[00:05] yofel: are you still around? [00:05] trying to find the motivation to sleep, but for now, yes ^^ [00:06] can you please tell me just the username and the password for the current site? [00:06] I'm working on the sqldump, and I can't login [00:06] pm [00:06] on a test site [00:06] ok [00:28] good night yofel, I'll continue this in the morning. [00:28] same, good night === jono is now known as Guest60170 === soee_ is now known as soee === ovidiu-florin_ is now known as ovidiu-florin === vinay is now known as Guest58553 [08:15] good morning everybody [08:25] Riddell: are you around? [08:37] April Fools, everybody! http://babe.debian.plumbing/ (sune made it -- and looke what shirt Paul is wearing in one of the photos!) [08:51] hi ovidiu-florin [08:52] valorie: ooh sexy [08:53] :-) [09:00] even better we'll finally be joining the civilised counties once independent http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/apr/01/scotland-driving-on-right-independence-road-scheme [09:00] Riddell: *IF* [09:00] btw is it known about multiple devices appearing? [09:01] eg http://i.imgur.com/hpC0j6D.png [09:01] i have a nexus 7 and a nexus 5 plugged in and i see all these "blank" devices [09:01] unplugging both of them makes them all go away. I don't recall this being an issue in KDE 4.13 on 13.10 [09:01] (using the backports ppa [09:01] Kalidarn: usually those are "open pictures with gwenview" type things [09:01] yes but im not sure what these other blank looking ones are [09:01] perhaps try changing the theme and checking if its not just black on black? [09:01] ovidiu-florin: arg it's started, you mention sponsoring links and now the SEO spammers are onto us http://paste.kde.org/pncsr2oxa [09:02] nah its not [09:02] they appear in dolphin too [09:03] Riddell: :) [09:04] Riddell: the company I was talking about, they agreed to migrate our site for us for free [09:04] ovidiu-florin: yay! [09:04] I've tried to do a demo migration last night, but I ran into a pickle [09:05] jussi: and when we're independent you'll be begging us to send our nuclear armed submarines to free Finland from the Russians [09:05] there's something wrong with the sqldump I've got from canonical [09:05] or ubuntu rt, or what ever it's called [09:05] Riddell: we dont need you - look at what happened last time they tried to invade... [09:05] canonical sysadmin [09:05] yes [09:06] the sqldump is incomplete [09:06] they've cleared some tables [09:06] most specific: the users table [09:06] Do you know someone from the canonical sysadmins? [09:07] ovidiu-florin: #canonical-sysadmin [09:07] I would like to get a full backup of our current site (all files and a FULL DB dump) [09:07] ovidiu-florin: no I'm afraid not, maybe jose does he's a useful sort, else just e-mail rt@ubuntu.com or ping on their irc channel [09:07] btw all those "blank" devices open up to camera: [09:08] ie: [09:08] camera:/Google%2520Inc%2520(for%2520LG%2520Electronics%252FSamsung)%2520Nexus%25204%252F5%252F7%252F10%2520(MTP+ADB)@usb:001,012 [09:08] camera:/Google%2520Inc%2520(for%2520Asus)%2520Nexus%25207%2520(MTP+ADB)@usb:001,010 [09:08] I don't know jose [09:11] happy All Fools day everyone [09:11] later..... [09:12] Riddell: what should I say to the can. Sysadm. that the backup is for? [09:13] ovidiu-florin: to transition to a new CMS [09:14] ok [09:20] *hugs* [09:20] shadeslayer: 4.98 [09:20] shadeslayer: 4.12.97 works fine here, although I'm not convinced file search in dolphin is any better [09:20] vHanda: ^^ [09:21] shadeslayer: does it work for you? [09:22] I've been debugging some crashes in baloo with vHanda since yesterday, so atleast I can keep poking him with crashes and make him fix those :p [09:25] shadeslayer: but does it find the files? [09:25] Riddell: i'm saying in the request mail that they can ask you for confirmation. Is that ok? [09:25] Riddell: yeah, works for me [09:29] ovidiu-florin: sure [09:29] sent [09:29] thank you [09:55] shadeslayer: apparently kubuntu-notification-helper (14.04ubuntu7) had changelog modifications after upload :'< [09:55] on that note [09:56] alert alert alert [09:56] your's truly forgot to port the daemon to the new dbus api [09:56] how does that sort of thing slip through QA [09:56] :( [09:57] ah, because no one bothered to remind people of the test cases we have online [09:58] it does help a lot less if people don't get reminded [09:58] >.< [09:58] * ghostcube hands apachelogger a cup of calm down tea [09:59] * shadeslayer hugs apachelogger [09:59] there isn't much time to calm down this close to release [09:59] shadeslayer: I am also adding some kdebug [10:00] hmm then is shouldnt ask for an upstream update of kdeconnect eh? [10:00] prolly not [10:00] apachelogger: to k-d-m ? [10:00] and on that note [10:00] shadeslayer: knh [10:00] the driver thing in knh more specifically [10:00] ghostcube: actually, that does need updating [10:00] just that we're fixing broken things [10:00] :) [10:00] shadeslayer: did you do ktp update or is that still pending? [10:01] I don't see it in the repo [10:01] so needs doing [10:01] I'll do that today [10:01] oh man, things are going to suck, since I'm unavailable the entire next week :/ [10:02] there's a bug for it anyway [10:03] mh [10:03] ah [10:03] shadeslayer: yes [10:03] also [10:03] we need libk-d-m [10:03] for the marshal [10:03] muhahahahahahaha [10:04] time for a 14.10 board I think [10:05] *nod* [10:08] phonon-backend-gstreamer1.0-0.0~git20140324/debian/phonon4qt5-backend-gstreamer1.0/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/phonon4qt5_backend [10:09] whats with the weird thing there [10:09] oh my [10:09] oh you [10:09] btw [10:09] if one installs the old backend (or the old backend is not migrated) amarok breaks [10:10] and other stuff using stuff that uses gst1 [10:10] so there really should not be any such stuff [10:11] oh [10:11] en [10:11] eh [10:11] apachelogger: well [10:11] installing the 1.0 backend will remove the 0.10 one [10:11] yeah [10:11] so when you logout/login things will unbreak [10:12] tell that to the bug reports that did not get the 1.0 backend installed [10:12] and now amarok is broken [10:12] >.> [10:12] and while you are at it, please also draft an announcement we can point to for all future occurances when a user installs the 0.10 backend by whatever means [10:13] out of curiosity how would that work ( amarok not install the 1.0 backend ) [10:15] amarok depends on phonon depends on phonon-backend-gstreamer1.0 | phonon-backend, can be fullfilled by phonon-backend-gstreamer, phonon-backend-gstreamer1.0 will not be installed because the requirements are met [10:15] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/1298380 [10:15] Launchpad bug 1298380 in amarok (Ubuntu) "Amarok wont play music files" [Critical,Confirmed] [10:16] there simply is no reason for phonon-backend-gstreamer to be around [10:18] Riddell: ^^ [10:18] apachelogger: but what if we want to roll back :) [10:18] oh [10:18] we go to vlc then [10:19] not gst, since plugins are broken as fuck [10:21] Riddell: plz nuke the 0.10 backend [10:21] since it won't work in any case [10:21] qtwebkit was built against 1.0 , so it's utterly useles [10:22] shadeslayer: okay dokay [10:23] why does notification helper have a po/ dir again? [10:23] Riddell: any reason why debian/phonon4qt5-backend-gstreamer1.0/ dir in the pgst1.0 packaging? [10:24] Riddell: pgst has reverse depends btw [10:36] hey ovidiu-florin! even though you don't know me, feel free to ping me for anything you need, specially if rt related [10:37] apachelogger: are you working on getting qapt plugin install working? [10:37] no [10:37] 'Morning all [10:38] I am not a qapt developer Oo [10:38] ok [10:41] shadeslayer: isn't that package building both qt4 and qt5 from one source? [10:41] Riddell: but then why the empty folder in the packaging :) [10:42] also, apachelogger ^^ , does the qt4 and qt5 code get built in one .so ? [10:42] shadeslayer: no it builds qt4 then qt5 [10:42] installing qt5 into debian/phonon4qt5-backend-gstreamer1.0/ so I probably just forgot a clean rule to rm that directory [10:43] Riddell: I don't think so [10:45] Riddell: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/170599598/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-amd64.phonon-backend-gstreamer1.0_0.0~git20140324-0ubuntu1_UPLOADING.txt.gz [10:45] don't see Qt5 stuff being built there [10:45] possibly the branch needs rebasing on master [10:46] shadeslayer: probably I just copied it from phonon-backend-gstreamer0.10 [10:59] on that note [11:00] the 1.0 branch probably needs rebasing on master [11:00] god how I hate variant types [11:00] shadeslayer: where rebasing is fancy git speak for a new checkout? [11:00] * apachelogger is going to do code copy now :@ [11:01] apachelogger: http://nooooooooooooooo.com/ [11:03] your fault anyway [11:03] Riddell: nope [11:03] apachelogger: what [11:03] had you done proper marshalling you had needed to make a library when you created the knh event [11:03] had you had created a library I'd now not have to do code copyz [11:04] :( [11:04] folks blame scientologie... :D better than blaming each other [11:04] even so it is curious that qt can't automarshall to variants for some reason [11:08] heh [11:08] Riddell: mind approving ktp-common-internals [11:09] shadeslayer: approved! [11:09] Riddell: thx [11:13] well, that only took longer than expected [11:14] shadeslayer: knh fixy ready [11:14] yay [11:14] * shadeslayer is updating ktp [11:14] thanks shadeslayer [11:14] weeh [11:14] shadeslayer: where are we on the python3.4 thing? [11:14] apachelogger: fixed pending a merge [11:17] Riddell: plz unapprove kpeople [11:17] Riddell: approve my second kpeople upload [11:18] shadeslayer: kpeople rejected¡ [11:18] shadeslayer: kpeople rejected! [11:18] shadeslayer: kpeople accepted! [11:37] knh uploaded [11:37] apachelogger: what's new? [11:37] repaired driver notifications [11:37] I also changed the way the init timeout works, it now defaults to 1s in manual builds (outside dpkg-buildpackage) and 3 minutes when built via dpkg-buildpackage [11:38] makes testing easier without having to resort to manually changing the timeout all the time [11:38] lovely [11:38] I don't suppose you added codec installation back now that qapt doesn't do it? [11:40] does that happen in the event? [11:40] well that's badly architectured alright [11:40] m_kopetePackages["kopete-gcall"] = i18n("Google Talk support for Kopete"); [11:41] Riddell: can't past string freeze, adding stuff apparently requires strings [11:41] which reminds me that I wanted to find out why exactly knh has a po dir [11:43] seriously, moun is not usable, it is simply impossible to search, as soon as I start typing something the complete Package window turns empty and stays like that [11:44] s/moun/muon/ [11:45] Mamarok meant: "seriously, muon is not usable, it is simply impossible to search, as soon as I start typing something the complete Package window turns empty and stays like that" [11:45] * Mamarok goes back to synaptic [11:45] hmmm muon is working here [11:45] you can search? [11:45] package and software based [11:45] yep [11:45] talking about current Trusty latest release [11:45] ? [11:46] just updated on my 14.04 virtual box [11:46] so it should be the same [11:46] well I tried, restarted, started with kdesudo, nothing, the package windows goes totally blank once I enter something in the search field [11:46] Mamarok: which muon? package manager, sc or discover? [11:47] just muon, which is the package insntaller, of course [11:47] hmm package one works fine here [11:47] try this: 'sudo update-apt-xapian-index', then check if search works [11:47] and when searching for updates it shows one package, while apt-get and synaptic show 35 [11:47] i got 2.1.70-ubuntu3 [11:48] yofel: why on earth does one always have to go through loops for someting to work, why can't it "just work"? [11:48] Mamarok: uhm, I'm not sure why it's not finding anything for you. The search index should be updated on every package cache update [11:48] maybe update regression? [11:49] also system settings>multimedia>audio&video settings when chosen just hangs and doesn't open. [11:49] actually muon will auto update the xapian index [11:50] there is however a bug that it does not try to open the cache after initial creation (i.e. right after installation) [11:50] well no, it doesn't, at least not for me, now it works [11:50] BluesKaj: yep can confirm this [11:50] so the xapian db uptdate is not working [11:52] i get a dbus server warning if i launch systemsettings [11:52] inside terminal [11:52] apachelogger: IIRC that was because there is no cache that it could generate the index from after install [11:53] don't launch it in a terminal then [11:53] Mamarok: the reason things don't work is because people work around issues so they never get resolved [11:53] apachelogger: lol just wanted to see if anything comes up [11:53] ghostcube, it's been a problem for a few days, altho the audio settings don't seem to be affected since it all works ok. Kmix and alsamixer seem to be normal. [11:53] yofel: it will create a new one then [11:54] install -> install muon -> start muon -> progress bar at bottom -> wait till finished -> restart muon -> search works [11:54] ok [11:54] if libqapt/muon did try to reopen on updatefinished search would work after the progressbar has finished [11:54] ah [11:54] before it is finished it will not work regardless though because there is no cache [11:54] which is also slighly UI snafu [11:55] apachelogger: I never even touched that thing, usually I use either the cli or synaptic [11:55] it's a minor issue though as there's plenty of things triggering xapian updates and ultimately ubiquity shoudl trigger one after installation, for which we have a card somewhere [11:55] which I think is blocked on someone looking into it or something [11:55] I think shadeslayer gave up on it [11:56] well, an isuse not getting any package updates in a package manager is not something I would call minor [11:56] Mamarok: quite possibly the xapian index got corrupted [11:57] though I reckon it would fail to open then, which in turn would trigger an update [11:57] Riddell: bug 1300480 [11:57] bug 1300480 in phonon-backend-gstreamer1.0 (Ubuntu) "gst 1.0 pulseaudio needs explicit seeding" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1300480 [11:58] bug 1300478 [11:58] bug 1300478 in phonon-backend-gstreamer1.0 (Ubuntu) "package does not have kubuntu-bugs team in global subscribers" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1300478 [11:58] bug 1298380 [11:58] bug 1298380 in amarok (Ubuntu) "Amarok wont play music files" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1298380 [11:58] shadeslayer: are you on the digikam thing? [12:00] BluesKaj, ghostcube: find /usr/lib -iname phonon_gstreamer.so [12:00] what's there to do with digikam? [12:00] if that yields one result run ldd on that path [12:00] yofel: bug 1299738 [12:00] bug 1299738 in digikam (Ubuntu) "digikam does not start in trusty beta 2amd64" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1299738 [12:00] ouch [12:00] /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/plugins/phonon_backend/phonon_gstreamer.so [12:01] library transitions past feature freeze is an interesting way of breaking the release [12:01] ghostcube: ldd on that [12:02] apachelogger, file does not exist [12:02] http://pastie.org/8985459 [12:02] hm, digkam WFM [12:02] BluesKaj: ls -lah /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/plugins/phonon_backend [12:02] yofel: try installing kipi-plugins [12:02] ghostcube: install phonon-backend-gstreamer1.0 [12:03] you are affected by bug 1298380 [12:03] bug 1298380 in amarok (Ubuntu) "Amarok wont play music files" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1298380 [12:03] apachelogger: I have everything from digikam sc intalled (except maybe -doc) [12:03] yofel: kipi is not part of the sc, is it? [12:03] it is [12:03] plugins even? [12:03] I know lib is [12:03] fixed systemsettings [12:04] apachelogger: *digikam* SC, not kde sc [12:04] yofel: yes, I know :P [12:04] but kipi-plugins is shipped with digikam these days [12:04] ok [12:05] let me make a VM to test this [12:13] Riddell: bug 1298125 [12:13] bug 1298125 in qtwebkit-source (Ubuntu) "qtwebkit build failure on several architectures" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1298125 [12:14] shadeslayer: bug 1297351 [12:14] bug 1297351 in meta-kde-telepathy (Ubuntu) "Please update meta-kde-telepathy to 0.8.0" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1297351 [12:20] what the hell is bug 1276820 [12:20] bug 1276820 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "unity and KDE mouse cursor disappear" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1276820 [12:21] a meta bug for... mesa? ^^ [12:21] is it mesa? [12:21] reads a lot like pebkac [12:22] not sure, I usually blame rendering issues on mesa. but that's also a possibility [12:22] *sigh* [12:22] our installer still says it's installing kubuntu on a disk with 1B of space [12:22] I've installed plasma-desktop package and the problem doesnt appear [12:22] that's not mesa [12:23] hm [12:23] this report is so much crap it's not even funny [12:25] this mouse bug could be a compiz kde problem [12:25] what is a compiz kde problem? [12:26] compiz is started and makes trouble inside the kde rendering [12:26] compiz and kde isnt working pretty well since long time :D [12:26] it could also be a mesa problem, a x problem, a driver problem, a qt problem, a gtk problem, a pebkac problem, a cursor theme problem .... [12:27] yeah but as i seen the compiz thing i think its nothing about that all [12:27] ghostcube: it also happens in unity [12:27] yeah i know but still he has compiz on its way [12:27] compiz starting in a plasma session seems slightly odd though [12:28] IIRC the kde configured window manager will start as very first thing by ksmserver [12:28] so there is no way that compiz could even start since window managers block one another [12:28] had to switch back to xrender and native from OpenGL and raster , due to font problems in web browsers and dialogs, and blanking of desktops and parts of desktops [12:28] that is a mesa problem [12:29] well, it might not be fun [12:29] the ubuntu-bugcontrol discussion is fun though [12:29] been like that for quite a few weeks now [12:29] yofel: mh? [12:30] apachelogger: but he hasent got the prob in the vm [12:30] apachelogger: " Kubuntu triage policy conflicts with Ubuntu triage policy", to which you're CC'd I believe [12:30] so i dont think this is mesa [12:30] ghostcube: who? [12:30] the one posting the bug [12:30] yofel: yeah, well, I did not reply for a reason :P [12:31] :D [12:31] ghostcube: sure it can, drivers talk to mesa, and sometimes drivers cause mesa bugs or vice versa, which is actually what BluesKaj is seeing [12:31] so it is entirely possible that something works on bare metal but does not in a VM [12:31] because they have different drivers [12:37] ughs radeon drivers used iam out of business :D [12:37] hihi [12:37] apachelogger, there were a few artifacts in VB W7 guest, but nothing serious compared to the utter blanking of all fonts in FF and chromium [12:48] shadeslayer, Riddell: regarding the LO thing... dropping libreoffice-kde fixes it apparently so that might be something we'll need to do unless a fix appears in time for final [12:50] :S [12:50] where's jmux :P [12:51] hiding, for obvious reasons :P [12:52] apachelogger: have you worked out what the LO thing is? [12:52] shadeslayer: on holiday? [12:53] Riddell: not exactly, but will be unavailable next week due to family reasons [12:54] shadeslayer: jmux is on holiday [12:55] yofel: ah, you continued the thread [12:55] noooo [12:55] I wonder if whatever the libreoffice thing is, is related to jmux's fix bug 1290514 [12:55] bug 1290514 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu Saucy) "LibreOffice KDE4 backend crashes in Qt4 recursive paint events" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1290514 [12:58] Riddell: potentially might want to approve ktp in unapproved queue [12:59] or do you want me to upload everything [12:59] shadeslayer: I don't really mind as long as it compiles and works without adding beasties [12:59] :) [12:59] If it adds beasties I shall move over to d_ed's table and poke him [13:00] along with mck182 [13:00] apachelogger, the phonon_gstreamer.so file exits in the path you posted , but it doesn't seem to have any effect on the device preferences in multimedia [13:00] exists rather [13:02] shadeslayer: I take it mck182 is in town too? [13:02] yep [13:03] omg, dfaure broke kwin xD [13:04] so he's human after all! [13:04] :D [13:04] nah [13:04] must be april 1 [13:04] bah :P [13:09] I was going to suggest that MS is launching it's own version of Linux named Winux , but somebody beat me to the April fool's joke by about 13 yrs :) [13:10] best one is... apple and MS are working on a new version of iDos [13:10] :D [13:10] :) [13:11] gnah s5 still not available [13:11] -.- [13:34] Riddell: ktp all up [13:34] plz approve [13:41] apachelogger: I almost have that done. [13:41] manchicken: hi! [13:41] manchicken: I don't suppose you could look at the gst plugin install stuff :P [13:41] shadeslayer: Hi! It's been an interesting day here at ThinkGeek so far :) [13:41] Naw, I'm at work, and I was up late working. [13:41] ThinkGeek? :D [13:41] you work at TG? [13:41] Yeah, that's where I work. [13:42] hah, awesome [13:42] * shadeslayer was browsing last night, looking for a alarm clock [13:43] specifically, the one that looks like the old alarm clocks, but with the LED face [13:45] can't type straight in mails [13:45] outragous [13:46] apachelogger: You got that I said I'm almost done with the debug installer, right? [13:46] I just haven't had time to tidy it up. Since I fixed the duplicate portion it seems like it's mostly working. I need to find a package that only has debug syms in a ddebs repo. [13:46] apachelogger: no shit http://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/01/plasma-desktopi27348.png [13:46] manchicken: yes, we are still way past feature freeze and considering everything is broken anyway I'd rather not do it for .04 [13:46] shadeslayer: ktp accepted! [13:47] shadeslayer: ? [13:47] apachelogger: can't type anything for the first time today [13:47] Riddell: uau [13:47] ^^ see what I mean [13:47] shadeslayer: it's always the case for me [13:47] I have shell aliases for everything otherwise I'd spend half the time correcting typos :O [13:47] xD [13:48] * shadeslayer is rebasing pgst on master [13:50] Yeah [13:51] manchicken: if you need one, e.g. ksnapshot has not -dbg package [13:51] *no [13:53] That's awesome. [13:54] apachelogger: I can't comment on the card yet, could you stick yofel's comment onto the card so I don't lose that? [13:54] uh, I can just do that ^^ [13:56] where is the card though o.O? [13:56] oh god http://paste.ubuntu.com/7189754/ [13:57] found it [14:22] wtf [14:22] wtf [14:22] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktp-call-ui/0.8.0-0ubuntu1 [14:23] it built fine in my pbuilder?! [14:24] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7189897/ [14:24] * apachelogger ninja [14:24] hi littlegirl [14:25] shadeslayer: u pbuilder update first? [14:25]