[00:20] how can i add the numix theme in 14.04 [01:12] hello ubuntu 14.04 room :p [01:12] so [01:12] will the new icon theme be available for 14.o4 or not ? [01:13] seems u are sleeping :/ [01:14] hello people [01:14] wake up wake up :p [01:18] zubuntu, i guess not, since it is currently under a user interface freeze [01:18] wolfy1339: :S [01:18] bad news [01:19] why not ? [01:20] is there a way to download and install new icon theme for my 12.04 ? [01:20] beta release maybe ? [01:22] there is a final beta for 14.04 [01:23] wolfy1339: just icon theme i mean [01:23] http://design.canonical.com/wp-content/uploads/2-application-icons.jpg [01:23] these ones [01:24] i dunno [01:25] http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6kzyhS6GmCM/UzPxQtjM3pI/AAAAAAAAR-E/iiJIbqgAT0g/s1600/ubuntu-14.04.png [01:25] final beta has same icons still :S [01:40] anyone here... Is there a way to unlock the new unity lock screen from the command line (the equivalent of the old gnome-screensaver-command -d)? [01:43] night [01:49] hi, i'm using ubuntu 14.04, i want to change lightdm background, any hint? [02:43] anyone here... Is there a way to unlock the new unity lock screen from the command line (the equivalent of the old gnome-screensaver-command -d)? [02:44] nbros652, How are you getting a command line there? [02:45] Beldar: I don't have a command line there so much as a script that runs in the background and unlocks the screen when a particular USB device is inserted. [02:48] Beldar: basically, I'm using pamusb, and the lock screen doesn't recognize the USB as applicable credentials, and I don't know of any command that can be run to unlock the screen so I can put it in the pamusb-agent. [02:49] nbros652, Ah, I was just curious really, no answer on the issue. [02:50] Beldar: Oh well. Thanks anyway. === jje is now known as Guest53606 === jje_ is now known as jje [04:38] is there a way of command line upgrading to 14 [04:56] jerry__, yes [04:57] http://askubuntu.com/questions/110477/how-do-i-upgrade-to-a-newer-version-of-ubuntu do at your own risk [05:52] greetz... just testing out the new lts final beta can anyone tell me how to get rid of the funky panel behaviour in gnome-session-fallback (compiz) ... it tkaes forever to load and the panel disappears when I try to shange workspaces [05:52] my bad typos [05:55] i'd like to know whether the partitioner in anaconda has been fixed yet. [05:56] derrr, ubiquity, not anaconda. [06:34] where can i find a list of packages included in 14.04? I would like to check some packet versions [06:35] software version that is [06:38] there's no cman in tahr... [06:49] http://packages.ubuntu.com/ [06:49] there was no cman in saucy either apparently [06:52] elfy, but there was in 12.04.. I used it to build clusters using drbd and ocfs2 [06:52] as I remember ocfs2 needs cman. [06:55] perhaps cman is not needed now.. I have to see why i used cman in the first place :D [07:06] omgz teh wallpaper is wrong! what horror [07:08] :P [07:08] need more contributers [07:11] welp. just gonna give this a chance since it was the only "user friendly" distro with an installer which would actually boot on this machine without rolling a custom iso [07:11] going on wifeys spare computer [07:14] yay its booting [07:15] hmmm the wallpaper folder is empty [07:15] IS [07:15] they werent kidding [07:15] shawnbon206: nope - they weren't :) [07:16] and the xfce wallpaper is a bug too ;) [07:16] huh. ubuntu studio has wallpaper [07:17] it does [07:17] what DE for ubuntu studio? [07:17] yay! i win! [07:17] xfce [07:17] shawnbon206 was in xubuntu talking about xubuntu I assume [07:18] yes [07:18] I am awake then :) [07:18] shawnbon206: you checked the known issues I guess [07:19] shawnbon206: be aware of the ibus issue - unless you have a US keyboard, especially if you're password has symbols in it [07:22] eeeee [07:22] the installer made a hybrid mbr === soee_ is now known as soee [07:29] how can i tell if i am booted in efi mode? [07:32] oh check dmesg | grep -i efi [09:08] hi guys, I've just installed 14.04 beta2 but having problem with my network interfaces. Every reboot the naming is different :S [09:27] using wl driver? [09:27] i had that on 12 [09:41] It seems my Web Browser flash is now broken, doesn't play videos properly on youtube. Trying to watch the Ubuntu Edge video & there's no sound, it's frame skipping like crazy. Tried an update & restart. [10:20] hello, does anyone here observe this behaviour? "window switcher randomly switches windows" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1298431 [10:20] Launchpad bug 1298431 in unity (Ubuntu) "window switcher randomly switches windows" [Undecided,New] [10:22] not sure if this is purely a 14.04 issue, but I decided to just update since something else borked 13.10, at least have a ubuntu-session now, however I only have one screen (of 3) which is detected as an internal monitor, gist incoming [10:23] https://gist.github.com/Swaagie/9911491 [10:23] only xrandr so far, i'll add x -configure output to it and the logs [10:28] my windows switch as expected, I am happy to report [10:28] that would be very annoying [10:29] tried the usual reinstalling drivers: nvidia/xorg/etc [10:34] onca, it's annoying indeed.. [10:38] 'Morning all [11:35] QUESTION: Ubuntu 14.04 Server 64bit. Successfully boots with 12GB RAM. Fails with 16GB RAM raising "mtrr_cleanup: can not find optimal value, please specify mtrr_gran_size/mtrr_chunk_size" errors. How to choose correct values for mtrr_gran_size and mtrr_chunk_size? [12:15] Ubuntu 14.04 64bit Server: Strange thing (possibly BUG). System doesn't boot with BIOS settings "Memory Branch Mode -> Interleave". But successfully booted with BIOS settings "Memory Branch Mode -> Sequential". Anyone can explain me why this could happen? [12:20] vlad_starkov: you have to investigate what these bios settings do in detail. after you told us, we may help you. [12:21] bekks: page 69 http://www.supermicro.com/manuals/motherboard/5000P/MNL-0872.pdf [12:21] bekks: also, system boots with 12GB RAM in Interleave mode. [12:23] how do I properly install the radeon 8670D drivers? I've had a lot of trouble in the past with this and I don't want to render my system useless again. [12:28] vlad_starkov: Can you define "does not boot" in addition please? [12:28] vlad_starkov: What exactly happens? [12:28] bekks: system almost freezes and raises CPU soft lockup messages [12:29] What is "almost freezes"? Does it get very cold? [12:30] bekks: it does not respond to Ctrl+Alt+Del [12:30] which does not mean anything :) [12:31] if you get cpu soft lockups, your cpu cant handle the memory interleave ruled by your bios. dont use interleaving then. [12:32] my computer doubles as a spaceheater :) [12:33] bekks: I'm wondering what will be lost in performance then? [12:33] vlad_starkov: ask the mainboard manufacturer :) [12:33] bekks: OK )) [12:34] vlad_starkov: using that mode simply makes your box unusable - so the question "how much performance will I get if it would work" is out of interest. [12:36] bekks: I'm thinking that probably there can be solution to use memory in interleave mode [12:37] bekks: I'd like to test my server's performance. Can you recommend some benchmark tool? [12:38] vlad_starkov: the solution to your memory interleave issue is "use another cpu", [12:38] vlad_starkov: and which performance do you want to measure in detail? [12:42] bekks: CPU and memory [12:42] bekks: why do you think that CPU is the cause of memory interleave issue? [12:43] vlad_starkov: because your get cpu soft lockups? [12:43] vlad_starkov: which cpu do you have in detail? [12:44] bekks: emm, this is actually general error message in Linux Kernel as I know [12:44] then you know something wrong ;) [12:44] it just means: "I dont know how to handle this situation". [12:45] and since "the situation" refers to memory interleave, it means "I, the cpu, dont know how to handle the memory interleave", [12:46] vlad_starkov: So which cpu do you have exactly? [12:48] bekks: this is not correct, as this problem appears in Ubuntu, and does not appear in Grml Linux. [12:49] vlad_starkov: So which cpu do you have exactly? [12:49] bekks: E5345 [12:49] Ford E5345? [12:52] :) [12:53] vlad_starkov: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E5345+%40+2.33GHz&id=1230 - there is your cpu benchmark. and for memory benchmarks, you have to klnow how your application(s) will use/access memory, and you have to see how it works, actually. [12:57] bekks: ok thanks === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina [14:28] Hi, i just upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04... all works well but i have log in 2 times... Is it a known issue? [14:48] Why is it that whenever i try to boot ubuntu trusty from a CD, it shows a blank screen. I have it set correct in the BIOS,because it starts to boot from it. [14:52] Is that a bug? [14:54] Has no one had that problem so far? [14:57] iso could be bad did you check it ? [14:57] sorry, no idea [14:57] krux: It works in my other computer. [15:01] sydneyJDykstra, maybe a problem with grub graphic setting/resolution? [15:01] I will try some different settings. [15:41] hi, I'm trying to install lubuntu 14.04 with full disk encryption. but the generic option just doesn't work and I don't know how to configure a subdevice for a crypto-volume [16:15] 14.04 + Macbook Pro retina could be a good time [16:19] anybody familiar with the status of Cairo on 'trusty' [16:49] So uh I accidentally scaled Ubuntu a bit bigger than I'd like, now I can't change it back to 1 [16:49] Or, well, find the control to change it back [16:49] Any ideas on what config files or something I may edit? [16:51] Yoshi2889, Try System Settings > Monitors (or is it Screens in English?) [16:51] Yeah that's my problem, I can't see the control :P [16:51] Displays it is [16:51] Hm. [16:51] I put it at 4, which is...a bit too big [16:52] Can you do tab-tab-tab-tab and reach it? If so can you tell me how many tabs? :P [16:52] Yoshi2889, can't you try to tab your way around the controls? [16:52] Hm. [16:52] lol [16:52] Yoshi2889, 8 [16:54] Can't change it with the arrow keys or it is not the correct control [16:54] Actually [16:54] Alt tab to the rescue [16:54] I can see what control I am on there :P [16:55] It can be changed with the arrow keys btw. [16:56] and turns out just entering the Display settings and pressing Shift + TAB once works. [16:56] Hi guys, is anyone having troubles running trusty on AMD graphics [16:57] I have a DELL laptop with AMD graphics, tried a fresh install of trusty beta 2, but I get a low-graphics pop-up and no lightdm session [16:57] You can't drag windows up either :| [17:00] Nailed it with workspaces [17:00] The bottom part of the window was apparently stuck on a workspace :P [17:01] Are they going to install more drivers in ubuntu trusty before its release? [17:01] Drivers, like? [17:01] Yoshi2889: graphics [17:02] The kernel includes drivers for Intel, AMD and Nvidia (albeit crappy), what else do you want? [17:02] Probably even more [17:02] Daekdroom: At least I can't say the scaling doesn't work. :P [17:03] Yoshi2889: I am not able to boot the live cd. It shows the grub screen then it goes blank. [17:03] !nomodeset | SydneyJDykstra [17:03] SydneyJDykstra: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [17:03] When booting, hit F6, and select "nomodeset" [17:03] Ninja'd [17:04] Yoshi2889: Ok, thanks for the info.Now i have to wait for my brothe to get off my computer. [17:04] Kick him off :P [17:05] SydneyJDykstra: I second what Yoshi2889 said, nomodeset usually solves the problem [17:05] Yoshi2889: But why then can I boot my 12.04 and 13.10 cd? [17:05] SydneyJDykstra: No idea, your card is weird/old? [17:06] SydneyJDykstra: what hardware are we talking about ? [17:06] Yoshi2889: A dell xps 410. it is 8 years old. [17:06] With what GPU? [17:07] I don't know. I do know it is a 512mb card. [17:07] Yeah I know many 512 MB cards :P [17:07] amd ? nvidia ? [17:08] or ATI [17:08] dunno if that was back then [17:08] nvidia,but thats all I know. I am looking it up right now. [17:08] yeah nouveau is pretty crappy [17:08] i mean they did a great job getting it usable but still pretty crap regardless [17:15] I am not sure what card it is... [17:16] Nvidia GeForce 7900 GS? [17:19] how do i disable the ads? [17:19] What ads? [17:19] Yoshi2889: It doesn't have a fan. [17:19] SydneyJDykstra: Possible :P [17:19] shawnbon206: What do mean by adds? [17:20] the amazon search suggestions [17:20] System Settings > Privacy > Search [17:23] that disables all online search [17:23] What will happen when I upgrade ubuntu to lubuntu? Right now I am running ubuntu with lxde added later. [17:23] i only want to disable the ads [17:24] nouveau worked quite well with my nvidia 8400GS on kubuntu at first, but after some upgrades the OpenGL/Raster settings in desktop effects/Kwin wasn't able to hold the settings, so an upgrade to the 331 driver was needed. However even now the OpenGL/Raster settings fail due to a bug in kde/kwin. Dunno how unity/gnome is affected tho. [17:25] SydneyJDykstra: not much [17:25] shawnbon206: what ads? [17:25] the amazon search suggestions *are* the online search things [17:25] e.g. i want sound cloud to work, but when i search my PC for videos i shouldnt see $19.99 on amazon, thats kinda depressing. dont get me wrong, we shop on amazon, but thats not where i want to see it [17:25] yeah it's either showing the prices or not showing anything at all [17:26] Yoshi2889: I know that,but will it keep my unity interface and add lubuntu's on top of that? [17:26] that's canonical heading down the enterprise route [17:26] SydneyJDykstra: probably, check what it removes and whatnot [17:26] in previous versions you could uninstall a package with apt-get. they fixed that? [17:26] uh [17:26] sudo apt-get remove [package] still exists === staked_ is now known as staked [17:27] i don't think that will change anytime soon [17:27] no, to remove the ads [17:27] that removes the search provider [17:27] so won't show anything at all [17:27] like i said, either cope with the prices or disable it [17:28] i disabled it as i find it spyware [17:28] in 12.10 you could apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping [17:28] Hello, I just installed a custom vanilla kernel on my ubuntu 14.04 Beta. When I try and log in the lightdm logon interface, the logon fails and it comes back to the logon screen. Which log might contain useful info? not xorg log because X starts fine, and it's not because of the encrypted fs, I fixed that already. Thax [17:28] once again that removes the entire shopping thing [17:28] then the online search would still work without the prices [17:28] hey folks. could someone point me to a link to upgrade to the 14.04 beta from the command line? all the guides I'm finding only talk about using the update-manager gui. [17:28] toyotapie: remove ~/.Xauthority and try again [17:29] staked: your best bet is to change the repos to use trusty instead of 13.10 [17:29] Yoshi2889: will I only have to use nomedeset when i boot the cd,or will it fix its problem when I upgrade? [17:29] SydneyJDykstra: it might, it might not [17:29] when it doesn't boot use nomodeset again [17:30] Yoshi2889: ha, cool. was thinking it would be more difficult than that. :-) [17:30] nevermind, I found the issue. Looks like either something changed in the kernel between what I installed and 14.04 or the graphics driver is freaking out because of the recent version of X [17:30] dang. [17:30] thanks [17:30] ugh. I still need to do my homework [17:32] Yoshi2889: Thanks!! [17:35] fun, grub updates [17:38] How badly will I break my Ubuntu 14.04 if I remove xserver 7.7 and replace it with 6.9 ? [17:39] pretty bad I think [17:39] ok [17:39] it will take down a whole lot of other stuff with it iirc [17:39] maybe even all things to do with graphics [17:39] ok. [17:40] Well, I replaced the default kernel with a custom compile of Linux Vanilla 3.4.18. Now X doesn't work, but I think X doesn't work because of the stupid graphics driver that won't work with anything past linux 3.4 or xserver 6.9 [17:40] why are you downgrading the kernel? [17:41] My ATI graphics card for my laptop works very poorly with the open source driver ( computer runs about 40 degrees hotter on open source driver ), but ATI doesn't support the card any more, so the last fglrx release that supports my card only runs on Linux 3.4 or less and xserver 6.9 or less. [17:41] linux doesn't have a built-in driver for your gpu? [17:41] oh [17:41] might want to use debian perhaps [17:41] i think they still use an old kernel [17:42] really? [17:42] I think i'll have a look [17:42] I don't want to leave Ubuntu, but I fear I have no choice. [17:42] I was a debian user before I switch to Ubuntu back in 2007. Gentoo before that. [17:42] kernel: Linux 3.2 [17:43] don't worry, most packages available for ubuntu are also available for debian in some form [17:44] yea, but I liked Ubuntu because I had, excluding desktop stuff, the same configuration as my servers [17:45] I ran a MySQL/PHP/apache2 on my laptop, I could develop on my laptop and know that the software would react identically to the servers. [17:45] *sigh* [17:45] hmm [17:45] no identical php/mysql versions for debian? [17:45] Probably, but more of a pain. [17:45] it's better to be on a working debian than an overheating ubuntu [17:45] not really, if you find a debian package you can just install it [17:46] hell mysql might not even care about the php version [17:46] Downloading debian now. [17:47] thanks Yoshi2889 [17:47] :) no problem [17:47] I have to go to confessional now. [17:47] actually [17:47] yea [17:47] maybe elementary OS is a better idea [17:47] I seriously considered switching to gentoo this morning.. [17:47] http://elementaryos.org/ [17:48] based on Ubuntu 12.04, ships with either kernel 3.4 or 3.2 (don't remember) [17:48] I like this, I searched 'Elementary OS Kernel', first page is a guy complaining his graphics card won't work on linux 3.5 and up [17:48] switch to gentoo then, but I predict you'll be back :) [17:49] lol [17:49] nah, I am not going back to Gentoo. I spent 6 months on Gentoo after I left Suse and before I went to Debian. It was a great learning experience, but everything was always broken. [17:49] I wish eOS shipped with some more modern backbone [17:49] I eventually moved from debian to Ubuntu because Ubuntu "just worked" [17:49] Kernel 3.10 is the first which supports my Wifi card [17:51] Or Sohuld I upgrade ubuntu right in the desktop enviroment? [17:52] from where to where again? [17:52] Yoshi2889: there are newer kernels and wifi drivers available for 12.04. You don't need to upgrade entire ubuntu. Look for backport-wireless or whatever it's called. [17:53] 12.04 to 14.04. I don't plan on doing it till trusty comes out. Do you think that they will fix it so i don't have to do nomedeset? [17:53] compat-wireless. [17:53] SwedeMike: Yeah I know, I updated my kernel in eOS before [17:54] SydneyJDykstra: I have no idea, possible. I do think you can upgrade 12.04 to 14.04 once it comes out [17:55] Yoshi2889: Oh,well. I guess we will find out when it comes out. nomedeset did work. Thanks. [17:56] I still hope more apps will implement touch-based scrolling [17:56] Especially browsers [18:00] Heya [18:00] I'm getting a black screen (with a cursor at the top left) after the boot splash logo with Ubuntu 14.04 on a retina Macbook Pro [18:01] If I set nomodeset on boot it doesn't even get to the splash logo - just a blank purple screen [18:01] Is there any way I can debug this? Kind of frustrating to not see any errors [18:01] !nomodeset | jrajav read the link [18:01] jrajav read the link: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [18:01] kwoot: what garphics card and driver? [18:02] Strange terminal screen in virt-manager session: http://imagebin.org/303210. Good luck with this one :-) [18:02] Beldar: I just said, I already tried that. [18:02] jrajav, Ah, sorry I missed that, have you checked the sum of the iso? [18:02] kwoot: lshw -C video [18:03] It's an installed system [18:03] I installed latest 13 just fine [18:03] And then did a dist upgrade to 14.04 [18:03] It ran fine for a few boot cycles and then started doing this after I changed some Xorg options [18:03] I managed to boot to text mode just now [18:04] Ugh. I do 'sudo service lightdm start' and all it gives me is 'start: Job failed to start' [18:04] Some descriptive errors once in a while would be great :| [18:04] guest says: GD 5446, Cirrus Logic. Host has nvidia card. [18:04] jrajav: cat /etc/x11/xorg.0.log [18:05] Yoshi2889: No such file [18:05] then where was it :| [18:05] hmm [18:05] jrajav, since you have done a X mod that seems to be part of the issue I would include details of that in your inquiry, not an area I can really help though. [18:06] Beldar: Yeah that's what I suspect of course but I need to know what the exact error was [18:06] jrajav: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log [18:06] Oh, I just found a misplaced quote. Let's see if that fixes it [18:06] sigh [18:06] It did :P [18:07] lol [18:07] Thanks a lot for your help guys [18:07] Yoshi2889: I'll remember that for the future [18:07] you fixed it yourself :P have fun [18:07] And I'll check it now to see if it was actually helpful [18:07] knowing X it's probably full of garbage [18:08] Oh, another question [18:08] When Trusty Tahr is released do I need to do anything? [18:08] Or will my beta release automatically roll up? [18:08] update [18:08] I guess so [18:08] dist upgrade or just update? [18:08] kwoot: any driver can be installed at 'additional drivers' section? [18:09] jrajav: I'd do both [18:09] QUESTION: So... was canonical bought by facebook? [18:09] QUESTION: Ubuntu Desktop Sound Themes have remained the same for quite some time, and despite the occassional plan dropped to have them replaced, they have stuck around. Are there any plans to do new desktop sounds? [18:09] wut, facebook bought canonical? [18:10] cough april 1 cough [18:10] lol [18:11] which chat room should I use to complain and vent about linux? [18:11] for the ubuntu+mac iso is it recommended to install on a drive with a mbr or guid table? [18:11] <°))))-< [18:11] !mac [18:11] For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages [18:11] shawnbon206, ^^^^^^^^^^^ [18:13] ive read all that before. [18:13] that Mactel Community Help Page is spare and outdated [18:13] exactly [18:14] (of course I should try to make it better instead of criticizing it) [18:15] I find this to be a generally good resource re: Macbook + Linux https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Macbook [18:15] i will just have to reverse engineer the installer i suppose [18:15] there's an article about trusty on retina here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/03/ubuntu-14-04-beta-released [18:15] maybe the final release will solve it? [18:18] I've had a pretty good time installing variously Arch, openSUSE, and Fedora on my MacBook retina (mid-2012) [18:18] does anyone know what the 1mb partition is for? from the guided partitioning [18:19] none of those have a Mac installer. I just boot from an ISO on a thumb drive and use rEFInd [18:19] fedora has a mac installer [18:19] ok. I didn't use it, iirc [18:20] anaconda installs faux hfs+ esp and mactel-boot by default [18:20] Fedora 20, astonishingly, worked the best out-of-the-box on the retina. Ubuntu 13.04 was a dud. I'll give 14.04 beta a shot. [18:21] lets not forget this is a support channel, not a chat [18:21] ubuntu when i installed it it automatically put a hybrid mbr partition on my gpt drive [18:21] i thought this was a "discussion" channel [18:21] there is a off topic channel #ubuntu-offtopic [18:21] instead of making a faux esp.. thats why i was confused [18:22] not really discussion is all, if related to a user need maybe. [18:22] and ubuntu related [18:22] theres no documentation which explains the assumptions the makers of the installer had [18:28] omg. before i installed i converted the drive into mbr and then ran the installer. to my surprise the installer converted it back to guid and then hybridized it [18:28] ???? [18:29] How id you "convert" it to mbr? [18:30] gparted> new partition table [18:30] msdos [18:30] ..save [18:30] thats not converting, thats just creating a new partition table :) [18:30] that means the same thing [18:32] It doesnt :) [18:32] youre thinking of converting without data loss [18:32] It doesnt affect the GPT partition table at all. [18:32] no, gpt is gone [18:32] you can prove this by opening gdisk afterwards [18:33] after then install gpt is present and mbr is hybrid. this is not desirable for a single boot machine [18:33] s/then/the [18:34] so gpt wasnt removed. As I said. [18:35] basically its a generic way that will "work" on all macs, so i understand why they did it. but it has risks which are unneccisary single boot systems [18:35] ?? [18:35] How are macs supported by oracle? [18:36] oracle? [18:36] Sorry, channel confusion :D [18:36] I had a similar discussion in another channel seconds ago :D [18:36] oh lol i was beginning to think you were just a troll [18:37] well i can just do manual partitioning and then hopefully the installer wont touch it [18:37] !uefi [18:37] UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [18:38] why are you showing me that [18:39] are you implying i dont know enough about that? i most certainly do know enough [18:39] i think its you which needs to brush up [18:39] s/which/who [18:40] Well. No one forces you to read. And no one forces me to help you any further. [18:41] i read everything there is to read and understood it thoroughly and i have done tons and tons of little experiments to prove those concepts to make sure i didnt misunderstand them [18:42] i am tired of people pasting radom links which have nothing to do with anything [18:43] * Beldar looks for his copy of the worlds smallest violin [18:43] Yay, Trillian runs in Wine. [18:43] :) Beldar [18:44] Bit slow but it runs [18:45] shawnbon206, You are not going to do very well here on any channel asking for help, by reading/projecting meaning to help. [18:49]