[00:01] <Helena222> Beldar, everything looks absolutely great and perfect, Ubuntu booted perfectly with no warning messages of any missing disk, W8 booted great and has C: and D: as I exactly wanted, so THANKS AGAIN!!!!
[00:05] <lickalott> gents, is there an NZB client that is command line based?
[00:05] <Anonynimity> Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $Display for x11 error
[00:06] <daftykins> lickalott: inappropriate query for here methinks
[00:06] <Anonynimity> Hi Kira.
[00:06] <xar-> daftykins: nzb has plenty of practical uses
[00:07] <Anonynimity> Meth inks?
[00:07] <daftykins> like? :) (serious question)
[00:07] <RainMan28> guys i'm trying to rdp into my ubuntu 12.04 system from windows. I installed xrdp and am able to connect and login but then only see a blank desktop wallpaper
[00:07] <Anonynimity> What are you high? Lol. Jk
[00:08] <lickalott> ok.  sry man
[00:08] <xar-> usenet is essentially a text forum daftykins
[00:08] <xar-> Anonynimity: did you try pine?
[00:08] <Anonynimity> Whats pine?
[00:09] <xar-> Anonynimity: pine supports NNTP
[00:09] <daftykins> xar- wrong guy
[00:09] <Anonynimity> No idea what that is..
[00:09] <xar-> Anonynimity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders#Text-based
[00:09] <xar-> daftykins: what do you mean?
[00:10] <daftykins> xar-: it was lickalott asking
[00:10] <xar-> ah, lickalott: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders#Text-based
[00:10] <xar-> sorry Anonynimity
[00:11] <Anonynimity> Lol
[00:11] <xenoxsis> Hi everyone :
[00:12] <xar-> lickalott: pine looks promising
[00:12] <xar-> lickalott: it's as old as the internet
[00:12] <xenoxsis> Is there a way to start a program automatically in Ubuntu? At startup I mean?
[00:12] <lickalott> tks!  i'll check it out.
[00:13] <lickalott> xenoxsis, stick it in /etc/rc2.d as a script
[00:13] <Anonynimity> Gnome works but i have no toolbar (applications, places, etc...
[00:13] <lickalott> or make a cron job
[00:13] <xar-> xenoxsis: @reboot cron task; @reboot /path/to/script
[00:13] <xenoxsis> lickalott, very much a new linux/ubuntu user here - So could you elaborate a touch as to the "script" part? :)
[00:13] <xar-> xenoxsis: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html
[00:13] <lickalott> ^^
[00:14] <xenoxsis> lol - thanks :) And I'll find cron jobs in there I take it :)
[00:14] <xar-> xenoxsis: also: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[00:14] <xenoxsis> oh I thought it was a "ubuntu getting started" guide :)
[00:15] <ampro> In GThumb, does anyone know if there's a way to apply a tag to multiple photos at the same time?
[00:15] <Anonynimity> Batch-tag?
[00:16] <RainMan28> how can I automatically accept the defaults when i do apt-get install?
[00:16] <instar> Hi all
[00:16] <Anonynimity> -D?
[00:16] <ampro> Anonynimity: Is that an answer?  Is it a command line option or something?  Or are you looking for clarification from me?
[00:16] <xenoxsis> xar-: thank you so much :) It's somewhat confusing to move to linux when you've always used windows :)
[00:16] <ampro> Anonynimity: Yes, though, that's what I"d like to do, I just don't know how to do it.
[00:16] <Anonynimity> It was clarification... Was half joking...
[00:17] <xar-> xenoxsis: if you can read and have patience, you'll be fine. good luck :)
[00:17] <ampro> Anonynimity: ok
[00:17] <xenoxsis> xar-: I read...And as for the patience, we'll have to see :) But so far I've managed - Thanks :)
[00:17] <Anonynimity> Dont know... Having issues myself... But will find out as soon as this is fixed ampro
[00:18] <RainMan28> how can I automatically accept the defaults when i do apt-get install?
[00:18] <Anonynimity> Using my phone to chat.
[00:18] <ampro> Anonynimity: I've been poking around in GThumb for quite a while, but haven't found a way.  What's your current issue?
[00:18] <Beldar> RainMan28, Context?
[00:18] <Anonynimity> RainMan28 use the default switch?
[00:18] <balsaq> when a person install ubuntu 12.04 and DOES NOT use the advanced partiioning tools, and ubuntu installs as default...how much of a swap partition is created by ubuntu?
[00:19] <RainMan28> Beldar: if I do sudo apt-get install somepackage it then asks Y/n on the package...I want it to automatically just choose the default (Yes in this case) without prompting
[00:19] <balsaq> and also can the swap be made ;ater using a fast usb flash drive?
[00:19] <balsaq> later*
[00:20] <balsaq> thus speeding it up potentially
[00:20] <Chuck_Norris> aloha all...
[00:20] <Anonynimity> Something was removed... Didnt have a gui... Having to reinstall the gui(s) piece by piece. Installed gnome but dont have any sort of applications, etc... Ampro
[00:20] <Beldar> RainMan28, You can run a force I think it's called, could be an issue on a partial or broken upgrade however.
[00:20] <Chuck_Norris> any sugguestion:  http://i.imgur.com/C99fEeR.png  -.-
[00:21] <Anonynimity> Rainman28 use apt-get install thispackage -y -q
[00:21] <RainMan28> ah ok
[00:21] <xangua> Chuck_Norris: on what¿ please describe your issue
[00:21] <RainMan28> Anonynimity: can those flags go before the package name?
[00:21] <ampro> Anonynimity: Have you tried installing the meta-package?  Would probably be something like ubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop?
[00:22] <ClickAhead> Hi I'm trying to reinstall over an existing installation. I'm running the live image from a usb disk. I'm only one step from clicking "install now". That is "Device for boot loader installation" I don't know what to select there. My usb drive is selected by default. I had been dual booting with windows. What is the correct option?
[00:22] <Anonynimity> I did install ubuntu-desktop ... No unity and still no shortcut panel
[00:22] <Anonynimity> Rainman28 use after the package name.
[00:22] <Chuck_Norris> i am just bragging :p
[00:23] <RainMan28> Anonynimity: will apt-get --yes install packagename work?
[00:23] <Anonynimity> I would just use -y
[00:23] <RainMan28> Anonynimity: ok but can i use -y before the package name?
[00:24] <Anonynimity> Ampro installing 510 packages on cli
[00:24] <ampro> Anonynimity: weird, because ubuntu-desktop depends on unity...
[00:24] <Anonynimity> Strange.
[00:24] <ampro> ampro: well then, you do know you can do them all at once if you have the list, right?
[00:24] <ampro> haha, i mean Anonynimity
[00:24] <ampro> talking to myself...
[00:25] <Anonynimity> I dont have the list ampro
[00:25] <balsaq> i did not do custom (advanced partitions) and ubuntu is installing itself as we speak...now i am wondering about thw swap file? it never asked me to make one?
[00:26] <balsaq> will ubuntu make a sawp for me on its own?
[00:26] <ampro> Anonynimity: so how are you doing it?  looking for what you're missing and reinstalling each thing as you figure out it's missing?
[00:26] <Anonynimity> Ampro need help with something else if youre up for it...
[00:26] <Anonynimity> Yup ampro.
[00:26] <ampro> Anonynimity: could certainly try.
[00:27] <ampro> Anonynimity: what did you use to install ubuntu-desktop?  apt-get or software center or what?
[00:27] <Anonynimity> Once im back up and running... Want to port ubuntu touch to the d2att.
[00:27] <dragslave> jhj
[00:27] <Anonynimity> I used apt-get on the cli ampro
[00:27] <ampro> Anonynimity: way out of my league
[00:28] <ampro> Anonynimity: I wonder if there's a good reinstall switch that will pull dependencies.  It seems like it probably just saw that the package was already there and said done.
[00:28] <aidalgol> I'm running rsync with --safe-links and --delete, but it's still deleting absolute symlinks that are only on the remote host.
[00:28] <Anonynimity> I tried before but it gave me compile errors.
[00:29] <daftykins> ampro: i had Anonynimity install ubuntu-desktop^ earlier which pulls in all deps.
[00:30] <ampro> apparently not, though, for some reason.  was it already there, or did it actually install it, but not pull dependencies (for some crazy unknown reason,, since that's apt's sole purpose...?)
[00:32] <ampro> Anonynimity: It looks like maybe apt-get -f would help:  http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get  Not sure if that's all of it, or if you'd want to specify ubuntu-desktop or install or anything like taht, but I'd try apt-get -f first and build from there
[00:33] <ampro> Anonynimity: or just --reinstall
[00:34] <ampro> Anonynimity: If you just did install again the last time, maybe it did quit because it as already there and wasn't told to reinstall
[00:34] <Anonynimity> Says client failed to connect to the dbus-daemon
[00:35] <ampro> Anonynimity: what command?
[00:35] <Anonynimity> Apt-get install gnome-*
[00:36] <ampro> Anonynimity: I don't know.  But there has to be a better way (meta-package) to get Gnome, too, though I thought you wanted Unity.
[00:37] <Anonynimity> I do but have to figure something out so i can use the desktop first...
[00:38] <ampro> Anonynimity: Anyway, my recommendation is "apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop" with a sudo if you need it
[00:38] <ampro> Anonynimity: and if that doesn't work, trying to figure out the -f switch
[00:39] <Anonynimity> Will try once unity reinstalls. Apt-get install -f
[00:42] <dioioib> if you want gnome desktop you need to install gdm and it takes a little bit to get setup.
[00:44] <ax562> I'm running ubuntu 12.04 LTS and I am looking for a solution.  My problem is when I unmount my external hardrive I cannot remount it unless I restart computer.
[00:45] <Beldar> ax562, YOu have it mounting in fstab?
[00:45] <ampro> ax562: do you unmount or "eject"
[00:45] <ampro> ?
[00:46] <ax562> I eject using the eject button in file manager
[00:46] <Anonynimity> Food!
[00:46] <ax562> I have tried just unplugging drive also with no luck
[00:46] <syadnom> hi all, anyone alive?
[00:46] <Anonynimity> Nope. All dead here.
[00:47] <ax562> the problem is once disconnected the OS doesn't detect it at all
[00:47] <ampro> ax562: Maybe try unmounting in terminal and see if it lets you remount it then?  I think eject is weird with actual drives that aren't detectable
[00:47] <Anonynimity> Lol jk
[00:47] <ampro> ax562: sudo umount /mount/point
[00:47] <Anonynimity> Use the mounts command?
[00:47] <syadnom> anyone running ubuntu w/ '/' as btrfs in a raid1 for data + meta?
[00:47] <ampro> ax562: and if it works you could make a launcher or something for it
[00:48] <ampro> ax562: if you didn't want to have to go to terminal every time
[00:48] <Beldar> !anyone|syadnom
[00:48] <syadnom> I'm entertaining the idea of migrating from my typical raid1 setup to btrfs for simplicity
[00:48] <ax562> ok, that is a solution.  Is that the only way to go?  Shouldn't ubuntu work properly?
[00:48] <ampro> ax562: you tried it and it worked?
[00:48] <syadnom> Beldar, ?
[00:48] <Beldar> syadnom, bots running slow, state the actual issue for help.
[00:49] <Beldar> To the channel not me
[00:49] <syadnom> Beldar, no issue, just fishing..
[00:49] <ax562> ampro: no I do not want to reset computer yet.  Watching live game.  I will on commercial break.  Shouldn't ubuntu work properly though?
[00:49] <Beldar> syadnom, This is support.
[00:49] <ccafns-420> q/ dragslave
[00:50] <Anonynimity> Well ubuntu desktop is half assed working...
[00:50] <ampro> ax562: just a user, myself.  yeah, that would be nice, though!  :)  I have no idea why it gives eject as an option, and maybe that's fixable somehow.  But I don't know how to do it.
[00:50] <ampro> ax562: and that's assuming my solution actually makes a difference
[00:50] <lickalott> xar-, nzbget (in case anyone else asks)
[00:50] <syadnom> so.....not an appropriate place to ask for advice and get opinions then...
[00:50] <ampro> either way, i think my way is easier than rebooting, and harder than it working properly in the first place.  :)
[00:50] <geomyidae_> hi, how can I "dump" my current modeline in the proper xorg.conf format?
[00:51] <geomyidae_> I'm kind of in shock that xrandr accepts modes in that format, but won't dump it back out in that format :/
[00:51] <ax562> I'm coming from 11.04 and never had that problem
[00:51] <ampro> Anonynimity: What did it, and how only half working?
[00:51] <ax562> Isn't LTS long term support?  How much longer to fix this issue lol?
[00:52] <ampro> ax562: Yeah, the older versions didn't do it, I do know that.   And yes, it is, and I don't know :)
[00:52] <Anonynimity> Logs into deaktop. Desktop is blank. No launcher or anything else, cant access terminal, etc.
[00:53] <ampro> Anonynimity: and what did you do to get to that point?
[00:53] <ax562> does anyone know how ubuntu handles mounting in general?  Specifically automatic ext hd detection and mounting?
[00:53] <ax562> maybe I can take a shot at it...
[00:53] <Anonynimity> Apt-get install --reinstall unity then ubuntu-desktop
[00:55] <ampro> ax562: I can tell you that i'm running a livecd of a 14.04 alpha right now and that it seems to work better in this.  so if you're going to upgrade to the next LTS, your solution should be right around the corner.
[00:55] <ax562> I'll be back. reset in progress.
[00:55] <ampro> Anonynimity: hm, weird
[00:55] <Anonynimity> :?
[00:55] <ax562> thanks ampro!
[00:56] <ampro> let me know if umounting manually helps
[00:57] <Anonynimity> Got my panel for gnome atleast
[00:57] <RainMan28> how can i manually force an motd to update instead of waiting for the 10 mins to expire?
[00:58] <ampro> Anonynimity: Maybe worth reinstalling?  How custom configured was the system, and do you have a backup drive to move your data to?
[00:59] <Anonynimity> Was custom configured all to hell... Took me weeks... No backup drive for this much data...
[00:59] <ampro> Anonynimity: Most of your usual config is going to be in your dotfiles in the home folders anyway, and shouldn't have been deleted when you accidentally uninstalled everything
[00:59] <ampro> Anonynimity: and home folder's on the same partition as root?
[00:59] <owen1> i just finished installing ubuntu 64bit on thinkpad. i boot the laptop and i see 'Operating system not found'
[00:59] <owen1> any tips?
[01:00] <Anonynimity> I used the autoremove...
[01:00] <Anonynimity> Dont know.
[01:00] <ampro> Anonynimity: Doesn't matter.  Check your home folder with ctrl-h and see
[01:01] <ampro> Anonynimity: if you didn't do it otherwise deliberately, your home folder is on the same partition as root, which makes it harder to restore without a backup drive
[01:01] <ampro> Anonynimity: is your hard drive more than half full?
[01:01] <guest-ibyS7x> I want to be able to map effectual change. As in something with an outcome guaging external pressures on both introverted energy and extroverted energy used toward environmental change.
[01:01] <RainMan28> how can i manually force an motd to update instead of waiting for the 10 mins to expire?
[01:01] <Anonynimity> Probably ampro... Sec
[01:02] <Anonynimity> Yes. Second os was installed because the pos wasnt booting a gui... Going to remove the partition.
[01:03] <guest-ibyS7x> Any remember back to columbine? There are those inland that do not tolerate the lack of change. And there are soldiers on the exterior of this sphere misdirected.
[01:03] <ampro> Anonynimity: yes was to what?  over half full?
[01:03] <Anonynimity> Yes.
[01:03] <balsaq> can i use a flash drive to make my ubuntu swap...i kinda blew it during install and did not make a big fat swap
[01:03] <ampro> Anonynimity: If you can make a second partition, you coudl use it to back up, then reinstall to first partition, restore, delete extra partition, expand main partition
[01:03] <guest-ibyS7x> "sphere" of circumstances, the designed pressures within the social groups
[01:03]  * balsaq blushes...
[01:03] <Rad-> is gcc installed on ubuntu by default?
[01:04] <Anonynimity> Not taking weeks to reconfigure everything... This is a special ubuntu version.
[01:04] <RainMan28> guest-ibyS7x: who are you talking to
[01:05] <Rad-> Also, what's the difference between libxml2 and libxml2-dev on ubuntu?
[01:05] <Flannel> guest-ibyS7x: Please keep things on topic for this channel, thanks.
[01:05] <RainMan28> how can i manually force an motd to update instead of waiting for the 10 mins to expire?
[01:06] <RainMan28> or better question, why is my motd not updating after i made changes to the scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/
[01:06] <ampro> Anonynimity: but what didn't you lose when you lost your entire desktop?  Up to you, of course, but it sounds like you dont' h ave much more to lose if you coudl back up what you can
[01:06] <Anonynimity> Downloaded the windows 7 source code and rewrote it so ubuntu would understand its instructions... Took some stuff out and added some things... Built it for ubuntu... Can natively run exe files without wine or anything else. Supports ms office.
[01:07] <ampro> hm ok
[01:07] <Anonynimity> I hardcoded that into my ubuntu os itself. I have alot of work lost if i do that.
[01:08] <GraemeLion> You mean the kernel.
[01:08] <GraemeLion> As what you're describing would also include kernel stuff
[01:08] <Anonynimity> So yes... Its customized all to hell. Kernel was part of it... Yes
[01:09] <ampro> Anonynimity: So just use explorer as your desktop shell :)
[01:09] <GraemeLion> yeah.
[01:09] <Anonynimity> Not that simple. I removed explorer to free up resources.
[01:09] <guest-ibyS7x> talking to RainMan28 now
[01:10] <Flannel> RainMan28: I don't believe the motd itself caches, each individual script in /etc/update-motd.d/ will sometimes do some caching though.
[01:10] <RainMan28> Flannel: ah i changed 99-footer and 01-custom-header and neither of the changes have reflected on login, even after 15 mins of waiting
[01:11] <RainMan28> Flannel: is there any way to clear the cache?
[01:13] <logical> hello everyone,  are there any widgets for ubuntu, i want to put a big clock to the right side of screen, I didnt found anything useful googling only stuff for ubuntu 10 or 11 v
[01:13] <GraemeLion> logical: With some configuration, conky can do that for you
[01:13] <GraemeLion> http://conky.sourceforge.net/
[01:13] <logical> i dont know what conky is but i will search for it
[01:13] <Flannel> RainMan28: There is no "cache" in a single location, the scripts themselves do the caching and checking inside the script.  Neither of those do any caching, that I'm aware of.  So they should update every interactive login, via pam_motd.
[01:14] <RainMan28> Flannel: yeah, it doesn't seem to be updating. Should I reboot the box?
[01:14] <ampro> logical: Also, probably way overkill just to get a clock, but KDE is all about widgets these days, so you could always check out Kubuntu.
[01:15] <Flannel> RainMan28: No, that seems silly.
[01:15] <logical> ty for answers people
[01:15] <RainMan28> Flannel: thought so too, just not sure what else to do
[01:15] <RainMan28> Flannel: I have 01-custom-header in /etc/update-motd.d/ set to: sh /etc/update-motd.d/welcom | /usr/games/cowsay -n
[01:15] <RainMan28> if I run that same command from the prompt it works perfectly
[01:16] <RainMan28> but it doesn't seem to be showing at login, instead it shows an old version of contents that were in 01-custom-header
[01:16] <Flannel> So, that's not a new file?  (which means it's likely already set to executable?)
[01:16] <logical> GraemeLion: ampro: what do you think about plexydesk?
[01:17] <logical> http://www.noobslab.com/2014/02/plexydesk-offers-lightweight-widgets.html
[01:18] <GraemeLion> logical: Never tried it
[01:18] <lastk> Is there a way to list a couple of versions of a package? I need downgrade my php version but I just know how to install latest version
[01:19] <ampro> logical: Yeah, I know nothing about it, but it does *look* nice from the screenshots I found.  Not much of a widgets guy, though, personally.
[01:19] <logical> ok, thx
[01:19] <ampro> logical: Can't hurt (much) to try it out :)
[01:21] <logical> well you could help me here, i already tryied to install it but i get something wrong, i will paste the code from terminal..
[01:22] <Flannel> RainMan28: Is the output present when you run `run parts /etc/update-motd.d/`?
[01:22] <daftykins> logical: using paste.ubuntu.com i hope!
[01:23] <RainMan28> Flannel: No command 'run' found
[01:23] <Flannel> RainMan28: Sorry, run-parts
[01:23] <logical> here http://paste.ubuntu.com/7177191/
[01:23] <ekodauhm> hi, how to enable direct render on a graphic card please ?
[01:23] <logical> daftykins: ofc :D
[01:23] <RainMan28> Flannel: ahh, getting some error messages
[01:24] <guest-ibyS7x> It said 'Do not take the name of root in vain.'
[01:24] <Flannel> RainMan28: Sounds that that's your reason!
[01:24] <RainMan28> Flannel: failed to exec /etc/update-motd.d//01-custom-header: Exec format error
[01:24] <depoop> Hey
[01:26] <ekodauhm> no help ?
[01:28] <RainMan28> Flannel: would the falling not be the right way to run a script in the motd directory: /etc/update-motd.d/welcome | /usr/games/cowsay -n
[01:28] <RainMan28> sorry, following*
[01:29] <Flannel> RainMan28: pastebin the whole 01-custom-header file, and the whole welcome file.
[01:29] <RainMan28> Flannel: ok
[01:29] <ampro> logical: Because of the "unstable" part, it sounds like that error is more meant for Debian.  What version of Ubuntu?
[01:29] <logical> 14.04
[01:29] <guest-ibyS7x> RainMan28, Where was the cowsay gotten?
[01:30] <logical> I would not try to install it if it didnt sayd: To install PlexyDesk in Ubuntu 14.04/13.10/12.10/12.04/Linux Mint 16/14/13 open Terminal (Press Ctrl+Alt+T) and copy the following commands in the Terminal:
[01:30] <ampro> logical: Well, still not released, so I'm not sure it's too unexpected for stuff to still be broken, repos to not be completely full, etc
[01:30] <RainMan28> Flannel: http://pastebin.com/NbWs1jJK
[01:30] <Flannel> RainMan28: You're missing a shebang in 01-custom-header
[01:30] <logical> ampro: i think its the ffmpeg part : The following packages have unmet dependencies:  plexydesk : Depends: ffmpeg (>= 0.cvs20070307) but it is not going to be installed
[01:31] <ampro> logical: Do you have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled?
[01:31] <RainMan28> Flannel: awesome, thank you
[01:31] <logical> ampro: how do i check that? i am littlebit noobish with linux
[01:31] <RainMan28> Flannel: that fixed it
[01:33] <ampro> logical: Yeah, just checked, and there is no ffmpeg in 14.04 repos (yet?)
[01:33] <Nname> How to fix nvcrtl extension does not exist
[01:33] <logical> ampro: seems like it :)
[01:33] <ax562> ampro: wow more issues lol
[01:33] <ampro> logical: So either it should be added in later, or the functionality has been moved to a different package and the dependencies on the plexy package aren't up to date for the change
[01:33] <ampro> ax562: What's up?
[01:34] <logical> ampro: ok, thx for your time
[01:34] <iHatei> hi
[01:34] <Flannel> logical, ampro: libav, see this transitional package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/ffmpeg
[01:34] <ampro> logical: So you could just wait until 14.04 is actually released and see if it works then.
[01:34] <ax562> now everytime I boot for some reason partition manager is looking for ubuntu on ext hd and not internal and errors out
[01:35] <ax562> since i'm running from internal hd
[01:35] <ax562> only way to boot into ubuntu is disconnect ext hd..smdh
[01:35] <ampro> Flannel: Nice catch.  I did the package search on saucy, but didn't read the actual description.
[01:35] <ax562> this had happened before in 11.04 but I would just disconnect and connect once in 11.04
[01:35] <logical> Flannel: which means? xD
[01:36] <ampro> logical: OK, so it is that the plexy package for trusty needs updating.
[01:36] <ax562> but 12.04 does not detect ext hd once os is booted up
[01:36] <ampro> ampro: wherever you're getting it from
[01:36] <logical> ok
[01:36] <Flannel> logical: ffmpeg won't be in 14.04, ffmpeg has been transitioned away from in favor of libav, so the thing you're trying to use that depends on ffmpeg will need to be updated to make use of libav
[01:36] <ampro> ax562: what do you mean by partition manager?  do you mean your bios?  the first thing that comes up before you get into ubuntu boot screens, etc?
[01:37] <logical> Flannel: ok, thank yo
[01:37] <iHatei> i need a rdp client that could run ito a windows server 2012. Not working with Remmina remote desktop client and the program 2xclient dont even wana run o.o im with ubunutu 13.10
[01:37] <iHatei> could someone help me with this plz
[01:37] <Flannel> logical: ffmpeg was forked, that's libav, I'm not entirely sure of all of the details, but they're somewhat related, just not identical.
[01:38] <Flannel> logical: Not that it helps your package woes to know that.
[01:39] <ax562> no I choose ubuntu from boot manager screen and it takes a minute and says cannot access root device and goes into busybox shell
[01:39] <ampro> ax562: so grub then?
[01:39] <ax562> i guess if thats what its called
[01:40] <ax562> this has happened before but 12.04 doesn't detect ext hd unless it is connected on boot
[01:40] <ax562> so if I don't boot with ext hd connected I cannot read ext hd from ubuntu smdh
[01:41] <ampro> ax562: something vaguely like this? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bDzu7DPwj0c/UFWOMUHR0pI/AAAAAAAAEvY/G3N7CnTBSjs/s400/Ubuntu+12.04+Boot+Menu.png
[01:41] <syadnom> so I'm testing btrfs on root, I install the system on a btrfs /, then I add the second device and balance.  This works great.  The catch is that now I can't install grub!  grub-install /dev/sda /dev/sdb errors out..
[01:42] <ax562> ampro: yes that is my grub that comes up every time I boot pc
[01:43] <ampro> ax562: and that's where you're getting the error?
[01:43] <ax562> ampro: the problem is i usually choose ubuntu which is first choice
[01:43] <balsaq> i want k3b to be ubuntu defualt burner-how do i make it default and autiplay
[01:43] <ax562> error after i make choice
[01:43] <ax562> it sits and processes and then says cannot access root
[01:44] <ax562> the problem it is looking on my ext hd for os and not internal hd
[01:44] <SonikkuAmerica> syadnom: "Not readable"?
[01:44] <ampro> ax562: Ok, it *sounds* to me like your devices are specified badly in grub.  They should be specified by device ID or something like that, which is a long randomish string of characters.  But they might be specified by drive number or something instead
[01:45] <syadnom> error: filesystem 'btrfs' doesn't support blocklists
[01:45] <ampro> ax562: so if there's another drive in there and it gets number 1 (which is why device id should be used in the first place, because the numbering can change), it will try to boot from there
[01:45] <syadnom> also, warning: your core.img is unusually large
[01:45] <ampro> ax562: let me google real quick and see if I can find you anything
[01:46] <ampro> ax562: haha, well here's something describing the problem https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-lucid-reliable-device-id-in-grub
[01:46] <ax562> ampro: it gives device id string 43809328-418-321-1 or something
[01:47] <ampro> ax562: what version was originally installed?  12.04 or did you upgrade to that?
[01:47] <ampro> ax562: is that what it says to boot from?  or is that what you're saying the device id actually is?
[01:48] <ax562> ampro: it says cannot access root from string 4-0234--4324-3
[01:48] <ax562> this also happened on 11.04 which I did a fresh install from
[01:51] <ampro> ax562: Well, i'll keep looking to see if I can find you a good site, but I think your problem is in how grub is configured, so I think that's what you should be looking into.
[01:52] <ampro> ax562: Not sure why it would be done wrong if you started with 11.04, since grub 2 was introduced earlier and I think that's when the device ids came in, but maybe there's something there.
[01:56] <tux_> havent tryed 14.04 yet
[01:57] <ax562> ampro: fyi I'm running a wd ext hd 4 interface usb, firewire 400/800, esata connected to a pciexpress esata module
[01:58] <ax562> ampro: it could be that ubuntu is confusing the controller in the hd drive with internal hd?
[01:58] <ax562> this has always happened even in 11.04
[01:59] <ampro> ax562: I don't follow what you mean.  Are all those things chained together with adapters or something?
[01:59] <ampro> ax562: And regardless, I don't think it should happen if grub is set up right.
[02:00] <ax562> ampro: No.  1 external hardrive that can connect in 4 different ways (4 ports).
[02:00] <ampro> ax562: Ok, and it's connected how?
[02:00] <ax562> I'm using the esata port to a pciexpress esata module
[02:00] <ampro> ok
[02:01] <ampro> and your internal is sata?
[02:02] <ax562> ampro: it could be some wierd bug.
[02:03] <ampro> ax562: Here you go, this sounds like what you're dealing with: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=166217
[02:04] <ampro> ax562: Wait, no, that's more complicated.  But similar idea.  Just not exactly a how-to for you...
[02:05] <ampro> ax562: In fact, that's pretty over the top.  But anyway, it describes the UUID and drive renumbering issue.
[02:05] <MaximumTimbo> Hey, has anyone been using 14.04? I was wondering if they fixed the screen dim bug?
[02:06] <Beldar> !14.04 | MaximumTimbo
[02:08] <RainMan28> is landscape-sysinfo not included with ubuntu 12.04?
[02:08] <RainMan28> trying to get some system info stats shown on login via ssh
[02:08] <ampro> ax562: Closer to you and maybe good enough to direct you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/171446/how-to-fix-the-uuid-in-grub-after-restore-from-another-machine
[02:10] <ampro> ax562: I'd go more or less with that first answer (the one with 7 up votes), but you probably wouldn't have to change grub.cfg manually since you can boot, so you could probably just use update-grub
[02:17] <jhutchins> ,v landscape-sysinfo
[02:17] <jhutchins> sorry, ubuntu.
[02:18] <ax562> http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv321/axockin/Screenshot-03292014-071541PM.png
[02:19] <ax562> ampro: do those partitions look correct why is sda5 under sda3?
[02:19] <MaximumTimbo> Is there a way to create power profiles? So If I want to switch quickly and easily between profiles on an indicator or something. I understand that I can make the plugged in or unplugged, but I would like to set up different profiles for the different things I do... Does this question make sense?
[02:19] <Beldar> MaximumTimbo, in 14.04?
[02:20] <MaximumTimbo> Beldar, 13.10
[02:21] <ax562> ampro: I don't remember how it looked before in 11.04 but I doubt this has anything to do with my problem its problem just a sloppy partition setup
[02:21] <Beldar> ah, not sure myself.
[02:21] <gcosmin>  Hi, could I have some help with chmod -R 777 ? http://paste.debian.net/90508/
[02:21] <MaximumTimbo> Beldar, I suppose I should just wait a few more days to see what 14.04 has in store...
[02:22] <ampro> ax562: yeah, that looks fine.  dual booting windows?  sda5 is under sda3 because you can only have 4 primary partitions.  if you want more than that you have to add "logical partitions", and they are basically subpartitions of one of the primary ones.
[02:23] <ampro> ax562: and no, technically you dont' really have more than 4, but i guess hte installer did that in case you wanted more eventually or something.  You can have a lot of logical partitions.
[02:24] <Beldar> MaximumTimbo, If I was worried, a image/clone of 13.10 would be my default before an upgrade. Or a just general backups.
[02:24] <ax562> ampro: just incase i wanted another primary I would have 1 primary slot left?
[02:24] <wmoxam> Anyone here every successfully mounted a FFS filesystem?
[02:24] <wmoxam> *ever
[02:25] <psusi> wmoxam, afaik, linux only supports it in read-only mode
[02:25] <ampro> ax562: no, if you wanted more partitions you could add them as logical partitions "within" primary partition 3.
[02:25] <wmoxam> psusi: that would be great
[02:25] <ampro> ax562: some resizing might be necessary, of course, but at least it would be possible
[02:25] <ax562> ampro: I'm only dual booting with a stock dell safety backup partition
[02:26] <ax562> windows xp, dell partition, ubuntu
[02:26] <ax562> but I have sda5 under sda3
[02:26] <MaximumTimbo> Beldar, How do you mean? For when upgrade time happens? I usually just store anything that isn't in the cloud on to an external and push it back on. As for software... they are all in the repositories...
[02:27] <ampro> ax562: sda5 under sda3 is fine.  I was just figuring you were dual booting because of the sda2 not mounted anywhere but taking up the majority of the drive
[02:27] <ax562> ampro: just wondering if that looks normal.  I ended up wiping 11.04 and creating new ext4 partition during 12.04 lts setup
[02:27] <Beldar> MaximumTimbo, We all use different methods, my point being just be prepared for any failure is all.
[02:27] <ampro> ax562: should be fine, and probably not the issue.
[02:27] <ax562> ampro: sda2 = windoze
[02:28] <wmoxam> psusi: AFAICT this should do it: sudo mount -r -t ufs -o ro,ufstype=ufs2 /dev/sdb4 /media/myuwmoxam/mymountpoint
[02:28] <MaximumTimbo> Beldar, Oh I'm with ya on that!
[02:28] <wmoxam> but no such luck
[02:28] <Beldar> MaximumTimbo, Additionally it sounds like you are, we just never know is all. ;)
[02:30] <psusi> is it just me or has the automatic codec installer that was once so nice not worked the last few releases?
[02:30] <psusi> it never seems to offer to install the right package to get the needed codec anymore
[02:30] <Beldar> psusi, Heh which one the 3rd party on the install tick?
[02:31] <owen1> i just finished installing ubuntu 64bit on thinkpad. i boot the laptop and i see 'Operating system not found'. any ideas?
[02:31] <Beldar> psusi, I just run the restricted-extras and the libdvdread stuff
[02:33] <psusi> Beldar, yea, I just googled that.. but a few releases ago the got it all sorted out nicely so when you tried to play a video and it needed a codec, it just offers to install it with one click... somewhere along the line that broke
[02:33] <ampro> owen1: not sure i'm able to help with that, but just to know, is ubuntu the only thing installed, or are you dual booting or anything?  And how many drives in the system?
[02:35] <viper474> Owen1: sounds like you need to reinstall the bootloader using the live CD/USB.
[02:35] <topinambury> hi all
[02:35] <ampro> hi
[02:35] <topinambury> could someone explain to me how is it possible that i can install ubuntu from usb stick on asus without any problems
[02:36] <topinambury> but on sony vaio for some reason i get
[02:36] <topinambury> no operating system present
[02:36] <topinambury> or something like that mmnt i check the exact message
[02:37] <ampro> "operating system not found"?
[02:37] <Beldar> topinambury, Handful of reasons, can you boot to the live again.
[02:38] <ampro> ampro: if so, owen1 is having a similar sounding problem with a thinkpad
[02:38] <ampro> talking to myself again...
[02:38] <ampro> oops
[02:41] <cisconinja> how to export gui from 13.10 terminal to windows 7 on a different machine
[02:42] <owen1> ampro: viper474 i hade debian on this laptop. i am trying to override it with ubuntu.
[02:43] <owen1> viper474: should i run it 'without installing' to get rid of the bootloader?
[02:43] <owen1> topinambury: got the same issue. let's scream together (:
[02:44] <ampro> owen1: and you have one partition (plus swap)?  did you install from a livecd or something?  basically, you didn't try to upgrade into ubuntu with a package manager or anything, did you?
[02:44] <owen1> on a thinkpad that had debian before.
[02:44] <owen1> ampro: i installed ubuntu from the official 64bit. it's live cd i assum.
[02:44] <owen1> assume.
[02:45] <viper474> Owen1: this might be helpful even though it says windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:45] <owen1> put the iso on a usb
[02:45] <owen1> viper474: reading
[02:45] <owen1> thanks
[02:46] <depoop> owen1: hey
[02:46] <owen1> what does it mean 'boot into a live session' ?
[02:46] <owen1> viper474: ^
[02:46] <owen1> depoop: ho
[02:47] <owen1> viper474: i have a usb with a live cd. what's my next step?
[02:47] <viper474> Boot from the install medium. Just don't reinstall
[02:47] <owen1> viper474: sorry. i am not sure what does it mean. i insert the usb, boot the machine. what option should i chose? install or run without install?
[02:48] <viper474> Run without install
[02:48] <owen1> viper474: ok
[02:48] <viper474> If you've already tried to install
[02:48] <depoop> viper474: hey
[02:49] <viper474> Owen1: if you don't have anything to lose, then full reinstall could work cleaner
[02:49] <owen1> viper474: not sure how to do 'full reinstall' according to the link u gave me i should run the live cd and install 'boot-repair'
[02:50] <cisconinja> can someone please assist me, i am running 13.10 on a headless server, i am able to ssh to that server. i would like to install VMware workstation 10. but wondering how to do it since i don't have access to the desktop on the headless server. is there a way i can access it from windows 7 machine?
[02:50] <topinambury> ampro
[02:52] <owen1> viper474: i am inside the live cd. should i install and run 'boot-repair'? or should i try the full reinstall approach?
[02:52] <viper474> Owen1: Yes, run without installing and follow the link if you want to recover the option to boot with data that is there currently. Otherwise, is suggest trying to reinstall from the beginning if you have nothing on the drive that you could lose.
[02:53] <owen1> viper474: but i already tried installing twice, and got the 'no operating system' message.
[02:53] <viper474> Owen1: we can try the boot-repair first.
[02:53] <owen1> ok
[02:53] <Pinkamena_D> hi all
[02:54] <viper474> Cisconinja: putty to ssh on Windows?
[02:55] <cisconinja> viper474: i have putty & secureCRT .
[02:55] <balsaq> i am trying to torrent and it s not downloading onto my tramsmission client?
[02:55] <cisconinja> viper474: so from windows i can ssh to my ubuntu , but i don't know how to get ubuntu desktop in my windows machine
[02:56] <ax562> topinambury: you have to have a bios that supports usb flash boot first
[02:56] <ax562> topinambury: does your bios support this?
[02:56] <viper474> cisconinja: there's something like x server forwarding, where you send the graphic over ssh to the windows system...haven't tried it in a while
[02:57] <ax562> ampro: this is my exact error http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv321/axockin/2014-03-29_19-44-51_63.jpg
[02:57] <willwh> cisconinja: yeah X forwarding should do it
[02:58] <ax562> ampro: I tried sudo update-grub
[02:58] <ax562> didn't help
[02:58] <topinambury> well there is option to choose usb stick as boot device
[02:58] <willwh> cisconinja: you need to enable in ssh config though
[02:58] <topinambury> i have put usb stick as first thing
[02:58] <topinambury> so it is supporting flash boot
[02:58] <cisconinja> willwh: viper474 but do i need to install any software in my windows ?
[02:59] <ampro> ax562: and that's the error after you changed things and did update-grub?
[02:59] <owen1> viper474: i see 'WinEFI detected. do you want to activate [Backup and rename windows EFI files]?
[02:59] <willwh> oh, windows, ah
[02:59] <ax562> no I only did update grub
[02:59] <willwh> hmm, I'm not sure how you enable ubuntu's bvasic RDP from the cli
[02:59] <willwh> but you could use that and VNC
[02:59] <willwh> let's see
[02:59] <ax562> I wanted to show you exact problem before I started modifying system files
[02:59] <ampro> topinambury: and that same exact flash stick worked on another machine?
[03:00] <viper474> owen1: hmm, that would seem correct, however I have not used the tool. Let me look at that webpage again.
[03:00] <ampro> ax562: Ok, so when you're fully booted, do you have a /dev/disk/by-uuid/thatexactlonguuidstring?
[03:01] <owen1> viper474: cool. thanks. i assume it ask me for backup of some sort. i don't care about any files, so my guess would be 'no'
[03:02] <viper474> owen1: well, the word activate throws me off
[03:02] <viper474> maybe it means enable
[03:02] <willwh> cisconinja: http://askubuntu.com/questions/4474/enable-remote-vnc-from-the-commandline should help :)
[03:02] <willwh> install tightvnc or realvnc in windows, to connect
[03:02] <viper474> owen1: that still makes me think your windows info is there, however I haven't used UEFI
[03:03] <ax562> ubuntu456@ubuntu456:/dev/disk/by-uuid$ dir
[03:03] <ax562> 07D8-050D			      75ba3c4e-71ee-4f25-8351-dfc2f55fe0bf
[03:03] <ax562> 0e3e4e98-1e6a-418e-9eb4-632f5c9d0434  8EE04C65E04C559D
[03:03] <ax562> ubuntu456@ubuntu456:/dev/disk/by-uuid$
[03:03] <owen1> viper474: http://askubuntu.com/questions/339410/unable-to-boot-ubuntu-13-04-alongside-windows-8
[03:03] <ax562> yes
[03:03] <owen1> viper474: it's interesting since i never used windows on this laptop, but maybe the debian never removed this part.
[03:03] <cisconinja> willwh: what aboe x.org
[03:04] <owen1> viper474: in the link i sent u he said to answer 'yes'. so i am hesitante.
[03:04] <willwh> huh?
[03:04] <ax562> funny thing is I just plugged in my phone and ubuntu auto recognizes and mount sd card correctly
[03:04] <ax562> but it will not recognize esata over esata pci express module
[03:05] <cisconinja> willwh: i was thinking maybe export DISPLAY
[03:05] <ampro> ax562: wait, this is a 4 way drive, right?  do the other ways work fine?
[03:06] <ax562> ubuntu456@ubuntu456:/dev/disk/by-uuid$ sudo cat /proc/cmdline
[03:06] <ax562> [sudo] password for ubuntu456:
[03:06] <ax562> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-47-generic root=UUID=0e3e4e98-1e6a-418e-9eb4-632f5c9d0434 ro quiet splash
[03:06] <owen1> viper474: i just hit no. it's installing grub.
[03:07] <ax562> It looks like it is looking for the right disk uuid
[03:07] <Beldar> owen1, save the url to the bootinfo summary
[03:07] <viper474> owen1: UEFI is a void in my understanding, but from what I have heard it i best to try turning it off before installing Ubuntu. Cool, we can see if it boots into Ubuntu after...
[03:07] <topinambury> operating system not found
[03:07] <topinambury> [04:58] <ampro> topinambury: and that same exact flash stick worked on another machine?
[03:07] <topinambury> yes
[03:08] <ax562> I can try usb 2.0
[03:08] <ampro> ax562: could you paste in your /boot/grub/grub.cfg ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[03:09] <ax562> I think back in the day i tried usb and it worked but it's horridly slow. usb 2.0 sucks balls
[03:09] <owen1> viper474: Beldar ok. rebooting. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7177471/
[03:09] <Beldar> !language | ax562
[03:09] <ampro> topinambury: strange...  are you sure the flash stick is the first boot device?  Maybe it's failing on something else before it gets to that?
[03:10] <ampro> topinambury: most recent bioses let you hit a different key to go to a boot menu instead of the full blow bios setup.  see if you can do that and select the thumb drive directly from there
[03:11] <ax562> ampro: http://pastebin.com/ipsGggC6
[03:12] <Beldar> owen1, poat that script in this thread, it is the bootrepair developers thread with people there focused on these issues. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[03:12] <Beldar> post*
[03:12] <topinambury> ampro: it is booting from usbg
[03:12] <topinambury> usb
[03:12] <owen1> Beldar: viper474 got the same error
[03:12] <owen1> Beldar: do u think i should try again but answer 'yes'?
[03:13] <jeffrey_f> topinambury: CD in drive?
[03:13] <ax562> topinambury: bios let you choose a boot order internal hd, cd/dvd drive, usb etc
[03:13] <viper474>  Beldar: how does UEFI work on that first partition?
[03:13] <topinambury> ax562: yes
[03:13] <ax562> topinambury: if you want to boot from usb, bios has to support and usb has to be the first in boot order
[03:13] <Beldar> owen1, You have a gpt partition table, so this is a efi boot, not many here really are up on this setup, use the forums as I suggest.
[03:13] <topinambury> bios even allows me to blacklist devices from boot order there is only one thing
[03:13] <topinambury> flash drive
[03:14] <ax562> it has to be usb
[03:14] <topinambury> that usb flash drive is only place where system is searched for
[03:14] <owen1> Beldar: cool. thanks
[03:14] <topinambury> so it is booting from usb
[03:14] <topinambury> but somehow it says operating system not found
[03:14] <topinambury> even the led light on usb is flashing
[03:14] <topinambury> as it is trying to read from it
[03:15] <ax562> I would check image on flash by booting into working operating system (windows) and make sure you have a valid image file on your usb flash drive by opening the image contents
[03:15] <Beldar> owen1, One of the areas people just trying to help without really being sure can mess up what can be fixed is all.
[03:16] <viper474> Beldar, owen1: I agree. Sorry we couldn't be much help..
[03:16] <owen1> viper474: Beldar no worries. i am surprised since i had debain on this thinkpad.
[03:16] <ax562> topinambury: I believe you need a modified ubuntu.img running on usb drive to be able to boot from usb drive.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong though.
[03:16] <owen1> i always assumed ubuntu has a good hardware support.
[03:18] <Beldar> owen1, Both debian and ubuntu have the efi shims, however if it were me I would wipe the partition table, make it msdos and do a mbr install, and have the bios set for that.
[03:18] <topinambury> ok people
[03:18] <topinambury> problem solved
[03:18] <ampro> ax562: topinambury  I think the same image works these days (it's called a hybrid iso) as long as you dd it onto the drive or something similar
[03:18] <Beldar> thank god
[03:18] <topinambury> it was advanced option in setup that said
[03:18] <topinambury> external device boot
[03:18] <topinambury> disabled
[03:18] <ampro> topinambury: haha, geez
[03:18] <topinambury> changed to enabled it started to work :)
[03:19] <ampro> ax562: I don't really know what to tell you at this point.  your grub.cfg looks similar enough to mine and seems to have the right root UUID everywhere.
[03:19] <jasabella> how do i tell saned what addresses to bind to?
[03:20] <ax562> ampro: I'm thinking it might be the timeout issue mentioned in error message
[03:20] <ax562> funny thing it works most of the time smdh
[03:20] <owen1> Beldar: sounds like a solid plan. how do i do that? boot into the live cd again?
[03:20] <ax562> maybe drive is hibernating and it takes more time to wakeup?
[03:21] <ampro> the thing is that grub is on that drive
[03:22] <ampro> ax562: so it can't really be that the drive isn't working yet or anything.
[03:23] <ax562> where could I find rootdelay?
[03:23] <ampro> ax562: I'm still confident it has to do with the drive numbering.  maybe the (hd0,msdos5) in your grub entries becomes wrong?  but i don't really know where to go next
[03:24] <Beldar> owen1, Is the ubuntu there now wipe able, no need to save?
[03:24] <owen1> Beldar: what do u mean 'wipeable'? i have nothing important. it's a new install anyway.
[03:24] <owen1> i just installed ubuntu on top of debian.
[03:25] <owen1> so my ubuntu has nothing.
[03:25] <ampro> ax562: not familiar with that.  and i'd honestly be surprised if that was it.  it might make sense if you were trying to boot from a drive other than the one grub is on, but you're not, so i don't see how that could really be the issue.
[03:25] <Beldar> owen1, cool boot a live cd use the link to purge the gpt and install to the whole disc. http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/wipegpt.html
[03:25] <ampro> ax562: but then again, stranger things have happened.  so maybe check it out, but i don't know about it.  google is the linux user's best friend :)
[03:26] <Beldar> owen1, I think you set legacy boot in the bios as well.
[03:27] <ax562> ampro: http://pastebin.com/fLnrq1SV
[03:27] <ax562> sdhci_pci 18749 0 - Live 0x0000000000000000 present
[03:27] <owen1> Beldar: reading.. thanks
[03:28] <Beldar> owen1, Cool, you can do a manual install after the gpt wipe, you just want all the partitions gone first, or written over.
[03:29] <ampro> ax562: I don't follow.
[03:29] <ax562> that is my external hd pci express module
[03:30] <ampro> ax562: not to be difficult - or thick! :) - but... and?
[03:32] <owen1> Beldar: the link u sent me is a bit verbose and confuses me (: do u think this is going to get me to the same goal ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/211477/how-to-remove-gpt-from-hdd
[03:33] <owen1> (removing gpt)
[03:33] <balsaq> can soneed help with transmission
[03:33]  * bet0x installed ubuntu on his phone
[03:34] <Beldar> owen1, Same process, you can use thast one if it makes more sense.
[03:34] <Beldar> that*
[03:34] <owen1> Beldar: awesome. it's easier since it's just the steps to follow.
[03:35] <owen1> Beldar: sudo gdisk /dev/sdX - which partition should i use?
[03:36] <viper474> owen1: sda
[03:36] <balsaq> when we try to download a file it doesnt offer transmission? oit asks choose some application but transmission isnt a choice??
[03:37] <Beldar> owen1, run sudo fdisk -l make sure sda is the HD, a usb boot some times reverses this, no partition just the HD
[03:37] <owen1> ok
[03:37] <Beldar> owen should be sda if not reversed
[03:38] <owen1> Beldar: i see sda1 have GPT
[03:38] <owen1> (using fdisk)
[03:38] <ampro> ax562: oh, sweet.  there's a #grub channel with a fair number of people in it.  I think grub's where your problem is at, or at least where it will probably need to be fixed.  see if anyone in there knows what's going on.
[03:38] <viper474> Beldar, owen1: yeah, sda is the drive. sda1, sda2, and sda3 are patititions for sda.
[03:38] <Beldar> owen1, you have it in the partition table that is sda
[03:38] <owen1> swee
[03:38] <owen1> sweet
[03:38] <owen1> now it ask me if i want to 'blank out MBR'.
[03:38] <owen1> (GPT is destroyed, btw!)
[03:39] <Beldar> owen1, follow the instructions
[03:39] <ax562> ampro: I was just checking correct modules existed and wasn't working mickey moused
[03:39] <owen1> ok. 'y'
[03:39] <Beldar> yep
[03:39] <owen1> ok. done. what's next? boot with my usb?
[03:39] <ax562> ampro: thanks for the help I will check it out
[03:39] <Beldar> owen1, How were you booted?
[03:39] <ampro> ax562: those are kernel modules, anyway, so would have to be loaded after booting from the correct device
[03:40] <grahamsavage_> hey xorg is going crazy on my computer.. 90% cpu...
[03:40] <owen1> Beldar: rigt now i am in live cd (from ubuntu 64bit usb)
[03:40] <ax562> ampro: I just connected through usb 2.0 and it doesn't even recognize hd either while in ubuntu
[03:40] <grahamsavage_> and another process called compiz
[03:40] <owen1> Beldar: i thought of rebooting and chosing 'install'
[03:40] <ampro> ax562: strange
[03:41] <ax562> ampro: yeah, I know kernel modules, but if they are present why doesn't it recognize after os boot?
[03:41] <ampro> ax562: actually, are you sure?  it's not in the shortcuts on the left of nautilus or anything?
[03:41] <Beldar> owen1, boot from whatever you are going to use to install with, and install over the partitions there. Go to the bios first and make sure legacy boot is set.
[03:41] <ax562> i'm on xubuntu
[03:41] <ampro> ax562: ok, thunar?
[03:41] <ampro> ax562: i guess i'm asking because when you hotplug something it will pop it up
[03:42] <ampro> ax562: but it doesn't do that when it's plugged in from the get go
[03:42] <owen1> Beldar: ok. so since i have ubuntu on a usb stick i'll reboot, enter the bios, make sure legacy boot is set, save the bios and install ubuntu.
[03:42] <ax562> ampro: it has now detected ext hd through usb 2.0
[03:42] <grahamsavage_> hmm i guess i'lll have to reboot
[03:42] <ampro> ax562: so i'm just making sure you didn't expect it to pop up on its own when it started out plugged in
[03:42] <ax562> connection was loose lol
[03:42] <ax562> ampro: no detection what soever was my problem
[03:42] <Beldar> owen1, Sounds good, I think you should be set, it should install and put grub in the mbr.
[03:43] <ampro> ax562: troubleshooting step one: check your connections :)
[03:43] <owen1> Beldar: perfect!
[03:43] <ax562> ampro: usb 2.0 worked.  I'm going to reboot and see if boot problem persists
[03:43] <ax562> ampro: that was only for usb 2.0 which I just plugged in minutes ago
[03:43] <ax562> ampro: esata has been an ongoing issue since 11.04 which would happen randomly
[03:44] <ampro> ax562: ok, but if you'd prefer esata, someone who actually knows a fair bit about grub - ie not me :) - might be able to help get that working
[03:44] <ax562> ampro: same exact issue in 11.04, no boot uuid present at root
[03:44] <ampro> weird
[03:45] <ax562> ampro: yeah, it's much faster interface.  Something like 8-12 times faster lmao
[03:45] <owen1> Beldar: in 'UEFI/Legacy boot' should i choose both, UEFI only or Legacy only?
[03:45] <ax562> looks to only happen with esata though
[03:45] <ax562> let me verify brb
[03:46] <owen1> my guess is legacy. since UEFI is windows-related.
[03:46] <Beldar> owen1, legacy only I would think. I also assume you ran the gpt right correct here, hehe.
[03:46] <viper474> owen1: I also vote for Legacy only.
[03:47] <owen1> +1
[03:47] <Beldar> gpt wipe*
[03:48] <owen1> Beldar: viper474 saved the bios and rebooting with the usb connected. instead of the menu for installing ubuntu i am greeted with : ERROR: no configuration file found. No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found! boot:
[03:48] <owen1> and i see a terminal cursur blinking.
[03:49] <Beldar> owen1, Make sure it is booting from the media.
[03:49] <owen1> Beldar: so go back to the bios make sure it boot from usb?
[03:50] <owen1> oh, maybe i deleted the content of ubuntu from that usb.
[03:50] <Beldar> owen1, That is one way there is also a boot from menu outside the bios. It is a prompt like you would for bios but different, the bios splash probably tells you it.
[03:50] <owen1> let me install it using usb-creator-gtk on my other laptop
[03:51] <ax562> ampro: back, no issue while connected to usb 2.0
[03:52] <Beldar> owen1, Once you get to a booted live desktop, run sudo fdisk -l it will tell you if the gpt is still there.
[03:52] <ampro> ax562: ok, well at least you've got that going if you can't figure out esata
[03:53] <Beldar> shold be gone but worth checking
[03:56] <owen1> Beldar: ok
[03:59] <Beldar> !away > megabit|away
[04:04] <Guest43963> ola
[04:04] <tommy_> hi all
[04:05] <Guest43963> como funciona essa rede
[04:05] <Guest43963> nossa
[04:05] <Guest43963> nunca entrei nisso
[04:05] <Guest43963> estranho
[04:06] <Beldar> !pt | Guest43963
[04:06] <tommy__> i am using ubuntu 12.04 on hp 6720S machine, my wifi driver is not installing
[04:07] <Beldar> tommy__, Can you identify the wifi from running lspci in the terminal?
[04:08] <suzana> oi
[04:08] <suzana> oi
[04:09] <tommy__> Beldar, Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 02)
[04:09] <Beldar> !broadcom | tommy__
[04:10]  * owen1 installing ubuntu
[04:10] <suzana>  boa noite
[04:11] <viper474> owen1: I am anxious to see how it turns out this time.
[04:12] <suzana> ..
[04:12] <owen1> viper474: (: i am amazed with the support on this chat. #debian is great as well, but i think the fact that there are 1500 people here makes a difference.
[04:13] <tommy__> Beldar, i got chip ID and PCI ID, and the driver is available in proprietary driver list, but it is not activating
[04:14] <tommy__> Beldar, sends me to a log file that i cant understand
[04:14] <jeffrey_f> tommy__:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-firmware-nonfree    THEN   sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43
[04:15] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: Obtain a wired connection first...
[04:16] <Beldar> tommy__, Not an area I have had ti mess with, the bits link mentions the additional drivers, as should work, and gives other options.
[04:16] <tommy__> Beldar, i got the wired connection but not very good with terminal commands, i do it step by step
[04:16] <Beldar> s/to/bots*
[04:16] <tommy__> Beldar, ok thanks
[04:17] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: the two commands stated a few lines up should start your wireless to work
[04:17] <baldpope> if I have two versions of automake installed - how do I select which one I want to be the default/system automake?
[04:20] <tommy__> Beldar, it shows warning for the last command that "All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release."
[04:21] <DrDigita_> anyone able to tell me how to fix this not found error? ./atlassian-jira-6.2.1-x32.bin: 466: ./atlassian-jira-6.2.1-x32.bin: /home/mmurphy/atlassian-jira-6.2.1-x32.bin.24518.dir/jre/bin/java: not found
[04:21] <tommy__> Beldar, should i reboot now?
[04:21] <Beldar> tommy__, I would ask jeffrey_f
[04:22] <Beldar> I assume you used thier commands, looks right
[04:22] <tommy__> ok
[04:22] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: are you on a wired connection for that machine in question?
[04:23] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, yes
[04:24] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: in terminal copy and paste sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-firmware-nonfree
[04:24] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, that i did
[04:25] <jeffrey_f> now     sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43
[04:25] <jeffrey_f> you should have wireless now
[04:26] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, i did that too but result came with warning
[04:26] <jeffrey_f> what was the warning?
[04:26] <tommy__> jeffrey_f,  "All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release."
[04:26] <owen1> viper474: done installing. rebbot
[04:26] <owen1> reboot
[04:27] <viper474>  owen1: crossed fingers
[04:28] <owen1> viper474: looks promising!
[04:28] <owen1> kvm disabled by bios
[04:28] <owen1> ubuntu logo
[04:28] <owen1> yes! yes!
[04:28] <owen1> login screen
[04:28] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: I'm researching...give me a minute
[04:28] <owen1> I LOVE U GUYS
[04:28] <viper474> owen1 Beldar: success. Good work.
[04:29] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, ok
[04:29] <owen1> Beldar: thanks guys
[04:29] <Beldar> no prob, enjoy
[04:30] <owen1> now i just hope that my hybrid approach is viable. i live in the console %99 of the time. so i plan to install i3 and wicd and remove network-manager.
[04:36] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, are u there?
[04:37] <brontos> Hey all, When I install ubuntu on my machine the installer and the trial part the displays load correctly (2 screens, correct resolution), after the install and when booting from HDD the resolution is low and will only show on 1 screen.
[04:37] <brontos> Any ideas?
[04:38] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: I'm looking.  I think that file can be renamed or even deleted.  Try renaming first      sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.bak
[04:39] <Beldar> brontos, Might need graphic drivers for resolution..etc, and the 2nd display turned on in displays.
[04:41] <brontos> Beldar, I can't turn on the second display in Displays, as far as resolution, there used to be a install restricted drivers app.  Is it still around?
[04:42] <Beldar> brontos, There is additional drivers in software & updates, be sure a update and upgrade are run first.
[04:45] <brontos> Beldar, hmm the drivers aren't showing up...
[04:47] <Beldar> brontos, Not an area I have had to mess with I have had intel graphics that just work. However here identifying the hardware is helpful, run lspci and name the graphic hardware with your inquiries for help.
[04:49] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, are u still there
[04:49] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: Yep
[04:51] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, i rebooted my system, hit for the additional drivers, but it still wont install it
[04:51] <jeffrey_f> you renamed the blacklist file?
[04:52] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, i dont know, how can i check it?
[04:52] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: ls /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:53] <brontos> Beldar, This is my drivers: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[04:53] <brontos> Beldar, Sorry hardware
[04:53] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, its still there
[04:53] <savr> hi
[04:53] <Beldar> brontos, You will need help from someone who knows the area better, is all.
[04:53] <savr> how do I upgrade to 14.04?
[04:54] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.bak
[04:54] <Beldar> savr, You want #ubuntu+1 for 14.04
[04:54] <funkyasss> good day
[04:55] <funkyasss> how do i install ubuntu on my android tablet
[04:55] <faqih_dan_kucing> funkyasss, you can install with Linux-on-android
[04:56] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, ok done
[04:56] <funkyasss> faqih_dan_kucing, it works with any tablet?
[04:57] <jeffrey_f> redo the previous ls....does it show up?
[04:57] <faqih_dan_kucing> funkyasss, yepz
[04:57] <funkyasss> faqih_dan_kucing, how does it launch?
[04:58] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, blacklist is gone
[04:59] <diuneigh> can anyone help me with DC++ on ubuntu?
[04:59] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: udo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43
[04:59] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: oops  sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43
[05:00] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, ok
[05:01] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: Any warnings?
[05:01] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, no
[05:01] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: see if you can get a wireless now
[05:01] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, where to check?
[05:02] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: should be a cone looking icon?
[05:02] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, no
[05:03] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, just up and down arrows side by side
[05:03] <jeffrey_f> are you logged into the gui or into a terminal only?
[05:04] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, same results, cant install the driver
[05:05] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-firmware-nonfree && sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43
[05:06] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: also, ensure that the wireless is not turned off via a hardware switch, AKA Airplane switch
[05:07] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, button is always orange and is not turning blue
[05:10] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: I'm vaguely familiar with the laptop you have.  I'm not sure if it changes when on or when connected
[05:12] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, lets hope for the best
[05:12] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: are you in the OS gui or a terminal only
[05:13] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, its gui and have a terminal window too
[05:13] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: do you have a wireless icon in the status bar?
[05:15] <tommy__> no only wired
[05:17] <i_need_help_my_f> i really need help
[05:18] <xangua> !ask | i_need_help_my_f
[05:18] <i_need_help_my_f> unopaste_: are you a bot
[05:19] <i_need_help_my_f> i need help recovering my password and please do not refer me to the "ubuntu password help thingy"
[05:19] <mapps> how can i upload a file from say /backups to /home/user/somedir using ftp in the cmd line? getting errors
[05:20] <i_need_help_my_f> ubottu_: i need help recovering my password
[05:22] <jordan2> mapps: if you have curl installed you can use "curl -T my-local-file.txt ftp://ftp.example.com --user user:secret" --superuser
[05:23] <AndChat27729> Ok i just upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04 and after restart im only able to get in grub rescue prompt with error symbol grub_term_highlight_color not found. Any sugestions?
[05:23] <i_need_help_my_f> anyone hello
[05:23] <Beldar> AndChat27729, #ubuntu+1 is the 14.04 channel
[05:23] <i_need_help_my_f> 14.04 is out!?!?!?
[05:23] <Beldar> no
[05:23] <kostkon> i_need_help_my_f, no, still beta
[05:23] <AndChat27729> Final beta
[05:24] <i_need_help_my_f> so how did he ubgrade?
[05:24] <i_need_help_my_f> oh duha
[05:24] <AndChat27729> You can upgrade
[05:24] <i_need_help_my_f> how
[05:24] <kostkon> i_need_help_my_f, you can manually initiate the upgrade
[05:24] <i_need_help_my_f> oh cool i had no idea
[05:24] <AndChat27729> Google it for manual upgrade ubuntu
[05:25] <i_need_help_my_f> but can we focus on my main problem
[05:25] <kostkon> i_need_help_my_f, give me a sec then
[05:25] <i_need_help_my_f> ok
[05:25] <kostkon> i_need_help_my_f, ubuntu password?
[05:25] <i_need_help_my_f> i have bin trying to recover for days
[05:26] <i_need_help_my_f> and yes
[05:26] <i_need_help_my_f> unix login pass
[05:26] <operaghostGK> you should boot it manaly
[05:26] <kostkon> i_need_help_my_f, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[05:26] <llutz_> i_need_help_my_f: boot into recovery mode, drop to root shell, set new password "passwd username"
[05:27] <i_need_help_my_f> i cant drop to root shell
[05:27] <operaghostGK> just a few commands
[05:27] <i_need_help_my_f> what?
[05:28] <i_need_help_my_f> onyone there?
[05:28] <i_need_help_my_f> 'anyone'
[05:28] <kostkon> i_need_help_my_f, what's your problem?
[05:28] <i_need_help_my_f> i need help reseting my unix login password but i cannot drop to root shell
[05:29] <kostkon> i_need_help_my_f, please read the how-to i gave you
[05:29] <i_need_help_my_f> i have tryed that method numerous times and it will not work as planed
[05:30] <qin> i_need_help_my_f: How it works, then?
[05:30] <qin> Just in time for a coffee...
[05:30] <heikohobr> I'm curious about tiling WMs, which one is a good starting point?
[05:31] <qin> heikohobr: xmonad, or less radical e17
[05:31] <i_need_help_my_f> i boot my pc. drop to root shell.(wich dose not work)i type in a command i forgot. then i reset password using password zsw.
[05:31] <heikohobr> ok, thank you
[05:32] <i_need_help_my_f> qin theres your explnation
[05:32] <qin> i_need_help_my_f: But in effect you managed to boot in text mode?
[05:32] <llutz_> i_need_help_my_f: "does not work" is not an explanation
[05:33] <i_need_help_my_f> yes it is and btw i gave an explnation
[05:33] <qin> so what do happens when you choose root shell from menu?
[05:34] <qin> does it ask for password? or just reverts to menu? or reboots?
[05:34] <i_need_help_my_f> my monitor zooms in about 200% and it says somthing like do such and such so so somthing
[05:34] <qin> see, llutz_, progress
[05:35] <mapps> i have a script that backs up some files and stores to /backups but i cant seem to get it to upload the file to a remote ftp i can only get it to upload te file if the archive is created in the dir the script runs?
[05:36] <weblordpepe> in your script you may want to ensure that its talking to files in the correct directory
[05:36] <weblordpepe> ya can do that in a few ways
[05:36] <qin> mapps: I suspect using rsync is way more sane, secure, and comfy than ftp
[05:36] <weblordpepe> you can specify the file's absolute path (ie /home/dude/documents/stuff/morethings/cat.jpg)
[05:36] <weblordpepe> or
[05:36] <mapps> i did cd testing once logged into the ftp which is ~/testing right - then i did put /backups/file FILE and it didnt work
[05:37] <weblordpepe> remember to put your filename inside quotes "
[05:37] <mapps> im already cd'd to testing dir once connected do i still need to put /testing/file ?
[05:37] <operaghostGK> is that something like this "grub <>"?
[05:37] <i_need_help_my_f> hello?
[05:37] <weblordpepe> if you have a file name like this: my awesome kitty cat.jpg
[05:38] <operaghostGK> it not root shell .it is grub recovery mod
[05:38] <N0byte> Help
[05:38] <i_need_help_my_f> anyone there?
[05:38] <mapps> ya needs quptes
[05:38]  * weblordpepe crawls out of a cupboard
[05:38] <weblordpepe> hes, i am here.
[05:38] <qin> i_need_help_my_f: operaghostGK talks to you
[05:38] <i_need_help_my_f> when
[05:38] <qin> just above.
[05:39] <i_need_help_my_f> oh well he wrong
[05:40] <weblordpepe> it helps to be polite & answer questions asked of you when you need help
[05:40] <q0> hello, i have problem with virtualbox saying VT-x hardware is not operational ??   I check with grep --color vmx /proc/cpuinfo   and it is there ! What could be the problem ?
[05:40] <pewdiepie_jk> anyone?hello
[05:40] <weblordpepe> whats VT-x hardware? thats a pretty fancy grep statement. colours & stuff
[05:41] <weblordpepe> pewdiepie_jk: whats the problem youre having?
[05:41] <pewdiepie_jk> i need to reset password but i try to drop to root shell in recovery mode and it no work
[05:42] <weblordpepe> oh i see i see.
[05:42] <N0byte> Online by phone
[05:42] <weblordpepe> cos when you put in recovery mode it asks for your password
[05:42] <weblordpepe> or ctrl-d to continue, sorta thing aye.
[05:42] <nname> I just bought a chromebook with only 16gb of storage. How would I go about setting it up to save all my downloads to a ubuntu server over the internet. VPN?
[05:42] <tinkerbot> mapps: hard to help without knowing your permission structure; any errors worth noting?
[05:42] <weblordpepe> let me think for a minute. i'm sure theres a cheap way of doing it.
[05:43] <mapps> no issues with perms at all...its just me being stupid i think basically say i run script a from /home/mark/bash it creates an archive and dumps it in /backups i want t then upload /backups/FILE to a remote ftp but i get errors
[05:43] <weblordpepe> are you able to log in at all? under any user?
[05:43] <weblordpepe> i'm thinking perhaps using a live-cd, and using chroot, and then changing your password.
[05:43] <weblordpepe> i think i can guide you through it.
[05:44] <weblordpepe> using chroot, you can tell any command to treat a directory of your choice as if it was /
[05:44] <Ben64> pewdiepie_jk: how does it "not work"
[05:44] <qin> nname: it kinda do not make sens to download to upload... but you have Ubutnu One, Google Drive and few other clouds for free.. or just use wget from server, or play with sshfs
[05:44] <weblordpepe> when you do that, and run anything (like change my password command) it will overwrite what it thinks is /etc/shadw and stuff.
[05:45] <weblordpepe> pewdiepie_jk: how are you on IRC right now? are you booting from a live CD or something?
[05:45] <weblordpepe> cos if you're on the computer which isn't working for you right now, it might be a quick fix using a chroot trick.
[05:46] <pewdiepie_jk> i use xchat
[05:46] <pewdiepie_jk> guest acount
[05:46] <weblordpepe> okay. if you type sudo, are you able to get root?
[05:46] <nname> qin im going to look at sshfs
[05:46] <weblordpepe> sudo su, for example
[05:46] <Ben64> weblordpepe: can't sudo from guest account, and you should never use sudo su, please do not suggest that
[05:46] <tinkerbot> mapps: which command are you using? if there's an underlying folder structure (ie. /backups/folder/file), wildcarding won't recursively upload. a single file should be simple in comparison
[05:47] <Ben64> pewdiepie_jk: what happens when you use recovery mode? that is the best/easiest way to reset a password
[05:47] <weblordpepe> Ben64: blow it out your ass.
[05:47] <weblordpepe> Ben64: if you were paying attention - he can't use recovery mode. he's in a guest account.
[05:47] <Ben64> weblordpepe: watch your language here
[05:48] <N0byte> Lol
[05:48] <weblordpepe> if he can get root via any means, the it will solve his problem. failing that i'll guide him through a chroot from a live cd
[05:49] <Ben64> sudo will not work from the guest account. the best way is from recovery mode, so weblordpepe - what happens when you try to use recovery mode?
[05:49] <pewdiepie_jk> ben64_" 去發生性關係你的鍵盤，你混蛋鼠
[05:50] <weblordpepe> he doesnt have a root password. and not being able to sudo is fine. we can try chrooting from a recovery account. but there aint anything wrong with sudo su if you're in a bad situation.
[05:50] <Ben64> sudo su is always a bad idea, please do not suggest it here
[05:50] <weblordpepe> recovery mode is prompting him for root password which he can't provide. the next step according to my imagination is to chroot from a live cd
[05:51] <Ben64> you're assuming way too much. he never said anything about a password prompt in recovery
[05:51] <orangepeel> I want to be able to put Windows 7 OS as well as Ubuntu on the same laptop. Is that possible?
[05:51] <weblordpepe> Ben64: don't be argumentative.
[05:51] <Ben64> orangepeel: sure is. best way is to have windows installed first, then ubuntu
[05:51] <weblordpepe> & for the love of christ - what is wrong with sudo su?
[05:51] <qin> orangepeel: yes, but Ubuntu need to be installed second, preferably
[05:52] <pewdiepie_jk> orngepeel_: yes look up dualbooting windows 7 and ubuntu
[05:52] <orangepeel> damnit
[05:52] <orangepeel> i have over 70gb of data
[05:53] <N0byte> Patient sir, use polite lang
[05:53] <orangepeel> The only reason for having Windows 7 is to play Casino Blackjack game
[05:53] <orangepeel> That's it
[05:53] <weblordpepe> about the only thing wrong with sudo from my knowledge is that it doesn't forward x auth.
[05:53] <llutz_> weblordpepe: it might not set a proper env for the root shell, use "sudo -i" to get a clean shell-environment
[05:53] <ryck> Where does the content for the music, movie and photo lenses come from?
[05:54] <weblordpepe> llutz_: ah right. well thats fine. but if he's on ubuntu, and only wanting to reset his password, shouldnt be a problem in this case.
[05:54] <orangepeel> should i be ok with windows installed second if only purpose of windows is to play casino blackjack gamr
[05:55] <Ben64> orangepeel: the problem with installing windows second is that it overwrites grub, you'll need to fix that afterwards
[05:55] <llutz_> weblordpepe: why using dodgy command, when a clean one exists
[05:55] <orangepeel> is it a cake walk or no Ben64 ?
[05:55] <Ben64> !fixgrub | orangepeel
[05:56] <q0> how do i move this friggin Virtualbox screen ? nothing's working
[05:56] <orangepeel> seems to be a pain
[05:57] <weblordpepe> llutz_: seems fine to me. sudo -i i mean. i'll probably use it from now on
[05:57] <weblordpepe> llutz_: but whinging about sudo so being a bad idea when someone's needing help - bad.
[05:57] <Ben64> you missed a key point, where sudo will NOT work from a guest account anyway
[05:57] <q0> unbelievable, they come up with the whole technology but they can't prevent the window control overrides
[05:57] <ryck> Where does the content for the music, movie and photo lenses come from?
[05:57] <weblordpepe> yeah thats fine.  i know that.
[05:58] <weblordpepe> not disputing.
[05:58] <weblordpepe> just dont treat sudo su like its the plague.
[05:58] <q0> traumatised corporate programmers
[05:58] <llutz_> weblordpepe: but it is ;)
[05:58] <Ben64> could you stop with that already? its not the correct way to do anything
[05:58] <weblordpepe> O_o
[05:58] <q0> what about sudo -s
[05:59] <llutz_> q0: read sudo man-page about the difference to -i
[06:01] <weblordpepe> funny, reading .profile, .bashrc or .login & the environment specific stuff like that isn't always advantagous
[06:01] <weblordpepe> did i spell that? probably not. sudo man spelling
[06:02] <llutz_> weblordpepe: thats why there are  -s and -i, both may have advantages in some situations
[06:02] <weblordpepe> i wouldn't use -i after reading through this
[06:03] <q0> so my suggestion is better apparently,
[06:03] <q0> sudo -s for the win
[06:03] <llutz_> weblordpepe: but generally, if you want a "real" root-shell, you want roots environment, so -i is ok
[06:03] <weblordpepe> yeah that is true.
[06:03] <geirha> sudo -Hs
[06:03] <q0> thanks weblordpepe
[06:04] <weblordpepe> however - root shouldn't have an environment of any worth if ya ask me :P
[06:04]  * weblordpepe checks
[06:06] <weblordpepe> wow so many join/parts. anyone know how to hide that in irssi?
[06:06] <mobicynal> Wow works
[06:06] <mobicynal> Mobile irc on
[06:06] <llutz_> !quietirssi | weblordpepe
[06:06] <weblordpepe> more parts in this channel than in a model aircraft carrier kit
[06:06] <weblordpepe> oh swag thanks
[06:07] <mobicynal> Brillient
[06:07] <weblordpepe> neat thats really cool thanks ubottu
[06:07]  * weblordpepe pats ubottu on the head & feeds him a wallnut
[06:07] <weblordpepe> :3
[06:07] <kostkon> !cookie | ubottu
[06:07] <Guest15270> | isn't here
[06:08] <kostkon> ...
[06:08] <Ben64> !cookie kostkon
[06:08] <Guest15270> You don't have any cookies to give!
[06:10] <qin> So where is the dude with no password? It was really interesting.
[06:11] <Ben64> i think it was a troll, based upon his response to me
[06:11] <qin> at least we have sudo su explained...
[06:12] <funkyasss> weee
[06:12] <funkyasss> :)
[06:18] <q0> is it a bad idea to log in to my microsoft student account when it is pirate version ? Is FBI gonna raid my house ?
[06:18] <qin> weblordpepe: it took me just half an hour to find, post #6 just makes it simple: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=874346
[06:19] <qin> q0: it is more for ##windows question, and likely in colision with quidlines
[06:19] <q0> i'll ask there then
[06:20] <qin> do it, me thinks they are also pubcly logged channel...
[06:21] <q0> i'll post my 8 inch dick there too then
[06:23] <mobicynal> Database is not easy getting into deep haha
[06:27] <__raven> 13.10: error infinite loop on login screen - how to repair?
[06:28] <Ben64> __raven: can you get in with guest account
[06:29] <__raven> Ben64: its not enabled. i am only able to login via tty
[06:30] <llutz_> __raven: "df -h /home /tmp"  any fs full? "ls -la ~/.Xauthority"  owned by you, perms 0600?
[06:31] <__raven> llutz_: Xauthority was owned by root that was the problem. tnx :)
[06:38] <pewdiepie_jk> +
[06:38] <pewdiepie_jk> it was no troll i found a sloution
[06:38] <pewdiepie_jk> ben64 no troll
[06:44] <akiva-mobile> so the dash searches the scopes, the hud searches the menu...
[06:45] <akiva-mobile> I am trying to think of a good name for a embedded terminal
[06:45] <akiva-mobile> something similar to the hud
[06:45] <akiva-mobile> the hut?
[06:45] <akiva-mobile> suggestions?
[06:47] <xubuntu> hi
[06:47] <qin> ted? Terminal Embedded in Desktop?
[06:48] <weblordpepe> qin: interesting. nice work
[06:49] <weblordpepe> also, this is my main technical issue at the moment with my debian install: https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t31.0-8/p960x960/135294_684504048258169_1177957858_o.jpg
[06:49] <weblordpepe> im having IO problems
[06:50] <Guest73934> just uninstall cat
[06:58] <Demon_Jester> Hey guys, if I want to set a "strict" level on a user in ubuntu how would I go about doing that?
[06:59] <cfhowlett> Demon_Jester, strict beyond "desktop user"???
[07:00] <dakotawulfy> would any one be able to help me on a a gtk3 theme  just to find out one thing
[07:04] <Demon_Jester> cfhowlett, I am sorry I mean ssh user into ubuntu server.
[07:04] <Demon_Jester> ssh user on ubuntu server*
[07:05] <weblordpepe> sorry, cat is installed to rom
[07:06] <JordanJ2> Hello, Can I install the KDE desktop with Ubuntu or would that be kibuntu?
[07:06] <JordanJ2> kubuntu*
[07:07] <cfhowlett> !server|Demon_Jester, ask the server channel
[07:07] <llutz_> JordanJ2: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop               then pick kde session at next login
[07:07] <JordanJ2> Alrigh. Thank you
[07:08] <cfhowlett> Jordan_U, to get just the desktop    sudo apt-get install KDE      to get the packages sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:08] <cfhowlett> JordanJ2, FYI kubuntu default packages are different from Ubuntu
[07:09] <JordanJ2> Okay
[07:10] <fa7ad> guys i'm fairly new with linux can someone build a few packages for me. i a noob at compiling them myself
[07:11] <fa7ad> besides they have long list of dependencies
[07:11] <llutz_> fa7ad: in most cases other people did that already, just search for ppa on launchpad with the stuff you want
[07:11] <fa7ad> there's a ppa but it provides the stable releases. i need the unstable ones
[07:12] <fa7ad> here: libimobiledevice.org
[07:12] <fa7ad> i need 1.1.6 but the ppa has 1.0.5
[07:16] <fa7ad> llutz_: ok i found a ppa that has the latest one but the dependencies are missing (usbmuxd and libplist). any help?
[07:17] <llutz_> fa7ad: find a ppa providing these... that's why ppas aren't supported here, it's a mess
[07:18] <fa7ad> -_-
[07:24] <helmut_> hi
[07:26] <BonkersCrazy_> Hey guys. Quick question if anyone is awake. I've just downloaded some songs for Frets on Fire, I'm trying to move those songs into the correct folder. Apparently, I don't have permission to do that. Any ideas on how I can get those moved?
[07:26] <rww> !cookie
[07:28] <jasabella> BonkersCrazy_... sudo mv ? heh
[07:29] <fa7ad> sorry guys i should have known. u guys are probably sleeping. its afternoon in my timezone though
[07:30] <cfhowlett> fa7ad, newsflash:  this irc is global.  so "anyone awake?" warrants the response "of course..."
[07:38] <KyouReeUs4nfo> fa7ad: dpkg-deb -b can build a deb package for you
[07:40] <linuxuz3r> omg ubuntu 14.04
[07:46] <mortal_> hello ubuntu
[07:47] <mortal_> anyone alive?
[07:48] <cfhowlett> mortal_, ask you ubuntu question
[07:52] <Guest97695> What could cause var/log/atop.log to rapidly fill up?
[07:54] <llutz_> Guest97695: check the content. most likely a misconfigured atop process?
[07:55] <Guest97695> llutz_: Ok. But the file seems hashed though.
[07:55] <Guest97695> llutz_: e.g. a 33 MB file of contents like "0000 0000 0000 332e 322e 302d 3539 2d67 "
[07:56] <alvtec> Can i install metasploit on ubuntu 13.10?
[07:58] <llutz_> Guest97695: "man atop" atop -r foo    to read the content. check you processlist for running atop-processes
[07:58] <llutz_> your*
[07:58] <alvtec> It says supported operating systems ubuntu 8.04, 10.04, 12.04, nothing about 13.10... will it work???
[07:58] <cfhowlett> alvtec, ask the package maintainers?
[08:01] <Guest97695> llutz_: These are my processes. http://pastebin.com/QfKnsY7W
[08:01] <Guest97695> llutz_: How should i interpret the atop-r output ?
[08:01] <thom_> alvtec, it should work just fine. Seems they only mentioned LTS releases.
[08:02] <llutz_> Guest97695: ctrl-c, q? idk, i haven't used atop much
[08:03] <lesnik_> Hi
[08:03] <seronis> how do i get UNetBootin to recognize a usb mounted external hard drive?
[08:03] <llutz_> Guest97695: but tbh, if you run atop, why don't you read about how to use it?
[08:03] <seronis> trying to turn my 500gb into a live installer
[08:04] <lesnik_> I've update the system to ubuntu 14.04 32bit. I've changed scaling-facor by the ui tool, and now have everything realy huge. Can't set it back to the normal size.
[08:05] <seronis> it wasnt visible in UNetBootin when it was formatted as ntfs, ext2 nor fat32
[08:05] <lesnik_> tried set it by gsetting
[08:05] <Guest97695> llutz_: Actually, it is not something i chose, maybe i can uninstall it?. It was preinstalled on my VM. Would like to know whats filling up the log files though.
[08:05] <lesnik_> but it has 4 value all the time
[08:06] <marrygrim> hi
[08:06] <yokobr> hey guys.... i'm getting a really low performance with my 1gb 7400m discrete gpu
[08:06] <cisconinja> Ok,so in my windows i have installed cygwin/X how do i make my ubuntu 13.10 desktop display in my windows
[08:08] <RaMcHiPTech> I have a noob question.  I am using ubuntu server and start running a miner through SSH.  How do I get the screen back if I lose connection to SSH?
[08:09] <llutz_> RaMcHiPTech: use screen or tmux on the server, you easily can reattach the session after a disconnect
[08:09] <guest-hscpth> What is on this system that connections keep redirecting to https?
[08:09] <llutz_> !screen | RaMcHiPTech
[08:10] <RaMcHiPTech> I attempted screen but could not figure out the syntax for some reason.
[08:10] <RaMcHiPTech> I attempted to attach to the PID through top
[08:10] <llutz_> RaMcHiPTech: screen -r
[08:10] <RaMcHiPTech> Thanks, I will try that again :)
[08:11] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  heres a guess http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLAYfwUPj7s
[08:11] <marrygrim> yokobr:  is your right drivers installed?
[08:12] <marrygrim> yokobr:  is your video card and software supported?
[08:12] <marrygrim> htop!
[08:12] <guest-hscpth> htop?
[08:12] <marrygrim> !htop
[08:13] <marrygrim> !htop | marrygrim
[08:13] <guest-hscpth> Why does htop make the http reset to https?
[08:13] <RaMcHiPTech> Thanks llutz_! Worked great
[08:13] <marrygrim> guest-hscpth:  https is more surcure
[08:14] <RaMcHiPTech> I dont know how I missed that
[08:14] <guest-hscpth> marrygrim, what is making it use https?
[08:14] <cisconinja> marrygrim: i got that, i want to know to get display the whole desktop
[08:15] <kafka> question, I am working at a place that uses a shared file system and therefor there's 1 server which they install all the apps on and the rest of the workstations are running it from the server. each user has a homedir with a small quota, Also the server has eclipse installed on it so every time a user is running eclipse from his workstation, eclipse is using quota space to store osgi/bundles and that maxes out the quota, now my question, is there any way to c
[08:15] <marrygrim> guest-hscpth:  im guessing its a default option.
[08:16] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  whats it doing now?
[08:16] <guest-hscpth> bazhang was able to switch it
[08:16] <guest-hscpth> marrygrim, so where is the option to change it
[08:17] <cisconinja> marrygrim: i am trying startx
[08:17] <cfhowlett> !server|kafka, ask the server channel??
[08:17] <cisconinja> marrygrim: i get this X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[08:18] <cisconinja> when i do xterm it works
[08:18] <marrygrim> guest-hscpth:  why would you need to change it? your knowing puting your self at more risk. do at your own cost.  atm no to you question
[08:18] <cisconinja> but i am really after startx , so that i get the full desktop gui
[08:19] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  what desktop are you defaulting to?
[08:19] <cisconinja> marrygrim: what do you mean please?
[08:19] <seronis> how can i get UNB to recognize a usb mounted external hdd when trying to create a persistant liveusb install ?
[08:19] <seronis> my drive does not show up in UNB whether its mounted or unounted.  and whether its formatted as ntfs, ext2 nor fat32
[08:19] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  what desktop are you using?
[08:20] <cisconinja> marrygrim: unity
[08:20] <guest-hscpth> marrygrim, knowing is not putting self at risk, it is allowing choice
[08:21] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  ok so say ssh is a door and untiy is overweight enough to have a little problem using this door
[08:22] <guest-hscpth> get bazhang on the line
[08:22] <cisconinja> marrygrim: hmmm yes
[08:22] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  is the connection over the internet or local?
[08:22] <cisconinja> marrygrim: local
[08:22] <guest-hscpth> bazhang was able to switch it off
[08:23] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  that imagitive door got a bit bigger  but the fat guy still has problems
[08:24] <marrygrim> seronis:  remount is a few times  if that dont work restart
[08:25] <d1rkp1tt> Hi All, I have hardened a server. And I am accessing that server via ssh. The keys were created on client1. Now I am replacing client1 with a new client, and want to move the keys over to access the server
[08:25] <guest-hscpth> co-operate
[08:25] <d1rkp1tt> Having only done this via a tutorial once
[08:25] <d1rkp1tt> Im having trouble give client 2 access
[08:25] <cisconinja> marrygrim: http://pastebin.com/2dDwES6v
[08:25] <d1rkp1tt> so far, I have copied id_rsa from client 1 to client 2 within ~/.ssh
[08:25] <d1rkp1tt> Any help would be appreciated
[08:26] <guest-hscpth> I am knowing and it is no more danger than ignorance.
[08:26] <topi> d1rkp1tt: you need to copy the id_rsa.pub also i think
[08:26] <guest-hscpth> co-operate
[08:27] <d1rkp1tt> topi, hmm not sure where that bad boy is
[08:27] <llutz_> d1rkp1tt: have you chowned the id-file to the user on client2?
[08:27] <guest-hscpth> I am going to make a cert authority on this machine.
[08:27] <d1rkp1tt> yeah
[08:27] <guest-hscpth> I do not want the others making https.
[08:27] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  heres a guess http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3GauE29eHA
[08:28] <guest-hscpth> co-operate
[08:28] <llutz_> d1rkp1tt: and you don't need the .pub
[08:28] <d1rkp1tt> llutz, Yeah I think that is the pub
[08:28] <d1rkp1tt>  maybe its ssh config
[08:29] <d1rkp1tt> to tell it where to look for the key
[08:29] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  there is a few differnet way to solve your problm
[08:29] <llutz_> d1rkp1tt: the foo.pub is the one being transfered to the remote site, not needed locally
[08:29] <d1rkp1tt> but I figure that location is default
[08:29] <llutz_> d1rkp1tt: use ssh -vv user@host             and check the output for errors
[08:29] <d1rkp1tt> ok, yeah makes sense
[08:29] <cisconinja> marrygrim: checking it
[08:30] <d1rkp1tt> Just permission denied (publik key)
[08:30] <d1rkp1tt> oh,
[08:30] <d1rkp1tt> but wait theres more...
[08:30] <d1rkp1tt> Its ignored because my permissions are too open
[08:30] <topi> d1rkp1tt: is the $HOME on client2 and see the permissions. Compare it to what $HOME is on client1.
[08:30] <d1rkp1tt> 0777
[08:30] <d1rkp1tt> ooops
[08:30] <llutz_> d1rkp1tt: chmod 0600 .ssh/*
[08:30] <d1rkp1tt> good plan
[08:31] <d1rkp1tt> thanks
[08:31] <llutz_> d1rkp1tt: chmod 0700 .ssh/
[08:31] <marrygrim> d1rkp1tt:  when you move "clients" the  new one will need a new key. but i seen a way to just "copy things over" and for the most of it works
[08:31] <d1rkp1tt> Im in
[08:31] <d1rkp1tt> !
[08:31] <d1rkp1tt> shot
[08:31] <d1rkp1tt> llutz, Thanks for that, you rock
[08:32] <d1rkp1tt> new dev environment set up on 13.10 now
[08:32] <d1rkp1tt> nice
[08:32] <guest-hscpth> Without choice there can be no virtue.
[08:33] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  hered another http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XzbJrfZ4ak
[08:34] <guest-hscpth> The machine needs to be cleansed.
[08:35] <llutz_> marrygrim: you don't need new keys on different clients, all can use the same secret-key. but for security reasons i'd guess it's better to use different keys
[08:36] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  just incase you didnt know there is a portable version  ,also i think you can use portableapps.com  too as the launcher.  http://sourceforge.net/projects/cygwinportable/
[08:38] <marrygrim> llutz_:  that you are right, but it gmama pc is action funny and her computer is a very low risk then you can if you will,share that key.
[08:40] <marrygrim> llutz_:  so if grandma pc is action funny and yoour the "computer help guy" in the family ,then  you can ust set to as the same or few master keys in rotation.  family calls you like once a month to fix their stuff. are you going to remember their passwords
[08:41] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  are you there?
[08:42] <fredrik_> I have a program that I need to start some 10-20 seconds after Ubuntu have finished started and with root-privileges like this: "sudo /usr/sbin/newcs.i686". I don't want to have to login myself to run this... How do I solve this?
[08:43] <llutz_> fredrik_: add it to /etc/rc.local
[08:43] <cisconinja> marrygrim: yes i am here , just trying to keep up with all the info you are providing
[08:43] <marrygrim> fredrik_:  google start up scripts
[08:44] <fredrik_> llutz_, Will it start it with sudo if I put it in rc.local?
[08:44] <marrygrim> fredrik_:  what are you trying to aotu run in the  first place?
[08:44] <llutz_> fredrik_: it is run as root, so no sudo needed. just make sure you add it above the "exit 0" line
[08:44] <fredrik_> ok.. llutz_ I'll try that.. thanks!
[08:45] <marrygrim> llutz_:  fredrik_  does he need to login as  root in the script?
[08:46] <llutz_> marrygrim: scroll up "run with sudo .. no user login ..:"
[08:48] <marrygrim> llutz_:  right , what if he needs to manually input a password in ?
[08:48] <llutz_> marrygrim: why would he?
[08:49] <fredrik_> llutz, It didn't work... where can I find logfiles over what went wrong when running rc.local?
[08:49] <llutz_> marrygrim:idk what newcs.i686 is, but if he just want to start that with root-rights, rc.local is one way t do
[08:49] <marrygrim> llutz_:  well if sudo is invoked then locigally a passkey should follow
[08:50] <marrygrim> llutz_:  ok
[08:50] <llutz_> marrygrim: rc.local doesnt need sudo, it runs already as root
[08:50] <cisconinja> marrygrim: so i am following his instruction and trying to run kwin & but i get this error "$ X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.kwin: FATAL ERROR while trying to open display localhost:10.0"
[08:50] <marrygrim> oh ok
[08:51] <llutz_> fredrik_: check /var/log/messages or syslog for any info
[08:51] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  the last part is because ur monitor needs to be pointed out
[08:52] <cisconinja> marrygrim: how?
[08:52] <ivano> hello
[08:52] <ivano> ibibio
[08:52] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=88883 if your doing this over ssh
[08:53] <ivano> search ibibio
[08:53] <RaMcHiPTech> llutz_:  Can I use screen in a bash script upon startup?
[08:54] <ivano> ffff
[08:54] <cfhowlett> !info ibibio|ivano,
[08:55] <cfhowlett> !info ibibio|ivano,
[08:55] <cfhowlett> !info ibibio
[08:55] <marrygrim> cfhowlett:  a setting or settings are not correct for what your doing
[08:55] <llutz_> RaMcHiPTech: yes, something like "/bin/su user -c "/usr/bin/screen -dmS mysession bash -c "/script""
[08:56] <cfhowlett> marrygrim, thank you
[08:56] <llutz_> RaMcHiPTech: check screen man-page for options, not sure atm
[08:56] <marrygrim> cfhowlett:  https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.os.linux.slackware/KwN7bWX8Qvo heres a few more clues
[08:57] <marrygrim> cfhowlett:  did you get it working?
[08:57] <cfhowlett> marrygrim, ivano see above
[08:57] <cheru> just joined...
[08:57] <cfhowlett> marrygrim, ivano was querying ibibio ...
[08:57] <marrygrim> cfhowlett:  huh?
[08:57] <RaMcHiPTech> I think I found it - detached mode. Thanks again for everything, this helped greatly and gave me more options!
[08:57] <llutz_> !find ibibio
[08:57] <cfhowlett> marrygrim, I wasn't working on that package - ivano was
[08:58] <marrygrim> cfhowlett:  WHAT? IS THAT A PERSON?
[08:59] <cfhowlett> marrygrim, he's gone ...
[08:59] <marrygrim> IVANO !!  SAY NO THANK YOU !?
[08:59] <bekks> marrygrim: Stop shouting.
[08:59] <llutz_> drop caps please marrygrim
[09:00] <marrygrim> bekks:  llutz_  sell you help someone , then they do have manners to even say thanks
[09:00] <marrygrim> dont*
[09:00] <bekks> marrygrim: Which is no justification for shouting around.
[09:00] <cfhowlett> !behelpful|marrygrim,
[09:01] <fredrik_> llutz_, Can't find anything in syslog. It does'nt indicate that the rc.local is runned at all. My rc.local look like this now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7178455/
[09:01] <marrygrim> bekks:  ok ok.
[09:02] <llutz_> fredrik_: tvheadend was started correct?
[09:02] <cheru> marygrim...
[09:02] <fredrik_> llutz_, Im not shure about the tvheadend program though. I start this program without sudo. Maby this has to be started as a user. How do I do that? without that user beeing logged in?
[09:03] <fredrik_> llutz_, no none of the programs where started. I can't find their processes att all. And I can't run their webfronts eather
[09:03] <marrygrim> so im trying to install  a bittorrent on a vps so i can the world of linux torrents how do i go about doing this? also if i can have a remote webgui that would be cool
[09:03] <llutz_> fredrik_: check documentation for that. you also should use full pathes in rc.local, /usr/..../tvheadend &
[09:04] <llutz_> fredrik_: does the newcs.i686 work correctly if you start it manually?
[09:05] <cheru> am tryn to unistall microsoft office from wine but it is giving some error reports ...how do i deal with this...?//?
[09:05] <fredrik_> llutz_, Well, the documentation for tvheadend does not state that it should be runned as root. And it workes just fine if I do a "tvheadend &" in the terminal after logging in. So I'm sure it workes without privileges
[09:06] <RaMcHiPTech> PERFECT!  Thanks much llutz_!  That really hit the spot, I have the miner up and running at startup now with screen!  I am loving ubuntu server on this Proliant 580!
[09:06] <fredrik_> llutz_, both programs work fine if I start them from a terminal. Im just doing it like this "tvheadend &" and then "/usr/sbin/newcs.i686"
[09:06] <llutz_> fredrik_: start it with "/bin/su youruser -c /path/to/tvheadend &" then, check with "pgrep tvhead" if it runs
[09:07] <fredrik_> llutz_, should I put that in rc.local or just test it in terminal?
[09:07] <llutz_> fredrik_: in rc.local
[09:07] <cheru> hey..how do u unistall a programme in wine using terminal?...
[09:07] <llutz_> fredrik_: the test in terminal ofc
[09:09] <fredrik_> llutz_, Can you find out where tvheadend is located? it's in my path I'm not shure where it is :-)
[09:09] <llutz_> fredrik_: "which tvheadend"
[09:09] <cheru> lllutz_..how do u unistall a programme in wine using terminal?...
[09:09] <fredrik_> llutz_, nice.. One moment.. I'll try this
[09:10] <llutz_> cheru: ask the channel, or in (#)#winehq
[09:11] <cheru> if i unistall the whole app>wine the apps inside will also be removed amin the wine apps...
[09:12] <fredrik_> llutz_, rebooting brb
[09:12] <marrygrim> so im trying to install  a bittorrent on a vps so i can the world of linux torrents how do i go about doing this? also if i can have a remote webgui that would be cool
[09:13] <llutz_> marrygrim: i've used rtorrent before, but i'm not sure about a webgui for that
[09:14] <llutz_> marrygrim: apt-cache search torrent|less          pick what you like and check if it is what you want
[09:15] <fredrik_> llutz, heureka! Tvheadend worked! Now, just newcs left
[09:15] <marrygrim> llutz_:  rtoorent i have not much of an idea.
[09:15] <llutz_> fredrik_: still no luck?
[09:15] <llutz_> fredrik_: does it need tvheadend running for start?
[09:15] <fredrik_> I commented out newcs part in rc.local .. will do another reboot now...
[09:16] <fredrik_> llutz_, nope.. it does not
[09:16] <llutz_> fredrik_: ok, so "/usr/sbin/newcs.i686 &"
[09:16] <marrygrim> llutz_:  can you help me with this?
[09:17] <fredrik_> llutz_, yepp.. rebooting again.. brb
[09:17] <kodos992> hello
[09:17] <llutz_> marrygrim: there are lots of good tutorials about rtorrent online, like libtorrent.rakshasa.no
[09:18] <marrygrim> llutz_:  i have been staring at that and i have no idea how to even make sense of most of it
[09:19] <marrygrim> llutz_:  i have been staring at that for hours and i have no idea how to even make sense of most of it
[09:19] <llutz_> marrygrim: well, pick a different client then
[09:19] <fredrik_> llutz, IT WORKES! :-)
[09:19] <fredrik_> llutz_, thanks a million! I owe you a beer!
[09:20] <llutz_> fredrik_: glad to hear, cheers :)
[09:20] <fredrik_> probably tvheadend messed up newcs.. when I got tvheadend working the other just poped in!
[09:20] <bekks> marrygrim: 10s search: http://vassie.me/rtorrent-and-rutorrent-on-ubuntu-server-with-nginx/
[09:20] <marrygrim> llutz_:  google keeps giving me rtorrent results as the best one for a vps
[09:21] <marrygrim> bekks:  do i have to rebuild the code if i already have it with a apt-get rtoorent comnd?
[09:22] <bekks> marrygrim: what do you mean with "rebuild the code"?
[09:24] <marrygrim> bekks:  do i need to build rtorrent for souce as instucted in the guide if i already have it?
[09:25] <bekks> marrygrim: Did you even read the guide I linked?
[09:25] <marrygrim> bekks:  part of it along, fast reader
[09:26] <bekks> marrygrim: Obviously didnt understand anything then - the guide does not say a word about "manually compiling" or anything.
[09:36] <marrygrim> bekks:  how do i get this runing without the webserver? also how do i have it always running even after restarts
[09:39] <marrygrim>   how do i get rtorrent  running without the webserver? also how do i have it always running even after restarts?
[09:40] <kodos992> hello
[09:41] <nusenuse> Hello, quick question. Anyone know a good model/program to make network mental maps? Thank you
[09:43] <cfhowlett> nusenuse, look in software center for mind maps
[10:02] <timmytimtimo> i need help onhow to setup a private cloud with ubuntu server?
[10:04] <nw0519230> hello, i'd like to bring this one:
[10:04] <nw0519230> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/asunder/+bug/1298567
[10:05] <nw0519230> to the attention of the appropriate people
[10:05] <cfhowlett> !server|timmytimtimo, ask in the server channel
[10:05] <nw0519230> is this the correct channel to do so?
[10:05] <cfhowlett> nw0519230, you've filed a bug report?  that IS bringing it to the attention of the proper people!
[10:06] <no_gravity> Good Morning! When i put a script in /etc/crontab do i have to make sure it doesnt output anything on stderr or is stderr simply discarded?
[10:07] <nw0519230> cfhowlett: well, yeah, but i am not sure filing a bug for asunder will bring it to the attention to the people who sync packages from debian?
[10:08] <cfhowlett> nw0519230, bug team will direct it to the correct parties.  that's what the bug reporting system does.
[10:09] <TJ-> nw0519230: Have you emailed the maintainer?
[10:14] <nw0519230> TJ-: i have emailed the Debian maintainer which is listed over there http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/asunder, and asked him to update Asunder from 2.2 to 2.5. and he did. 2.5 is now available in Debian sid since a few days. but Ubuntu 14.04 LTS "Trusty Tahr" still only has 2.2, so 2.5 was not synced from Debian sid yet. would i need to email the Ubuntu maintainers which are listed on the page then ("MOTU developers" according to t
[10:14] <TJ-> nw0519230: As it's a sync from Debian you'll probably need to mail the MOTU dev mailing-list
[10:16] <johtso> I've added a PPA, but the expected package isn't shown when I run "apt-cache madison python-git", is there something special I need to do to ignore the standard source and look at the custom PPA?
[10:17] <pikimeister> check if the ppa is above the default one in the sources.list
[10:18] <pikimeister> and don't forget to apt-get update
[10:19] <johtso> pikimeister, I don't see it in /etc/apt/sources.list .. but it's definitely added because I see it in the output of apt-get update
[10:20] <TJ-> johtso: most additional repos are added in "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/"
[10:21] <TJ-> johtso: Also, have you done "apt-cache policy $PACKAGE" ... that will show all sources for the package. If the PPA version isn't there, then there's possibly a foreign architecture issue
[10:22] <snp_> Hi all, I want to do a  boot-repair, but I can't . It says the mode is on EFI system but not any EFI system detected. What does this mean?
[10:22] <johtso> TJ-, the PPA isn't there
[10:22] <TJ-> johtso: So you haven't added it then :)
[10:22] <johtso> (in apt-cache policy output)
[10:23] <pikimeister> how did u add the ppa? apt-add-repository ... ?
[10:24] <johtso> pikimeister, on a low level, I assume so, on a higher level, I'm using salt
[10:24] <TJ-> johtso: "grep -rn ppa /etc/apt/" to check if there is any sign of any PPA entries at all
[10:25] <johtso> TJ-, it's in sources.list.d
[10:25] <johtso> and I see it in the output of apt-get update
[10:25] <pikimeister> and is there a package available for your release?
[10:25] <johtso> and I have at least one package installed from that PPA
[10:26] <TJ-> johtso: OK, so the package isn't available from the PPA
[10:26] <johtso> but this one also happens to be available on the official repositories
[10:26] <TJ-> johtso: Check that the PPA has a build for the architecture, and release, of the installed system
[10:26] <pikimeister> it should overwrite
[10:26] <pikimeister> if its newer
[10:26] <pikimeister> the default repos
[10:26] <johtso> TJ-, strange, but I see the package here: https://launchpad.net/~saltstack/+archive/salt
[10:26] <johtso> python-git
[10:27] <TJ-> johtso: And what release is the system you're working with? That package is for Lucid.
[10:28] <johtso> oh damn, that'll be it then..
[10:28] <pikimeister> u can force it
[10:28] <pikimeister> if u really need
[10:28] <pikimeister> but that is your problem.
[10:28] <pikimeister> and you need to make sure you have all dependencies
[10:28] <johtso> cheers for the help, too many assumptions :)
[10:29] <TJ-> johtso: It's an 'all' build so no binaries, just scripts, but I'd think the Python version it requires might conflict with the version on your system(s), so you'd need to verify that
[10:29] <Haix64> Hi. How do I run the ssh server on Kubuntu 13.10? isn't it supposed to be "service ssh start"?
[10:29] <johtso> ah okay, so there's a chance I could just force install it without any issues
[10:30] <jasabella> how do i get cups to bind to a ipv6 LAN address only?
[10:31] <cfhowlett> johtso, "force" pretty much implies issues to one degree or another ...
[10:31] <TJ-> johtso: It looks like abandon-ware
[10:32] <johtso> TJ-, yeah, it's a dependency of the salt project, and they're looking to switch to something else ASAP
[10:32] <TJ-> johtso: I know; that's one of the things I got annoyed by
[10:33] <adrenalink> Hello! I can't boot from Live Ubuntu 12.04. My notebook is an Acer e1-522. Any suggestion?
[10:33] <g105b> My laptop is a new intel chip, 64 bit. Should I install the intel i386 or AMD64 Ubuntu image?
[10:33] <pikimeister> g105b, ram?
[10:34] <g105b> pikimeister: 8GB
[10:34] <pikimeister> amd64
[10:34] <jasabella> 64bit then :)
[10:34] <g105b> how do you know?
[10:34] <jasabella> 32bit machines dont like >4gb ram
[10:34] <TJ-> adrenalink: What does "can't boot" actually mean? Please describe the symptoms precisely
[10:34] <pikimeister> i386 is for old machines with few ram, it used 3,2GB of RAM for operating sistem only.
[10:35] <g105b> aha ok. So is the decision purely on how much ram there is?
[10:35] <pikimeister> so you won't be using your ram properly
[10:35] <pikimeister> if u go with that.
[10:35] <pikimeister> as long as your cpu is 64bit
[10:35] <pikimeister> 64 is the choice nowadays
[10:35] <g105b> ah cool thanks.
[10:36] <pikimeister> less than 3GB Ram -> i386
[10:36] <TJ-> g105b: Not entirely, but using 64bit means the physical address space doesn't present limitations that have to be worked around using PAE. 64-bit CPUs also have many more, larger, registers which makes many applications execute slightly faster
[10:36] <adrenalink> TJ-  Ubuntu seems to start. It pass the screen with the Ubuntu charger, but end with a black window or a white window
[10:37] <g105b> Thanks for the concise information TJ- pikimeister jasabella
[10:37] <TJ-> adrenalink: I think we had an issue with the same model a few days ago; the workaround was the usual: add "nomodeset" to the kernel command-line options at the boot menu where you see "Try Ubuntu"
[10:38] <adrenalink> with Ubuntu 12.04 live I don't see Try ubuntu. It starts automatically
[10:38] <TJ-> adrenalink: So long since I used that live ISO thought I can't give you exact instructions on keys to press to edit the kernel command-line
[10:38] <adrenalink> I found on the web F6
[10:38] <TJ-> adrenalink: It does? Hmmm...  so long since I used 12.04 ISO!
[10:39] <adrenalink> but it opens a little window with no visible options
[10:39] <adrenalink> could it be a problem with UEFI?
[10:40] <TJ-> adrenalink: Comment 5 in this question shows the screen I'm referring to, and how to get to it:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/129116/12-04-wont-boot-from-live-cd-or-usb
[10:40] <TJ-> adrenalink: UEFI should be using CSM/legacy mode to start the ISO
[10:41] <TJ-> adrenalink: Also, the obvious question: have you done a "Check disk for defects" or compared the checksum of the ISO image with the published checksum - that will prove if there might be corruption of the image itself
[10:42] <tez36887> hello world
[10:43] <tez36887> hi
[10:43] <tez36887> hello
[10:43] <cfhowlett> tez36887, what is your ubuntu question?
[10:43] <tez36887> i dont have one
[10:43] <adrenalink> TJ- I installed Ubuntu on another PC with the same USB stick (same Ubuntu over it), so it should be ok.
[10:43] <cfhowlett> !topic > tez36887,
[10:44] <tez36887> i am new to this, and no nothing
[10:44] <anto> SALVE
[10:44] <adrenalink> TJ- I can access that screen, But when I type each possible option, I obtain only the raw option pane (  a grey structure, scrollable, but with NO options... it seems to be a bug)
[10:45] <tez36887> Long live LINUX!!
[10:45] <cfhowlett> !ot|tez36887,
[10:46] <tez36887> so am i in the sh!t?
[10:46] <cfhowlett> tez36887, profanity is not acceptable.  stop.
[10:46] <tez36887> sorry
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> tez36887  did you have an ubuntu support question?
[10:46] <tez36887> no, i am just learning how to use this irc system
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> tez36887  great, then type /join #ubuntu-ot, but behave there, too
[10:47] <tez36887> i would like to know how to speed up graphics on the system though
[10:48] <TJ-> adrenalink: Sounds like a problem if the display isn't being rendered at all
[10:48] <tez36887> theres no one in that chat
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> tez36887  i mistyped, it's #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:49] <ocooel> How much difference will there be installing 13.10 64bit instead of 32bit when the laptop only has 4GB ram
[10:49] <bekks> ocooel: choose 64bit if your hardware is capable of 64bit.
[10:49] <cfhowlett> ocooel, your system will support 64 bit so there's no reason NOT to run it.
[10:50] <ocooel> bekks, cfhowlett, main concern is installation of google earth
[10:50] <bekks> Why is that a concern at all?
[10:51] <adrenalink> TJ- How can I solve it?
[10:51] <ocooel> bekks, attempt to do it on an another system failed due to dependancy issue and 32bit stable version installs but didn't launch
[10:51] <cfhowlett> ocooel, google earth will run on 64 bit
[10:52] <TJ-> adrenalink: As I said, my first step would be to confirm the image it is booting has the correct checksum, to rule out possible corruption. If that is OK, I'd then run the "Test Memory" option, then I'd go back to adding the "nomodeset" option, since that is the usually the culprit for black-screen issues (incorrect modes are selected)
[10:53] <adrenalink> TJ- How to check the usb stick?
[10:53] <ocooel> bekks, cfhowlett, used both methods without success http://askubuntu.com/questions/366438/how-to-install-google-earth-64bit-in-ubuntu-13-10-ia32-libs-dependency-error and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth
[10:55] <bekks> ocooel: The latter cannot be used anymore, since the medibuntu ppa is offline.
[10:55] <cfhowlett> bekks, actually medibuntu is dead.
[10:55] <bekks> ocooel: And what exactly didnt work with the first?
[10:55] <bekks> cfhowlett: yeah.
[10:57] <ocooel> bekks, attempt was to download 32bit .deb and install package lsb-core then install .deb with gdebi. This method didn't work. The first method launched, then closed before loading layers.
[10:57] <TJ-> adrenalink: If you wrote the ISO to the USB, you can unmount it, then do "md5sum /dev/sdX" where X is the USB's device letter. Then compare that with the published MD5 checksums on the download pages
[10:58] <bekks> ocooel: And did you start it in a terminal to actually see see error?
[10:58] <ocooel> bekks, how can I do that for you to look at?
[10:59] <ocooel> bekks, just use the terminal to open the program?
[11:01] <TJ-> adrenalink: Or, you can use the live image's own "Check disc for defects" option
[11:02] <bekks> ocooel: open a terminal, and start the application from terminal.
[11:03] <ocooel> bekks, one minute
[11:05] <ocooel> bekks,
[11:05] <ocooel> bekks, brother is using internet and slowed me google earth download :-(
[11:06] <adrenalink> TJ- I I checked the .iso and it's ok. I am also checking the usb but it does not seems to work...
[11:07] <adrenalink> TJ- (I also found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/152847/how-to-access-boot-options-12-04-live-usb  The problem I have is described in the comments of the first response)
[11:08] <adrenalink> TJ- Finish usb checksum. It is completely different from the Ubuntu 12.04 one. ( f04c6b4dc5dd5f5fd9aa84c446bab13a  )
[11:09] <bekks> adrenalink: how did you create the usb, just by using dd?
[11:09] <cfhowlett> adrenalink, then you did not get a good download.
[11:09] <adrenalink> TJ- No, using the program in Ubuntu (disk creator)
[11:09] <bekks> adrenalink: then you cant compare tghe checksums at all. :)
[11:09] <cfhowlett> adrenalink, are you checking the downloaded ISO or the USB ?
[11:10] <cfhowlett> !md5sum
[11:10] <adrenalink> I checked both
[11:10] <adrenalink> the .is is ok
[11:10] <adrenalink> the usb not
[11:10] <bekks> adrenalink: the usb cannot be ok at all :)
[11:10] <adrenalink> I compared with the Ubuntu 12.04 official
[11:10] <cfhowlett> adrenalink, you doin it wrong
[11:10] <adrenalink> that is what TJ- said to me...
[11:11] <bekks> adrenalink: the disk creator does not copy the iso to the usb, but extracts it, modifies files, etc.
[11:11] <adrenalink> beeks: yes of course!
[11:11] <adrenalink> so?
[11:11] <bekks> adrenalink: so the checksum will differ. Obviously.
[11:11] <cfhowlett> adrenalink, go to the link and see "check the CD" section.  yes, you have a USB not a CD but similar process
[11:12] <cfhowlett> adrenalink, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#Check_the_CD
[11:16] <trijntje> I'm trying to figure out whicih usb-ports on my pc are usb-2 using lsusb, but I've tried every usb port on my pc and none register  at
[11:16] <trijntje> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[11:16] <trijntje> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[11:16] <Behi> Hi, why in some preseed.cfg files, the same line appears multiple times? For example, "d-i partman-lvm/confirm boolean true" is repeated two times here: https://github.com/flomotlik/packer-example/blob/master/http/preseed.cfg
[11:26] <bekks> Behi: thats a good question for the author of that file.
[11:26] <MaxFrames> hi
[11:26] <Behi> bekks I assume that is redundant, right?
[11:27] <Behi> I have a feeling most of these preseed files are copy pasted without much care an attention
[11:28] <MaxFrames> ubuntu 13.10 cuts some dozen pixels on my external hdmi tv, I have a dual screen setup where the main display is my lcd monitor (dvi) and the secondary display is my fullhd tv (hdmi), both are 1920x1080, but whatever I set the resolution to on my tv, it always cuts the top,bottom,right and left borders
[11:28] <MaxFrames> kubuntu 13.10 does the same thing so it's definitely *ubuntu's fault, no problems with windows
[11:30] <MaxFrames> I've read on the forums that I should set the tv's offset parameters, but #1 they are not configurable on my tv and #2 the problem is just with ubuntu, if the tv wasn't able to display a 1920x1080 picture over hdmi I would have the same problem on all OS's
[11:33] <TJ-> MaxFrames: On Windows, did you install drivers specific to the TV?
[11:37] <thom_> Maxframes, do you have the screens mirrored?
[11:37] <MaxFrames> TJ-: no, just the ati catalyst drivers
[11:38] <adrenalink> beeks cfhowlett : I used the instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#Check_the_CD. It says:
[11:38] <adrenalink> checksum for input image: c7f439e864d28d9e5ca2aa885c4ec4cb
[11:38] <adrenalink> checksum for output disk: d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e
[11:38] <adrenalink> verification failed!
[11:38] <TJ-> MaxFrames: The usual cause is that the TV provides an incorrect EDID so the OS has to guess at the modelines that the TV will accept
[11:38] <thom_> adrenalink, what seems to be your problem?
[11:38] <cfhowlett> adrenalink, you still doin it wrong, son...
[11:38] <cfhowlett> adrenalink, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#Check_the_CD
[11:38] <cfhowlett> THIS is how you check your USB
[11:38] <MaxFrames> TJ-: from the users's perspective, given that if I can't fix this I will not switch from xp to ubuntu like I'd planned.... how do I fix it?
[11:39] <adrenalink> cfhowlett: I used the script listed in that page
[11:40] <adrenalink> (in the section you linked)
[11:40] <cfhowlett> adrenalink, so you're saying the downloaded ISO checksums don't match = bad download.  use torrents instead of direct download.
[11:41] <rypervenche> MaxFrames: There is almost always a fix in Linux, it's simply a matter of finding it. Be sure to give it a good try. Don't give up too easily.
[11:41] <TJ-> MaxFrames: The only way I know of is to try to obtain the correct modelines from the Windows side, and use those for the X server. Have you looked at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" to see if/what the X server and graphics drivers is being told/finding out about the display?
[11:41] <adrenalink> cfhowlett: NO. I said the downloaded iso match the checksum given here http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/MD5SUMS
[11:41] <MaxFrames> so far I've only tried the live cd
[11:41] <MaxFrames> I'm reluctant to commit the OS to the hdd if I'm not sure I can fix all the most prominent issues
[11:41] <adrenalink> The USB checksum (which I check using the script I said) does not match.
[11:42] <adrenalink> SO I think I have to recreate the USB
[11:42] <TJ-> MaxFrames: pastebin the file I mentioned, lets see what the OS discovered
[11:42] <thom_> MaxFrames, booting from a live cd will not give you the best results for a dual monitor setup. I installed a Linux distro on a friends desktop that was running XP. It was buggy before it was installed. After the install it worked fine.
[11:42] <MaxFrames> well I can't now, because I've only have this single PC, and I've booted windows now
[11:42] <cybrNaut> Behi: preseed files are very touchy.  they are not merely configuration files, and order seems to be important.  In debian I've removed lines from a preseed.cfg, and it caused an infinite loop (iow, the installer is not smart enough to ask the user when data is omitted)
[11:42] <cfhowlett> adrenalink, instead of script, check the USB directly
[11:42] <MaxFrames> so what I can do is install ubuntu, then come back here
[11:43] <adrenalink> it's the same thing...
[11:43] <MaxFrames> I will need guidance step by step, I'm afraid
[11:43] <rypervenche> MaxFrames: You could shrink your NTFS partition, install Ubuntu side by side with Windows to test this out then remove them both and use only Ubuntu.
[11:43] <thom_> MaxFrames, it's super easy to install Ubuntu.
[11:43] <cfhowlett> adrenalink, can't be.  checking CD directly does NOT give a checksum hash output
[11:43] <MaxFrames> I have a whole hdd to devote to ubuntu , 200 gb
[11:43] <TJ-> adrenalink: If you're checksumming the entire USB device, and it is bigger than the ISO image (as it will be 99.99% of the time!) then the checksums will end up different. You need to limit the range of the checksum to the exact same number of bytes as are in the ISO image
[11:43] <MaxFrames> I want to keep xp on hdd1 and install ubuntu on hdd2
[11:44] <MaxFrames> and I want to be able to choose which to boot every time
[11:44] <nw0519230> MaxFrames: what TV do you have= manufacturer and model? what you describe sounds like as if overscan is turned on on your TV
[11:44] <cfhowlett> adrenalink, scratch that . .. let me read more
[11:44] <MaxFrames> it's a panasonic viera something
[11:45] <nw0519230> MaxFrames: exact model please :)
[11:45] <MaxFrames> when I install ubuntu, other than choosing to install on the blank hdd, where do I tell it to put grub? on the first hdd (the one with windows xp) or on the second hdd (the one with ubuntu)?
[11:46] <MaxFrames> panasonic is so smart that they didn't write the model anywhere :/
[11:46] <rayaan> how can i get the latest version of emacs in ubuntu ( apt-get install emacs24 installs 24.1.1) the latest stable version is 24.3
[11:46] <rayaan> ?
[11:46] <MaxFrames> I would have to dig out the manual
[11:46] <nw0519230> MaxFrames: look at the back of the TV
[11:46] <MaxFrames> it's screwed to the wall... it's a 42" plasma
[11:47] <MaxFrames> what about grub anyway, where would it go? hdd1 or hdd2? the installer lets me choose any
[11:47] <MaxFrames> _either_
[11:48] <MaxFrames> I'm a bit confused because I'd used ubuntu in wubi mode before
[11:48] <nw0519230> MaxFrames: how old is it and are you from the US or from EU?
[11:48] <MaxFrames> this time I don't want to use wubi, I want to give ubuntu its own hdd and use ext4
[11:48] <MaxFrames> but the installer doesn't clearly distinguish.... I can only choose to use ubuntu alongside windows, or replace windows
[11:49] <MaxFrames> I want to use it alongside, but not with wubi
[11:49] <MaxFrames> I'm in EU anyway and the tv is from 2009
[11:49] <nw0519230> MaxFrames: ok, wait a sec :)
[11:49] <thom_> MaxFrames, did you boot into the dvd/usb?
[11:49] <adrenalink> TJ-  cfhowlett I don't know exactly if the script in this section https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#Check_the_CD check only the number of bytes of the ISO, however I also tried this command:
[11:49] <adrenalink> sudo dd if=/dev/sdc1 bs=2048 count=375296 | md5sum
[11:49] <adrenalink> and the checksum is ( 94d39f583724c395446717be34077844 ) different from the UBuntu12.04 release one
[11:50] <TJ-> adrenalink: which exact ISO did you download? can you give me the filename, then I can check on the download page
[11:50] <adrenalink> I used ls -l ubuntu-12.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso the know the size of che ISO
[11:50] <TJ-> adrenalink: thanks
[11:50] <MaxFrames> ok, it's a panasonic tx-p42s10e or tx-p42s10es
[11:51] <MaxFrames> thom_: I booted the dvd, and looked at the install choices
[11:51] <MaxFrames> it gave me those two, I expected three (wubi, dual boot, replace windows)
[11:52] <MaxFrames> I want dual boot
[11:52] <TJ-> adrenalink: So the file size of the ISO is 768606208?
[11:52] <adrenalink> TJ-  cfhowlett Yes.  2048 x 375296
[11:53] <thom_> I usually do laptop installs. My desktop install experience is limited so take this with a grain of salt. It should give you the options to install along side XP, replace XP, and something else. I am pretty sure you will have to use the something else option.
[11:53] <lucasredsn0w> mm
[11:53] <lucasredsn0w> emm...
[11:53] <TJ-> adrenalink: OK, so if the md5 is different then the image on USB is corrupt - re-write it
[11:53] <adrenalink> TJ- OK
[11:53] <cfhowlett> adrenalink, TJ- it does happen.
[11:53] <cfhowlett> TJ-, thanks
[11:54] <lucasredsn0w> adrenalink, DON'T use any ISOs that have corrupt md5 sum
[11:54] <lucasredsn0w> Maybe there're malwares inside them
[11:54] <MaxFrames> I've found a setting in the tv about overscan
[11:54] <thom_> MaxFrames, if you actually booted from the dvd it will not be the Wubi install
[11:54] <MaxFrames> and it's ON now
[11:54] <tsisco> Hello. I am having some issues with the Realtek 8188ee wireless adapter on my Toshiba Laptop. I have the driver installed and I can get wifi on it, but its not stable. Anyone have any suggestions?
[11:54] <lucasredsn0w> So be careful
[11:54] <adrenalink> lucasredsn0w Don't worry. The ISO is correct. The USB is not.
[11:55] <MaxFrames> if I turn overscan to off, in win xp, the image shrinks i.e. does not take the whole estate
[11:55] <lucasredsn0w> That;s ok
[11:55] <MaxFrames> but I guess I can play with it
[11:56] <MaxFrames> so, ok, if I boot from the dvd I will choose "install alongside windows" and it will dual boot
[11:56] <MaxFrames> so: on which hdd should I put the boot loader?
[11:56] <lucasredsn0w> adrenalink, change your USB drive
[11:57] <lucasredsn0w> MaxFrames, On your master HDD
[11:57] <nmgmarques> Hi all. Having problems with postgresql. Trying top follow the guide over at https://www.openproject.org/projects/openproject/wiki/Installation_Ubuntu and am down to the bit where it tells me to create role openproject. In term, the prompt reads openproject@multibox:~$ and then I type CREATE ROLE openproject LOGIN ENCRYPTED PASSWORD 'my_password' NOINHERIT VALID UNTIL 'infinity'; but get a CREATE:command not found. Guessing this is b
[11:57] <lucasredsn0w> Which installed your system
[11:57] <nw0519230> MaxFrames: go to "Menu -> Setup -> Other Settings -> Picture Overscan" and turn it to "Off" if it is currently "On". does it help :)?
[11:57] <lucasredsn0w> In most cases that should be "/dev/sda0"
[11:57] <nw0519230> MaxFrames: oh, and by the way, if you want to see what the model is, i think you can go to "Menu -> Setup -> System Menu -> System Information" ;)
[11:57] <nmgmarques> Guesing I have to som how get into postgresql?
[11:58] <MaxFrames> nw0519230: thanks, it'll probably work, I'll try
[11:59] <MaxFrames> so, I'll put grub on the drive on which windows xp is
[11:59] <MaxFrames> next and last question: if I let ubuntu do everything automatically, how will it partition the hdd, will it create the swap partition itself? or should I go for a manual install and partition myself?
[11:59] <nw0519230> MaxFrames: np. do you have access to the TV right now? would like to know if it worked ;)
[11:59] <TJ-> MaxFrames: Or you could install it to the Linux drive, and use the system's boot menu to choose the boot device - that stops Windows and Linux interfering with each other's bootloaders
[12:00] <MaxFrames> nw0519230: it works but on xp it shrinks the image too much, perhaps with ubuntu it will show it ok
[12:01] <ljsoftnet> can i make 2 instances of volumeicon? i mean two volume icon in system tray for 2 sound cards
[12:01] <MaxFrames> TJ-: so if I do that, and then configure the bios to boot hdd2 first, I will be able to just use ubuntu and - if need be - change the bios settings to boot xp, without putting anything on the xp disk (not even grub)?
[12:02] <nw0519230> MaxFrames: the catalyst drivers also have a overscan/underscan setting, see: http://i.stack.imgur.com/ZKd0B.png . just saying ;)
[12:02] <ntz> hello
[12:02] <Blueeyez> hi ntz :)
[12:03] <cfhowlett> ntz, what is your ubuntu question?
[12:03] <TJ-> MaxFrames: Yes... most BIOS/Firmware have a 'hot' key you can press to choose the boot device without needing to change the BIOS's saved default, too
[12:03] <MaxFrames> nw0519230: and are there ati catalyst drivers for ubuntu?
[12:03] <MaxFrames> if I want to use proprietary drivers
[12:05] <chndn> on ubuntu...virtualbox is not running...
[12:05] <chndn> i donno why?
[12:05] <chndn> it says failed to create the virtualbox COM object
[12:05] <cfhowlett> chndn, error messages?
[12:05] <thom_> MaxFrames, there is an option in system settings to install third party drivers
[12:05] <cisconinja> i am successful in using cygwin and can export x application to my widows machine , i am able to start kwin & but failing to start kde desktop please help. this is on 13.10
[12:06] <MaxFrames> ok thanks
[12:06] <cfhowlett> chndn, go to #vbox for support
[12:06] <chndn> NS_ERROR_FACTORY_NOT_REGISTERED (0x80040154)
[12:06] <MaxFrames> what about the partitioning then, do I have to tell it to create the swap partition manually?
[12:07] <herkelBLUE> Hello, how do i create a file in linux that has execution privileges of ROOT (i think its called suid) .. i did sudo chmod +s and then i entererd "whoami" into the the file and it didnt say root
[12:08] <Blueeyez> if someone have a suggestion for Ubuntu future developement, where to post the suggestion?
[12:08] <cfhowlett> !contribute
[12:09] <Blueeyez> thx :)
[12:09] <nw0519230> MaxFrames: yes, there are, they can be selected/installed via this dialogue for example: http://i.stack.imgur.com/b7YPS.png
[12:10] <MaxFrames> sounds promising, now just tell me about the partitioning and I'll try to give it a go :)
[12:10] <cisconinja> i am successful in using cygwin and can export x application to my widows machine , i am able to start kwin & but failing to start kde desktop please help. this is on 13.10
[12:11] <shfinbgfo> I installed tor as adviced by their webpage
[12:11] <nw0519230> MaxFrames: looks like they even have the overscan/underscan setting in linux, see following picture for example: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MkVTHvrFnpw/UNSJit73CEI/AAAAAAAAJvM/tm-yGL-CJXY/s1600/Catalyste-Control-Center-Overscan.png ;) can't tell for sure though, as i am a nvidia user, not amd ;)
[12:11] <shfinbgfo> if i type tor into dash nothing pops up
[12:12] <MaxFrames> very good
[12:12] <nw0519230> MaxFrames: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/12/how-to-remove-thick-black-border-for.html
[12:13] <nw0519230> ;)
[12:13] <ljsoftnet> can i make 2 instances of volumeicon? i mean two volume icon in system tray for 2 sound cards
[12:14] <shfinbgfo> what are bridge relays and how do i set them up?
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> shfinbgfo  what do you want to achieve?
[12:15] <shfinbgfo> i want to browse anonymously to be able to access the bay
[12:15] <shfinbgfo> i am in a country where the bay seems to be blocked
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> the bay?
[12:15] <ikonia> ebay I assume
[12:15] <ikonia> shfinbgfo: talk to your isp
[12:15] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, aaarg, there she blow!
[12:15] <shfinbgfo> due to the aggressive legislation of fallacies which go against the legal authority of the great jurist stephan kinsella
[12:16] <ikonia> shfinbgfo: not interested in the politicis - talk to ISP, find someone (not in this channel) who has a proxy
[12:16] <ikonia> those are your options
[12:16] <TJ-> shfinbgfo: There's a court order; your ISP has to block it
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> shfinbgfo  i guess what you want to do is illegal, we cannot support that
[12:17] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: he's already been told his options., no need to keep repeating it
[12:18] <shfinbgfo> rothbardian here, i prefer the term you are under threat of aggression
[12:18] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: Not necessarily; but the UK courts have order BskyB and other major ISPs to block thepiratebay
[12:18] <ikonia> shfinbgfo: you have your answer, please drop it
[12:19] <shfinbgfo> ok then, thanks
[12:19] <shfinbgfo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY57F7QCAPw
[12:19] <ikonia> shfinbgfo: please don't post random spam in here
[12:19] <ikonia> shfinbgfo: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[12:21] <thom_> MaxFrames, did you start the install process?
[12:24] <ntz> i wanted to ask for one thing .. I'm just going to install ubuntu 12.04.x and I'd like to know, if there is a supported scenario to have ext4 /boot and LUKS encrypted LVM2 container for the rest ..
[12:24] <ntz> like this http://susepaste.org/view/raw/54906010
[12:25] <TJ-> ntz: I use that scenario frequently - how do you mean by "supported" ?
[12:25] <MaxFrames> thom_: gotta go now, I will install later today or tomorrow
[12:25] <MaxFrames> also I only have this one pc
[12:25] <MaxFrames> thanks all, cya soon
[12:25] <ntz> TJ-: thanks .. I was not sure if ubu installer can do it
[12:26] <TJ-> ntz: I'm not sure about the 12.04 installer though, I've always done it myself
[12:28] <ntz> TJ-: i was reading some articles including this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemOnIntrepid and there are terms like "alternate installer" and some hacky custom steps .. I generally asked if ubu installer can do it without any side-struggle
[12:30] <TJ-> ntz: It's a long time since I used the 12.04 installer, so can't recall if it has support.
[12:31] <ntz> hmm
[12:34] <ljsoftnet> can i make 2 instances of volumeicon? i mean two volume icon in system tray for 2 sound cards
[12:39] <crocket> How do I get nodejs 0.10 on ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> crocket  version 10.0 is in the repos
[12:41] <crocket> MonkeyDust, repos?
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> crocket  in 12.04, it's 0.6, i was too fast
[12:43] <somsip> crocket: the chris lea PPA is usually bang up to date, but see !PPA
[12:44] <crocket> yes!!!
[12:45] <crocket> How do I easily add a custom init script to ubuntu?
[12:45] <Fjorgynn> :D
[12:47] <adrenalink> cfhowlett TJ- I have rewrotten the USB stick ( on a new one) But I have the same issue. Ubuntu live starts but end with a black screen
[12:48] <TJ-> adrenalink: did you test the checksum again, before using it?
[12:48] <adrenalink> The usb stick led blink (like it seems to work)
[12:48] <TJ-> adrenalink: And, have you tried enabling the "nomodeset" option
[12:48] <adrenalink> Yes I checked, and it was different. But damn, the USB stick is new and the ISO image was correct
[12:49] <TJ-> adrenalink: Try using a different USB port, or if connected via a hub, connect directly to the PC
[12:50] <TJ-> adrenalink: ensure the port has sufficient power - self-powered hubs are more reliable, for example.
[12:53] <vegnt> I have a server at home on which i host a website with some domain, i also have two internet connections from two internet providers. How can I use the second connection as a backup so that when the first one is unavailbe, my website will still be reachable through the domain?
[12:55] <OerHeks> vegnt, you need to have to switch the dns to your second provider too, that could be an issue
[12:55] <OerHeks> vegnt you might want to reask in #ubuntu-server too
[12:56] <vegnt> OerHeks, thanks
[12:56] <TJ-> vegnt: A front-end proxy outside your links, configured for fail-over or load-balancing
[13:07] <adrenalink> TJ- I am on a notebook, so the USB port should not have this kind of problem. However I retried usind nomodeset and finally It works!!
[13:14] <kershack> hello everyone, whatever I install or deinstall, there comes a line that says "Setting up mysql-server-5.5 (5.5.35-0ubuntu0.12.04.2) ..." and then I am asked to enter mysql password twice, which is always rejected with these lines: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7179294/ and then the install (or deinstall) ends with the following line : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7179277/  how can I get rid of this apparently mysql-related error?
[13:16] <MonkeyDust>  kershack my guess: an mysql installation was interrupted, earlier, it now tries to continue
[13:16] <se_b> kershack: the password from mysql is not the "sudo" password
[13:17] <kershack> MonkeyDust, I tried deinstalling mysql several times, this error doesnt get removed
[13:17] <kershack> se_b, I know, but I dont remember when I entered an earlier password, and I'd like to purge it all now, but I cant.
[13:19] <mixx> hi guys how do i open the software installer tool
[13:19] <mixx> whats the name of the program
[13:19] <mixx> im in fluxbox atm and cant find it
[13:20] <OerHeks> !fluxbox
[13:20] <mixx> is it ubiquity?
[13:23] <OerHeks> mixx, i can't find the standard softwarecenter for fluxbox, maybe you can install synaptic
[13:24] <mixx> can i not load the one that gnome uses from fluxbox?
[13:24] <slotlocker> you sure can.
[13:25] <mixx> do you know what its called? :)
[13:25] <hotmedal> I'm upgraing from 13.04 to 13.10 and I have a Broadcom wifi driver that took a ridiculous amount of effort to get working. Will the upgrade remove that driver?
[13:25] <se_b> software-center?
[13:25] <slotlocker> which distribution is this?
[13:25] <mixx> software-center thanks!
[13:25] <slotlocker> software-center
[13:25] <mixx> fantastic
[13:26] <slotlocker> hotmedal: if it is BCM4313 it should work just fine.
[13:27] <slotlocker> the opensource brcmsmac driver works well
[13:27] <hotmedal> slotlocker: is that a new thing in Saucy? Because it was an absolute pain in Raring.
[13:27] <slotlocker> na! it was around for a while. just that the experience was flaky earlier.
[13:27] <slotlocker> it works well now
[13:28] <hotmedal> slotlocker: thanks, my mind is now at ease
[13:28] <slotlocker> :)
[13:32] <ice9> how to run 2 instances of Tor simultaneous?
[13:32] <ikonia> you don't
[13:33] <nshbrown> why would you is a better question?
[13:33] <nshbrown> setup your own tor server and tunnel through that if that's what your asking
[13:33] <hotmedal> with a virtual machine
[13:33] <slotlocker> virtual interfaces and bind.so
[13:34] <slotlocker> speculating. not entirely sure
[13:34] <ice9> nshbrown: it's better to have 2 separate instances 1 for browsing and another for IM maybe
[13:34] <ikonia> ice9: no
[13:34] <ice9> ikonia: why?
[13:34] <ikonia> ice9: why would i tbe bad to use the same instance ?
[13:35] <ice9> ikonia: data correlation?
[13:35] <ikonia> what ??
[13:35] <nshbrown> ice, it's an anonymous tunnel
[13:35] <nshbrown> ahh I see
[13:36] <slotlocker> http://daniel-lange.com/archives/53-Binding-applications-to-a-specific-IP.html
[13:36] <ice9> ikonia: for example if you access gtalk with your account then you are identified already on that exit tor node, all your browsing information can be correlated
[13:36] <nshbrown> you want to split your traffic up?
[13:36] <ikonia> ice9: no, it can't
[13:36] <ikonia> ice9: I think you may need to get a grip on reality in terms of what people are doing
[13:36] <ice9> ikonia: then please tell me about it
[13:37] <ikonia> use 1 session
[13:37] <hotmedal> ikonia: in light of recent events, no amount of paranoia is unreasonable. imho
[13:37] <mixx> what recent events
[13:37] <ikonia> sorry, thats stupid
[13:37] <hotmedal> mixx: NSA et al
[13:38] <slotlocker> honestly, don't see how having two sessions is better than having one. but if you are really particular you can create a virtual interface and make tor use that interface using bind.so
[13:38] <slotlocker> but then again, not worth the effort
[13:38] <ikonia> its stupid
[13:41] <hotmedal> say tor gives you an exit IP X, and you use it to visit website A, then you visit website B, now 'they' know that this visitor was the same person, so maybe having another tor session would give you 2 exit IPs
[13:41] <ikonia> but your first session is anonymous anyway, so who cares
[13:41] <hotmedal> I think that's ice9's idea
[13:41] <ikonia> if you don't trust that your session is anonymous what's the point of running a second untrusted session
[13:42] <hotmedal> true
[13:44] <bananapie> hey I just installed Lubuntu using the Wubi installer, but I can't find Lubuntu anywhere. When I click the installer it says that ubuntu is already installed and that I need to uninstall it to run the installer.
[13:44] <bananapie> I checked Windows bootloader and Lubuntu isn't there.
[13:44] <ikonia> wubi is dead
[13:45] <bananapie> oh
[13:45] <hotmedal> boot live ubuntu run boot manager
[13:45] <slotlocker> wubi does not work well with Windows 8
[13:45] <bananapie> I don't have a cd and this stupid computer won't boot from my fun USB key. It's Windows XP.
[13:45] <hotmedal> not booting from usb is bios problem
[13:46] <bananapie> i know.
[13:46] <bananapie> that's why I was hoping to use wubi.
[13:46] <hotmedal> I'm sure there's a boot manager of somesort for windows
[13:46] <slotlocker> check this out
[13:46] <slotlocker> http://lintut.com/how-to-boot-iso-image-from-your-hard-drive/
[13:46] <mici> http://lintut.com/how-to-boot-iso-image-from-your-hard-drive/
[13:46] <Ca11um> Are graphic drivers automatically installed with apt-get upgrade/udate ?
[13:47] <mici> sorry! forgot that putty does this funny thing with right click..
[13:47] <slotlocker> yes. unless they are proprietary drivers
[13:47] <bananapie> that only works if I have grub
[13:47] <bananapie> i bet I could install grub from windows!
[13:47] <Ca11um> I keep having problems with a freshly installed Ubuntu on a PC with a PCI graphics card. If I use the Super menu (or whatever it is), the whole screen glitches and I must force off the PC.
[13:48] <slotlocker> bananapie: sorry! I use it all the time, did not think twice before posting
[13:49] <bananapie> never mind, I found the USB boot option in BIOS :D
[13:49] <bananapie> viva la ubuntu
[13:57] <bananapie> I just lost 45 minutes waiting for Wubi because the BIOS on this computer is stupid and not intuitive.
[13:57] <bananapie> I wish Windows and the BIOS were as easy to use as Ubuntu
[13:57] <bekks> wubi is discontinued, you should not use it.
[14:06] <DavidBla> hey, anyone know how to get ntopng working on ubuntu 13.10?
[14:06] <ocooel> bekks, cfhowlett, getting a No cache load warning upon startup after installing and removing google earth
[14:07] <ocooel> on system boot
[14:07] <cfhowlett> ocooel, normal: the cache must download first to be present
[14:08] <ocooel> cfhowlett, sometimes it's stopping at the bios splash screen without going further needing to be forced to shut down. any ideas?
[14:08] <ice9> how do I completely remove kubuntu-desktop after installing it on Ubuntu?
[14:09] <DavidBla> this is disturbing me :D damn ntop , the last century version works well. if i want to build it from source there are errors every where... if i  use /bin/echo -e "deb http://www.nmon.net/apt x64/\ndeb http://www.nmon.net/apt all/" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ntop.list and  apt-get install pfring nprobe ntopng ntopng-data n2disk nbox  they told me my kernel istn compatible
[14:09] <ocooel> ice9, sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[14:09] <cfhowlett> ocooel, if it's stopping at the BIOS, that suggests a system/hardware error - not ubuntu
[14:09] <cfhowlett> ice9, sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[14:09] <ice9> ocooel: its said it will remove only 53KB disk space
[14:10] <ocooel> ice9, try sudo apt-get autoremove kubuntu-desktop
[14:11] <ocooel> cfhowlett, hoping that's all it is, wasn't doing it before I did sudo apt-get --purge remove lsb-core
[14:11] <DavidBla> sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get autoremove
[14:11] <ice9> ocooel: same
[14:11] <ice9> after I isntalled kubuntu-desktop I can't search apps in unity
[14:12] <cfhowlett> ice9, kubuntu doesn't use unity ...
[14:12] <ocooel> ice9, after installing kubuntu-desktop your shouldn't have unity
[14:12] <ice9> cfhowlett: I mean I can't search apps in ubuntu unity
[14:12] <ice9> ocooel: can't run both at the same time?
[14:12] <cfhowlett> ice9, logout.  click ubuntu gear icon.  choose "ubuntu" session.  login.  unity away ...
[14:13] <Richhh> possible to '&disown' after running a program?
[14:13] <ice9> cfhowlett: yes and then in Unity sessions the apps search is not working
[14:13] <ocooel> cfhowlett, is there a CLI tool that checks for dependencies, think the --purge remove lsb-core might have done something..?
[14:14] <bekks> ocooel: Installing kubuntu-desktop will NOT remove unity in any case.
[14:14] <cfhowlett> ice9, no dash at all or no results ?
[14:14] <ice9> cfhowlett: now results
[14:14] <ice9> no*
[14:15] <cfhowlett> ocooel, I don't know about that
[14:15] <cfhowlett> ice9, try a reboot ...
[14:15] <ice9> cfhowlett: do you know where the dash cache is stored?
[14:15] <cfhowlett> ice9, I know not ...
[14:23] <kodos992> Hello
[14:23] <ocooel> cfhowlett, here's a good one, will sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade replace any missing packages from install..?
[14:24] <ocooel> nothing happened, maybe I did something else I can't remember doing.
[14:26] <cfhowlett> ocooel, only need 2: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade      will bring all currently installed packages to latest version in the repos    won't replace anything missing however.
[14:27] <ocooel> cfhowlett, how to check what sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will do..?
[14:27] <cfhowlett> ocooel, it will install the ubuntu-desktop metapackages ....
[14:28] <bekks> ocooel: Before installing packages, it will ask you wether you really want to do that.
[14:28] <ocooel> cfhowlett, not just any missing packages :-(
[14:29] <bekks> ocooel: Packages already installed will not be reinstalled.
[14:29] <cfhowlett> ocooel, it will install the default ubuntu desktop minus the one's already present as bekks stated
[14:30] <ocooel> bekks, cfhowlett, said ubuntu-desktop is already latest version.
[14:30] <ocooel> hmmm
[14:30] <bekks> 1So all packages already installed.
[14:30] <IdleOne> sudo apt-get -f install > will try to fix any broken/half installed packages
[14:30] <cfhowlett> bekks, help him out: I'm on ubuntustudio, so no ubuntu (unity) experience ever.  his dash search doesn't
[14:31] <IdleOne> but, without knowing exactly what the issue is I can't say that command will help
[14:32] <bekks> cfhowlett: I have no clue, I'm almost enever using that dash thing :)
[14:32] <ocooel> cfhowlett, bekks, that's ice9
[14:32] <cfhowlett> d0h!
[14:33] <ocooel> atleast you care :-)
[14:33] <ocooel> cfhowlett, bekks, Idle0ne, is libc6:i386 a dependencie of 13.10 64bit..?
[14:34] <ocooel> I purged that one too.
[14:34] <bekks> ocooel: why did you randomly purged packages?
[14:34] <bekks> ocooel: And whats the actual support issue at that point?
[14:35] <ocooel> bekks, google earth install didn't work and now I'm getting weird No cache load messages on startup of ubuntu
[14:35] <bekks> ocooel: And why did you start to randomly purge packages?
[14:36] <ocooel> bekks, the tutorial said to install it to be able to install google earth 64 bit, so when I removed google earth I also removed libc6:i386
[14:36] <ocooel> bekks, is what you're getting at that it's a bad thing..?
[14:36] <IdleOne> it wasn't good
[14:36] <bekks> ocooel: which you had to install before installing google earth, when following the manual.
[14:37] <ocooel> bekks, yes
[14:37] <bekks> ocooel: Then it isnt a bad thing.
[14:37] <ocooel> from this tutorial - the first answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/366438/how-to-install-google-earth-64bit-in-ubuntu-13-10-ia32-libs-dependency-error
[14:39] <ocooel> Idle0ne, sudo apt-get -f install > will try to fix any broken/half installed packages - is this the same as fixing broken packages via synaptic..?
[14:42] <IdleOne> ocooel: yes
[14:42] <ocooel> Is there a CLI rule/argument that checks for missing default installation packages..?
[14:42] <IdleOne> ocooel: my nick is spelled with an O not a 0
[14:42] <teward> in Ubuntu 12.04, I'm trying to create an ad-hoc wifi which will share my eth0 connection to other computers.  However, when I connect to the ad-hoc connection, it can't reach out to the internet.  Is there a way to diagnose why that's the case?
[14:43] <ocooel> IdleOne, sorry
[14:43] <IdleOne> no worries :)
[14:43] <ocooel> IdleOne, bekks, Is there a CLI rule/argument that checks for missing default installation packages..?
[14:44] <bekks> ocooel: apt-get install will install all missing packages as needed.
[14:45] <ocooel> bekks, I need to be root?
[14:46] <ocooel> Got two lines of errors - 1. E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[14:46] <IdleOne> yes you need to use sudo
[14:46] <ocooel> 2. E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[14:46] <cfhowlett> !lock|ocooel,
[14:46] <cfhowlett> !aptlock
[14:47] <cfhowlett> ocooel, SEE above
[14:47] <IdleOne> bekks: couldn't he just install libc6-i386?
[14:48] <bekks> IdleOne: why should he? It is not needed on a 64bit system.
[14:48] <bekks> ocooel: Why do you panically try to install unneeded packages?
[14:48] <IdleOne> bekks: well, I'm not completely sure exactly what the issue is
[14:48] <ocooel> IdleOne, bekks, it wasn't installed in the first place, trying to cover all bases because I purged it and it might have taken a dependency for some other package.
[14:49] <bekks> ocooel: No. apt-get purge would have told you.
[14:49] <ocooel> bekks, IdleOne, hahaha I installed the package as per the tutorial in askubuntu, but it didn't work or help to get google earth running so I purged it
[14:49] <bekks> ocooel: And you purged it again - so everything as it was before. Done.
[14:50] <ocooel> bekks, thank you
[14:51] <ocooel> bekks, on startup, before the login screen I'm prompted with messages that didn't show before like No cache load, assuming cache etc. cfhowlett said it's normal but i've not seen it before..?
[14:51] <jotik> Hello, I'm having trouble doing a network install using the mini CD. The console says "Could not find any live images". Any ideas?
[14:51] <jotik> (expert install)
[14:52] <cfhowlett> ocooel, well, there is a chance that I could have been slightly mistaken ...
[14:52] <Guest96271> !list
[14:52] <ocooel> cfhowlett, I'll find out :-p
[14:53] <rbanffy> Hi folks. Is there a clean way to make a "unknown monitor" (something that has EDID blocked) have 1920x1080 resolution (in addition to 800x600 and 1024x768)?
[15:10] <blz> Hello, I'm trying to mount a partition on a 1TB drive in order to recover some data.  I'm not exactly sure what kind of filesystem is on there (presumably NTFS, since this is from a windows machine).  `sudo fdisk /dev/sdb -l` returns an error message, which I have posted here:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7179855/
[15:10] <blz> How should I proceed?
[15:11] <blz> Note that I tried starting gparted, but it just hangs when checking the disk
[15:11] <blz> Or rather, it hangs on the "scanning all devices" message
[15:11] <bekks> blz: you need to use parted/gparted.
[15:11] <bekks> blz: fdisk cant deal with GPT.
[15:12] <blz> bekks, which options should I use with parted?
[15:12] <blz> bekks, gparted hangs on "Searching /dev/sdb partitions"
[15:12] <bekks> parted -l ? :)
[15:12] <blz> bekks, thanks =)
[15:13] <blz> bekks, hmm it seems like `parted -l` is hanging as well, which I guess isn't so surprising given how gparted is behaving
[15:13] <blz> bekks, erm... I spoke too soon.  sorry!
[15:14] <blz> (and thanks!)
[15:16] <cactuswizard> I have a pretty weird problems with my laptop, when accessing menu, the top of the screen starts flashing yellow
[15:16] <sudormrf_> hey guys.
[15:17] <sudormrf_> can someone verify if this line will work with inotifywait?
[15:17] <sudormrf_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7179883/
[15:17] <sudormrf_> I set it up a while back on a different machine.  I have now migrated that machine to something else and I want to get this last piece setup.
[15:18] <sudormrf_> I have a feeling the part with the cp is wrong
[15:19] <sudormrf_> I am trying to find examples while waiting :)
[15:26] <Foxhoundz> My Linux PC running Ubuntu Gnome Remix and is connected via  WiFi and ethernet cable to a PC running windows. Now my  Linux has already detected the network ( I guess via Samba  shares?) and is present in the file browser. HOWEVER, it's  using the WiFi connection to communicate with this PC  instead of the faster gigabit connection. Needless to say ,
[15:27] <sudormrf_> Foxhoundz: what are the metrics for your devices?
[15:27] <sudormrf_> do ifconfig | grep metric
[15:29] <nasa> galera sou novato no ubuntu e to precisando de ajuda
[15:29] <sudormrf_> Foxhoundz: see if your wifi device has a higher metric for some reason.  higher means lower
[15:29] <sudormrf_> Foxhoundz: lower metric = higher priority
[15:30] <Foxhoundz> it started working
[15:30] <Foxhoundz> !Uhh
[15:30] <Foxhoundz> I think I forgot to assign this PC a static IP for eth0
[15:30] <A1Recon> !huh
[15:30] <sudormrf_PRIME> is anyone around that can verify my inotifywait command?
[15:30] <sudormrf_PRIME> !huh
[15:31] <sudormrf_PRIME> I am going to see if I can pull the script off the old box
[15:31] <sudormrf_PRIME> because waiting is for the birds :P
[15:31] <bekks> sudormrf_PRIME: Why dont you just try it yourself? :)
[15:31] <nasa> sei que tem como, porem nao sei fazer. Estou programando em Java e qndo tem algum erro no codigo ele informa e tbm diz uma possivel solução. Qual o nome do pacote q instalo para traduzir estes avisos???
[15:32] <cfhowlett> !it|nasa,
[15:32] <sudormrf_PRIME> bekks: just looking for a second set of eyes is all :)
[15:32] <sudormrf_PRIME> bekks: two heads is better than one and all that :D
[15:32] <sudormrf_PRIME> bekks: I think I created a bash script on the old machine.  if I did I will grab it from that.
[15:33] <cactuswizard> hmm, weird. Ubuntu uses large amount of RAM every time I start any program
[15:33] <nasa> tk
[15:33] <bekks> cactuswizard: Unused RAM is wasted RAM. Did you check what exactly is using your RAM?
[15:33] <A1Recon> I am having some probems in Libreoffice while creating bullets.... What do I do when I have an answer which is already numbered  but it has some subpoints.... How do i add bullets to subpoints of a paragraph which is already numbered?
[15:35] <cfhowlett> A1Recon, ask in the libreoffice channel if no response here
[15:35] <Wulframn> !libreoffice | A1Recon
[15:35] <cfhowlett> Wulframn, good idea
[15:35] <A1Recon> thanks!!
[15:35] <Wulframn> No worries, good luck!
[15:36] <cactuswizard> bekks: not yet, trying to figure out why screen starts flashing yellow every time I use the unity menu, 1,5GB total ram anyway and no problems earlier with unity
[15:36] <streulma> Hello, my ar5bbu22 is not working in Ubuntu 13.10, even in 14.04. Bluetooth can't detect devices. In Windows it is OK.
[15:36] <bekks> cactuswizard: The first approach would be to see what is using your RAM.
[15:37] <sudormrf_PRIME> bekks: can you verify something for me about inotifywait?  If I run the script once, it will stay running forever, even at startup, right?
[15:37] <bekks> sudormrf_PRIME: Just test it yourself :)
[15:38] <llameadrpc> cactuswizard: 2nd is to check for Xorg errors.
[15:38] <sudormrf_PRIME> bekks: I have the script now.  I haven’t used it in a while.  IIRC it continued monitoring the directory even at startup
[15:38] <sudormrf_PRIME> bekks: but I could be wrong about that.  in which case I may need to use incron?
[15:39] <cactuswizard> system monitor shows no solution, compiz using 8% of CPU/39MiB RAM
[15:41] <llameadrpc> cactuswizard: sudo grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:43] <Guest24469> hi, have a problem with my ubuntu installation, I accidentally put it into suspend mode and now it won't even get past the POST screen, what can I do?
[15:43] <Guest24469> hi, have a problem with my ubuntu installation, I accidentally put it into suspend mode and now it won't even get past the POST screen, what can I do?
[15:43] <cactuswizard> says Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)
[15:45] <Guest24469> anyone?
[15:45] <arvut> shouldn't a desktop install (64bit) of ubuntu 12.04 be around 6G? my rootfs is 7.4G while the partition it resides on is 8.2G so I'm constantly running low on space..
[15:45] <cfhowlett> Guest24469, reboot
[15:46] <cfhowlett> arvut, approximately but that will fill over time.  spring cleaning: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get purge
[15:46] <Guest24469> I did reboot, can't get past POST screen
[15:47] <llameadrpc> Guest24469: If you know how to sanity-check your BIOS settings, do it.
[15:47] <cfhowlett> arvut, you might need to clear your old kernels as well as they will fill the /boot partition
[15:47] <Guest24469> I can't even open up the BIOS options, it just hangs
[15:47] <arvut> cfhowlett: yeah, i do clean it from time to time. but it fills up in a matter of weeks (without any new installed programs)
[15:47] <cfhowlett> arvut, are you running logs?  saving lots of data?
[15:47] <cfhowlett> or media?
[15:48] <arvut> its a pretty fresh install too. only about 2 months old (reinstalled cause upgrating from 10.04 to 12.04 isn't safe from my experience)
[15:48] <llameadrpc> arvut: du | sort -n | tail
[15:48] <arvut> not sure about the logs tbh
[15:48] <arvut> but var is pretty small
[15:49] <Guest24469> any thoughts?
[15:49] <arvut> ah, found a whole bunch of linuxheaders in /usr/src
[15:49] <cfhowlett> arvut, gparted can repartition your HDD - perhaps more space...you're running pretty close to the limit
[15:49] <arvut> can I safely shred those?
[15:49] <cfhowlett> arvut, wait 1
[15:50] <cfhowlett> arvut, http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-uninstall-the-old-kernels-in-ubuntu/
[15:50] <arvut> yeah, considered using some of the homepartitions space for repartition. not sure how to do it with gparted tho. I'm used to fdisk
[15:50] <cfhowlett> !home|arvut,
[15:51] <arvut> ...
[15:51] <arvut> I have set up linuxsystems before
[15:51] <arvut> gentoo among others
[15:51] <arvut> this isn't actually my own laptop, its my grandparents
[15:51] <arvut> so they wanted ubuntu
[15:52] <cfhowlett> arvut, or use lubuntu or xubuntu - less demanding on your  (presumably) limited systems resources
[15:52] <arvut> I might as well make a separate /usr and /boot partition too. those seems to fill up in no time
[15:52] <cactuswizard> hmm
[15:52] <arvut> its a core2 laptop so its not very limited
[15:52] <arvut> and they actually want unity (beyond me to understand)
[15:52] <cfhowlett> arvut, :)
[15:52] <cfhowlett> arvut, you're a good grandkid to keep them happy
[15:53] <arvut> they pay me well =)
[15:53] <cactuswizard> hahaha :D
[15:53] <Guest24469> any thoughts on how I can get my computer up and running again?
[15:53] <arvut> anyway, if I remap /usr and /boot and then rewrite fstab, will there be anything else that must be done in ubuntu to keep the system happy?
[15:54] <cfhowlett> arvut, regular cleaning as you described solves most problems.  also apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:54] <arvut> oh, and about uninstalling kernels, I've done that with aptitude in the past, but isn't there a quicker way? like just removing them and updating grub2?
[15:55] <cactuswizard> hey btw, could my problems come from hardware, because Ubuntu Gnome crashed every time I let it go to screensaver
[15:55] <cfhowlett> arvut, ask the channel.  I prefer the CLI method but that's just me
[15:55] <arvut> dist-upgrade is a nightmare, broke so many of my old systems (which is the reason I migrated to a more customizable flavour)
[15:56] <llutz> arvut: to remove all old kernels but the running one, you can use: dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge
[15:56] <arvut> thx llutz
[15:56] <arvut> dpkg is a package manager I never really got around to befriend :P
[15:57] <arvut> perhaps one day I can help you sort out any issues you have with portage and emerge ;)
[15:57] <k-joseph> hi guys, is this the right place to ask some user but developer oriented issues?
[15:58] <Guest24469> is there any way to access my BIOS if the POST screen hangs when I press Del to enter setup?
[15:58] <llutz> arvut: i haven't used gentoo in the past 20 yrs and i doubt i will in the coming 20 ;)
[15:58] <arvut> Guest24469: thats not a ubuntu support question, but the simple answer is most likely a No.
[15:59] <llutz> Guest24469: shutdown the machine, pull the powerchord, wait 2 minutes, try again
[15:59] <cactuswizard> Guest24469: and if that doesn't work reinstall the os
[16:00] <llutz> cactuswizard: why? what does entering the BIOS setup have to do with the OS
[16:00] <Tzunamii> arvut: For inclusion into your Bash function library:  http://hastebin.com/fovaboniba.vhdl
[16:00] <Guest24469> ok
[16:00] <k-joseph> when ever i restart or shutdown, /tmp is emptied and some times i really loose very vital info, like firefox some times adds files downloaded into /tmp, and i in most cases forget to pick them from there before either restarting or shutting down
[16:01] <clue_h> select choose where to download files in firefox prefs
[16:01] <cfhowlett> k-joseph, are you running from a USB or something?
[16:01] <llutz> k-joseph: check TMPTIME=x in  /etc/default/rcS
[16:02] <cactuswizard> llutz: well at least once it solved my problems
[16:02] <llutz> k-joseph: also check /etc/fstab if you have moved your /tmp into tmpfs
[16:02] <cactuswizard> llutz: and yeah, I had problems entering BIOS then
[16:03] <arvut> llutz: its only been around for the last 14 anyway. but you never know, you might find one day the urge to move on to a customized distro that doesn't rely on debian architecture :P my next step will probably be LFS, but I'm an explorer and I love to learn (knowledge is the best drug after all)
[16:03] <k-joseph> so then i want to write a script that runs every time some one tries to restart or shutdown the pc, and i want it to be able to copy every thing there and then put it in a folder like on the desktop and alert me immediately after booting so i can select which data was vital, any help would be very helpful since am not much into shel scripting, otherwise thanks cfhowlett  and llutz for the responses
[16:04] <ktos> Hi
[16:04] <arvut> I started off with dsl and some very small distros on old P1 machines in my early teens, then migrated from winxp to ubuntu 8.10 in late 2008, today I use mostly gentoobased distros and winblows 7&8 (I'm just a sucker for gaming, lol..)
[16:04] <ktos> I have working ubuntu with swap partion. tell me please, will it boot if I temporary remove swap partition?
[16:05] <topinambury> ok
[16:05] <topinambury> when i change my dns in resolv.conf
[16:05] <johan___> Hi! I need help connect to my schools windows server. In older ubuntu, clicked "Connect to server" in Nautilus, and chose "windows server" from the scroll list. That list no longer exist. Is there any other way to connect like that? I need to specify the domain name and share name. Thx =)
[16:05] <topinambury> what should i do so it gets accepted
[16:05] <cfhowlett> !samba| johan___
[16:05] <jjavaholic> what are the pitfalls of upgrading at final beta stage and not final release?
[16:06] <cfhowlett> jjavaholic, better question: why upgrade to an in -development , non-released version?
[16:07] <k-joseph> cfhowlett: am not sure how i can answer your question, i beg for further clarification in what you asked!!!
[16:07] <k-joseph> that is <cfhowlett> k-joseph, are you running from a USB or something?
[16:07] <jjavaholic> i was just interested cause 13.10 has been pretty buggy and poor for me
[16:07] <sudormrf_PRIME> hey guys, just to verify, if I want a script to run at startup I can just add this to the rc.local “exec “/script/path.sh”” and be done, right?
[16:08] <cfhowlett> jjavaholic, and 14.04 is in BETA = not ready for prime time.  it releases in a few weeks.  I'd suggest waiting unless you're OK with beta level performance
[16:09] <jjavaholic> I just think I might be better than the buggy mess I have just now
[16:09] <cfhowlett> k-joseph, critical info should not be getting lost in /tmp on normal shutdowns.  Suggest you carefully shut down your apps before system shutdowns
[16:10] <jjavaholic> I have only done it a few times in the past or many once
[16:10] <cfhowlett> jjavaholic, you'll make a great beta tester.  go for it.
[16:11] <jjavaholic> that read like sarcasm
[16:11] <k-joseph> cfhowlett: some times i may not be able to do that, like abrupt power issues etc,  that's why i think a script to do all in the background is necessary
[16:11] <cfhowlett> jjavaholic, nope.
[16:12] <cfhowlett> k-joseph, ??? fix your power issues first!
[16:12] <k-joseph> cfhowlett: ok, but can i do what i was thinking about as well
[16:12] <llutz> k-joseph: use a cron-script to copy all the stuff from /tmp to /tmpbackupwhatever periodicly if you really want that.
[16:13] <cfhowlett> k-joseph, of course.
[16:13] <llutz> k-joseph: but as stated, /tmp is the wrong place to store something one need later
[16:13] <cfhowlett> k-joseph, THIS ^^^
[16:14] <k-joseph> llutz: you see some times firefox does it, even when i had set it to put my downloads under the download folder in my home directory
[16:14] <llutz> k-joseph: then file a bug-report
[16:15] <TJ-> k-joseph: Assuming the PC is on UPS power and is notified when a power shutdown is required, as well as when the user initiates a software shutdown, you can simply add an upstart init script that triggers on "start on runlevel [06]"
[16:16] <k-joseph> llutz: as i do that, i request to go ahead and do a much faster possible solution, which can give me more knowledge as well, i think i can break down what i need in simple process lines
[16:17] <Guest24469> okay, unplugging the computer for 2 mins (actually more like 15) seemed to do the trick.  thank you!  Why does that trick work?
[16:17] <k-joseph> TJ-: that sounds a bit complex !!!
[16:17] <TJ-> k-joseph: About 3 lines in the init script; can't make it less complex
[16:18] <cinix> Is anyone familiar with how bluetooth stack automatically connects to some devices?
[16:18] <sudormrf_PRIME> bekks: ok.  so the script works fine.  I put it into init.d and that is cool.  however, when I run it with “service service_name start” it is displaying on the screen.  I would like it to not do that
[16:18] <cinix> I'm writing a program to talk to a bluetooth device, but don't know what it's called to automatically connect to even start searching.
[16:19] <cinix> I picture it working like this: Hey i'm bluetooth and available, then the computer receives the message and starts a connection. Like when you turn on a keyboard or mouse and it just starts working automatically.
[16:19] <k-joseph> 1. how can i check that any program or user is requesting for a shutdown or restart inside a script?
[16:20] <gmachine_24> greetings earthlings. I set up (I thought) a cron job to run as root - so $sudo crontab -e  .... and it's there with the other root cron job .... how can I tell if they executed? thanks. :-)
[16:20] <k-joseph> i hope i can make this pending and then cp the content of /tmp wherever i may need
[16:21] <arvut> can I repart my ubuntu with fdisk btw? I got a sabayon liveusb and a minimal gentoo liveusb that I prefer to use for those tasks
[16:21] <arvut> as in expanding partitions and shrinking them
[16:21] <ikonia> arvut: why would you not be able to use the ubuntu cd ?
[16:22] <arvut> don't have one and don't have any blank dvds
[16:22] <ikonia> arvut: so what are you actually asking then ?
[16:22] <TJ-> k-joseph: "start on runlevel [06]; script sh -c 'cp /source/ /destination/'; end script"
[16:22] <arvut> if fdisk works for repartition and shrinking home so I can expand root
[16:22] <arvut> and remap /usr and /boot to their own partitions
[16:23] <ikonia> arvut: fdisk will be usable to re-partition ms dos partitioned disks,
[16:23] <arvut> yeah, its not a lvm
[16:23] <ikonia> no-one said anything about lvm
[16:23] <ikonia> what are you talking about lvm ?
[16:23] <arvut> well afaik fdisk can't handle lvm
[16:24] <ikonia> you don't partition logical volumes
[16:24] <ikonia> why would you even consider doing that ???
[16:24] <arvut> and the partitions are as you mentioned, on a msdos table
[16:25] <arvut> but would it be safe to resize the partitions with fdisk?
[16:25] <ikonia> it's something I'd advise you not to do
[16:25] <arvut> how come?
[16:25] <ikonia> more so as you appear to lack the basic skill to use the tool properly
[16:25] <arvut> I've used it for years
[16:25] <ikonia> then why are you asking these obvious questions
[16:26] <arvut> because I haven't got much experience with ubuntu lately
[16:26] <llutz> arvut: why do you ask then? ubuntu partitions are not different than other linux partitions
[16:26] <ikonia> ubuntu is not fsik
[16:26] <cfhowlett> arvut, I think the phrase is "then on your head ..."
[16:26] <arvut> left ubuntu for other distros awhile back
[16:26] <ikonia> fdisk is the same across all distros
[16:26] <ikonia> so again - if you have years of experiences why are you asking obvious questions and trying to use a tool for something it's not designed to do
[16:26] <arvut> k
[16:26] <arvut> thats the question I asked
[16:26] <ikonia> fdisk / partition tables are exactly the same as on other distros
[16:26] <arvut> if it was safe to use fdisk for that task
[16:26] <ikonia> it's safe if you know how to use the tool
[16:27] <arvut> ofcourse
[16:27] <leviworley> yes because all distros use the ext format
[16:27] <ikonia> but as you don't I'd advise you very strongly not to try it
[16:27] <arvut> I've never resized partitions on a running system with fdisk tho. so that is the reason I ask these "obvious questions"
[16:27] <arvut> treat me as a noob, but don't be an arse
[16:27] <ikonia> leviworley: partition tables are nothing to do with file systems
[16:28] <ikonia> arvut: I'm not being an arse, you are saying you have years of experience then saying silly things
[16:28] <arvut> leviworley: I use reiserfs on some
[16:28] <slikts> should I expect any problems using 12.04 with an amd gpu and dual screens?
[16:28] <leviworley> well i just jumped in the conversation so sorry
[16:28] <ikonia> repartitioning a disk on a running system is stupid - do not do this
[16:28] <arvut> ikonia: years of experience with a tool that i haven't used for all its possible potential. i said i had used it for years, not that I have mastered it
[16:29] <TJ-> arvut: If the partitions being resized do not contain mounted file-system, you can notify the kernel about a changed PT with partprobe or kpartx, and it will - if possible - re-read the PT (you can check before/after in "/proc/partitions")
[16:29] <ikonia> arvut: yet you seem to not understand the basics like "partitioning lvm" and partitioning a running system
[16:29] <cfhowlett> arvut, repartiting on a running system is actually one of the faster ways to fatally break the system
[16:29] <cfhowlett> !repartition|arvut,
[16:29] <arvut> TJ-: k, so the kernel needs that info, good to know
[16:29] <cfhowlett> !partition
[16:29] <ikonia> so again "does not have the basic experience"
[16:29] <arvut> quit it already ikonia
[16:30] <arvut> if you're not gonna help then stop bothering me with your trolling
[16:30] <ikonia> arvut: quit what ? advising you strongly not to do this beacuase you lack the basic understanding to use the tool safely ?
[16:30] <arvut> ignored
[16:30] <cfhowlett> ikonia, he's got years of experience.  I defer to his judgement. (*)
[16:31] <arvut> cfhowlett: I specified that i have years of experience using the tool for some basic tasks. not years of experience with ALL of its potential. which is the reason I'm asking these questions in here
[16:32] <cfhowlett> arvut, I'm not arguing.  Do what you must.  Be aware the gparted is the default (and preferred) app  for your task but if you've a better method, go for it.
[16:32] <ikonia> trying to resize a running partition and partition lvm's is not "fdisk basics" its lacking the basic knowledge and thus you should not try to do this
[16:32] <ikonia> you should use a more friendly tool and do it from a livecd
[16:33] <ikonia> (or live media)
[16:33] <pikimeister> quick noob question, how can i add shortcuts (custom folders) to Files left pane? (14.04)
[16:33] <arvut> thx for the warning, and for not arguing about it. if gparted can do it better, then surely parted (cli version) can do the same tasks, right?
[16:33] <cfhowlett> pikimeister, 14.04 support is in #ubuntu+1
[16:34] <cfhowlett> arvut, I believe so
[16:34] <ikonia> arvut: again parted is more advance than fdisk - so if you are struggling with fdisk basics, you should use the gui tool then look at the logs to see how it ran parted
[16:34] <pikimeister> even if i'm asking for 14.04 i believe the method must be the same for 13.10.
[16:34] <ikonia> gparted will log the commands it runs in the parted shell
[16:34] <uthai> need help with lost modeprob.conf file
[16:34] <cfhowlett> pikimeister, 14.04 is not officially supported yet so = #ubuntu+1
[16:36] <uthai> how can I recover modeprob.conf file, sound input / output is lost... can see other problems
[16:36] <uthai> can = can't
[16:38] <hinv-> tips
[16:38] <sudormrf_PRIME> would someone like to help me out with this inotifywait problem I am having?  it looks like the script I wrote is endlessly looping, even though it shouldn’t be
[16:38] <cfhowlett> hinv-, what is your ubuntu question?
[16:38] <Seven_Six_Two> is there a way to solve "sorry, ubuntu 13.10 has experienced an internal error" every time I log in? I get 3 or 4 of them every single time.
[16:38] <Seven_Six_Two> I get them for gnome-settings-daemon and Xorg
[16:38] <sudormrf_PRIME> here is the script
[16:38] <sudormrf_PRIME> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7180267/
[16:39] <sudormrf_PRIME> the behavior is the same with both rsync and cp
[16:39] <gmachine_24> hello again. I need to find all folders and files in my music database that contain "grateful" as in 'grateful dead' (w/o the quotes of course). if the database is at /media/music1 what command do I use? I'm being trying and failing with locate and find
[16:40] <gmachine_24> *I've
[16:40] <rypervenche> sudormrf_PRIME: Because you have "while true"
[16:40] <Seven_Six_Two> gmachine_24, did you use "sudo updatedb" before using locate?
[16:40] <black_13> hey is the gtk.org website down
[16:40] <gmachine_24> Seven_Six_Two: yes.
[16:40] <sudormrf_PRIME> rypervenche: hmm.  so then change to while false?
[16:40] <Seven_Six_Two> gmachine_24, locate grateful
[16:41] <rypervenche> sudormrf_PRIME: Nope, if you want it to run just once, then just remove the while loop. What are you trying to accomplish?
[16:41] <k1l_> black_13: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/gtk.org
[16:41] <gmachine_24> Seven_Six_Two: yeah, I did that and got nothing
[16:41] <gmachine_24> sorry, I did $locate grateful and got nothing
[16:41] <sudormrf_PRIME> rypervenche: I want inotifywait to constantly monitor folder x and if any changes happen to that folder copy that data to folder y
[16:41] <Seven_Six_Two> gmachine_24, I just did it on my computer, and got exactly what I was looking for.
[16:41] <sudormrf_PRIME> rypervenche: folder y is not part of btsync
[16:41] <gmachine_24> Seven_Six_Two: I'll be right over
[16:41] <uthai> anyone can assist : lost modprobe.conf file ?
[16:42] <llutz> sudormrf_PRIME: tried using incron?
[16:42] <Seven_Six_Two> gmachine_24, is it an external drive?
[16:42] <black_13> k1l_: i wonder what happend
[16:42] <OerHeks> sudormrf_PRIME, unless your user name is nick, "/home/nick/inotify_log/inotifywait.log" > /home/$USER/inotify_log/inotifywait.log
[16:42] <gmachine_24> Seven_Six_Two: no, but it's not the main drive
[16:42] <sudormrf_PRIME> llutz: I haven’t.  I was reading about it today.  doesn’t incron run things periodically?
[16:42] <k1l_> black_13: dont know. ask their admin. but that doesn suit into ubuntu support :)
[16:42] <sudormrf_PRIME> OerHeks: thanks!  the username is nick, but I like the wildcard idea.
[16:42] <JoshuaP> What is the difference between 'lp' and 'passthrough' with printers?
[16:42] <black_13> understood
[16:42] <gmachine_24> Seven_Six_Two: by external I thought you meant outside the case
[16:43] <llutz> sudormrf_PRIME: no its event driven, :   /media/BTSync IN_CREATE,IN_DELETE,IN_MODIFY" rsync -vr /media/BTSync /media/Mimir_Odin/Plunder"
[16:43] <Seven_Six_Two> gmachine_24, does   ls -lR | grep grateful
[16:43] <Seven_Six_Two> gmachine_24, return anything?
[16:43] <sudormrf_PRIME> llutz: let me check it out
[16:43] <Seven_Six_Two> gmachine_24, I mean usb
[16:43] <sudormrf_PRIME> llutz: that sounds more elegant
[16:43] <Seven_Six_Two> gmachine_24, does   ls -lR / | grep grateful
[16:44] <gmachine_24> Seven_Six_Two: "I mean usb" - yes, that's what I thought you meant. $ ls -lR | grep grateful also gives me nothing. I am running 13.04 server
[16:44] <llutz> sudormrf_PRIME: some nice examples http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-inotify-examples-to-replicate-directories/
[16:44] <sudormrf_PRIME> llutz: will that hold even after reboot?
[16:45] <sudormrf_PRIME> llutz: that was the page I was reading earlier and just the page I was looking for now! :D
[16:45] <llutz> sudormrf_PRIME: incron-tables are permanent, yes
[16:45] <sudormrf_PRIME> llutz: good.
[16:45] <sudormrf_PRIME> llutz: let me have a look at those examples again and give it a shot
[16:45] <Seven_Six_Two> gmachine_24, sorry, you need the / or you could try    ls -lR /media | grep grateful
[16:46] <Seven_Six_Two> gmachine_24, can you cd to a folder with one of your target files and do   ls -l
[16:46] <llutz> gmachine_24: find path/ -iname '*grateful*'
[16:46] <sudormrf_PRIME> llutz: whoa.  strange permissions issue with incron.  says my normal user and my root user can’t use incrontab :S
[16:46] <sudormrf_PRIME> lel
[16:47] <Seven_Six_Two> gmachine_24, copy one of the lines here.
[16:47] <llutz> sudormrf_PRIME: yes, you have to add the allowed users to incron.allow
[16:47] <sudormrf_PRIME> llutz: cool.  doing it now
[16:48] <Seven_Six_Two> gmachine_24, you are doing ls -l and not ls -1 right?
[16:48] <llutz> sudormrf_PRIME: see part "Configuration files" in link above
[16:48] <sudormrf_PRIME> llutz: thanks :)
[16:49] <gmachine_24> ok... $find path/ -iname '*grateful*' where I used $find /media/MUSIC1 -iname "grateful" gave me what I needed.
[16:49] <lxuser_> hi i'm running ubuntu saucy, and I have a problem with getty instances hogging the cpu. is that a known issue?
[16:49] <gmachine_24> Seven_Six_Two: I cut and pasted your command so whatever it was I used
[16:50] <gmachine_24> Seven_Six_Two, Ilutz, thanks. I'm good.
[16:51] <Seven_Six_Two> gmachine_24, if you have a sec, can you list one of the file names that you found? I am trying to figure out why we are not getting the same results.
[16:51] <planecool> hello
[16:52] <planecool> ok so i got to advaced booty optiins in linux
[16:52] <planecool> i have 3.11.0-18 generic
[16:52] <planecool> 3.11.0.-18 recorvy mode
[16:52] <planecool> i installed the wrong drivers
[16:52] <planecool> and pugred the old ones
[16:53] <bekks> planecool: Which drivers?
[16:53] <planecool> fglrx drivers for atil
[16:53] <planecool> but
[16:53] <planecool> they did not owrk
[16:53] <planecool> i then found out
[16:53] <planecool> that the only drivers aviable were the opensource ones
[16:53] <planecool> and id like to do a "system restore point"
[16:53] <planecool> or something like that
[16:54] <k1l_> planecool: could you please put more information into one line? thank you
[16:54] <bekks> There is no such thing.
[16:54] <sudormrf_PRIME> llutz: that did it! :D
[16:54] <planecool> thats what i thought.
[16:54] <sudormrf_PRIME> thanks a million :)
[16:54] <bekks> planecool: Uninstall the wrong drivers, install the correct drivers, and reboot again.
[16:54] <planecool> i don;t have acess to my os
[16:54] <gmachine_24> Seven_Six_Two: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7180366/
[16:54] <planecool> im stuckat gnu grub
[16:54] <planecool> i have generic and recorvy mode options
[16:55] <planecool> lucky generic is booting just fine
[16:55] <Seven_Six_Two> planecool, do recovery mode, and that will get you to the command prompt
[16:55] <planecool> ok.
[16:55] <llutz> Seven_Six_Two: grep -i grateful
[16:55] <planecool> im at a black screen right now
[16:56] <lxuser_> hi i'm running ubuntu saucy, and I have a problem with getty instances hogging the cpu. is that a known issue?
[16:56] <planecool> generuc dies bit wirj
[16:56] <Seven_Six_Two> llutz, sorry? I was not asking for help
[16:56] <planecool> trying recorvy mode
[16:56] <Vpex> set weechat.look.prefix_join "▬▬▶"
[16:56] <johan___> I have added a network in nautilus, but when i try to click on the server it says only root can mount it. How do i fix that? I tried gksudo nautilus but then the network doesnt show up!
[16:57] <planecool> is it f12 that gets u to those options?
[16:57] <llutz> Seven_Six_Two: no offense, i just answered your question " I am trying to figure out why we are not getting the same results."
[16:57] <planecool> i need to boot in recorvy mode
[16:57] <bekks> planecool: you can boot into whatever mode is working.
[16:57] <planecool> how do i get to gnu grub
[16:57] <planecool> all they different versions
[16:58] <planecool> f12?
[16:58] <bekks> planecool: Stop pressing enter all the time.
[16:58] <planecool> sorry
[16:58] <iuza> shift
[16:58] <bekks> planecool: you are at the grub menu when you can see the entries for recovery mode, generic, etc.
[16:58] <gmachine_24> Seven_Six_Two: you got my refer to pastebin, correct?
[16:58] <planecool> how do i get there
[16:58] <planecool> i was jsut there
[16:59] <bekks> !grub2 | planecool
[16:59] <planecool> brb googling
[16:59] <bekks> planecool: dont have to google. ;)
[16:59] <planecool> i know
[16:59] <Seven_Six_Two> gmachine_24, no, I didn't get anything
[16:59] <planecool> im 16 and decided to main linux
[16:59] <Seven_Six_Two> gmachine_24, did you paste a pastebin url here?
[17:00] <bekks> planecool: whatever that sentence means. All you have to do is to follow the links given.
[17:00] <gmachine_24> Seven_Six_Two: ok here it is again http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7180366/ I did paste it b4 no big deal
[17:00] <michagogo|cloud> Um, I just clicked the "Upgrade..." button in an old raring VM
[17:00] <planecool> ahift or esc
[17:00] <michagogo|cloud> The window that opened after I entered my password is telling me this:
[17:01] <michagogo|cloud> Welcome to Ubuntu 'Saucy Salamander' development release
[17:01] <michagogo|cloud> And then in italics: This is still a BETA release. Do not install it on production machines.
[17:01] <k1l_> michagogo|cloud: was this installed/updated when it was in development?
[17:02] <michagogo|cloud> Full text: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7180392/
[17:02] <michagogo|cloud> k1l_: I'm pretty sure the answer is no
[17:02] <Seven_Six_Two> michagogo|cloud, install cd?
[17:02] <michagogo|cloud> Seven_Six_Two: Hmm?
[17:02] <k1l_> michagogo|cloud: run a "sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" that will bring you the latest 13.10 updates
[17:02] <michagogo|cloud> k1l_: Erm, I'm on raring
[17:02] <michagogo|cloud> Not Saucy
[17:02] <sudormrf_PRIME> is modifying the grub.cfg still safe to do?  I am looking at this: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/how-to-disable-grub-2-menu-even-after-server-crash-796562/
[17:02] <sudormrf_PRIME> that was posted in 2010
[17:02] <michagogo|cloud> I'm trying to upgrade to Saucy
[17:03] <sudormrf_PRIME> at the top of grub.cfg it says not to edit the file
[17:03] <k1l_> michagogo|cloud: how did you try to upgrade?
[17:03] <michagogo|cloud> k1l_: update-manager -d, clicked "Upgrade..." when told that my release was no longer getting updates
[17:03] <michagogo|cloud> It asked for my password, and then gave me http://paste.ubuntu.com/7180392/
[17:03] <k1l_> michagogo|cloud: there you go. please think about what the "-d" is
[17:03] <sudormrf_PRIME> or is there a better way to accomplish what that guy does in that thread?
[17:04] <Seven_Six_Two> michagogo|cloud, -d is to force for dev releases.
[17:04] <michagogo|cloud> k1l_: Hmm? I don't know what that is
[17:04] <michagogo|cloud> I just followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SaucyUpgrades
[17:04] <michagogo|cloud> Ah.
[17:04] <llutz> sudormrf_PRIME: grub.cfg will be overwritten on every "update-grub", look at /etc/grub.d/00_header
[17:04] <michagogo|cloud> So what should I do to upgrade to Saucy?
[17:04] <k1l_> michagogo|cloud: rule number one: dont run commands you dont know. "-d" is for development release.
[17:04] <sudormrf_PRIME> llutz: yeah.  would this work “GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=N” in /etc/default/grub?
[17:04] <sudormrf_PRIME> where n is time
[17:04] <k1l_> michagogo|cloud: so you just didnt found a bug. you just found that it works like it should
[17:05] <michagogo|cloud> k1l_: Well, I'm sure countless people have made the same mistake, following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SaucyUpgrades
[17:05] <michagogo|cloud> So what's the correct way to upgrade?
[17:05] <k1l_> michagogo|cloud: all without the "-d"
[17:05] <michagogo|cloud> Oh, just looked at update-manager --help
[17:05] <michagogo|cloud> Looks like -c does what I'm looking for?
[17:06] <llutz> sudormrf_PRIME: you have to check the /etc/grub.d/* files if that VAR would be read and used somewhere, i doubt it will be by default
[17:06] <k1l_> michagogo|cloud: just remove the "-d" that is all
[17:06] <sudormrf_PRIME> llutz: checking.  thanks :)
[17:06] <michagogo|cloud> Ah, okay
[17:06] <michagogo|cloud> Ah, there we go, that looks like the normal release notes
[17:07] <sudormrf_PRIME> llutz: looks like it is there
[17:08] <ShabaDabaDoo> Howdy folks... I have a question about installing ubuntu... what are the odds it will recognize my gtx680 and use it automatically?
[17:08] <michagogo|cloud> Someone should really fix https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SaucyUpgrades...
[17:08] <Seven_Six_Two> ShabaDabaDoo, is that nvidia?
[17:08] <ShabaDabaDoo> yes
[17:08] <llutz> sudormrf_PRIME: ah    /etc/grub.d/00_header:  set timeout=${GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT:--1}        so it should work
[17:08] <sudormrf_PRIME> llutz: sweet.  that sorts me out for the day :D
[17:09] <sudormrf_PRIME> llutz: thanks again.
[17:09] <Seven_Six_Two> ShabaDabaDoo, it's likely you will have no trouble at all.
[17:09] <ShabaDabaDoo> Thanks 762
[17:10] <lxuser_> hi. i'm running ubuntu saucy/13.10, and I have a problem with getty instances hogging the cpu. cmdline args are `/sbin/getty -8 38400 tty<num>`.  also,  running ltrace -p shows that they are looping on `__ctype_b_loc() = <some address>; read(0, "", 1) = 0`. any fix?
[17:12] <anonynimity> hello.
[17:12] <cfhowlett> anonynimnity, greetings.  what is your ubuntu question?
[17:14] <jeffrey_f> !ask|anonynimity
[17:15] <anonynimity> I'm having issues with ubuntu if I run curl or ls I get errors saying is located in /usr/bin/ls
[17:15] <bhargav> hi
[17:15] <anonynimity> and /usr/bin/curl respectively
[17:16] <michagogo|cloud> Hm. Am I missing something? I don't see a "yes" button. http://i.imgur.com/U1ha4na.png
[17:16] <arvut> does ubuntu need the linux-headers that are stored in /usr/src or can I remove those? (~600M)
[17:16] <cfhowlett> !saucy
[17:16] <k1l_> michagogo|cloud: hold the alt-key and push the window upwards
[17:16] <Guest92184> could u explain clearly........@michagogo
[17:16] <lxuser_> hi. is it normal to be running both `ngetty 1 2 3 4 5 6` and `/sbin/getty -8 38400 tty<num>`? I'm wondering is this is causing my issue.
[17:16] <michagogo|cloud> k1l_: thanks
[17:17] <jeffrey_f> michagogo|cloud: Yes, some windows I've noticed are too big for the screen.  Probably should be put in as a bug, no?
[17:17] <nashant> Hey, does nyone know if it's possible to create a USB stick with multiple partitions (including an EFI one), and make a multi-installer from it?
[17:17] <k1l_> arvut: dont remove them manually. remove the linux-headers-..... packages. you only need the ones matching your intsalled kernels
[17:17] <anonynimity> michagogo|cloud it looks like your yes button is off the page.
[17:17] <michagogo|cloud> anonynimity: It was. k1l_ solved the problem.
[17:17] <arvut> k1l_: k, so with apt-get or aptitude then?
[17:18] <dfk12> Does anyone know where the categories get assigned from /usr/local/share/applications/<program>.desktop into menu items. example: python.desktop has categories=Development; where does that turn into a "Programming" menu item.
[17:18] <k1l_> arvut: yes, i would recommend apt-get
[17:18] <dfk12> and by whom
[17:18] <arvut> k1l_: what's the recommended syntax for removing them with apt-get then?
[17:19] <arvut> and why do you recommend apt-get before aptitude?
[17:19] <k1l_> arvut: apt-get remove packagename
[17:19] <Guest92184> can anyone help me i have a problem with my skype app, during the call, the app gets exist automatically
[17:19] <k1l_> arvut: aptitude had problems with multiarch
[17:19] <arvut> oh
[17:20] <llutz> dfk12: does the .desktop file have a "Categories=foo" entry?
[17:21] <llutz> k1l_: shouldn't those multiarch problems been fixed since a while?
[17:21] <arvut> also, is there a way to disable global menu and how do I move the close/minimize/maximize buttons to the other side of the window (like it used to be pre-11.04)?
[17:21] <dfk12> llutz: yes, but i want to know who makes this categorizations and for what? example firefox.desktop has Categories=GNOME;GTK;Network;WebBrowser;
[17:21] <k1l_> arvut: see unity-tweak-tool
[17:22] <ahmadgbg> Hi, im using Ubuntu server and i have setup my web server with apache, webmin and virtualmin. What is the best way to get a email like info@domain.com to send and recieve?
[17:22] <llutz> dfk12: who = i'd guess the package-maintainer. for what=....idk
[17:23] <semaj81> Well.. I'm trying to dual boot.. Got Windows 8.1 x64 installed, and Ubuntu installer says NO OS found and wants to erase the entire disk...
[17:23] <dfk12> llutz: mystery intensifies...
[17:23] <llutz> dfk12: sry can't help, i misread your question
[17:23] <cfhowlett> !server|ahmadgbg, see the server channel
[17:24] <Beldar> !uefi | semaj81
[17:24] <semaj81> I read through that.. but I'll keep trying! :-) Never give up! :-)
[17:24] <ahmadgbg> ubottu: thanks
[17:24] <Beldar> semaj81, More info on these installs. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[17:25] <semaj81> Thanks I'll check it out.. :-)
[17:29] <TJ-> dfk12: http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apa.html
[17:30] <dfk12> TJ-: wauw, thats cancer. I heard someone said freedesktop.org did that. but wauw
[17:30] <dfk12> TJ-: thanks for the link though
[17:34] <nashant> Hey, does nyone know if it's possible to create a USB stick with multiple partitions (including an EFI one), and make a multi-installer from it?
[17:35] <Beldar> nashant, there are multirom loaders, what is the efi issue here?
[17:36] <Beldar> multi-iso really
[17:36] <arvut> k1l_: thx
[17:39] <arvut> k1l_: what happens if I remove the kernels manually from /usr/src btw? is it something that goes boom?
[17:39] <lxuser_> hi. i'm running ubuntu saucy/13.10, and I have a problem with getty instances hogging the cpu. cmdline args are `/sbin/getty -8 38400 tty<num>`.  also,  running ltrace -p shows that they are looping on `__ctype_b_loc() = <some address>; read(0, "", 1) = 0`. any fix?
[17:39] <k1l_> arvut: dont do stuff around the package system unless you know what and why you are doing that.
[17:39] <k1l_> arvut: it is very easy with the package system, so stick to that
[17:40] <jotaxpe> Hola, tengo ubuntu 12.04, me gustaria saber si se puede configurar el indicador de red , para poder ver además el porcentaje de señal de cada red
[17:40] <arvut> well, from compiling gentoo and copying kernels from that dir to /boot, I really can't see why it would be dangerous. so if you could explain why then I'd be very happy =)
[17:43] <arvut> is there a cd version of a stripped down ubuntu available for download btw? or just dvd sized iso's?
[17:43]  * Johnny_Linux goes boom
[17:43] <llutz> !mini | arvut
[17:44] <arvut> I just need a environment with ubuntufriendly tools for resizing / and /home
[17:44] <arvut> and gparted cd is just way too slow to download (over 1h
[17:44] <arvut> )
[17:44] <iuza> arvut: lubuntu is just 670 mb
[17:44] <llutz> arvut: http://gparted.org/livecd.php
[17:45] <llutz> arvut: ups, too slow i was
[17:45] <arvut> =)
[17:45] <Doctor_N1ck> I am having some seriously confounding samba issues
[17:45] <arvut> llutz: dvorak is an amazing layout :P
[17:45] <Doctor_N1ck> I have two pcs, one server running ubuntu, and another running windows 7.
[17:46] <lxuser_> hi. is it normal to be running both `ngetty 1 2 3 4 5 6` and `/sbin/getty -8 38400 tty<num>`? I'm wondering is this is causing my issue.
[17:46] <Doctor_N1ck> My write speeds from the win computer to the samba share are 116MB/s, but my read speeds are 16MB/s
[17:47] <Doctor_N1ck> and I've tried all the smb.conf tweaks that are supposed to help, strict allocate, TCP_NODELAY, read raw, etc
[17:48] <arvut> Doctor_N1ck: maybe its a QoS issue?
[17:49] <Doctor_N1ck> Quality of Service?
[17:49] <arvut> yeah
[17:49] <Doctor_N1ck> how so?
[17:49] <Doctor_N1ck> I've done a iperf test, i've gotten 1Gb/s both ways
[17:50] <siriusnova> hi guys
[17:50] <Doctor_N1ck> and I benched the Raid array speeds, its all working fine there
[17:50] <arvut> well, read should be faster, shouldn't it? and since its across a network (right?) then there might be something thats limiting it
[17:50] <siriusnova> anyone here try to install ubuntu 13.10 on a system with ONLY an amd gpu/cpu combo
[17:50] <arvut> oh
[17:50] <siriusnova> im trying to and it boots to a black screen and X fails so I cant install it :(
[17:50] <siriusnova> with nomodeset
[17:50] <shivy> hi, i have a pulseaudio problems, where i can get help for this topic
[17:50] <siriusnova> any ideas? :(
[17:51] <arvut> Doctor_N1ck: no idea then, i haven't used samba that much. gl with it
[17:51] <p014k> Something is wrong with my ssh server. I haven't changed any settings and when I try to login remotely, it says the password is incorrect. I went to the server and logged off of that user and logged back in using the password I've always used and it worked. I checked my keymap and it's fine, I also restarted the ssh server and I cleared my known_hosts file on my laptop. Any ideas?
[17:52] <jeffrey_f> shivy: What version are you running????
[17:53] <cfhowlett> arvut, you seem to have an compulsion to experiment with critical components.  I suggest you indulge this compulsion.  Install virtualbox.  Install a *buntu on Vbox and break away.  Then you will truly KNOW what happens when you do "X".
[17:53] <shivy> Im running 1.1 version of pulseaudio on ubuntustudio 12.04
[17:54] <bernd_> hi
[17:54] <shivy> I dont se the actual audio level, and i cant record sound from monitor of device
[17:56] <jeffrey_f> shivy: is that 12.04 LTS??
[17:56] <shivy> yes it is 12.04 LTS
[17:56] <Vpex> [color]
[17:56] <Vpex> bar_more = red
[17:56] <Vpex> chat = white
[17:56] <Vpex> chat_bg = default
[17:56] <Vpex> chat_buffer = white
[17:56] <Vpex> chat_channel = white
[17:56] <unopaste`> Vpex you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[17:58] <shivy> i trying reinstall the pulseaudio and gstreamer, but it did not help. I can listen sound from my soundcard normally, but the problem is to capture the sound from monitor of soundcard and see the audio level. It did happen after last system update.
[18:02] <jeffrey_f> shivy: see if this helps   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1915443
[18:03] <shivy> thank you i'll try it
[18:04] <jeffrey_f> shivy: I had issues around that time.  The regular relase (13.10) have fixed many other issues, including that one.
[18:08] <o------> hi
[18:08] <jeffrey_f> !ask|o------
[18:08] <o------> how do i turn off password tin ubuntu
[18:09] <ReV-> clear
[18:09] <ReV-> oops
[18:09] <ReV-> mint
[18:09] <sadpuppy> reset
[18:09] <jeffrey_f> o------: you want to automatically log in?
[18:10] <o------> i just hate putting it in the install and when the screen goes off
[18:11] <Beldar> o------, The brightness/lock gui has a on off for that.
[18:11] <o------> im new to ubuntu
[18:13] <jeffrey_f> o------: Asking for the password for admin related tasks is one of the security levels Ubuntu has.  Meaning, without it, it is plausible that stuff could run (ie virus??) without your consent (MS Windows???).
[18:15] <jeffrey_f> o------: You can do it if you want, just be advised that you open your system to security risks.  A password is a small inconvenience
[18:16] <se_b> hello, someone know how to setup the e372 hspa+ modem?
[18:17] <afthv> I am connecting to an public wifi network, and internet speed is very slow (by very slow I mean it takes a very long time to open google). But when i try to play an online multiplayer game the internet is fine (ping: 60ms). And I have dual boot with windows 7 - on windows internet speed is fine. Is there any fix for this? (i use wifi antenna - "AirLive WL1700USB"). Thanks for any help.
[18:19] <Beldar> se_b, Find what the e372 is called by running lsusb in the terminal, general advice here is get one that plugs and works, they are cheap.
[18:21] <Left_Turn> !linux
[18:22] <o------> ok i found it thank you ever munch here where my setting   turn screen off   ( NEVER )    LOCK  ( turned off )   require  my password  when waking up  turned  OFF   are my setting now
[18:22] <Meerkat> my sound is suddenly messed up. Everyone sounds like r2d2 in mumble. Using xubuntu 13.10.
[18:22] <se_b> i did a search on google but i found no guide.. output from lsusb is Bus 002 Device 003: ID 12d1:1446 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E1552/E1800/E173 (HSPA modem)
[18:23] <Uncopyable> hi folks. Does anyone know how to change cursor size? It doesn't work in "Mouse and Touchpad>Theme" for me
[18:24] <shivy> Ok i solved the problem with no audio level in pulseaudio. I try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/324703/pulseaudio-not-monitoring-any-audio-output-i-e-projectm-cannot-work-properly
[18:24] <shivy> Thanks
[18:25] <javahorn> Hello
[18:25] <arvut> just one more quick question, when i autoremoved linux-headers-3.2.0-5*, it also removed a -60 image (which is the currently used one according to uname -r).. have I now done something terribly wrong or was apt-get just removing the junk that was left behind when ubuntu updated to latest kernel?
[18:25] <arvut> it removed -33 and up
[18:25] <ntz_> i have 2 different physical servers both with virtualmin installed. server1 has DNS for domain.tld and managed to make it point to server2 for subdomain.domain.tld (external IP of server2) but now i want to have sub.subdomain.domain.tld public_html files also being on server2. how does one go for something like that?
[18:25] <ntz_> not an alias
[18:26] <llutz> arvut: dpkg -l linux-image-$(uname -r)
[18:26] <arvut> ah, another number at the end of it
[18:26] <arvut> .91 =)
[18:27] <arvut> what does pae stand for btw?
[18:27] <llutz> arvut: more important the 2 chars at beginning of the line
[18:27] <llutz> !pae
[18:27] <arvut> oh, so its a 64bit function then
[18:27] <arvut> a USE-flag?
[18:27] <Beldar> se_b, I see one ubuntu forum thread is all, this device is supposed to install what is needed when plugged in, I doubt it will do it in linux, I see no linux links on the web, or there web site.
[18:28] <Beldar> their*
[18:28] <llutz> arvut: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[18:28] <arvut> aha
[18:28] <arvut> but its built into the kernel as a module, right?
[18:29] <llutz> arvut: not a module, kernel-function
[18:29] <arvut> k
[18:30] <ntz_> i have 2 different physical servers both with virtualmin installed. server1 has DNS for domain.tld and managed to make it point to server2 for subdomain.domain.tld (external IP of server2) but now i want to have sub.subdomain.domain.tld public_html files also being on server2. how does one go for something like that?
[18:31] <javahorn> Need guidance for 64 bit workstation
[18:35] <afthv> (tl;dr wireless internet very slow on linux, while on widnows (dual-boot) its fine) I am connecting to an public wifi network, and internet speed is very slow (by very slow I mean it takes a very long time to open google). But when i try to play an online multiplayer game the internet is fine (ping: 60ms). And I have dual boot with windows 7 - on windows internet speed is fine. Is there any fix for this? (i use wifi antenna - "AirLive 
[18:38] <xar-> !ask | javahorn
[18:39] <o------> you kinda haft to explain to know what going on dont you
[18:40] <javahorn> Thanks xar-
[18:40] <javahorn> i have a 32 bit machine
[18:41] <javahorn> but have to run 64 bit application
[18:41] <javahorn> how i can setup virtual 64 bit machine(hosted kind of)
[18:41] <guest83112> I'm designing a webpage using LibreOffice Draw HTML designer.   When I add a control --> Label Field, to add text to my webpage, the text label won't show in the browser when i test the html file.  I checked the html code and libreoffice isn't outputting the html code for the label text.   I can't get any label text to show on my webpage.
[18:41] <llutz> javahorn: virtualbox can do that
[18:42] <xar-> javahorn: /join #vbox
[18:42] <javahorn> thanks llutz , which virtual box?
[18:42] <javahorn> thanks xar- , any further idea?
[18:42] <llutz> !info virtualbox
[18:43] <guest83112> I'm using LibreOffice 4.1.3.2 in Lubuntu 13.10  (downloaded libreoffice from the ubuntu repo with apt-get)  but this Draw --> Controls --> Label Field isn't working.
[18:44] <guest83112> I believe it's a bug in libreoffice draw html designer
[18:45] <opticnerv> hello everyone !
[18:45] <llutz> guest83112: you could ask in #libreoffice      or  #libreoffice-dev
[18:45] <jeffrey_f> guest83112: join #libreoffice
[18:47] <SuperLag> If you're using a backup service, like Crashplan... should you leave compression enabled, or will disabling it make for better file integrity? (doesn't compression occasionally cause file corruption?)
[18:49] <opticnerv> hey guys I intalled Lampp I'm trying to edit the lampp-httpd.conf file but it's  not letting me I tried changing the permissions but it wont let me
[18:49] <llutz> !lampp | opticnerv
[18:50] <llutz> !lamp | opticnerv
[18:50] <opticnerv> !xampp
[18:50] <jeffrey_f> SuperLag: Never had an issue with file corruption
[18:51] <Nety> hi
[18:51] <opticnerv> llutz thanks
[18:51] <OerHeks> opticnerv, how did you try to edit that file?
[18:52] <opticnerv> OerHeks I used ge edit
[18:55] <OerHeks> opticnerv, gksudo gedit /path/to/lampp-httpd.conf
[18:56] <chachan> guys, I have a ViritualBox machine that I'm using to code a PHP app. Both are ubuntu and I'm having this situation: I'm sharing through NFS a folder where is my code using a host-only interface. I mounted a bind point from my workspace to /export/workspace in the server. And I mounted that exported directory in my home directory on the client, and then I'm mounting a bind directory to link it to the apache public directory
[18:56] <rysiek|pl> ohai
[18:57] <rysiek|pl> just a short question, google is of not much use -- does the toram bootparam work for ubuntu 13.10?
[18:57] <chachan> The problem is that is taking a while to applies the modifications I do through my IDE
[18:57] <rysiek|pl> it *seems* it should, but just tried it and it appears not to.
[18:58] <chachan> any idea?, I'm thinking about adding sync option to my bind mounting points but I'm not sure
[18:59] <Flannel> chachan: So, your PHP file changes are taking a while to show up in the web browser?
[18:59] <rysiek|pl> welp, nevermind, the magic option was "toram", not "toram=yes"
[18:59] <chachan> Flannel, not in the browser but in the file system
[19:03] <gabor> hi
[19:04] <gabor> is there anybody here?
[19:04] <lmnsqshr> hi gabor
[19:05] <lmnsqshr> if you have a question, just ask
[19:13] <A3D_Damir> I think that ubuntu needs to be more focused on managing other devices connected on kubuntu like phone, tablet , smart tv and stream content from kubuntu on smart TV will be great
[19:15] <afthv> (tl;dr wireless internet very slow on linux, while on widnows (dual-boot) its fine) I am connecting to an public wifi network, and internet speed is very slow (by very slow I mean it takes a very long time to open google). But when i try to play an online multiplayer game the internet is fine (ping: 60ms). And I have dual boot with windows 7 - on windows internet speed is fine. Is there any fix for this? (i use wifi antenna - "AirLive 
[19:15] <KornKage> hi i have a 1.7ghz 512mb penitum 4 sysem and i want to live boot usb a distro just so i can copy some files from a hdd to another
[19:16] <KornKage> which live usb should i choose? i have tried ubuntu 13 tryout from usb but it was soooo slow i couldnt even do anything because the system hardly rensponded
[19:19] <llutz> KornKage: use grml, systemrescuecd or whatever you want
[19:19] <KornKage> thx
[19:19] <zCoder> hi
[19:19] <zCoder> Im tryin to install device manager for mint but having trouble. After doing "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:noobslab/mint" and then "sudo apt-get update"  I get this during the udpate "W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ 404  Not Found" and "sudo apt-get install mintdrivers" does nothing.  Any idea why the fetch is failing or any idea s to what else i can do ?
[19:21] <zCoder> If any one knows, please help me
[19:22] <Nety> I'm trying to configure my vpn but I'm kinda stuck. I followd the guide to the point where one has to click on a "import" button that clear not exists. The key and everything else is in the .ovpn file but networkmanager demands a crt and key file.  How do I ?make those files out of the ovpn or how to configure it to work?
[19:22] <Nety> see here for the guide https://airvpn.org/topic/116-ubuntulinux-how-to-use-networkmanager-for-airvpn/
[19:25] <K4neda> Greetings from Venice (Italy)
[19:28] <jhutchins> !mint
[19:31] <cheosky> Hi
[19:32] <streulma> hi
[19:32] <streulma> My bluetooth is not working on Ubuntu 13.10, I have an Atheros AR9656 or AR9565 I think
[19:32] <maharshi> I am not able to creat wifi hotspot on my laptop ubuntu 13.10
[19:35] <cheosky> HI, I don't know if someone can help me with a problem in my ubuntu install
[19:36] <Nety> sudo service openvpn stop
[19:36] <cheosky> I have an old PC with an onboard Graphic card
[19:36] <Nety> darn wrong terminal
[19:36] <cheosky> and when I try to install ubuntu, it doesn't work when the installation enters in the graphics mode
[19:37] <cheosky> there are a lot of colour lines in the screen
[19:37] <cheosky> the card is a via chrome HC IGP
[19:37] <o------> hi
[19:38] <cheosky> It does the same when I run other linux based live CD's, like "clonezilla"
[19:38] <o------> i need help please
[19:38] <fanzeyi> Hi, is there any nice tutorial for re-compiling kernel module in ubuntu? thank you =)
[19:39] <A3D_Damir> it will be nice if we can before login into ubuntu to get option which graphic to use and which driver  SO IF USER GETS  BLACK SCREEN HE HAVE OPTION WITH EMERGENCY SHOURCUT KEYS TO LOG OUT AND LOGIN WITH OTHER DRIVERS :)
[19:39] <mrmaharshi> I am not able to create wifi hot spot on my laptop dell. ubuntu 13.10
[19:41] <A3D_Damir> IF THERE ARE IN EACH APP  DESCRIPTION HOW TO USE IT OR JUST HOW TO INSTALL IT IF IS DPKG  THERE WILL BE LESS QUESTIONS
[19:41] <llutz> A3D_Damir: drop caps pls
[19:42] <omar__> Hi all.
[19:43] <omar__> I am trying to start gpaste from the Gnome Tweak Tool, but for some reason Tweak Tool does not show an extensions section. Why would that be? :/
[19:43] <angelica> I'm having a problem when I login that I'm just returning to the login screen.  The odd thing is the guest session will login fine but not the primary account
[19:44] <angelica> oh yeah, I'm using 14.04... is there another channel for that?
[19:44] <A3D_Damir> ohh sorry I was in running
[19:44] <llutz> angelica: #ununtu+1
[19:44] <llutz> angelica: #ubuntu+1
[19:45] <llutz> A3D_Damir: besides this is offtopic here: most apps come with documentation/man-pages, but users tend to ignore that, because reading docu is uncool.
[19:46] <o------> in my UBUNTU ICON where you all search for FILES under that it says RECENT FILES and DOWNLOADS it shows files underneath   them  both      RECENT FILES   and   DOWNLOADS how do i clear them
[19:47] <A3D_Damir> any help i hit update today and there I get in virtualbox
[19:47] <A3D_Damir> Failed to create the VirtualBox COM object.
[19:47] <A3D_Damir> The application will now terminate.
[19:47] <A3D_Damir> Start tag expected, '<' not found.
[19:47] <A3D_Damir> hmmm try to remove , delete folder and again install
[19:47] <A3D_Damir> but again the same
[19:49] <o------> how do i get rid of the files showing UNDERNEATH the RECENT  FILES and what shows up underneath the  DOWNLOADS
[19:50] <o------> in the search     UBUNTU  sysmble   looking icon on the desktop
[19:51] <Spike1996> I am euphoric I where a fedora
[19:51] <Spike1996> as I Linux
[19:52] <o------> do you about ubuntu
[19:52] <o------> spike
[19:52] <Spike1996> when im butter
[19:52] <Spike1996> ya
[19:54] <o------> how do i get rid of the files underneath the RECENT FILE and the DOWNLOADS files in the UBUNTU  looking icon
[19:54] <Spike1996> bye gona go play touhou on my linux
[19:55] <Nety> is there no nm-system-settings in 13.10?
[19:55] <Izaya> Question: for some reason, my connection seems to run slower on Ubuntu than in Windows 7 - is there a way to resolve this issue and/or at least test it?
[19:56] <ShabaDabaDoo> Hey Izaya, how are you testing your connection?
[19:56] <ShabaDabaDoo> or are you just going off the seat of the pants page load feel of it?
[19:56] <Izaya> I haven't as of yet, I just notice that my Dropbox connection seems to run slower
[19:56] <Izaya> that.
[19:57] <Izaya> I'm just kind of going by the "sense" of the connection speed. For example, my Dropbox connection upload/download rate seems to be much slower than the normal
[19:57] <A3D_Damir> Izaya .speedtest.net
[19:57] <Nety> ah, nm-system-settings has been replaced by networkmanager.conf
[19:57] <okt> I lost power to a machine, and how grub can't seem to get the os to boot. It's an EFI based install. When I get a chroot up and running on the live cd how can I "reinstall" grub for the lvm partition??
[19:58] <A3D_Damir> Izaya you try to use firefox its much faster then chrome and takes lower resurses
[19:58] <Izaya> A3D_Damir I'll give it a whirl. I always thought Chrome was faster?
[19:58] <ShabaDabaDoo> not always...
[19:59] <Izaya> and Dropbox is actually a program running in the background.
[19:59] <Izaya> is it possible that, since Ubuntu One is constantly running, it's eating up some of my upload/download rate?
[19:59] <ShabaDabaDoo> has anyone played with an nvidia 6-series, and qhd-over-hdmi with ubuntu?
[20:00] <Foxhoundz> I installed ffmpeg using sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[20:00] <Izaya> unfortunately I have not ShabaDabaDoo
[20:00] <Foxhoundz> but it doesn't seem to convert mp3s
[20:00] <Foxhoundz> is there a ppa that has compiled ffmpegs with liblame enabled?
[20:00] <Foxhoundz> compiling from source sounds scary to me
[20:01] <angelica> anyone able to help me with a login issue?
[20:01] <A3D_Damir> Izaya you can test that if you change in chrome settings dont allow apps to run in background when is chrome off  and then use system monitor to check RAM try firefox 10 youtube pages and then try with chrome
[20:02] <Izaya> upload speed 2 mbps, download speed 0.86 mbps
[20:02] <Izaya> in chrome
[20:03] <A3D_Damir> angelica you just  try to shutdown laptop and then turn it ON when you get login screen try to find any other option before typing pass to change UNITY , docky   display
[20:04] <angelica> A3D_Damir, I've rebooted multiple times.
[20:05] <ShabaDabaDoo> when trying to add a custom resolution to x with xrandr, I use the port designation shown in the properties output, right?
[20:05] <angelica> A3D_Damir, not sure what "change UNITY , docky   display" means though
[20:07] <Izaya> Chrome was a lot faster
[20:07] <Izaya> download speed on Firefox 0.74 mbps
[20:07] <Izaya> when I turned off the Ubuntu One cloud syncing I got up to 1 mbps download speed
[20:07] <A3D_Damir> angelica it just means what will be your display desktop settings or you just try to login like guest if that wont help just reinstall system will help you fast and quick
[20:07] <Beldar> the browser should have nothing to do with download speeds
[20:08] <Izaya> oddly Beldar, they gave starkly different rates.
[20:08] <Izaya> a whole 120 kbps or more
[20:08] <Beldar> in your tests yes, but that is faulty research is all.
[20:08] <A3D_Damir> Izaya chrome may be faster but im saying its taking more resurses then firefox you can try use one then another for week
[20:09] <Izaya> gotcha A3D_Damir, and I know what you mean Beldar. A connection is a connection is a connection.
[20:09] <Beldar> ;)
[20:09] <A3D_Damir> baldar thumbs UP
[20:09] <o------> how do i get rid of the files underneath the RECENT FILES and DOWNLOADS in the search the    UBUNTU     looking like icon on your desktop            i talking about after you click on it  i new to UBUNTU and thank you
[20:09] <Izaya> I'm going to be a Comp Sci / Information Tech student this fall... and I know enough to know what you mean Beldar. :-P I just don't want to believe it I guess hahaha
[20:09] <omar_> Hi all.
[20:09] <angelica> A3D_Damir, I can login as guest
[20:10] <Izaya> hi omar_
[20:11] <Beldar> Izaya, Heh, yeah, the academic environment drills it in.
[20:11] <o------> hi
[20:11] <A3D_Damir> angelica the fast way is just to reinstall the system if its hard for you to find solution,
[20:11] <omar_> I am using Ubuntu 13.10 in the default Gnome interface, but the battery icon seems empty (i.e no battery illustration, but reveals battery status when clicked). How do fix that?
[20:11] <o------> is this room for help
[20:11] <Izaya> Well, and it's logical in terms of physical science. The speed of light through fiber etc etc.
[20:12] <Izaya> or conduction through cable.
[20:12] <Izaya> however you want to word it :-P
[20:12] <guntbert> o------: for Ubuntu, yes
[20:12] <o------> i been trying to ask somthing i dont think you all saw it
[20:12] <hko> Where do I change whats starting on startup?
[20:13] <Mocque> hi, i need help
[20:13] <angelica> A3D_Damir, was helped by trism in main channel.  Turns out ~/.Xauthority being owned by root creates those symptoms.  A quick delete of that file fixes it
[20:13] <Izaya> hko: system settings?
[20:13] <Izaya> then go to Details
[20:13] <o------> in my UBUNTU ICON where you all search for FILES under that it says RECENT FILES and DOWNLOADS it shows files underneath   them  both      RECENT FILES   and   DOWNLOADS how do i clear them
[20:13] <Beldar> Mocque, State the issues to the channel for help.
[20:13] <Izaya> (I think)
[20:14] <Mocque> when i entered wget command in terminal in fedora 13, it shown command not found...
[20:14] <Beldar> Mocque, You want #fedora this is ubuntu
[20:14] <Mocque> Yet still related to linux
[20:14] <Mocque> #fedora seems ghost town
[20:14] <angelica> * +1 channel I meant
[20:14] <Beldar> Mocque, This is ubuntu support is all there is ##linux
[20:15] <guntbert> !repeat | o------ (no need for the CAPS)
[20:15] <Mocque> Hhmmm.. is this case in your knowledge? i really need to solve this.
[20:15] <OerHeks> o------, system settings > privacy > recent items
[20:15] <A3D_Damir> the google is nice friend for questions
[20:16] <Beldar> Mocque, Would not matter I can't give help on fedora per channel norms.
[20:16] <o------> some times used for   hi  lighting    sorry about that
[20:16] <o------> caps
[20:17] <xar-> Mocque: sudo updatedb; locate wget;
[20:17] <Beldar> heh easy find, install wget, https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/7821/bash-wget-command-not-found-what-do-i-do/
[20:17] <OerHeks> yummie
[20:18] <Beldar> lol, yeah
[20:18] <tlp_> I have Ubuntu12.04 and inside VM with windoes. do you know whether it is possible to recover files from the virtual machine?
[20:19] <ShabaDabaDoo> should be able to mount a livedisk iso and boot the machine from that i would think
[20:19] <Beldar> tlp_, You can at the least boot a live ISO in the vm and get in, what is the actual problem?
[20:21] <o------> oerheks thank you come caps i use like a     hi lighted marker or for understanding where i at sorry
[20:21] <fhassan> Any chance of Trusty team doing the work of 18 days in 9, and release it on April 8 (end-data of Windows XP support) and then advertising the heck out of it? has this topic been discussed at all?
[20:21] <o------> i goti it
[20:22] <fhassan> *end-date
[20:22] <tlp_> I cannot boot but I can use the tty on recovery mode (  i am not experienced ) so I try to recover the documents inside the VM
[20:22] <streulma> tlp_ try to boot from a live dvd
[20:23] <Beldar> fhassan, Maybe in #ubuntu-offtopic this is support
[20:23] <streulma> hello, my Bluetooth isn't working at all :( I have an Atheros AR9565 with wireless and co bluetooth, I enabled the option co with modprobe but it didn't work
[20:23] <tlp_> i did boot with the boot-repair but it did not work. It said sth like (the system is on EFI mode but not any EFI system was detected.)
[20:24] <fhassan> @Beldar, thanks
[20:25] <MidnightDevil> hi
[20:26] <MidnightDevil> I'm using the latest 14.04, can I still install gnome shell? Or can I add some plugins to the current gnome 3.10 ?
[20:26] <junknoun> if I am sshd into my ubuntu computer... would it be possible to run a command that would launch something on my screen that is running
[20:26] <Beldar> MidnightDevil, #ubuntu+1 is the 14.04 channel.
[20:27] <junknoun> I ask because I was laying in bed and was curious if I could run google-chrome http://pandora.com and start pandora without getting off my ass :P
[20:27] <MidnightDevil> Thanks Beldar
[20:28] <junknoun> so like you can switch consoles with ctrl-alt-f1 etc.... ctrl alt f7 brings up desktop.... is it possible to run a command to that desktop through one of the other consoles?
[20:28] <drf> list
[20:29] <Anon4-6> hi everybody !
[20:30] <streulma> any toughts for AR9565 ?
[20:30] <streulma> does someone ping a light in his head ?
[20:31] <chachan> guys, I'm sharing a folder through NFS between my PC and a virtualbox instance through a host-only interface. The problem is that when I change a file in the server, this change is not being applied in the client, I need to "touch" the file so I can see the change, any idea?
[20:32] <Anon4-6> Hello ! I've got a question: How to do 3d modelisation on ubuntu 13.10 ? (Does sketchup is successfully fonctionnally ?)
[20:37] <guest83112> chachan:  Do you have to "sudo touch" the file? If so, sounds like the regular user doesn't have permission to write to the shared folder.
[20:37] <chachan> guest83112, without soud
[20:37] <chachan> guest83112, without sudo*
[20:38] <trism> junknoun: usually works fine if you set the right DISPLAY, such as: DISPLAY=:0 google-chrome http://pandora.com;
[20:41] <ice9> windows corner looks smooth on an old 14 monitor but on the HD laptop screen it's not
[20:44] <guest83112> chachan:  If all else fails, open nautilus as root for the shared folder:  gksudo nautilus
[20:45] <chachan> guest83112, what's the point about that?
[20:45] <guest83112> usually works for saving to the destination folder
[20:45] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> anyone know if you install applications while using a live cd, when you install or use persistence, if they will install with it?
[20:46] <chachan> guest83112, some like a terrible practice, even more it works without including a root user
[20:47] <chachan> sounds*
[20:47] <guntbert> chachan: +1
[20:47] <guest83112> i should have said 'sudoer' instead of root, but you get the idea..brute force the mother
[20:47] <faiss> i have a problem to install realtek ethernet NIC seeking r8169 driver
[20:48] <faiss> INSTALL /home/fai/Downloads/r8169-6.018.00/src/r8169.ko
[20:48] <faiss> Can't read private key
[20:48] <faiss>   DEPMOD  3.11.0-18-generic
[20:51] <kostkon> faiss, what are you trying to do
[20:51] <Beldar> Waka_Flocka_Flam, No a live cd/usb just install the OS on the iso.
[20:51] <Beldar> installs*
[20:52] <jayanth> hey anyone there ?
[20:52] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> oh, so it doesnt do anything loaded into memory
[20:52] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> thanks Beldar
[20:52] <daftykins> jayanth: if you have a question, ask away
[20:52] <Beldar> no prob
[20:52] <jayanth> i tried installing ubuntu server on my PC
[20:52] <jayanth> it didn't work
[20:53] <jayanth> when i tried ubuntu desktop, it was smooth
[20:53] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> faiss: does this help? https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Realtek_8169_driver_problem
[20:53] <Beldar> Waka_Flocka_Flam, You do have options however. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[20:53] <jayanth> but can't get the server installed
[20:53] <k1l_> jayanth: what didnt work exactly?
[20:53] <k1l_> !details | jayanth
[20:54] <faiss> kostkon, i am trying to install a driver for my realtek r8169
[20:54] <orlox> Hello. What do I need to install to print to PDF in Ubuntu 13.10? I don't know how this was installed - some stuff is missing I think
[20:54] <kostkon> faiss, the driver is already in ubuntu. and it should work fine. how do i  know it? i'm currently using it: Driver:            r8169  State:             connected  as you can see
[20:54] <jayanth> it says kernel installation error
[20:54] <joseph07_> Looking for insight here: I've running 13.10 and the X server is seg faulting on startup after an update. Looks like the error is occurring in libXfont
[20:55] <faiss> kostkon, on 12.04 it works fine, but on 13.10 it doesnt
[20:55] <kostkon> faiss, yeah im on 12.04 dont know about 13.10
[20:55] <jayanth> i tried to install it, it says the  kernel install problem
[20:56] <Izaya> Interesting results from a speedtest - need some help resolving latency issues I'm having in Ubuntu.
[20:56] <jayanth> what should i do ?
[20:56] <Beldar> orlox, the pdf reader top right corner dropdown has a print
[20:56] <daftykins> jayanth: perhaps your installation media was corrupted somehow
[20:56] <catty> hi guys
[20:56] <Izaya> Speedtest for Ubuntu: Download 0.86 mbps Upload 1 mbps.
[20:56] <Izaya> Speedtest for Windows 7: Download 8.73 mbps, Upload 9.37 mbps
[20:57] <Izaya> what can I do to fix this?
[20:57] <Beldar> orlox, Document Viewer is the reader
[20:57] <jayanth> i downloaded different versions of server iso files, both 12.04 and 12.10 and 13.04
[20:57] <jayanth> none works
[20:57] <jayanth> each one gives a different problem
[20:57] <orlox> Beldar: I want to print a document TO pdf, not print a pdf
[20:57] <faiss> with lsmod it shows up when i compile the binaries but when i reboot lsmod doesnt show anything about the module
[20:57] <catty> when one generates keys for specific clients with easy-rsa2, is a password neccacery?
[20:58] <daftykins> Izaya: identify your network connection type, the hardware and driver in use, then search online to see if there are known issues
[20:58] <orlox> Beldar: Specially what I mean is, when I press 'print' in any application, I do not see 'generate pdf file' in the list of printers. I think I might need CUPS but it's depreciated or something?
[20:58] <jayanth> my PC seller says that we need different hardware for server installation, is that true ? ?
[20:58] <Izaya> kk
[20:59] <k1l_> jayanth: best is to ask here for a specific problem and to show the exact error
[20:59] <Izaya> By network connection type, could you elaborate? Wifi vs. Plug?
[20:59] <Beldar> orlox, Here is my search look at the first one. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=ubuntu+print+to+pdf&btnG=&gbv=1&sei=WoU4U_v3DKqoyAHKvYDYBQ
[20:59] <jayanth> daftykins: what should i do ?
[20:59] <k1l_> jayanth: no. ubuntu server runs on the same hardware as the desktop
[20:59] <daftykins> jayanth: were you installing from a USB flash drive?
[20:59] <Beldar> orlox, cupspdf is part of the first hit.
[21:00] <joseph07_> Anyone have any ideas about my Xorg segfault on startup? Ubuntu 13.10. Error occurred after updating. Looks like the error is in libXFont
[21:00] <kostkon> orlox, if the app uses the gnome print dialog it shoudl have an option for outputting to pdf. if not, you can install the cups-pdf printer  cups is maintained by apple and used in mac os x and linux. not depreciated at all
[21:01] <orlox> Beldar: Do you have the package name for it? I see a different google to you, due to my location
[21:01] <jayanth> k1l_: I dont understand, then why is the installation  stops abruptly ?
[21:01] <orlox> kostkon: Thanks! cups-pdf is working
[21:01] <kostkon> orlox, np
[21:01] <k1l_> jayanth: i dont understand, too. as long as you dont come with specific error message
[21:01] <Beldar> orlox, http://jonmifsud.com/blog/print-to-pdf-with-ubuntu-linux/  try this
[21:01] <jayanth> daftykins: Yes, i tried the installation  from usb
[21:02] <orlox> Beldar: Thanks for taking the time to answer.
[21:02] <joseph07_> looks like libxfont1 was included in the update
[21:03] <joseph07_> now is version 1.4.6-1
[21:03] <jayanth> k1l_: I don't remember the error messages properly, it was a while ago that i tried the install.
[21:03] <daftykins> jayanth: i'd recommend making sure your downloaded ISO of server was a good copy, (type !md5 to learn how) then make up the flash drive again after a proper format to see if it works on another try
[21:04] <NEone> Hi. I need to run a installer which has a GUI wizard. Problem is: I try to install it on a headless server on a VPS, so it's complaining about missing xserver. Developer told me to use ssh -X so the server OS uses the xserver/GUI of my local Ubuntu desktop. Question is: How exactly do I do that?
[21:04] <Beldar> orlox, No prob.
[21:04] <daftykins> nell_: open a terminal, type "ssh -X user@myVPShere"
[21:04] <daftykins> oops
[21:05] <daftykins> sorry nell_
[21:05] <daftykins> NEone: ^^
[21:05] <jayanth> k1l_: I will try to install it again and will tell you the errors. Will the i.r.c be active tomorrow ?
[21:05] <daftykins> NEone: then run the program you're installing after logging in
[21:05] <NEone> so I type the ssh command in my local desktop, not on the server?
[21:05] <k1l_> jayanth: most times someone is active in here
[21:05] <daftykins> NEone: yes because you need to connect to the VPS first... how do you normally access it? :)
[21:06] <nasa> speak portuguese?
[21:06] <daftykins> the party never stops in #ubuntu.
[21:06] <NEone> Through "SecureCRT", which is a text-based ssh program, similar to putty.
[21:06] <k1l_> !pt | nasa
[21:06] <hzlab> Hi I'm new for Linux! could anyone please advice me a good development environment for C# under Linux?
[21:06] <daftykins> NEone: ok, time to do it the conventional way then ;)
[21:07] <SuperLag> daftykins: noticed you got scottyarwood and his Java issue figured out yesterday. I *still* haven't got the Java plugin to work with Chrome.
[21:07] <jayanth> daftykins: Ok i will try to download a new iso and verify it. But where am i suppose to type !md5 ? in this i.r.c or in the internet ? i am little confused.
[21:07] <nasa> tky ubottu
[21:07] <SuperLag> jayanth: on the command line, in the directory where you download the iso to
[21:07] <k1l_> !md5 > jayanth
[21:07] <daftykins> SuperLag: yeah he was making some typos in the command, even once you identified his correct path ;_;
[21:07] <daftykins> SuperLag: at one point he had it perfect bar for a // which ruined things, heh
[21:07] <SuperLag> ouch
[21:07] <SuperLag> that'll do it every time
[21:08] <NEone> hzlab: "monodevelop" is a IDE for developing C# in Linux. But be aware that the resulting programs will only run on a other Linux box if the "mono framework" is installed there.
[21:08] <daftykins> SuperLag: i don't even know how one gets chrome on ubuntu 0o PPA? i know chromium-browser is a package for chromium
[21:09] <SuperLag> daftykins: I'm running Google Chrome Unstable, and I notice that when you install the .deb file, it creates /opt/google/{chrome,chrome-unstable}
[21:09] <kostkon> hzlab, monodevelop  there's an ubuntu devel channel you could also ask in there ->  #ubuntu-app-devel
[21:09] <NEone> daftykins: I've been told to "check if X11-forwarding is enabled". How do I check that?
[21:10] <SuperLag> daftykins: http://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel, and I get the "Dev channel" one under 64-bit Ubuntu/Debian.
[21:10] <nell_> woo, thank you ubuntu for giving me a use for an old throw away laptop
[21:10] <daftykins> NEone: rather than check all these things, can you not just ssh in with -X and try first? :)
[21:10] <SuperLag> NEone: unless you specifically went in and disabled it, it's enabled by default
[21:10] <NEone> ok, trying that... Thanks a lot
[21:10] <charlesW> SuperLag: Don't know if your interested, but I downloaded the Icedtea Java 6, 7 and the Webstart as well and I haven't anymore issues with Java since.
[21:11] <hzlab> NEone, kostkon Thank you very much!
[21:11] <jayanth> kil_: Hmm i understand now. i will do it after i download  the iso file
[21:11] <jayanth> thanks guys
[21:12] <SuperLag> charlesW: I use the OpenJDK packages in Ubuntu on VMs that I put up for accessing customer systems, but on my host OS.... Oracle all the way. It's because our Java-based app is based on the Oracle Java.
[21:12] <Es0teric> quick question -- i get this error: useradd: cannot create directory /home/TeeBoah/teeboah but there is no directory in /home/ called TeeBoah
[21:12] <Es0teric> this is via the command-line
[21:12] <SuperLag> charlesW: kind of ironic, since all the Oracle Java is, is OpenJDK + some proprietary Oracle bits.
[21:12] <omar_> Hi all. Please help. It's urgent.. :/ I am running Ubuntu 13.10 and for some reason now I can not see my Unity sidebar nor the other one at the top (not sure what it's called).. What can I do?
[21:12] <charlesW> SuperLag: Yep, been there.
[21:13] <Tzunamii> Es0teric: mkdir -p /home/TeeBoah/teeboah
[21:13] <jayanth> bye guys.
[21:13] <Es0teric> Tzunamii i dont want that directory though
[21:13] <Es0teric> i want it to be /home/teeboah
[21:13] <SuperLag> charlesW: odd though, since I'm fairly savvy in getting the env working... that I'm having issues with Chrome.
[21:13] <Es0teric> not /home/TeeBoah/teeboah
[21:13] <Tzunamii> then why asking for it?
[21:13] <Tzunamii> sudo mkdir /home/TeeBoah
[21:13] <Es0teric> i am not, Tzunamii  the initial command i ran was `sudo useradd teeboah -g sudo`
[21:14] <SuperLag> Es0teric: just do "useradd -m teeboah"
[21:14] <SuperLag> Es0teric: done.
[21:14] <Es0teric> SuperLag what if i want to add that user into the sudoers?
[21:14] <charlesW> SuperLag: You seem to be tech savvy, So, Have you checked with google to see if there is a update to their work environment?
[21:14] <SuperLag> Es0teric: sudo visudo, and edit your /etc/sudoers file
[21:15] <Es0teric> SuperLag i also get the same error useradd: cannot create directory /home/TeeBoah/teeboah when doing `sudo useradd -m teeboah`
[21:15] <NEone> Es0teric: usermod -a -G sudo teeboah
[21:15] <nasa_> nao consigo conectar na sala ubuntu-br
[21:15] <Es0teric> NEone first i need to create the user account
[21:15] <SuperLag> Es0teric: what have you been messing with, that your system thinks it should add new user homedirs to /home/TeeBoah/ ?
[21:16] <k1l_> !pt | nasa_
[21:16] <NEone> Yes, after that, the command I mentioned makes it a "sudoer"
[21:17] <Es0teric> SuperLag oh crap.. the last time i created a user i did useradd -b --base-dir /home/TeeBoah
[21:17] <Es0teric> so now it thinks its the default dir, how do i change that?
[21:17] <NEone> lol
[21:17] <Es0teric> do i just do useradd -b --base-dir /home ?
[21:18] <NEone> yeah, might work
[21:18] <TJ-> Es0teric: "usermod --home ...."
[21:18] <joseph07_> Sorry about the repost, but anyone think they could help me figure out how to fix a startup problem I'm having?
[21:19] <Es0teric> TJ- the user has not been created yet
[21:19] <Es0teric> i cannot do usermod
[21:19] <TJ-> Es0teric: Ahhh, sorry :)
[21:21] <Es0teric> how do i get the default terminal prompt when ssh'ing?
[21:22] <Es0teric> right now i just have $
[21:22] <nasa_> tky
[21:22] <daftykins> Es0teric: 'bash'
[21:22] <Es0teric> daftykins but how do i make that pop everytime on login?
[21:23] <joseph07_> Do I need to register in order to use this channel? I accidentally left irc logged on at work
[21:23] <daftykins> Es0teric: sounds to me like you created the user incorrectly, to not have had bash in the first place.
[21:23] <Es0teric> daftykins i did useradd -d /home <user>
[21:24] <daftykins> Es0teric: yeah that's insufficient. edit /etc/passwd so the user has the correct shell.
[21:24] <Es0teric> daftykins how do i do that?
[21:25] <SuperLag> charlesW: I was not aware there was a specific "work environment" for Chrome. I use unstable, because it usually gets new features first. :)
[21:25] <charlesW> Has anyone on here Built their own LFS system?
[21:25] <SuperLag> charlesW: no, but thinking about it :)
[21:25] <daftykins> Es0teric: command line or GUI?
[21:25] <SuperLag> charlesW: and the topic police *will* get you for that. :)
[21:26] <Es0teric> daftykins gui
[21:27] <charlesW> SuperLag: That's true, I just have some clients who prefer the other way over my way. lol... I started my LFS the other day and it is really cool.
[21:27] <Es0teric> daftykins i just change it from sh to bash right?
[21:27] <daftykins> Es0teric: by editing the ending of the line beside the username you added in that file, yes
[21:27] <Es0teric> daftykins awesome, just did it, thanks
[21:27] <daftykins> np
[21:28] <daftykins> Es0teric: the correct way if you read "man useradd" is by specifying the default shell at creation time
[21:28] <joseph07> Hello everyone
[21:28] <joseph07> I'm having a problem at startup
[21:28] <kostkon> !details | joseph07
[21:28] <charlesW> SuperLag:  and the topic police *will* get you for that. What do you mean??? curious
[21:28] <Es0teric> daftykins yeah i see
[21:29] <joseph07> Xorg is segfaulting. Looks like the error is occurring in libXfont. Ubuntu 13.10. Started after an update that bumped libxfont1 to 1.4.6-1
[21:31] <kostkon> !info libxfont saucy
[21:31] <kostkon> !info libxfont1 saucy
[21:32] <kostkon> joseph07, how do you know that libxfont1 is to blame
[21:32] <joseph07> kostkon: The backtrace in the x server log
[21:33] <joseph07> I'd paste it but it's on a different computer that is not very usable atm
[21:33] <kostkon> joseph07, pastebin it if you can. someone might have encountered the error before and will be able to help you etc etc
[21:33] <kostkon> right
[21:34] <joseph07> kostkon: Oh I can scp. Just a moment
[21:34] <kostkon> joseph07, the simplest thing you could do would be to boot into recovery mode and try to reinstall the package, after doing an apt-get clean first of course
[21:35] <EndymionM> Hi, I'm not sure if this is the place to ask, but here goes.  What does the "Ubuntu Firefox Modifications" addon do?
[21:35] <joseph07> kostkon: I booted in recover mode and set the boot to text so I have easy shell access
[21:36] <kostkon> joseph07, ok
[21:36] <SuperLag> charlesW: LFS is not Ubuntu. If you want to discuss anything that's considered offtopic, they'll send you to #ubuntu-offtopic. Surprised no one has said anything like that, yet. :)
[21:37] <charlesW> SuperLag: gotcha, I'll keep that in mind.
[21:37] <joseph07> kostkon: How do I reinstall the package? It has a lot of rdeps
[21:38] <kostkon> joseph07, hopping that the fs is not set to read only, do a apt-get clean and then sudo apt-get install libxfont1 --reinstall
[21:38] <rww> EndymionM: changes the homepage, enables apt: URLs, and iirc moves the location of the Preferences menu item
[21:38] <kostkon> minus the "sudo" part
[21:38] <rww> EndymionM: probably other things too, but those are the ones I remember
[21:39] <joseph07> kostkon: Guess that was a rtfm haha
[21:39] <kostkon> joseph07, yes, a man apt-get
[21:40] <EndymionM> rww: Alright, thanks.  Disabling then.
[21:40] <Es0teric> how do i change a users name?
[21:40] <Es0teric> a username's name where it says "full name"
[21:41] <sadpuppy> nick new nick
[21:41] <sadpuppy> with / in front
[21:41] <joseph07> kostkon: Okay rebooting after reinstall and http://paste.ubuntu.com/7181824/ for posterity
[21:45] <joseph07> kostkon: And it's a no-go. Same error
[21:47] <kostkon> joseph07, you could check your dpkg.log  and see which pacakges were updated. it could be something related to the nvidia driver
[21:55] <joseph07> kostkon: nvidia wasn't updated, but libxfont went from 1.4.6-1 to 1.4.6-1ubunto0.1
[21:55] <joseph07> kostkon: I don't even know what that means
[21:56] <kostkon> joseph07, it was a security update http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/libx/libxfont/libxfont_1.4.6-1ubuntu0.1/changelog
[21:56] <sadpuppy> hacker free
[21:56] <sadpuppy> lol
[21:56] <daftykins> Es0teric: look into usermod perhaps
[21:57] <kostkon> joseph07, maybe try reinstalling the nvidia driver? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#Installation_without_X_.2BAC8_from_the_console
[22:00] <izaya> I'm about to compile some code and was hoping for some backup in guiding me through his
[22:00] <TJ-> joseph07: That error looks like it could be triggered by the reading of an installed file. Looking at the top of the Xorg log, there are 2 directories being added to the FontPath, so it might be worth looking at the files in those directories, and trying to determine if any are corrupted/truncated
[22:03] <TJ-> joseph07: It's worth doing a reinstall of the font files: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install xfonts-base xfonts-scalable gsfonts-x11 xfonts-mathml"
[22:03] <Izaya> How do I run an install.sh
[22:03] <Izaya> ?
[22:03] <joseph07> TJ-: Thanks I was just reading about dpkg -S but you beat me
[22:04] <calimero_82> hello
[22:04] <TJ-> joseph07: Bear in mind reinstalling won't remove any additional files in those directories that shouldn't be there
[22:05] <calimero_82> i've installed lubuntu in my acer 3634wlmi, but doesn't work, the guides say to create xorg.conf, how can i create it? thanks
[22:05] <enchilado> Izaya: ./install.sh
[22:05] <joseph07> TJ-: So maybe I will run dpkg -S on each and see if there is an orphan. Is there a better way?
[22:05] <Izaya> do I have to cd to that directory first enchilado?
[22:05] <daftykins> calimero_82: does the guide show what to put in it?
[22:05] <enchilado> You may need to run $ chmod +x install.sh first if that doesn't work
[22:05] <Izaya> okay
[22:05] <Izaya> I take it I have to cd to that directory first though in shell first yes?
[22:06] <daftykins> yes
[22:06] <enchilado> Izaya: I've never tried doing it without changing to the directory first, so I'm not sure.
[22:06] <calimero_82> yes daftykins , but the problem is screen doesn't work, i should use shell in desktop, but doesn't work video card
[22:06] <Izaya> okay gotcha
[22:06] <daftykins> "./" means "in current directory"
[22:06] <enchilado> If not you'd certainly have to type the path from your current directory.
[22:06] <calimero_82> it's a sis garphic card
[22:06] <daftykins> calimero_82: you might find #ubuntu-it more useful
[22:07] <calimero_82> none answer me
[22:07] <Izaya> getting authentication failure
[22:07] <Izaya> but I'm putting in my password for root...
[22:07] <daftykins> calimero_82: ugh SiS, i'm amazed that even works. is the guide for the same version of ubuntu you installed?
[22:08] <Izaya> should I sudo chmod +x?
[22:08] <calimero_82> i'm using wiki
[22:08] <calimero_82> but wiki says: use console tty, but desktop doesn't works
[22:08] <calimero_82> refresh always
[22:09] <daftykins> Izaya: no
[22:09] <OerHeks> sudo touch  /etc/X11/xorg.conf && gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:10] <Izaya> I keep getting authentication failure
[22:10] <joseph07> TJ-: I'm going to go ahead and restart with the fresh font packages, but I did find a couple files in /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/ that don't seem to belong to a package
[22:11] <joseph07> TJ-: Namely encodings.dir, fonts.alias, fonts.dir
[22:12] <TJ-> joseph07: Those sound like directories, or the font name aliases list
[22:12] <Izaya> question
[22:12] <TJ-> joseph07: I was writing a script here to compare, but I must have other font packages installed because the diff is large
[22:12] <Izaya> is there any reason my password would be different when asking for rooth authentication than for when I log into my pc?
[22:12] <Izaya> because that seems to be what is happening
[22:13] <snoooop_> hi all, I don't understand how permissions are given in Ubuntu, I am able to cd into other accounts from the one I use. Is that normal ?
[22:13] <m1dnight> hey guys, can I disbale waking up from suspend with keypresses?
[22:13] <m1dnight> im afraid my laptop might wake up in my backpack..
[22:13] <m1dnight> e.g., force it to wake up by pressing the powerbutton only or something
[22:14] <OerHeks> snoooop_, sure, without enrypted /home/ you can browse
[22:14] <b3rz3rk3r> m1dnight, just close the lid
[22:14] <joseph07> TJ-: They aren't directories. I guess the dir suffix is because they constitute a directory of encodings etc.. But shouldn't they be owned by a package?
[22:15] <m1dnight> b3rz3rk3r: yes, I know but I put my mousemat in between, and I'm not sure if it'll work
[22:15] <m1dnight> i'll try tomorrow though
[22:15] <TJ-> joseph07: No, likely generated by the postinst scripts or the font maintenance scripts
[22:15] <snoooop_> OerHeks, ok, thanks.  now I realize that I also can run "sudo su" and become root. Is that also normal ?
[22:16] <joseph07> TJ-: In that case, is there something like a reconfigure I should try? (I haven't used dep/ubuntu for awhile)
[22:16] <Izaya> getting a ton of these on install:
[22:17] <Izaya> rtl8188C_8192C_usb_linux_v4.0.2_9000.20130911/hal/rtl8192c/rtl8192c_hal_init.c
[22:17] <Izaya> tar: rtl8188C_8192C_usb_linux_v4.0.2_9000.20130911/hal/rtl8192c/rtl8192c_hal_init.c: Cannot open: File exists
[22:17] <Izaya> is there a way to have my ./install.sh overwrite those files?
[22:18] <TJ-> joseph07: package xfonts-utils has several tools, including /usr/sbin/update-fonts-{alias,dir,scale}
[22:21] <ugliefrog> lear
[22:23] <darkangel> Curious* If there is any Broken Package or package that is effecting other packages from getting installed should it be Reported?
[22:24] <rww> ubottu: crossposting | darkangel
[22:24] <joseph07> TJ-: Thanks for all your help by the way. It looks like there were a few font-related package updates in the offending update. Is there any way I could narrow it down to a specific file?
[22:24] <darkangel> didnt know that was wrong sorry
[22:25] <TJ-> joseph07: Let me take a look at the segfault backtrace again
[22:26] <joseph07> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7182053/
[22:29] <joseph07> TJ-: FontParseXLFDName ~ eXtra Large Font Descriptor NAme?
[22:30] <joseph07> TJ-: Be right back
[22:31] <TJ-> joseph07: bear with me, I'm checking the source
[22:34] <snoooop_> I just read the "searching the dash legal notice" and this can actually give  Canonical  the right to steal your passwords or any other information .  Then only thing they  have to do is to update the notice.  At least in EU
[22:35] <snoooop_> *Then The
[22:37] <OerHeks> snoooop_, yes, i often use my password in unity-dash
[22:37] <OerHeks> i like to search for my password, don't you?
[22:38] <Taylor> What's my best choice to tackle updating 12.04 to the latest version? I'm not sure if I should update or just reinstall fresh
[22:39] <rww> Taylor: wait until 14.04 comes out mid-April and then upgrade direct to it
[22:39] <Luyin> Taylor: reinstall, it's usually safest. the one time I actually upgraded it took about 5-6 hours and networking was destroyed afterwards.
[22:39] <kostkon> Taylor, wait for 14.04 to come out and then upgrade to it
[22:39] <snoooop_> OerHeks, If Canonical want to access your system they can just update the notice for 10 minutes,  use some kind of backdoor and then sell the stuff to NSA.
[22:40] <rww> Taylor: otherwise, you're going 12.04 -> 12.10 -> 13.04 -> 13.10 or reinstalling, and it sounds like you're better off sticking to a two-year cadence
[22:40] <snoooop_> snoooop_, As I understand it you then actually give them the right to hack your system
[22:41]  * rww facepalms
[22:41] <kostkon> snoooop_, talking to yourself nice.  this is a support channels. for general discussion there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:41] <Izaya> well, I seem to have found my issue - but am Unable to bring it to a resolution. UGH....
[22:42] <snoooop_> kostkon, It was a security question
[22:42] <rww> snoooop_: Canonical does not have "the right to hack your system". Where did you hear this?
[22:44] <snoooop_> rww, In the notice it say, "Canonical may change this Privacy Policy from time to time, and at Canonical's sole discretion"
[22:44] <rww> snoooop_: and?
[22:44] <snoooop_> rww, so they have the right to access the system if they just make a change in your copy for 10 minutes.
[22:44] <Izaya> is there any reason I should be getting an authentication failure when running ./install.sh for a driver compilation
[22:45] <rww> snoooop_: Please consider consulting someone with legal training before spouting off legal theory in public.
[22:45] <ikonia> snoooop_: or better still - just don't
[22:45] <ikonia> Izaya: using sudo ?
[22:45] <yenic> Is there an easy way to enable mouse buttons 4/5 in Ubuntu 12.04LTS? For back/forward in FF, primarily.
[22:46] <Izaya> I can try it again but
[22:46] <Izaya> it asks for it beforehand
[22:46] <Izaya> should I do sudo ./install.sh
[22:46] <Izaya> ?
[22:46] <ikonia> Izaya: is this a graphics driver by any chance ?
[22:47] <Izaya> no ikonia actually it's the wifi driver
[22:47] <snoooop_> ikonia,  what do you mean with  "or better still - just don't"  ?
[22:47] <Izaya> WiFi driver is using wrong version, giving me apallingly slow connection speeds
[22:47] <Izaya> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.11.0-18-generic'
[22:47] <Izaya> /usr/src/linux-headers-3.11.0-18-generic/arch/x86/Makefile:113: CONFIG_X86_X32 enabled but no binutils support
[22:47] <Izaya> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `USB'.  Stop.
[22:47] <Frani> where can i download intel graphics 4400 driver ?
[22:47] <Izaya> I get that at the end of trying to install it.
[22:47] <ikonia> snoooop_: don't talk about something you appear to have no understanding of
[22:47] <ikonia> Izaya: that's not an authentication error
[22:48] <Izaya> yah, after running it as sudo it seems to work
[22:48] <Izaya> but now it gives me that
[22:48] <Frani> somebody know where can i download Intel Grapics 4400 driver ?
[22:48] <Izaya> no idea what that means though
[22:48] <Izaya> Frani: google?
[22:48] <ikonia> Izaya: have you read the documentation about what packages it needs
[22:48] <ikonia> Frani: you shouldn't need to download anything
[22:49] <Taylor> rww: Is the current release of 14.04 stable enough to install for a personal computer?
[22:49] <Taylor> or anyone
[22:49] <Izaya> I haven't, though I should probably try to find out.
[22:49] <ikonia> Taylor: nope
[22:49] <kostkon> Taylor, ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:49] <TJ-> Izaya: Sounds like you're building on a 64-bit system, a driver that is configured only for 32-bit
[22:49] <rww> Taylor: It's a development release, so #ubuntu doesn't support it yet. Therefore, I'm required to say no :P
[22:49] <Taylor> Ah
[22:49] <Taylor> Alright I'll just hold off on doing anything until it's released then
[22:49] <Taylor> You expect it in April?
[22:49] <snoooop_> ikonia,  well,,  I have studied law at the university and in most countries what  is written in a contract are in fact the agreement between the parties.
[22:49] <ikonia> TJ-: that wouldn't explain the missing target
[22:49] <rww> Taylor: the last time Ubuntu missed a release estimate was 2006, so fairly.
[22:50] <rww> Taylor: 17th, to be precise
[22:50] <ikonia> snoooop_: I suggest dropping it, if you're not confortable with the policy, don't use ubuntu
[22:50] <Taylor> Alright, sounds good
[22:50] <Taylor> cheers
[22:50] <TJ-> ikonia: Yes it would, that is a knock-on from the binutils failure
[22:50] <WannaBeGeekster> If I modprobe 8021q can I just manually configure /etc/network/interfaces to use a VLAN?  Or do I have to use vconfig to make it work?
[22:50] <ikonia> TJ-: Hmmm, maybe if the binutils section is generating the makefile.
[22:50] <TJ-> Izaya: Show us "uname -a" please
[22:51] <kostkon> Taylor, ubuntu is not fedora. there is a more or less strict schedule being followed  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[22:51] <Izaya> TJ- Linux Izaya 3.11.0-18-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 18 21:11:14 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:52] <snoooop_> ikonia, yea, I don't want to discuss the matter, just looking for answers.  Anyway is there a way to "not accept" the agreement ?
[22:52] <ikonia> snoooop_: not to use ubuntu
[22:52] <TJ-> Izaya: ikonia This is the Makefile code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7182229/
[22:52] <Flannel> snoooop_: uninstall the package
[22:53] <ikonia> TJ-: export CONFIG_X86_X32_ABI :)
[22:53] <TJ-> Izaya: Where did you get the driver source-code from? Give me the URL
[22:53] <ikonia> TJ-: good spot, and good effort digging out the souce
[22:53] <Izaya> TJ- coming right up
[22:53] <Izaya> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=21&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[22:53] <TJ-> ikonia: I work with it daily
[22:53] <ikonia> TJ-: ahhh so you know the product
[22:53] <Izaya> TJ- RTL8188CUS
[22:54] <TJ-> ikonia: Linux, yes
[22:54] <ikonia> TJ-: I meant the Makefile/product spefically
[22:54] <TJ-> Izaya: which device is it?
[22:54] <Izaya> RTL8188CUS
[22:55] <Izaya> TJ- RTL8188CUS, Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188CUS 802.11n WLAN Adapter
[22:55] <snoooop_> Flannel, I think ikonia are right, anyway thanks
[22:55] <Izaya> butchlugrod, the device drivers it is trying to use are
[22:55] <Izaya> but*** rather
[22:55] <TJ-> Izaya: first issue I see is, the source claims to be for kernel versions 2.6.16 - 3.9, and your system is 3.11 ... that might not be an issue, but often can be, as things are moved around
[22:55] <jje_> 9
[22:55] <Izaya> it is currently using RTL8192CU
[22:55] <kostkon> snoooop_, disable the online searched in dash. the option is in your privacy settings
[22:56] <Izaya> TJ- ah....
[22:56] <kostkon> searches*
[22:56] <TJ-> Izaya: I'll try building it here, see what I get
[22:56] <Izaya> TJ- any way I can force it to replace RTL8192cu with RTL8188CUS? I'm so used to windows and driver updates that way
[22:57] <snoooop_> kostkon, but that don't change the private policy as I understand it.
[22:58] <Izaya> thank you TJ-
[22:58] <TJ-> Izaya: Not sure what you mean by that; do you mwant you have the "CU" driver and want to use the "CUS" driver?
[22:58] <snoooop_> kostkon, anyway, thanks. I will not nag about this more
[22:58] <kostkon> snoooop_, no, but i guess it stops being applicable
[22:58] <TJ-> Izaya: s/mwant/mean/
[22:59] <Frani> ikonia: I have a asus UX302LA and this detect incorrectly the graphics
[23:00] <snoooop_> kostkon, no I don't think so ?  I can not find any info about this.
[23:00] <kostkon> snoooop_, probably there isn't
[23:00] <Izaya> yes. Essentially I want to replace the 8192CU with the 8188CUS. Not sure if there's a way to force and overwrite and have it pickup the new driver
[23:00] <Izaya> not sure if that's possible though, TJ-
[23:01] <Izaya> TJ- I don't understand?
[23:02] <Izaya> perhaps it would just be easier for me to find a USB WiFi adapter that is compatible with 13.10 Ubuntu
[23:02] <snoooop_> kostkon, thanks, have to sleep now
[23:03] <kostkon> snoooop_, gn then
[23:03] <TJ-> Izaya: OK, when you told me " RTL8188CUS, Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188CUS 802.11n WLAN Adapter" is that the device as reported by "lspci", or did that come from some text on the Realtek web-site or elsewhere?
[23:03] <TJ-> Izaya: I'm trying to be sure we have the correct source-code package.
[23:03] <Izaya> reported by lsus
[23:04] <TJ-> Izaya: OK, yes, same thing :) OK, I have the correct source-code. It has a problem.
[23:04] <Izaya> ah
[23:04] <Izaya> something wrong in the source then?
[23:05] <TJ-> Izaya: The Makefile for the kernel module has a Makefile that hard-codes "CONFIG_PLATFORM_I386_PC = y"  which then leads to doing "ifeq ($(CONFIG_PLATFORM_I386_PC), y)" which tries to manipulate the host architecture, expecting it to be x86 form: "SUBARCH := $(shell uname -m | sed -e s/i.86/i386/)" but that fails since "uname -m" is returning "x86_64"
[23:06] <Izaya> interesting.
[23:06] <TJ-> Izaya: It looks as if the source-package is hard-coded for 32-bit kernel builds; I'm not clear how easy it would be to build it for 64-bit, since there may be structures in the source-code that expect 32-bit sizes
[23:06] <Izaya> so what you're saying is
[23:07] <Izaya> this driver is not compatible with 64 bit systems
[23:07] <Izaya> sounds like it may be something where I want to update the Hardware then, eh TJ-?
[23:08] <Izaya> orwell, what I may do is take my wifi extender, use a hard cable and plug in to my tower that way
[23:08] <Izaya> TJ- that would probably resolve the issue.
[23:08] <daftykins> Izaya / TJ- perhaps booting a 32-bit liveCD and trying the driver out there might be wise
[23:08] <wafflejock> Izaya: many times you could use ndiswrapper to use windows drivers in linux too if the open source drivers aren't working out
[23:08] <Izaya> daftykins: also a good idea. if I were to then install that way would it work when I jumped back?
[23:09] <TJ-> Izaya: No, I think the driver might build for 64-bit but not sure how successful; just need to alter a small part of that Makefile to test it, then we'll know
[23:09] <Izaya> wafflejock: thanks
[23:09] <joseph07> TJ-: back. Any leads? Also if you point me to the source I could check it out myself
[23:10] <Izaya> TJ- alright... sorry to put everyone to work and then run, but I have to go out for about an hour and a half. Please don't feel the need to continue on this at this point, as I may try other hardware-side solutions.
[23:10] <jhutchins> wafflejock: Actually, ndiswrapper is pretty much deprecated these days.
[23:10] <Izaya> TJ- for example I may just take my wifi extender, set it up next to my computer, and then plug in directly to that wifi extender from my tower
[23:10] <wafflejock> yeah I was sorta thinking that... thanks for the update
[23:10] <wafflejock> I haven't seen it used much and haven't needed it myself recently
[23:11] <Izaya> TJ- that would work just as easily without all the software fixes.
[23:11] <wafflejock> but was something I relied on a few years back all the time
[23:11] <Frani> is theres anbody to ask a question?
[23:11] <Izaya> TJ- anyway, thank you for helping to explain the issue further. I'll try the hardwiring solution before I try to edit source code for a driver.
[23:11] <wafflejock> !ask > Frani
[23:14] <TJ-> Izaya: test building here now; discovered already the install.sh script actually requires bash not sh
[23:15] <TJ-> Izaya: building fine so far; way past where it stopped for you
[23:17] <joseph07> TJ-: Well I found the source and it does look related to the font name, but the FontParseXLFDName is pretty lengthy
[23:20] <TJ-> joseph07: Yes, that function parses the X Logical Filename Description, which fits with our theory that some font file is upsetting it. I'd suggest temporarily moving all the files from /usr/share/X11/fonts/{misc,Type1} to back-up directories (or rename those directories and create empty ones with the original names) and try starting the X server. If that works, we at least know it is a file in those directories for sure.
[23:26] <TJ-> Izaya: Well there's good news and bad news: The good news is, the source builds on x86_64. The bad news is, it fails to build for kernel 3.11 but it builds for 3.8 and 3.9
[23:29] <joseph07> TJ-: Okay after removing misc and Type1, the FontPath was set to "built-ins" and the segfault still occurred
[23:29] <abvx> Hi all, im trying to set up an encrypted bootable usb install right now. and im stuck with the installer. I hit manual, since i also need a fat32 partition on the usb stick, not just the encrypted linux system. Can anyone give me hints on the partitioning?
[23:29] <TJ-> joseph07: That is beginning to indicate an problem with libxfont, I think. Did you do a --reinstall of the libxfont package?
[23:30] <joseph07> TJ-: Yes, although it was called libxfont1
[23:30] <TJ-> joseph07: Yes, I wasn't being precise on the version :)
[23:31] <TJ-> joseph07: Let's try to confirm the binary from the package isn't in some way corrupted.  "md5sum /usr/lib/libXfont.so.1"
[23:32] <abvx> Currently i have the following partition setup on my usb stick. Fat32_128mb
[23:33] <abvx> sorry, fat32-10gb  ext2-128mb-/boot
[23:34] <abvx> now im stuck, if i set up a physical volume for crypto the installer complains about an unencrypted swap
[23:34] <dante123> hi all, trying to install google chrome on trusty tahr and its not working.  any ideas?
[23:36] <joseph07> TJ-: Okay the library was installed in /usr/lib/x86
[23:36] <Beldar> dante123, The google download should work, the 14.04 channel is #ubuntu+1 is all
[23:36] <joseph07> TJ-: Okay the library was installed in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXfont.so and hash is 1239bd7498178c77c93ebcae3dbe1241
[23:37] <dante123> thanks, i asked in +1 but got no reply so tried here.  The google download does not work, I guess I could retry downloading it.
[23:38] <logical> guys what do you think about 14.04 ?
[23:38] <tester> can anyone tell me on ubuntu what the command for finding what version that u have
[23:38] <logical> worth trying?
[23:39] <TJ-> joseph07: OK, the file is good.
[23:40] <TJ-> joseph07: So, something else is causing this, so we need to be able to identify the file being accessed when it crashes
[23:40] <joseph07> TJ-: libxfont1-dbg?
[23:41] <TJ-> joseph07: It's worth a try, we might see more backtrace info
[23:41] <archpcuser> can someone help me with something? I have no cd drive or a flash drive available, so I made a small 1gb partition to house the lubuntu cd install files, is there a way to get grub to see it?
[23:42] <archpcuser> All I could boot from is my puppy live cd which I keep handy
[23:42] <DrDigita_> I have a system with 5 NIC's and 1 is connected to behind a router (i wanted internal gigabit speeds) and the other is connected directly to a external static ip... how can i keep the internal NIC from going out my router for internet? don't set a gateway? no dns?
[23:43] <joseph07> TJ-: Do I need to replace the libXfont.so with the new debug one?
[23:43] <TJ-> joseph07: It might be worth doing "sudo inotifywatch -r /usr/share/X11/fonts" to see what dir/file is last accessed when X segfaults
[23:44] <tester> from the command line what command do I issue to find the distro version tried kenel -v distrobution -v filesystem -v  kinda out of option
[23:45] <archpcuser> tester, uname?
[23:45] <tester> ben
[23:45] <archpcuser> no, run "uname" in the terminal, lol
[23:46] <tester> iam useing a live cd
[23:46] <archpcuser> just try it
[23:46] <ikonia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS
[23:46] <DrDigita_> isn't it uname -a
[23:47] <archpcuser> that's it, I think
[23:47] <joseph07> TJ-: looks like the fonts dir was automatically removed when X realized there weren't any fonts in it
[23:47] <archpcuser> tester, run "man uname" and find what helps :)
[23:47] <DrDigita_> uname for me just says linux
[23:47] <tester> thanks
[23:47] <joseph07> TJ-: such a lie, my bad. Running with inotify
[23:49] <tester> just give me tester or linux
[23:49] <tester> need to figure out what this version of ubuntu is
[23:49] <DrDigita_> did you add the -a
[23:49] <tester> I think it is posably 10 but not sure
[23:50] <DrDigita_> 'uname -a'
[23:50] <tester> -a just gives me the kernel name
[23:51] <DrDigita_> man uname then
[23:51] <tester> uname -o
[23:52] <tester> just give me linux
[23:52] <ikonia> type "uname -a"
[23:52] <ikonia> it's that simple
[23:52] <ikonia> that will give you all info
[23:52] <tester> uname -i
[23:53] <tester> uknown
[23:53] <ikonia> tester: uname -a
[23:53] <ikonia> tester: -a !
[23:53] <tester> yeah thats what it gives me
[23:54] <ikonia> tester: type the command "uname -a"
[23:54] <ikonia> and paste the output into this channel
[23:55] <tester> ok thanks gues its not real important just thought there was a quik way to find out the info
[23:55] <ikonia> uname -a is the command
[23:56] <TJ-> tester: "lsb_release -a"
[23:56] <joseph07> TJ-: Thanks for all your help! I've gotta run now but I'll probably be looking again tomorrow
[23:56] <TJ-> joseph07: good luck :)
[23:56] <tester> also how can i give my self global root permisions so that I do not have to ke typeing su before every command makes iot very har to get anything sone
[23:56] <ikonia> tester: sudo -i
[23:57] <tester> do I put that in a config file sudo -i
[23:57] <ikonia> tester: no
[23:57] <ikonia> tester: and to be honest - if you are asking these sort of questions you should not be using root privileges