[00:00] not really. needs to work with IMAP clients and SMTP (I know postfix does SMTP), and needs SSL/TLS security if possible [00:00] i haven't had the patience to sift through the (virtually nonexistent) postfix documentation on getting this all set up though [00:02] teward if you're strapped for time and have some cash, somebody on freelancer/elance could do it for you. [00:02] Joe_knock, maybe it's just my being in a rush to get other things done that's prevented me from actually digging into it [00:02] and it's safer to assume I don't have cash :P [00:02] teward, I can understand where you're coming from. Is the mail server part of some web project? [00:02] teward: postfix with virtual aliases; deliver all email to a domain to a single user account on the server, and then have something like dovecot (IMAP4) for clients to access it [00:03] TJ-, it's the dovecot part i get lost at, I think [00:03] brb, firewall's being stupid again [00:03] for the 10th time today [00:24] back [00:25] Joe_knock, yeah, its going to be the web server for my entire site, I'm tired of using Google Apps as the backend, would rather move all the services in-house. [00:25] s/backend/email backend/ [00:25] and email's the last thing to move [00:26] TJ-, it's getting dovecot set up where I can't find step-by-step documentation... [00:26] teward, maybe you should try my method of having the webserver do all outgoing automated mail and use an external mail hosting server for incoming and response mails [00:27] teward: Dovecot's config will depend on how you organise the mailboxes, so getting postfix configured in a way that supports the ways dovecot can access mailboxes is the issue, I think [00:27] Joe_knock, I could probably do that, I still want to move all the mail for the site off of Google Apps, though, and I do need the response emails. The other problem is there's a ticketing system on the servers that needs to pull from an IMAP address for emailed-in tickets so meh [00:29] teward google apps isn't the only external mail server option. What does your app/site do? [00:30] Joe_knock, the site that's relevant is the ticket system, it's for a site that provides free IRC bouncers [00:30] interesting. [00:33] the ticketing system is the one which needs to pull from IMAP for emailed-in tickets [00:33] but meh [00:33] Joe_knock, I do have other domains I can experiment setting up, I'm trying to move from my gmail.com addresses to my own domain emails anyways so meh :P [00:35] Joe_knock, ultimately, this is an experiment, first off, before I move the data to a postfix/dovecot setup. But I still need a guide for setting it up... :/ [00:41] google? [00:42] sheptard, i'd use it if my firewall weren't causing hell... [00:42] I guess it's time to replace my network equpiment... again... [00:53] Hi, i have setup my web server and everything works as it should. The only problem i have is postfix. I cant get it to send mail outside the local area. I am a newbie so its possible that i have done some config error. [01:09] Hey RoyK === Tzunamii_ is now known as Tzunamii === Rasmus`- is now known as Rasmus` === neunon_ is now known as neunon === Daviey_ is now known as Daviey === kees_ is now known as kees === n1rvana_ is now known as n1rvana === _thumper_ is now known as thumper === FreezingAlt is now known as FreezingCold [03:47] Is it considered a good idea to update to 14.04 from 12.04 when it is released? === Sprockt is now known as Sprocks [05:01] I have an ubuntu-server 13.10 and wanted to install a gui. I was looking at this site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI for tips and it does mention sinstall ubuntu-desktop as an option. [05:01] I thought that I would juts check to see if that is still up to date and everything, I thought maybe it might have changed since the site was modified in 2012. [05:02] I almost rather uninstall the server and install just unbuntu-desktop but I figured I could just install the desktop and be pretty much the same correct? [05:04] eh nm I am still going to have the same problems I would have had with my other desktop. I need another desk/computer === RoyK^ is now known as RoyK === psivaa_ is now known as psivaa [08:28] Good morning. === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer === shauno_ is now known as shauno === caribou_ is now known as caribou [11:46] morning === lazypower_travel is now known as lazyPower === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina === cmagina is now known as cmagina-away === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina === cmagina is now known as cmagina-away === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina === mjohnson15_2 is now known as mjohnson15 [15:41] coreycb: ceilometer rc1 is out lemme know when you are ready for me to upload it to the archive [15:43] can anyone tell me why this fails to add the default gw to the interfaces config file: http://p.bsd-unix.net/puaf10jim [15:57] bug 1293177 [15:57] Launchpad bug 1293177 in samba "'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. Access denied." [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1293177 [16:19] jamespage: have you seen this? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7185546/ (trusty-trunk packages) [16:19] nope [16:20] jamespage: nm...im getting hit by that utf8-bug [16:20] zul, yeah - that sucks [16:22] jamespage: horizon rc1 is out [16:25] I need to diagnose a trusty upgrade issue :( [16:26] upgraded a machine yesterday, and it hung before grub finished loading :( [16:26] patdk-wk, trust support is in #ubuntu+1 [16:26] who was asking for support? [16:28] patdk-wk, pretty sure diagnosing an upgrade issue = support [16:28] !trusty [16:28] Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu. See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. support in #ubuntu+1 [16:28] heh? [16:28] the first step to making a support issue, is asking for help [16:28] I don't remember doing that === cmagina is now known as cmagina-away [16:28] can anyone tell me why this fails to add the default gw to the interfaces config file: http://p.bsd-unix.net/puaf10jim [16:29] coreycb, zul: pls can you check for fixed ubuntu bugs when prepareing rc1's [16:29] I was making a comment about my *current* activities [16:29] patdk-wk, that sucks a bit [16:30] patdk-wk, tbh that's foundations territory [16:30] patdk-wk, until release, installing, cofiguring, troubleshooting and spotchecking of trusty belongs in the #ubuntu+1 channel. thank you. [16:30] does anyone in here use preseed with a static net config [16:32] cfhowlett, but I didn't do any of those things, so thanks [16:34] zul: https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/horizon/icehouse-rc1/+merge/213509 [16:37] jamespage: +1 [16:42] nobody preseeds eh [16:42] phibs, I normally don't build from scratch like that [16:42] but build the machine, snapshot it, then clone [16:50] zul, tested and uploaded [16:50] jamespage: awesome [16:50] pending approval from release team - I did not reference the FFe as I don't want to close it now [16:51] patdk-wk: nod === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina === Corey__ is now known as Corey [17:29] is there anything special you can put into /etc/network/intefaces that would say "if you don't have a config for the interface, fallback to dhcp" ? [17:30] coreycb: ceilometer uploaded [17:30] zul, thanks! [17:40] is there somewhere to set the default gw in ubuntu, where it is not tied to an interface config stanza ? [17:45] hey Phibs :) I don't think I've seen a way to do that; how would that help? you've got to have at least one interface configured with an ip in order to know how to route to the gateway anyhow.. [17:46] Anyone here interested in bug reports for the trusty serverguide? I found a couple of typos in the lxc section. [17:48] henrik: sure, can you open a single bug for them? [17:49] http://pad.lv/b/serverguide [17:50] pmatulis: thanks, will create a launchpad account. (and do a quick search to see if anyone spotted the same things..) [17:51] henrik: ty bro [17:57] TJ-: I'm here [17:58] :) [17:58] The elevator=deadline is supposed to fix ultra-fast SSDs causing hangs [17:59] Which made me wonder if you might have also benefited from using "rootdelay=$SOMETHING" [17:59] TJ-: ahh, I disconnected all drives [18:00] vlad_starkov: Oh yeah! Well, try it anyhow, we seem to firing shotguns at the barn doors anyhow :) [18:00] "rootdelay=5" ? [18:01] why wouldn't you use elevator=none with ssds? [18:01] I think it's 30 by default, so I usually use 90 when I suspect it might help... If I recall the delay between the last kernel message and the bug warning, is about 21 seconds [18:01] sarnold: Because there are no SSDs connected :) [18:01] err, elevator==noop of course.. [18:01] oh :) [18:04] sarnold: Summary. Supermicro X7DBR-3, no IPMI, with 2x SDD and 4x HDD, new system trying to run even the installer, BUG soft lockup early in boot. In default config (with an initrd) hangs at init-bottom, without initrd, still hangs. Let me link you to a pastebin of the kernel log, captured over serial, from last Friday: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7169894/ [18:04] TJ-: Here fresh logs with different set of boot params http://paste.ubuntu.com/7186017/ [18:06] vlad_starkov: Was this the system that "noacpi" worked on? And one thing I was trying to do was isolate which ACPI facility was causing the hang? [18:06] vlad_starkov: We tried "nolapic", did we ever try "nolapic noapic" ? === TDog_ is now known as TDog [18:07] TJ-: yes we did [18:08] coreycb, zul: was the epoch bump on ceilometer intentional? [18:08] -queuebot/#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ceilometer (trusty-proposed/main) [2014.1~b3-0ubuntu3 => 1:2014.1~rc1-0ubuntu1] (ubuntu-server) [18:09] jamespage: er...no [18:09] i missed that when reviewing it [18:09] TJ-: the interesting thing is that with some sets of boot params, for ex. "debug initcall_debug console=tty0 console=ttyS0,115200n8 elevator=deadline", the systems does no fall in hang and responds to Ctrl+Alt+Del [18:10] zul, lets get it rejected and re-upload with epoch :-) [18:10] TJ-: "systemd-udevd[1024]: timeout: killing '/sbin/modprobe -qba dm-multipath' [1107]" [18:10] jamespage: yeah [18:10] TJ-: "dm-multipath" - is a module name? [18:11] vlad_starkov: Does the "elevator=deadline" cure it completely... with disks connected? [18:11] TJ-: disks are currenly disconnected, I'd like to boot successfully in minimal environment and then enable devices one by one [18:13] jamespage, probably a mistake on my part if anything. I thought it was supposed to be 1. [18:14] pmatulis: took me a second to get the account due to grey listing, but does this look somewhat sensible? https://bugs.launchpad.net/serverguide/+bug/1300369 [18:14] Launchpad bug 1300369 in serverguide "Typos in lxc unprivileged usage server guide" [Undecided,New] [18:18] dm-multipath is the device-mapper [18:21] henrik: looks good, somebody will take a look [18:21] TJ-: how about this boot params? console=tty0 console=ttyS0,115200n8 debug initcall_debug noapictimer edd=off clocksource=acpi_pm nohz=off highres=off [18:22] pmatulis: thanks [18:24] jamespage: ok we should be ok for stable/havana on friday [18:36] vlad_starkov: I'm out of definitive ideas so keep trying anything that looks likely! I'll be afk frequently here (dinner time) [18:39] TJ-: Hey! It looks I'm booting slowly... [18:39] TJ-: Confirmed. Server is loading... [18:40] TJ-: with this set "console=tty0 console=ttyS0,115200n8 debug initcall_debug apic=verbose sysrq_always_enabled ignore_loglevel no_hz=off nmi_watchdog=0 nolapic_timer hpet=disable idle=mwait idle=poll highmem=512m nopat notsc acpi=off pci=nomsi" [18:40] cripes [18:47] TJ-: OK, fine. The system looks booted. But I see blackscreen (had to add nomodeset boot param I think). [18:47] TJ-: Now will try to connect single ssd and boot with it [18:54] anybody have experience with Dell EqualLogic systems? === TDog_ is now known as TDog [18:57] why the heck is this giving me 500G swap: http://p.bsd-unix.net/pbfxjtdjl http://www.bsd-unix.net/seitz/jing/2014-03-31_1457.png [19:00] vlad_starkov: OK, so you'll have to reduce that set to figure out which setting(s) actually have an effect :) [19:01] TJ-: this will take awhile)) === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [19:02] vlad_starkov: I know how it goes, but at least, once it works, you have a position to work back from, to isolate the workaround, which might also help to pin down a bug in the kernel eventually [19:02] TJ-: yep [19:13] Phibs: I'd suggest "64000 1000000 10000000000 ext4" because you want that partition to really get the maximum size it requests [19:13] ok... [19:14] TJ-: when I boot from SSD it boots very slooow... [19:14] Phibs: The priority value should be in terms of the size values; closer to either size value will make that size more likely to win [19:14] oh.... [19:14] vlad_starkov: OK ... with all those options I'm not suprised :) [19:14] TJ-: looks like CPU used intensivly, but no lockup yet [19:14] I feel preseed partitioning... is retarded then :) [19:15] but this is good info [19:15] TJ-: seems to have fixed it thanks :) [19:15] Phibs: See debian-installer package, file "/usr/share/doc/debian-installer/devel/partman-auto-recipe.txt.gz" [19:16] THANKS [19:16] grr caps [19:16] CAPS are great when ITs raining on you :p [19:16] I was fine with the auto layout, except using 100% swap [19:16] 256G ram and 256G... no === cmagina is now known as cmagina-away === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina [19:33] TJ-: At the very beginning of boot log I have lines like " *BAD*gran_size: 64K chunk_size: 512M num_reg: 8 lose cover RAM: -256M". Does it mean that I have corrupted memory? [19:44] TJ-: can't exit ыскуут [19:44] TJ-: can't exit screen [19:45] TJ-: Ctrl+A returns No other window [19:45] TJ-: oh, exited :) [19:46] I have to go. Will continue tomorrow I guess... [19:46] Bye! [20:16] coreycb: nova rc1 is out [20:16] zul, cool thx === thesheff17_ is now known as thesheff17 === lopta is now known as ball [20:47] zul, jamespage : https://code.launchpad.net/~corey.bryant/nova/2014.1.rc1/+merge/213291 [20:58] +1 === cmagina is now known as cmagina-away === thesheff17_ is now known as thesheff17 [22:03] Hi when 14.04 will be released? thx [22:03] rostam: I think the schedule says 17th [22:03] thumper, thx === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina [22:15] mdeslaur: Hey, looking at CVE-2013-4311 it was fixed in libvirt (0.9.13-0ubuntu12.5) quantal .. but MITRE don't have it listed as affecting that upstream version. Which one is incorrect ? [22:15] Daviey: libvirt 1.0.5.x before 1.0.5.6, 0.10.2.x before 0.10.2.8, and 0.9.12.x before 0.9.12.2 allows local users to bypass intended access restrictions by leveraging a PolkitUnixProcess PolkitSubject race condition in pkcheck via a (1) setuid process or (2) pkexec process, a related issue to CVE-2013-4288. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2013-4311) [22:17] <[styx]> Im getting an error stating "Connection closed by [my local host]" this is weird because I was just able to connect last night and nothing has changed since. Anyhelp? [22:17] <[styx]> Ive tried google but nothing relevant came up. Most was about connecting remotely. Im on my local network still [22:24] utlemming: ping [22:25] utlemming: you notice anything weird with the udev 9.5 bump? [22:29] Daviey: the debdiff makes it look like the 0.9.13.x branch we had had problems: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/150603203/libvirt_0.9.13-0ubuntu12.3_0.9.13-0ubuntu12.5.diff.gz [22:36] sarnold: Yeah, i'm trying to work out why it's not listed on the CVE that this version is vuln. [22:36] (or was) [22:39] hi to all. i created in ubuntu a btrfs partition on a SSD Drive finally for the first time and i would like to know what are the best mount option for this btrfs partition if Read and Write Speed are very Important for working with SSDs ? what for option do you use and where do you change it ? [22:41] ahh nevermind [22:41] unshockingly it was a bug on our end ;p [22:46] jamespage, any chance of pushing libvirt 1.2.2-0ubuntu7~cloud0 out to icehouse-updates? === cmagina is now known as cmagina-away [23:42] Anybody know of a good way to schedule FTP downloads from my Offshore server (ubuntu 12.04) to my home server (12.04)? to occur every ~20 minutes or something [23:42] Guegs: man 5 crontab :) [23:43] groovy. thanks. [23:44] I was considering setting up bittorrent sync, but I need to do some more reading on groups. Just started using any sort of linux distro about a week ok. [23:47] Wow. That is quite simple. :-) [23:48] Guegs: to forestall the first question -- it is best to give full pathnames to scripts in cron jobs :) [23:48] heh, good to know. :-P [23:49] I don't have the OS installed on my home server yet. I want to get stuff tested in a VM before I do anything too crazy. [23:50] nice, VM testing is a good idea :)