[00:00] <tester> come on that bull I test software and I should not be locked out of my own file system  ................  it used to be u could  create a root account and loging this crap really
[00:00] <tester> its my file ssytem if I want to trash I should be able to if I want
[00:01] <ikonia> tester: the root account is for people to use for specific tasks of people experienced enough to be root
[00:01] <ikonia> tester: if you cannot follow the simple instructions that the command is "sudo -i" to get a root shell - you shouldn't be using it
[00:02] <tester> its still my computer my file system   i should be able to do what I want with it that is the whole I dea behind free softeare foundation
[00:02] <tester> and linux
[00:02] <tester> WHAT THE FUCK ARE U BE CREATING ANY WAY
[00:02] <ikonia> you can do anthing you want with it
[00:02] <ikonia> anything
[00:03] <daftykins> tester: you're welcome to discuss the policy of sudo in ubuntu in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:06] <rww> your*
[00:07] <daftykins> rww: er, no
[00:07] <rww> err, yes
[00:07] <rww> it was correcting ikonia, not you
[00:07] <daftykins> ah right
[00:07] <daftykins> perhaps a highlight would be useful (:
[00:08] <daftykins> good to see there's enough active to sort the trolls for once
[00:08] <rww> i would have done so if it weren't the most recent text :3
[00:08] <daftykins> i don't see anything after i spoke last
[00:08] <daftykins> aaah the kick
[00:09] <daftykins> my client is so unreadable at times ¬_¬
[00:10] <logical> hey guys can i somehow set up like 10 pictures to change every 15 min  (wallpapers) on my desktop
[00:11] <Beldar> logical, check out wallach, not sure if ut's in the repos or just a ppa
[00:11] <Beldar> it's*
[00:11] <Beldar> !info wallach
[00:11] <Beldar> !find wallach
[00:12] <LarsN> on 13.10 desktop in live, is it still possible to get fsck.ntfs?
[00:12] <dervish> Saludos c:
[00:13] <logical> will try it out
[00:14] <logical> wow wallch is great thx
[00:14] <logical> guys
[00:14] <Beldar> LarsN, There is some 3rd party fsck for ntfs, personally I would just do a chkdsk
[00:15] <LarsN> Beldar: can't do chkdisk from windows, if it BSOD's even when booting safe with command prompt :)
[00:16] <Beldar> LarsN, No recovery or install dsic?
[00:16] <LarsN> Beldar: unfortunately not.
[00:16] <Beldar> LarsN, What windows release?
[00:16] <LarsN> Beldar: I'm willing to spend a little time in linux to see if I can clean it up, otherwise, time to suggest a replacement machine.
[00:16] <LarsN> Vista :/
[00:18] <Beldar> LarsN, You can buy one, I would use the windows tools to fix windows. https://neosmart.net/blog/2008/windows-vista-recovery-disc-download/?ModPagespeed=noscript
[00:19] <Beldar> LarsN, In a perfect world you would have vista imaged/cloned, fully backed up and a recovery disc. ;)
[00:19] <LarsN> Beldar: in a perfect world my family members would run proper operating systems  too :)
[00:20] <LarsN> Beldar: with amanda backups pushed to remote storage.  In this case I'm in town from 1300 miles away, so I'll do what I can but am not entierly investedin it :)
[00:20] <Beldar> heh. true, pesky lazy people using proprietary to check their email.
[00:20] <logical> is there a shortcut to opent he "Files" (file browser) in windows it is win key + e (to open explorer)
[00:21] <Beldar> logical, You might like synapse it is a gui app search.
[00:21] <Beldar> the dash without all the bling
[00:22] <bazhang> synaptic?
[00:22] <Beldar> no synapse
[00:22] <Beldar> kinda like gnome-do  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/synapse-gnome-do-launcher-app-review-ubuntu
[00:23] <logical> looks nice
[00:24] <qin> Beldar: what century you have arrived?
[00:24] <Beldar> qin, 1492, you?
[00:24] <logical> but i figured out, on my left side the files are at the 1st place so i just use Super key +1, does the stuf
[00:24] <Beldar> qin, I mean if we need trade insults this is not the place. ;)
[00:25] <qin> Beldar: I am like '90 forever. It is not insult, gnome-do is quite old and rarely seen
[00:26] <Beldar> qin, just a "like" reference is all.
[00:27] <o------> hhi
[00:27] <kostkon> o------, hi
[00:27] <o------> how do i get rid of the i cons on the side of the desktop
[00:28] <kostkon> o------, you can set the launcher to autohide
[00:29] <qin> Beldar: ok, anyway synapse looks pretty neat
[00:32] <o------> can you use the icons like how windows is
[00:34] <Bray90820_> nu9,uyu8-j0
[00:36] <Beldar> qin, I like it, all the panels with unity and the gnome shell are cumbersome for me, faster this way.
[00:36] <o------> is their a wall street journal app for ubuntu
[01:06] <furnaps> hello
[01:08] <furnaps> anyone awake in here? not used to using irc so not sure if im in the rite channel or even what channels exist but I have a quick question about linux-wacom project
[01:11] <Beldar> furnaps, If you have a issue, state it for help.
[01:11] <sadpuppy> furs gay help him
[01:12] <rww> ...
[01:12] <rww> sadpuppy: That's not appropriate.
[01:12] <Beldar> gets a free ignore
[01:14] <unicornjedi> hello, I have a problem where my ubuntu saucy desktop wont wake up properly from suspend. When I wake it up, all I get a flash of text, followed my login background in the span of 1 second, then the screen is blank. No mouse, Cannot access any consoles.
[01:15] <furnaps> I am trying to get my wacom tablet to work in ubuntu and it doesn't recognize it so i am trying to install the kernal drivers but stuck here - sudo cp ./<kernel version>/wacom.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/input/tablet  ... when I do uname -r i get kernal version 3.11.0-12 generic .. should I replace <kernal version> with 3.11?
[01:16] <furnaps> It wants my to replace <Kernal version> in the command line with my kernal version but im not sure what to put there
[01:16] <gonyere> furnaps - yes, that would be my guess - 3.11.0-12
[01:18] <furnaps> here at the build/install step is where I am stuck.. http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/linuxwacom/index.php?title=Input-wacom
[01:18] <unicornjedi> hello, I have a problem where my ubuntu saucy desktop wont wake up properly from suspend. When I wake it up, all I get a flash of text, followed my login background in the span of 1 second, then the screen is blank. No mouse, Cannot access any consoles.
[01:19] <furnaps> Its just weird because the one tutorial I read the guy says this: Now you've compiled the drive, it needs to be moved over to the drivers directory. Select the version number appropriate for your kernel. I used version 3.7, and therefore directory 3.7. Despite running version 3.11.0-15-generic of the kernel.
[01:20] <Beldar> furnaps, What ubuntu release?
[01:20] <furnaps> 13.10 Beldar
[01:21] <Beldar> Cool, the 3.7 made me ask is all.
[01:21] <furnaps> I dont understand why he put 3.7 instead of what his kernal version is so its making me wonder what I should put
[01:22] <gonyere> hmm that is odd...
[01:24] <gonyere> I'd still go with 3.11 unless I found a compelling reason to use something else
[01:24] <furnaps> If you could maybe look at the wiki page really quick and just let me know if you can make sense of what I should do for the "Build/Install" step I would really appreciate it : http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/linuxwacom/index.php?title=Input-wacom
[01:24] <furnaps> Should I put 3.11 in there then? and not the whole 3.11.0-12
[01:30] <Phoenixz> Question about apt-get.. I try to install some pacakges, but I get errors like libboost-all-dev : Depends: libboost-dev but it is not going to be installed.. Okay, so libboost-all-dev depends on libboost-dev, but libboost-dev is not going to be installed because... why exactly??
[01:38] <DarwinSurvivor> Phoenixz: try running "sudo apt-get -f install" (f for "fix")
[01:38] <DarwinSurvivor> after that, try installing the package again
[01:50] <cyford> my computer is going crazy
[01:50] <cyford>  cant close windows
[01:50] <cyford>  usually happens when i do updates and dont reboot...  but i stopped doing updates
[01:50] <haT> hello
[01:51] <cyford> however my power button still red  for reboot now
[01:51] <daftykins> lol stopped updating - that's not a recipe for success!
[01:51] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: typically after updates if the kernel and/or video card driver get updated. are you sure you didn't do an upgrade since your last reboot?
[01:52] <cyford> yes ,  i stopped a long time ago...   i still see the updater window asking me
[01:52] <haT> hey guys, why does python syntax changes so much with every version update ?
[01:52] <rww> haT: ask #python?
[01:52] <rww> (you'll need to log into NickServ to do that)
[01:52] <cyford> my pc  been wanting to reboot for about a week now
[01:52] <cyford>  but now its unbarable
[01:53] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: if it's asking to reboot, that is almost always because a kernel update was installed
[01:53] <DarwinSurvivor> perhaps you clicked "update" by accident a while back and didn't realize it
[01:54] <cyford> it didnt pop a msg out,    i just see my power button red...
[01:54] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: a reboot sounds like the best fix for your problem. are you able to do that, or would you like help doing it safely (holding the power button is NOT recommended)
[01:54] <cyford>   it it did update  it did it in back ground without asking me
[01:54] <cyford> yes
[01:54] <cyford>   i have to now
[01:54] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: oh, well without knowing what tower/motherboard/etc you have there's not much we can say about a red power button...
[01:55] <cyford>   but dam  this is like every week
[01:55] <rww> DarwinSurvivor: I think they mean the system menu button in the Ubuntu UI...
[01:55] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: once it's back online, let us know and we can help you figure out when the last update was installed and what got updated (there are some fairly simple log files)
[01:55] <Beldar> cyford, This channel is for support, we can help if you have details, not complaints.
[01:55] <cyford> its the ubuntu  button not my physical pc
[01:55] <DarwinSurvivor> rww: oh, never mind then :P
[01:55] <cyford> button top right    turns red
[01:56] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: then we recommend doing a reboot, afterwards we can investigate what may be causing this
[01:57] <cyford> Beldar,   i loose data and work,  i probably wont sound like a happy camper..   however  i havent been complaining
[01:57] <cyford>   im here looking for help
[01:57] <Beldar> cyford, post after post with no real details.....please.
[01:58] <cyford> I posing my problem
[01:58] <cyford>    and what ever i am beeing asked
[01:58] <cyford>   what would you like to know
[02:00] <kostkon> cyford, so you are being asked to reboot. most likely because you have installed a kernel update. after that?
[02:00] <cyford> red ubuntu button  at the top right turns red about every week..  pc   brings down almost to a halt..   ..  i have an i7  12gb  mem,     i was working  on firefox,   bask scripting on terminal to my  centos server...  i can take screen shot if that would help  but need to reboot before i can show anyone\
[02:01] <cyford> ok
[02:01] <cyford>   i said this is happing every week
[02:01] <rww> red ubuntu button = it's waiting for a reboot due to updates. security updates come out every so often. every week is not unusual.
[02:01] <cyford>  i was asked to do that last week too
[02:01] <rww> it would not cause "pc brings down almost to a halt" though, so if that is also happening then that's a separate issue
[02:02] <DarwinSurvivor> rww: if the video card driver is being updated, i've seen that cause performance issues on my systems (typically fixed by logging out/in)
[02:02] <kostkon> cyford, getting kernel updates every week or so is unusual
[02:02] <rww> DarwinSurvivor: I guess, if you're using non-free drivers.
[02:02] <cyford> i cant right click,
[02:03] <cyford> ok  going for a reboot again :)       i guess ill try again next week lol
[02:03] <kostkon> cyford, so you have problems after you reboot
[02:03] <cyford> nope  everything is nice an fresh after reboot
[02:03] <kostkon> cyford, so?
[02:04] <cyford> um,  i dont think it should be like this
[02:04] <kostkon> cyford, still haven't figured out what is your problem exactly
[02:04] <cyford>  i just want to fix it
[02:04] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: it will be much easier to figure out what is going on after the reboot
[02:04] <kostkon> cyford, what exactly you need to fix
[02:05] <cyford> yeah if i knew the problem i would of probably fixed it too lol
[02:05] <cyford>   it feels like a mem leak
[02:05] <cyford>  my windows  freeze in place
[02:05] <cyford>    is there a reset command that doesnt reboot
[02:06] <kostkon> cyford, you are installing updates and every week the red icon changes to red. that situation is not normal
[02:06] <kostkon> cyford, have you added any extra repos
[02:11] <cyford> ok  reload    cleaned my screen
[02:11] <cyford>   and i see  now that
[02:11] <cyford> ubuntuone-syncd   is using 100% cpu
[02:11] <cyford> but my system is still operational now
[02:12] <kostkon> cyford, http://askubuntu.com/questions/133058/ubuntu-one-taking-up-40-170-of-cpu-usage-with-i5-processor
[02:13] <cyford> yeah    thank ya
[02:13] <Ceninant> !netflix
[02:13] <kostkon> cyford, bug report here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/913912
[02:15] <DarwinSurvivor> Ceninant: hmm, that netflix data may be out of date. most people I know have switched to pipelight (works great on our computer).
[02:17] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: if you want, we can step you through checking to see if you have some kind of automated update set up.
[02:17] <cyford> ok  that would be nice
[02:18] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: ok, I'm assuming you are using unity, correct?
[02:19] <cyford> the priority issue was   mistake though  but even with the high cpu   after logging back in everything is fine  and its not asking me to reboot
[02:19] <cyford>   yes
[02:19] <cyford> i did get this message   then i logged back in
[02:19] <cyford> Your display manager log files may help developers diagnose the bug, but may contain sensitive information such as your hostname.  Do you want to include these logs in your bug report?
[02:21] <cyford> DarwinSurvivor,   yes im using unity,    im new to it though
[02:21] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: your hostname is usually not a huge issue (more of an issue in companies)
[02:21] <cyford> yes  i sent it,
[02:21] <DarwinSurvivor> or, click the gear in the top-right corner and select System Settings
[02:22] <cyford> ok
[02:22] <DarwinSurvivor> then go to System -> Software & Updates (near the bottom)
[02:23] <cyford> ok ,  im there
[02:23] <DarwinSurvivor> go to the "Updates" tab
[02:23] <henson> Is there an UbuntuGnome specific IRC channel? I've got a command line install -- and I'd like to throw on the most minimal version of Gnome3 possible.
[02:23] <DarwinSurvivor> now there should be 4 checkboxes and 4 drop-downs
[02:24] <cyford> only checked important updates,  check dailty,  display immediatly,  notify new version is disabled
[02:24] <Beldar> henson, #gnome
[02:25] <rww> henson: #ubuntu-gnome, perhaps?
[02:25] <rww> henson: but if you're just looking for the right metapackage, someone here should know that
[02:25]  * rww looks it up
[02:26] <jacksina> Good evening. Does anyone know where I can find the client.so library?
[02:26] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: ok, that looks fine, though you may want to consider enabling "recommended" so your regular software gets non-security updates (features, bug fixes, etc)
[02:26] <jacksina> sorry
[02:26] <kostkon> !find client.so
[02:26] <jacksina> I'm running ubuntu 12.04 64 bi
[02:27] <rww> jacksina: depends on what exactly the context is. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=client.so&mode=exactfilename&suite=saucy&arch=any
[02:27] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: what do you have enable on the "Other Software" tab?
[02:27] <rww> erm, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=lucid&arch=any&mode=exactfilename&searchon=contents&keywords=client.so
[02:27] <cyford> only 2
[02:27] <cyford> http://ppa.launchpad.net/ehoover/compholio/ubuntu
[02:27] <cyford> http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu
[02:27] <Beldar> henson, sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install gnome-shell  maybe?
[02:27] <rww> !info gnome-core | henson
[02:28] <rww> that's pulled in from Debianland, but it should still work fine
[02:30] <cyford> is there a gui place to view systmem errors?
[02:30] <cyford> *System
[02:30] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: ok, compholio is for netflix, but I don't recognize what the webupd8team one is for
[02:31] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: not really. you can open the log files with a text editor though
[02:31] <cyford> the other one was for my java,   had a hard time  installing it
[02:32] <cyford> var/log/messages right
[02:32] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: hmm, I've never used that one before (I use java from the default repos myself).
[02:32] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: first let's look at /var/log/dpkg.log
[02:33] <cyford> i get alot of those little boxes  asking me to transmit an error to ubuntu too...   i never really investigated them
[02:33] <DarwinSurvivor> that one will show any updates/installs/etc that have been done
[02:33] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: i get a few for gnome myself, sometimes something as simple as a video driver can cause those
[02:34] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: take a look at /var/log/dpkg.log and see if you can find a date between now and your last reboot where some updates were installed (the file is in chronological order)
[02:34] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: ie. start at the bottom :)
[02:35] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: if the file doesn't go back far enough (no old entries), dkpg.log.1 should have it
[02:35] <cyford> lol   full  of my scrip entrees   and my benchmarks
[02:36] <cyford> no rrors  and nothing from today
[02:36] <cyford> errors*
[02:36] <cyford> i also do not see any reboot  logs
[02:36] <DarwinSurvivor> script entries...? there shouldn't be anything like that in the dpkg log
[02:36] <slipperynick> Hello, could someone recommend a good guide on mutt and mailing lists?
[02:37] <cyford> 2014-03-08 14:07:47 status installed libp11-2:amd64 0.2.8-3
[02:37] <cyford> 2014-03-08 14:07:52 configure pkcs11-data:amd64 0.7.4-1 <none>
[02:37] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: the dpkg.log file should ONLY have entries for package updates, installs and removals. other stuff (like reboots) will be in a separate log file
[02:37] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: do you know off hand when you last did a reboot (aside from today)?
[02:38] <cyford> not exactly
[02:38] <cyford>  im would guess about 8 days ago
[02:38] <cyford>   anywhere i can look?
[02:38] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: in a terminal, type "last | grep reboot"
[02:39] <DarwinSurvivor> note: that "|" is a pipe (button above the enter key)
[02:39] <cyford> null
[02:40] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: what about just "last reboot"?
[02:41] <cyford> wtmp begins Sat Mar 29 11:13:29 2014
[02:41] <cyford> ohh yeah  ,  pc from yesterday lol
[02:41] <DarwinSurvivor> huh? did you do a reboot yesterday?
[02:41] <cyford> that was my fault though
[02:42] <cyford> had a bright idea to learn scripting
[02:42] <Dapz_> hello my fellow linux users
[02:43] <cyford> hi Dapz_
[02:43] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: you mentioned that entries from your script were in the dpkg.log files, what is your script doing?
[02:43] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: unless the script is using apt-get or dpkg, it shouldn't be putting any entries in that file...
[02:43] <cyford> yes it does
[02:44] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: what does it do?
[02:44] <Dapz_> first time with an irc chat haha and ive been messing with computers for a couple of years , been learning code for the last 1
[02:44] <cyford>   it detects the os  and uses what ever the package manger is
[02:44] <cyford> i tested on my laptop once
[02:44] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: ok, then what?
[02:45] <henson>  ubottu: Thanks! Sorry I'm late with the reply. That's super helpful though
[02:45]  * henson is embaressed.
[02:45] <Beldar> Dapz_, This is ubuntu support, do you need this?
[02:46] <cyford> yesterday  i wrote something bad and it made like 100  proccesses on bench testing
[02:46] <cyford> so i had to reboot
[02:46] <cyford>   that wasnt part on my wekly issue ofc
[02:48] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: ok, but that won't appear in the dpkg.log file.
[02:48] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: what apt-get and dpkg commands is your script using?
[02:50] <Ceninant> hrm
[02:50] <Ceninant> Is there something to make installing netflix a bit easier?
[02:50] <nissim> hey can anyone help me out with a booting issue? http://bit.ly/1mDSNCC
[02:51] <Ceninant> "apt:netflix-desktop,wine-compholio?refresh=yep"
[02:51] <Ceninant> what does that mean? do I put that in terminal?
[02:53] <DarwinSurvivor> Ceninant: I'm pretty sure that info is out of date, almost everyone has switched to pipelight instead of netflix-desktop
[02:54] <psicologo_zulu> I'm learning CLI and the inner workings of linux slowly and also learning about hardware with an old laptop I'm updating. Just wanted to ask a few questions.
[02:54] <Ceninant> !netflix
[02:55] <Ceninant> I've been working off that
[02:55] <depoop> Netflix sucks on Linux
[02:55] <blocky> Ceninant: is netflix-desktop superseded by installing piperlight directly from ppa now?
[02:55] <DarwinSurvivor> Ceninant: yes, we saw that and it looks like nobody has updated ubottu
[02:55] <DarwinSurvivor> Ceninant: try http://fds-team.de/cms/pipelight-installation.html#section_1_1
[02:55] <blocky> netflix-desktop was always laggy for me but when i installed piperlight from ppa it works almost perfectly (some slight tearing during fast moving scenes)
[02:55] <DarwinSurvivor> Ceninant: note: you will also need to change your user agent (see section 3)
[02:57] <depoop> blocky: Netflix sucks on ubuntu
[02:57] <Beldar> depoop, This is not your soap box, that is an opinion and not valid here.
[02:58] <depoop> Hulu sucks to on ubuntu.
[03:00] <Ceninant> How do I get it to stop asking for my password everytime I enter a sudo command?
[03:01] <dw1> it doesnt ask again for a period of time but not sure where to configure that
[03:01] <dw1> Ceninant: http://www.howtogeek.com/116757/8-ways-to-tweak-and-configure-sudo-on-ubuntu/
[03:02] <dw1> Ceninant: prob not a good idea to set it to forever or no password
[03:02] <depoop> Ceninant: when you installed. Don't use a password. Goof
[03:03] <Beldar> Ceninant, no password is a bad idea, best to just get used to it, any OS should be set for a super use by a password.
[03:05] <cyford> im also having network issues ,  usually takes me an hour to fix it
[03:05] <dw1> Ceninant: so from terminal run sudo visudo and add something like Defaults        timestamp_timeout=10 under the other defaults
[03:05] <Ceninant> atm, my terminal isnt accepting my password
[03:06] <Beldar> Ceninant, You forget it or set a root password?
[03:07] <Ceninant> I see a cursor, type the password, but I don't get any asterisks to show I've entered anything.
[03:07] <Beldar> Ceninant, The password is blank
[03:07] <depoop> Beldar: that's your opinion on passwords. Opinions are like asshole, everybody has one. Ceninant asked a simple question about passwords.
[03:08] <dw1> Ceninant: terminal doesnt show asterisks
[03:08] <Beldar> just type it and hit enter
[03:09] <dw1> Ceninant: and if you dont know vi then do sudo gedit /etc/sudoers but be careful not to break the proper format :)
[03:09] <Ceninant> vi?
[03:10] <depoop> Beldar: stop giving your opinion.
[03:10] <dw1> Ceninant: its a terminal text editor that visudo runs to edit the sudoers sudo config file
[03:10] <cyford> u can use nano
[03:10] <dw1> Ceninant: its not really for noobs
[03:12] <cyford> Ceninant,
[03:12] <cyford> did u just boot it up?
[03:12] <cyford> usually when u get the screen the hd crashed
[03:13] <cyford>  try fsck
[03:13] <depoop> Hey
[03:15] <factotum> anyone know if installing prop. graphics drivers still messes with the plymouth boot screen?
[03:15] <cyford> Ceninant,   ir if you are in os  and in some script  try control c
[03:19] <Ceninant> hmm
[03:19] <cyford> DarwinSurvivor, the script i was working on is http://www.cyfordtechnologies.com/linux-servers/linux-self-optimizing-and-repair-script
[03:19] <Ceninant> looks like adding that command to sudoers somehow broke it
[03:20] <Ceninant> "parse error in etc/sudoers near line 12
[03:20] <Ceninant> no valid sudoers sources found, quitting
[03:20] <Ceninant> unable to initialize policy plugin
[03:20] <Tijuanense> wtf
[03:21] <Tijuanense> i just tried to install wine
[03:21] <Tijuanense> and it gave me this error
[03:21] <Tijuanense> http://i.imgur.com/eizzhMx.jpg
[03:21] <cyford> does it say ttl  on the screen?
[03:21] <cyford> Ceninant,
[03:22] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: that script does a fair bit of package maintenance (including stuff like glibc which is particularly finicky). I'm am almost positive that's what caused your problem
[03:22] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: when you replace glibc it can cause all sorts of library mismatches which would DEFINITELY affect performance (and stability)
[03:22] <cyford> hahaha
[03:22] <cyford> it   doesnt run everything
[03:23] <cyford>        installs sourve on openfiler
[03:23] <cyford>    but  i ran accross  some glitches  while making it
[03:23] <cyford>  and still   working on it
[03:23] <cyford>  mostly testing in centos  vm
[03:25] <DarwinSurvivor> cyford: I recommend keeping your script testing in a VM or something so it can't accidentally affect your production machine
[03:26] <cyford> yeah,
[03:26] <cyford>   it wasnt the script that broke it
[03:26] <dw1> Ceninant: hmm that could be bad if you now cant run sudo commands... might require reboot into repair mode to fix ... ouch:-/
[03:26] <cyford>      it was really cron
[03:26] <cyford> lol  i started the script small
[03:26] <cyford>        and cron works it twice a day
[03:26] <Tijuanense> why am I getting ubottu?
[03:26] <Tijuanense> btw
[03:26] <dw1> Ceninant: in repair mode as root do nano /etc/sudoers its easier than vi :)
[03:27] <Tijuanense> what does this error mean?
[03:27] <Tijuanense> http://i.imgur.com/eizzhMx.jpg
[03:27] <Tijuanense> it shows up everytime I try to run wine
[03:27] <cyford>      but then i started leaning an building more    and    now the menu  makes it hang in cron
[03:27] <phunyguy> Hey guys, can we try to keep questoins and answers on a single line?
[03:27] <Ceninant> how do i get into "repair mode"?
[03:27] <dw1> Ceninant: reboot and choose from the menu (Advanced) mode then another menu "drop to command prompt as root" or so
[03:27] <cyford> ok phunyguy
[03:28] <phunyguy> Tijuanense: you got ubottu as a friendly reminder for language ("wtf").
[03:28] <DarwinSurvivor> dw1: the sudoers file should NEVER, EVERE be edited like that! always use visudo
[03:28] <dw1> DarwinSurvivor: he doesnt know vi but yeah
[03:29] <DarwinSurvivor> Ceninant: if you cannot use sudo anymore you will likely need to recover the file with a rescue disk (or in single-user mode)
[03:29] <DarwinSurvivor> dw1: then you change the EDITOR variable and use nano
[03:29] <dw1> DarwinSurvivor: noobs helping noobs :P
[03:31] <Ceninant> well, lets just have nother go at this with a fresh install
[03:31] <Ceninant> and no password until i get netflix working
[03:31] <phunyguy> dw1: that's not nice :(
[03:32] <dw1> phunyguy: i dont view noob as a derogatory term
[03:32] <dw1> Ceninant: :(
[03:32] <phunyguy> ok.  (they might)
[03:32] <dw1> phunyguy: the first noob i was referring to was me :)
[03:33] <phunyguy> that doesn't really make it any better :(
[03:33] <dw1> Ceninant: easier to go repair mode and fix the file i imagine
[03:33] <Ceninant> first time i've used linux in about two years, not bad. i'm getting the hang now.
[03:33] <qin> dw1: default editor is nano, btw
[03:33] <phunyguy> let's just stay on topic here
[03:33] <Guegs> I'm considering using Ubuntu Server 12.04 when I build my home server. Does anybody have any experience with this? How is it?
[03:33] <dw1> qin: not for me.. 13.10
[03:33] <jrajav> Heya guys
[03:34] <phunyguy> Guegs: only one way to find out.   I love it, personally.  We are here if you have questions when you install it.
[03:34] <Beldar> !polling|Guegs
[03:34] <phunyguy> Guegs: there is also #ubuntu-server
[03:34] <jrajav> I have a retina Macbook Pro. I've heard that Ubuntu 14 has some better high-DPI support. Is this true?
[03:34] <Guegs> I've had it running on my server that is across the pond. So far I like it.
[03:34] <Beldar> Guegs, This is support is all, that questions is a poll.
[03:34] <jrajav> I just installed 13 here, but hopefully I can upgrade easily
[03:35] <Guegs> Oh, cool. Thanks phunyguy. Ahh. Apologies.
[03:35] <phunyguy> Guegs: what Beldar is trying to say, is this is the support channel.  We can chat about it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:35] <DarwinSurvivor> Ceninant: did you get sudo fixed yet?
[03:38] <Ceninant> DarwinSurvivor, I'm reinstalling.
[03:41] <davek> I'm having a bit of a strange issue with 13.10 and Intel Haswell graphics. Not my screenshot but I'm having this same issue: http://steamcommunity.com/id/telfoid/screenshots/?appid=233150
[03:41] <davek> That checkerboard pattern appears in a number of places where transparency should be (the only correlation I've seen so far is applications using libgl which is obviously pretty extensive).
[03:42] <DarwinSurvivor> Ceninant: we can fix the problem, but if it's a new install anyways, that might be faster
[03:43] <Ceninant> it was a new install anyway
[03:44] <Ceninant> someone donated their laptop, it's kinda low-spec, so i'm making it into a notetaking box.
[03:45] <`Fibz> how do you install vlc offline?
[03:47] <Beldar> `Fibz, some info, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[03:48] <`Fibz> the vlc website only links to apt repos
[03:48] <Beldar> Yes which can be used offline, read the link
[03:49] <`Fibz> what heading am i looking for?
[03:49] <Beldar> you need to pull what you need with a online computer
[03:52] <Beldar> `Fibz, Here is a deb link. http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/i386/vlc-dbg/download
[03:54] <`Fibz> thank you
[03:54] <Beldar> `Fibz, No prob, says precise I just looked at the vlc version is all.
[03:56] <Beldar> `Fibz, A dbg though I just realized, so not vlc itself, my bad.
[03:57] <`Fibz> i can find it, thanks for pointing me in the right direction
[03:57] <Beldar> `Fibz, Cool, just did not to waste your time.
[03:57] <Beldar> want to*
[04:01] <qin> `Fibz: to install vlc offline you have to download package from http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=vlc pray for dependencies to be satisfied and ask yourself why do you do it hard way...
[04:02] <`Fibz> there is such thing as build-dep
[04:03] <qin> oh apparently link was posted already...
[04:03] <DarwinSurvivor> !offline
[04:04] <DarwinSurvivor> `Fibz: use the above instructions to ensure that all dependencies are included
[04:09] <`Fibz> can i use aptoncd on a thumbdrive?
[04:10] <clemingtime> hey all. The power indicator is not showing up. it is installed, fresh install of ubuntu.
[04:11] <cyford> i guess the reboot won..  it forced me lol
[04:13] <davek> Does anyone happen to be using the Intel HD 4000 series at the moment?
[04:13] <clemingtime> gsettings list-recursively|grep settings-daemon returns that org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power active is TRUE
[04:13] <clemingtime> how?
[04:16] <john_rambo> This is my virtualbox install. I have mounted a shared folder. But I cant write to the folder. When I chown the folder the permissions reverts back to root
[04:17] <P0t4t0> because windows sux would be my ass
[04:17] <P0t4t0> *answer
[04:18] <`Fibz> awwww... after burning the disk with aptoncd i relize the offline systems are i386 and the online systems are amd64
[04:23]  * Beldar slips `Fibz a double espresso and some reading glasses.
[04:23] <`Fibz> yup
[04:24] <Beldar> ;)
[04:31] <cyford> hey guys ,  is any of this normal http://pastebin.com/3Zbjfrys
[04:34] <Guegs> What makes you think it is not normal
[04:38] <cyford> usually  i dont have all that
[04:42] <omar> Hi all.
[04:42] <cyford> hi omar
[04:43] <Strektl> Hello, I've got an odd issue I've never had before. 3 notification icons I usually access are not available when at the desktop, but only visible when the workspace switcher is up. The processes are still running fine, their icons are just not there.
[04:43] <omar> Sound is not working at all despite the volume indicator set almost at maximum.. What can I do? :/
[04:43] <Strektl> Although I can see them when the workspace switcher is up, I'm unable to click them. I'd rather not kill them as they have unsaved work in them, is there any way to retrieve them?
[04:43] <reisio> why can't you click them?
[04:44] <Strektl> It selects a given workspace when I do, the apps aren't brought back though
[04:44] <julian-delphiki> omar, and the correct sound output device is selected?
[04:45] <dw1> omar: plug in/turn on speakers
[04:45] <omar> dw1, I am not using speakers. I'm on a laptop.
[04:45] <julian-delphiki> omar, so, correct sound output device selected?
[04:46] <julian-delphiki> and what model laptop, omar
[04:46] <dw1> omar: run pavucontrol, in Output Devices when sound is playing is there movement in the bottom bar?
[04:46] <omar> julian-delphiki, dw1, thank you both. It's fixed now. :))
[04:47] <julian-delphiki> np
[04:47] <Strektl> reisio: maybe this image will better explain the issue http://i.imgur.com/bAC7fN2.png
[04:48] <Strektl> Notice they're there when the workspace switcher is active, but I'm unable to click them
[04:48] <Strektl> Clicking them just moves back to the desktop
[04:48] <Strektl> I'm just not sure how to bring them back into view
[04:49] <Beldar> Strektl, You been messing with the unity-tweak tool?
[04:49] <Strektl> No
[04:49] <Strektl> I just watched a film in VLC
[04:50] <Strektl> They were gone when I returned from fullscreen
[04:51] <Strektl> They're still running properly, I just need to force them to the foreground
[04:51] <Strektl> I'm not sure how I would go about doing that without their notification icons
[04:51] <Strektl> As that's how I always access them
[04:52] <Beldar> I have nautilus crash in 13.10 on occasion, those desktop icons are attached probably, all my desktop stuff files....etc disappear when mine crashes, just a guess though.
[04:52] <Strektl> When I open dash home, they're there as well.. Just blurred
[04:52] <Strektl> Maybe they're behind this task bar?
[04:52] <Strektl> it's strange
[04:52] <dw1> just run nautilus they should reappear
[04:53] <dw1> alt-f2
[04:54] <Strektl> Running Nautilus just opens my home folder
[04:54] <dw1> oh yeah i didnt read everything :p
[04:55] <Beldar> Strektl, click on desktop in home
[04:56] <dw1> there is a window focus bug i remember
[04:56] <Beldar> There is a on off switch, for showing that stuff on the desktop I would check it.
[04:57] <Strektl> http://i.imgur.com/P2YU4KH.png
[04:57] <Strektl> You see what I mean about that though
[04:57] <Strektl> It's like they're there but they're not
[04:57] <dw1> ever notice that clicking minimize or close doesnt actually close a window but goes through the window to whats underneath.. prob unrelated
[04:58] <Strektl> Is there something I can kill to try and refresh the notification bar without ending those processes?
[04:59] <dw1> killall gnome-panel then run it again ?
[05:00] <Strektl> I'm not running gnome-panel
[05:02] <Strektl> killed unity-panel-service but they're still missing
[05:04] <DrDigita_> anyone got any idea where the log file is for mariadb? my system won't start it... its been offline for like 5 months and was working fine then
[05:04] <DrDigita_> today i turn it back on and i cant get it to start and the error logs i think ive found are empty
[05:04] <Xtremeasure> hey guys i had a question concerning an eol upgrade i received a laptop running 11.04. would it be better to do a fresh install to switch to 12.04 or would a dist upgrade be fine?
[05:05] <DrDigita_> they are  /var/log/mysql.err and /var/log/mysql.log
[05:05] <Dylan> My CPU usage has a tendency to spike with just a small amount of programs open. Can anyone help me diagnose it?
[05:05] <dw1> Xtremeasure: never had problem with upgrade myself
[05:06] <DrDigita_> what programs... i mean you running virtual machines or CAD apps?
[05:06] <Xtremeasure> cool i dont have a flash drive on me so im thinking its the path i wanna take. the install of 11.04 is rather fresh and fully upgraded from what i can see
[05:07] <Xtremeasure> now am i going to have to go up the tree or can i just go from 11.04 to 12.04
[05:08] <dw1> Xtremeasure: just let the update manager do it or run sudo do-release-upgrade i guess - shouldnt be a question :)
[05:09] <Xtremeasure> sweet ill start it now ;)
[05:09] <xangua> Xtremeasure: you'll have to go thru every release, you can only jump from LTS to LTS
[05:09] <xangua> 11.04-11.10-12.04
[05:10] <Xtremeasure> ahh
[05:10] <Xtremeasure> lol this is gonna take a while hahah
[05:11] <Xtremeasure> well ive started im gonna sit here in case i run into any snags i know im going from eol to eol so hopefully you guys wont mind a question or two if it arises
[05:17] <Xtremeasure> one more question am i going to have to rebuild the sources.list on 11.10 and point it to the archives for the next upgrade to work ?
[05:23] <Svet_Roid> Hi, I'm trying to dual boot Windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I have installed it successfully, but it won't load into GRUB, it just goes straight to Windows 7.
[05:24] <RahulAN> Hii all
[05:24] <reisio> ohio
[05:24] <reisio> Svet_Roid: in what order did you install?
[05:24] <RahulAN> reisio: hey you are here :)
[05:24] <Svet_Roid> Windows 7 first.
[05:26] <rysh> Svet_Roid: I expperienced someething like that before with 12.04 ... I believe there is a little question in the partition part of the installer asking where to install grub
[05:26] <franknog> Svet_Roid: run "sudo file -s /dev/sda"
[05:27] <franknog> Svet_Roid: I suppose in a live CD environment
[05:27] <Svet_Roid> Well, after I installed it, it said that it couldn't detect drivers, and that I'd have to do it manually. Mouse wasn't there, and I couldn't find my way back to "OK" so I had to use the reset button on my PC to reboot. Live CD has been hell for me so far, but I'll try that.
[05:27] <franknog> Svet_Roid: what kind of PC are you using?
[05:28] <Svet_Roid> I built it.
[05:28] <franknog> Svet_Roid: cool, any obscure parts?
[05:29] <Svet_Roid> I don't think so, no. I do have a 3TB drive, but I worked around that by partitioning 500GB off of the 2TB windows partition
[05:30] <Xtremeasure> ive had a problem with wireless usb mouses once upon a time
[05:30] <Xtremeasure> but we are going back a few releases
[05:30] <Svet_Roid> franknog, what does "sudo file -s /dev/sda" do?
[05:32] <Svetroid> On mobile now so I can get to ubuntu
[05:32] <franknog> Svet_Roid: it should tell you if GRUB is installed on your main hard drive.
[05:33] <Svetroid> Ah ok, you'll have to paste that again quick.
[05:33] <Xtremeasure> sudo file -s /dev/sda
[05:33] <Svetroid> Thanks
[05:33] <Xtremeasure> np
[05:33] <llutz_> franknog: no it just tells if the MBR hold a valid boot-sgnature, not necessarily grub
[05:37] <Dylan> My CPU usage has a tendency to spike with just a small amount of programs open. Can anyone help me diagnose it?
[05:37] <dw1> isnt there a command to detect all os and update grub.. grub-update was it
[05:37] <lotus-blade> how com I am only showing that I have 8GB of ram when I have 16GB of Ram?
[05:37] <Svetroid> This is what I got: https://www.dropbox.com/s/m0jrtsvpjtd151w/IMG_20140331_243653121.jpg
[05:38] <reisio> lotus-blade: showing?
[05:39] <lotus-blade> when I look at my system information it only shows 8gig or ram
[05:40] <dw1> Svetroid: sudo update-grub ?
[05:40] <Svetroid> Cannot find a device for / (is /Dev mounted?).
[05:41] <Svetroid> ./dev
[05:42] <rww> lotus-blade: check your motherboard/computer manual, see how many GB of RAM it supports
[05:42] <dw1> Svetroid: i think in a similar situation i used a windows multi-boot loader then booted and ran update-grub
[05:43] <Xtremeasure> did you mount the hardrive?
[05:43] <Svetroid> I think I did. How do I check?
[05:43] <franknog> mount
[05:43] <franknog> lsblk
[05:43] <rysh> Svetroid: df -h
[05:44] <dw1> Svetroid: think i used https://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/
[05:45] <Svetroid> It says, among other things, udev is mounted on /dev
[05:45] <rysh> Svetroid: You know which partition Ubuntu is installed? That one should shown in these commands
[05:46] <Xtremeasure> lsblk should show look for the 500g partition you made and check for / under mountpoint
[05:47] <Svetroid> Oh lsblk
[05:47] <Svetroid> I did df -h
[05:47] <lotus-blade> rww: it supports 32gig and I have 16 gig installed
[05:48] <rysh> Svetroid: which partition Ubuntu is installed?
[05:48] <Svetroid> https://www.dropbox.com/s/1zgregzqn8aie88/IMG_20140331_244754333.jpg
[05:49] <Svetroid> 5 is root, 6 is swap, 7 is home
[05:49] <Genitrust> how can i test if my router is blocking port 22 connections to another machine?
[05:50] <Xtremeasure> ok well the 5 is looking like what ever you booted from live
[05:50] <dw1> Genitrust: why would it..
[05:50] <iasj> Hi, anyone here have any script to translate texts?
[05:50] <dw1> Genitrust: connect to a known open 22 i guess
[05:50] <Genitrust> dw1, incase someone shut that off. by "my router" i should say, "this office place's router"
[05:51] <Svetroid> I am 200% sure I chose the correct directories during installation
[05:51] <Genitrust> dw1 i'm just looking to eliminate that possibility as i troubleshoot, extra questions don't help mate :P
[05:52] <dw1> Genitrust: try ubuntu.com 22
[05:52] <rysh> Svetroid: only 5GB for root? ...
[05:52] <Genitrust> dw1 ooo ty
[05:52] <Xtremeasure> ok so try "sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt
[05:52] <Xtremeasure> rysh: hes booted live
[05:52] <Svetroid> That's what the thing told me to do that I was reading
[05:52] <Svetroid> I did 16gb actually
[05:52] <Genitrust> dw1, ok as expected, i got "permission denied" as i tried ssh ubuntu.com ... hehe
[05:52] <Genitrust> welp, looks like the router would allow it
[05:53] <Genitrust> i'm trying to ssh into a debian machine here locally ... i get this:
[05:53] <Genitrust> http://paste.debian.net/hidden/8ef08562/
[05:53] <dw1> Genitrust: telnet might show more stuff
[05:53] <Svetroid> Said to do at least your amount of ram for root, so I did 16gn, but I am on live cs ATM yeah
[05:53] <Svetroid> CD*
[05:53] <Genitrust> ...after waiting, i get "connection closed ... lost connection" kinda message
[05:53] <Xtremeasure> so you said you installed to a 500gb partition correct?
[05:53] <Genitrust> telnet gives me "connection refused"
[05:53] <Svetroid> Yes
[05:53] <dw1> Genitrust: telnet ubuntu.com 22
[05:53] <Xtremeasure> ok from you picture thats sda7
[05:54] <Svetroid> 7 is on /mnt now
[05:54] <Xtremeasure> k cool
[05:54] <Svetroid> And now?
[05:55] <Xtremeasure> gimme a sec im a little slower then some of the others here ;)
[05:55] <dw1> Genitrust: should say connected.. escape character.. SSH-OpneSSH, Debian Ubuntu etc etc
[05:55] <Svetroid> Take your time :p
[05:56] <Genitrust> dw1 damn =\
[05:56] <Tijuanense> niggers
[05:56] <Tijuanense> god damn
[05:56] <Genitrust> dw1, ahh, is this good?
[05:56] <Genitrust> http://paste.debian.net/hidden/231fffbd/
[05:57] <RahulAN> i installed twm
[05:57] <dw1> Genitrust: yep
[05:57] <RahulAN> how to start twm?
[05:57] <Xtremeasure> Svetroid: if i send you a link will you be able to open it ?
[05:57] <Svetroid> Sure
[05:57] <Tijuanense> why is it that I get this error message when trying to update ubuntu?
[05:57] <Tijuanense> http://i.imgur.com/eizzhMx.jpg
[05:57] <Xtremeasure> youve allready co,pleted step one
[05:57] <Xtremeasure> completed*
[05:57] <dw1> Genitrust: so just need to fix remote server config user/pass
[05:57] <Xtremeasure> http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd#.UzkDaRWToUM
[05:57] <Xtremeasure> ;)
[05:58] <Ben64> !ops
[05:58] <dw1> Genitrust: or set up a ssh key
[05:58] <jpds> Ben64: Hi,
[05:58] <rww> Yes hello.
[05:58] <jpds> rww: Anything new?
[05:58] <Genitrust> dw1 where do i fix the remote server config user/pass ?
[05:58] <rww> oh, Mr. Tijuanense
[05:58] <Genitrust> i figured the default behavior would allow me to log in as anyone, given that i knew the password... i was wrong -.-
[05:59] <dw1> Genitrust: it connects and shows a msg like ubuntu.com right ?
[05:59] <linux_unix-10> hi
[05:59] <dw1> Genitrust: the user needs to have a shell listed in /etc/passwd
[05:59] <saptech> greetings earthlings
[05:59] <RahulAN> here as i write twm it is saying twm:  unable to find any unmanaged video screens.
[05:59] <Genitrust> dw1 it shows the message here: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/231fffbd/
[06:00] <linux_unix-10> ca someone please help me with this? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7183394/            Also, sudo apt-get update does not work.
[06:00] <dw1> Genitrust: yea cool
[06:00] <Genitrust> dw1 i'm not too familiar with telnet so i have no idea what that means. but i'm guessing it was good
[06:00] <jesus_smasher> Ok, so i just update the system and now when i boot instead of going to the login screen its just a black screen with a blinking curser in the top left
[06:00] <Genitrust> :D
[06:00] <Svetroid> Xtremeasure, I get  special device devpts does not exist on 2nd step
[06:00] <dw1> Genitrust: we're just looking if it accepts the connection really
[06:01] <Genitrust> ah ok
[06:01] <Genitrust> that makes sense
[06:01] <dw1> Genitrust: in /etc/passwd find the line with the user name and at the end it shouldnt say /bin/false but /bin/bash
[06:01] <Vinicius> hello, anyone care to help me? I have a live usb boot that goes to black screen as soon as I press "try ubuntu"
[06:01] <dw1> Genitrust: on server machine
[06:01] <Xtremeasure> did you type that out correctly there should be a / there
[06:02] <Vinicius> I have a intel HD graphics, and I've already tried what nixiepixel said
[06:02] <Xtremeasure> /dev/pts
[06:02] <jesus_smasher> Ok, so i just update the system and now when i boot instead of going to the login screen its just a black screen with a blinking curser in the top left anyone know how to deal with this stuff? i tried the nomodeset... i believe it has something to with the graphix or xorg????
[06:02] <Genitrust> ahh dw1 .... at the end of the user it does say /bin/bash, however... at the end of the "sshd" user, it says "/some/path/nologin"
[06:02] <Svetroid> I did that xtremeasure
[06:02] <RahulAN> how to do it? twm:  unable to find any unmanaged video screens.
[06:02] <dw1> Genitrust: thats ok
[06:02] <Xtremeasure> ok lemme do some looking
[06:02] <Vinicius> jesus_smasher I ave same problem as you but without blinking cursor
[06:02] <dw1> Genitrust: so do ssh user@ip
[06:03] <dw1> Genitrust: from client
[06:03] <jesus_smasher> Vinicius, what was your fix?
[06:03] <Genitrust> dw1 i did, and i get: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/7c5d76ad/
[06:03] <Vinicius> jesus_smasher I'm asking the same question
[06:03] <jesus_smasher> i know this happened to me a few times before i forget how i fixed it
[06:03] <lickalott> how long have you waited jesus_smasher and Vinicius ?
[06:03] <jesus_smasher> a bit
[06:03] <Vinicius> lickalott enought to know that there's a problem
[06:03] <dw1> Genitrust: Roaming not allowed by server may be a clue
[06:04] <lickalott> hit alt+F1, can you get to a command line
[06:04] <Vinicius> I have a UEFI windows 8 boot that I think it's causing it
[06:04] <Vinicius> ok
[06:04] <lickalott> ahhh....si
[06:04] <Vinicius> Let me try
[06:04] <lickalott> UEFI = problems
[06:05] <Vinicius> even with live cd?
[06:05] <jesus_smasher> Vinicius, did you try this "mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old"  then just reset
[06:05] <Genitrust> man this is so annoying, i scp'd a file last night -.-
[06:05] <Vinicius> I thought it would cause problems after installing
[06:05] <Genitrust> the ONLY thing i changed... was installing some libqt4 stuff via apt-get
[06:05] <Genitrust> (on the debian machine)
[06:05] <jesus_smasher> ya bloody hate UEFI
[06:05] <lickalott> iirc it's all the time
[06:05] <dw1> Genitrust: or bad keys
[06:05] <saptech> RahulAN, did you try command startx?
[06:05] <Vinicius> I'll try alt f1 brb
[06:05] <RahulAN> saptech: no
[06:05] <Genitrust> dw1, ok, i think i'll just delete all keys @.@
[06:06] <lickalott> Does anyone here have any experience with nzbget?
[06:06] <RahulAN> saptech: i want to switch to twm, currently i am on ubuntu 12.10
[06:06] <Xtremeasure> Svetroid: i havent forgot about yah im looking into it like i said im slower then most this doesnt come off the top of my head i go through support articles to answer questions haha
[06:07] <RahulAN> saptech: it is also saying twm:  another window manager is already running. on screen 0?
[06:07] <Svetroid> It's good
[06:07] <saptech> RahulAN, you want to switch consoles and then run twm
[06:07] <saptech> hmmm
[06:07] <Genitrust> eh screw it... i'm gunna just install openssh-server on this ubuntu machine... and copy the file the OTHER way -.-
[06:07] <Svetroid> Wonder if I could just skip it? Probably shouldn't.
[06:08] <RahulAN> saptech: i ran twm it says :twm:  another window manager is already running. on screen 0? and twm:  unable to find any unmanaged video screens
[06:08] <rysh> Xtremeasure: Does Ubuntu live CD's not have an rescue option in the boot menu?
[06:08] <Svetroid> There is an option for check for errors or whatever it is
[06:08] <saptech> RahulAN, I've seen that before but can't remember what to do about anymore
[06:08] <Dylan> My CPU usage has a tendency to spike with just a small amount of programs open. Can anyone help me diagnose it?
[06:08] <Xtremeasure> rysh: im not sure. but even still if he cant mount /dev/pts grub wont be able to detect what it needs to and will break his windows install
[06:09] <Svetroid> Yeah don't want that
[06:09] <dw1> Genitrust: seems some possible conflict between type 1 and 2 mentioned in the log too
[06:09] <saptech> RahulAN, google search it
[06:09] <dw1> Genitrust: whatever that means :P some google result mentioned it might be a problem
[06:09] <Genitrust> ya, i saw that google result
[06:09] <Genitrust> so dumb -.-
[06:10] <Genitrust> ESPECIALLY since last night i connected fine
[06:10] <Genitrust> either way, i'm being adamant about this: the problem is DEBIAN damn it
[06:10] <rysh> Xtremeasure: I think the steps shown in that support article will be done automatically by the installer when choosing the rescue option ... and the user get dropped in a chrooted environment
[06:11] <Svetroid> I see /dev/pts when I go to the folder directory
[06:11] <Xtremeasure> svet you still in irc on mobile?
[06:11] <Svetroid> Yes
[06:11] <jesus_smasher> Ok, so i just update the system and now when i boot instead of going to the login screen its just a black screen with a blinking curser in the top left anyone know how to deal with this stuff? i tried the nomodeset... i believe it has something to with the graphix or xorg????
[06:13]  * Genitrust will brb
[06:15] <Svetroid> Z
[06:15] <Svetroid> xtremeasure I got it
[06:15] <Xtremeasure> oh cool haha
[06:15] <Xtremeasure> what was the issue?
[06:17] <Svetroid> Forgot && <_>
[06:17] <lotus-blade> ok I have 4 banks for my ram each has a 4gig ddr3 stick in it.  I do a lshw and I see all 4 banks with 4gigs.  I check sysinfo and it says I only have 8gigs.  any ideas?
[06:17] <Svetroid> Very silly
[06:17] <Svetroid> Time to reboot
[06:18] <john_rambo> I made a wrong entry in /etc/fstab. Now when I try to edit and save the file with nano using recovery mode it says readonly filesystem
[06:18] <VInicius> hello
[06:18] <VInicius> its me again
[06:18] <VInicius> I just recorder with my cellphone the problem that I have
[06:18] <VInicius> can I post a youtube link video here?
[06:19] <Svetroid> Xtremeasure boots into windows
[06:19] <Xtremeasure> hmmm
[06:19] <VInicius> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9vZAJWOtAQ
[06:19] <Svetroid> I'll try the live CD repair thing, see what it does
[06:20] <Xtremeasure> Svetroid: do that while i look into this more
[06:20] <Svetroid> Ok
[06:20] <VInicius> \NICK Vinicius
[06:21] <VinnyAtaide> Can someone help me?
[06:22] <Svetroid> I don't get why grub didn't do its thing automatically, with the installer
[06:23] <lickalott> that depends VinnyAtaide
[06:23] <Xtremeasure> im kind of at a loss here to alot of what is is the opposite haha ubuntu but no windows
[06:23] <VinnyAtaide> I've just posted a video
[06:23] <VinnyAtaide> did you see my video?
[06:24] <lickalott> oh...didn't see that you changed your nick.
[06:24] <lickalott> wait 1
[06:24] <Svetroid> Live CD is "check disc for defects". Assuming that means the install disc, not the partition. Either way, no defects found
[06:25] <lickalott> VinnyAtaide, are you using a USB or a CD?
[06:25] <VinnyAtaide> USB
[06:26] <Svetroid> When you say "Ubuntu installation", you mean root, right?
[06:26] <rysh> Svetroid: yes
[06:26] <VinnyAtaide> lickalott USB
[06:28] <lickalott> gotcha.   still reading
[06:29] <lickalott> VinnyAtaide, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1975128
[06:29] <VinnyAtaide> lickalott thanks I'll check it out
[06:29] <SaveTheRobots> hi, i have a box with 8 externally facing public IP addresses, and several LXC containers connected to a bridge (lxcbr)... atm, all outgoing traffic from all containers is sent from the hosts main ip address (eg 12.2.2.1), how do i change which external ip address (say i want to use 12.2.2.3 instead)) is used based on which container is sending the data (e.g. 10.0.3.1-10.0.3.10)
[06:30] <lickalott> SaveTheRobots, Blue
[06:30] <Xtremeasure> Svetroid: do me a favor reboot but hold shift while your booting if grub is installed it should bring up the menu
[06:30] <Svetroid> Tried doing it again xtremeasure. I get devpts doesn't exist again even with correct syntax
[06:30] <Svetroid> Ok
[06:30] <Svetroid> Do I need to unmount sda5
[06:31] <Xtremeasure> if your running live when you hit restart or shut down it should unmount everything itself
[06:31] <Svetroid> Ah kk
[06:31] <Xtremeasure> you have to hold shift before the windows splash
[06:32] <Svetroid> Saw something for a split second then booted to windows
[06:32] <Xtremeasure> lol
[06:33] <Svetroid> Dual booting OS's should be easier :(
[06:33] <Xtremeasure> it usually is
[06:34] <VinnyAtaide> lickalott what is the alternate installatioin cd?
[06:34] <Xtremeasure> mine went off without a hitch haha
[06:34] <Svetroid> I'll try it with CD in
[06:34] <Xtremeasure> you could always try a reinstall
[06:34] <Svetroid> Also isn't it c for grub?
[06:35] <Xtremeasure> it should be shift on boot
[06:35] <lickalott> VinnyAtaide, what do you mean?
[06:35]  * lickalott enjoys an afternoon coffee much more than a morning one.
[06:35] <Svetroid> I pressed c a while ago and got grub terminal where I could input commands
[06:35] <Svetroid> Prob not same thing
[06:36] <Xtremeasure> with or without the cd in
[06:36] <Svetroid> Forget
[06:36] <lickalott> you can also peruse through this VinnyAtaide.. may not help directly but there is some good troubleshooting material in there.
[06:36] <Svetroid> I'll try that link a second time
[06:36] <Svetroid> Sec
[06:37] <VinnyAtaide> the tutoriall said "you will want to install with the alternate installation cd and after you install the system, make sure that the first boot option is selected"
[06:37] <VinnyAtaide> ok man
[06:37] <linux_unix-10> someone please help me with this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7183394/                                                                                                                        Also, sudo apt-get update does not work.
[06:38] <Beldar> linux_unix-10, music?
[06:38] <Svetroid> I get special device devpts doesn't exist even with correct syntax
[06:38] <owen1> what text-based tool can i use to view/change daemons? rcconf?
[06:38] <lickalott> I wouldn't worry about that VinnyAtaide, I think it's just a light or gdm thing
[06:39] <lickalott> what are the specs on your right?
[06:39] <Xtremeasure> someone linked a toll they had used  a while ago
[06:39] <Xtremeasure> tool
[06:39] <Xtremeasure> dw1: you still here
[06:40] <lickalott> followed by a nice fresh pinch of cope...... nothing better!
[06:40] <Xtremeasure> he said he a problem like yours svet
[06:40] <cfhowlett> linux_unix-10, there is no package called "music"
[06:41] <dw1> Xtremeasure: I used EasyBCD to set up multi-boot in windows then booted ubuntu and ran update-grub
[06:41] <Xtremeasure> Svetroid did you see that
[06:42] <Svetroid> dw1 do I use GRUB by default after easybcd?
[06:42] <Xtremeasure> yes
[06:42] <dw1> Svetroid: if you run update-grub it replaces it yeah
[06:42] <Svetroid> Like I can get rid of easybcs
[06:42] <Svetroid> D
[06:42] <Svetroid> Oh ok
[06:42] <cfhowlett> dw1, this sounds like a  windows / wubi installation - not advisable
[06:43] <Xtremeasure> cfhowlett: hes just using it for a one time boot to ubuntu
[06:43] <dw1> awesome things are never advisable :P
[06:43] <PatBateman> hi
[06:43] <Svetroid> Oh wait xtremeasure
[06:43] <Xtremeasure> ?
[06:43] <Svetroid> Mobile doesn't show all of the code for the website you linked
[06:43] <Svetroid> I'll try it again on my PC sec
[06:43] <Xtremeasure> kk
[06:43] <PatBateman> i have 403 and 404 errors on my local dev websites after installing latest apache2 updated, any idea what to do?
[06:44] <lickalott> cfhowlett, do you have any experience with nzbget?
[06:44] <Svetroid> Rebooting
[06:44] <Xtremeasure> kk
[06:44] <cfhowlett> lickalott, none
[06:45]  * lickalott beats head against keyboard
[06:48] <Svetroid> Boots into windows even though that second time the site you linked worked without errors
[06:48] <Svetroid> Shift still doesn't work
[06:48] <Svetroid> How do I use EasyBCD?
[06:49] <dw1> Svetroid: https://neosmart.net/Download/Register/1 click Download (dont need to Like or enter anything) and run it?  as i recall it was pretty easy
[06:50] <Svetroid> Update-grub appeared to work when I typed it into the terminal but
[06:50] <Svetroid> Run it from windows or live CD?
[06:50] <dw1> Svetroid: windows
[06:51] <dw1> Svetroid: I think update-grub has to be run not from livecd
[06:51] <Svetroid> I won't lose data or anything, right?
[06:51] <cfhowlett> !grub
[06:51] <Svetroid> And oh
[06:51] <dw1> Svetroid: its just a bootloader
[06:51] <k1l_> you need to chroot into your install to run update-grub
[06:51] <Svetroid> I did k1l_
[06:51] <Svetroid> But I guess I didbt
[06:51] <Svetroid> Didnt
[06:53] <Svetroid> What now?
[06:53] <Zederia> hello everyone, does anyone know how to make this install on kernal 3.2.0-60? http://im.qq.com/qq/linux/download.shtml
[06:54] <cfhowlett> !cn|Zederia,
[06:54] <Zederia> (because I don't know off-hand what version of xubuntu I have
[06:54] <Guest71284> hi i am using ubuntu 12.04, problem is that i cant see my flash drive
[06:54] <Zederia> cfhowlett, I am not chinese..
[06:54] <cfhowlett> !kylin | Zederia also
[06:54] <cfhowlett> Zederia, oh.  ok.   nevermind
[06:55] <Zederia> cfhowlett, I have friendswho use QQ, I m tryig to use it as well
[06:55] <Svetroid> dw1
[06:55] <cfhowlett> Zederia, latest package is 4 years old.  and it was only beta 1.  think hard.
[06:55] <Guest71284> hi i am using ubuntu 12.04, problem is that i cant see my flash drive
[06:55] <k1l_> Zederia: first: this channel is english based, most of us cant read chinese. second: dont run IRC as root user
[06:55] <dw1> Svetroid: you run it and add your different OSs
[06:55] <Svetroid> I don't get how
[06:56] <Svetroid> All it shows is w7
[06:56] <k1l_> Svetroid: boot up a live cd please (or a usb stick) and come back here
[06:56] <rww> Pidgin has a QQ module, doesn't it?
[06:56] <Guest71284> hi i am using ubuntu 12.04, problem is that i cant see my flash drive
[06:56] <Beldar> !patience|Guest71284
[06:56] <Svetroid> k1l_ I don't think you've been paying attention
[06:57] <Zederia> k1l_: First, I'm well aware this channel is english. second, where I run IRC is my choice, no?
[06:57] <cfhowlett> rww, not sure but there is definitely qq support in #ubuntu-kylin
[06:57] <dw1> Svetroid: i may have used the NeoGrub option
[06:57] <cfhowlett> Zederia, http://erik.hebestreit-online.de/2012/10/qq-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[06:57] <rww> cfhowlett: it and #ubuntukylin don't exist
[06:57] <Guest71284> Beldar, ok
[06:57] <k1l_> Svetroid: i was afk some time. and i dont see the real problem behind your issue so far
[06:57] <cfhowlett> !kylin|rww,
[06:58] <rww> !-cfhowlett
[06:58] <rww> erm
[06:58] <rww> !-kylin
[06:58] <Svetroid> dw1 and xtremeasure are doing just fine
[06:58] <rww> Pretty sure I know what it says :)
[06:58] <dw1> k1l_ seems to know the right way tho :P
[06:58] <Svetroid> Do I just reboot once I hit install, dw1?
[06:59] <dw1> Svetroid: yes sir
[06:59] <dw1> Svetroid: after adding all OSs
[06:59] <Svetroid> Should be first entry I suppose
[06:59] <Svetroid> Erm
[06:59] <Svetroid> Grub 2?
[07:00] <k1l_> Svetroid: yes, for some years ubuntu switched from grub1 to grub2
[07:00] <dw1> Svetroid: i dont remember exactly what settings i used i just found the linux partition and was able to boot it
[07:00] <dw1> Svetroid: think i may have use the NeoGrub option
[07:00] <dw1> under the OS tabs its the last one
[07:01] <linux_unix-10> cfhowlett, its compiled from source
[07:01] <dw1> Svetroid: (looking at a youtube video on the program:)
[07:01] <Guest71284> i am waiting patiently
[07:01] <Zederia> cfhowlett, Thak you
[07:01] <Zederia> thank*
[07:01] <linux_unix-10> cfhowlett, its compiled from source
[07:01] <Svetroid> ATM I have neogrub bler and w7
[07:02] <dw1> Svetroid: good luck, dont die
[07:02] <linux_unix-10> anyway, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7183394/ indicates a possibly corrupted file, can't do anything except update
[07:02] <Svetroid> This is confusing lol
[07:03] <Svetroid> Do I make drive BOOT for the bler?
[07:03] <dw1> Svetroid: ? you should get a choice windows or linux
[07:03] <Guest71284> #ubuntu
[07:03] <dw1> Svetroid: if its set up right
[07:03] <Svetroid> I'm still in the program
[07:04] <dw1> Svetroid: might want ot disable that 'skip the boot menu' option
[07:05] <Svetroid> Under adv settings with neogrub bler selected, the 'drive' parameter
[07:05] <robert[con]> I got my Nexus 7 (2013) today, going to install Ubuntu Touch on it later this week when I have a couple of hours on my hands
[07:05] <Beldar> !touch | robert[con]
[07:05] <k1l_> Guest71284: show a "dmesg |tail -n 50" after 10sec. after you put the flash drive into the usb port
[07:06] <robert[con]> Beldar: yes
[07:06] <dw1> Svetroid: find your linux partition there
[07:06] <k1l_> Guest71284: and put that into a pastebin
[07:06] <Svetroid> There's just C, D, E, and boot
[07:06] <robert[con]> anyone else in here working with Touch?
[07:06] <k1l_> robert[con]: see #ubuntu-touch for that specific questions
[07:06] <dw1> Svetroid: or under the Linux tab.. one of the 2
[07:06] <Beldar> robert[con] This is not the touch channel.
[07:07] <Svetroid> dw1 are you in add new entry?
[07:07] <robert[con]> fair enough
[07:07] <tommy__> hi
[07:07] <Zederia> Well, that pidgin extention works perfectly :)
[07:07] <dw1> Svetroid: maybe just stick to the Linux menu and choose the partition there dunno
[07:08] <dw1> Svetroid: as long as you choose the right partition it should work
[07:08] <Svetroid> K I'm just gonna reboot and see what happens
[07:08] <dw1> Svetroid: write to MBR first
[07:08] <Svetroid> Oh k
[07:08] <dw1> Svetroid: and make sure windows is in there for sure :)
[07:08] <Zederia> k1l_, I figured linking it was easier than trying to explain it, most people don't know what QQ is
[07:08] <Svetroid> Do I install BCD
[07:08] <dw1> Svetroid: yup
[07:08] <dw1> Svetroid: i think
[07:08] <Svetroid> Partition 1?
[07:09] <k1l_> Zederia: most people in here cant read chinese :)
[07:09] <Beldar> why has no one asked for the boot script in this?
[07:09] <Svetroid> That's the windows 100mb partition
[07:09] <dw1> Svetroid: in View Settings it should show Windows and Linux
[07:09] <dw1> Svetroid: 2 entries
[07:09] <Zederia> k1l_, And ho man peopledo you thik if I just said Q would understand whatI meant?
[07:09] <k1l_> Beldar: i tried to get some informations but the user doesnt want to
[07:09] <Zederia> QQ*
[07:10] <Beldar> k1l_, Yeah I saw that, oh well.
[07:10] <Svetroid> Dw1 I have 3, neogrub bler is there
[07:10] <dw1> Svetroid: should be fine
[07:10] <dw1> Svetroid: the more the merrier :P
[07:10] <Svetroid> Do you have teamviewer? D;
[07:10] <Zederia> k1l_, On a side note it works fine, so I'm happy I get to keep in touchwithmy chinesefriends
[07:10] <dw1> Svetroid: could do
[07:23] <PatBateman> what is this error: client denied by server configuration
[07:23] <PatBateman> only my css,js, and image files got 403 error
[07:24] <PatBateman> of course I've set permissions on them
[07:30] <eO1> hello
[07:30] <eO1> in ubuntu13.10 i was trying to add .desktop file for eclipse but it not appear in unity launacher menu
[07:30] <eO1> what i also should do?
[07:31] <reisio> eO1: hrmm?
[07:31] <eO1> hrmm?
[07:32] <k1l_> eO1: what about you start eclipse, then right click on the launchericon and choose: keep in launcher?
[07:32] <cristian_c> Hi
[07:32] <reisio> hi cristian
[07:33] <cristian_c> I'm trying to mount my micro-sd card
[07:33] <cristian_c> but in dmesg I get: FAT-fs (sdc1): error, invalid access to FAT
[07:33] <cristian_c> FAT-fs (sdc1): Filesystem has been set read-only
[07:33] <cristian_c> How can I solve this?
[07:33] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[07:34] <cristian_c> reisio, hi
[07:34] <reisio> cristian_c: solve what?
[07:34] <cristian_c> reisio, errors
[07:34] <reisio> cristian_c: what're you trying to do?
[07:35] <k1l_> cristian_c: can you put tha last 20lines into a pastebin from that dmesg?
[07:35] <cristian_c> reisio, I've to mount the micro-sd card
[07:35] <reisio> cristian_c: what's stopping you?
[07:35] <cristian_c> k1l_, ok
[07:35] <cristian_c> reisio, errors
[07:35] <reisio> cristian_c: you can't read the contents of the card?
[07:36] <eO1> k1l_, not work, i was creating .desktop file but it not detect it
[07:37] <cristian_c> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/aigBarnD
[07:37] <cristian_c> reisio, no, it's not mounted
[07:38] <Ben64> cristian_c: try to use fsck, but its possible the card or filesystem is dead
[07:39] <cristian_c> Ben64, how can I fix in safety?
[07:40] <cristian_c> Ben64, what is the exact commando to type?
[07:40] <cristian_c> *command
[07:40] <Ben64> fsck.vfat /path/to/device
[07:40] <Ben64> read the help or man page for more options
[07:41] <reisio> cristian_c: how'd you try to mount it?
[07:42] <cristian_c> Ben64, I tried this command long time ago (for another reason) and I think is was wrong, because terminal made multiple questions
[07:42] <cristian_c> (y/n9 or similar
[07:42] <cristian_c> *)
[07:42] <cristian_c> reisio, connecting to the pc (via card reader)
[07:42] <Ben64> yes, it can ask you questions. there is no magic command to fix everything
[07:43] <reisio> cristian_c: and you can't view it in the file manager afterwards?
[07:43] <cristian_c> Ben64, hours and hours
[07:43] <cristian_c> every second
[07:43] <cristian_c> reisio, no
[07:45] <cristian_c> Ben64, always the same question
[07:45] <cristian_c> I'd like to prevent that experience that I've never solved
[07:45] <piyush> hi
[07:46] <cristian_c> Ben64, can I use a specific syntax?
[07:47] <Ben64> cristian_c: not sure what you mean
[07:49] <cristian_c> Ben64, if i can use a fsck particular synatx for the command
[07:49] <cristian_c> *syntax
[07:56] <cristian_c> Ben64, any ideas?
[08:03] <cristian_c> reisio, any ideas?
[08:04] <reisio> cristian_c: what does lsblk -f say? What does 'mount' say?
[08:04] <cristian_c> reisio, now I try with mount command
[08:08] <cristian_c> reisio, http://pastebin.com/BzGbLEZL
[08:08] <akbat> привет, кто-то по samba в xubuntu 12.04 помочь может?
[08:08] <DJones> !ru | akbat
[08:09] <reisio> cristian_c: lsblk -f
[08:10] <cristian_c> reisio, http://pastebin.com/kkvDRgnh
[08:13] <reisio> cristian_c: sudo mkdir /mnt/foo; sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/foo; ls /mnt/foo/
[08:13] <cristian_c> ok
[08:14] <cristian_c> reisio, mount: /dev/sdc1: unable to read the superblock
[08:15] <reisio> probably a hardware issue
[08:16] <reisio> but if you have another OS, you can use it to rule that out (or confirm)
[08:20] <cristian_c> reisio, it seems a filesystem issue
[08:20] <cristian_c> reisio, with an other os I find similar issues
[08:21] <cristian_c> reisio, how can I check it?
[08:22] <KyouReeUs4nfo> cristian_c: is it disabled/locked in BIOS?
[08:22] <reisio> cristian_c: if it doesn't work with multiple OSes, that just makes it more likely it's a hardware failure
[08:23] <reisio> if it has important data on it that you don't have a copy of (paradoxically), then try using ddrescue on it
[08:23] <brothersome> cristian_c, does puppylinux have the same issue?
[08:24] <reisio> ...
[08:25] <cristian_c> KyleYankan, I don't understand. What can be disabled/locked in bios?
[08:25] <KyouReeUs4nfo> cristian_c: your card reader ??
[08:26] <cristian_c> reisio, but, formerly, it happened that a storage device was not mounted in multiple OSes. But there isn't an hardware failure
[08:26] <cristian_c> but a filesystem failure
[08:27] <cristian_c> reisio, I'll try to read about ddrescue
[08:27] <cristian_c> brothersome, I don't use puppylinux
[08:27] <reisio> cristian_c: then check dosfstools for an fsck
[08:27] <cristian_c> KyouReeUs4nfo, card reader is working :)
[08:28] <brothersome> cristian_c, SDcards can be hopeless, I had a lot of trouble
[08:28] <reisio> cristian_c: that's very sensible, puppy is a silly distro
[08:28] <reisio> fat is a terrible old FS, as well
[08:28] <cristian_c> reisio, ah, but I don't know how to use dosfstools :)
[08:28] <cristian_c> brothersome, ok, but I don't know how to check it
[08:28] <KyouReeUs4nfo> cristian_c: good to know :), glad that is out of the way.
[08:28] <reisio> cristian_c: it should really just be sudo fsck /dev/sdc1
 fat is a terrible old FS, as well
[08:29] <cristian_c> I understand
[08:29] <cristian_c> reisio, ok, but I don't know exactly how to use it in safety
[08:29] <cristian_c> fsck
[08:29] <reisio> you can't access the FS right now, so there's no much to lose
[08:30] <cristian_c> ?
[08:30] <cristian_c> ok
[08:30] <cristian_c> sorry
[08:30] <cristian_c> :D
[08:30] <cristian_c> reisio, but I should the right syntax
[08:30] <cristian_c> éuse
[08:30] <cristian_c> *use
[08:30] <brothersome> cristian_c, can you open the device in raw mode? Perhaps you can save some data and afterwards format it
[08:31] <cristian_c> brothersome, ok
[08:31] <cristian_c> How can i open it in raw mode?
[08:31] <brothersome> Make a copy from the whole drive also with commands like dd
[08:31] <Ben64> cristian_c: if you don't need the data that is on there, you should try formatting it
[08:32] <shambat> need some help with multitail: how can I pipe the output to another process e.g. grep like: multitail --mergeall mylog.log mylog2.log | grep "myword"  <--- doing this doesn't seem to work
[08:32] <cristian_c> Ben64, I've to save the data
[08:32] <Ben64> then you should back up with dd, then try fsck
[08:32] <brothersome> cristian_c, I had so much trouble with SD-cards, special when there was a powerloss
[08:32] <cristian_c> brothersome, is there an ubuntu wiki page to use dd with fat?
[08:33] <Ben64> dd doesn't care about filesystems
[08:33] <cristian_c> ok
[08:33] <cristian_c> *is there an ubuntu wiki page for dd?
[08:33] <brothersome> search for dielinux dd
[08:33] <Ben64> theres a man page... "man dd"
[08:33] <cristian_c> uhm
[08:33] <brothersome> linuxdie dd
[08:33] <cristian_c> a wiki guide
[08:33] <cristian_c> not a manpage
[08:34] <Ben64> dd is very simple though, give it an input and an output, thats it
[08:34] <brothersome> http://linux.die.net/man/1/dd
[08:34] <Ben64> dd if=/path/to/sd/device of=/path/to/image.file
[08:34] <cristian_c> it's very different, unfortunately
[08:34] <cristian_c> :(
[08:34] <Ben64> not really
[08:34] <Ben64> man page = manual
[08:34] <cristian_c> uhm
[08:35] <cristian_c> ok, example
[08:35] <cristian_c> dd if=/dev/sdc1 of= ...
[08:35] <cristian_c> I've opend the dd manpage
[08:35] <cristian_c> *open
[08:36] <reisio> cristian_c: of=anything_you_dont_mind_being_written_over
[08:36] <cristian_c> of=FILE
[08:36] <cristian_c>               write to FILE instead of stdout
[08:36] <reisio> any thing, any place
[08:36] <cristian_c> reisio, a target folder, too?
[08:36] <reisio> cristian_c: of=any/place/any/file
[08:36] <Ben64> notice where it says FILE... that means you need to specify a file...
[08:37] <cristian_c> what type of file?
[08:37] <cristian_c> :)
[08:37] <Ben64> its going to create it
[08:37] <reisio> dd just writes what you point it to, to where you point it to
[08:37] <reisio> a useful convention is to say path/to/file.dd, so you remember it was generated by dd
[08:37] <cristian_c> reisio, wich name with?
[08:37] <cristian_c> *which
[08:37] <reisio> doesn't matter :p
[08:37] <cristian_c> ok
[08:37] <k1l_> that will be a "dd" file. just a one-to-one copy of what you just put as input
[08:37] <reisio> you're copying the input, if, to the output, of
 a useful convention is to say path/to/file.dd, so you remember it was generated by dd
[08:38] <cristian_c> ok
[08:38] <cristian_c> perfect
[08:38] <k1l_> you can call it .img, like image. but keep in mind its a direct copy with dd
[08:39] <reisio> yes you could call it some random extension :p
[08:40] <cristian_c> dd if=/dev/sdc1 of=/home/cristian/microsd.dd
[08:42] <Ub0ne> can i run ubuntu on a single core 32bit pc with 1GB ram?
[08:43] <reisio> Ub0ne: by running it
[08:44] <brothersome> Ub0ne, I'm running Ubuntu 32 bit with 1 GB ram
[08:45] <reisio> Ub0ne: 1gb, though, you might be happier with a lighter DE than GNOME or KDE, but they'll probably "work"
[08:45] <k1l_> !lubuntu | Ub0ne
[08:45] <brothersome> UbOne, it depends on your CPU, I have a Celeron dual core - which performs fine
[08:47] <Ub0ne> thank you, :)
[08:58] <cristian_c> A question:
[08:59] <Svetroid> Dw1 thanks for all the help :D
[08:59] <cristian_c> how can I really free the space in my home directory?
[08:59] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[08:59] <cristian_c> *some space
[08:59] <cristian_c> when I delete a file
[09:00] <SwedeMike> Chris7mas: how do you delete it?
[09:01] <cristian_c> SwedeMike, I've deleted the file from manager, and then from the trash
[09:01] <cristian_c> but space is not freed
[09:01] <cristian_c> always 0 bytes available
[09:01] <cristian_c> *file manager
[09:02] <cristian_c> I've tried also with df -h command
[09:02] <SwedeMike> Chris7mas: then you need to delete more files. If you're running ext2/3/4 then root has 5% of the file space, so if root owns files on the same file system, you need to delete those files first, or delete more of your own files.
[09:03] <cristian_c> SwedeMike, no, previously there were more space
[09:03] <SwedeMike> Chris7mas: so filesystem shows 0% free when in effect there is 5% free, but this 5% is only available for root.
[09:03] <geirha> cristian_c: some process probably has that file open
[09:03] <cristian_c> I try to look at the task manager
[09:03] <geirha> so the unlinked file will continue to exist (without a name) until that process ends
[09:03] <geirha> or rather, until it closes the file
[09:04] <cristian_c> SwedeMike, I'm talking about /home
[09:05] <cristian_c> geirha, I'm looking in the task manager
[09:05] <cristian_c> but I don't find nothing relevant
[09:07] <cristian_c> SwedeMike, I don't find a solution
[09:07] <cristian_c> *a trick
[09:08] <SwedeMike> cristian_c: try rebooting, if a process is holding files open so they are not freed, they will be freed when rebooting.
[09:08] <cristian_c> SwedeMike, ok, thans
[09:09] <cristian_c> *thanks
[09:09] <cristian_c> :)
[09:10] <cristian_c> SwedeMike, ok, without rebooting, now I see 6.0 GB
[09:10] <cristian_c> :O
[09:14] <bhavesh> One of my friends has Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and whenever he runs it, his hard drive runs pretty fast for the entire session. There's a continuous loud noise from CPU whenever it is ON. It did not happen when he had Windows XP. How should I diagnose it?
[09:14] <bhavesh> it has 1.2GB RAM, Samsung's 80GB HDD and 3.2Ghz Intel dual core processor
[09:15] <SwedeMike> bhavesh: sounds like he needs more memory.
[09:15] <TJ-> bhavesh: Hard drives run at the same speed all the time, that or they spin down completely
[09:16] <nu8> hello. i have problems at installing dokuwiki on ubuntu 13.10. i did sudo apt-get install dokuwiki and dpkg-reconfigure dokuwiki, but if i go to localhost/dokuwiki or localhost/wiki it says 404 not found
[09:16] <bhavesh> SwedeMike: It even happens when he's running LXDE with only 200MB RAM usage
[09:17] <nu8> installation instructions at https://www.dokuwiki.org/install:ubuntu seem outdated
[09:18] <fidel_> nu8: outdated in what aspect?
[09:18] <nu8> fidel_, for example, i don't have  /etc/apache2/conf.d/dokuwiki.conf
[09:19] <nu8> fidel_, there's nothing related to dokuwiki in /etc/apache2
[09:19] <nu8> fidel_, i checked with find /etc/apache2 -iname '*dokuwiki*'
[09:20] <nu8> the relevant file i think is /etc/dokuwiki/apache.conf
[09:21] <nname> i just installed Mate de, is it safe to remove unity?
[09:21] <fidel_> consider asking in #dokuwiki as well - i guess thats a good place to ask.
[09:21] <nu8> fidel_, i already asked in #dokuwiki. i'm waiting for an answer there
[09:22] <fidel_> nu8: i do have an alias in /etc/apache2/conf.d pointing to /etc/dokuwiki/apache.conf
[09:22] <nu8> fidel_, a symlink?
[09:24] <TJ-> nu8: fidel_: The dokuwiki package (for 13.10) doesn't ship with a "/etc/dokuwiki/apache.conf", maybe that was created manually (or by a tool) after installation?
[09:26] <nu8> TJ-, yeah, i think one single step is missing
[09:29] <TJ-> nu8: Maybe /usr/bin/dokuwiki-addsite creates it - see "man dokuwiki-addsite"
[09:31] <TJ-> nu8: See bug #1242574
[09:34] <nu8> TJ-, it works now! thank you
[09:34] <nu8> i just did: sudo ln -s /etc/dokuwiki/apache.conf /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[09:34] <Andrei> Hi, I noticed that there isn't a boot screen during startup on my PC. I'm using Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
[09:35] <TJ-> nu8: I guess the apache.conf must be generated by the postinst script then
[09:35] <TJ-> nu8: see bug #219418
[09:38] <Monkey_b> hey guys, google is confusing me a little on this so i thought i'd come ask maybe someone can clarify for me
[09:39] <k1l_> !details | Monkey_b
[09:39] <Monkey_b> i just increased the size of one of the volumes on an ubuntu VM of mine, but when i boot the VM up 'df' still reports the old size
[09:39] <nu8> TJ-, i took note of both bugs, i will surely add some comments there when i have some spare time..
[09:40] <k1l_> Andrei: what kernel parameters do you have in grub?
[09:40] <Monkey_b> i imagine something needs to be done at the machine level to get it to resize the volume?'
[09:40] <Andrei> k1l_, What do you mean?
[09:40] <TJ-> Monkey_b: How did you increase the size of the volume?
[09:40] <k1l_> Monkey_b: what did you increase?
[09:41] <Monkey_b> TJ-: this is an Amazon EC2 instance where i basically snapshotted the volume, creatd a new larger one, and remounted it to the machine... boots up just fine, but 'df' still shows the old size
[09:41] <k1l_> Andrei: there are kernel options that let ubuntu not show a bootscreen. maybe you got that?
[09:41] <Andrei> k1l_, I didn't have any kernel settings set. Its a fresh install
[09:41] <TJ-> Monkey_b: You'd need to resize the file-system inside the volume
[09:42] <Monkey_b> TJ-: using something like resize2fs ?
[09:42] <beni-> Hi! Is the ssh server part of the default installation of Ubuntu 12.04, and will it automatically be enabled at start?
[09:42] <TJ-> Monkey_b: Precisely, depending on the FS type, of course
[09:42] <Monkey_b> TJ-: ok thanks, i'll read up on that
[09:42] <TJ-> Monkey_b: You should be able to do an online resize2fs /dev/device
[09:42] <OerHeks> beni-, ssh service is an option, yes
[09:43] <OerHeks> !ssh
[09:43] <beni-> Sorry, I was unclear. I meant Ubuntu 12.03 LTS Server
[09:43] <bekks> beni-: for ubuntu server, you can choose the "OpenSSH server" upon installation.
[09:43] <beni-> ok cool, and when I choose this option it will also be started automatically?
[09:44] <OerHeks> beni-, yes it does
[09:44] <Monkey_b> TJ-: k
[09:44] <beni-> perfect, thanks OerHeks and bekks :-)
[09:45] <Monkey_b> resize2fs 1.42 (29-Nov-2011)
[09:45] <Monkey_b> The filesystem is already 7864064 blocks long.  Nothing to do
[09:45] <Monkey_b> hrmmmm.
[09:46] <TJ-> Monkey_b: OK, so does the VM volume contain a partition table? In which case you'll have to manipulate partitions first
[09:46] <Monkey_b> let me google that hehe
[09:47] <TJ-> Monkey_b: resizing the block device won't alter the partition table on it, so unless you alter the ending sector number of the partition to account for the expanded disk size, when you use "resize2fs" it won't see any spare space to expand the file-system into
[09:48] <Monkey_b> gotcha
[09:48] <TJ-> Monkey_b: If the device in the OS is, for example, /dev/xvda, then check the PT using "sudo fdisk -l /dev/xvda"
[09:49] <TJ-> Monkey_b: If there is a PT, then pay careful attention to the total sectors on the disk as reported by fdisk, and the ending sector of the last partition, which would be the total number of sectors on disk, minus 1
[09:55] <Monkey_b> TJ-: apparently it dosnt' contain a partition table... in fact when i do a 'fdisk' on it, and try to list partitions, there is nothing there
[09:55] <Monkey_b> but i can assure you it's got data there... and it's 94% full atm
[09:55] <Monkey_b> is it possible that a volume can hold data without having a partition table?
[09:56] <brothersome> Monkey_b, is there some unknown format?
[09:56] <Monkey_b> nope it's an ext4 volume
[09:56] <Monkey_b> but when i do 'fdisk /var/xdf1' and hit 'p' to list the partitions
[09:56] <Monkey_b> there's nothing there
[09:56] <brothersome> Have you tried gparted?
[09:56] <Monkey_b> its actually /var/xvdf1 but yea
[09:57] <OerHeks> Monkey_b, how big is that drive, maybe it has a GPT table? sudo parted -l
[09:57] <Monkey_b> err /dev/xvdf1 im a dolt
[09:57] <Monkey_b> Device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor Sun, SGI or OSF disklabel
[09:57] <Monkey_b> Building a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier 0x7f496b2d.
[09:57] <Monkey_b> Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them.
[09:57] <Monkey_b> After that, of course, the previous content won't be recoverable.
[09:58] <Monkey_b> hmmm wth is this
[09:58] <TJ-> Monkey_b: I assume you've been following this guide? http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/ebs-expand-volume.html
[09:58] <Monkey_b> TJ-: correct but it only says to run resize2fs
[09:58] <Monkey_b> which is where it tells me nothing to be done
[09:58] <Monkey_b> they make no mention of fdisk
[10:00] <TJ-> OK, so the file-system is the block-device, no PT
[10:00] <TJ-> Monkey_b: I have to ask - you are 100% sure you've mounted the new block device, not the old one?
[10:00] <Monkey_b> correct, it's its own volume
[10:02] <TJ-> Monkey_b: I'm look at steps 6 and 7 in that guide
[10:02] <Monkey_b> vol-xxxxxx	60 GiB	io1 (200)	snap-xxxxx	March 31, 2014 1:19:46 AM UTC-8	us-east-1b	in-use	None	i-xxxx (Production):/dev/sdf (attached)
[10:02] <Monkey_b> thats from my volumes console, production is the right box, mounted to /dev/sdf
[10:02] <TJ-> Monkey_b: OK, and 60GiB is the new expanded size?
[10:02] <Monkey_b> correct
[10:02] <TJ-> Monkey_b: And how big does 'df' say /dev/sdf is?
[10:02] <Monkey_b> and df-h reports: /dev/xvdf1       30G   27G  2.0G  94% /usr/webroot/xxxxx
[10:03] <Monkey_b> so 30G
[10:03] <Monkey_b> correct instance id references and eveyrthing so yea im like 99.999% sure it's right
[10:06] <Mothership> Hello, is it possible to keep some persistance between the same usb-to-serial devices if they have the same serial number?
[10:07] <TJ-> Monkey_b: "sudo file -s /dev/sdf" ... does that show a different size ?
[10:09] <hotmedal> I can't get maximus to work on gnome 3.8.4 with firefox and stuff, I followed the procedure and everything https://bitbucket.org/mathematicalcoffee/maximus-gnome-shell-extension/issue/23/please-upgrade-to-38#comment-3581856
[10:09] <hotmedal> I'm on saucy btw
[10:09] <Monkey_b> file -s /dev/xvdf1
[10:09] <Monkey_b> says: /dev/xvdf1: Linux rev 1.0 ext4 filesystem data, UUID=b52c55ca-7490-4951-a643-4f564368ed9c (needs journal recovery) (extents) (large files) (huge files)
[10:10] <Monkey_b> no mention of size
[10:12] <TJ-> Monkey_b: how about "grep sdf /proc/partitions"
[10:13] <TJ-> Monkey_b: oops, /dev/xvdf1 !
[10:13] <TJ-> Mothership: Yes, you can create a persistent rule in "/etc/udev/rules.d/" along the same lines as the persistent-net.rules and so forth
[10:14] <Monkey_b>  202       81   31456256 xvdf1
[10:14] <Monkey_b> i imagine changing that to 60GB manually is not wise
[10:15] <Monkey_b> hey wait a minute...
[10:15] <TJ-> Monkey_b: Which is ~ 30GB , which tells us that you've not got the new enlarged device attached, or if you have, it isn't larger than the original
[10:15] <Monkey_b> i just did a vim /proc/partitions
[10:15] <Monkey_b> i see two differnet lines
[10:15] <Monkey_b>  202       80   62914560 xvdf
[10:15] <Monkey_b>  202       81   31456256 xvdf1
[10:16] <TJ-> Monkey_b: Precisely, as I said earlier, the volume has a partition table. The volume is /dev/xvdf
[10:16] <Monkey_b> ohhh
[10:16] <Monkey_b> NOW i see it
[10:16] <Monkey_b> fdisk /dev/xvdf
[10:16] <Monkey_b> now i see the partition :D
[10:16] <TJ-> Monkey_b: You've been treating the partition as the entire block device :)
[10:17] <Kelerion> ok - this'll be fun... haven't built mythtv in *years*! let's give it a go
[10:18] <Monkey_b> TJ-: am i able to change the partition size with fdisk ?
[10:18] <Monkey_b> without deleting/creating to avoid data loss?
[10:18] <sergiolopes> Hi all in the room
[10:19] <brijesh> hello world
[10:19] <sergiolopes> does anybody here knows of a terminal emulator for ubuntu, that allows the user to store frequently used commands, as a menu item for example?
[10:19] <brijesh> in ns2 simulation hoe to just trace sent fiel
[10:19] <brijesh> file
[10:20] <TJ-> Monkey_b: You can, in expert mode, or you could use parted
[10:21] <sergiolopes> Does anybody here knows of a terminal emulator for ubuntu, that allows the user to store frequently used commands, as a menu item for example?
[10:23] <somsip> sergiolopes: I'd suggest most people would use aliases for that
[10:23] <TJ-> sergiolopes: That's usually what the shell's history is used for, or aliases
[10:23] <Kelerion> sergiolopes: bash has it built in - CTRL+R
[10:29] <Monkey_b> TJ-: parted is not being nice jesus
[10:29] <TJ-> Monkey_b: Why?
[10:29] <Touhou11> I recommend the rc shell, use the plan 9 userspace
[10:30] <Monkey_b> 'resize <device> <start> <end>'  start is the current size, and end is the new size correct?
[10:30] <jayanth> hey i need help
[10:31] <jayanth> my ubuntu server installation failed
[10:31] <jayanth> i tried to install it in virtual box but it failed
[10:31] <jayanth> can anyone help me ?
[10:31] <TJ-> Monkey_b: NO!
[10:32] <jayanth> ? ?
[10:32] <Monkey_b> TJ-: got it, its the start size and end size
[10:32] <TJ-> Monkey_b: "start" "end" are the offsets into xvdf of the partition start and ends. Don't do anything, if you're not clear!
[10:32] <Monkey_b> on the physical drive
[10:32] <Monkey_b> yea gotcha
[10:32] <Monkey_b> that said
[10:32] <Monkey_b> Error: The location 60.00GB is outside of the device /dev/xvda1.
[10:32] <x-os> Hello, this isn't really about ubuntu as much as it is about web server stuff but I'm on an ubuntu box so I firgured..ask here. How do I do this: http://herraraduraimages.com/o6z8du1fh    ...I'm migrating a web server to a new domain and I don't know how that images like that work..without ending in .jpg in the link...please help! =]
[10:33] <Monkey_b> it also says
[10:33] <Monkey_b> WARNING: you are attempting to use parted to operate on (resize) a file system. parted's file system manipulation code is not as robust as what you'll find in dedicated, file-system-specific packages like e2fsprogs.  We recommend you use parted only to manipulate partition tables, whenever possible. Support for performing most operations on most types of file systems will be removed in an
[10:33] <Monkey_b> upcoming release.
[10:34] <jayanth> guys can anyone help me with my ubuntu server installation ?
[10:34] <jayanth> it failed
[10:34] <jayanth> please help
[10:35] <Kelerion> jayanth: need to be more specific? failed how?
[10:35] <jayanth> i tried the install in Virtual box, every step went fine.
[10:35] <Kelerion> ok....then what happened?
[10:36] <jayanth> But when the process reaches the additional package download it started troubling
[10:36] <jayanth> says the download has too many errors
[10:37] <Kelerion> sounds like vbox doesn't have internet access...did you set the network card up first in vbox?
[10:37] <jayanth> so i skiped to the boot loader install step
[10:37] <jayanth> the boot loader failed to
[10:37] <jayanth> network card ?
[10:38] <Kelerion> yes.
[10:38] <jayanth> i don't know what it is, but i tried some other Linux OSes and they worked fine
[10:38] <Kelerion> have a look at: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch06.html#network_bridged
[10:38] <jayanth> internet worked well without any need for extra configs
[10:39] <jayanth> but ubuntu server, it failed.
[10:39] <jayanth> ya k i will
[10:39] <TJ-> Monkey_b: Try this, it should generate the command you need:   DEV=/dev/xvdf; echo "parted $DEV unit s resize "$(sudo parted $DEV unit s print | awk '/^Disk/{sub("s$","",$3);size=$3}$0!~/^$/{last=$0}END{$0=last;lp=$1;ls=$2;le=size-1;print lp, ls, le "s"}')
[10:39] <Kelerion> lol Tj
[10:40] <Monkey_b> i have an idea... gonna unmount the volume and reboot server then let it remount
[10:40] <Monkey_b> i wonder if maybe that will do something
[10:40] <Monkey_b> its just odd that no other ec2 users seem to have to go through this ordeal
[10:40] <jayanth> Kelerion: But what about the boot loader failure ? Can it be because of network card that you mentioned ?
[10:40] <TJ-> Monkey_b: Once the partition table has been rewritten, you need to ask the kernel to use the new one, so you need to do "sudo partprobe /dev/xvdf" ... if that is accepted, *then* you can use "resize2fs"
[10:41] <Kelerion> jayanth: one problem at a time.
[10:41] <TJ-> Monkey_b: Probably because they didn't partition the volume, but had a file-system directly in it
[10:41] <TJ-> Monkey_b: show us what that shell script prints out
[10:42] <Monkey_b> ok one sec its coming online
[10:42] <radioiaaneg> hi sll
[10:42] <radioiaaneg> sorry hi all ehehe
[10:42] <jayanth> hmm k
[10:42] <Monkey_b> TJ-: really appreciate all your help by the way
[10:42] <jayanth> i am reading the post in the link
[10:43] <Monkey_b> TJ-: parted /dev/xvdf unit s resize 1 2048s 125829119s
[10:44] <Monkey_b> (sectors = sectors i imagine)
[10:44] <Monkey_b> s*
[10:44] <TJ-> Monkey_b: OK, and 512*125829119 = 64424508928
[10:44] <TJ-> Monkey_b: That command it gives you looks to be correct, then
[10:44] <Monkey_b> i can try it
[10:44] <Monkey_b> i have snapshots of my volume nothings gonna happen if it busts
[10:45] <Touhou11> gonna?
[10:45] <Monkey_b> going to*
[10:45] <Monkey_b> :)
[10:45] <Monkey_b> Error: File system has an incompatible feature enabled.  Compatible features are
[10:45] <Monkey_b> has_journal, dir_index, filetype, sparse_super and large_file.  Use tune2fs or
[10:45] <Monkey_b> debugfs to remove features.
[10:45] <TJ-> Monkey_b: Oh, that's parted's resize trying to mess with the file-system as well! Which version of Ubuntu is in the instance?
[10:45] <Monkey_b> cloud admining is the funnest rollercoaster ever
[10:46] <Monkey_b> lemme hceck
[10:46] <Monkey_b> 12.04
[10:46] <Monkey_b> precise
[10:47] <Zyquil> Hi, I was wondering if it was possible to install Ubuntu 13.1 over an installation of Microsoft ME? Like totally overwrite it? The desktop's quite old. Like a decade old or so
[10:47] <TJ-> Monkey_b: OK, try using parted's "move" instead of "resize"
[10:47] <Touhou11> Zyquil: Yes, this would be trivial
[10:47] <Monkey_b> ok, same command use move instead of resize?
[10:48] <Monkey_b> parted /dev/xvdf unit s move 1 2048s 125829119s
[10:48] <Monkey_b> ?
[10:48] <TJ-> Monkey_b: Yes, but I think it'll refuse since "move" wants to only use free-space
[10:48] <Monkey_b> ahh
[10:48] <Monkey_b> Error: File system has an incompatible feature enabled.  Compatible features are
[10:48] <Monkey_b> has_journal, dir_index, filetype, sparse_super and large_file.  Use tune2fs or
[10:48] <Monkey_b> debugfs to remove features.
[10:48] <Monkey_b> hehe same
[10:48] <Zyquil> Touhou11: In which step perhaps?
[10:48] <junka> will 14.04 lts have the newest kernel 3.14?
[10:49] <Monkey_b> and has the same warning about modifying a file system
[10:49] <TJ-> Monkey_b: OK, the only other way is to remove the partition and recreate it with the new values
[10:49] <Touhou11> Zyquil: I do not understand your question
[10:49] <Monkey_b> TJ-: this implies data loss correct?
[10:49] <Monkey_b> ok i know what i'll do
[10:49] <Monkey_b> create a brand new volune, attach it, copy everything over, nuke the old
[10:49] <Zyquil> Touhou11: Which part? Or the whole question?
[10:50] <Zyquil> If so will rephrase it into something simpler, was a bit of a shotgun.
[10:50] <Monkey_b> there's no use fighting an uphill battle
[10:50] <radioiaaneg> is it possible, using 2 separate audio devices, to simultaneously run  a Digital Audio Workstation (ex. linux multimedia studio) trough jack and the default system audio device  (ex.brower or music player) using pulse audio?
[10:50] <TJ-> Monkey_b: This is all tools trying too hard to protect you! You're only wanting to change a single 48-bit value!
[10:51] <Touhou11> Zyquil: Yes, it's possible to replace Windows ME with Ubuntu. Ubuntu asks you during the install process how you wish to format the disk, and whether you wish to entirely replace any existing Operating Systems
[10:51] <hugaraxia> The Ubuntu 13.10 liveCD is crashing for me when attempting to start the installer or live-mode. The last thing it mentions, every time, is nouveau. Is there any way to prevent nouveau from being loaded (or something similar?)
[10:51] <TJ-> Monkey_b: I'm thinking this might do it, something like "parted /dev/xvdf unit s rm 1 mkpart primary 2048s 125829119s"
[10:52] <Zyquil> I see, thanks. Only installed linux before as a dualboot option which is why I was asking.
[10:52] <TJ-> Monkey_b: No, hang on, we need something extra there
[10:52] <Monkey_b> TJ-: ok well i started restarting the VM with a new volume already lol
[10:52] <Monkey_b> we can give it a shot when it comes back up
[10:52] <TJ-> Monkey_b: more like "parted /dev/xvdf unit s rm 1 mkpart primary ext2 2048s 125829119s"
[10:52] <Monkey_b> its ext4
[10:53] <TJ-> Monkey_b: That's of no matter, that "ext2" simply means that parted sets the partition type value to 0x83... "mkpart" doesn't deal in file-systems, that is done by "mkpartfs"
[10:53] <Monkey_b> ok
[10:54] <TJ-> Monkey_b: parted can be amazingly brain-dead sometimes
[10:57] <depoop> TJ-: yeah
[11:00] <Monkey_b> TJ-: i need to step away for 5-10 mins i apologize, brb
[11:04] <Guest45074> who
[11:08] <Guest45074> exit
[11:08] <Guest45074> exit
[11:08] <Guest45074> exit
[11:09] <ikonia>  /exit
[11:09] <Guest45074> quit
[11:09] <ikonia> or /quit
[11:10] <kuroarashi> exit
[11:10] <organicanarchy> should I install Wubi or a VM for testing out gaming?
[11:12] <brothersome> What game origanica...
[11:13] <o------> does java work for chromiume
[11:13] <o------> hi
[11:15] <organicanarchy> brothersome: I was thinking of trying out some of my steam games to see if they all work so I could ditch my win7
[11:16] <Touhou11> organicanarchy: Good luck, only a fraction of games on Steam currently support Linux
[11:17] <organicanarchy> Touhou11: most of my games are supported, and I was going to try them witn WINE
[11:19] <organicanarchy> just wondering if a VM or a Wubi install is better
[11:26] <organicanarchy> Touhou11: any suggestions on Wubi or VM>?
[11:27] <Touhou11> organicanarchy: Wubi (I thought this no longer exists though). It can be difficult to get hardware acceleration for graphics through VMs, though VMWare has the best support for this imo
[11:28] <organicanarchy> Touhou11: Wubi still works for 12.04 LTS
[11:29] <k1l_> organicanarchy: dont use wubi
[11:29] <organicanarchy> k1l_ why not
[11:29] <k1l_> it will break.
[11:29] <organicanarchy> how so?
[11:30] <k1l_> if you want best gaming performance install windows or play games that support native ubunut support
[11:30] <Touhou11> OS X is also an option, quite a few games support it now
[11:30] <organicanarchy> running windows now, I just fucking HATE it lol. even if my gfx card work s with Ubuntu wubi is a bad idea?
[11:31] <k1l_> but wubi is a container on ntfs inside the windows partition. there is too much that can go wrong and its slower. so if you want to test use a live system or make a native install into own partitions
[11:31] <k1l_> organicanarchy: wubi is a bad idea.
[11:32] <k1l_> no matter what video card
[11:32] <organicanarchy> i have a 40gig HD thats not plugged in on my machine, is there a way to install Ubuntu without installing grub?
[11:32] <organicanarchy> I had a dual boot at one point, and grub was on my system, it was a real hassle to get windows to work again after getting rid of Ubuntu
[11:33] <Guest54988> how can i backup installed software in ubuntu?
[11:34] <k1l_> organicanarchy: there is no hassle. just run the windows cd and let is "fix" the mbr and install the windows bootload again.
[11:35] <k1l_> organicanarchy: so not installing grub is way more hassle than running that windows cd after a ubuntu remove
[11:35] <TJ-> organicanarchy: The best way with 2 physical drives is to simply change the BIOS boot-device at start-up, then you don't have to have GRUB replace the Windows boot-loader on HDD1, since BIOS will boot from HDD2 for Linux and HDD1 for Windows.
[11:35] <organicanarchy> k1l_ thx for the info, im off to make a live USB
[11:36] <organicanarchy> TJ- do I install grub to the 2nd HD
[11:37] <TJ-> organicanarchy: Install GRUB to the same device as you install Linux. You might have to check the advanced boot-loader settings in the installer, there is a Button that leads to the options for that
[11:37] <organicanarchy> alright, I'll poke around forums for more detailed instructions on that
[11:37] <organicanarchy> TJ- Thank you
[11:38] <Argafal_> I'm trying to get udev to create a symlink for tty0. I created /etc/udev/rules.d/99-telescope.rules, containing the line: KERNEL=="ttyS0", SYMLINK+="telescope", GROUP="dialout", mode="666". Yet, /dev/telescope does not exist. Any ideas what to try/do?
[11:40] <TJ-> Argafal_: What happens if ttyS0 isn't the device you want? Shouldn't you be matching on the device serial number, or is this a basic rule to get it working first?
[11:41] <Argafal_> TJ-: yes, maybe one would want to that next - but i can't even get the simple rule to work.
[11:42] <o------> where do my  desktop icons go after you rite click them and remove
[11:42] <o------> thankyou
[11:42] <Argafal_> TJ-: according to udevadm the ttyS* differ by KERNELS="00:0a" and KERNELS="00:09" see http://nopaste.info/47b5d6c3da.html
[11:43] <Monkey_b> TJ-: i apologize man i had to throw the towel in the server needs to come online and no more time to spare, so i just made new vol, copied stuff over, unmounting old vol shortly
[11:43] <Monkey_b> its just a storage drive so this was more practical
[11:43] <Monkey_b> i should have gone this route sooner
[11:43] <sqarzz> question on bridging network interfaces, anyone who can help on this specific matter?
[11:46] <TJ-> Argafal_: SUBSYSTEM=="tty", KERNEL=="ttyS0", ACTION=="add|change", SYMLINK+="telescope", GROUP="dialout", MODE="666", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
[11:46] <TJ-> Monkey_b: No worries, the important thing is to have it working
[11:46] <Monkey_b> exactly, if it was up to me i love to learn and would have continued the other route just to learn my way around
[11:47] <Monkey_b> but sometimes we just have to get the job done
[11:47] <Monkey_b> thanks for your help :)
[11:47] <TJ-> Monkey_b: when you've got the luxury to take it offline it opens up so many more options
[11:48] <o------> does anyone use chromiume search for google
[11:48] <TJ-> Argafal_: And you should use udevadm with "monitor" and "trigger" to check the events the kernel is sending, to ensure yo're matching them correctly
[11:50] <xro> Hi, i need an old ssh client... If i download one and compile it, it won't change my actual ssh client (i mean it won't be the default ssh client), right?
[11:51] <TJ-> xro: Why do you need an old(er) ssh client?
[11:53] <o------> .
[11:54] <Argafal_> TJ-: do you know if i can trigger this while running? rmmod some module, aybe?
[11:54] <xro> TJ, i have an old server that does not support the new one... They will fix it soon...
[11:55] <xro> TJ-, what about my compilation question?
[11:56] <Argafal_> TJ-: /etc/init.d/udev restart did not bring any change
[11:57] <sqarzz> hi guys: i have a server host and a VM running on it. I set up a bridge in order to share the interface. I set an ip adress fo rthe host. On the VM I would like to set a different extternal IP. The gateway of this second ip (totaly other subnet than first ip) doesnt' gets resolved in the VM. Any ideas?
[12:00] <TJ-> Argafal_: If you use 2 terminals, in one start a monitor: "udevadm monitor --kernel --property 2>&1 | tee /tmp/udev.log", in the other do "udevadm trigger" ... then Ctrl+C the monitor, and grep the /tmp/udev.log for the ttySX events
[12:00] <Argafal_> thanks.
[12:01] <TJ-> xro: Your question makes no sense. How do you mean, "server doesn't support"? do you mean the protocol version is different? If so, on the client simply tell it to only use v1, as in "ssh -1 ..."
[12:03] <Argafal_> TJ-: my udev rule is ignored. output relevant to ttyS0 here http://nopaste.info/0ab2564f71.html
[12:03] <TJ-> sqarzz: What do you by "doesn't get resolved" - your question implies the need for DNS, which infers you need to configure a resolver in the guest VM
[12:04] <Argafal_> TJ-: let me rephrase that, there is no output connected to it, but the device is no there.
[12:05] <TJ-> Argafal_: Is the rules file readable by udev? Is it named "<name>.rules" ?
[12:07] <xro> TJ-, there are some new parameter in the new client...
[12:07] <ko_lo> o/
[12:08] <Argafal_> TJ-: belongs to root.root 644. so, yes. it's ignored by /etc/init.d/udev restart. it works with udevadm trigger
[12:08] <ko_lo> on a ubuntu server 13.10 I tried to add a route using "ip route add 172.16.2.1/24 dev eth0" which result in "RTnetLINK answers: Invalid argument" any idea on how to solve it ?
[12:09] <Argafal_> is it possible that udev is loaded to late during bootup to catch the ttyS0?
[12:11] <TJ-> Argafal_: "restarting" udev won't necessarily trigger the events again
[12:12] <mindmill> mindmill
[12:13] <mindmill> hi
[12:14] <Guest83389> hi, i just installed ubuntu 12.04 on hp 6720S laptop, but my wifi is not working
[12:20] <Argafal_> TJ-: i see. let's see a restart again, with your newly suggested rule :)
[12:21] <Argafal_> TJ-: Yes, that works! :) KERNELS=="00:09", SYMLINK+="telescope", GROUP="dialout", MODE="666" is even better, since it then detects the correct device indpendent on ttysX. THanks so much
[12:21] <Argafal_> Ok. another thing i notice. I'm running xubuntu. And applications started from the desktop use / as working directory, rather than home. why, I don't know.
[12:22] <Argafal_> maybe a question for #xubuntu?
[12:25] <o------> where do  my desltop ixons go to when you remve them from the desktop
[12:27] <o------> hi malev
[12:44] <Yagger> I have a (minor) problem with an Ubunut 12.04 LTS server box. I recently have configured IPv6 on the machine and after a few days I am seeing a few "global temporary deprecated dynamic". Shouldn't they be deleted automatically. I do not see the coutners for valid_lft going down either. Any hints?
[12:44] <suore> i have problem how to check what application downloading ??
[12:46] <bipul> I am runing this  wifi adapter " Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter " is it compatible with Linux
[12:47] <dw1> probably, but you could try a livecd/usb to be sure
[12:48] <sydneyJDykstra> bipul:  Ubuntu is capable with most devices,but there are a few exceptions.
[12:48] <bipul> How can i verify
[12:49] <sydneyJDykstra> bipul: Try it with a live cd or a flash drive.
[12:50] <sydneyJDykstra> bipul: I it doesn't work in the live cd,it probably wont work when ubuntu is installed.
[12:50] <bipul> it's working here
[12:50] <bipul> i can able to access wireless network
[12:51] <bipul> even it shows number of wifi connection are available or not.
[12:51] <sydneyJDykstra> bipul: Are you in the live cd or flash drive?
[12:51] <bipul> sydneyJDykstra, not with live cd
[12:52] <bipul> But i have installed ubuntu on it, and it is working fine here
[12:52] <sydneyJDykstra> bipul: ok.
[12:53] <dw1> bipul: so you answered your own question :p
[12:54] <sydneyJDykstra> dw1: Apparently he did.:-D
[12:54] <bipul> dw1, yes, i just wants to confirmed, as i am failed to analyze a network stuff.
[12:55] <dw1> bipul: one guy reported some performance issue that went away with this http://tinyurl.com/la7wbya
[12:55] <dw1> bipul: but if its working no worries :/
[12:56] <davidals> Hey guys, I need some help. I have a machine where one user is logged and running a Django app. I'm on another user and changed the .profile of the app-runner. How to force the user running the app to uupdate its envars?
[12:57] <jarrz> Hi, does anyone have experience with webmin? Is it recommended / buggy, etc?
[12:57] <dw1> it can be helpful if you like gui
[12:58] <smoalne> msg /nickserv identify hotel216
[12:58] <dw1> not as good as a real hosting software though i guess
[12:58] <o------> does anyone know how to change my color  of my text in  here
[12:59] <dw1> smoalne: woo got your password
[12:59] <dw1> smoalne: *commence nick steal*
[13:00] <dw1> smoalne: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#changepass
[13:00] <k1l_> o------: dont use color. that is disabled in this channel anyway
[13:00] <smoalne> dw1 thanks
[13:00] <k1l_> !webmin | jarrz
[13:11] <atrioom> i have a shell script starting screen. but when i launch it, it puts me in the program screen. i just want the script to silently start screen. a & after screen does not work. (you have to be connected to a terminal)
[13:11] <atrioom> can somebody clarify what & does, and why it doesn't work here?
[13:13] <Guest5032> hi
[13:13] <sydneyJDykstra> Guest5032: hello!!
[13:17] <lickalott> gents, is there an easy way to transfer movies to an ipod touch without itunes?  I've tried banshee (garbage) and Floola (garbage as well)
[13:17] <lickalott> any help would be appreciated
[13:21] <dw1> atrioom: & puts it in the background.. does that work, and it just closes when you close the terminal which you dont want?
[13:22] <dw1> atrioom: you need to detach the process from the terminal to keep it running when the terminal closes.. with nohup
[13:24] <Guest5032> l
[13:24] <dw1> atrioom: if something is already running you can use disown to detach it
[13:25] <BrixSat> JDatabaseMySQLi::query: 1054 - Unknown column 'alias' in 'where clause' SQL=SELECT id FROM j17_assets WHERE alias = 'root'
[13:25] <BrixSat> how do i fix this in a joomla 2.5.19
[13:26] <dw1> BrixSat: /join #joomla ?
[13:26] <BlueEagle> !ot | BrixSat
[13:27] <BrixSat> thanks BlueEagle
[13:31] <justaneter> I want to install U14.04 lts. I have a latest beta version now. it works good... should i wait for stable, or beta is ok?
[13:33] <madsj> I'm trying desperatly to remove the alt-tab key binding in Ubuntu because it clashes with emacs; I don't see it in settings (Ctrl-Tab for the application/window cycling)
[13:33] <madsj> any hint on configuration files that will remove this beast?
[13:34] <dw1> modsj: compiz config settings manager ...
[13:34] <trijntje> madsj: compizconfig-settings-manager -> unity
[13:35] <dw1> yeah install that package
[13:35] <madsj> trijntje: I don't have that tool; only compiz
[13:36] <dw1> madsj: install it as trijntje wrote the filename
[13:37] <TeraJL> is there any way to only switch workspaces on the main monitor? like "workspaces_only_on_primary" on gnome
[13:37] <TeraJL> ?
[13:38] <Lope> when I try remove a ppa using apt-add-repository --remove I get an error saying --remove is not a valid option?
[13:38] <quem> hello good folks. i run ubuntu 12.04 lts on my personal server. i'm tempted to install ubuntu 14.04 beta(2?) so i can start switching to btrfs on two of my harddrives. dare i? :)
[13:39] <quem> i've had some bad experiences with switching to desktop betas too soon in the past.
[13:39] <justaneter> Lope: without --
[13:40] <dw1> quem: might as well add beta filesystems to the mix :p
[13:40] <dw1> quem: what could possibly go wrong :)
[13:40] <Lope> justaneter: thanks. weird that they made it so non-standard.
[13:40] <quem> dw1: i'm confident in btrfs, i just don't want to have to reinstall ubuntu again, heh
[13:41] <o------> how t do i change my lettering in here
[13:41] <quem> dw1: it's for non-essential data, if it works fine i'll switch my other drives to btrfs in autumn or so.
[13:41] <quem> and make good use of the features i'm interested in until then.
[13:41] <dw1> quem: sounds like fun
[13:41] <dami0> hi. i'm trying to set up a proxy. i used ssh for it: $ ssh -D 8080 me@mycomputer
[13:42] <dami0> but whenever i try to use it in firefox i just get connection reset while loading page
[13:44] <o------> kkkkk
[13:44] <dami0> i didn't want to type out everything so me@mycomputer isn't what i'm actually entering into the interpeter
[13:44] <o------> l
[13:44] <dw1> quem: cant speak for beta stability, sorry
[13:44] <o------> h
[13:45] <dw1> dami0: didnt know you could proxy that way :/
[13:45] <o------> ;
[13:46] <dw1> dami0: squid works for me
[13:46] <Pici> o------: please stop that.
[13:47] <dami0> dw1: uni computers so i don't have root access :<
[13:47] <jarrz> k1l_: thanks for the info. Guess I won't be using it then :D
[13:47] <dami0> unless there is something installed by default that i could set up, but i only have one port set up and i need it for ssh
[13:48] <justaneter> westheimer: hello
[13:48] <o------> ll
[13:48] <madsj> trijntje: it was ccsm, but I don't see any alt-tab anywhere
[13:48] <o------> fuck xchat im done
[13:48] <dami0> o------: use irssi
[13:48] <DJones> o------: Please don't swear
[13:48] <westheimer> qq
[13:49] <dw1> o------: smuxi !
[13:49] <o------> ii been asking how to change my color
[13:49] <o------> for a while b i need help
[13:49] <westheimer> русские есть?
[13:49] <dw1> o------: you cant color your text.  if usernames are colored its probably just for you to identify different users
[13:50] <dw1> o------: others dont see the same colors
[13:50] <o------> i want to change from gray
[13:50] <dami0> really?
[13:50] <dami0> oh, that's what you mean. nevermind.
[13:50] <atrioom> dw1: when I put & after screen in the script, the script doesnt start the programm at all. it just states: you have to be connected to a terminal.
[13:51] <o------> like you are red    D W 1  that text lettering and my name from being the color gray
[13:51] <cejp> in
[13:52] <atrioom> dw1: and 'ps -ef | grep -i screen' comes up empty.
[13:52] <Pici> o------: we're only "red" because we are mentioning your nick.
[13:53] <o------> art for his name is blue
[13:53] <dw1> atrioom: does this help http://makandracards.com/makandra/2533-solve-screen-error-cannot-open-your-terminal-dev-pts-0-please-check
[13:54] <o------> why is my name in gray can i make my letter that i type blue red green
[13:54] <atrioom> dw1: nohup is a good lead, i'll check it out. sec, i'll have a look
[13:54] <dw1> o------: no and if you could we wouldnt see it just you
[13:54] <dw1> o------: actually maybe, depending on your client, but again we wouldnt see it
[13:55] <o------> atriroom his name is in blue
[13:55] <dw1> o------: people are random colours in my client
[13:55] <atrioom> dw1: that could be the problem when running the shellscript with sudo for example. but it's all executed by the same user. or so it seems...
[13:55] <o------> imnew to this stff
[13:55] <dw1> o------: irc is really only black and white, but your client colors things to make it easier
[13:55] <o------> im new to ubuntu
[13:56] <o------> so that the only color im going to have is gray and their is no way to change that color
[13:57] <dw1> o------: some client might let you change it but it would just be for you
[13:57] <justaneter> ////////////////////////////
[13:57] <o------> imusing x chat
[13:57] <o------> can you change colors in x chat
[13:58] <dw1> o------: it seems you can but its not easy http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=5585
[13:58] <dw1> o------: /join #xchat ask there
[14:00] <atrioom> dw1: okay... i just put screen into the script now and start the script itself with the succeeding &
[14:00] <atrioom> dw1: which gives me the desired outcome. thanks for the help though!
[14:00] <dw1> atrioom: cool
[14:02] <prashant29> can anyone help with this error in ap-hotspot? error: "Your wireless card does not support Access Point mode"
[14:02] <o------> ..
[14:03] <o------> nn
[14:05] <llutz> prashant29: buy a different one, check if the used chipset supports ap-mode before paying
[14:05] <toyotapie> is there a command I can run in apt-get to see which repository is providing a package?
[14:06] <llutz> toyotapie: apt-cache policy packagename
[14:06] <toyotapie> thanks llutz, I was doing apt-cache show packagename. My bad! Problem fixed :d
[14:08] <anonymous> hrr
[14:08] <anonymous> hello
[14:09] <esde> Anyone know how NoMachine enables/disables connections in server.cfg (or elsewhere)? I disabled connections with the GUI last night, and now even though I can SSH into the machine, I cannot connect with NoMachine because connections are disabled. Also, tried xrdp just to get a GUI and enable NoMachine connections, no go.
[14:11] <prashant29> llutz: thanks
[14:22] <KyouReeUs4nfo> prashant29: If you are trying to setup a hotspot, this might help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/180733/how-to-setup-a-wi-fi-hotspot-access-point-mode ; check comments someone set it up without AP support
[14:22] <john_doe_jr> I have a binary that I installed in /usr/local/bin/ but when I execute this binary stored in this location it does not read my conf file located in my home directory under ~/.conf (which is a hidden file)…would I just have to add something to my bash_profile file or something in order for the config file parameters to be read each time the binary is executed?
[14:23] <ikonia> john_doe_jr: it depends,
[14:23] <ikonia> john_doe_jr: the binary may have a flat to set the path to the config file, or it maybe hardcoded at build time
[14:24] <john_doe_jr> ikonia: good point
[14:25] <john_doe_jr> ikonia: looks like it doesn't though…it just assumes that the config file is in the person's home directory….if I wanted to just add this to a bash_profile or something how would I go about doing this?
[14:27] <ikonia> john_doe_jr: add what ?
[14:27] <ikonia> john_doe_jr: if it assume it's in the persons home directory - put the file in the persons home directory
[14:27] <o------> .
[14:27] <o------> j
[14:28] <john_doe_jr> ikonia: I did …
[14:28] <ikonia> john_doe_jr: so what's the issue then (apologies if I've missed it)
[14:28] <geekstay> Hi everyone. I've got a problem when I plug another screen on my pc via VGA. When I connect it, when I tape on a key, "Display Settings" menu appears.
[14:28] <o------> s
[14:29] <ikonia> o------: can you stop that please
[14:29] <john_doe_jr> ikonia: alright…some deails…I installed amazon-glacier-cmd from https://github.com/uskudnik/amazon-glacier-cmd-interface using the python setup.py install
[14:30] <Guest77325> http://www.marketglory.com/strategygame/galahad1st for online gamers, if you didn't already, use this link to register on MerkatGlory: a free2play financial strategy game where virtual currency can be converted into real money. It starts out slow but in time you can turn a good profit that is if you have the necessary patience to grow a little bit every day :P
[14:30] <cfhowlett> !spam|guest77
[14:30] <o------> i setting here trying to figure out how to change the coloring of what im typing is gray
[14:30] <o------> i want my typing to be black
[14:30] <john_doe_jr> ikonia: never mind I think I figured it out
[14:30] <ikonia> o------: please do that in a test channel, such as ##test
[14:31] <o------> ty
[14:31] <the8thbit> Anyone want to help me get my mic working? I'm on a dell inspiron laptop, and I'm not sure where to start. I have my mic turned on in the audio panel, but no audio gets recorded when I try to use eg cheese to record a video, and the 'input level' indicator in the sound manager never shows anything
[14:33] <o------> will i be typing in gray using x chat for the rest of my life
[14:33] <the8thbit> here is my lspci: http://pastebin.com/LarX6Rzw
[14:34] <o------> ikon
[14:35] <o------> do you know how to change the color of the letters i type in x chat ikon
[14:36] <ikonia> o------: try the #xchat channel
[14:36] <jhutchins_wk> o------: Perhaps you should seek some documentation for your irc client, or for irc in general.
[14:36] <rww> You are aware that #ubuntu (and many other channels) strip color codes out so this would just be client-side, yes?
[14:36] <ikonia> o------: most channels (like this one) have colour mode turned off
[14:36] <rww> or rather, color-blocking mode turned on :3
[14:36] <ikonia> yes, better description
[14:37] <geekstay> Nobody can help me please ?
[14:37] <jhutchins_wk> o------: Your local display can be set independently of the text you send to the server.
[14:37] <o------> how do you do that
[14:37] <jhutchins_wk> o------: Ultimately it's the local client that decides how text is displayed, although the server can filter it.
[14:37] <o------> idont know what you all are talking im new
[14:37] <nekko> join #Node.js
[14:37] <cfhowlett> geekstay, did you even state the problem?
[14:38] <jhutchins_wk> o------: http://xchat.org/docs/
[14:38] <rww> 14:28:11 < geekstay> Hi everyone. I've got a problem when I plug another screen on my pc via VGA. When I connect it, when I tape on a key, "Display Settings" menu appears.
[14:40] <geekstay> When I press a key*
[14:44] <geekstay> cfhowlett : 14:28:11 < geekstay> Hi everyone. I've got a problem when I plug another screen on my pc via VGA. When I connect it, when I press a key, "Display Settings" menu appears.
[14:48] <KyouReeUs4nfo> the8thbit: unmute internal mic using pavucontrol if it is muted
[14:49] <the8thbit> KyouReeUs4nfo: its not
[14:50] <the8thbit> I just installed oem-audio-hda-daily-dkms, do I need to restart maybe?
[14:51] <KyouReeUs4nfo> the8bit: not sure, give it a go
[14:52] <llutz> whow, bug #298138 fixed/closed after only 9 yrs
[14:52] <TeraJL> is there any way to only show play/pause control if app is open? i was able to do it before with gconf but does not seem to be working
[14:52] <llutz> wrong window sry, not that bug
[14:56] <TeraJL> using dconf, going to com.canonical.indicator.sound on ubuntu 14.04 and removing all "preferred-media-players" should remove player controls unless player is open, but it doesn't seem to be working, can someone confirm that this is a bug?
[15:09] <nyjkkyjn> Good afternoon..
[15:09] <george1> nyjkkyjn hello
[15:12] <nyjkkyjn> I have a problem accessing my ntfs partition through nautilus (gvfs).. it tells me I cannot read directory contents because of permission... What are the right permissions to set in /media?
[15:12] <xvinci> ciao
[15:13] <xvinci> !list
[15:13] <nyjkkyjn> I changed my user id... maybe I did something without realizing...
[15:17] <nyjkkyjn> what are the right permissions for /media subdirectories?
[15:18] <nyjkkyjn> is it safe to let them belong to me?
[15:18] <brothersome> nyjkkyjn, depends on files like fstab
[15:19] <nyjkkyjn> brothersome, my ntfs partition is not in /etc/fstab, so gvfs should take care of mounting it...
[15:19] <kriskropd> I'm trying to write a script that lets me pop a bunch of old data disks into a usb cd-rom and copies all the data from the cd-rom to the hard disk without prompting me for anything and simply ejecting the disk when it is done and maybe beeping when a 'du' check sees the copied files match the cd's files - I thought I could rely on dmesg to watch for when a new cd-rom was inserted, but I appear to be wrong as the system I'm using isn't automounting media and
[15:19] <evilbug> i need some help with the following two errors that started showing yesterday after removing a php repo > http://is.gd/aCwaa5
[15:19] <evilbug> ubuntu 12.04
[15:21] <S4nD3r> Please, how to install jabref stable? I'm using apt-get install jabref, but this just installs a beta one...
[15:30] <jklauburg> can anyone help with a samba install error?
[15:32] <zubuntu> hi
[15:32] <zubuntu> user icon on top bar next to system icon is missing
[15:32] <zubuntu> how can it make it appear ?
[15:33] <OerHeks> jklauburg, tell us the problem, wait and see
[15:33] <jklauburg> I cant install samba, returns an error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7185303/
[15:33] <jklauburg> using ubuntu 13.10
[15:34] <zubuntu> how can i make user icon appear on right top bar  ?
[15:36] <OerHeks> jklauburg, how did you try to install samba, what is the command you used?
[15:36] <jklauburg> zubuntu could try using unity tweak to change what you want displayed
[15:36] <forensickid> zubuntu, checkout http://askubuntu.com/questions/165562/add-apps-to-top-panel-in-ubuntu-12-04
[15:37] <jklauburg> oerheks, i right clicked a folder to share, told me samba was missing, attempted to install, returned the error
[15:38] <wiek> I have a brand new HDD. How can i add it to my system as an encrypted disk?
[15:38] <philinux> zubuntu;~ top right gear. System settings> user accounts. Tick show my login name.
[15:39] <OerHeks> jklauburg, maybe this guide is a help to install samba, after this, re-add the folder to share >> http://www.unixmen.com/howto-install-and-configure-samba-share-in-ubuntu/
[15:40] <zubuntu> philinux:  there s no that option in system settings :S
[15:40] <zubuntu> http://i.hizliresim.com/KgdMMZ.png
[15:40] <zubuntu> this is what i want
[15:40] <Pa^2> Acer laptop loses touchscreen after lid close suspend.  How can I get it back?
[15:41] <gitbashonwindows> hi guys I have just downloaded the latest version on ubuntu to my 8GB USB. I am trying to have dual VM windows(family useage) and ubuntu(for my only). I have partition 20GB for ubuntu.  What else do I need to do?
[15:41] <wiek> gitbashonwindows: did you boot off the usb yet? it should be handled by the installer nowadays..
[15:42] <gitbashonwindows> wiek not yet just wanted to make sure i have done everything right before i get it started
[15:43] <wiek> gitbashonwindows: boot from the usb. Tbh, you don't have to do that manually anymore.
[15:44] <philinux> zubuntu;~ ah yes. gsettings set com.canonical.indicator.session show-real-name-on-panel true
[15:44] <gitbashonwindows> wiek thats
[15:44] <gitbashonwindows> wiek thanks
[15:44] <philinux> zubuntu;~  works in 13.04 and 13.10. It's 14.04 that has the option in system settings
[15:45] <philinux> zubuntu;~ u can use the false option to turn it off
[15:45] <Fredric_> Hi, have anyone set up a cs:go server on ubuntu and had trouble with using rcon?
[15:45] <wiek> anyone have experience setting up encryption on a new disk?
[15:46] <ikonia> Fredric_: why don't you just state the problem you need help with
[15:46] <ikonia> wiek: why don't you just ask the question you want answering
[15:46] <wiek> ikonia: I have a brand new HDD. How can i add it to my system as an encrypted disk?
[15:46] <ikonia> wiek: now wait for someone in the channel to answer
[15:47] <wiek> ikonia: thanks :)
[15:47] <badserii> wiek, to what system, windows/linux ?
[15:47] <Fredric> ikonia: I am getting "Unable to connect to remote server (SERVERIP:PORT)" from the client, but this only happens on the ubuntu server. I cannot find a steam/csgo channel who can help.
[15:47] <jklauburg> oerheks, i get same error trying that website to install
[15:47] <wiek> badserii: ubuntu. I'm adding an additional disk
[15:49] <Fredric> Are iptables open by default?
[15:49] <wiek> Fredric: where are you trying to connect from (network)?
[15:50] <badserii> wiek, check this page if it helps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsOnRemovableStorage
[15:50] <wiek> badserii: awesome, thanks.
[15:50] <badserii> wiek, is your storage removable or not?
[15:50] <Fredric> wiek: lan
[15:50] <wiek> badserii: no it's an internal disk, but I might not always have it mounted
[15:51] <Pa^2> Allow me to rephrase: Acer laptop running 13.10 suspends correctly from upper right menu, when suspended via lid close touch screen does not work.  Any thoughts?
[15:51] <daftykins> Fredric: run "iptables -F" and "iptables -X" to dump all firewall rules and confirm it's not that
[15:52] <wiek> Fredric: and you can connect from other clients?
[15:52] <Fredric> daftykins: both print nothing. I assume they are empty?
[15:53] <daftykins> Fredric: they report nothing when they run, now try connecting again
[15:53] <daftykins> Fredric: obviously sudo was needed with both of those of course
[15:53] <Guest95894> hello. ii have a hpx20led external monitor my ubuntu laptop doesnt have the resolution that fits it. how do i fix this?
[15:53] <Fredric> wiek: I can connect fine both from LAN and externally, but using the RCON command does not work. It says it cannot connect. I am not sure if it is a bug with cs:go or an ubuntu setup issue
[15:53] <Fredric> daftykins: indeed
[15:54] <badserii> I have a question. When pasting a link from reddit into facebook, facebook doesn't get the thumb image. Is it on purpose, or is facebook sabotaging reddit?
[15:55] <Es0teric> how do you create a new user via terminal with the primary group "sudo"?
[15:55] <daftykins> badserii: that couldn't be a less relevant question for this channel if you tried
[15:56] <llutz> Es0teric: read "man useradd"
[15:56] <Guest95894> hello. ii have a hpx20led external monitor my ubuntu laptop doesnt have the resolution that fits it. how do i fix this?
[15:56] <jklauburg> I cant install samba, returns an error regardless if i install through software center or through terminal, it just won't allow me to install.  heres error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7185303/  can anyone help??
[15:56] <Es0teric> llutz so i cannot do useradd -D <username> sudo ?
[15:57] <wiek> Es0teric: -Ng are your friends here
[15:57] <wiek> Es0teric: check the man
[15:58] <Fredric> daftykins: nothing printed from 'sudo iptables -X; iptables -F'
[15:58] <Fredric> sudo on the latter
[15:58] <daftykins> Fredric: yes i told you it doesn't output anything :)
[15:58] <Es0teric> i dont get it, wiek
[15:58] <Es0teric> right now i am doing useradd -D <username>
[15:58] <Es0teric> and its giving me issues..
[15:58] <Es0teric> its not allowing me to create it, it just displays the help for useradd
[15:59] <daftykins> you can't re-run useradd to change their group
[15:59] <Es0teric> daftykins the user doesnt exist yet
[16:00] <wiek> Es0teric: why are you using -D?
[16:00] <daftykins> what exactly are you trying to achieve? you were fiddling with this the other day too :P
[16:00] <Es0teric> daftykins yeah i just want to create a user with a home folder and to have the primary group of sudo
[16:00] <Es0teric> thats it
[16:00] <Togusa> did any of you guys update to the 3.11 kernel? it has broken graphics acceleration on my machine (intel graphics 4000)
[16:00] <Fredric> daftykins: but does "no rules" mean that everything is open, or do I have to set rules for certain ports to be open?
[16:00] <wiek> Es0teric: do you just want a user with sudo priv?
[16:01] <Es0teric> wiek yeah and a home folder
[16:01] <daftykins> Fredric: right now it's like the firewall is disabled. if your program can't connect it's either not running or not configured correctly
[16:01] <wiek> wiek: then you want to use visudo to edit the sudoers file. You don't need to worry about group creation.
[16:02] <Es0teric> ok so wiek if i do useradd <username> it will automatically create the defaults for that user such as home folder, bash, etc right?
[16:02] <wiek> Es0teric: -D will give you defaults, yes. Then you add that user to the sudoers file (using visudo, don't do it any other way ever)
[16:03] <llutz> Es0teric: sudo adduser username             answer the questions, then "sudo adduser username sudo "  done
[16:03] <Guest95894> hello. ii have a hpx20led external monitor my ubuntu laptop doesnt have the resolution that fits it. how do i fix this?
[16:04] <Fredric> daftykins: then my assumption is correct. There is in fact a bug in the server or client program.
[16:04] <Fredric> Thanks for the help
[16:04] <Es0teric> llutz thanks
[16:04] <daftykins> Fredric: maybe, you can check if a program is listening on its' port # by running "netstat -tuln"
[16:05] <newc0mer> guyz i would like some info about encryption , i was using default encryption from setup with auto 2 partitions , root+swap, when i try to install with many partitions (currently 5 partitions , boot , home , root , var , tmp) i only had the option to encrypt /home but not the rest partitions. can i convert boot and root partitions to encrypted so i get asked for pwd b4 it actually boots like on default encry[ted installation ? i did
[16:05] <newc0mer> google a little about it but all i found was how2do with encrypting new partitions ,not use existing ones. i should be able to do just by changing/adding the pwd on a partition or something ? is this simple 2do ? or should i reformat to using 1single partition and let it go ?
[16:05] <newc0mer> +swap actually makes it 6
[16:07] <badserii> daftykins, I mixed channels. sorry.
[16:09] <daftykins> Guest95894: hi, try installing 'arandr' it's a graphical program for setting resolutions
[16:09] <Guest95894> yes just did that how do i work it? it just brings up something that says vga
[16:09] <daftykins> no idea i've never seen it before
[16:10] <bigawuc> Made a dumb move: I closed a shell session in the middle of phpmyadmin setup. Now I have the problem of lock files preventing me from using apt-get and restarting the phpmyadmin installation. I also can not remove phpmyadmin
[16:10] <newc0mer> i have to reinstall right ?
[16:10] <bigawuc> Does anyone have experience with breaking this?
[16:10] <cfhowlett> !aptlock|bigawuc,
 yes just did that how do i work it? it just brings up something that says vga
[16:11] <newc0mer> da i know what went wrong
[16:11] <daftykins> bigawuc: Guest95894 i replied already, no need to repeat. maybe google how to use it, i have never even seen it :)
[16:11] <KyouReeUs4nfo> newc0mer:  it sounds like you are looking for full-disk encryption
[16:11] <intrelis> I have a little problem after installing Ubuntu. I have two IDE PATA drives, drive A set as master, drive B as slave. I had WinXP installed on drive B and I installed Ubuntu on drive A overwriting another distro. By default it booted into drive A, currently Ubuntu, and worked well. But after changing the boot order from A to B, all I get is a single error message "Press any key to reboot". If I do, it reboots and displays the same. All the WinXP files a
[16:11] <intrelis> re in the drive, I looked. Is it possible that the boot loader was damaged during Ubuntu installation? What if I set drive B to master instead, would that make any difference?
[16:13] <newc0mer> i figured it out :D brb in 3'
[16:13] <Beldar> intrelis, if sdb is a slave you should n ot even be able to boot from it, does not grub show a XP boot?
[16:13] <Lope> if I've got foo 2.0.0 installed (just referred to as foo by apt) and I want to downgrade to foo 1.9.0 (which I have in /var/cache/apt/archives) can I just say apt-get remove foo. dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/foo1.9.deb ?
[16:14] <ksuhku> "Unless you have opted out we will send your keystrokes to third parties including: Facebook, Twitter, BBC and Amazon." -- http://www.ubuntu.com/privacy-policy For the whole list of third parties, see http://www.ubuntu.com/privacy-policy/third-parties
[16:14] <bigawuc> root@db:/usr/bin# apt-get remove phpmyadmin Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages will be REMOVED:   phpmyadmin 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 2 not upgraded. 2 not fully installed or removed. After this operation, 15.5 MB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by
[16:14] <daftykins> !paste | bigawuc
[16:14] <bigawuc> This is not good
[16:14] <Beldar> !fud | ksuhku
[16:14] <ksuhku> Beldar, lol it's not FUD but official ubuntu policy
[16:15] <ksuhku> go read the links d00d
[16:15] <intrelis> Beldar, Grub doesn't show at all. If I select A as first boot choice, it loads Ubuntu. If I select B I get the error. No grub menu. Before I was able to boot XP from B without any issues.
[16:15] <cfhowlett> Beldar, he makes regular visits for some reason
[16:15] <llutz> ksuhku: it will be changed in 14.10 and now stop spam here
[16:15] <ksuhku> llutz, ref?
[16:15] <Beldar> intrelis, Run sudo update-grub in ubuntu
[16:16] <intrelis> On it.
[16:16] <llutz> ksuhku: only german
[16:16] <ksuhku> llutz, that will do
[16:16] <john_rambo> I did tar -zxvf filename.gz -C /usr/share to install a theme. Is it possible to undo/delete the extracted files ?
[16:16] <llutz> ksuhku: haven't read this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/03/ubuntu-make-amazon-product-results-opt-unity   but this http://www.golem.de/news/online-suche-canonical-rudert-zurueck-ein-wenig-1403-105481.html
[16:17] <llutz> ksuhku: ah well, 1st link states it too (english)
[16:17] <ksuhku> llutz, thanks, I'll take a look
[16:17] <Beldar> intrelis, If you have a XP install disc you can reload sdb's mbr.
[16:17] <llutz> ksuhku: but still, stop spamming here
[16:18] <intrelis> Beldar, how?
[16:18] <daftykins> intrelis: GRUB will be loading to load Ubuntu ;)
[16:18] <intrelis> daftykins: well, I meant there is no boto choice menu
[16:18] <daftykins> intrelis: indeed, you hold left shift at boot to see it
[16:19] <ksuhku> llutz, I'm afraid until 14.10 is out you'll be meeting me here
[16:19] <ksuhku> people deserve to know
[16:19] <daftykins> intrelis: are you controlling boot disk from the BIOS because you want to avoid having the primary disk chainload the slave Windows?
[16:19] <intrelis> daftykins: that was the idea. But apparently, it's not working.
[16:20] <Beldar> intrelis, Boot the XP disc to the repair terminal and run fixmbr    http://pcsupport.about.com/od/fixtheproblem/ht/repairmbr.htm
[16:20] <daftykins> ksuhku: either ask a support question or take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:20] <ksuhku> daftykins, I'm _providing_ support
[16:20] <evilbug> i've gotten the following errors yesterday after removing a php repo on ubuntu 12.04, any clues? http://is.gd/aCwaa5
[16:20] <daftykins> Beldar: pretty sure if you advise that it's going to nuke his ubuntu disk not the Windows one
[16:21] <Beldar> daftykins, If pointed at C it should be fine, but I wondered that myself, a slave should not be booting anyway, so the info is well...........
[16:22] <daftykins> Beldar: yeah it's a bit of a sketchy situation isn't it :S perhaps removing the master and performing the fixmbr is best
[16:22] <Beldar> daftykins, Sure feel free to pass that on. ;)
[16:22] <daftykins> roger that
[16:23] <daftykins> thought i'd check your opinion first since it was your 'case' ;)
[16:23] <Guest55668> Hi all, will 12.04.04 LTS have an update to new x
[16:23] <Beldar> hehe no biggie
[16:23] <daftykins> intrelis: pull the ubuntu drive before you do it
[16:23] <intrelis> Beldar, daftykins, ran the grub upate, rebooted with shift, but the grub menu shows only Ubuntu as an existing OS.
[16:23] <cfhowlett> Guest55668, as it has 3 more years of support, I'd guess yes
[16:24] <daftykins> intrelis: ok, power down, pull power and PATA ribbon from your master ubuntu disk, boot with XP CD and fixmbr on your windows slave, make that boot alone, then reconnect your ubuntu drive and try again
[16:24] <ksuhku> I hope ubuntu does change the privacy violating behavior. I believe it when I see it.
[16:24] <intrelis> daftykins: Ok, will report.
[16:25] <daftykins> ksuhku: you have been warned, this is NOT the channel for such discussion. either take it to offtopic or you will be removed
[16:25] <Beldar> intrelis, May be as simple as XP needing a chkdsk as well, so be careful and follow those directions first.
[16:25] <Xtremeasure> evilbug: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18762563/php-intermittently-unable-to-load-json-so-php-5-4-19-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts
[16:25] <Xtremeasure> not sure if it pertains to you
[16:25] <Xtremeasure> but give it a look
[16:26] <monoton> can I see what different (older) versions of a package that is available in the repositories?
[16:26] <Guest55668> cfhowlett, thank You a lot; Will be updates for everythingq or only critical@
[16:27] <evilbug> Xtremeasure: cheers, i'll take a look.
[16:27] <cfhowlett> Guest55668, we are GUESSING at this = I'd guess critical upgrades
[16:27] <dw1> ksuhku: it says from third parties, not to
[16:27] <monoton> like some command to get a list of available versions there is for a package
[16:28] <dw1> ksuhku: right to selected third parties nm :P
[16:28] <FourFire> Hello
[16:28] <llutz> monoton:  apt-cache policy packagename
[16:28] <Guest55668> cfhowlett, thank You again, I get it
[16:28] <Xtremeasure> monoton: http://askubuntu.com/questions/340530/how-can-i-check-the-available-version-of-a-package-in-the-repositories
[16:28] <FourFire> Can the Transmission client be used as a tracker like uTorrent?
[16:28] <monoton> ok I check
[16:29] <FourFire> I have large files, and it would take me >6000 minutes to send stuff over bluetooth
[16:30] <Xtremeasure> guys gotta reboot finally finished 1 upgrade gonna push through 11.10 next
[16:32] <nafta> hello, anyone know how could I access the virtual host I’m seeting up directly from the IP so I can start working on my sites…something like I used to do with cpanel http://my.ip.address/~site1/
[16:33] <simpleuser> Hi there. Is there a way to zoom on my screen when needed ?
[16:34] <simpleuser> A few years ago I could with compiz. Is there a way without it ?
[16:34] <intrelis> Beldar: How do I perform chkdsk if I can't access the system?
[16:34] <dw1> simpleuser: was going to suggest a compiz accessibility option i see here
[16:34] <Joel> is there a way to search ppa by version?
[16:34] <Joel> err launchpad
[16:35] <simpleuser> dw1, mmm
[16:35] <dw1> simpleuser: not enabled by default.. install compizconfig-settings-manager
[16:35] <simpleuser> dw1, I’d like to avoid to install compiz just for this…
[16:36] <intrelis> daftykins: I can't enter console, because I don't get the "repair" option...
[16:36] <praeconium> I run OS from usb stick, but I connected SSD now, how can I check if everything is well connected?
[16:36] <simpleuser> Especially because I’m using bumblebee
[16:36] <dw1> simpleuser: seem to be some options http://google.com/search?q=ubuntu+screen+magnifier
[16:36] <monoton> is there a way to find other old versions of a package? adding some other repositories with all old versions or so?
[16:36] <daftykins> intrelis: what do you mean you don't get the option? it's part of booting from the CD :)
[16:37] <Xtremeasure> Allright upgrade one went well so far
[16:37] <intrelis> daftykins: well, there is only install, create part, delete part.
[16:37] <Xtremeasure> should i just push on through to 13.04 since 12.04 drops support in april ?
[16:37] <monoton> btw, what is the meaning of "nobinonly" in package version?
[16:37] <daftykins> intrelis: you've gone too far, you're not supposed to press enter at the first screen
[16:38] <cfhowlett> Xtremeasure, 12.04 is supported until 2017
[16:38] <intrelis> daftykins: I don't remember pressing anything...
[16:38] <cfhowlett> Xtremeasure, and 13.04 is end of life
[16:38] <simpleuser> Thanks dw1 gonna search…
[16:38] <intrelis> daftykins: I never saw this screen http://pcsupport.about.com/od/fixtheproblem/ss/rconsole_3.htm
[16:39] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nafta: http://lordmatt.co.uk/item/1739/
[16:39] <daftykins> intrelis: http://icrontic.com/images/draco/articles/repairing_windows_xp_in_eight_commands/xp_src_welcome.gif
[16:39] <daftykins> intrelis: you must've done something wrong, or your disc isn't a normal XP disc
[16:39] <intrelis> daftykins: will try again.
[16:40] <daftykins> intrelis: in fairness, your entire task involves fixing a dualboot with XP, but you do know XP dies one week tomorrow, yes?
[16:40] <cfhowlett> intrelis, this ^^^
[16:40] <intrelis> daftykins: yes :) but that one old machine just can't handle win 7
[16:41] <daftykins> intrelis: right, but you shouldn't run XP at all after the 8th
[16:41] <daftykins> so you may as well keep ubuntu working and give up on XP
[16:41] <Hsic> hi to all!
[16:41] <dw1> monoton: various older packages might be found here http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[16:42] <sudormrf> serious question: how can I disable "more suggestions" in unity?  I have tried more than once in the past and not been successful.
[16:42] <Beldar> mongo says xp bad after eol
[16:42] <intrelis> Mongo?
[16:42] <Beldar> Mel Broks
[16:42] <Beldar> Brooks
[16:42] <cfhowlett> intrelis, mongo is pawn in great game of life
[16:43] <Hsic> one question, someone have tryed to aggregate multiple wan??
[16:43] <daftykins> Hsic: #networking might be better for you
[16:44] <intrelis> What's the worst thing that could happen if I do run XP?
[16:44] <Hsic> daftykins: ok thanks :)
[16:44] <Guest55668> simpleuser: http://askubuntu.com/questions/164820/default-screen-magnifier
[16:44] <FourFire> Xtremeasure, maybe use 14.04 since it will be released at the same time
[16:44] <FourFire> and 12.04 is supported until 2017
[16:44] <simpleuser> Guest55668, Year
[16:44] <simpleuser> Yeah*
[16:44] <llutz> intrelis: nothing, just don't connect it to the internet
[16:44] <hanzox5> hola buena tarde alguien que me ayude con un pequeño problema, espero alguien en habla española gracias
[16:44] <cfhowlett> intrelis, unsupported and no further security updates:   full penetration
[16:44] <simpleuser> I'm on it :)
[16:45] <cfhowlett> !es|hanzox5,
[16:45] <KyouReeUs4nfo> intrelis: clone it in Virtualbox when it is working and keep it running to find out more
[16:45] <hanzox5> ok gracias
[16:45] <intrelis> Haha, I see.
[16:45] <Beldar> intrelis, After eol you're barely protected, only by your use really, XP is more vulnerable.
[16:46] <FourFire> intrelis, script kiddies
[16:46] <dw1> routers protect OSs pretty good these days.. so that leaves what.. the web browser.. chrome should still be updated.  live dangerously >:)
[16:46] <FourFire> script kiddies, running botnets
[16:47] <simpleuser> Guest55668, dw1 : I’m trying to install this https://launchpad.net/~tobias-quinn/+archive/gsmz But I’m under XFCE and it looks that it’s installing the entire Gnome environment… XD Will see…
[16:47] <simpleuser> looks like it’s*
[16:47] <dw1> simpleuser: :/
[16:47] <dw1> simpleuser: hard drive is cheap :p
[16:47] <simpleuser> Yeah.
[16:48] <Guest55668> simpleuser: gust a sec to see
[16:48] <FourFire> so, does anyone in here know a lot about Transmission torrent client?
[16:48] <SwedeMike> !anyone | FourFire
[16:48] <FourFire> I want to know whether it can be used as a tracker like utorrent
[16:48] <cfhowlett> SwedeMike, sadly that factoid has been retired.
[16:48] <SwedeMike> cfhowlett: too bad.
[16:48] <FourFire> Trying to send large files over LAN
[16:49] <cfhowlett> FourFire, better to ask the transmission team directly.  see their help/support options
[16:49] <Pa^2> !touch | Pa^2
[16:49] <Guest55668> simpleuser: http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=7428
[16:49] <dw1> robot touching. kinky.
[16:50] <simpleuser> Guest55668, dw1 mmm… Just does nothing. I can’t access it through the console. So I think it’s integrated in Gnome… :(. I’ll restart and see if it works under Gnome
[16:50] <ciao> ciao
[16:50] <ciao> !list
[16:51] <Guest55668> simpleuser:gnome-shell-mousewheel-zoom is for gnome DM, logic not to work in XFCE
[16:51] <simpleuser> Guest55668, interesting. But i don’t have this working in xfce
[16:51] <simpleuser> Gonna check in the conf
[16:52] <Xtremeasure> lol i cant scroll in xchat anymore
[16:52] <YokoBR> galeres, quem aí é desenvolvedor web?
[16:52] <Xtremeasure> :(
[16:52] <YokoBR> sorry
[16:53] <Guest55668> simpleuser: gust a sec to see
[16:53] <Guest55668> 2
[16:54] <Guest55668> simpleuser: http://www.bensprotips.com/2011/09/running-compiz-with-xubuntu-xfce-on-natty-11-04/
[16:54] <Xtremeasure> dw1: do you know if Svetroid ever got his grub working last night
[16:54] <dw1> Xtremeasure: yep he did
[16:54] <Guest55668> simpleuser: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2208553
[16:54] <dw1> Xtremeasure: but his windows became non-geniune, dont know if he fixed that yet :p
[16:55] <Xtremeasure> dw1: thats easy to fix
[16:55] <intrelis> daftykins: thank you for your time, the CD really does not offer me that option, so I will just opt for a new install, might even listen to you guys and install a 7.
[16:55] <dw1> Xtremeasure: BCD had a grub loader thing, so we manually loaded/booted the partition.. prob many better ways to have done it
[16:55] <Guest55668> simpleuser: http://askubuntu.com/questions/164820/default-screen-magnifier
[16:55] <Xtremeasure> dw1: im wondering why he couldnt drop chroot through his live
[16:56] <dw1> Xtremeasure: update-grub and grub-install didnt take.. boot-repair tool did.. and apparently works from livecd :/
[16:56] <Xtremeasure> dw1: ahhhh i see
[16:56] <dw1> Xtremeasure: chroot didnt find ubuntu for some reason, maybe he did it wrong
[16:57] <Xtremeasure> dw1: he had to of, i dont see why he manually set partitioning he should have let the cd do its thing
[16:57] <dw1> Xtremeasure: he chrooted, and ran update-grub but update-grub didnt find ubuntu
[16:57] <dw1> Xtremeasure: his partitions were set up weird, 2 empty ones in the middle
[16:58] <Xtremeasure> dw1: yeah i figured when he tried to mount /dev/pts and it was saying it didnt exist in the drive
[16:58] <Xtremeasure> dw1: thats why i said he should have just let the cd do its magic when he installed
[16:59] <Xtremeasure> dw1: im thinking he went through and set it all manually and thats where the issue stems from, that he said it gave him a driver issue
[16:59] <Xtremeasure> so he force rebooted
[17:00] <Xtremeasure> wooohoo everything for 12.04 is downloaded
[17:00] <HateYoFace> sup fellas
[17:01] <Xtremeasure> hey whaddup
[17:02] <sqlnoob> Is there any way I can make a hidden user in ubuntu? that does not appear in passwd file? I've as of now created a user that does not have home directory
[17:02] <HateYoFace> just reinstalled ubuntu since i found working drivers for my razer nostromos and can play WoW in ubuntu
[17:02] <dw1> sqlnoob: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22006/is-there-a-way-to-create-a-hidden-account
[17:03] <Xtremeasure> haha i got the same link
[17:03] <dw1> sqlnoob: what about hiding as what looks like a system service user
[17:03] <sqlnoob> dw1: done that exactly
[17:03] <sqlnoob> I've added a user that would resemble the system user (www-data)
[17:04] <sqlnoob> but eventually some one will find it
[17:04] <HateYoFace> im excited between the steambox's coming out and nvidia finally cooperating with the linux community big name games might be coming to linux sometime this lifetime
[17:05] <Xtremeasure> anyone know if you can add gnome fall back to 13.04 unity is a bit clunky and im old hat ;)
[17:05] <cfhowlett> Xtremeasure, 13.04 is end of life.
[17:05] <dw1> sqlnoob: perusing passwd is pretty rare but possible :)
[17:05] <jklauburg> can anyone help with samba install error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7185303/
[17:06] <dw1> Xtremeasure: yep you can
[17:06] <dw1> Xtremeasure: i will prob never use unity :p
[17:06] <Guest55668> jklauburg http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=17347
[17:06] <HateYoFace> i dont mind unity to be honest
[17:06] <cfhowlett> Xtremeasure, note: ubuntu-gnome is available now
[17:07] <Guest55668> jklauburg or http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1065465.html
[17:07] <dw1> i admit i was tempted to try it recently just for fun
[17:07] <simpleuser> Guest55668, dw1 : none of these magnifiers work, even on gnome
[17:08] <simpleuser> Amazing !
[17:08] <simpleuser> ^^
[17:08] <[Gentoo]> dw1: what do you use then
[17:08] <[Gentoo]> how can you not of even tried unity
[17:08] <dw1> i tried it for about 2 seconds
[17:08] <Guest55668> simpleuser: flawless
[17:08] <Guest55668> simpleuser: sec to see
[17:09] <simpleuser> sec to see ?
[17:09] <Xtremeasure> cfhowlett: ive tried the gnome remix and still like the the classic better
[17:09] <dw1> [Gentoo]: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2013/04/no-unity-here-enable-classic-gnome-in-ubuntu-13-04/
[17:09] <cfhowlett> Xtremeasure, so long as you're happy.
[17:10] <Xtremeasure> so wait if 13.04 is eol whats the next lts after 12.04?
[17:10] <Guest55668> simpleuser: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2051318
[17:10] <Xtremeasure> because 12.04 drops support in april correct?
[17:10] <llutz> 14.04 Xtremeasure
[17:10] <Xtremeasure> thats where im heading
[17:10] <Xtremeasure> lol
[17:10] <cfhowlett> Xtremeasure, where are you getting that?  12.04 has 5 years of support
[17:11] <cfhowlett> Xtremeasure, LTS = 12.04 > 14.04
[17:11] <Guest55668> simpleuser: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Specs/XubuntuAccessibility
[17:11] <Xtremeasure> nvm i see i read the list wrong
[17:11] <abhra> Xtremeasure, 12.04 lts has 5 years of support.
[17:12] <Guest55668> simpleuser: http://magnifier.sourceforge.net/
[17:12] <Xtremeasure> cfhowlett: is 14.04 that bad?
[17:13] <chachan_> guys, I'm trying to mount a directory using bind option but changing the destiny user, I'm using this: sudo mount -o user=www-data,group=www-data --bind /home/chachan/workspace/ /var/www
[17:13] <cfhowlett> Xtremeasure, not tracking what you're saying so FACT: current LTS = 12.04.  NEXT LTS = 14.04.  12.04 has 5 years support   14.04 has 3 years of desktop support, 5 years of server support.
[17:13] <chachan_> but it's not working, it's keeping the source username as the owner
[17:13] <dw1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Table_of_versions
[17:13] <simpleuser> yeah thanks Guest55668
[17:13] <Xtremeasure> i see thank you cfhowlett
[17:14] <Guest55668> simpleuser: You wellkome
[17:17] <llutz> cfhowlett: doesn't 14.04 get 5 yrs support for desktop+server?
[17:17] <cfhowlett> llutz, nope:  3 years desktop/5 years server.
[17:17] <Guest55668> bye all, nice to met You
[17:18] <llutz> cfhowlett: ok, time to change wikipedia
[17:18] <HateYoFace> is ubuntu 14.04 worth upgrading to at this point in time?
[17:18] <cfhowlett> llutz, verify on the release wiki
[17:18] <llutz> cfhowlett: ahem, well  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS   states 5 yrs both
[17:19] <cfhowlett> HateYoFace, unreleased beta version: your choice
[17:19] <cfhowlett> llutz, could be I missed a memo then ...
[17:19] <HateYoFace> i understand its a beta but i want someone's opinion who has tried it out
[17:20] <dw1> HateYoFace: 17 days til release day
[17:20] <cfhowlett> HateYoFace, see the #ubuntu+1 channel then
[17:20] <[Gentoo]> HateYoFace: depends what you want
[17:20] <[Gentoo]> everything 14.04 has can be done in 12
[17:21] <[Gentoo]> just not automatically
[17:21] <OerHeks> 1639 opinions, better join #ubuntu+1 for 14.04 support & discussion
[17:21] <HateYoFace> i pretty much just surf the net and play world of warcraft
[17:21] <[Gentoo]> HateYoFace: you   wont gain anything probbaly
[17:24] <Xtremeasure> so eventually when we go to upgrade from 12.04 it should take us directly to 14.04 correct?
[17:25] <OerHeks> Xtremeasure, yes
[17:26] <Xtremeasure> good because pushing through 3 releases is a pain haha
[17:26] <Xtremeasure> its what im going through now
[17:28] <Flint_> I'm  trying to change resolutions, but keep getting "Failed to get size of gamma for output default", how do i fix that?
[17:29] <glitchedhacker> hi
[17:30] <[Gentoo]> hi
[17:31] <toyotapie> hi
[17:32] <toyotapie> Is there a tool like top that can tell me why the kernel is taking up so much CPU ?
[17:33] <crash1hd> hey all I created a very simple cronjob and its not working yet if I manually run it no problem? thoughts ---> */1 * * * * touch `date +%F_%H_%M_%S`.mrimg
[17:34] <Bauer> guys, I have a problem where my wireless mouse scroll wheel scrolls very fast in ubuntu after restart, until I re-plug the wireless adapter. How to fix this?
[17:34] <UdooUser> Xrandr question: I'm  trying to change resolutions, but keep getting "Failed to get size of gamma for output default", how do i fix that?
[17:34] <hggdh> crash1hd: probably you are missing environment variables. Where did you want the file to be created?
[17:35] <jhutchins_wk> crash1hd: Make sure everything has full paths.
[17:35] <crash1hd> hggdh, ahh correct doh gonna go look at my root probably quite full
[17:35] <llutz> crash1hd: try using /usr/bin/touch
[17:35] <OerHeks> toyotapie, htop might be easier,  sudo apt-get install htop
[17:36] <Guest90765> So I have a machine that has ubuntu 12.04 installed on it, but with the partitioning not the way I'd like. It's currently it's two disks, with partitions scattered all over the place. I'd like to have it set up with LVM + RAID 1 between the two disks. Any way to make that change without physical access KVMoIP?
[17:37] <OerHeks> Guest90765, i think you need to reinstall, to deploy lvm
[17:39] <Guest90765> OerHeks: Wondering if it would be possible to setup a new install of ubuntu, with LVM on the other disk
[17:41] <toyotapie> Thanks OerHeks
[17:44] <Bauer> guys, I have a problem where my wireless mouse scroll wheel scrolls very fast in ubuntu after restart, until I re-plug the wireless adapter. How to fix this?
[17:45] <Bauer> OerHeks: I think I recall you guessed this was a hardware issue and not ubuntu, right?
[17:45] <mistawright> is there a way to install gnome 3.12 on ubuntu I have been dying to try out this latest release of gnome
[17:46] <dw1> simpleuser: http://sourceforge.net/projects/magnifier/ ? :)
[17:49] <darkangel> How do u get ur own website going Under Ubuntu built in Apache web server?
[17:49] <dw1> simpleuser: "In xfce 4.12 you can just press Alt+wheel mouse to zoom in and out." finding these from http://google.com/search?q=xfce+screen+magnifier
[17:54] <Xtremeasure> man this upgrade stuff takes forever lol
[17:54] <lethjakman> is LC_CTYPE the same as the locale?
[17:55] <ldlework> I'm getting intermittent 404's when doing apt-get update
[17:55] <ldlework> 404 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/perl/perl_5.14.2-6ubuntu2.3_amd64.deb
[17:55] <kingplusplus> hi guys
[17:55] <lethjakman> how do I see what my locale is? I need it to be utf8 for postgres.
[17:55] <Bauer> guys, I have a problem where my wireless mouse scroll wheel scrolls very fast in ubuntu after restart, until I re-plug the wireless adapter. How to fix this?
[17:55] <kingplusplus> how do i open an application terminal
[17:56] <ldlework> Is there a problem with ubuntu packages today? https://gist.github.com/dustinlacewell/294ef4dbe98ab90f3a9f
[17:57] <kingplusplus> how do i open an application from terminal so i can still use same terminal for other commands, because it seems when you open application or file from terminal the window is not usable
[17:57] <llutz> kingplusplus: app &
[17:57] <kingplusplus> llutz, thanks that great
[17:58] <hanzox5> #ubuntu-es:
[17:58] <hanzox5> #ubuntu-es
[18:01] <phpNoob> hi guys, I want to download ubuntu for the first time but dont know which option to choose "For extended support" or "For the latest features"
[18:02] <phpNoob> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[18:02] <crash1hd> hggdh, hmm odd still doesnt work updated it with full paths
[18:02] <HateYoFace> im runnin 13.10 64 bit seems pretty stable to me
[18:02] <hanzox5> por favor me aydudan para ir al char en español gracias de antemano
[18:02] <DJones> !es | hanzox5
[18:02] <dw1> Bauer: seems to be a bug with some mice.  there is a script here that is supposed to fix it https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/9200  #46
[18:03] <crash1hd> Very simple cronjob and its not working yet if I manually run it no problem? thoughts ---> */1 * * * * /usr/bin/touch ~/Desktop/`date +%F_%H_%M_%S`.mrimg
[18:03] <hanzox5> muchas gracias
[18:03] <llutz> crash1hd: does it work if you use /home/username/Desktop ?
[18:03] <crash1hd> no
[18:04] <crash1hd> it does work on bash shell prompt manually though
[18:04] <ldlework> Can anyone ping archive.ubuntu.org ?
[18:04] <ldlework> 147.83.195.55
[18:04] <ldlework> Is down for me
[18:04] <crash1hd> ldlework, http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ <-- try there
[18:05] <ldlework> crash1hd: err well I'm asking since, it probably matters that its brought to the attention of others
[18:05] <crash1hd> ahh ok :)
[18:06] <ldlework> I guess you just can't ping it
[18:07] <trism> ldlework: you need to run: sudo apt-get update; first, those packages have been superceded (at least the python2.7 one, which is now 2.7.3-0ubuntu3.5)
[18:07] <ldlework> I see
[18:07] <ldlework> hmm I am running update
[18:12] <phpNoob> Hi guys i want to install ubuntu. I already downloaded it from the website and create a partition of 20GB for it. do i still need to download universal USB installer? as shown on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[18:12] <Ziber> What would be an easy way to delete all files other than ones that match a specific wildcard?
[18:13] <llutz> Ziber: find path/ -not -iname '*wildcard*' -delete
[18:13] <Ziber> Is there an easy way to do that?
[18:13] <Ziber> Ahhh. Hm.
[18:13] <Ziber> Not familiar with find much.
[18:13] <llutz> Ziber: test without -delete before to be sure
[18:14] <Ziber> Of course.
[18:14] <aLeSD> hi all
[18:14] <aLeSD> is it possible to create a bootable OSX from ubuntu ?
[18:15] <Ziber> Rather than wildcard, I know the exact names I don't want deleted. Is there a non-wildcard way to do that?
[18:16] <phpNoob> i downloaded the lastest Ubuntu version which is 13.10. I have just downloaded Universal USB installer 1.9.5.2 as shown on http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/linux/3351312/how-install-ubuntu-using-usb-flash-drive/
[18:16] <phpNoob> but i cant find "UBUNTU 13.10" on the dropdown list
[18:17] <Guest8176> hi i m getting error while installing draftsight
[18:18] <Guest8176> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of draftsight:i386:
[18:18] <Guest8176>  draftsight:i386 depends on xdg-utils.
[18:18] <Guest8176> dpkg: error processing draftsight:i386 (--install):
[18:18] <Guest8176>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[18:18] <Guest8176> Errors were encountered while processing:
[18:18] <unopaste> Guest8176 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:18] <Ziber> It's deleting "." That's interesting.
[18:18] <Bauer> dw1: where is the xorg.conf in ubuntu? all I find is /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe and it does not include an "InputDevice" section
[18:19] <llutz> Ziber: add  "-type f"
[18:19] <dw1> Bauer: thats not the fix.. #46
[18:20] <phpNoob> i downloaded the lastest Ubuntu version which is 13.10. I have just downloaded Universal USB installer 1.9.5.2 as shown on http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/linux/3351312/how-install-ubuntu-using-usb-flash-drive/
[18:20] <Bauer> ohh, sorry missed the #46 reference :)
[18:20] <phpNoob> but i cant find "UBUNTU 13.10" on the dropdown list
[18:20] <Guest8176> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7186123/
[18:20] <phpNoob> if you just download it into a usb and boot from usb will that work? or do i need to do anything else
[18:20] <dw1> Bauer: for future reference, if you want a custom xorg.conf it has to be generated then you can edit it. http://askubuntu.com/questions/4662/where-is-the-x-org-config-file-how-do-i-configure-x-there
[18:22] <Guest8176> when i m installing draftsight in ubuntu12.04 64 bit, getting error which is pasted in http://paste.ubuntu.com/7186123/    please help
[18:22] <Ziber> Thanks!
[18:23] <toyotapie> According to ATI/AMD, the drivers for my graphics card only go to Xorg 6.9, xserver 1.12 and kernel 3.4. But both Ubuntu 14.04 and 12.04 use later kernel and x versions. I can't stay on Ubuntu 10.04 and can't afford a new laptop. What do I do?
[18:23] <toyotapie> also, the open source driver for my card makes my computer overheat
[18:24] <Guest8176> toyotapie, ubuntu12.04 works fine. i also had same prob with 13.10 but in 12.04 u can use fglrx drivers
[18:24] <toyotapie> yea, the fglrx driver with Ubuntu 12.04 no longer supports my card.
[18:26] <toyotapie> I have  radeon hd 3600series ( RV635 )
[18:26] <Guest8176> toyotapie, in 12.04 latest release its not support. 12.04.1 is supported as in newer relase kernel is updated. better stuck with 12.04 or 12.04.1
[18:27] <toyotapie> I think I'll have to install an older kernel and older xserver with my Ubuntu and deal with whatever issues I have.
[18:27] <Guest8176> yes. u have to downgrade kernel
[18:29] <toyotapie> fun :)
[18:29] <toyotapie> I left Gentoo because I was tired of compiling things, oh the irony
[18:29] <toyotapie> !
[18:29] <Bauer> thanks dw1 ! that works, but I fear its not an idea solution... this means that in the future, I would have to *remember* to install this resetmsmouse package, on every new linux installation... its a workaround, not a solution
[18:29] <dw1> Bauer: yep
[18:30] <toyotapie> I think I'll start my own PPA with blackjack and hookers!
[18:31] <Bauer> dw1: then why was the original thread on xorg marked as fixed?
[18:31] <dw1> Bauer: i think the software guys blame the hardware :) so dont know if it will ever be fixed
[18:31] <Bauer> dw1: thats unlikely, those new smooth scroll mices are only getting more popular
[18:32] <dw1> Bauer: not 100% sure about the cause.  perhaps it can be fixed in the driver.  til then, i like to keep a list of tweaks for every system i configure in a google doc
[18:33] <Guest8176> when i m installing draftsight in ubuntu12.04 64 bit, getting error which is pasted in http://paste.ubuntu.com/7186123/    please help
[18:33] <dw1> Bauer: so i dont forget such things
[18:34] <Bauer>  dw1: hmm, good idea.. I no better method  than google docs?
[18:34] <dw1> Bauer: dropbox text file? i like something on the cloud
[18:35] <Bauer> dw1:: or perhaps evernote will do then :) its more note-taking oriented than a document, which seems not natural for notes :)
[18:37] <logical> hey guys is there a windows like task manager
[18:37] <dw1> Bauer: might want to add yourself as an "affected user" at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/971321 so it might one day be fixed
[18:38] <dw1> Bauer: also i think the latest code is at sourceforge not github
[18:38] <Bauer> thanks dw1! subbed to this, will try to push for a software resolution to this. Yup I got it from sourceforge, lucky me :)
[18:44] <Bauer> dw1: in the last post in the bug report, there is  a diff file with patch - do you have any idea how to use those? just curious, I need to learn to patch and compile kernels some day...
[18:45] <dw1> Bauer: nope :(
[18:47] <o------> hi
[18:48] <o------> how do i enable java in chromiume
[18:48] <streulma> hello, bluetooth works on 3.14 kernel which is 14.04. Should I run 13.10 for the moment without bluetooth or change to 14.04, or wait for the release?
[18:49] <got_ar_> I have just downloaded ubuntu 13.10 to my USB and have also created a 100GB partition for it. Do i need to do anything else apart from those 2 steps? before i try booting from the usb?
[18:49] <o------> ,,
[18:49] <geirha> o------: open the software center and search for icedtea
[18:50] <o------> i did noithing
[18:50] <o------> i went to addin:plugins and checked the box nothing
[18:50] <geirha> IcedTea is the name of the java browser plugin
[18:51] <geirha> once you install it in ubuntu, chrome will see it and use it
[18:51] <o------> i know but when i installed it and went back to the site jaav did not work
[18:52] <o------> it sill dont work
[18:52] <o------> nbuntu is the worst  im done
[18:53] <o------> going to somthing easier i think im going to windows again
[18:53] <Johnny_Linux> ok
[18:54] <o------> java will not install in chrome
[18:54] <o------> i cant play games online
[18:54] <o------> always get ignored in chat rooms
[18:54] <o------> ek
[18:55] <streulma> o------ use Chrome and not Chromium ?
[18:55] <o------> i was using blue
[18:55] <willwh> o------: you probably get ignored a lot because you don't provide much context, or information
[18:55] <willwh> particularly a pastebin of errors, or, you know, something other than "it doesn't work"
[18:55] <o------> it becuase of my lettering
[18:55] <willwh> generally, if you want help, you need to do the leg work
[18:56] <willwh> provide context
[18:56] <streulma> do you think Canonical have a party every time they release a new Ubuntu version?
[18:56] <got_ar_> I have just downloaded ubuntu 13.10 to my USB and have also created a 100GB partition for it. Do i need to do anything else apart from those 2 steps? before i try booting from the usb?
[18:56] <willwh> got_ar_: yes
[18:56] <o------> you all have different colors of lettering i have is gray
[18:56] <willwh> when you say "you downloaded to usb"
[18:56] <got_ar_> willwh what do i need to do?
[18:56] <willwh> did you make an image
[18:57] <o------> why do my letters come out gray
[18:57] <a1rbornkms> Hello people
[18:57] <willwh> I'm out for lunch
[18:57] <got_ar_> willwh http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?release=latest&bits=64&distro=desktop&status=zeroc i choose to save it on my F drive which is my USB drive
[18:57] <willwh> got_ar_: are you in windows atm?
[18:57] <got_ar_> willwh yes sir
[18:57] <willwh> got_ar_: yeah, but that is just an ISO
[18:57] <streulma> hi, my bluetooth isn't in the kernel for now and works only with trusty kernel 3.14. Should I wait for the release? Or upgrade to 14.04 now? Or stay at stable 13.10?
[18:57] <willwh> got_ar_: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[18:57] <got_ar_> willwh what do i do next please
[18:58] <dw1> o------: its your irc client doing that #xchat right
[18:58] <dw1> o------: /join #xchat
[18:58] <o------> i sick and tyrexd opf talking in gray howe do i change my clors
[18:58] <Pici> o------: this channel doesn't support colored text.
[18:58] <HateYoFace> people still use bluetooth?
[18:59] <llutz> o------: http://xchat.org/docs/
[18:59] <got_ar_> willwh i want to install it so i can run windows and ubuntu. Who that software make it so i can only run ubuntu with a pen drive?
[18:59] <o------> how come you all are comming up  different colors when you all type
[18:59] <got_ar_> willwh wouldn't that software make it so i can only run ubuntu with a pen drive?
[19:00] <dw1> o------: irc is really all black and white but your irc program xchat colors things for you
[19:00] <craigbass1976> o------, if someone is typing directly to you it's red
[19:00] <o------> ok
[19:00] <willwh> got_ar_: no
[19:00] <willwh> got_ar_: do some research
[19:00] <willwh> I'm out o/
[19:00] <craigbass1976> o------, otherwise it's just black.  Comings and goings are blue and brown.  That's my default scheme for xchat anyway
[19:01] <o------> how do i fix java in chromiume
[19:01] <o------> java still not workin
[19:01] <craigbass1976> If someone emailed me a pdf job application, what's the best way to fill it out without printing anything?
[19:02] <dw1> craigbass1976: flpsed
[19:02] <craigbass1976> o------, javascript, or the java runttime environment?
[19:02] <o------> what everione i used i dont know what i used
[19:02] <dw1> craigbass1976: http://www.ecademix.com/JohannesHofmann/flpsed.html
[19:02] <awesomess3> I was using my Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and I looked at open ports `netstat -tapd` and vsftpd was running for no reason. I restart my machine and vsftpd was not running. Why was it running?! hackers!! D:
[19:03] <dw1> craigbass1976: had to install a few deps to compile it .. and was some error compiling 0.7.2 so i used 0.7.1.  an older version is in ubuntu repos
[19:03] <dw1> craigbass1976: but the older seems to be about the same anyway
[19:03] <dw1> craigbass1976: so perhaps just apt-get install flpsed :)
[19:03] <o------> i dont know i will delete icetea and re download it
[19:05] <itsthatguy> Hey. I've been searching for a solution for this off and on for weeks. I think I've hit my limit of "DIY"... when I use vnc to connect to my ubuntu machine, the local machine (which is attached to a monitor) does not show the actual mouse cursor. The remote shows it fine. I'm using vino-server. Does anyone have any ideas on this?
[19:06] <itsthatguy> I would love to be able to see the mouse cursor, I use the vnc for a trackpad on a touch-screen device, but don't project the screen.
[19:06] <dw1> craigbass1976: you can also import PDF to layers in GIMP, and use this .mng trick to get a multi-page PDF out of the deal. http://registry.gimp.org/node/25400
[19:06] <dw1> craigbass1976: but in my exp GIMP messes up the quality
[19:09] <craigbass1976> dw1, I'm hoping apt and flpsed works; I've done the GIMP route, but this is for a girl who would probably not do well with it.
[19:09] <trism> itsthatguy: don't know what client you are using but xvnc4viewer at least has an option to render the cursor locally in the f8 option menu
[19:10] <ubunter> Hello
[19:10] <itsthatguy> trism: by locally, do you mean on the actual ubuntu machine, and not on the client?
[19:10] <ubunter> Does anyone have experience PXE booting Ubuntu from Ubuntu Server
[19:11] <ubunter> Does anyone have experience PXE booting Ubuntu from Ubuntu Server?
[19:11] <studious> Hit F12
[19:11] <craigbass1976> dw1, flpsed looks good.  No way to select or edit text after it's entered?
[19:12] <trism> itsthatguy: the opposite I suppose, I guess I'm not really sure what you're asking about
[19:12] <dw1> craigbass1976: click near the beginning of the text to select/move/edit
[19:13] <dw1> craigbass1976: can also move with arrow keys
[19:13] <Wayward_Vagabond> So, my graphics are currently messed up after a program crashed while starting and I've no idea how to fix them
[19:13] <itsthatguy> trism: I'm asking the opposite. my vnc client doesn't display the remote screen, it only provides and interface for a keyboard and mouse (on ipad). The ubuntu box is hooked up to a projector. I would like to control the ubuntu box from an ipad. the mouse cursor doesn't display on the projector screen, that is projecting the desktop of the actual ubuntu display.
[19:14] <Wayward_Vagabond> there's a low resolution 4:3 image scaled up to fit the height of my screen, with black boxes on either side
[19:14] <Wayward_Vagabond> Going to the nividia settings and forcing the resolution back to 1600x900 just shows the top corner of the mage in the same area; any ideas how to fix it?
[19:14] <craigbass1976> dw1, Ahh, I was just missing when I tried to click it.
[19:14] <ubunter> I have an issue where after my pxe boot installation is complete I have no internet. My 12.04 ubuntu server, is configured as a DNS and DHCP server yet I have not internet access after pxe boot installation is complete but I dont know why. Any ideas?
[19:14] <dw1> craigbass1976: yeah it has to be near the beginning
[19:15] <craigbass1976> dw1, whatever the mouse version of fat-fingering is...
[19:15] <dw1> craigbass1976: i actually compiled the newer version because i forgot that
[19:16] <ubunter> I have an issue where after my pxe boot installation is complete I have no internet. My 12.04 ubuntu server, is configured as a DNS and DHCP server yet I have not internet access after pxe boot installation is complete but I dont know why. Any ideas?
[19:17] <got_ar_> hi i created a partition before trying to install ubuntu  on my laptop. I got 3 options install only windows 7, replace windows 7 or along something else. If i choose "install only windows 7" will this automatically use my 100GB partation which i created? or should i choose "something else" and choose that partition space?
[19:18] <trism> itsthatguy: oh if you are running the client from your ipad then you probably can't use xvnc4viewer
[19:18] <itsthatguy> i never said I was
[19:19] <itsthatguy> lol
[19:19] <itsthatguy> I think there's some confusion here
[19:19] <ubunter> I have an issue where after my pxe boot installation is complete I have no internet. My 12.04 ubuntu server, is configured as a DNS and DHCP server yet I have not internet access after pxe boot installation is complete but I dont know why. Any ideas?
[19:19] <itsthatguy> trism: i want mouse cursor on real computer, not on vnc client
[19:19] <Wayward_Vagabond> According to a screenshot, my graphics are rendering as 1024x768 scaled to 1200x900 by the screen
[19:20] <o------> why can i get  java to work in my chrome
[19:20] <trism> itsthatguy: so really nothing to do with vnc, you want to show the mouse on the projected display?
[19:21] <itsthatguy> trism: no. it has everything to do with vnc. when connected with a mouse an keyboard, directly, the mouse works fine. when connected through VNC, it does not.
[19:21] <o------> why dose thing haft to so hard in linux
[19:21] <ubunter> I have an issue where after my pxe boot installation is complete I have no internet. My 12.04 ubuntu server, is configured as a DNS and DHCP server yet I have not internet access after pxe boot installation is complete but I dont know why. Any ideas?
[19:22] <o------> why cant i get my java to show up in chrome
[19:22] <ubunter> I have an issue where after my pxe boot installation is complete I have no internet. My 12.04 ubuntu server, is configured as a DNS and DHCP server yet I have not internet access after pxe boot installation is complete but I dont know why. Any ideas?
[19:22] <o------> fuck unbuntu
[19:23] <o------> windows is better
[19:23] <andrej> I have a custom-program that depends on postgres being up& running.  How do I get it to restart after postgres receives an update?
[19:23] <o------> go with windows andrej
[19:23] <o------> so much eaiser
[19:23] <andrej> sure
[19:24] <o------> dont ever use ubuntu again
[19:24] <andrej> i just re-installed Windows7 on an alienware PC
[19:24] <o------> you got windows 7
[19:24] <andrej> no graphics, no network
[19:24] <andrej> so easy
[19:24] <andrej> go away
[19:24] <Wayward_Vagabond> o------: You should be asking in the channel for chrome, not here
[19:25] <brontosaurusrex> o------, how did you install java?
[19:25] <ubunter> I have an issue where after my pxe boot installation is complete I have no internet. My 12.04 ubuntu server, is configured as a DNS and DHCP server yet I have not internet access after pxe boot installation is complete but I dont know why. Any ideas?
[19:26] <faflo123> Hi
[19:27] <ubunter> I have an issue where after my pxe boot installation is complete I have no internet. My 12.04 ubuntu server, is configured as a DNS and DHCP server yet I have not internet access after pxe boot installation is complete but I dont know why. Any ideas?
[19:27] <dw1> o------: google everything to learn faster
[19:27] <o------> when i went to the  software center i downloaed the icetea  java web start
[19:28] <o------> it not showing up in rome
[19:28] <dw1> o------: you said chromium.  chrome or chromium?
[19:28] <dw1> o------: two diff things :(
[19:28] <brontosaurusrex> o------, java -version < says something?
[19:29] <o------> chroit dose not say
[19:29] <ubunter> I have an issue where after my pxe boot installation is complete I have no internet. My 12.04 ubuntu server, is configured as a DNS and DHCP server yet I have not internet access after pxe boot installation is complete but I dont know why. Any ideas?
[19:30] <o------> it dose not say a verision
[19:30] <trism> itsthatguy: ahh alright, sorry, I'm not really sure, I did recently have a problem where the mouse cursor was disappearing with my x11vnc/xvnc4viewer combo but it isn't doing it today (I think it was happening when I was messing around with steam)
[19:30] <bekks> ubunter: check ip settings, gateway, routing and nameservers. After you checked cabling.
[19:30] <vires_1> hello i tried connecting to a vpn using openvpn curl in the terminal but what i get is ip address loading failed pls any solutions to it?
[19:30] <o------> i guessing 7
[19:31] <ubunter> yes everything is good on my server
[19:31] <bekks> ubunter: then internet would work :)
[19:32] <o------> i dont know how you peole can stand using ubuntu
[19:32] <[Gentoo]> why are you here
[19:32] <[Gentoo]> moaning
[19:32] <brontosaurusrex> o------, i think this is a 5 minute trick, but i'am not sharing it with you
[19:33] <brontosaurusrex> i mean 1 minute trick
[19:33] <bekks> ubunter: keep it in the channel please.
[19:33] <o------> what trick
[19:33] <o------> so you not going to help me
[19:34] <o------> what th trick
[19:34] <brontosaurusrex> my mouth are closed, see :X
[19:34] <ubunter>  Do i have to turn my ubuntu server into a DNS server using bind9 in order for pxe installation to be completed successfully and have internet?
[19:34] <o------> fc yu then
[19:34] <brontosaurusrex> :X
[19:34] <bekks> !language | o------
[19:35] <o------> if this guy stops being a ass i will
[19:35] <ubunter> I have noticed that my "iface eth0 inet dhcp" changes to "iface eth0 inet manual" on my client afer installation is complete
[19:35] <bekks> ubunter: No. You dont need to run a DNS server for successfully accessing the internet.
[19:35] <vires_1> pls can i get help on ip loading failed when i connect to a vpn?
[19:36] <o------> i come in here for help you all dont know nothing about ubuntu
[19:36] <bekks> o------: then ask a specific support question instead of continuing to rant.
[19:37] <o------> well i did if you were paying attenchion
[19:37] <HateYoFace> you know nothing about the english language  lol
[19:37] <ubunter> is there a tutorial that you would recomend to seeting up a pxe boot ubuntu server I have working on this issue for weeks with no success in having internet access after installation is complete
[19:37] <o------> why is java not working in chrome
[19:37] <bekks> ubunter: All you have to do is configuring the ip settings - which you did not clarified yet.
[19:38] <bekks> !java | o------
[19:38] <ubunter> what do you mean configuring ip settings you mean in the preseed file or after installation is complete?
[19:39] <o------> here i did go to plugin and checked the box nothing happened i justdeleted java and tryed to reinstall it again and it dont show up in the add   ons
[19:39] <bekks> ubunter: you did not tell us any details until now, on how you actually configured your target server.
[19:39] <bekks> o------: Did you follow the link given?
[19:40] <o------> then what do i do now
[19:40] <o------> e
[19:40] <bekks> o------: Did you follow the link given?
[19:40] <ubunter> oh you mean my ubuntu dhcp server? like this for my dhcpd.conf allow booting; allow bootp;     default-lease-time 600;     max-lease-time 7200;      option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;     option broadcast-address 192.168.0.255;     option routers 192.168.0.1;     option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.15;     option domain-name "ubuntu.local"; next-server 192.168.0.15; filename "pxelinux.0";     subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 
[19:40] <bekks> !pastebin | ubunter
[19:41] <o------> i dont know what  to do in the link
[19:41] <bekks> o------: Read it?
[19:41] <Pici> o------: what part is confusing you?
[19:41] <leslie_> Hellotók van itt valaki aki Magyar ?
[19:41] <ubunter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7186499/
[19:41] <welch_> what
[19:41] <Pici> !hu | leslie_
[19:41] <welch_> i am new to linus i need help.
[19:41] <welch_> linux
[19:42] <ubunter> is there a flaw in my .conf file?
[19:42] <bekks> ubunter: thats the bootp configuration for pxe. How is your installed server configured?
[19:42] <leslie_> Köszönöm a segitséget
[19:42] <leslie_> ubottu te magyar vagy ?
[19:43] <ubunter> what do you mean how is it configured? you mean like my interfaces file?
[19:43] <bekks> ubunter: Yes.
[19:43] <ubunter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7186513/
[19:43] <o------> what do i do after i installed it from the site
[19:44] <Pici> o------: which  package did you install?
[19:44] <fredrik_> I made a samba fileshare that have a guest read-only setting AND a read/write access for my own account (fredrik). How can I connect to this share in nautilus with my account. When I browse network it automaticaly choose the guest logon
[19:45] <ubunter> are my interfaces file need of changing?
[19:46] <o------> what ever said linux
[19:46] <o------> at java .com
[19:46] <bekks> o------: the link clearly told you what to do. it was your choice between JDK and JRE. so what did you choose?
[19:47] <o------> jdk and jre mean
[19:47] <bekks> o------: did you install both?
[19:47] <father> hello all
[19:47] <o------> do i need to install both
[19:47] <bekks> o------: No. You need to choose.
[19:47] <o------> but what one do i chose
[19:48] <bekks> o------: The one you need.
[19:48] <o------> i dont know what one i nee
[19:48] <bekks> then choose the openjdk, which will most likely work perfectly for you.
[19:48] <father> I was hoping for some advise, in this computer I have only Ubuntu installed and still I have boot problems. I have to enter recovery mode rewrite grub and then it boots OK. but this happen every time. I have the boot log ut I don't really see the problem
[19:48] <o------> im going to delete java again
[19:49] <bekks> o------: which java?
[19:49] <Pici> o------: the icedtea-7-plugin package should provide the Java plugin for your browser.
[19:50] <mzaza> I have installed nvidia binary drivers, and since I did the Ubuntu did start the lightdm but never passed it, after I login I just get a blank screen. I tried removing the drivers I installed, then used sudo apt-get autoremove to remove unnecssary packages and I still I have the same problem.
[19:50] <mzaza> However the mouse pointer seems visible, but I have blank black screen
[19:50] <o------> how do i delete java
[19:51] <o------> i wantto  delete java
[19:51] <bekks> o------: you said you deleted java before - how did you do that? And how did you install java before?
[19:51] <o------> SOME SITE I FOUND
[19:51] <o------> SOM SITE I FOUND
[19:51] <bekks> o------: we can read lowercase too.
[19:52] <ubunter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7186513/
[19:52] <mzaza> o------: and please, stop saying every sentence twice
[19:52] <bekks> o------: So how did you install java before?
[19:52] <fredrik_> I made a samba fileshare that have a guest read-only setting AND a read/write access for my own account (fredrik). How can I connect to this share in nautilus with my account. When I browse network it automaticaly choose the guest logon
[19:53] <mzaza> Any one here with experience with Nvidia property drivers? I ran into sum issues and can't get Unity to work.
[19:55] <brontosaurusrex> fredrik_, smb://user@sharename/folder ?
[19:55] <ubunter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7186513/ does my interfaces need fix?
[19:58] <fredrik_> BroadcastStorm, Thanks!
[19:58] <fredrik_> brontosaurusrex, Works like a charm!
[19:59] <o------> sudo apt-get remove openjdk-6-jre default-jre default-jre-headless is what i typed in the terminal
[20:00] <mzaza> I have installed nvidia drivers, caused problems so I purged them and tried autoremove for uncessary packages and I'm still facing some problems with getting Unity start, however lightdm starts with no problems, any ideaas?
[20:01] <mzaza> !gnome shell
[20:02] <mzaza> What is the name of the Ubuntu distribution which uses gnome shell?
[20:02] <[Gentoo]> mzaza: what GPU?
[20:02] <[Gentoo]> maybe unity fails to start if you use a 4 series ir similar
[20:03] <[Gentoo]> because the kernel driver (nouveau) lacks proper accel for them cards
[20:03] <Wayward_Vagabond> Would restarting X do any good?
[20:03] <Pici> o------: can you try installing the icedtea-7-plugin package? sudo apt-get install icedtea-7-plugin
[20:03] <mzaza> [Gentoo]: Hybrid Graphics card Inel 3rd generation and Nvidia GFore GT 600
[20:03] <Wayward_Vagabond> My graphics are stuck in 1024x768, scaled to 1200x900
[20:03] <[Gentoo]> mzaza: ah i have no experience with them hybrid ones
[20:03] <Wayward_Vagabond> instead of being at the native 1600x900
[20:04] <ubunter> bekks
[20:04] <mzaza> [Gentoo]: Ouch! At first I read it I have exp. with hybrid ones :D
[20:04] <[Gentoo]> sorry lol
[20:05] <Wayward_Vagabond> a ttyl still looks like it should
[20:05] <[Gentoo]> not sure on the drivers / programs for them
[20:05] <[Gentoo]> i know they are more problematic than standard video card
[20:05] <[Gentoo]> going by the amount of people who moan about them on irc
[20:05] <[Gentoo]> :)
[20:05] <mzaza> [Gentoo]: I even tried installing gnome-shell and still no luck it seems the problem has nothing to do with unity, it's strange though that lightdm starts fine
[20:06] <[Gentoo]> what problems did installing nvidia-drivers cause?
[20:06] <[Gentoo]> and is there a bios option to use nvidia only?
[20:07] <mzaza> [Gentoo]: Never explored that option, I could reboot and check out if u think that will help
[20:07] <[Gentoo]> ok, but if there is dont forget itll use more power
[20:07] <[Gentoo]> to use the full gpu
[20:07] <kupo_> Will all current themes that work on 13.10 work on 14.04?
[20:08] <mikodo> Hi, Quick question, can one burn a new DVD of Ubuntu with just a live CD of Xubuntu 12.04, with no OS on new internal disks? (Desktop)
[20:08] <mzaza> [Gentoo]: I just want to get the interface back on
[20:08] <[Gentoo]> mikodo: yes
[20:08] <mikodo> [Gentoo], Thanks
[20:09] <mzaza> [Gentoo]: I'll go reboot now
[20:10] <kupo_> nobody has had any theme /icon issues with update to 14.04?
[20:10] <EagleScreen> KyouReeUs4nfo: thanks I fixed the lid switch issue on the server
[20:10] <[Gentoo]> kupo_: i guess they would work fine
[20:10] <o------> i don know what verision of java i downloaded'
[20:10] <[Gentoo]> kupo_: you mean gtk themes etc?
[20:10] <gabmus> hello everyone
[20:10] <kupo_> yes. like if i were using numix/simplix
[20:11] <[Gentoo]> yeah
[20:11] <o------> im going back to windows is better than ubunu
[20:11] <KyouReeUs4nfo> EagleScreen: np
[20:12] <o------> why is ubuntu so much harder to use than ubuntu
[20:12] <gabmus> do you have suggestions for good video editors for gnu/linux? i have tried openshot, cinelerra, blender, lightworks and i'm currently using kdenlive, but i am not satisfied by any of these. are there any others worth trying? (except nuke)
[20:12] <kupo_> ubuntu harder than ubuntu?
[20:12] <o------> windiows is easier to use
[20:12] <bekks> o------: because you have to learn how to use it.
[20:13] <o------> buch of bs in windows i dont hft to inst and uninstall commna d
[20:13] <kupo_> ubuntt is pretty simple. just dont rush everything. it's how i got alright with it.
[20:13] <o------> my butt
[20:13] <o------> it nnot
[20:13] <kupo_> still noob though. only been using a few months. you could try mint. i think it's easier for window users
[20:13] <EagleScreen> o------: but living with Ubuntu (or GNU/Linux) is funny
[20:13] <o------> punching command to in stall and uninstall
[20:13] <bekks> o------: can you please at least try to write in a way others can read you?
[20:14] <gabmus> o------: windows is a pain in the bum to use: i can't get things done without monthly slowdowns. cannot even do video editing on it using professional software, since the system is unusable
[20:14] <kupo_> installing is simple and yo uknow what you're actually installing with linux
[20:14] <o------> what ever all you do is click and save
[20:14] <o------> do you do that in here no
[20:14] <kupo_> try out synpatic package manager
[20:14] <gabmus> kupo_: or just tell him to stick to the software center.
[20:14] <kupo_> yes. or that
[20:15] <o------> the day i dont haft to type a command in in is the day i use iut
[20:15] <joh_878> hi guys I am trying install ubuntu 13.10 from usb. everytime I choose install inside window 7. its restart my pc. why is that?
[20:15] <gabmus> o------: i don't know what autistic distro you are talking about but ubuntu is so easy a kid could use it. litterally, my cousin in 6 and uses it to watch my little pony and toy story scenes on youtube.
[20:15] <SuperLag> Is there a channel for installing Ubuntu on Mac hardware?
[20:15] <Forkz> gabmus, I have seen some use Blender for video-editing, but it depends on what you want to use it for
[20:15] <o------> tell is their a verision that i dont haft to command install
[20:15] <EagleScreen> o------: you don't really need to type commands nowadays to do something
[20:15] <o------> im talking ubuntu it sucks
[20:16] <kupo_> just go back to windows man
[20:16] <kupo_> it's not for you.
[20:16] <o------> ub untu a peice of shit
[20:16] <guntbert> o------: please back to support
[20:16] <Shutterstrom> anyone here with experience of program called "fail2ban"?
[20:16] <EagleScreen> o------: you also sucks talking us in that way
[20:16] <Forkz> Dont feed the troll :)
[20:16] <gabmus> Forkz: blender has video editing features, but are meant to manage the timeline of 3d videos. it is useful to make simple 2d animations too tho
[20:16] <guntbert> EagleScreen: leave him alone please
[20:16] <joh_878> why does my pc restart when I choose install inside windows 7?
[20:17] <o------> unbuntu the worst os ever windows will always be better then ubuntu
[20:17] <gabmus> joh_878: dont even try to use wubi please
[20:17] <bekks> o------: Then go back to windows. please.
[20:17] <gabmus> can we kick o------ for spamming and off topic?
[20:17] <guntbert> !ops | o------
[20:17] <o------> gambus fuck you
[20:17] <gabmus> wow feels good man
[20:18] <Forkz> gabmus, no doubts, it was just a suggestion
[20:18] <gabmus> yeah, as i said i've tried it.
[20:18] <guntbert> gabmus: no need to comment - lets move on please
[20:18] <Forkz> Probably not a lot of support for that kind of usage though
[20:18] <joh_878> private message me as I am using my phone and it keeps scrolling bacl up when someone types thanka
[20:19] <Shutterstrom> Sorry for interrupting in the windows/ubuntu discussion, but is there anyone her that have tried the program fail2ban?
[20:20] <guntbert> Shutterstrom: whats your real question/problem?
[20:20] <gabmus> so, my story is that i started video editing for youtube using premiere pro on os x. eventually i moved away from it since i understood it is as bad as windows, then i switched to gnu/linux. still i cannot find anything decent. i even have windows installed in a separated hdd because of muh games, but i cant get to use it since... well, its a bad os. any suggestions for a good video editor?
[20:20] <[Gentoo]> Shutterstrom: no but what is wrong
[20:20] <joh_878> gabmus  didnt using wubbi
[20:20] <stevejones> i have a laptop with an nvidia quadros K3100M gpu
[20:20] <[Gentoo]> i would just use rate limiting with firewall, or keys
[20:21] <gabmus> joh_878: how are you trying to install it "inside windows" then?
[20:21] <bekks> joh_878: you did. Trying to install inside Windows actually is "using wubi".
[20:21] <stevejones> the nouveau drivers work fine... but they dont support cuda or opengl
[20:21] <[Gentoo]> opengl they do
[20:21] <EagleScreen> joh_878: installing Ubuntu inside Windows will NOT give you a full Ubuntu experience
[20:21] <stevejones> i tried installing the nvidia binary drivers but that seems to have screwed up the xorg config
[20:22] <brontosaurusrex> gabmus, kdenline or lightworks maybe
[20:22] <brontosaurusrex> kdenlive*
[20:22] <joh_878> EagleScreen any idea how to do it using the third option?
[20:22] <Jordan_U> gabmus: For something that can get proffessional results ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6MlUcmOul8 Tears of Steel among others), but with a somewhat high learning curve, try Blender.
[20:22] <gabmus> it would be nice to have a thing like "twitch plays pokemon" but instead "twitch intsalls gentoo". just a little ot :)
[20:23] <gabmus> brontosaurusrex: i already tried both, plus blender, cinelerra, openshot... nothing good so far
[20:23] <Forkz> gabmus, there is Cinelerra as well
[20:23] <brontosaurusrex> gabmus, any specific features that you need?
[20:23] <Forkz> Ah, tried that as well
[20:23] <gabmus> Forkz: tried that as well
[20:23] <EagleScreen> joh_878: just start your computer booting from your Ubuntu installation medium, not from the main hard disk
[20:24] <gabmus> brontosaurusrex: a video editor that is fast and doesnt crash. basically this
[20:24] <gabmus> fast on an i5 and a gtx760 i mean
[20:24] <Jordan_U> gabmus: Did you have speed or stability problems with Blender? If so, what issues specifically?
[20:25] <brontosaurusrex> gabmus, i gather that you crashed kdenlive and lightworks all the time?
[20:25] <gabmus> blender is not a problem really, just has a different use. i believe the  only thing where blender was used in tears of steel was the actual 3d animation, not the entire movie editing.
[20:25] <Forkz> gabmus, introduction for videoediting with Blender: http://processdiary.com/video-editing-in-blender-introduction/
[20:25] <gabmus> brontosaurusrex: kdenlive, pitivi and openshot crash, while i cant get how to use cinelerra, and lightworks is overpriced
[20:26] <Forkz> By a guy who sues Premiere for his day job
[20:26] <brontosaurusrex> gabmus, lightworks beta used to be free
[20:26] <Jordan_U> gabmus: Wrong, the entire workflow was done with Blender. That was the reason for making a live action film, to polish those aspects of Blender.
[20:26] <Shutterstrom> [Gentoo]: guntbert: Well, my real question is conserning a public sftp server. is there anyway that users can access the server even with the security fixes I've done. I'm using 4096 bit rsa key, disabled password login, changed default port, added my users to the AllowUsers list, using chroot to limit users access on server and disabled root login via ssh.
[20:26] <gabmus> Forkz: i had a license back then. my uncle worked with it and had a cs3 spare license
[20:27] <gabmus> Jordan_U: well, looks like i have to get deeper into blender. seems like the best solution so far
[20:27] <ThomasM> I'm looking for some tutorials/information about integrating cups with ldap? Can anyone help me?
[20:27] <gabmus> still, lets try not to consider it, maybe we can get something else out, ok=
[20:27] <Shutterstrom> guntbert: please excuse me if this is not the proper chanel for my question.
[20:30] <Guest18788> I had problem with Ubuntu so I am using LiveUSB and trying to take a backup from my home folder but whenever I try to copy from my direcotry I get an error "Permission Denied"
[20:30] <guntbert> Shutterstrom: this is a channel for Ubuntu support - so as long as you are running an Ubuntu server its fine - about your question: it looks like overkill to me - if you disabled password login and have set a good™ passphrase for your key there is little to gain for any intruder
[20:30] <Guest18788> Even, if I run thunar in superuser mode, any ideas why?
[20:31] <gabmus> thats not how permissions work in unix-like systems. each user has its own private home
[20:31] <Guest18788> gabmus, How can I pass that?
[20:31] <gabmus> i think a solution could be to chroot the system in the partition, but i dont know how to do it
[20:32] <Jordan_U> Guest18788: Where are you trying to copy to?
[20:32] <dw1> why would superuser get access denied :/
[20:32] <gabmus> is your /home in a separate partition from /? if yes there could be a workaround
[20:32] <yeats> !chroot | gabmus Guest18788
[20:32] <Guest18788> gabmus, Yes
[20:32] <gabmus> dw1: because if the files are owned by the user "John", then no other user but "John" can open it. "root" is another user
[20:33] <dw1> gabmus: but root is speshul
[20:33] <joh_134> Hi sorry lost connection before. I am now in "something else". I already partition about 89GB  before and called it L drive. can someone guide me please?
[20:33] <Jordan_U> gabmus: With standard *NIX permissions root can access anything, though there are exceptions to that in practice, outside encryption they are rare.
[20:33] <Guest18788> gabmus, I am trying to copy from terminal and it seems working out
[20:34] <majod> hi, is there ubuntu gnome channel?
[20:34] <Guest18788> gabmus, sudo cp  /media/xubuntu/blalblabla/ /media/xubuntu/anotherbla
[20:34] <guntbert> Jordan_U: don't forget ACLs
[20:34] <rww> majod: #ubuntu-gnome
[20:34] <Jordan_U> majod: #ubuntu-gnome
[20:34] <gabmus> Guest18788: well, then create an empty partition to install your system, while installing, choose other as partition management. choose the newly created  partition as / and format it. then choose the /home partition of your actually installed system BUT DONT FORMAT IT. now use the same username and password you used before, boot the newly installed system and recover your files
[20:35] <rww> majod: #ubuntu-gnome
[20:35] <rww> guntbert: I expect that falls under "they are rare", along with xattrs
[20:35] <gabmus> Guest18788: you are transfering those files, but you wont get to read them. the owner is still the original user
[20:35] <Jordan_U> guntbert: I think that falls pretty well into the "rare" catagory.
[20:35] <majod> rww: oh...thanks, didnt know about the dash
[20:35] <guntbert> rww: Jordan_U ack :)
[20:35] <Guest18788> gabmus, When I get them back I can use chown to change owner and chgrp to change group
[20:36] <gabmus> i dont think so, you should be the owner to do that
[20:36] <alexi5> do you guys know what could be the cause of ubuntu locking up after long transfers to its samba shares ?
[20:36] <gabmus> my method will work 100%
[20:36] <Guest18788> i'll be root
[20:36] <kupo_> how to update to 14.04 in terminal?   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't do the trick
[20:36] <gabmus> Guest18788: root is not the owner
[20:36] <Jordan_U> gabmus: Guest18788: You do not need to re-install to backup your files, that is a silly suggestion.
[20:36] <gabmus> kupo_: if you can access an X session i suggest you to run update-manager -d
[20:37] <gabmus> Jordan_U: its the only workaround i know. plus i think what he wants to do won't work
[20:37] <Shutterstrom> guntbert: Thanks! :) Well, it might be a little bit of overkill with all my precautions, but at the same time it's a way of learning what I'm doing and learning new things since I'm quite a new ubuntu user.
[20:37] <Shutterstrom> But thanks for your thoughts.
[20:37] <kupo_> so just add -d at end?
[20:37] <kupo_> I done it before. butforgot how
[20:37] <Guest18788> gabmus, Yes, but he can chwon root can do anything change owner, change group, etc...
[20:37] <gabmus> kupo_: just update-manager -d
[20:37] <Jordan_U> kupo_: Note that 14.04 has not been released yet. Support in #ubuntu+1.
[20:37] <rww> kupo_: yes. I note that Ubuntu 14.04 is not supported here until it's released in mid-april, so questions relating to that go in #ubuntu+1
[20:37] <kupo_> ok
[20:38] <rww> and I'm apparently duplicating Jordan_U right now so I'll go do something else :P
[20:38] <kupo_> ok. got it thanks
[20:38] <gabmus> i cant do more then tell you what i know. do whatever you want, you are free after all :)
[20:38] <joh_134> Hi guys  am trying to install ubuntu 13.10 and am suing something else to get a good experience of ubuntu. before i got to this stage  partition a 89GB space for Ubuntu. I'm now in this "something else"option can someone guide me please. I have a list of 4 device and one is "unusable" how will i know my partition drive(L) from my C and D drive?
[20:38] <kupo_> Not sure if I even want to update. so see much purpose of doing so yet
[20:38] <rww> kupo_: if you don't have some specific reason to, I would wait for the actual release :)
[20:39] <gabmus> kupo_: im using ubuntu gnome 14.04 right now and it works like a charm
[20:39] <kupo_> yeah. if it isn't broke. don't fix it heh
[20:39] <gabmus> dont know bout unity tho
[20:39] <kupo_> i do hope xfce comes back to life more. last major update in 2012. not sure how often they update things
[20:39] <joh_134> anyone please?
[20:39] <guntbert> Shutterstrom: no problem :) but - about fail2ban: in your case it would only be useful if your server were under some kind of DOS attack, where alone the count of started connections would create problems for it
[20:40] <gabmus> kupo_: we really dont have a 100% good de right now
[20:41] <rudix> hey guys
[20:41] <joh_134> Hi guys  am trying to install ubuntu 13.10 and am suing something else to get a good experience of ubuntu. before i got to this stage  partition a 89GB space for Ubuntu. I'm now in this "something else"option can someone guide me please. I have a list of 4 device and one is "unusable" how will i know my partition drive(L) from my C and D drive?
[20:41] <gabmus> gnome is too simple, still best imho, kde is bloated, xfce is outdated and acts awkwardly, lxde is... well, ugly, and others are just meh
[20:41] <kupo_> i'd say xfce4 is near great. i do have a screensaver issue though. after every reboot i have to type in command to fix. but whatever. I don't reboot often
[20:41] <gabmus> im glad we got rid of screensavers. i hate them
[20:42] <kupo_> indeed
[20:42] <awesomess3> joh_134, try `fdisk -l` I'm 28% sure that should help you.
[20:42] <guntbert> !repeat | joh_134
[20:43] <joh_134> awesomess3 am installing dont have commandlne when installing
[20:43] <awesomess3> gabmus, you've really tried all five of them (ie. gnome ubuntu, unity ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu)? haha
[20:43] <ubunter> bekks
[20:43] <rudix> I am ex Mac user ... I am trying to find protocol or client that supports (I am calling it - non blocking transfer) to remote server ... probably I am searching wrong and you guys are my last hope
[20:43] <gabmus> awesomess3: yes i did. also i hate unity
[20:44] <yeats> joh_134: ctrl-alt-T should get you a terminal fwiw
[20:44] <rudix> this was possible with mac app called - transmit
[20:45] <Jordan_U> rudix: Describe what your end goal is.
[20:45] <gabmus> awesomess3: ive also tried e17 and e18, many tiling wms, openbox (which is a pretty great minimal wm) and... well i dont think there is anything else left
[20:45] <joh_134> yeats didnt work
[20:45] <rudix> basically what the app did was - make temp file on ctrl+s .... delete the one on the server and upload it - zero lag
[20:45] <brontosaurusrex> rudix, filezilla has something like that
[20:46] <phantomcircuit> i installed the nvidia drivers from x-swat
[20:46] <phantomcircuit> after logging in the screen is black
[20:46] <phantomcircuit> except the mouse
[20:46] <rudix> brontosaurusrex,  I've tried it ... no such a thing :/
[20:46] <gabmus> rudix: that zero lag is most likely just uploading the file in background
[20:46] <phantomcircuit> which is there normally
[20:46] <phantomcircuit> it's weird
[20:46] <rudix> gabmus, yes
[20:46] <joh_134> Hi guys  am trying to install ubuntu 13.10 and am suing something else to get a good experience of ubuntu. before i got to this stage  partition a 89GB space for Ubuntu. I'm now in this "something else"option can someone guide me please. I have a list of 4 device and one is "unusable" how will i know my partition drive(L) from my C and D drive?
[20:46] <brontosaurusrex> rudix, i can edit the remote file via filezilla and it will upload it when its saved localy
[20:47] <gabmus> phantomcircuit: i know that thing, may be caused by many things. i may have the solution: can you access a tty?
[20:47] <rudix> brontosaurusrex,  it's something like "sync"  or
[20:47] <Jordan_U> rudix: Having a temporary file seems like a work around. You can just mount sftp shares via nautilus and work with files normally.
[20:47] <brontosaurusrex> rudix, just "edit" i think
[20:47] <brontosaurusrex> f5 or f4 or something
[20:47] <rudix> nautils does no do the trick either
[20:48] <phantomcircuit> gabmus, yeah i can
[20:48] <rudix> ctrl+s ... 1sec lag (cannot edit) ... then ready to go
[20:48] <awesomess3> gabmus, I consider just pure console (CTRL+ALT+F2-6) to be a very fast alternate terminal. :-)
[20:48] <phantomcircuit> gabmus, e gdm login screen renders fine which is the weird part
[20:48] <Jordan_U> rudix: What problem do you have with nautilus' SFTP support?
[20:48] <majod> guys...did anyone anyhow solve issue with docky/cairo/plank fighting minimizing animation with unity?
[20:48] <gabmus> phantomcircuit: ok just wait for instructions
[20:48] <rudix> winscp works that way ... is the "scp" protocol different than sftp
[20:49] <brontosaurusrex> rudix, yeah, also nautilus, another way would be sshfs
[20:49] <Jordan_U> rudix: So basically you don't want operations that normally sync/fsync to actually block on the file hitting the remote server. Correct?
[20:49] <brontosaurusrex> or just connecting to remote server and doing nano myfile.txt
[20:49] <rudix> Jordan_U,  yes ...awesome explanation
[20:49] <rudix> (I am not native english speaker) :/
[20:49] <gabmus> phantomcircuit: login in a tty and run "sudo nano /etc/defaults/grub". find the line that says "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[20:50] <Jordan_U> rudix: What do you want to happen if you lose the connection to the remote server between saving the file and it actually making it to the server?
[20:51] <gabmus> phantomcircuit: replace "quiet splash" with "nomodeset". press ctrl+o to save, then ctrl+x to exit. finally run "sudo update-grub && sudo init 6"
[20:51] <phantomcircuit> gabmus, yup
[20:51] <Shutterstrom> guntbert: about fail2ban. The idea was/is to ban anyone that is just browsing for public servers to take over and thus preventing any DDOS attacks. Just a simple way of saying "if you're not a registered user, please go away" :)
[20:51] <rudix> Jordan_U, collateral damage
[20:51] <yeats> joh_134: so you created a Windows partition for installing ubuntu? is that what you mean by 'my partition drive(L)'?
[20:51] <Jordan_U> rudix: So you don't mind losing some data in that case. Correct?
[20:51] <rudix> yes
[20:51] <rudix> the lage is more annoying
[20:51] <gabmus> phantomcircuit: the pc should reboot with the last command, see if it works
[20:51] <rudix> I hit ctrl+s a lot
[20:52] <rudix> also care about backups
[20:52] <joh_134> yeats yes
[20:52] <Jordan_U> rudix: Well, you could use libeatmydata, but I'm sure there's a nicer solution than that.
[20:52] <yeats> joh_134: then you're going about this the wrong way - you need to create free space on the disk for Ubuntu to use
[20:53] <yeats> joh_134: if you're on Vista or 7 (or I assume 8, but don't know) you can "shrink" your Windows partition to do that
[20:53] <rudix> thanks Jordan_U
[20:54] <joh_134> yeats done all that already
[20:54] <gabmus> question: how do i change the boot priority in my grub menu?
[20:54] <phantomcircuit> gabmus, nope
[20:54] <yeats> joh_134: so what do you mean by "my partition drive(L)"?
[20:54] <phantomcircuit> the tty is now default resolution, but the screen is still black
[20:54] <gabmus> phantomcircuit: thats what worked for me, no clue what you could do sorry
[20:54] <canaima_> puto
[20:54] <canaima_> ecwcecececcwccewcwc
[20:54] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Shutterstorm: Physical device security is equally important.
[20:55] <joh_134> yeats the space  took out for ubuntu is 89gb AND its "unallocated"
[20:56] <yeats> joh_134: okay, then have you tried the "install ubuntu in available free space" option?
[20:56] <joh_134> yeats i didnt get that option.
[20:57] <yeats> joh_134: well, you mentioned the "something else" option... what are the other options?
[20:57] <Shutterstrom> KyouReeUs4nfo: sorry, maybe it's the time, but I don't thing I follow you regarding physical security. You mean if anyone can come into my home and grab the server?
[20:58] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Shutterstrom: I guess
[20:58] <joh_134> yeats when i click "something else" in the list of drives i didnt see "free space"
[20:59] <dhcea> running 12.04 LTS and I have a package config problem, specifically libqt4 (libqt4-core) any idea how to resolve this? "dpkg: error processing libqt4-scripttools:i386 (--configure)"
[21:00] <Shutterstrom> KyouReeUs4nfo: Well, since I'm pretty tall I placed the server quite close to the ceiling :)
[21:00] <Jordan_U> rudix: You're welcome.
[21:01] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Shutterstrom:  okay
[21:02] <yeats> joh_134: this is what I see when I attempt to install beside Windows XP: http://picpaste.com/lubuntu-6VM2VcwH.png - is that similar to what you're seeing?
[21:04] <gabmus> g2g guys see ta
[21:04] <gabmus> see ya
[21:04] <gabmus> bye
[21:04] <joh_134> yeats yes do you see that link radio button option that says "something else" i clicked on that. A new windows pop up with of drive "/dev/sda 1ntfs" "/dev/sda 2 ntfs" "/dev/sda  ntfs"  "unusedable"
[21:05] <joh_134> yeats but not "free space". am going to shrink volume again and try
[21:05] <yeats> joh_134: ok - yeah - just know that you can't create a partition in Windows that Ubuntu can use. it has to be free space
[21:06] <dhcea> any way to see what the apt repository system is intended to install next? i would like to clear that out
[21:07] <yeats> dhcea: you can simulate installation with 'sudo apt-get -s upgrade'
[21:08] <joh_134> yeats is they a guide on how to aloocated the spaces for boot, root, etc?
[21:08] <dhcea> yeats: actually do you know much about apt-cache because I'm thinking something is stuck there, it keeps installing a particular package or at least attempts to
[21:08] <yeats> joh_134: there are plenty of guides, but I'm not convinced you should need them - the installer does all that for you
[21:09] <yeats> dhcea: can you pastebin what you're seeing?
[21:09] <joh_134> yeats if you skip to 1:53 you will see what i mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvP_4J2MUEc
[21:09] <a1fa> i have a network scanner (Canon MF4770n) that sits on a routed L3 network.. anyway to connect ubuntu to scan via network?
[21:09] <yeats> !partition | joh_134
[21:10] <Jordan_U> joh_134: Keep everything in one partition unless you have a compelling reason to do otherwise. It will make your life easier.
[21:10] <yeats> joh_134: ok, so you're not seeing "free space" as in the video?
[21:10] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | joh_134
[21:10] <joh_134> yeats nope
[21:11] <yeats> joh_134: ok, then you need to create the space from the Windows side (or use gParted, though that can affect Windows negatively)
[21:11] <yeats> !pm | dhcea
[21:11] <joh_134> yeats so i chose click "free space" and just click install? no need to click on "change"
[21:12] <yeats> joh_134: at the point in the video when they choose "something else", I would just choose "install ubuntu alongside Windows"
[21:13] <yeats> joh_134: but you have to have free space available
[21:13] <dhcea> ok coming right up, it's the scripttools leading to some other qt4 legacy issues.
[21:13] <dhcea> http://pastebin.com/AE5EhfDJ thanks
[21:14] <joh_134> yeats what get is " install ubuntu INSIDE windows 7" i  dont want it INSIDE plus if i choose that option my pc restart because its INSIDE
[21:15] <yeats> dhcea: are you using any PPAs or other custom repos?
[21:15] <yeats> joh_134: no - you don't want to do that
[21:15] <yeats> joh_134: can you do a screenshot of what you're seeing and share the link here?
[21:16] <dhcea> yeats: yes there are a few, i will try to comment most of them now
[21:16] <dhcea> gotta go, thanks for the advice
[21:17] <joh_134> yeats i shrink another space and reboot from usb and still can find "free space"
[21:17] <joh_134> yeats okay just a min
[21:21] <joh_134> yeats http://imagebin.org/302939
[21:23] <joh_134> yeats can you see it? sorry about the bad quality
[21:26] <SteveH0> With a small (<15) network, what is the easiest way to resolve hostnames?
[21:28] <Jordan_U> joh_134: You have a problem. A drive with an msdos partition table, and such a partition table can only have 4 primary partitions. You already have 4 primary partitions, so unless you change one of them to an extended partition (with logical partitions inside it) you can't crate any more partitions.
[21:29] <joh_134> Jordan_U how can i do that place
[21:31] <joh_134> Jordan_U how can i do that please
[21:31] <Jordan_U> joh_134: There are consequences to moving a partition from primary to logical-within-extended, especially for Windows installations. Without knowing more about your Windows installation I can't even tell you if it's safe (which is why Ubuntu's installer didn't offer to partition automatically). Unfortunately I don't have the time to walk you through figuring out that information at the moment. Sorry.
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> j #ubuntu+1
[21:34] <joh_134> Jordan_U one more thing. Is that a windows thing or ubuntu?
[21:35] <Jordan_U> joh_134: Is what a Windows thing?
[21:35] <joh_134> Jordan_U moving a partition from primary to logical-within-extended?
[21:36] <SteveH0> Jordan: You could make a backup of the last (physical) partition's files and then delete that partition and then remaking it a logical partition, and then creating at least two extended partions, one to restore what you backed up, and another one to make into a Linux partition.  I'd also make a small third one for the swap drive.
[21:37] <Jordan_U> joh_134: It's something that you can do either in Windows or Ubuntu.
[21:38] <Jordan_U> SteveH0: You can convert to logical without ever deleting the partition's data, but if it's a recovery partition for example it may need to be primary to function (since Windows isn't as flexible as GNU/Linux in this area).
[21:38] <SteveH0> joh_134: Oops, that was directed at you, not Jordan_U.
[21:38] <joh_134> SteveH0 on "Disk management" i have "systsem reserved", "packard bell (C:) and DATA(D:)
[21:39] <SteveH0> Jordan: Sorry, I forgot about a restore partition.
[21:39] <joh_134> SteveH0 i also have "19.53 GB) Healthy (Recovery partition)
[21:40] <Artemis3> old microsoft OSes, can't see more than one "primary" partition, fwiw. GPT should put and end to that ancient system.
[21:40] <joh_134> SteveH0 so which are you guys talking about?
[21:43] <Viking667> hi all. How do I find out what packages are "broken" using dpkg? Synaptic doesn't seem to be very helpful.
[21:43] <k1l> Artemis3: what? MBR can see 4 primary. but windows needs the boot flag. gpt can handle more primary partitions
[21:43] <Viking667> and apt-get is claiming "you have held broken packages".
[21:43] <joh_134> SteveH0 help please
[21:43] <k1l> Viking667: use apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:44] <Viking667> .... huh? I'm not upgrading
[21:44] <k1l> Viking667: its no upgrading to next release.
[21:44] <k1l> !apt-get | Viking667
[21:45] <Artemis3> k1l, with gpt, all partitions are the same. no need for "logical".
[21:45] <pietro10> Hi. Is there some :suffix for apt-get that will let me install glib that I can link into a mingw program? Thanks.
[21:46] <SteveH0> With a small (<15) network, what is the easiest way to resolve hostnames?
[21:46] <awesomess3> ooo never heard of Muon or Apper. I've learned something today!
[21:48] <Viking667> gah. Now synaptic's telling me. "Could not apply changes, fix broken packages first".
[21:48] <Viking667> What I don't get is: why the heck can't I install libpulse0:i386 on a amd64 system?
[21:48] <Viking667> and it won't blankity tell me what's broken.
[21:49] <awesomess3> Viking667, try `apt-get -f install`
[21:50] <pietro10> Viking667: what does it say instead
[21:50] <Viking667> doesn't work. Still broken.
[21:50] <joh_134> H guys am trying to install ubuntu but when i choose "something else" I get http://imagebin.org/302939 but no "free space" even after  i dd create a partition. what can i do now?
[21:50] <Viking667> "some packages could not be installed ....." The following packages have unmet dependencies .....
[21:50] <pietro10> can you pastebin
[21:50] <Viking667> All this just so I can get flaming Skype to work.
[21:50] <Viking667> sigh. Give me a moment.
[21:51] <kazyn> can i somehow hide that messages "<user> left the chat blabla" ?
[21:51] <Viking667> Actually, give me a long moment. I'll rip the lot out and start again.
[21:51] <pietro10> kazyn: check your IRC client settings
[21:51] <kazyn> k, thx
[21:53] <Artemis3> kazyn, if xchat, right click channel tab
[21:53] <joh_134> Anyone how to move a partition from primary to logical-within-extended in windows 7?
[21:53] <Artemis3> joh_134, sounds like a windows support question
[21:54] <YamakasY> kewl
[21:54] <YamakasY> eee 901 as server, much better than a rasperry :)
[21:54] <joh_134> Artemis3 the chat gone dead just like windows
[21:54] <Viking667> ugh. Skype conflicts with Skype:i386  .... what the heck?
[21:55] <YamakasY> Viking667: skype is so 2002
[21:55] <Artemis3> Viking667, check if you have multiple repositories offering the package, such as partners and something else
[21:56] <thumpba> im trying to run upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 and update manager is failing http://hastebin.com/dexomeniha.vbs
[21:56] <k1l> Viking667: you have 3rd party PPAs or repos active?
[21:56] <Viking667> YamakasY: it may be, but it's still the only real option people know in Windows that happens to be (1) free—mostly...
[21:56] <Viking667> k1l: probably.
[21:56] <YamakasY> Viking667: webrtc :) and encrypted
[21:56] <Viking667> I'm removing things to start with. Then I can at least start with a somewhat clean deck.
[21:57] <Viking667> YamakasY: nobody knows those.
[21:57] <k1l> Viking667: what did you do so far to install skype? did you activate 32bitpackages on your 64bit system?
[21:57] <Viking667> Ask most people if they know skype, they'll say "Yes".
[21:57] <YamakasY> Viking667: you don't need to, only need a html5 browser
[21:57] <Viking667> what do you mean, "activate"?
[21:57] <YamakasY> Viking667: and if you say... visit this website
[21:57] <Viking667> yeah, but they don't KNOW it...
[21:58] <Viking667> I've never heard of webrtc.
[21:58] <k1l> Viking667: and skype should work right from the partner repo. no need to do stuff manually
[21:58] <Viking667> Well, it should. But for one thing.
[21:58] <Viking667> (1) Skype's only 32-bit. There's no 64-bit release of it.
[21:58] <k1l> Viking667: doesnt matter
[21:58] <bigmittens> can someone make sense of this http://clover-wiki.zetam.org/Installation#Linux
[21:58] <bigmittens> and explain it to me
[21:58] <CharlesIC> hi
[21:59] <k1l> Viking667: ubuntu uses multiarch. you should not even matter
[21:59] <bigmittens> im a noobuntu
[21:59] <CharlesIC> anyone using google cast extension with chrome in ubuntu?
[21:59] <Viking667> when I tried installing it, it installed fine but wouldn't talk to pulseaudio. Period.
[21:59] <CharlesIC> http://askubuntu.com/questions/324236/how-can-i-use-chromecast
[21:59] <Viking667> now, everything else can talk to pulseaudio fine... how come Skype can't?
[22:00] <MonkeyDust> bigmittens  start by describing what brings you here, what goes wrong
[22:00] <k1l> Viking667: well, what ubuntu is that exactly? please show a "lsb_release -a" , "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d" into a pastebin
[22:00] <Viking667> 13.10
[22:00] <Viking667> uhm, sources.list.d ... there are several.
[22:01] <YamakasY> Viking667: not ? skype is using it also I think now... at least they used flash :)
[22:01] <Viking667> give me several minutes. I've just ripped out every irrelevant i386 package. Let's see
[22:01] <k1l> Viking667: don interpret. just 1-to-1 copy these commands
[22:01] <bigmittens> MonkeyDust: i installed hackintosh and powered off before installing a bootloader
[22:01] <Viking667> k1l: please, wait for a while. Quite a while.
[22:01] <bigmittens> now my computer is unusable
[22:01] <bigmittens> and i am running ubuntu off usb
[22:01] <Viking667> YamakasY: I've got no clue what you've just said about skype.
[22:01] <MonkeyDust> bigmittens  great, but how is that ubuntu related?
[22:01] <sadpuppy> re install
[22:02] <geirha> tail -n+1 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list}
[22:02] <YamakasY> Viking667: skype uses slash
[22:02] <YamakasY> *flash
[22:03] <kostkon> YamakasY, eeer no
[22:03] <YamakasY> kostkon: yes they do!
[22:03] <bigmittens> MonkeyDust: because i need to install the efi bootloader using ubuntu
[22:03] <sadpuppy> re install
[22:03] <YamakasY> kostkon: I have seen a screenshot they crashed and it was flash :)
[22:03] <bigmittens> MonkeyDust: and i dont understand those commands at all
[22:04] <Viking667> Ah. Here we are. the required changes for installing Skype are a whole bucket of i386 packgages, none of those are libpulse0:i386
[22:04] <spectrum256> hello, there's news about ubuntu mobile?
[22:05] <k1l> Viking667: what about we make a regular skype install and see where the real issue is?
[22:05] <Viking667> The issue's simple. It won't talk to pulseaudio.
[22:06] <Viking667> ... therefore it grabs the next available sound driver, which is alsa. When I'm running another sound-using program, skype can't use the sound as it gets locked out.
[22:06] <Viking667> i.e. minecraft.
[22:06] <Viking667> one solution is to point openal at pulse instead of alsa, I've got to do that on the target machine...
[22:06] <Viking667> but as the wife's on it currently and resents being shifted off while she's doing stuff ... yeah.
[22:07] <Viking667> and it's her machine I'm trying to beat into submission so she can run skype and minecraft together.
[22:07] <Viking667> So, that's the long explanation.
[22:13] <Artemis3> i tho skype had pulse support?
[22:13] <Viking667> It does!
[22:13] <Viking667> That's the crazy thing.
[22:15] <Viking667> it works fine on my i386 machines, and talks to pulseaudio fine.
[22:15] <Viking667> I'm beginning to think they statically linked in something to do with pulseaudio, I've heard of stranger things.
[22:15] <spectrum256> why when i install the video drivers in ubuntu the image become split in four?
[22:17] <Viking667> sorry about that, network went down.
[22:17] <Viking667> so. Yes, Skype has pulseaudio support. connects perfectly well on my i386 machines.
[22:19] <spectrum256> i try to install some drivers and they seem corrupt
[22:20] <jacksina> Viking667: Really? I've been having such a hard time with skype on my machine. I've tried both the general  deb package and the one for my os but the call quality is always terrible.
[22:20] <Viking667> It works for us. it's not rubbish.
[22:20] <Viking667> but it's a bit temperamental.
[22:21] <Viking667> anyway, I need to bash on it a bit more. I just caused skype to die with a double-linked list.
[22:21] <jacksina> double-linked list?
[22:22] <TJ-> Viking667: have you run 'ldd' against the binary, and its proprietary libraries, to see what libraries are linked in?
[22:23] <Viking667> TJ-: yah, doesn't seem to look at libpulse0, even on my i386 machine
[22:24] <spectrum256> the screen is divided in four
[22:24] <TJ-> Viking667: does it link to an ALSA library, libasound or similar?
[22:25] <TJ-> Viking667: I'm guessing you've seen this? https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA10964/can-i-change-the-sound-system-used-by-skype-for-linux
[22:26] <Viking667> yeah. Doesn't help when I actually want to USE pulseaudio but it doesn't.
[22:26] <Viking667> and I suspect it stems frm the fact that it's i386 and pulse ain't.
[22:27] <Viking667> and I refuse to rip the 32Gb out of the machine and step down to 32-bit install of Ubuntu.
[22:28] <Viking667> ah, here's what I get when I try this:   padsp  skype
[22:28] <zenting> So, assuming 3.14 ends up in 14.04, is there any benefit to upgrading the kernel manually?
[22:28] <TJ-> Viking667: Did you install "libpulse0:i386" ?
[22:28] <Viking667> can't. It refuses.
[22:29] <Viking667> ... claiming I have held broken packagse.
[22:29] <Viking667> ... yet I can't see any.
[22:29] <Viking667> synaptic doesn't show any.
[22:29] <TJ-> Viking667: OK, what does apt-get show
[22:30] <Viking667> ... complains that n needs y,  then when I try y, it says y needs x, and so on and so on.
[22:30] <atreus_> What kinds of changes does 14.04 have that dont have to do with unity or the UI?
[22:30] <atreus_> and besides the kernel
[22:30] <Viking667> ... then complains I have requested an impossible situation
[22:31] <TJ-> Viking667: Well, it would help to see apt-get's output at that stage, then. "sudo apt-get install libpulse0:i386"
[22:31] <Viking667> sigh. Give me a moment then.
[22:32] <TJ-> Viking667: Possibilities for the breakage include PPAs having installed later versions of system packages
[22:32] <spikebike> Anyone know why ubuntu 13.04 EoL'd in jan, 2014, but 12.10 EoL'd in april 2014?
[22:32] <spikebike> neither are a LTS
[22:33] <Viking667> Right. what package handles pastebins?
[22:33] <beandog> Viking667: I use nopaste
[22:33] <atreus_> anyone?
[22:33] <Viking667> is that a package, or a website?
[22:33] <TJ-> spikebike: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2014-January/000178.html
[22:33] <beandog> Viking667: package
[22:33] <Viking667> thanks.
[22:33] <TJ-> Viking667: pastebinit
[22:34] <Viking667> cool. I'll select them both then.
[22:34] <spikebike> TJ-: thanks, ah, they modified the rules, but not retroactively, cool.
[22:35] <Viking667> hm. Will either of those take a username/password pair?
[22:36] <Viking667> Ah good. pastebinit does.
[22:36] <TJ-> Viking667: "man pastebinit" ... you can just do "sudo apt-get install libpulse0:i386 2>&1 | pastebinit"
[22:37] <Viking667> ugh. It used ubuntu.com's pastebin.
[22:37] <Viking667> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7187180
[22:38] <Viking667> looks like I need to go prod a command.
[22:39] <Viking667> brb
[22:41] <Viking667> back.
[22:46] <TJ-> Viking667: I suspect a problem with the apt sources, can you "cat /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} | pastebinit"
[22:47] <mobilemeyhem> Hi I just had an odd problem with my Ubuntu 12.04 precise x32 when I connected to my vpn via connection manager, it seems to have messed up mu wireless connection. I can no longer authenticate wirelessly. Any help?
[22:47] <Viking667> yah, I'll get to that in a moment.
[22:48] <mobilemeyhem> Viking667: thanks
[22:48] <phorce> Hey, I'm having trouble.. I have an arduino, and I'm trying to save the serial output to a file
[22:48] <phorce> I'm using: sudo cat /dev/ttyACM0 |tee bla3.txt
[22:48] <phorce> but it just creates the file and does not record anything.. It was working a while ago
[22:48] <phorce> but now it doesn't - any ideas/
[22:49] <mobilemeyhem> wish I could help you. I'm waiting for help currently :)
[23:01] <chris___1> Anyone know how to fix GRUB? INstalled 12.04 on my Windows 8 laptop and I can't boot it.
[23:02] <chris___1> Just get a terminal for it.
[23:02] <OerHeks> chris___1, you might want to see the uefi pages
[23:02] <OerHeks> !uefi
[23:02] <mobilemeyhem> Did you turn off eufi and secureboot?
[23:05] <Izaya> looking for some input on getting a new video card. My XFX Radeon HD6870 is crapping the bed (again)
[23:05] <Izaya> any good GeForce graphics cards out there within the $100 - $150 range for Ubuntu?
[23:06] <Viking667> damn, I can't paste this to pastebinit with my settings
[23:06] <Viking667> It merely chooses ubuntupastebin for itself.
[23:07] <Viking667> You know what? Screw this. I'm out of here to cool down. No fault to you guys, I've just had enough.
[23:08] <larsadin> Is there a file that Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 will recognize and prioritize *over* /etc/hosts when setting hostname? I have a desktop that absolutely refuses to recognize the changes I am making to /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts (I've rebooted after the change)
[23:10] <imacanofcoke> I am getting " error:  unknown command 'drivemap'", "error: invalid EFI file path" when trying to launch Windows 8 from GRUB. Any suggestions?
[23:14] <OerHeks> larsadin, Sounds like your /etc/hostname file is 'immutable', by way of having the immutable filesystem attribute. You can check with lsattr, > http://askubuntu.com/a/152813
[23:15] <c4pt> hello
[23:16] <c4pt> I am trying to remove a file from apt-get but its a meta package how can i remove the package without pulling the entire meta package with it
[23:16] <c4pt> http://pastie.org/private/4r1zpt1imx4r0n2u5toeq
[23:16] <c4pt> the package calls a meta package installed
[23:16] <c4pt> *the package is *NOT* a meta package
[23:18] <OerHeks> c4pt, ah a mint issue with mate?
[23:19] <c4pt> OerHeks, no its a debian issue with mate but if i ask in debian they tell me to go to #mate when i go to #mate no one answers me          its more of an apt-get problem that is universal with ubuntu , mint , or debian
[23:23] <Viking667> sorry about that. Had to go and kick a lamp-post. pastebinit and its stupidities mean I end up pasting anonymously instead of under my ******* username and password.
[23:24] <Viking667> http://pastebin.com/qvNjF5Dj    <--- that's the sources.list.d/ and sources.list from /etc/apt/
[23:24] <basketball> /etc/resolve.conf: No such file or directory
[23:24] <Viking667> it's resolv.conf
[23:24] <Viking667> no second e
[23:25] <OerHeks> c4pt, as we have no such screensaver-romoval issues, took a while to find the answer to force uninstall without whole desktop http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1513821&p=9486341#post9486341
[23:25] <monoton> when the "lost+found" directory is needed in the future (I guess after sudden power loss or something?) it will be created right? so there is no need for it to be there on my fresh new made partition?
[23:26] <Viking667> it's there .... just in case, I guess.
[23:26] <basketball>  Viking667  ok thanks
[23:26] <Viking667> that way you don't have to toast an inode's block data
[23:26] <Viking667> ... just to create it.
[23:27] <Viking667> basketball: glad to help.
[23:27] <c4pt> OerHeks, i've tried this with dpkg -P (for purge)
[23:27] <larsadin> OerHeks: Thanks for the response but there's no issues writing to the file, the file writes perfectly with a regular sudo. I ended up just blowing the entire thing away. Not worth the hassle.
[23:27] <c4pt> OerHeks, when i run apt-get to install something it tries to fix it
[23:27] <c4pt> OerHeks, http://pastie.org/private/r6v9rfzsbloueagoi64a
[23:28] <c4pt> OerHeks, normally apt-get -f install will return nothing
[23:28] <monoton> ah
[23:30] <c4pt> OerHeks, i just removed the meta package
[23:31] <meatmanek> Is trusty going to be running on Linux 3.14 by the time it's released?
[23:31] <c4pt> OerHeks, it didnt pull the whole system someone in #debian suggested it
[23:31] <meatmanek> or is it going to be on 3.13?
[23:31] <c4pt> OerHeks, i just did dpkg -r --force-all mate-screensaver mate-desktop-environment
[23:32] <spectrum256> finally i can install the drivers succesfully
[23:32] <Viking667> weird. Is TJ not here any more?
[23:35] <basketball> hey OerHeks  do you have a video on how do make a live dvd
[23:35] <OerHeks> c4pt, hard core screensaver, i think it is a marketing thing.
[23:37] <OerHeks> basketball, no, why do you need a video for that?
[23:37] <thomedy> can some one help me find my config files in the solr install  i have ubuntu 13
[23:37] <thomedy> im going to google find
[23:37] <erm3nda> HI. Q: how can i do a sudo using winscp?
[23:38] <imacanofcoke> Ubuntu installed properly with UEFI, when I boot from GRUB I get "error: unknown command 'drivemap'" and "error: invalid EFI file path." What do?
[23:38] <dcope> why would my server's clock be drifing after i've installed ntpd?
[23:39] <imacanofcoke> Ubuntu installed properly with UEFI, when I boot[Windows 8*] from GRUB I get "error: unknown command 'drivemap'" and "error: invalid EFI file path." What do?
[23:42] <Dylan> My CPU usage has a tendency to spike with just a small amount of programs open. Can anyone help me diagnose it?
[23:43] <RudyValencia> Hi, I'm trying out Ubuntu as an alternative to Arch and I need to configure a VM for Active DIrectory integration. I prefer not to use Likewise Open, is there an alternative configuration I can set up?
[23:43] <imacanofcoke> Ubuntu installed properly with UEFI, when I boot[Windows 8*] from GRUB I get "error: unknown command 'drivemap'" and "error: invalid EFI file path." What do?
[23:45] <Dylan> Looks like everyone's asking questions and no one's answering.
[23:45] <erm3nda> yes
[23:46] <monoton> I heard a recent upgrade to win8.1 might damage grub... I'm not sure how much truth there is to that...
[23:46] <monoton> erm3nda: please explain further what you want to do
[23:47] <erm3nda> i wanna connect to a ubuntu server with WinSCP ( a windows program)
[23:47] <Viking667> and it's not "wanna" it's "want to"
[23:47] <erm3nda> on a debian  is easy, using root, but cannot perform sudo on that
[23:47] <erm3nda> IM not english, srry
[23:47] <Viking667> that's okay.
[23:48] <erm3nda> but, you can correct and teach me whenever you want
[23:48] <basketball> OerHeks,  sorry can  you repost that link please
[23:48] <yeats> erm3nda: http://winscp.net/eng/docs/faq_su
[23:48] <erm3nda> i read, and do so
[23:48] <erm3nda> sudoers edited
[23:48] <erm3nda> installed ssh-askpass
[23:49] <monoton> erm3nda: I guess you can always use   sudo su -   to be root?
[23:49] <erm3nda> sure, but not on winscp
[23:49] <Viking667> basketball: this link?   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1513821&p=9486341#post9486341
[23:49] <erm3nda> i can open a terminal on winscp, and tried to sudo -su
[23:49] <erm3nda> error message is, sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[23:49] <Viking667> you need   sudo -  su
[23:49] <erm3nda> i know
[23:50] <Viking667> ah. not a problem I know how to fix.
[23:50] <erm3nda> i do using putty
[23:50] <basketball> Viking667,  no it was a tutorial on how to make a live disk\
[23:50] <Viking667> Ah, my apologies
[23:50] <erm3nda> but is not working on the winscp
[23:50] <Viking667> I'll grovel through and see what other URLs I find.
[23:51] <erm3nda> thank you, i will try anything
[23:51] <erm3nda> cannot believe i cant use winscp on a Ubuntu server...
[23:52] <tortora23> hey guys any one can help me?? this is what's happen
[23:52] <tortora23> intalled nvidia driver -< resolution on 640x 480
[23:53] <tortora23>  so i reinstalled the x
[23:53] <tortora23>  for reable te roght res
[23:53] <tortora23>  but now when start steam the accoutn of ubuntu disconnect isntantly
[23:55] <kazyn> can someone recommend me a good audio player for XMonad?
[23:58] <mtnbkr> erm3nda: not sure I understand your issue?  try sudo bash,   or su -   or even:  sudo su -   but not sudo - su
[23:59] <mtnbkr> erm3nda: or even sudo <theCommandYouAretryingToRun>