teward | not really. needs to work with IMAP clients and SMTP (I know postfix does SMTP), and needs SSL/TLS security if possible | 00:00 |
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teward | i haven't had the patience to sift through the (virtually nonexistent) postfix documentation on getting this all set up though | 00:00 |
Joe_knock | teward if you're strapped for time and have some cash, somebody on freelancer/elance could do it for you. | 00:02 |
teward | Joe_knock, maybe it's just my being in a rush to get other things done that's prevented me from actually digging into it | 00:02 |
teward | and it's safer to assume I don't have cash :P | 00:02 |
Joe_knock | teward, I can understand where you're coming from. Is the mail server part of some web project? | 00:02 |
TJ- | teward: postfix with virtual aliases; deliver all email to a domain to a single user account on the server, and then have something like dovecot (IMAP4) for clients to access it | 00:02 |
teward | TJ-, it's the dovecot part i get lost at, I think | 00:03 |
teward | brb, firewall's being stupid again | 00:03 |
teward | for the 10th time today | 00:03 |
teward | back | 00:24 |
teward | Joe_knock, yeah, its going to be the web server for my entire site, I'm tired of using Google Apps as the backend, would rather move all the services in-house. | 00:25 |
teward | s/backend/email backend/ | 00:25 |
teward | and email's the last thing to move | 00:25 |
teward | TJ-, it's getting dovecot set up where I can't find step-by-step documentation... | 00:26 |
Joe_knock | teward, maybe you should try my method of having the webserver do all outgoing automated mail and use an external mail hosting server for incoming and response mails | 00:26 |
TJ- | teward: Dovecot's config will depend on how you organise the mailboxes, so getting postfix configured in a way that supports the ways dovecot can access mailboxes is the issue, I think | 00:27 |
teward | Joe_knock, I could probably do that, I still want to move all the mail for the site off of Google Apps, though, and I do need the response emails. The other problem is there's a ticketing system on the servers that needs to pull from an IMAP address for emailed-in tickets so meh | 00:27 |
Joe_knock | teward google apps isn't the only external mail server option. What does your app/site do? | 00:29 |
teward | Joe_knock, the site that's relevant is the ticket system, it's for a site that provides free IRC bouncers | 00:30 |
Joe_knock | interesting. | 00:30 |
teward | the ticketing system is the one which needs to pull from IMAP for emailed-in tickets | 00:33 |
teward | but meh | 00:33 |
teward | Joe_knock, I do have other domains I can experiment setting up, I'm trying to move from my gmail.com addresses to my own domain emails anyways so meh :P | 00:33 |
teward | Joe_knock, ultimately, this is an experiment, first off, before I move the data to a postfix/dovecot setup. But I still need a guide for setting it up... :/ | 00:35 |
sheptard | google? | 00:41 |
teward | sheptard, i'd use it if my firewall weren't causing hell... | 00:42 |
teward | I guess it's time to replace my network equpiment... again... | 00:42 |
ahmadgbg | Hi, i have setup my web server and everything works as it should. The only problem i have is postfix. I cant get it to send mail outside the local area. I am a newbie so its possible that i have done some config error. | 00:53 |
Joe_knock | Hey RoyK | 01:09 |
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Guegs | Is it considered a good idea to update to 14.04 from 12.04 when it is released? | 03:47 |
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zanzacar | I have an ubuntu-server 13.10 and wanted to install a gui. I was looking at this site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI for tips and it does mention sinstall ubuntu-desktop as an option. | 05:01 |
zanzacar | I thought that I would juts check to see if that is still up to date and everything, I thought maybe it might have changed since the site was modified in 2012. | 05:01 |
zanzacar | I almost rather uninstall the server and install just unbuntu-desktop but I figured I could just install the desktop and be pretty much the same correct? | 05:02 |
zanzacar | eh nm I am still going to have the same problems I would have had with my other desktop. I need another desk/computer | 05:04 |
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lordievader | Good morning. | 08:28 |
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pmatulis | morning | 11:46 |
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zul | coreycb: ceilometer rc1 is out lemme know when you are ready for me to upload it to the archive | 15:41 |
Phibs | can anyone tell me why this fails to add the default gw to the interfaces config file: http://p.bsd-unix.net/puaf10jim | 15:43 |
jamespage | bug 1293177 | 15:57 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1293177 in samba "'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. Access denied." [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1293177 | 15:57 |
zul | jamespage: have you seen this? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7185546/ (trusty-trunk packages) | 16:19 |
jamespage | nope | 16:19 |
zul | jamespage: nm...im getting hit by that utf8-bug | 16:20 |
jamespage | zul, yeah - that sucks | 16:20 |
zul | jamespage: horizon rc1 is out | 16:22 |
patdk-wk | I need to diagnose a trusty upgrade issue :( | 16:25 |
patdk-wk | upgraded a machine yesterday, and it hung before grub finished loading :( | 16:26 |
cfhowlett | patdk-wk, trust support is in #ubuntu+1 | 16:26 |
patdk-wk | who was asking for support? | 16:26 |
cfhowlett | patdk-wk, pretty sure diagnosing an upgrade issue = support | 16:28 |
cfhowlett | !trusty | 16:28 |
ubottu | Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu. See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. support in #ubuntu+1 | 16:28 |
patdk-wk | heh? | 16:28 |
patdk-wk | the first step to making a support issue, is asking for help | 16:28 |
patdk-wk | I don't remember doing that | 16:28 |
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Phibs | can anyone tell me why this fails to add the default gw to the interfaces config file: http://p.bsd-unix.net/puaf10jim | 16:28 |
jamespage | coreycb, zul: pls can you check for fixed ubuntu bugs when prepareing rc1's | 16:29 |
patdk-wk | I was making a comment about my *current* activities | 16:29 |
jamespage | patdk-wk, that sucks a bit | 16:29 |
jamespage | patdk-wk, tbh that's foundations territory | 16:30 |
cfhowlett | patdk-wk, until release, installing, cofiguring, troubleshooting and spotchecking of trusty belongs in the #ubuntu+1 channel. thank you. | 16:30 |
Phibs | does anyone in here use preseed with a static net config | 16:30 |
patdk-wk | cfhowlett, but I didn't do any of those things, so thanks | 16:32 |
jamespage | zul: https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/horizon/icehouse-rc1/+merge/213509 | 16:34 |
zul | jamespage: +1 | 16:37 |
Phibs | nobody preseeds eh | 16:42 |
patdk-wk | phibs, I normally don't build from scratch like that | 16:42 |
patdk-wk | but build the machine, snapshot it, then clone | 16:42 |
jamespage | zul, tested and uploaded | 16:50 |
zul | jamespage: awesome | 16:50 |
jamespage | pending approval from release team - I did not reference the FFe as I don't want to close it now | 16:50 |
Phibs | patdk-wk: nod | 16:51 |
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luminous | is there anything special you can put into /etc/network/intefaces that would say "if you don't have a config for the interface, fallback to dhcp" ? | 17:29 |
zul | coreycb: ceilometer uploaded | 17:30 |
coreycb | zul, thanks! | 17:30 |
Phibs | is there somewhere to set the default gw in ubuntu, where it is not tied to an interface config stanza ? | 17:40 |
sarnold | hey Phibs :) I don't think I've seen a way to do that; how would that help? you've got to have at least one interface configured with an ip in order to know how to route to the gateway anyhow.. | 17:45 |
henrik | Anyone here interested in bug reports for the trusty serverguide? I found a couple of typos in the lxc section. | 17:46 |
pmatulis | henrik: sure, can you open a single bug for them? | 17:48 |
pmatulis | http://pad.lv/b/serverguide | 17:49 |
henrik | pmatulis: thanks, will create a launchpad account. (and do a quick search to see if anyone spotted the same things..) | 17:50 |
pmatulis | henrik: ty bro | 17:51 |
vlad_starkov | TJ-: I'm here | 17:57 |
TJ- | :) | 17:58 |
TJ- | The elevator=deadline is supposed to fix ultra-fast SSDs causing hangs | 17:58 |
TJ- | Which made me wonder if you might have also benefited from using "rootdelay=$SOMETHING" | 17:59 |
vlad_starkov | TJ-: ahh, I disconnected all drives | 17:59 |
TJ- | vlad_starkov: Oh yeah! Well, try it anyhow, we seem to firing shotguns at the barn doors anyhow :) | 18:00 |
vlad_starkov | "rootdelay=5" ? | 18:00 |
sarnold | why wouldn't you use elevator=none with ssds? | 18:01 |
TJ- | I think it's 30 by default, so I usually use 90 when I suspect it might help... If I recall the delay between the last kernel message and the bug warning, is about 21 seconds | 18:01 |
TJ- | sarnold: Because there are no SSDs connected :) | 18:01 |
sarnold | err, elevator==noop of course.. | 18:01 |
sarnold | oh :) | 18:01 |
TJ- | sarnold: Summary. Supermicro X7DBR-3, no IPMI, with 2x SDD and 4x HDD, new system trying to run even the installer, BUG soft lockup early in boot. In default config (with an initrd) hangs at init-bottom, without initrd, still hangs. Let me link you to a pastebin of the kernel log, captured over serial, from last Friday: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7169894/ | 18:04 |
vlad_starkov | TJ-: Here fresh logs with different set of boot params http://paste.ubuntu.com/7186017/ | 18:04 |
TJ- | vlad_starkov: Was this the system that "noacpi" worked on? And one thing I was trying to do was isolate which ACPI facility was causing the hang? | 18:06 |
TJ- | vlad_starkov: We tried "nolapic", did we ever try "nolapic noapic" ? | 18:06 |
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vlad_starkov | TJ-: yes we did | 18:07 |
jamespage | coreycb, zul: was the epoch bump on ceilometer intentional? | 18:08 |
jamespage | -queuebot/#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ceilometer (trusty-proposed/main) [2014.1~b3-0ubuntu3 => 1:2014.1~rc1-0ubuntu1] (ubuntu-server) | 18:08 |
zul | jamespage: er...no | 18:09 |
zul | i missed that when reviewing it | 18:09 |
vlad_starkov | TJ-: the interesting thing is that with some sets of boot params, for ex. "debug initcall_debug console=tty0 console=ttyS0,115200n8 elevator=deadline", the systems does no fall in hang and responds to Ctrl+Alt+Del | 18:09 |
jamespage | zul, lets get it rejected and re-upload with epoch :-) | 18:10 |
vlad_starkov | TJ-: "systemd-udevd[1024]: timeout: killing '/sbin/modprobe -qba dm-multipath' [1107]" | 18:10 |
zul | jamespage: yeah | 18:10 |
vlad_starkov | TJ-: "dm-multipath" - is a module name? | 18:10 |
TJ- | vlad_starkov: Does the "elevator=deadline" cure it completely... with disks connected? | 18:11 |
vlad_starkov | TJ-: disks are currenly disconnected, I'd like to boot successfully in minimal environment and then enable devices one by one | 18:11 |
coreycb | jamespage, probably a mistake on my part if anything. I thought it was supposed to be 1. | 18:13 |
henrik | pmatulis: took me a second to get the account due to grey listing, but does this look somewhat sensible? https://bugs.launchpad.net/serverguide/+bug/1300369 | 18:14 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1300369 in serverguide "Typos in lxc unprivileged usage server guide" [Undecided,New] | 18:14 |
TJ- | dm-multipath is the device-mapper | 18:18 |
pmatulis | henrik: looks good, somebody will take a look | 18:21 |
vlad_starkov | TJ-: how about this boot params? console=tty0 console=ttyS0,115200n8 debug initcall_debug noapictimer edd=off clocksource=acpi_pm nohz=off highres=off | 18:21 |
henrik | pmatulis: thanks | 18:22 |
zul | jamespage: ok we should be ok for stable/havana on friday | 18:24 |
TJ- | vlad_starkov: I'm out of definitive ideas so keep trying anything that looks likely! I'll be afk frequently here (dinner time) | 18:36 |
vlad_starkov | TJ-: Hey! It looks I'm booting slowly... | 18:39 |
vlad_starkov | TJ-: Confirmed. Server is loading... | 18:39 |
vlad_starkov | TJ-: with this set "console=tty0 console=ttyS0,115200n8 debug initcall_debug apic=verbose sysrq_always_enabled ignore_loglevel no_hz=off nmi_watchdog=0 nolapic_timer hpet=disable idle=mwait idle=poll highmem=512m nopat notsc acpi=off pci=nomsi" | 18:40 |
sarnold | cripes | 18:40 |
vlad_starkov | TJ-: OK, fine. The system looks booted. But I see blackscreen (had to add nomodeset boot param I think). | 18:47 |
vlad_starkov | TJ-: Now will try to connect single ssd and boot with it | 18:47 |
nszceta | anybody have experience with Dell EqualLogic systems? | 18:54 |
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Phibs | why the heck is this giving me 500G swap: http://p.bsd-unix.net/pbfxjtdjl http://www.bsd-unix.net/seitz/jing/2014-03-31_1457.png | 18:57 |
TJ- | vlad_starkov: OK, so you'll have to reduce that set to figure out which setting(s) actually have an effect :) | 19:00 |
vlad_starkov | TJ-: this will take awhile)) | 19:01 |
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TJ- | vlad_starkov: I know how it goes, but at least, once it works, you have a position to work back from, to isolate the workaround, which might also help to pin down a bug in the kernel eventually | 19:02 |
vlad_starkov | TJ-: yep | 19:02 |
TJ- | Phibs: I'd suggest "64000 1000000 10000000000 ext4" because you want that partition to really get the maximum size it requests | 19:13 |
Phibs | ok... | 19:13 |
vlad_starkov | TJ-: when I boot from SSD it boots very slooow... | 19:14 |
TJ- | Phibs: The priority value should be in terms of the size values; closer to either size value will make that size more likely to win | 19:14 |
Phibs | oh.... | 19:14 |
TJ- | vlad_starkov: OK ... with all those options I'm not suprised :) | 19:14 |
vlad_starkov | TJ-: looks like CPU used intensivly, but no lockup yet | 19:14 |
Phibs | I feel preseed partitioning... is retarded then :) | 19:14 |
Phibs | but this is good info | 19:15 |
Phibs | TJ-: seems to have fixed it thanks :) | 19:15 |
TJ- | Phibs: See debian-installer package, file "/usr/share/doc/debian-installer/devel/partman-auto-recipe.txt.gz" | 19:15 |
Phibs | THANKS | 19:16 |
Phibs | grr caps | 19:16 |
TJ- | CAPS are great when ITs raining on you :p | 19:16 |
Phibs | I was fine with the auto layout, except using 100% swap | 19:16 |
Phibs | 256G ram and 256G... no | 19:16 |
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vlad_starkov | TJ-: At the very beginning of boot log I have lines like " *BAD*gran_size: 64K chunk_size: 512M num_reg: 8 lose cover RAM: -256M". Does it mean that I have corrupted memory? | 19:33 |
vlad_starkov | TJ-: can't exit ыскуут | 19:44 |
vlad_starkov | TJ-: can't exit screen | 19:44 |
vlad_starkov | TJ-: Ctrl+A returns No other window | 19:45 |
vlad_starkov | TJ-: oh, exited :) | 19:45 |
vlad_starkov | I have to go. Will continue tomorrow I guess... | 19:46 |
vlad_starkov | Bye! | 19:46 |
zul | coreycb: nova rc1 is out | 20:16 |
coreycb | zul, cool thx | 20:16 |
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coreycb | zul, jamespage : https://code.launchpad.net/~corey.bryant/nova/2014.1.rc1/+merge/213291 | 20:47 |
zul | +1 | 20:58 |
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rostam | Hi when 14.04 will be released? thx | 22:03 |
thumper | rostam: I think the schedule says 17th | 22:03 |
rostam | thumper, thx | 22:03 |
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Daviey | mdeslaur: Hey, looking at CVE-2013-4311 it was fixed in libvirt (0.9.13-0ubuntu12.5) quantal .. but MITRE don't have it listed as affecting that upstream version. Which one is incorrect ? | 22:15 |
uvirtbot | Daviey: libvirt 1.0.5.x before 1.0.5.6, 0.10.2.x before 0.10.2.8, and 0.9.12.x before 0.9.12.2 allows local users to bypass intended access restrictions by leveraging a PolkitUnixProcess PolkitSubject race condition in pkcheck via a (1) setuid process or (2) pkexec process, a related issue to CVE-2013-4288. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2013-4311) | 22:15 |
[styx] | Im getting an error stating "Connection closed by [my local host]" this is weird because I was just able to connect last night and nothing has changed since. Anyhelp? | 22:17 |
[styx] | Ive tried google but nothing relevant came up. Most was about connecting remotely. Im on my local network still | 22:17 |
antarus | utlemming: ping | 22:24 |
antarus | utlemming: you notice anything weird with the udev 9.5 bump? | 22:25 |
sarnold | Daviey: the debdiff makes it look like the 0.9.13.x branch we had had problems: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/150603203/libvirt_0.9.13-0ubuntu12.3_0.9.13-0ubuntu12.5.diff.gz | 22:29 |
Daviey | sarnold: Yeah, i'm trying to work out why it's not listed on the CVE that this version is vuln. | 22:36 |
Daviey | (or was) | 22:36 |
xperia | hi to all. i created in ubuntu a btrfs partition on a SSD Drive finally for the first time and i would like to know what are the best mount option for this btrfs partition if Read and Write Speed are very Important for working with SSDs ? what for option do you use and where do you change it ? | 22:39 |
antarus | ahh nevermind | 22:41 |
antarus | unshockingly it was a bug on our end ;p | 22:41 |
adam_g | jamespage, any chance of pushing libvirt 1.2.2-0ubuntu7~cloud0 out to icehouse-updates? | 22:46 |
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Guegs | Anybody know of a good way to schedule FTP downloads from my Offshore server (ubuntu 12.04) to my home server (12.04)? to occur every ~20 minutes or something | 23:42 |
sarnold | Guegs: man 5 crontab :) | 23:42 |
Guegs | groovy. thanks. | 23:43 |
Guegs | I was considering setting up bittorrent sync, but I need to do some more reading on groups. Just started using any sort of linux distro about a week ok. | 23:44 |
Guegs | Wow. That is quite simple. :-) | 23:47 |
sarnold | Guegs: to forestall the first question -- it is best to give full pathnames to scripts in cron jobs :) | 23:48 |
Guegs | heh, good to know. :-P | 23:48 |
Guegs | I don't have the OS installed on my home server yet. I want to get stuff tested in a VM before I do anything too crazy. | 23:49 |
sarnold | nice, VM testing is a good idea :) | 23:50 |
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