[05:05] <Kilos> morning all
[05:18] <Spekko> Morning Kilos
[05:18] <Kilos> hi Spekko  
[05:18] <Spekko> how was the weekend?
[05:19] <Kilos> where is the wokkie that jabbers so much
[05:41] <Kilos> morning jabberwocky93  
[05:41] <jabberwocky93> morning Kilos :)
[05:49] <Spekko> He's late
[05:49] <Spekko> always "stuck in traffic"
[05:51] <Kilos> hehe
[05:52] <Kilos> any excuse is better than none
[05:53] <jabberwocky93> lol @ spekko
[05:54]  * jabberwocky93 is never late, everyone's always early
[05:55] <Kilos> haha
[05:57] <Kilos> hi bduk  
[06:30] <Squirm> morning
[06:30] <Kilos> morning Squirm  
[06:56] <magespawn> good morning
[06:56] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[07:02] <magespawn> whats up Kilos?
[07:03] <Kilos> hmm... everything is working only need to first get modem going with xp then can reboot to ubuntu otherwise nm dont see it
[07:03] <Kilos> grrr
[07:04] <Kilos> other buntu drive sees it fine now
[07:04] <Kilos> grrr some more
[07:04] <Kilos> whats up by you?
[07:05] <bduk> Morning everyone. Kilos whats this xp thing i see here???
[07:05] <Kilos> i have xp on first 20g of my 500g drive because ubuntu dont like working in that area
[07:06] <bduk> lyk my ons het 2 verraaiers hier
[07:06] <Kilos> haha no man its only to use up bad area of the drive and now to switch my new telkom modem
[07:07] <bduk> Just joking also using xp and 7 for some things
[07:07] <Kilos> it was a badly crashed drive i was given to save data off
[07:08] <Kilos> xp is still the best os for doing modem work on
[07:08] <Kilos> most of the tools are for xp
[07:20] <Kilos> wb magespawn  
[07:20] <magespawn> yoyo time today?
[07:20] <Kilos> looks like
[07:41] <Kilos> hi Golynx  
[07:41] <Golynx> hi Kilos
[07:42] <Kilos> hi Vince-0  
[07:42] <Golynx> hey Vince-0
[08:03] <Vince-0> Gooie more Kilos en Golynx 
[08:03] <Vince-0> lekka naweek?
[08:03] <Kilos> ja dankie en jy
[08:05] <Vince-0> lekka rustig 
[08:05] <Vince-0> baie games gespeel
[08:05] <Vince-0> Goat Simulator lolz
[08:10] <Kilos> lol
[08:13] <Vince-0> you get points for making things blow up, go flying and do back flips
[08:15] <Kilos> whew
[08:43] <Kilos> wbb
[08:55] <Kilos> hi superfly  
[08:55] <superfly> hi Kilos
[09:02] <Golynx> hi superfly
[09:03] <superfly> hi Golynx
[09:20] <Kilos> oh my everyone is on the yoyo
[09:49] <JabberwockyA19> good old monday morning, even for the ZA routing team
[14:03] <inetpro> good mornings
[14:08] <Golynx> you know when MTN and Vodacom are upset, when your Cellc connection keeps disconnecting like never before lol
[14:08] <Trixar_za> That made no sense
[14:10] <Golynx> Trixar_za: here is a vodacom tower by me. I'm using Cellc . Its the 5th time i disconnected today. Never had this problem before
[14:11] <Golynx> so i'm guessing its because Vodacom lost the court case
[14:11] <Trixar_za> I had it quite often on CellC
[14:13] <Trixar_za> And I doubt it. They can be sued to death for business practices like that.
[14:13] <Trixar_za> I also know a few guys that works for the centers at Vodacom :P
[14:14] <Golynx> yeah true, but in they're eyes having to pay 44c/minute is so unfair that they will wana try hurt the smaller players somehow  that only have to pay 20c/minute lol
[14:16] <Trixar_za> Yes, because 24c is worth the million rand fine they'll get for unethical business practices.
[14:16] <Trixar_za> I think it's more likely that CellC's network is taking a bigger hit than usual
[14:16] <Trixar_za> Probably the school kids
[14:18] <Golynx> i usually disconnected a few weeks at a time, but today was strange it hit me 5 times on this "important" day for the mobile operators. 
[14:20] <Trixar_za> https://fbcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t1.0-0/998474_10152371153914903_441301697_n.png
[14:20] <Trixar_za> ^--- And very useful with Eskom
[14:20] <Golynx> maybe Cellc is taking a hit by the new customers joining the operator. Since from tomorrow they will enjoy much lower prices for atleast 6 months :) 
[14:21] <Trixar_za> Not the first time CellC took a hit from it's business plans out-running it's capabilities
[14:21] <Trixar_za> Keeps the techs busy I guess :P
[14:22] <Golynx> lol
[14:22] <Golynx> yeah i guess that explains it :)
[14:24] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za  
[14:24] <Kilos> where do i find libusb.h
[14:25] <Kilos> my new sakis can only switch modem but nothing else
[14:28] <Trixar_za> Try apt install libusb-1.0
[14:37] <Kilos> i have that and libusb-devs
[14:38] <Kilos> i will try again inna morning
[14:38] <Kilos> using xp to wake the modem now then rebooting to 12.04
[14:39] <Kilos> i hope nm is better in 14.04
[14:39] <Kilos> been 12.04 s biggest prob
[14:39] <Trixar_za> Why are you still on 12.04?
[14:40] <Trixar_za> That's nearly 2 years old
[14:41] <Kilos> ya but i can go with new os evry 6 months
[14:41] <Kilos> lts to lts now
[14:42] <Trixar_za> Yeah, Peppermint is based on the LTS version too
[14:42] <Trixar_za> I think. I may be confusing it with another one :P
[14:42] <Trixar_za> lol
[14:43] <Trixar_za> Too many Linux distros in the last few weeks -_-
[14:43] <Kilos> hehe
[14:44] <Kilos> is peppermint part of mint?
[14:44] <Kilos> still using gnome2?
[14:48]  * Golynx misses windows :(
[14:50] <Kilos> what havent you got working yet in linux?
[14:50] <Kilos> it works good for me to use up space in drives with bad sectors
[14:50] <Golynx> yeah i love linux , but mis this game mostly :p http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JhjYa0pvQ6k/T6ZZTKu0UEI/AAAAAAAABs0/eyQ8WCy9S20/s1600/Tricky+Truck+screenshot+2.jpg
[14:51] <Kilos> haha
[14:52] <Golynx> it uesd to keep me going when i got frustrated with my work. I used to beat many guys highscores from all over the world
[14:52] <Golynx> used*
[14:52] <Trixar_za> No, it's an Lubuntu fork with some Mint features (mostly the file manager). It's a project on it's own though.
[14:52] <Kilos> aha
[14:52] <Trixar_za> er - not file manager - software manager
[14:52] <Golynx> the developer cant make a linux port 
[14:53] <Kilos> i could enjoy using gnome 2 again
[14:54] <Kilos> 10.10 was very lekker and fast and stable
[14:54] <Kilos> lets hope new unity has improved lots
[15:26] <Kilos> hi aquarat  
[15:26] <aquarat> hey kilos :)
[15:29] <Kilos> wb spekko_  
[15:29] <Kilos> oh my
[15:45] <Kilos> hi Private_User  
[15:46] <Golynx> hi Private_User
[15:47] <Golynx> hey aquarat and Spekko
[15:53] <Private_User> afternoon all
[15:53] <Private_User> or is it evening yet?
[15:53] <Kilos> about
[15:57] <Kilos> whew Private_User  you also on the yoyo
[16:01] <Private_User> more like a roller coaster ride
[16:01] <Private_User> hehe
[16:02] <JabberwockyA19> joy ride!
[16:02] <Golynx> unhappy networks today lol
[16:03] <Kilos> yeah
[16:36] <Kilos> ai!
[16:36] <Kilos> inetpro  fix it
[16:45] <Kilos> ai!
[16:46] <Private_User> definitely a roller coaster
[16:48] <Kilos> we need to work out a plan on how to get this sorted
[16:48] <Kilos> one must be able to rev some ceo somewhere
[16:51] <Kilos> hi Tonberry  can you fix it
[16:51] <Tonberry> hello and what?
[16:51] <Kilos> the yoyo internet we have today
[16:52] <Tonberry> mine seems ok...
[16:52] <Kilos> pages and pages of join parts
[16:52] <Kilos> mine too but everyone else is in and out
[16:52] <Tonberry> then again i have only been online for about a minute
[16:52] <Kilos> haha
[16:52] <Kilos> lets watch
[16:54]  * Golynx thinks when the network providers in SA, stop fighting amongst each other, things will be more stable
[16:54] <Golynx> hi Tonberry
[16:54] <Tonberry> hi
[17:00] <Golynx> ai
[17:00] <jabberwocky93> tyd om die roller coaster huis toe te vat, bye
[17:06] <captine> hi all
[17:07] <Kilos> hi captine  
[17:09] <Golynx> hey captine
[17:43] <Private_User> looks like mine is starting again
[17:43] <Kilos> its been bad all day
[17:43] <Private_User> 42 second ping response
[17:44] <Private_User> eish it just never ends we had no power yesterday and most of today
[17:45] <Private_User> and now unstable internet
[17:45] <Private_User> ok then gonna go for a break and be back
[17:46] <Kilos> lol
[17:46] <Kilos> tough in south africa
[17:46] <Kilos> we have power off tomorrow to work on power lines
[18:20] <Kilos> oh my they even got the fly
[18:20] <Kilos> inetpro  you still alive??
[18:28] <inetpro> helo
[18:29] <Kilos> hmm... it breathes
[18:31]  * inetpro has a stable net, what's up doc
[18:33] <inetpro> good evening everyone
[18:39] <Kilos> mine is stable too inetpro  but everyone else is yoyoing
[18:39] <inetpro> everyone else?
[18:39] <Kilos> oh dont you see join parts
[18:40] <inetpro> not everyone
[18:40] <Kilos> golynx jabberwokkie spekko 
[18:40] <Kilos> Private_User  
[18:40] <Kilos> mage and vince
[18:41] <Kilos> and now the fly is gone too
[18:45] <Kilos> and you were gone yesterday
[18:45] <Kilos> grrr
[18:46] <inetpro> well, still not everyone
[18:47] <Golynx> lol i blame Vodacom and MTN :p
[18:47] <Golynx> hi inetpro
[18:47] <Kilos> sigh
[18:48] <inetpro> shame
[18:48] <Kilos> no Golynx  the fly ha adsl
[18:48] <Kilos> has
[18:48] <inetpro> poor VC and MTN now get blamed for everything?
[18:48] <Kilos> lol ya
[18:49] <Golynx> just kidding Kilos 
[18:49] <Kilos> i dont understand the whole thing in the court
[18:49] <Kilos> the news said mtn and voda must charge 20c a minute
[18:50] <Kilos> and telkom and cellc can charge 44c
[18:50] <Kilos> i dont understand
[18:51] <Golynx> my sudden disconnections today, i believe is about the new customers flocking to Cellc. Now that from tomorrow they and Telkom mobile will pay less in call termination rates.
[18:52] <Kilos> what is call termination rates?
[18:52] <Golynx> Kilos its to bring more competition to Vodacom and MTN . Thats what ICASA wants.
[18:53] <Golynx> Maaz google call termination rates
[18:53] <Maaz> Golynx: "Termination rates - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Termination_rates :: "Call termination - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_termination :: "Ofcom | Regulated prices" http://media.ofcom.org.uk/analysts/regulated-prices/ :: "Icasa releases final regulations on mobile termination rates ..."
[18:53] <Maaz> http://www.bdlive.co.za/business/technology/2014/01/29/icasa-releases-final-regulations-on…
[18:53] <inetpro> the ten culprits of the day: 18 magespawn, 8 Vince-0, 8 Spekko, 7 Golynx, 7 cr33p, 6 Private_User, 5 jabberwocky93, 4 bduk, 3 superfly, 3 Kilos
[18:53] <Golynx> but its a short term fix 
[18:53] <Kilos> i wasnt off at all
[18:54] <Kilos> i manually logged off to change drives once early on
[18:54] <inetpro> those ^^ are the ten most quit and join yoyo nicks of the day
[18:54] <Kilos> where you find that info inetpro  
[18:54] <Kilos> you good at this kinda thing hey
[18:55] <inetpro> copy paste from above and then grep, cut and sort
[18:55] <Kilos> anyway thats about 40% of us
[18:55] <Golynx> i guessed right 7 is spot on lol
[18:56] <inetpro> just had to tweak some of them with multiple nicks
[18:56] <Kilos> slimjan
[18:56] <Kilos> where is the rain now again
[18:59] <inetpro> what rain?
[18:59] <Kilos> ya that
[19:00] <Kilos> the free wet stuff from the sky
[19:03] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight.
[19:03] <Kilos> see you tomorrow when power returns
[19:03] <Kilos> be good
[19:04] <Golynx> night Kilos
[19:04] <Kilos> Maaz  watch them
[19:04] <Maaz> OK Kilos I'll keep an eye on them for you
[19:04] <Kilos> Maaz  ty
[19:04] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[19:09] <inetpro> ai!
[19:31] <inetpro> wb superfly
[19:32] <superfly> thanks... datacentre issues
[19:33] <inetpro> eish!
[19:35] <inetpro> hopefully fixed now
[19:36] <Vince-0> o/
[19:37] <inetpro> wb Vince-0
[19:38] <inetpro> oh and welcome psydroid
[19:38] <Vince-0> gosh darn would you look at the time
[19:38] <inetpro> time?
[19:38] <inetpro> what is that>
[20:15] <inetpro> wb nlsthzn 
[20:27] <nlsthzn> o/
[20:37] <nlsthzn> so how is ZA land?
[20:44] <inetpro> good and you? 
[20:44] <nlsthzn> good thanks... but it is bed time so will catch you all later :)
[20:45] <inetpro> better start watching out for the April fools stories 
[21:10] <Golynx> \o_night!
[22:19] <Private_User> morning people