C# under Linux?21:06
daftykinsNEone: ok, time to do it the conventional way then ;)21:06
SuperLagdaftykins: noticed you got scottyarwood and his Java issue figured out yesterday. I *still* haven't got the Java plugin to work with Chrome.21:07
jayanthdaftykins: Ok i will try to download a new iso and verify it. But where am i suppose to type !md5 ? in this i.r.c or in the internet ? i am little confused.21:07
nasatky ubottu21:07
SuperLagjayanth: on the command line, in the directory where you download the iso to21:07
k1l_!md5 > jayanth21:07
ubottujayanth, please see my private message21:07
daftykinsSuperLag: yeah he was making some typos in the command, even once you identified his correct path ;_;21:07
daftykinsSuperLag: at one point he had it perfect bar for a // which ruined things, heh21:07
SuperLagouch21:07
SuperLagthat'll do it every time21:07
NEonehzlab: "monodevelop" is a IDE for developing C# in Linux. But be aware that the resulting programs will only run on a other Linux box if the "mono framework" is installed there.21:08
daftykinsSuperLag: i don't even know how one gets chrome on ubuntu 0o PPA? i know chromium-browser is a package for chromium21:08
SuperLagdaftykins: I'm running Google Chrome Unstable, and I notice that when you install the .deb file, it creates /opt/google/{chrome,chrome-unstable}21:09
kostkonhzlab, monodevelop  there's an ubuntu devel channel you could also ask in there ->  #ubuntu-app-devel21:09
NEonedaftykins: I've been told to "check if X11-forwarding is enabled". How do I check that?21:09
SuperLagdaftykins: http://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel, and I get the "Dev channel" one under 64-bit Ubuntu/Debian.21:10
nell_woo, thank you ubuntu for giving me a use for an old throw away laptop21:10
daftykinsNEone: rather than check all these things, can you not just ssh in with -X and try first? :)21:10
SuperLagNEone: unless you specifically went in and disabled it, it's enabled by default21:10
NEoneok, trying that... Thanks a lot21:10
charlesWSuperLag: Don't know if your interested, but I downloaded the Icedtea Java 6, 7 and the Webstart as well and I haven't anymore issues with Java since.21:10
hzlabNEone, kostkon Thank you very much!21:11
jayanthkil_: Hmm i understand now. i will do it after i download  the iso file21:11
jayanththanks guys21:11
SuperLagcharlesW: I use the OpenJDK packages in Ubuntu on VMs that I put up for accessing customer systems, but on my host OS.... Oracle all the way. It's because our Java-based app is based on the Oracle Java.21:12
Es0tericquick question -- i get this error: useradd: cannot create directory /home/TeeBoah/teeboah but there is no directory in /home/ called TeeBoah21:12
Es0tericthis is via the command-line21:12
SuperLagcharlesW: kind of ironic, since all the Oracle Java is, is OpenJDK + some proprietary Oracle bits.21:12
omar_Hi all. Please help. It's urgent.. :/ I am running Ubuntu 13.10 and for some reason now I can not see my Unity sidebar nor the other one at the top (not sure what it's called).. What can I do?21:12
charlesWSuperLag: Yep, been there.21:12
TzunamiiEs0teric: mkdir -p /home/TeeBoah/teeboah21:13
jayanthbye guys.21:13
Es0tericTzunamii i dont want that directory though21:13
Es0terici want it to be /home/teeboah21:13
SuperLagcharlesW: odd though, since I'm fairly savvy in getting the env working... that I'm having issues with Chrome.21:13
Es0tericnot /home/TeeBoah/teeboah21:13
Tzunamiithen why asking for it?21:13
Tzunamiisudo mkdir /home/TeeBoah21:13
Es0terici am not, Tzunamii  the initial command i ran was `sudo useradd teeboah -g sudo`21:13
SuperLagEs0teric: just do "useradd -m teeboah"21:14
SuperLagEs0teric: done.21:14
Es0tericSuperLag what if i want to add that user into the sudoers?21:14
charlesWSuperLag: You seem to be tech savvy, So, Have you checked with google to see if there is a update to their work environment?21:14
SuperLagEs0teric: sudo visudo, and edit your /etc/sudoers file21:14
Es0tericSuperLag i also get the same error useradd: cannot create directory /home/TeeBoah/teeboah when doing `sudo useradd -m teeboah`21:15
NEoneEs0teric: usermod -a -G sudo teeboah21:15
nasa_nao consigo conectar na sala ubuntu-br21:15
Es0tericNEone first i need to create the user account21:15
SuperLagEs0teric: what have you been messing with, that your system thinks it should add new user homedirs to /home/TeeBoah/ ?21:15
k1l_!pt | nasa_21:16
ubottunasa_: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.21:16
NEoneYes, after that, the command I mentioned makes it a "sudoer"21:16
Es0tericSuperLag oh crap.. the last time i created a user i did useradd -b --base-dir /home/TeeBoah21:17
Es0tericso now it thinks its the default dir, how do i change that?21:17
NEonelol21:17
Es0tericdo i just do useradd -b --base-dir /home ?21:17
NEoneyeah, might work21:18
TJ-Es0teric: "usermod --home ...."21:18
joseph07_Sorry about the repost, but anyone think they could help me figure out how to fix a startup problem I'm having?21:18
Es0tericTJ- the user has not been created yet21:19
Es0terici cannot do usermod21:19
TJ-Es0teric: Ahhh, sorry :)21:19
Es0terichow do i get the default terminal prompt when ssh'ing?21:21
Es0tericright now i just have $21:22
nasa_tky21:22
daftykinsEs0teric: 'bash'21:22
Es0tericdaftykins but how do i make that pop everytime on login?21:22
joseph07_Do I need to register in order to use this channel? I accidentally left irc logged on at work21:23
daftykinsEs0teric: sounds to me like you created the user incorrectly, to not have had bash in the first place.21:23
Es0tericdaftykins i did useradd -d /home <user>21:23
daftykinsEs0teric: yeah that's insufficient. edit /etc/passwd so the user has the correct shell.21:24
Es0tericdaftykins how do i do that?21:24
SuperLagcharlesW: I was not aware there was a specific "work environment" for Chrome. I use unstable, because it usually gets new features first. :)21:25
charlesWHas anyone on here Built their own LFS system?21:25
SuperLagcharlesW: no, but thinking about it :)21:25
daftykinsEs0teric: command line or GUI?21:25
SuperLagcharlesW: and the topic police *will* get you for that. :)21:25
Es0tericdaftykins gui21:26
charlesWSuperLag: That's true, I just have some clients who prefer the other way over my way. lol... I started my LFS the other day and it is really cool.21:27
Es0tericdaftykins i just change it from sh to bash right?21:27
daftykinsEs0teric: by editing the ending of the line beside the username you added in that file, yes21:27
Es0tericdaftykins awesome, just did it, thanks21:27
daftykinsnp21:27
daftykinsEs0teric: the correct way if you read "man useradd" is by specifying the default shell at creation time21:28
joseph07Hello everyone21:28
joseph07I'm having a problem at startup21:28
kostkon!details | joseph0721:28
ubottujoseph07: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)21:28
charlesWSuperLag:  and the topic police *will* get you for that. What do you mean??? curious21:28
Es0tericdaftykins yeah i see21:28
joseph07Xorg is segfaulting. Looks like the error is occurring in libXfont. Ubuntu 13.10. Started after an update that bumped libxfont1 to 1.4.6-121:29
kostkon!info libxfont saucy21:31
ubottuPackage libxfont does not exist in saucy21:31
kostkon!info libxfont1 saucy21:31
ubottulibxfont1 (source: libxfont): X11 font rasterisation library. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.4.6-1ubuntu0.1 (saucy), package size 126 kB, installed size 283 kB21:31
kostkonjoseph07, how do you know that libxfont1 is to blame21:32
joseph07kostkon: The backtrace in the x server log21:32
joseph07I'd paste it but it's on a different computer that is not very usable atm21:33
kostkonjoseph07, pastebin it if you can. someone might have encountered the error before and will be able to help you etc etc21:33
kostkonright21:33
joseph07kostkon: Oh I can scp. Just a moment21:34
kostkonjoseph07, the simplest thing you could do would be to boot into recovery mode and try to reinstall the package, after doing an apt-get clean first of course21:34
EndymionMHi, I'm not sure if this is the place to ask, but here goes.  What does the "Ubuntu Firefox Modifications" addon do?21:35
joseph07kostkon: I booted in recover mode and set the boot to text so I have easy shell access21:35
kostkonjoseph07, ok21:36
SuperLagcharlesW: LFS is not Ubuntu. If you want to discuss anything that's considered offtopic, they'll send you to #ubuntu-offtopic. Surprised no one has said anything like that, yet. :)21:36
charlesWSuperLag: gotcha, I'll keep that in mind.21:37
joseph07kostkon: How do I reinstall the package? It has a lot of rdeps21:37
kostkonjoseph07, hopping that the fs is not set to read only, do a apt-get clean and then sudo apt-get install libxfont1 --reinstall21:38
rwwEndymionM: changes the homepage, enables apt: URLs, and iirc moves the location of the Preferences menu item21:38
kostkonminus the "sudo" part21:38
rwwEndymionM: probably other things too, but those are the ones I remember21:38
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joseph07kostkon: Guess that was a rtfm haha21:39
kostkonjoseph07, yes, a man apt-get21:39
EndymionMrww: Alright, thanks.  Disabling then.21:40
Es0terichow do i change a users name?21:40
Es0terica username's name where it says "full name"21:40
sadpuppynick new nick21:41
sadpuppywith / in front21:41
joseph07kostkon: Okay rebooting after reinstall and http://paste.ubuntu.com/7181824/ for posterity21:41
joseph07kostkon: And it's a no-go. Same error21:45
kostkonjoseph07, you could check your dpkg.log  and see which pacakges were updated. it could be something related to the nvidia driver21:47
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joseph07kostkon: nvidia wasn't updated, but libxfont went from 1.4.6-1 to 1.4.6-1ubunto0.121:55
joseph07kostkon: I don't even know what that means21:55
kostkonjoseph07, it was a security update http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/libx/libxfont/libxfont_1.4.6-1ubuntu0.1/changelog21:56
sadpuppyhacker free21:56
sadpuppylol21:56
daftykinsEs0teric: look into usermod perhaps21:56
kostkonjoseph07, maybe try reinstalling the nvidia driver? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#Installation_without_X_.2BAC8_from_the_console21:57
izayaI'm about to compile some code and was hoping for some backup in guiding me through his22:00
TJ-joseph07: That error looks like it could be triggered by the reading of an installed file. Looking at the top of the Xorg log, there are 2 directories being added to the FontPath, so it might be worth looking at the files in those directories, and trying to determine if any are corrupted/truncated22:00
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TJ-joseph07: It's worth doing a reinstall of the font files: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install xfonts-base xfonts-scalable gsfonts-x11 xfonts-mathml"22:03
IzayaHow do I run an install.sh22:03
Izaya?22:03
joseph07TJ-: Thanks I was just reading about dpkg -S but you beat me22:03
calimero_82hello22:04
TJ-joseph07: Bear in mind reinstalling won't remove any additional files in those directories that shouldn't be there22:04
calimero_82i've installed lubuntu in my acer 3634wlmi, but doesn't work, the guides say to create xorg.conf, how can i create it? thanks22:05
enchiladoIzaya: ./install.sh22:05
joseph07TJ-: So maybe I will run dpkg -S on each and see if there is an orphan. Is there a better way?22:05
Izayado I have to cd to that directory first enchilado?22:05
daftykinscalimero_82: does the guide show what to put in it?22:05
enchiladoYou may need to run $ chmod +x install.sh first if that doesn't work22:05
Izayaokay22:05
IzayaI take it I have to cd to that directory first though in shell first yes?22:05
daftykinsyes22:06
enchiladoIzaya: I've never tried doing it without changing to the directory first, so I'm not sure.22:06
calimero_82yes daftykins , but the problem is screen doesn't work, i should use shell in desktop, but doesn't work video card22:06
Izayaokay gotcha22:06
daftykins"./" means "in current directory"22:06
enchiladoIf not you'd certainly have to type the path from your current directory.22:06
calimero_82it's a sis garphic card22:06
daftykinscalimero_82: you might find #ubuntu-it more useful22:06
calimero_82none answer me22:07
Izayagetting authentication failure22:07
Izayabut I'm putting in my password for root...22:07
daftykinscalimero_82: ugh SiS, i'm amazed that even works. is the guide for the same version of ubuntu you installed?22:07
Izayashould I sudo chmod +x?22:08
calimero_82i'm using wiki22:08
calimero_82but wiki says: use console tty, but desktop doesn't works22:08
calimero_82refresh always22:08
daftykinsIzaya: no22:09
OerHekssudo touch  /etc/X11/xorg.conf && gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf22:09
IzayaI keep getting authentication failure22:10
joseph07TJ-: I'm going to go ahead and restart with the fresh font packages, but I did find a couple files in /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/ that don't seem to belong to a package22:10
joseph07TJ-: Namely encodings.dir, fonts.alias, fonts.dir22:11
TJ-joseph07: Those sound like directories, or the font name aliases list22:12
Izayaquestion22:12
TJ-joseph07: I was writing a script here to compare, but I must have other font packages installed because the diff is large22:12
Izayais there any reason my password would be different when asking for rooth authentication than for when I log into my pc?22:12
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Izayabecause that seems to be what is happening22:12
snoooop_hi all, I don't understand how permissions are given in Ubuntu, I am able to cd into other accounts from the one I use. Is that normal ?22:13
m1dnighthey guys, can I disbale waking up from suspend with keypresses?22:13
m1dnightim afraid my laptop might wake up in my backpack..22:13
m1dnighte.g., force it to wake up by pressing the powerbutton only or something22:13
OerHekssnoooop_, sure, without enrypted /home/ you can browse22:14
b3rz3rk3rm1dnight, just close the lid22:14
joseph07TJ-: They aren't directories. I guess the dir suffix is because they constitute a directory of encodings etc.. But shouldn't they be owned by a package?22:14
m1dnightb3rz3rk3r: yes, I know but I put my mousemat in between, and I'm not sure if it'll work22:15
m1dnighti'll try tomorrow though22:15
TJ-joseph07: No, likely generated by the postinst scripts or the font maintenance scripts22:15
snoooop_OerHeks, ok, thanks.  now I realize that I also can run "sudo su" and become root. Is that also normal ?22:15
joseph07TJ-: In that case, is there something like a reconfigure I should try? (I haven't used dep/ubuntu for awhile)22:16
Izayagetting a ton of these on install:22:16
Izayartl8188C_8192C_usb_linux_v4.0.2_9000.20130911/hal/rtl8192c/rtl8192c_hal_init.c22:17
Izayatar: rtl8188C_8192C_usb_linux_v4.0.2_9000.20130911/hal/rtl8192c/rtl8192c_hal_init.c: Cannot open: File exists22:17
Izayais there a way to have my ./install.sh overwrite those files?22:17
TJ-joseph07: package xfonts-utils has several tools, including /usr/sbin/update-fonts-{alias,dir,scale}22:18
ugliefroglear22:21
darkangelCurious* If there is any Broken Package or package that is effecting other packages from getting installed should it be Reported?22:23
rwwubottu: crossposting | darkangel22:24
ubottudarkangel: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.22:24
joseph07TJ-: Thanks for all your help by the way. It looks like there were a few font-related package updates in the offending update. Is there any way I could narrow it down to a specific file?22:24
darkangeldidnt know that was wrong sorry22:24
TJ-joseph07: Let me take a look at the segfault backtrace again22:25
joseph07TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7182053/22:26
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joseph07TJ-: FontParseXLFDName ~ eXtra Large Font Descriptor NAme?22:29
joseph07TJ-: Be right back22:30
TJ-joseph07: bear with me, I'm checking the source22:31
snoooop_I just read the "searching the dash legal notice" and this can actually give  Canonical  the right to steal your passwords or any other information .  Then only thing they  have to do is to update the notice.  At least in EU22:34
snoooop_*Then The22:35
OerHekssnoooop_, yes, i often use my password in unity-dash22:37
OerHeksi like to search for my password, don't you?22:37
TaylorWhat's my best choice to tackle updating 12.04 to the latest version? I'm not sure if I should update or just reinstall fresh22:38
rwwTaylor: wait until 14.04 comes out mid-April and then upgrade direct to it22:39
LuyinTaylor: reinstall, it's usually safest. the one time I actually upgraded it took about 5-6 hours and networking was destroyed afterwards.22:39
kostkonTaylor, wait for 14.04 to come out and then upgrade to it22:39
snoooop_OerHeks, If Canonical want to access your system they can just update the notice for 10 minutes,  use some kind of backdoor and then sell the stuff to NSA.22:39
rwwTaylor: otherwise, you're going 12.04 -> 12.10 -> 13.04 -> 13.10 or reinstalling, and it sounds like you're better off sticking to a two-year cadence22:40
snoooop_snoooop_, As I understand it you then actually give them the right to hack your system22:40
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* rww facepalms22:41
kostkonsnoooop_, talking to yourself nice.  this is a support channels. for general discussion there is #ubuntu-offtopic22:41
Izayawell, I seem to have found my issue - but am Unable to bring it to a resolution. UGH....22:41
snoooop_kostkon, It was a security question22:42
rwwsnoooop_: Canonical does not have "the right to hack your system". Where did you hear this?22:42
snoooop_rww, In the notice it say, "Canonical may change this Privacy Policy from time to time, and at Canonical's sole discretion"22:44
rwwsnoooop_: and?22:44
snoooop_rww, so they have the right to access the system if they just make a change in your copy for 10 minutes.22:44
Izayais there any reason I should be getting an authentication failure when running ./install.sh for a driver compilation22:44
rwwsnoooop_: Please consider consulting someone with legal training before spouting off legal theory in public.22:45
ikoniasnoooop_: or better still - just don't22:45
ikoniaIzaya: using sudo ?22:45
yenicIs there an easy way to enable mouse buttons 4/5 in Ubuntu 12.04LTS? For back/forward in FF, primarily.22:45
IzayaI can try it again but22:46
Izayait asks for it beforehand22:46
Izayashould I do sudo ./install.sh22:46
Izaya?22:46
ikoniaIzaya: is this a graphics driver by any chance ?22:46
Izayano ikonia actually it's the wifi driver22:47
snoooop_ikonia,  what do you mean with  "or better still - just don't"  ?22:47
IzayaWiFi driver is using wrong version, giving me apallingly slow connection speeds22:47
Izayamake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.11.0-18-generic'22:47
Izaya/usr/src/linux-headers-3.11.0-18-generic/arch/x86/Makefile:113: CONFIG_X86_X32 enabled but no binutils support22:47
Izayamake[1]: *** No rule to make target `USB'.  Stop.22:47
Franiwhere can i download intel graphics 4400 driver ?22:47
IzayaI get that at the end of trying to install it.22:47
ikoniasnoooop_: don't talk about something you appear to have no understanding of22:47
ikoniaIzaya: that's not an authentication error22:47
Izayayah, after running it as sudo it seems to work22:48
Izayabut now it gives me that22:48
Franisomebody know where can i download Intel Grapics 4400 driver ?22:48
Izayano idea what that means though22:48
IzayaFrani: google?22:48
ikoniaIzaya: have you read the documentation about what packages it needs22:48
ikoniaFrani: you shouldn't need to download anything22:48
Taylorrww: Is the current release of 14.04 stable enough to install for a personal computer?22:49
Tayloror anyone22:49
IzayaI haven't, though I should probably try to find out.22:49
ikoniaTaylor: nope22:49
kostkonTaylor, ask in #ubuntu+122:49
TJ-Izaya: Sounds like you're building on a 64-bit system, a driver that is configured only for 32-bit22:49
rwwTaylor: It's a development release, so #ubuntu doesn't support it yet. Therefore, I'm required to say no :P22:49
TaylorAh22:49
TaylorAlright I'll just hold off on doing anything until it's released then22:49
TaylorYou expect it in April?22:49
snoooop_ikonia,  well,,  I have studied law at the university and in most countries what  is written in a contract are in fact the agreement between the parties.22:49
ikoniaTJ-: that wouldn't explain the missing target22:49
rwwTaylor: the last time Ubuntu missed a release estimate was 2006, so fairly.22:49
rwwTaylor: 17th, to be precise22:50
ikoniasnoooop_: I suggest dropping it, if you're not confortable with the policy, don't use ubuntu22:50
TaylorAlright, sounds good22:50
Taylorcheers22:50
TJ-ikonia: Yes it would, that is a knock-on from the binutils failure22:50
WannaBeGeeksterIf I modprobe 8021q can I just manually configure /etc/network/interfaces to use a VLAN?  Or do I have to use vconfig to make it work?22:50
ikoniaTJ-: Hmmm, maybe if the binutils section is generating the makefile.22:50
TJ-Izaya: Show us "uname -a" please22:50
kostkonTaylor, ubuntu is not fedora. there is a more or less strict schedule being followed  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule22:51
IzayaTJ- Linux Izaya 3.11.0-18-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 18 21:11:14 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux22:51
snoooop_ikonia, yea, I don't want to discuss the matter, just looking for answers.  Anyway is there a way to "not accept" the agreement ?22:52
ikoniasnoooop_: not to use ubuntu22:52
TJ-Izaya: ikonia This is the Makefile code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7182229/22:52
Flannelsnoooop_: uninstall the package22:52
ikoniaTJ-: export CONFIG_X86_X32_ABI :)22:53
TJ-Izaya: Where did you get the driver source-code from? Give me the URL22:53
ikoniaTJ-: good spot, and good effort digging out the souce22:53
IzayaTJ- coming right up22:53
Izayahttp://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=21&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true22:53
TJ-ikonia: I work with it daily22:53
ikoniaTJ-: ahhh so you know the product22:53
IzayaTJ- RTL8188CUS22:53
TJ-ikonia: Linux, yes22:54
ikoniaTJ-: I meant the Makefile/product spefically22:54
TJ-Izaya: which device is it?22:54
IzayaRTL8188CUS22:54
IzayaTJ- RTL8188CUS, Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188CUS 802.11n WLAN Adapter22:55
snoooop_Flannel, I think ikonia are right, anyway thanks22:55
Izayabutchlugrod, the device drivers it is trying to use are22:55
Izayabut*** rather22:55
TJ-Izaya: first issue I see is, the source claims to be for kernel versions 2.6.16 - 3.9, and your system is 3.11 ... that might not be an issue, but often can be, as things are moved around22:55
jje_922:55
Izayait is currently using RTL8192CU22:55
kostkonsnoooop_, disable the online searched in dash. the option is in your privacy settings22:55
IzayaTJ- ah....22:56
kostkonsearches*22:56
TJ-Izaya: I'll try building it here, see what I get22:56
IzayaTJ- any way I can force it to replace RTL8192cu with RTL8188CUS? I'm so used to windows and driver updates that way22:56
snoooop_kostkon, but that don't change the private policy as I understand it.22:57
Izayathank you TJ-22:58
TJ-Izaya: Not sure what you mean by that; do you mwant you have the "CU" driver and want to use the "CUS" driver?22:58
snoooop_kostkon, anyway, thanks. I will not nag about this more22:58
kostkonsnoooop_, no, but i guess it stops being applicable22:58
TJ-Izaya: s/mwant/mean/22:58
Franiikonia: I have a asus UX302LA and this detect incorrectly the graphics22:59
snoooop_kostkon, no I don't think so ?  I can not find any info about this.23:00
kostkonsnoooop_, probably there isn't23:00
Izayayes. Essentially I want to replace the 8192CU with the 8188CUS. Not sure if there's a way to force and overwrite and have it pickup the new driver23:00
Izayanot sure if that's possible though, TJ-23:00
IzayaTJ- I don't understand?23:01
Izayaperhaps it would just be easier for me to find a USB WiFi adapter that is compatible with 13.10 Ubuntu23:02
snoooop_kostkon, thanks, have to sleep now23:02
kostkonsnoooop_, gn then23:03
TJ-Izaya: OK, when you told me " RTL8188CUS, Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188CUS 802.11n WLAN Adapter" is that the device as reported by "lspci", or did that come from some text on the Realtek web-site or elsewhere?23:03
TJ-Izaya: I'm trying to be sure we have the correct source-code package.23:03
Izayareported by lsus23:03
TJ-Izaya: OK, yes, same thing :) OK, I have the correct source-code. It has a problem.23:04
Izayaah23:04
Izayasomething wrong in the source then?23:04
TJ-Izaya: The Makefile for the kernel module has a Makefile that hard-codes "CONFIG_PLATFORM_I386_PC = y"  which then leads to doing "ifeq ($(CONFIG_PLATFORM_I386_PC), y)" which tries to manipulate the host architecture, expecting it to be x86 form: "SUBARCH := $(shell uname -m | sed -e s/i.86/i386/)" but that fails since "uname -m" is returning "x86_64"23:05
Izayainteresting.23:06
TJ-Izaya: It looks as if the source-package is hard-coded for 32-bit kernel builds; I'm not clear how easy it would be to build it for 64-bit, since there may be structures in the source-code that expect 32-bit sizes23:06
Izayaso what you're saying is23:06
Izayathis driver is not compatible with 64 bit systems23:07
Izayasounds like it may be something where I want to update the Hardware then, eh TJ-?23:07
Izayaorwell, what I may do is take my wifi extender, use a hard cable and plug in to my tower that way23:08
IzayaTJ- that would probably resolve the issue.23:08
daftykinsIzaya / TJ- perhaps booting a 32-bit liveCD and trying the driver out there might be wise23:08
wafflejockIzaya: many times you could use ndiswrapper to use windows drivers in linux too if the open source drivers aren't working out23:08
Izayadaftykins: also a good idea. if I were to then install that way would it work when I jumped back?23:08
TJ-Izaya: No, I think the driver might build for 64-bit but not sure how successful; just need to alter a small part of that Makefile to test it, then we'll know23:09
Izayawafflejock: thanks23:09
joseph07TJ-: back. Any leads? Also if you point me to the source I could check it out myself23:09
IzayaTJ- alright... sorry to put everyone to work and then run, but I have to go out for about an hour and a half. Please don't feel the need to continue on this at this point, as I may try other hardware-side solutions.23:10
jhutchinswafflejock: Actually, ndiswrapper is pretty much deprecated these days.23:10
IzayaTJ- for example I may just take my wifi extender, set it up next to my computer, and then plug in directly to that wifi extender from my tower23:10
wafflejockyeah I was sorta thinking that... thanks for the update23:10
wafflejockI haven't seen it used much and haven't needed it myself recently23:10
IzayaTJ- that would work just as easily without all the software fixes.23:11
wafflejockbut was something I relied on a few years back all the time23:11
Franiis theres anbody to ask a question?23:11
IzayaTJ- anyway, thank you for helping to explain the issue further. I'll try the hardwiring solution before I try to edit source code for a driver.23:11
wafflejock!ask > Frani23:11
ubottuFrani, please see my private message23:11
TJ-Izaya: test building here now; discovered already the install.sh script actually requires bash not sh23:14
TJ-Izaya: building fine so far; way past where it stopped for you23:15
joseph07TJ-: Well I found the source and it does look related to the font name, but the FontParseXLFDName is pretty lengthy23:17
TJ-joseph07: Yes, that function parses the X Logical Filename Description, which fits with our theory that some font file is upsetting it. I'd suggest temporarily moving all the files from /usr/share/X11/fonts/{misc,Type1} to back-up directories (or rename those directories and create empty ones with the original names) and try starting the X server. If that works, we at least know it is a file in those directories for sure.23:20
TJ-Izaya: Well there's good news and bad news: The good news is, the source builds on x86_64. The bad news is, it fails to build for kernel 3.11 but it builds for 3.8 and 3.923:26
joseph07TJ-: Okay after removing misc and Type1, the FontPath was set to "built-ins" and the segfault still occurred23:29
abvxHi all, im trying to set up an encrypted bootable usb install right now. and im stuck with the installer. I hit manual, since i also need a fat32 partition on the usb stick, not just the encrypted linux system. Can anyone give me hints on the partitioning?23:29
TJ-joseph07: That is beginning to indicate an problem with libxfont, I think. Did you do a --reinstall of the libxfont package?23:29
joseph07TJ-: Yes, although it was called libxfont123:30
TJ-joseph07: Yes, I wasn't being precise on the version :)23:30
TJ-joseph07: Let's try to confirm the binary from the package isn't in some way corrupted.  "md5sum /usr/lib/libXfont.so.1"23:31
abvxCurrently i have the following partition setup on my usb stick. Fat32_128mb23:32
abvxsorry, fat32-10gb  ext2-128mb-/boot23:33
abvxnow im stuck, if i set up a physical volume for crypto the installer complains about an unencrypted swap23:34
dante123hi all, trying to install google chrome on trusty tahr and its not working.  any ideas?23:34
joseph07TJ-: Okay the library was installed in /usr/lib/x8623:36
Beldardante123, The google download should work, the 14.04 channel is #ubuntu+1 is all23:36
joseph07TJ-: Okay the library was installed in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXfont.so and hash is 1239bd7498178c77c93ebcae3dbe124123:36
dante123thanks, i asked in +1 but got no reply so tried here.  The google download does not work, I guess I could retry downloading it.23:37
logicalguys what do you think about 14.04 ?23:38
testercan anyone tell me on ubuntu what the command for finding what version that u have23:38
logicalworth trying?23:38
TJ-joseph07: OK, the file is good.23:39
TJ-joseph07: So, something else is causing this, so we need to be able to identify the file being accessed when it crashes23:40
joseph07TJ-: libxfont1-dbg?23:40
TJ-joseph07: It's worth a try, we might see more backtrace info23:41
archpcusercan someone help me with something? I have no cd drive or a flash drive available, so I made a small 1gb partition to house the lubuntu cd install files, is there a way to get grub to see it?23:41
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archpcuserAll I could boot from is my puppy live cd which I keep handy23:42
DrDigita_I have a system with 5 NIC's and 1 is connected to behind a router (i wanted internal gigabit speeds) and the other is connected directly to a external static ip... how can i keep the internal NIC from going out my router for internet? don't set a gateway? no dns?23:42
joseph07TJ-: Do I need to replace the libXfont.so with the new debug one?23:43
TJ-joseph07: It might be worth doing "sudo inotifywatch -r /usr/share/X11/fonts" to see what dir/file is last accessed when X segfaults23:43
testerfrom the command line what command do I issue to find the distro version tried kenel -v distrobution -v filesystem -v  kinda out of option23:44
archpcusertester, uname?23:45
testerben23:45
archpcuserno, run "uname" in the terminal, lol23:45
testeriam useing a live cd23:46
archpcuserjust try it23:46
ikoniahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS23:46
DrDigita_isn't it uname -a23:46
archpcuserthat's it, I think23:47
joseph07TJ-: looks like the fonts dir was automatically removed when X realized there weren't any fonts in it23:47
archpcusertester, run "man uname" and find what helps :)23:47
DrDigita_uname for me just says linux23:47
testerthanks23:47
joseph07TJ-: such a lie, my bad. Running with inotify23:47
testerjust give me tester or linux23:49
testerneed to figure out what this version of ubuntu is23:49
DrDigita_did you add the -a23:49
testerI think it is posably 10 but not sure23:49
DrDigita_'uname -a'23:50
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tester-a just gives me the kernel name23:50
DrDigita_man uname then23:51
testeruname -o23:51
testerjust give me linux23:52
ikoniatype "uname -a"23:52
ikoniait's that simple23:52
ikoniathat will give you all info23:52
testeruname -i23:52
testeruknown23:53
ikoniatester: uname -a23:53
ikoniatester: -a !23:53
testeryeah thats what it gives me23:53
ikoniatester: type the command "uname -a"23:54
ikoniaand paste the output into this channel23:54
testerok thanks gues its not real important just thought there was a quik way to find out the info23:55
ikoniauname -a is the command23:55
TJ-tester: "lsb_release -a"23:56
joseph07TJ-: Thanks for all your help! I've gotta run now but I'll probably be looking again tomorrow23:56
TJ-joseph07: good luck :)23:56
testeralso how can i give my self global root permisions so that I do not have to ke typeing su before every command makes iot very har to get anything sone23:56
ikoniatester: sudo -i23:56
testerdo I put that in a config file sudo -i23:57
ikoniatester: no23:57
ikoniatester: and to be honest - if you are asking these sort of questions you should not be using root privileges23:57

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