bluesabre | Noskcaj: how are things? | 02:27 |
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bluesabre | want to exercise your new ubuntu-upload rights? | 02:28 |
bluesabre | http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-parole-0-6-1-released-td43661.html | 02:28 |
Noskcaj | pretty good | 02:28 |
bluesabre | good to hear :) | 02:28 |
Noskcaj | And yeah, i saw. I'll prepare the upload in debian first, but i'll have it straight to ubuntu | 02:28 |
bluesabre | fantastic | 02:29 |
bluesabre | thanks alot :D | 02:29 |
Noskcaj | I still don't know how to upload stuff to ubuntu though | 02:30 |
Noskcaj | micahg, ^ | 02:30 |
bluesabre | ah | 02:30 |
bluesabre | :) | 02:30 |
bluesabre | I might need a primer from you on uploading packages to debian via PAPT | 02:30 |
bluesabre | need to upgrade catfish to use python3 | 02:30 |
Noskcaj | target the package to "unstable", then add it to the RFS in the irc channel | 02:31 |
bluesabre | I need to do something with svn, right? | 02:32 |
Noskcaj | Yeah, all the code is in svn | 02:33 |
Noskcaj | svn co svn+ssh://USERNAME@svn.debian.org/svn/python-apps/ should work | 02:35 |
bluesabre | cool, thanks :) | 02:41 |
jhenke | good morning | 06:58 |
Noskcaj | Why isn't abiword the default to open .docx files? | 07:51 |
bluesabre | greetings everyone | 11:10 |
bluesabre | :) | 11:10 |
* bluesabre just sent an updated catfish package to debian via PAPT. | 11:17 | |
starrats | good morning everyone | 11:19 |
bluesabre | good morning starrats | 11:20 |
starrats | No questions today, I promise, lol. But really enjoying this final Beta, looking forward to gthe release. Again I say thank you to the ones that have made this build so awesome. | 11:27 |
Justanick | Is it useful to test the daily build for Xubuntu 14.4? Using at the moment Xubuntu 12.4. | 13:52 |
Justanick | Is the daily build feature complete? | 15:01 |
pleia2 | Justanick: testing daily images is always useful :) | 17:04 |
* elfy has no idea of the backlog - but completely agrees :) | 17:04 | |
Justanick | Should the upgrade function from 12.04 to 14.04 work for xubuntu? | 17:05 |
Justanick | LTS to LTS | 17:06 |
* elfy will get link - 64 or 32 bit Justanick ? | 17:06 | |
Justanick | 64Bit | 17:06 |
elfy | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/308/builds/65285/testcases/1635/results | 17:07 |
elfy | or http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/308/builds/65285/testcases/1636/results | 17:07 |
elfy | depending on whether you want to use upgrade manager or can use an image | 17:07 |
jhenke | guys, yesterday I tried beta2 the first time, I assume the problem of wrong keyboard layout used and the wrong background images both in the installer and post install are knonw already? | 17:09 |
elfy | yep | 17:10 |
Justanick | I think I will use the updater and not the image one. I'm on a xfce ppa for version 4.10. Any risks? | 17:10 |
elfy | not sure tbh - it will disable the ppa I think though | 17:10 |
Unit193 | Yes it will. | 17:10 |
elfy | thought so - I tend to wander off from those upgrades and go do something else | 17:11 |
elfy | jhenke: bug 1297170 and bug 1284635 | 17:11 |
ubottu | bug 1297170 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Live Session starts with XFCE wallpaper/install uses same" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1297170 | 17:11 |
ubottu | bug 1284635 in ibus (Ubuntu Trusty) "Keyboard layout changes after login" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1284635 | 17:11 |
jhenke | thanks for the pointer | 17:11 |
elfy | jhenke: as a matter of curiosity - what keyboard layout did you expect ? | 17:12 |
jhenke | de_DEnodeadkeys | 17:12 |
jhenke | set during installation | 17:13 |
elfy | y6ep | 17:13 |
brainwash | yeah :D | 17:13 |
elfy | brainwash: got a patch for that delete issue of mine - but I've no idea how to actually use it :) | 17:14 |
brainwash | elfy: currently building a package which includes the patch | 17:15 |
brainwash | https://launchpad.net/~thad-fisch/+archive/test | 17:15 |
jhenke | I also think it is an ibus problem, in fact I would expect ibus to be absolutely passivbe, as german does not need it normally | 17:15 |
brainwash | it is ibus | 17:15 |
brainwash | which somehow is not able to query the correct layout | 17:16 |
brainwash | so it falls back to en_US | 17:16 |
jhenke | which is very confusing if you want to use the terminal and being used to no us keyboards ^^ | 17:16 |
elfy | brainwash: so how do I patch it? sudo patch < foo.patch ? | 17:16 |
brainwash | no need for sudo | 17:17 |
brainwash | you want to patch the git version? | 17:17 |
elfy | nope - whatever I've got here I guess | 17:17 |
elfy | ok - now it wants to know what file to patch - xfdeskop4 ? | 17:18 |
brainwash | mmh | 17:19 |
brainwash | did you download the source files? | 17:19 |
elfy | xfdesktop I mean | 17:19 |
elfy | no | 17:19 |
elfy | this is just going to get too voodooy for me ;) | 17:20 |
brainwash | you can test the package from my ppa | 17:21 |
elfy | brb | 17:23 |
elfy | brainwash: did that ppa desktop of yours also have something in it to stop the screen artifacts after login with a nouveau card? | 17:26 |
elfy | and that also seems to have done the job for deleting :) | 17:26 |
elfy | commented on the bug at bugzilla | 17:28 |
brainwash | elfy: no, I just added the delete patch | 17:28 |
elfy | mmm | 17:28 |
elfy | must be coincidental then | 17:29 |
brainwash | are the artifacts always visible after login? | 17:29 |
elfy | yea - for ~10-15 seconds | 17:30 |
elfy | same as the screenshot I added to my bug on it | 17:30 |
brainwash | mmh, one relog can't tell for sure | 17:31 |
elfy | indeed not :) | 17:32 |
elfy | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/162094730/CAM00034.jpg | 17:32 |
elfy | that stuff - but not at the greeter window now obviously | 17:33 |
brainwash | and deleting 1 file is enough to confirm that the patch works? | 17:34 |
elfy | brainwash: it is on what I've seen | 17:35 |
brainwash | ok :) | 17:35 |
elfy | first delete from desktop on a new session = oh my lord - what is this !!! - so yea - it worked as it did before whatever happened | 17:36 |
elfy | without fail, a new session was an issue | 17:36 |
brainwash | maybe we could already add the patch to our patch collection for the next xfdesktop4 bug fix release | 17:37 |
elfy | I'd guess that would be useful - the only thing is I've not been able to actually replicate this at all anywhere else, neither has anyone else | 17:38 |
elfy | it is JUST this particular install | 17:38 |
brainwash | https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/trusty/xfdesktop4/git-patches | 17:38 |
brainwash | mmh, right | 17:39 |
elfy | so ... | 17:39 |
brainwash | but if it gets committed upstream, we could simply pick it | 17:40 |
brainwash | and close your bug report | 17:41 |
brainwash | :) | 17:41 |
elfy | seems it has :p "Thanks for testing it, pushed to master in:..." | 17:41 |
eric_the_idiot | yup, thanks for the quick feedback :) | 17:42 |
elfy | ohhh | 17:43 |
brainwash | eric_the_idiot: awesome! that was a quick fix | 17:43 |
elfy | so you are that eric :) hi eric_the_idiot :D | 17:43 |
* elfy feels slightly ridiculous ... | 17:43 | |
eric_the_idiot | yup, I'm that idiot, hi | 17:43 |
elfy | but blames other people for not telling him who's here from xfce :D | 17:44 |
brainwash | eric_the_idiot: do you follow the "wrong wallpaper" lp report? | 17:44 |
eric_the_idiot | wrong wallpaper? | 17:44 |
brainwash | bug 1297170 | 17:45 |
ubottu | bug 1297170 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Live Session starts with XFCE wallpaper/install uses same" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1297170 | 17:45 |
eric_the_idiot | oh no, haven't seen that before | 17:46 |
brainwash | I saw that there is code to migrate the wallpaper settings from 4.10 to 4.11, but we've changed our xuubntu-specifc xfce4-desktop.xml to the 4.11 layout | 17:46 |
brainwash | but we use the generic monitor name "monitor0" | 17:47 |
brainwash | but in most cases a monitor name like "monitor-HDMIblala" is used | 17:48 |
eric_the_idiot | do you have a link to this default setting file? | 17:49 |
brainwash | http://lpaste.net/102023 | 17:49 |
brainwash | so it ignores the monitor0 entry and creates a new one (monitor-name) and uses the default wallpaper | 17:50 |
eric_the_idiot | hmm, well it should check if monitor-HDMIblah exists (which it shouldn't) | 17:52 |
eric_the_idiot | then it looks for "%smonitor%d/image-path" | 17:52 |
eric_the_idiot | then finally DEFAULT_BACKDROP | 17:53 |
eric_the_idiot | now I wonder if xfdesktop-settings does the same, hope so :) | 17:53 |
brainwash | is our default .xml file to blame? | 17:53 |
eric_the_idiot | yeah don't try to guess the workspace/monitor just use monitor0/image-path | 17:54 |
eric_the_idiot | and monitor1/image-path | 17:55 |
eric_the_idiot | and that should migrate and xfdesktop will set it on first run | 17:55 |
brainwash | yes, but then we are back to our original problem | 17:55 |
brainwash | xfdesktop-settings showing an empty folder initially | 17:56 |
brainwash | when the user tries to change the wallpaper | 17:57 |
brainwash | I think | 17:57 |
eric_the_idiot | that was caused by a bug in xfdesktop | 17:57 |
brainwash | oh, we can use the 4.10 layout again? | 17:57 |
eric_the_idiot | yeah | 17:57 |
brainwash | ok, thanks :) | 17:57 |
brainwash | I'll test it | 17:57 |
brainwash | one issue remains then, xfdesktop not showing network shares | 17:58 |
eric_the_idiot | ok, that other bug was only triggered when plug names weren't available (i.e. in vmware without the guest additions) | 17:58 |
brainwash | tried nfs shares, no luck | 17:58 |
brainwash | samba shares do not show up either according to another tester | 17:59 |
eric_the_idiot | yeah, that one might be more work | 17:59 |
brainwash | gigolo and thunar do show them | 17:59 |
eric_the_idiot | I'll probably have to switch from using GVolume to GMount to get everything to show | 18:00 |
eric_the_idiot | since GIO is really random about what's a volume | 18:00 |
brainwash | maybe I can get it working (doubt that) | 18:01 |
brainwash | reading the code of thunar and xfdektop takes some time :D | 18:02 |
lderan | elfy, how does this look to you http://paste.ubuntu.com/7180704/ ? | 18:02 |
elfy | lderan: looks ok - except helpfully :) - maybe add a bit about help with bzr being available if people need it | 18:08 |
elfy | tell me when you've sent it and I will copy it to the LP testers team as well | 18:09 |
lderan | elfy, okay :) | 18:10 |
elfy | lderan: thanks :) | 18:10 |
lderan | no problem at all :) | 18:12 |
lderan | elfy, it is done | 19:09 |
lderan | accidentally spilled a drink on my desk. had to clean it up :P | 19:09 |
elfy | thanks - -testers getting it now | 19:18 |
jhenke | does anybody know if somebody with the nessesary experience is already looking into the ibus bug? | 19:24 |
elfy | yep - someone is looking at it | 19:25 |
jhenke | elfy thanks | 19:25 |
elfy | it's being looked at by canonical desktop team | 19:27 |
jhenke | great, I just wonder how that regression was able to get into the normal archive in the first place, somebody should have seen that earlier... | 19:28 |
elfy | indeed | 19:29 |
elfy | jhenke: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/03/27/%23ubuntu-release.html#t08:32 | 19:31 |
brainwash | xubuntu.. we just ship it :) | 19:32 |
jhenke | it would be nice if people would be more cautious with such fundemental packages like ibus in general... | 19:34 |
jhenke | how nice would be a perfect world | 19:34 |
jhenke | interesting to read the irc converstation, I really hope that is fixed soon, because at least for me that is a (subjectivily) very high impact bug, even more proably for people not understanding linux at alll | 19:43 |
brainwash | we are aware of this, but we only install ibus by default, we don't actually integrate it | 19:54 |
brainwash | if it cannot be fixed in time.. well, we can purge it :D | 19:55 |
brainwash | eric_the_idiot: strange, I've reverted the xfce-desktop.xml change and it still falls back to the default Xfce wallpaper | 19:56 |
jhenke | brainwash I am fully aware that packets like ibus are not the responsibility of the xubuntu team, it should just work and if not the ubuntu guys have to make it work | 19:57 |
jhenke | good night folks | 20:37 |
elfy | goodnight jhenke | 20:39 |
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