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basketballhow can i add the numix theme in 14.0400:20
zubuntuhello ubuntu 14.04 room :p01:12
zubuntuso01:12
zubuntuwill the new icon theme be available for 14.o4 or not ?01:12
zubuntuseems u are sleeping :/01:13
zubuntuhello people01:14
zubuntuwake up wake up :p01:14
wolfy1339zubuntu, i guess not, since it is currently under a user interface freeze01:18
zubuntuwolfy1339:  :S01:18
zubuntubad news01:18
zubuntuwhy not ?01:19
zubuntuis there a way to download and install new icon theme for my 12.04 ?01:20
zubuntubeta release maybe ?01:20
wolfy1339there is a final beta for 14.0401:22
zubuntuwolfy1339:  just icon theme i mean01:23
zubuntuhttp://design.canonical.com/wp-content/uploads/2-application-icons.jpg01:23
zubuntuthese ones01:23
wolfy1339i dunno01:24
zubuntuhttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6kzyhS6GmCM/UzPxQtjM3pI/AAAAAAAAR-E/iiJIbqgAT0g/s1600/ubuntu-14.04.png01:25
zubuntufinal beta has same icons still :S01:25
nbros652anyone here... Is there a way to unlock the new unity lock screen from the command line (the equivalent of the old gnome-screensaver-command -d)?01:40
zubuntunight01:43
f00lghi, i'm using ubuntu 14.04, i want to change lightdm background, any hint?01:49
nbros652anyone here... Is there a way to unlock the new unity lock screen from the command line (the equivalent of the old gnome-screensaver-command -d)?02:43
Beldarnbros652, How are you getting a command line there?02:44
nbros652Beldar: I don't have a command line there so much as a script that runs in the background and unlocks the screen when a particular USB device is inserted.02:45
nbros652Beldar: basically, I'm using pamusb, and the lock screen doesn't recognize the USB as applicable credentials, and I don't know of any command that can be run to unlock the screen so I can put it in the pamusb-agent.02:48
Beldarnbros652, Ah, I was just curious really, no answer on the issue.02:49
nbros652Beldar: Oh well. Thanks anyway.02:50
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jerry__is there a way  of command line upgrading to 1404:38
Beldarjerry__, yes04:56
Beldarhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/110477/how-do-i-upgrade-to-a-newer-version-of-ubuntu do at your own risk04:57
scarrzgreetz... just testing out the new lts final beta can anyone tell me how to get rid of the funky panel behaviour in gnome-session-fallback (compiz) ... it tkaes forever to load and the panel disappears when I try to shange workspaces05:52
scarrzmy bad typos05:52
bobfoxi'd like to know whether the partitioner in anaconda has been fixed yet.05:55
bobfoxderrr, ubiquity, not anaconda.05:56
AtuMwhere can i find a list of packages included in 14.04? I would like to check some packet versions06:34
AtuMsoftware version that is06:35
AtuMthere's no cman in tahr...06:38
elfyhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/06:49
elfythere was no cman in saucy either apparently06:49
AtuMelfy, but there was in 12.04.. I used it to build clusters using drbd and ocfs206:52
AtuMas I remember ocfs2 needs cman.06:52
AtuMperhaps cman is not needed now.. I have to see why i used cman in the first place :D06:55
shawnbon206omgz teh wallpaper is wrong! what horror07:06
ethermonk:P07:08
ethermonkneed more contributers07:08
shawnbon206welp. just gonna give this a chance since it was the only "user friendly" distro with an installer which would actually boot on this machine without rolling a custom iso07:11
shawnbon206going on wifeys spare computer07:11
shawnbon206yay its booting07:14
shawnbon206hmmm the wallpaper folder is empty07:15
shawnbon206IS07:15
shawnbon206they werent kidding07:15
elfyshawnbon206: nope - they weren't :)07:15
elfyand the xfce wallpaper is a bug too ;)07:16
ethermonkhuh.   ubuntu studio has wallpaper07:16
elfyit does07:17
shawnbon206what DE for ubuntu studio?07:17
ethermonkyay! i win!07:17
ethermonkxfce07:17
elfyshawnbon206 was in xubuntu  talking about xubuntu I assume07:17
shawnbon206yes07:18
elfyI am awake then :)07:18
elfyshawnbon206: you checked the known issues I guess07:18
elfyshawnbon206: be aware of the ibus issue - unless you have a US keyboard, especially if you're password has symbols in it07:19
shawnbon206eeeee07:22
shawnbon206the installer made a hybrid mbr07:22
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shawnbon206how can i tell if i am booted in efi mode?07:29
shawnbon206oh check dmesg | grep -i efi07:32
TvL2386hi guys, I've just installed 14.04 beta2 but having problem with my network interfaces. Every reboot the naming is different :S09:08
ethermonkusing wl driver?09:27
ethermonki had that on 1209:27
CyborgCygnusIt seems my Web Browser flash is now broken, doesn't play videos properly on youtube. Trying to watch the Ubuntu Edge video & there's no sound, it's frame skipping like crazy. Tried an update & restart.09:41
stegohello, does anyone here observe this behaviour? "window switcher randomly switches windows" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/129843110:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1298431 in unity (Ubuntu) "window switcher randomly switches windows" [Undecided,New]10:20
swaagienot sure if this is purely a 14.04 issue, but I decided to just update since something else borked 13.10, at least have a ubuntu-session now, however I only have one screen (of 3) which is detected as an internal monitor, gist incoming10:22
swaagiehttps://gist.github.com/Swaagie/991149110:23
swaagieonly xrandr so far, i'll add x -configure output to it and the logs10:23
oncamy windows switch as expected, I am happy to report10:28
oncathat would be very annoying10:28
swaagietried the usual reinstalling drivers: nvidia/xorg/etc10:29
stegoonca, it's annoying indeed..10:34
BluesKaj'Morning all10:38
vlad_starkovQUESTION: Ubuntu 14.04 Server 64bit. Successfully boots with 12GB RAM. Fails with 16GB RAM raising "mtrr_cleanup: can not find optimal value, please specify mtrr_gran_size/mtrr_chunk_size" errors. How to choose correct values for mtrr_gran_size and mtrr_chunk_size?11:35
vlad_starkovUbuntu 14.04 64bit Server: Strange thing (possibly BUG). System doesn't boot with BIOS settings "Memory Branch Mode -> Interleave". But successfully booted with BIOS settings "Memory Branch Mode -> Sequential". Anyone can explain me why this could happen?12:15
bekksvlad_starkov: you have to investigate what these bios settings do in detail. after you told us, we may help you.12:20
vlad_starkovbekks: page 69 http://www.supermicro.com/manuals/motherboard/5000P/MNL-0872.pdf12:21
vlad_starkovbekks: also, system boots with 12GB RAM in Interleave mode.12:21
oncahow do I properly install the radeon 8670D drivers? I've had a lot of trouble in the past with this and I don't want to render my system useless again.12:23
bekksvlad_starkov: Can you define "does not boot" in addition please?12:28
bekksvlad_starkov: What exactly happens?12:28
vlad_starkovbekks: system almost freezes and raises CPU soft lockup messages12:28
bekksWhat is "almost freezes"? Does it get very cold?12:29
vlad_starkovbekks: it does not respond to Ctrl+Alt+Del12:30
bekkswhich does not mean anything :)12:30
bekksif you get cpu soft lockups, your cpu cant handle the memory interleave ruled by your bios. dont use interleaving then.12:31
oncamy computer doubles as a spaceheater :)12:32
vlad_starkovbekks: I'm wondering what will be lost in performance then?12:33
bekksvlad_starkov: ask the mainboard manufacturer :)12:33
vlad_starkovbekks: OK ))12:33
bekksvlad_starkov: using that mode simply makes your box unusable - so the question "how much performance will I get if it would work" is out of interest.12:34
vlad_starkovbekks: I'm thinking that probably there can be solution to use memory in interleave mode12:36
vlad_starkovbekks: I'd like to test my server's performance. Can you recommend some benchmark tool?12:37
bekksvlad_starkov: the solution to your memory interleave issue is "use another cpu",12:38
bekksvlad_starkov: and which performance do you want to measure in detail?12:38
vlad_starkovbekks: CPU and memory12:42
vlad_starkovbekks: why do you think that CPU is the cause of memory interleave issue?12:42
bekksvlad_starkov: because your get cpu soft lockups?12:43
bekksvlad_starkov: which cpu do you have in detail?12:43
vlad_starkovbekks: emm, this is actually general error message in Linux Kernel as I know12:44
bekksthen you know something wrong ;)12:44
bekksit just means: "I dont know how to handle this situation".12:44
bekksand since "the situation" refers to memory interleave, it means "I, the cpu, dont know how to handle the memory interleave",12:45
bekksvlad_starkov: So which cpu do you have exactly?12:46
vlad_starkovbekks: this is not correct, as this problem appears in Ubuntu, and does not appear in Grml Linux.12:48
bekksvlad_starkov: So which cpu do you have exactly?12:49
vlad_starkovbekks: E534512:49
bekksFord E5345?12:49
vlad_starkov:)12:52
bekksvlad_starkov: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E5345+%40+2.33GHz&id=1230 - there is your cpu benchmark. and for memory benchmarks, you have to klnow how your application(s) will use/access memory, and you have to see how it works, actually.12:53
vlad_starkovbekks: ok thanks12:57
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xroHi, i just upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04... all works well but i have log in 2 times... Is it a known issue?14:28
sydneyJDykstraWhy is it that whenever i try to boot ubuntu trusty from a CD, it shows a blank screen. I have it set correct in the BIOS,because it starts to boot from it.14:48
sydneyJDykstraIs that a bug?14:52
sydneyJDykstraHas no one had that problem so far?14:54
kruxiso could be bad did you check it ?14:57
xrosorry, no idea14:57
sydneyJDykstrakrux:  It works in my other computer.14:57
Artemis3sydneyJDykstra, maybe a problem with grub graphic setting/resolution?15:01
sydneyJDykstraI will try some different settings.15:01
ghutziophi, I'm trying to install lubuntu 14.04 with full disk encryption. but the generic option just doesn't work and I don't know how to configure a subdevice for a crypto-volume15:41
ballPointPenguin14.04 + Macbook Pro retina could be a good time16:15
ballPointPenguinanybody familiar with the status of Cairo on 'trusty'16:19
Yoshi2889So uh I accidentally scaled Ubuntu a bit bigger than I'd like, now I can't change it back to 116:49
Yoshi2889Or, well, find the control to change it back16:49
Yoshi2889Any ideas on what config files or something I may edit?16:49
DaekdroomYoshi2889, Try System Settings > Monitors (or is it Screens in English?)16:51
Yoshi2889Yeah that's my problem, I can't see the control :P16:51
Yoshi2889Displays it is16:51
DaekdroomHm.16:51
Yoshi2889I put it at 4, which is...a bit too big16:51
Yoshi2889Can you do tab-tab-tab-tab and reach it? If so can you tell me how many tabs? :P16:52
DaekdroomYoshi2889, can't you try to tab your way around the controls?16:52
DaekdroomHm.16:52
Yoshi2889lol16:52
DaekdroomYoshi2889, 816:52
Yoshi2889Can't change it with the arrow keys or it is not the correct control16:54
Yoshi2889Actually16:54
Yoshi2889Alt tab to the rescue16:54
Yoshi2889I can see what control I am on there :P16:54
DaekdroomIt can be changed with the arrow keys btw.16:55
Daekdroomand turns out just entering the Display settings and pressing Shift + TAB once works.16:56
gigixHi guys, is anyone having troubles running trusty on AMD graphics16:56
gigixI have a DELL laptop with AMD graphics, tried a fresh install of trusty beta 2, but I get a low-graphics pop-up and no lightdm session16:57
Yoshi2889You can't drag windows up either :|16:57
Yoshi2889Nailed it with workspaces17:00
Yoshi2889The bottom part of the window was apparently stuck on a workspace :P17:00
SydneyJDykstraAre they going to install more drivers in ubuntu trusty before its release?17:01
Yoshi2889Drivers, like?17:01
SydneyJDykstraYoshi2889: graphics17:01
Yoshi2889The kernel includes drivers for Intel, AMD and Nvidia (albeit crappy), what else do you want?17:02
Yoshi2889Probably even more17:02
Yoshi2889Daekdroom: At least I can't say the scaling doesn't work. :P17:02
SydneyJDykstraYoshi2889:  I am not able to boot the live cd. It shows the grub screen then it goes blank.17:03
bekks!nomodeset | SydneyJDykstra17:03
ubottuSydneyJDykstra: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter17:03
Yoshi2889When booting, hit F6, and select "nomodeset"17:03
Yoshi2889Ninja'd17:03
SydneyJDykstraYoshi2889:  Ok, thanks for the info.Now i have to wait for my brothe to get off my computer.17:04
Yoshi2889Kick him off :P17:04
gigixSydneyJDykstra: I second what Yoshi2889 said, nomodeset usually solves the problem17:05
SydneyJDykstraYoshi2889:  But why then can I boot my 12.04 and 13.10 cd?17:05
Yoshi2889SydneyJDykstra: No idea, your card is weird/old?17:05
gigixSydneyJDykstra: what hardware are we talking about ?17:06
SydneyJDykstraYoshi2889:  A dell xps 410. it is 8 years old.17:06
Yoshi2889With what GPU?17:06
SydneyJDykstra I don't know. I do know it is a 512mb card.17:07
Yoshi2889Yeah I know many 512 MB cards :P17:07
gigixamd ? nvidia ?17:07
Yoshi2889or ATI17:08
Yoshi2889dunno if that was back then17:08
SydneyJDykstranvidia,but thats all I know. I am looking it up right now.17:08
Yoshi2889yeah nouveau is pretty crappy17:08
Yoshi2889i mean they did a great job getting it usable but still pretty crap regardless17:08
SydneyJDykstraI am not sure what card it is...17:15
Yoshi2889Nvidia GeForce 7900 GS?17:16
shawnbon206how do i disable the ads?17:19
Yoshi2889What ads?17:19
SydneyJDykstraYoshi2889:  It doesn't have a fan.17:19
Yoshi2889SydneyJDykstra: Possible :P17:19
SydneyJDykstrashawnbon206:  What do mean by adds?17:19
shawnbon206the amazon search suggestions17:20
Yoshi2889System Settings > Privacy > Search17:20
shawnbon206that disables all online search17:23
SydneyJDykstraWhat will happen when I upgrade ubuntu to lubuntu? Right now I am running ubuntu with lxde added later.17:23
shawnbon206i only want to disable the ads17:23
BluesKajnouveau worked quite well with my nvidia 8400GS on kubuntu at first, but after some upgrades the OpenGL/Raster settings in desktop effects/Kwin  wasn't able to hold the settings, so an upgrade to the 331 driver was needed. However even now the OpenGL/Raster settings fail due to a bug in kde/kwin. Dunno how unity/gnome is affected tho.17:24
Yoshi2889SydneyJDykstra: not much17:25
Yoshi2889shawnbon206: what ads?17:25
Yoshi2889the amazon search suggestions *are* the online search things17:25
shawnbon206e.g. i want sound cloud to work, but when i search my PC for videos i shouldnt see $19.99 on amazon, thats kinda depressing. dont get me wrong, we shop on amazon, but thats not where i want to see it17:25
Yoshi2889yeah it's either showing the prices or not showing anything at all17:25
SydneyJDykstraYoshi2889: I know that,but will it keep my unity interface and add lubuntu's on top of that?17:26
BluesKajthat's canonical heading down the enterprise route17:26
Yoshi2889SydneyJDykstra: probably, check what it removes and whatnot17:26
shawnbon206in previous versions you could uninstall a package with apt-get. they fixed that?17:26
Yoshi2889uh17:26
Yoshi2889sudo apt-get remove [package] still exists17:26
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Yoshi2889i don't think that will change anytime soon17:27
shawnbon206no, to remove the ads17:27
Yoshi2889that removes the search provider17:27
Yoshi2889so won't show anything at all17:27
Yoshi2889like i said, either cope with the prices or disable it17:27
Yoshi2889i disabled it as i find it spyware17:28
shawnbon206in 12.10 you could apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping17:28
toyotapieHello, I just installed a custom vanilla kernel on my ubuntu 14.04 Beta. When I try and log in the lightdm logon interface, the logon fails and it comes back to the logon screen. Which log might contain useful info? not xorg log because X starts fine, and it's not because of the encrypted fs, I fixed that already. Thax17:28
Yoshi2889once again that removes the entire shopping thing17:28
shawnbon206then the online search would still work without the prices17:28
stakedhey folks. could someone point me to a link to upgrade to the 14.04 beta from the command line? all the guides I'm finding only talk about using the update-manager gui.17:28
Yoshi2889toyotapie: remove ~/.Xauthority and try again17:28
Yoshi2889staked: your best bet is to change the repos to use trusty instead of 13.1017:29
SydneyJDykstraYoshi2889: will I only have to use nomedeset when i boot the cd,or will it fix its problem when I upgrade?17:29
Yoshi2889SydneyJDykstra: it might, it might not17:29
Yoshi2889when it doesn't boot use nomodeset again17:29
stakedYoshi2889: ha, cool. was thinking it would be more difficult than that. :-)17:30
toyotapienevermind, I found the issue. Looks like either something changed in the kernel between what I installed and 14.04 or the graphics driver is freaking out because of the recent version of X17:30
toyotapiedang.17:30
toyotapiethanks17:30
Yoshi2889ugh. I still need to do my homework17:30
SydneyJDykstraYoshi2889: Thanks!!17:32
Yoshi2889fun, grub updates17:35
toyotapieHow badly will I break my Ubuntu 14.04 if I remove xserver 7.7 and replace it with 6.9 ?17:38
Yoshi2889pretty bad I think17:39
toyotapieok17:39
Yoshi2889it will take down a whole lot of other stuff with it iirc17:39
Yoshi2889maybe even all things to do with graphics17:39
toyotapieok.17:39
toyotapieWell, I replaced the default kernel with a custom compile of Linux Vanilla 3.4.18. Now X doesn't work, but I think X doesn't work because of the stupid graphics driver that won't work with anything past linux 3.4 or xserver 6.917:40
Yoshi2889why are you downgrading the kernel?17:40
toyotapieMy ATI graphics card for my laptop works very poorly with the open source driver ( computer runs about 40 degrees hotter on open source driver ), but ATI doesn't support the card any more, so the last fglrx release that supports my card only runs on Linux 3.4 or less and xserver 6.9 or less.17:41
Yoshi2889linux doesn't have a built-in driver for your gpu?17:41
Yoshi2889oh17:41
Yoshi2889might want to use debian perhaps17:41
Yoshi2889i think they still use an old kernel17:41
toyotapiereally?17:42
toyotapieI think i'll have a look17:42
toyotapieI don't want to leave Ubuntu, but I fear I have no choice.17:42
toyotapieI was a debian user before I switch to Ubuntu back in 2007. Gentoo before that.17:42
Yoshi2889kernel: Linux 3.217:42
Yoshi2889don't worry, most packages available for ubuntu are also available for debian in some form17:43
toyotapieyea, but I liked Ubuntu because I had, excluding desktop stuff, the same configuration as my servers17:44
toyotapieI ran a MySQL/PHP/apache2 on my laptop, I could develop on my laptop and know that the software would react identically to the servers.17:45
toyotapie*sigh*17:45
Yoshi2889hmm17:45
Yoshi2889no identical php/mysql versions for debian?17:45
toyotapieProbably, but more of a pain.17:45
toyotapieit's better to be on a working debian than an overheating ubuntu17:45
Yoshi2889not really, if you find a debian package you can just install it17:45
Yoshi2889hell mysql might not even care about the php version17:46
toyotapieDownloading debian now.17:46
toyotapiethanks Yoshi288917:47
Yoshi2889:) no problem17:47
toyotapieI have to go to confessional now.17:47
Yoshi2889actually17:47
toyotapieyea17:47
Yoshi2889maybe elementary OS is a better idea17:47
toyotapieI seriously considered switching to gentoo this morning..17:47
Yoshi2889http://elementaryos.org/17:47
Yoshi2889based on Ubuntu 12.04, ships with either kernel 3.4 or 3.2 (don't remember)17:48
toyotapieI like this, I searched 'Elementary OS Kernel', first page is a guy complaining his graphics card won't work on linux 3.5 and up17:48
BluesKajswitch to gentoo then, but I predict you'll be back :)17:48
Yoshi2889lol17:49
toyotapienah, I am not going back to Gentoo. I spent 6 months on Gentoo after I left Suse and before I went to Debian. It was a great learning experience, but everything was always broken.17:49
Yoshi2889I wish eOS shipped with some more modern backbone17:49
toyotapieI eventually moved from debian to Ubuntu because Ubuntu "just worked"17:49
Yoshi2889Kernel 3.10 is the first which supports my Wifi card17:49
SydneyJDykstraOr Sohuld I upgrade ubuntu right in the desktop enviroment?17:51
Yoshi2889from where to where again?17:52
SwedeMikeYoshi2889: there are newer kernels and wifi drivers available for 12.04. You don't need to upgrade entire ubuntu. Look for backport-wireless or whatever it's called.17:52
SydneyJDykstra12.04 to 14.04.  I don't plan on doing it till trusty comes out. Do you think that they will fix it so i don't have to do nomedeset?17:53
SwedeMikecompat-wireless.17:53
Yoshi2889SwedeMike: Yeah I know, I updated my kernel in eOS before17:53
Yoshi2889SydneyJDykstra: I have no idea, possible. I do think you can upgrade 12.04 to 14.04 once it comes out17:54
SydneyJDykstraYoshi2889:  Oh,well. I guess we will find out when it comes out. nomedeset did work. Thanks.17:55
Yoshi2889I still hope more apps will implement touch-based scrolling17:56
Yoshi2889Especially browsers17:56
jrajavHeya18:00
jrajavI'm getting a black screen (with a cursor at the top left) after the boot splash logo with Ubuntu 14.04 on a retina Macbook Pro18:00
jrajavIf I set nomodeset on boot it doesn't even get to the splash logo - just a blank purple screen18:01
jrajavIs there any way I can debug this? Kind of frustrating to not see any errors18:01
Beldar!nomodeset | jrajav read the link18:01
ubottujrajav read the link: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter18:01
lotuspsychjekwoot: what garphics card and driver?18:01
kwootStrange terminal screen in virt-manager session: http://imagebin.org/303210. Good luck with this one :-)18:02
jrajavBeldar: I just said, I already tried that.18:02
Beldarjrajav, Ah, sorry I missed that, have you checked the sum of the iso?18:02
lotuspsychjekwoot: lshw -C video18:02
jrajavIt's an installed system18:03
jrajavI installed latest 13 just fine18:03
jrajavAnd then did a dist upgrade to 14.0418:03
jrajavIt ran fine for a few boot cycles and then started doing this after I changed some Xorg options18:03
jrajavI managed to boot to text mode just now18:03
jrajavUgh. I do 'sudo service lightdm start' and all it gives me is 'start: Job failed to start'18:04
jrajavSome descriptive errors once in a while would be great :|18:04
kwootguest says: GD 5446, Cirrus Logic. Host has nvidia card.18:04
Yoshi2889jrajav: cat /etc/x11/xorg.0.log18:04
jrajavYoshi2889: No such file18:05
Yoshi2889then where was it :|18:05
Yoshi2889hmm18:05
Beldarjrajav, since you have done a X mod that seems to be part of the issue I would include details of that in your inquiry, not an area I can really help though.18:05
jrajavBeldar: Yeah that's what I suspect of course but I need to know what the exact error was18:06
Yoshi2889jrajav: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log18:06
jrajavOh, I just found a misplaced quote. Let's see if that fixes it18:06
jrajavsigh18:06
jrajavIt did :P18:06
Yoshi2889lol18:07
jrajavThanks a lot for your help guys18:07
jrajavYoshi2889: I'll remember that for the future18:07
Yoshi2889you fixed it yourself :P have fun18:07
jrajavAnd I'll check it now to see if it was actually helpful18:07
Yoshi2889knowing X it's probably full of garbage18:07
jrajavOh, another question18:08
jrajavWhen Trusty Tahr is released do I need to do anything?18:08
jrajavOr will my beta release automatically roll up?18:08
Yoshi2889update18:08
Yoshi2889I guess so18:08
jrajavdist upgrade or just update?18:08
lotuspsychjekwoot: any driver can be installed at 'additional drivers' section?18:08
Yoshi2889jrajav: I'd do both18:09
akiva-mobileQUESTION: So... was canonical bought by facebook?18:09
akiva-mobileQUESTION: Ubuntu Desktop Sound Themes have remained the same for quite some time, and despite the occassional plan dropped to have them replaced, they have stuck around. Are there any plans to do new desktop sounds?18:09
Yoshi2889wut, facebook bought canonical?18:09
jrajavcough april 1 cough18:10
lotuspsychjelol18:10
toyotapiewhich chat room should I use to complain and vent about linux?18:11
shawnbon206for the ubuntu+mac iso is it recommended  to install on a drive with a mbr or guid table?18:11
lotuspsychje<°))))-<18:11
Beldar!mac18:11
ubottuFor help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages18:11
Beldarshawnbon206, ^^^^^^^^^^^18:11
shawnbon206ive read all that before.18:13
ballPointPenguinthat Mactel Community Help Page is spare and outdated18:13
shawnbon206exactly18:13
ballPointPenguin(of course I should try to make it better instead of criticizing it)18:14
ballPointPenguinI find this to be a generally good resource re: Macbook + Linux https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Macbook18:15
shawnbon206i will just have to reverse engineer the installer i suppose18:15
lotuspsychjethere's an article about trusty on retina here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/03/ubuntu-14-04-beta-released18:15
lotuspsychjemaybe the final release will solve it?18:15
ballPointPenguinI've had a pretty good time installing variously Arch, openSUSE, and Fedora on my MacBook retina (mid-2012)18:18
shawnbon206does anyone know what the 1mb partition is for? from the guided partitioning18:18
ballPointPenguinnone of those have a Mac installer. I just boot from an ISO on a thumb drive and use rEFInd18:19
shawnbon206fedora has a mac installer18:19
ballPointPenguinok. I didn't use it, iirc18:19
shawnbon206anaconda installs faux hfs+ esp and mactel-boot by default18:20
ballPointPenguinFedora 20, astonishingly, worked the best out-of-the-box on the retina. Ubuntu 13.04 was a dud. I'll give 14.04 beta a shot.18:20
Beldarlets not forget this is a support channel, not a chat18:21
shawnbon206ubuntu when i installed it it automatically put a hybrid mbr partition on my gpt drive18:21
ballPointPenguini thought this was a "discussion" channel18:21
Beldarthere is a off topic channel #ubuntu-offtopic18:21
shawnbon206instead of making a faux esp.. thats why i was confused18:21
Beldarnot really discussion is all, if related to a user need maybe.18:22
Beldarand ubuntu related18:22
shawnbon206theres no documentation which explains the assumptions the makers of the installer had18:22
shawnbon206omg. before i installed i converted the drive into mbr and then ran the installer. to my surprise the installer converted it back to guid and then hybridized it18:28
shawnbon206????18:28
bekksHow id you "convert" it to mbr?18:29
shawnbon206gparted> new partition table18:30
shawnbon206msdos18:30
shawnbon206..save18:30
bekksthats not converting, thats just creating a new partition table :)18:30
shawnbon206that means the same thing18:30
bekksIt doesnt :)18:32
shawnbon206youre thinking of converting without data loss18:32
bekksIt doesnt affect the GPT partition table at all.18:32
shawnbon206no, gpt is gone18:32
shawnbon206you can prove this by opening gdisk afterwards18:32
shawnbon206after then install gpt is present and mbr is hybrid. this is not desirable for a single boot machine18:33
shawnbon206s/then/the18:33
bekksso gpt wasnt removed. As I said.18:34
shawnbon206basically its a generic way that will "work" on all macs, so i understand why they did it. but it has risks which are unneccisary single boot systems18:35
bekks??18:35
bekksHow are macs supported by oracle?18:35
shawnbon206oracle?18:36
bekksSorry, channel confusion :D18:36
bekksI had a similar discussion in another channel seconds ago :D18:36
shawnbon206oh lol i was beginning to think you were just a troll18:36
shawnbon206well i can just do manual partitioning and then hopefully the installer wont touch it18:37
bekks!uefi18:37
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI18:37
shawnbon206why are you showing me that18:38
shawnbon206are you implying i dont know enough about that? i most certainly do know enough18:39
shawnbon206i think its you which needs to brush up18:39
shawnbon206s/which/who18:39
bekksWell. No one forces you to read. And no one forces me to help you any further.18:40
shawnbon206i read everything there is to read and understood it thoroughly and i have done tons and tons of little experiments to prove those concepts to make sure i didnt misunderstand them18:41
shawnbon206i am tired of people pasting radom links which have nothing to do with anything18:42
* Beldar looks for his copy of the worlds smallest violin18:43
Yoshi2889Yay, Trillian runs in Wine.18:43
shawnbon206:) Beldar18:43
Yoshi2889Bit slow but it runs18:44
Beldarshawnbon206, You are not going to do very well here on any channel asking for help, by reading/projecting meaning to help.18:45
shawnbon206its clear that i know more about this issue than the people who are offering to help. if people dont know they shouldn't pretend like they do, it is frustrating to waste all that breath on somebody just to find out theyre a fraud18:49
shawnbon206this never happens in the #debian channel, people dont take questions unless they understand them18:49
Yoshi2889shawnbon206: what was your question?18:50
shawnbon206my drive is MBR when i start the installer, i do guided partitioning and it converts it to a guid drive with hybrid mbr and makes a 1mb bios boot partition. behavior expected: 2 mbr partitions on a mbr only drive, one for / and the other swap. no dangerous hybridization for a system which doesnt require it18:53
shawnbon206my turn to post something: http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/hybrid.html18:54
oncaIs there a way to get modules or plugins for compiz? I know that I had more options than this before.18:57
oncaJust trying to get this machine back to it's former glory.18:57
johnjohn101onca,did install compiz setting manager?18:58
oncayah and the choices are few18:58
oncaCompizConfig settings manager18:58
johnjohn101did you install the compiz extras?18:58
oncano.18:58
oncaI should find that18:59
johnjohn101compiz-plugins-extra.  that's basically all you can install. i haven't found anything else and i miss the snow plugin19:01
jrajavI'm having a problem with text scaling on a retina display19:45
jrajavIf I set "Scale for menu and title bars" in the graphical System Settings everything looks fine at first19:46
jrajavHowever after a while (maybe after the display sleeps?), the text scaling is set too high19:46
jrajavIf I set the text-scaling-factor manually to 1 on the console then everything returns to normal19:46
daniellI'm having a hanging login screen after the first post-install boot of xubuntu 14.0419:46
daniellremoved everything on the / partition and used my old /home partition as /home19:47
ironhalikHello20:14
ironhalikare there any issues with latest trusty and efi systems?20:14
ironhalikit seems my installation got completely borked after update20:14
shawnbon206yo20:55
shawnbon206i did manually partition my drive before installing and my notions turned out to be correct20:55
shawnbon206the mbr only drive booted fine without partition hybridization or bios-boot partition20:56
shawnbon206the benefit here is now i can use 3rd party partitioning software and other maintinence utilities wothout bricking my install21:01
ironhalikhmm, I managed to boot my ubuntu by switching it to good ol BIOS boot21:04
ironhalikbut now the kernel seems borked, nothing work,s not even the keyboard21:05
ironhalikthats fun21:05
akiva-mobilebah just when I was finished building unity... i can't access the menubar anymore  in qt creator :/21:28
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trismanyone noticing corruption in gnome-terminal/lxterminal when running in kvm? xterm/sakura seem to work fine, kind of strange22:23
trismscreenshot for reference: http://imagebin.org/303243 , that's lxterminal, gnome-terminal looks much the same, doesn't update properly on input although the commands still work, you just can't see them22:34
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