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| seb128 | good morning desktopers! | 08:03 |
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| hikiko | hi seb128 :) | 08:04 |
| Laney | greeeeeeeetings | 08:04 |
| seb128 | hey hikiko Laney | 08:04 |
| hikiko | and Laney :) | 08:05 |
| Laney | hey hey | 08:05 |
| Laney | how are you guys? | 08:05 |
| hikiko | how are uyou people? | 08:05 |
| Laney | ha | 08:05 |
| hikiko | haha | 08:05 |
| Laney | doing good, fun climbing session last night | 08:07 |
| seb128 | doing good, fun tennis session last night | 08:08 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 08:08 |
| hikiko | hahaha | 08:08 |
| Laney | (we can carry this on) | 08:09 |
| Laney | my elbow is recovering from its injury | 08:09 |
| seb128 | lucky you, my wrist is still hurting :/ | 08:10 |
| Laney | ah damn, thought we could have | 08:10 |
| Laney | you still played on it? | 08:10 |
| seb128 | well, my arm is better | 08:10 |
| seb128 | but I did some "didn't hold the racket strong enough" and slightly hurt my wrist a week ago | 08:11 |
| seb128 | tennis is not a sport to play if you don't like small injuries :p | 08:11 |
| Laney | heh | 08:12 |
| Laney | I have a tiny cut in my thumb that's right where I want to press it on the keyboard | 08:20 |
| tjaalton | seb128: you're not supposed to squeeze it too hard ;) | 08:22 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, haha | 08:23 |
| tjaalton | just lock your wrist, or you're in trouble | 08:23 |
| seb128 | right, well I've been sloppy/didn't lock it properly a few times :/ | 08:23 |
| seb128 | but I learnt from it :p | 08:23 |
| seb128 | (also hit the ball in front, when it's already over you "body-line" it's less fun for the arm/wrist to try to hit it back) | 08:24 |
| darkxst | hey seb128, Laney | 08:28 |
| seb128 | hey darkxst, how are you? | 08:29 |
| darkxst | seb128, good, finally have internet back! | 08:29 |
| seb128 | nice! what happened that you didn't have it anymore? | 08:29 |
| seb128 | I though you were travelling or on holidays or something | 08:29 |
| darkxst | seb128, ISP stuffed up, we are moving soon and booked that in, then they disconnected it immediately | 08:29 |
| seb128 | oh, I see | 08:30 |
| darkxst | holidays come soon ;), 10 days of climbing ! | 08:30 |
| Laney | I'LL BE THERE | 08:31 |
| darkxst | Laney, sure come! its a fair travel for you though! | 08:32 |
| Laney | sadly so | 08:32 |
| darkxst | anyway I looked at renamed gnome-desktop3.10 package, its a complete pain to do without compeltely forking the package and renaming things within the build system | 08:33 |
| darkxst | and it seems way to late to land this stuff now? so would it be possible to ship g-c-c 3.8 for 14.04 | 08:36 |
| darkxst | and then update renamed gnome-desktop and g-s-d/g-c-c for 14.04.1? | 08:37 |
| darkxst | i.e is it even possible to land backports in the LTS point releases? | 08:38 |
| Laney | Seems unlikely | 08:39 |
| Laney | but it might become more feasible to do it in a PPA then | 08:39 |
| seb128 | Laney, well, I guess they are going to want to build the LTS .1 with those packages, can a flavor build its LTS iso using ppa sources? | 08:51 |
| seb128 | how does that work for e.g security updates? | 08:51 |
| Laney | No I don't think you can do that :( | 08:51 |
| seb128 | right, what I though | 08:52 |
| darkxst | Laney, I menat not the PPA, but -backports? | 09:11 |
| attente | seb128: hey, i'm trying to get indicator-keyboard to use the logind dbus api, but don't really know how to get the permissions right for it | 09:57 |
| seb128 | attente, hey, how are you? in what tz are you now? ;-) | 09:57 |
| attente | seb128: still stuck in nz :) | 09:58 |
| seb128 | "stuck" ;-) | 09:58 |
| seb128 | attente, what do you want to use logind for/what's the permission issue? | 09:59 |
| attente | seb128: indicator keyboard needs to know when the user locks their screen | 09:59 |
| seb128 | why? | 09:59 |
| attente | because if an ibus IM is selected at the time of lock, we want to try to change to the user's next best keyboard layout | 10:00 |
| seb128 | hum, is that because ibus doesn't work on the lock screen? | 10:01 |
| seb128 | is that specific to the new unity lock? | 10:02 |
| attente | well, as much as how we had gnome-screensaver only cycling through keyboard layouts before | 10:02 |
| attente | we don't use ibus IMs in the greeter | 10:02 |
| attente | and we don't list any ibus IMs in the indicator menu (with the most recent change) | 10:03 |
| attente | so it's a bit weird to have an ibus IM selected when they're not available in the menu iteself | 10:04 |
| attente | sorry to spring it on you so close to release | 10:04 |
| seb128 | no worry | 10:04 |
| seb128 | I'm just trying to understand the situation ;-) | 10:04 |
| seb128 | ideally to me it looks like ibus should be usable on the lock screen (though I guess that might not make sense, since password are things you need to be able to input on a vt ideally) | 10:05 |
| seb128 | anyway, going back to logind | 10:05 |
| seb128 | what permission issue do you get? | 10:05 |
| seb128 | I'm also unsure it's the right interface to check if the screen is locked | 10:06 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, andyrock: ^ what would be the right way to check if screen is locked? | 10:06 |
| attente | seb128: not sure exactly, just that dbus rejects the send message to the system bus | 10:06 |
| attente | ** (indicator-keyboard-service:28554): CRITICAL **: file main.c: line 4268: unexpected error: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.420" (uid=1000 pid=28554 comm="lib/indicator-keyboard-service --force --use-gtk ") interface="org.freedesktop.login1.Manager" member="GetSessionByPid" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="org.freedesktop. | 10:07 |
| andyrock | seb128, using com.canonical.Unity.Session ? | 10:08 |
| andyrock | seb128, should work if you monitor the signals | 10:08 |
| seb128 | andyrock, see backlog, attente wants to modify indicator-keyboard's behaviour when the screen is locked | 10:08 |
| seb128 | attente, what do you use logind for? can't you just use ^ on the user session bus? | 10:09 |
| andyrock | seb128, you can use profiles for it no? | 10:09 |
| attente | andyrock: looks promising, i'll try it | 10:09 |
| attente | thanks! | 10:09 |
| seb128 | andyrock, yeah, as well | 10:09 |
| seb128 | well, I'm unsure about the profiles | 10:09 |
| seb128 | they are both exported | 10:09 |
| seb128 | you still need a signal telling you "locking happened, change things" | 10:10 |
| andyrock | there is a signal | 10:10 |
| seb128 | attente, I guess you are not going to join for the meeting later today? (middle of the night still for you right?) | 10:10 |
| andyrock | seb128, also do you know where gnome turn off the screen? | 10:10 |
| attente | guess not seb128 | 10:11 |
| seb128 | andyrock, btw, several users confirmed on that bug that the double lock issue isn't solve, I can reproduce if I do twice the guest-user->log back loop here | 10:11 |
| andyrock | yeah I'm working on it | 10:11 |
| andyrock | it does work here | 10:11 |
| seb128 | andyrock, gnome/unity-settings-daemon power plugin (which uses the gnome-screensaver interface for idle) | 10:11 |
| seb128 | attente, ok ... can you update me on what issues you are working on then? ;-) | 10:12 |
| andyrock | ah ok thanks! | 10:12 |
| attente | seb128: sure | 10:12 |
| attente | seb128: mainly (trying) getting the accelerators to work in the inkscape/emacs/eclipse menus | 10:13 |
| attente | seb128: i had to patch gtk for it to work though... | 10:14 |
| attente | seb128: and it doesn't really work for upstream eclipse, just ours | 10:14 |
| attente | (getting accelerators to be visible i mean) | 10:15 |
| seb128 | k | 10:16 |
| seb128 | I noticed those were not listed for chromium either | 10:16 |
| seb128 | I guess it's the same issue? | 10:16 |
| attente | i didn't realize it was a chromium problem | 10:17 |
| * attente checks | 10:17 | |
| attente | i see accelerators in the menus there... | 10:18 |
| seb128 | hum, are those the "Ctrl+Q" next to quit for example? (just to make sure we are speaking about the same thing) | 10:19 |
| seb128 | well, maybe that's not a new issue | 10:19 |
| attente | seb128: oh. seems to fix it too | 10:20 |
| seb128 | great | 10:21 |
| seb128 | is the gtk patch up for review somewhere? | 10:21 |
| attente | https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/gtk/x-canonical-accel | 10:21 |
| seb128 | I can try to get larsu to have a look if he surfaces back (he's at the fdo summit with desrt, not sure what happened to them though, they didn't show up at all since yesterday) | 10:21 |
| seb128 | thanks | 10:22 |
| attente | ok | 10:22 |
| seb128 | I see you pushed a few good branches/fixes, I'm going to try to get them through review/landing in the next days | 10:22 |
| attente | seb128: thanks! | 10:23 |
| seb128 | how do you refresh the keyboard icons btw? I'm unsure if we have that documented somewhere but it looks like we should | 10:23 |
| seb128 | yw! | 10:23 |
| attente | seb128: yeah.. i guess i didn't :x | 10:24 |
| attente | seb128: i'll add a small readme to i-k | 10:24 |
| seb128 | thanks | 10:24 |
| seb128 | looking to your assigned bugs I think you have the one I had flagged as "we should fix that for trusty" under control | 10:25 |
| seb128 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-keyboard/+bug/1293548 was the other one on my list | 10:25 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1293548 in indicator-keyboard (Ubuntu) "Indicator disappears when switching to non default layout" [High,Confirmed] | 10:25 |
| seb128 | I see you have a libindicator mp up for it | 10:25 |
| seb128 | attente, thanks for the status update ;-) | 10:25 |
| attente | seb128: np! for that one, i couldn't tell if it was a gtk bug or a libindicator bug | 10:26 |
| seb128 | there is something weird happening to the indicator sometimes though | 10:27 |
| Trevinho | attente: can't you just check the indicator profile? Indicators are loaded with desktop-lockscreen profile when in lock mode | 10:27 |
| Trevinho | That's also how we customize indicator session | 10:27 |
| seb128 | attente, "Pinying" is usually a blue glyph icon, but sometime it ends up being a grey rectangle with letters (similar to "classic" layouts, but with a different bg color) | 10:28 |
| attente | Trevinho: to quote seb128 "you still need a signal telling you "locking happened, change things"" | 10:28 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, the issue is to change the active layout/input method, not only the indicator visual | 10:28 |
| attente | seb128: i know that issue, seems to happen randomly at startup | 10:28 |
| attente | seb128: what's the other "we should fix that for trusty" bug? | 10:29 |
| seb128 | attente, the keybindings not listed in menus issue you are working on | 10:29 |
| Trevinho | seb128: ok, but still we need to remove to menu item to open the keyboard settings | 10:29 |
| seb128 | e.g inkscape lost those | 10:29 |
| attente | oh ok | 10:29 |
| attente | inkscape will have them back with those two branches | 10:30 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/indicator-keyboard/1291962-2/+merge/213346 if you fancy doing the review ;-) | 10:30 |
| Trevinho | :) | 10:30 |
| seb128 | attente, right, things are looking good for release, thanks! (also keep in mind that we are going to switch LTS updates for 12.04 users only a .1, so we still have some time for SRUs/polish after the release) | 10:31 |
| seb128 | attente, said differently, don't loose sleep over lack of polish/small bugs for release | 10:31 |
| Laney | looks like he's losing sleep currently :P | 10:32 |
| attente | Laney: it's not even my bedtime yet :P | 10:32 |
| Trevinho | seb128: when is the. 1 planned? | 10:33 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule | 10:33 |
| seb128 | oh, that doesn't have it | 10:33 |
| seb128 | unsure but likely mid-summer | 10:33 |
| Laney | attente: man, I'm so old | 10:33 |
| Trevinho | Eh no ;) | 10:33 |
| Laney | when are you back in .ca? | 10:33 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule for comparaison | 10:34 |
| Laney | what does "Missing callback called fullpath" from gio mean? | 10:36 |
| Trevinho | seb128: ah btw I've finally fixed that text rendering issue for Radiance... You should eventually get slick fonts. It wasn't usable for me before, but never realized why. | 10:37 |
| Laney | happyaron: ubuntukylin-default-settings needs updating for ibus-db-pinyin-android (typed that from memory so maybe wrong) removal | 10:52 |
| happyaron | Laney: already in my list | 10:53 |
| Laney | ok | 10:53 |
| Laney | getting image build failures about it :) | 10:53 |
| happyaron | :) | 10:53 |
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| seb128 | Trevinho, nice | 11:04 |
| dobey | how can i nuke the hud from orbit so that pressing alt won't open it ever in the future? | 11:13 |
| dobey | i disable the keybinding, but it keeps returning :( | 11:14 |
| seb128 | dobey, settings -> keyboard -> change the keybinding? | 11:15 |
| seb128 | that's weird | 11:15 |
| seb128 | well, changing work fine here | 11:15 |
| dobey | yeah it works fine for a while, but it keeps getting reset | 11:18 |
| dobey | on my laptop | 11:18 |
| seb128 | k, never saw that | 11:18 |
| seb128 | but I don't unset it, I set it to a less-likely-to-hit key | 11:19 |
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| hikiko | hello | 13:22 |
| hikiko | wrong win :) | 13:23 |
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| Laney | I just found out that you can set a UTC GCal event to Reykjavik and it'll track timezone changes properly ;-) | 13:49 |
| * Laney now knows when the desktop team meeting is | 13:49 | |
| seb128 | Laney, lol | 13:50 |
| seb128 | the meeting is in 1h40 | 13:50 |
| Laney | yep! | 13:50 |
| Laney | it works because Iceland is GMT without any DST | 13:51 |
| seb128 | utc is easy, no need of Reykjavik | 13:51 |
| * ogra_ thinks thats a secret hint that Laney wants a sprint there | 13:51 | |
| Laney | hot springs... | 13:51 |
| * seb128 doesn't understand what laney is speaking about | 13:51 | |
| seb128 | you can add utc tz in your indicator | 13:52 |
| ogra_ | seb128, but not to gcal ... at google | 13:52 |
| Laney | you say what timezone the event is in | 13:52 |
| Laney | and gcal converts it to your home timezone | 13:52 |
| seb128 | oh, I see what you mean now | 13:52 |
| seb128 | there is no way to set to "utc"? | 13:52 |
| Laney | but they don't have an actual UTC option | 13:52 |
| seb128 | shrug | 13:53 |
| seb128 | stupid google :p | 13:53 |
| Laney | so you set it to iceland which turns out to be the same | 13:53 |
| qengho | Android doesn't have a UTC clock option either. First, pick continent, then city. But, UTC is not a place. | 14:22 |
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| kenvandine | larsu, hey, i have a gsettings-qt question | 15:11 |
| kenvandine | i have a click hook that runs, which uses gsettings-qt | 15:12 |
| kenvandine | but sometimes it fails to commit | 15:12 |
| kenvandine | i'm thinking maybe the hook is exiting before finishing with gsettings-qt | 15:12 |
| kenvandine | larsu, or maybe it's worse than that... sometimes i see connection refused warnings for dconf | 15:13 |
| kenvandine | (process:1962): dconf-WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf: Could not connect: Connection refused | 15:14 |
| larsu | kenvandine: desrt says your dbus is gone | 15:23 |
| larsu | is gdbus (the command line tool) working? | 15:23 |
| kenvandine | i can only reproduce this when the click hook is run with pkcon | 15:23 |
| kenvandine | if i run the hook myself it works fine | 15:23 |
| larsu | hm, no idea sorry | 15:23 |
| kenvandine | and i don't think it always fails from pkcon | 15:24 |
| larsu | and we're being kicked out of the venue right now. bbl | 15:24 |
| kenvandine | larsu, thx | 15:24 |
| kenvandine | tedg, do you have any ideas ^^ | 15:25 |
| kenvandine | i think it only happens when the click hook runs from pkcon | 15:25 |
| seb128 | larsu, I don't like your venue :p | 15:25 |
| tedg | Sorry, confused | 15:25 |
| seb128 | larsu, first no internet, then they kick you out | 15:25 |
| tedg | I don't think I have enough backlog | 15:25 |
| kenvandine | ah | 15:26 |
| kenvandine | (process:1962): dconf-WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf: Could not connect: Connection refused | 15:26 |
| kenvandine | tedg, i see that in click-user-hooks.log | 15:26 |
| kenvandine | so the content-hub hook fails to save the setting sometimes | 15:26 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Hmm, nothing off hand, but I'd guess that it doesn't have the right dbus session address? | 15:27 |
| kenvandine | tedg, of course that log file is pretty limited in info... no way to know for sure that warning is from my hook :) | 15:27 |
| kenvandine | but i know sometimes it doesn't change when run on package update | 15:28 |
| tedg | kenvandine, It's probably wheter it's run by the click-user-hooks upstart job or by the core update. | 15:28 |
| kenvandine | running the hook myself works everytime | 15:28 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Guessing that the upstart job works, and manually does not. | 15:28 |
| tedg | But that'd probably be best discussed with cjwatson. | 15:29 |
| kenvandine | wait... you mean the other way around? | 15:29 |
| tedg | Guessing that it doesn't pull over the environment to the root part of it, and when flipping back doesn't get the session bus. | 15:29 |
| kenvandine | it wouldn't be in this log if it wasn't run with click-user-hooks | 15:29 |
| tedg | Oh, this is the upstart log? | 15:29 |
| kenvandine | are there any other hooks that access dbus or gsettings? | 15:29 |
| kenvandine | yes | 15:29 |
| kenvandine | that is from click-user-hooks.log | 15:30 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Ah, so it's needs to dep on dbus. | 15:30 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Which it doesn't now. | 15:30 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, tedg: sorry, i'm going to ask you to move channel, we are about to start our weekly meeting | 15:30 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Right now click-user-hooks can run before dbus | 15:30 |
| kenvandine | oh... i see! | 15:30 |
| * tedg gets kicked out like a larsu | 15:30 | |
| seb128 | qengho, Sweetsha1k, mlankhorst, Laney, tkamppeter__, desrt(?), larsu(?), kenvandine: hey, it's meeting time | 15:31 |
| qengho | yo. | 15:31 |
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| kenvandine | oy | 15:31 |
| Sweetsha1k | o/ | 15:31 |
| tkamppeter | hi | 15:31 |
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| seb128 | I hope everyone was happy about state of things in trusty beta, it's looking great ;-) | 15:31 |
| seb128 | let's get started | 15:31 |
| seb128 | qengho, hey | 15:31 |
| qengho | Done: beta Chromium in PPA looks pretty good. | 15:32 |
| qengho | Done: abandoned mental anguish about unavailable Flash plugins after I discovered a downloader package already in mulltiverse. | 15:32 |
| qengho | In-progress: fixing minor bugs that come with the new internal toolkit. | 15:32 |
| qengho | EOF | 15:32 |
| seb128 | qengho, thanks | 15:33 |
| qengho | That upstream Beta should be made Stable in the next week or so. Then, the PPA contents go into distro. | 15:33 |
| seb128 | well, that's getting close from release | 15:34 |
| seb128 | but I guess if it's not in release it can be SRUed? | 15:34 |
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| qengho | seb128: Yes. Not SRU exactly, but via security updates, yes. | 15:34 |
| seb128 | ok, makes sense | 15:35 |
| seb128 | qengho, thanks | 15:35 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, hey | 15:35 |
| Sweetshark | - 4.2.3~rc2 to trusty finished | 15:35 |
| Sweetshark | - autopkgtests run on jenkins, unfortunately marked as a fail for a spurious stderr output https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Trusty/view/AutoPkgTest/job/trusty-adt-libreoffice/307/ | 15:35 |
| Sweetshark | - 3.5.7/precise update pending feedback of the security guys, but ready to go | 15:35 |
| Sweetshark | - some more bug triage | 15:35 |
| Sweetshark | - updating backups | 15:35 |
| Sweetshark | - some more work on the great ./debian/rules cleanup in LibreOffice | 15:35 |
| Sweetshark | EOF | 15:35 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, thanks | 15:37 |
| seb128 | I need to ping the security team | 15:37 |
| Sweetshark | 4.2.4 is scheduled for ~May, 6, we should SRU that quickly for the LTS. Im hoping to also do an update for bug 1008277 (which is trivial, but related to unity and was recently fixed upstream( | 15:38 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1008277 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[upstream] Recent menu botches file names" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1008277 | 15:38 |
| seb128 | ok | 15:38 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, thanks | 15:38 |
| seb128 | mlankhorst, hey | 15:39 |
| seb128 | no mlankhorst? | 15:41 |
| seb128 | Laney, your turn then! | 15:41 |
| * Laney ponders staying silent for trolling purposes | 15:41 | |
| Laney | • Investigated and fixed QML Date.timeZoneUpdated() bug, in distro now (after much time running AP tests) | 15:41 |
| Laney | • Investigated and fixed glib test failures which came from a Debian patch - new version pushed upstream | 15:41 |
| Laney | • FTBFS fixes vips gtkpod, sent upstream | 15:41 |
| Laney | • Investigate (with in_finity) a pkgbinarymangler bug where it created broken symlinks | 15:41 |
| Laney | • Many many FFe and queue reviews and other release-y exception-y discussions | 15:42 |
| Laney | • Poke at the tz selector in u-s-s to try and make it faster (not easy to move it to another thread, so trying some other optimisations) | 15:42 |
| Laney | • Hopeful ubuntuone-credentials x-building fix to keep u-s-s cross buildable (built, need to test) | 15:42 |
| Laney | • Fix whoopsie-preferences crashing when turning automatic crash reporting on, as we do on the phone (approved, need to upload) | 15:42 |
| Laney | ❂ | 15:42 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks! | 15:42 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, hey | 15:42 |
| tkamppeter | - Google Summer of Code 2014: Some organizational work so that all worthwile applications for the Linux Foundation have a mentor and are accepted. | 15:43 |
| tkamppeter | - CUPS: Coordination of getting Upstart support including socket activation fully integrated in the Debian package of CUPS, so that we can sync with Debian again after the release of Trusty. | 15:43 |
| tkamppeter | - cups-filters: Released 1.0.50 working around PostScript interpreter bugs in printers from Toshiba and in old HP LaserJet printers and to let cups-browsed cope with colons in print server host names and IPs (IPv6). | 15:43 |
| tkamppeter | - ghostscript: Fix bug of PCL-XL driver producing huge files from some input PDF files. | 15:43 |
| tkamppeter | - Bugs. | 15:43 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, thanks | 15:44 |
| kenvandine | seb128, my turn? | 15:46 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, yes, sorry, 5 discussions in // here | 15:47 |
| Laney | he's too busy trying to find a samba maintainer | 15:47 |
| seb128 | lol | 15:47 |
| kenvandine | hahaha | 15:47 |
| kenvandine | * Assorted content-hub bug fixes since last weeks landing, being tested in silo 11 now | 15:47 |
| kenvandine | * landed fixes to the share component in ubuntu-ui-extras, hopefully we'll be seeing more share handlers soon | 15:47 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, the security team says it's fine to upload the SRU for precise | 15:47 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: k | 15:48 |
| kenvandine | also, we've gotten downloads working from the browser using the download manager and content-hub | 15:48 |
| kenvandine | not ready to land yet, but end to end works... | 15:48 |
| kenvandine | need to get the transfer indicator in the middle there to finish it | 15:48 |
| kenvandine | /EOF | 15:49 |
| bregma | seb128, is there someone who can help andyrock out with the gnome-screensaver/lock/power issues? Especially someone who can reproduce them? | 15:50 |
| seb128 | bregma, sorry, in a meeting, coming back to you in a few minutes (we are almost done) | 15:50 |
| andyrock | I can reproduce the power issue | 15:50 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, thanks ;-) (sorry I didn't have much slots to play with the new content-hub yet, I still want to look at it for ringtones) | 15:51 |
| andyrock | but I can't fix it. Spent one week on g-s code trying to understand something | 15:51 |
| kenvandine | seb128, no worries, i've just been focusing on bugs and polish | 15:52 |
| seb128 | ok, my turn | 15:52 |
| seb128 | * trusty beta testing | 15:52 |
| seb128 | * looked at some translation issues | 15:52 |
| seb128 | * patch pilot day (queue 60 -> 30) | 15:52 |
| seb128 | * desktop updates (totem-pl-parser, gdk-pixbuf, shotwell) | 15:52 |
| seb128 | * debugged/fixed sessioninstaller not working with current gstreamer | 15:52 |
| seb128 | * wrote a testcase for an uss reported issue which turned out to be a toolkit one | 15:52 |
| seb128 | * looked at samba sharing not working, uploaded a fix (ubuntu delta dropped in merge) | 15:52 |
| seb128 | * quite some bugs triage and debugging/forwarding of issues | 15:52 |
| seb128 | * CI train landing (mostly indicators) | 15:52 |
| seb128 | </week> | 15:53 |
| seb128 | I'm currently reviewing some of u-s-s stacked branches, QA pinged about the autopilot ones that are stalled here | 15:53 |
| seb128 | . | 15:53 |
| Laney | I got confused about the state of those, there seems to be a few in play | 15:54 |
| seb128 | ok, did I forget anyone? ;-) any question/other topic? | 15:54 |
| Laney | thanks for looking | 15:54 |
| seb128 | yw! | 15:54 |
| seb128 | ok, no other topic | 15:55 |
| seb128 | </end of meeting> | 15:55 |
| seb128 | thanks everyone | 15:55 |
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| Laney | merci! | 15:55 |
| seb128 | bregma, andyrock: so, to help ... I need to check tonight with robert_ancell if he has free slots for that | 15:57 |
| seb128 | andyrock, being stucked for a week is not good, next time please ask on the channel or send emails | 15:57 |
| seb128 | either pick some people, or use the desktop list | 15:57 |
| Laney | We have final freeze next week | 15:58 |
| seb128 | andyrock, you can't reproduce the double locking if you do "log in, use the indicator to start guest, close guest, log back from unity-greeter to your session, use the indicator to start guest, close guest, log back from unity-greeter to your session" ? | 15:58 |
| Laney | I think we should take a decision on the lockscreen this week looking at progress on fixing the issues | 15:59 |
| seb128 | right | 15:59 |
| seb128 | that's basically what the discussion comes from, I pinged bregma telling him that it's about time we rollback if we decide the issues can't be fixed for release | 16:00 |
| Laney | there's time for some work between .0 and .1 but the feature should be basically solid for release | 16:01 |
| seb128 | right, like the double lock and screen-never-turn-off need to be fixed for release | 16:02 |
| Laney | nod | 16:02 |
| Trevinho | larsu: I've been pinged by a guy who wants to port Ambiance to Gshell, but... He told me that using it there the headerbar decorated windows are non-resizable... Just as it happens in unity. Might that be something theme-related? | 16:17 |
| andyrock | seb128, nope | 16:18 |
| andyrock | I can't reproduce it | 16:18 |
| Trevinho | Laney: that seems related to an older bug than our new decorations https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-themes/+bug/1263317 | 16:18 |
| andyrock | bschaefer can't reproduce it too | 16:18 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1263317 in Ubuntu theme "Not working on GTK 3 windows" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:18 |
| seb128 | andyrock, shrug | 16:18 |
| seb128 | andyrock, did you try a fresh trusty install in a vm or something? | 16:18 |
| seb128 | you guys have locally hacked version? | 16:19 |
| Laney | Trevinho: 'that'? | 16:20 |
| andyrock | seb128, nope all archive | 16:26 |
| seb128 | andyrock, I wonder what's the difference between our systems :/ | 16:30 |
| mlankhorst | seb128: sorry! was testing ubuntu on qxl. :P | 16:30 |
| Laney | dobey: dirspec says it implements the xdg user dir spec, but I can't find it | 16:32 |
| Laney | does it actually? | 16:32 |
| Laney | (if so, what's the api?) | 16:32 |
| dobey | Laney: it only immplements basedir at the moment. plan was to immplement user dirs too, but never got around to it | 16:35 |
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| Laney | nod | 16:35 |
| Laney | the description says it does :) | 16:35 |
| Laney | I can't actually find a python library which implements user dir, which is sad | 16:35 |
| dobey | doesn't python-xdg? | 16:36 |
| Laney | doesn't look like it | 16:36 |
| dobey | or you can use GLib from gi | 16:36 |
| Laney | ya | 16:37 |
| seb128 | Laney, what are you working on? (checking if that's in context of https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/ubuntu-system-settings/fix_tests/+merge/210102) | 16:38 |
| Laney | it is | 16:38 |
| Laney | I'm not working on it, just saw the email | 16:39 |
| seb128 | ok, so I should hold on approving it? ;-) | 16:39 |
| Laney | I'm going to comment saying they could use a library to get the names | 16:39 |
| Laney | bit of a nitpick | 16:39 |
| seb128 | ok | 16:39 |
| * om26er waves | 16:39 | |
| seb128 | seems like an improvement fine for another round | 16:39 |
| Laney | the surprise is all spoiled! | 16:39 |
| Laney | I often feel like 'another round' means never | 16:40 |
| Laney | but yes | 16:40 |
| seb128 | om26er, https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/ubuntu-system-settings/fix_tests/+merge/210102 and https://code.launchpad.net/~vrruiz/ubuntu-system-settings/helper-launch-system-settings/+merge/213450 conflict, could one of you or Victor rebase on the other one? | 16:40 |
| om26er | seb128, ok, I pinged Victor on that ;) | 16:42 |
| andyrock | seb128, maybe it's just a race | 16:43 |
| seb128 | andyrock, it's 100% reliable here though, works on first user switch, then bug, only with guest session so far | 16:45 |
| seb128 | like if I go to greeter and back it's fine | 16:45 |
| rvr | om26er: I'm here :) | 16:47 |
| rvr | seb128: Does it conflict? | 16:48 |
| om26er | rvr, i didn't know that was your nick :) | 16:48 |
| rvr | om26er: :)) | 16:48 |
| rvr | om26er: What's your branch? | 16:49 |
| om26er | rvr, https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/ubuntu-system-settings/fix_tests/+merge/210102 | 16:49 |
| seb128 | rvr, om26er: right | 16:50 |
| seb128 | Text conflict in tests/autopilot/ubuntu_system_settings/tests/__init__.py | 16:50 |
| seb128 | 1 conflicts encountered. | 16:50 |
| seb128 | when trying to merge both | 16:50 |
| rvr | om26er: My merge proposal is more simple (simplier?), what do you think? | 16:51 |
| seb128 | rvr, om26er: basically it would be nice if one of you rebase on the other one, I've no strong feeling each way | 16:51 |
| rvr | seb128: Neither I do | 16:51 |
| rvr | seb128: I have to go now, so either mine lands first or I will rebase mine later or tomorrow morning | 16:52 |
| rvr | om26er: ^^ | 16:52 |
| om26er | rvr, i am working on it now then | 16:52 |
| seb128 | rvr, om26er: thanks | 16:52 |
| rvr | Great | 16:52 |
| rvr | om26er: Write me if you need help from me, please | 16:53 |
| om26er | seb128, rebased on victor's branch, added that as prerequisite now | 16:57 |
| seb128 | om26er, thanks | 16:57 |
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| ChrisTownsend | seb128: Do you happen to know garnacho's timezone? | 17:38 |
| ChrisTownsend | seb128: Nevermind | 17:38 |
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| seb128 | ChrisTownsend, hey, read the #gtk+ backlog, thanks for looking at that | 18:57 |
| ChrisTownsend | seb128: Yeah. I'm working on a solution, but it's tricky. | 18:58 |
| ChrisTownsend | seb128: I now have unfocused Gtk windows scrolling. | 18:58 |
| seb128 | ChrisTownsend, changing the grabbing that you discussed with garnacho? | 18:59 |
| ChrisTownsend | seb128: Yep | 18:59 |
| seb128 | ChrisTownsend, he said he had planned gtk changes that would fix it for those usecase (but at the cost of extra callbacks) | 18:59 |
| ChrisTownsend | seb128: Trying to find a solution to make the wheel mouse VP switchers happy:) | 18:59 |
| seb128 | k | 18:59 |
| seb128 | of course compiz is made of plugins so you don't know if you need the grabbing or not I guess? | 19:00 |
| seb128 | I wish we had forked compiz and merged the plugins to have less complexity, but it's a bit late for that | 19:00 |
| ChrisTownsend | seb128: Yeah, it's kind of tricky. The button grab gets added to a list, but the list seems global to all windows. I'm seeing if there is a way to figure out "who" wants the particular grab. | 19:01 |
| seb128 | k | 19:03 |
| seb128 | you can try asking garnacho if he still plans the GTK change, that would be an acceptable solution | 19:03 |
| seb128 | earlier today I was wondering if we should revert the GTK commit | 19:03 |
| seb128 | but before that we had weird/buggy behaviour as well, like refocussing a window could lead to have it scrolling without any action | 19:04 |
| seb128 | which is also quite buggy, and making less obvious what is happening | 19:04 |
| ChrisTownsend | seb128: Yeah. Well, he's right, Compiz is wayyyy too aggressive on it's passive grabs. I'll see what I can do over the next couple of days. | 19:04 |
| seb128 | ChrisTownsend, thanks | 19:11 |
| tjaalton | huh, now I got it again.. kbd layout is us while the indicator claims it's fi | 20:04 |
| tjaalton | don't even have us there | 20:05 |
| robert_ancell | andyrock, still online? I'm going to have a look at 1292041 and see if can find anything there to fix | 20:09 |
| ochosi | robert_ancell: thanks again for that hint with the sigterm-signal for the gtk-greeter, seems like that really fixed the issue! | 20:10 |
| robert_ancell | ochosi, awesome! | 20:10 |
| ochosi | robert_ancell: and thanks for assigning that weird "my login greeter window is too small" bug to gtk-greeter, i've really never seen that oddity before :> | 20:11 |
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| robert_ancell | mterry, it's probably not too late just to fix u-g to own com.canonical.UnityGreeter... (re https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/indicator-sound/grab-greeter-name/+merge/213716) | 20:58 |
| mterry | robert_ancell, you think? | 20:58 |
| mterry | I can do that | 20:58 |
| mterry | Cleaner for sure | 20:58 |
| robert_ancell | it's just a g_bus_own_name right? | 20:58 |
| mterry | robert_ancell, yeah | 20:58 |
| robert_ancell | I can do the release if you do the branch | 20:58 |
| mterry | robert_ancell, k, let me futz | 20:58 |
| robert_ancell | I'd be more worried about bugs in the indicators doing it the other way | 20:58 |
| mterry | robert_ancell, I thought we actually owned this name already this cycle | 20:59 |
| robert_ancell | yeah, I thought we'd ended up doing that too | 20:59 |
| robert_ancell | we own com.canonical.Unity now | 20:59 |
| robert_ancell | for the shutdown dialogs | 20:59 |
| om26er | Laney, hey still there ? | 20:59 |
| robert_ancell | mterry, ah, that helped me with my problem. I notice we also own the screensaver name. But I've been seeing a race there where sometimes the screensaver does start | 21:00 |
| mterry | robert_ancell, try https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity-greeter/own-name/+merge/213720 | 21:06 |
| mterry | works for me | 21:06 |
| robert_ancell | mterry, testing here | 21:08 |
| robert_ancell | mterry, should greeter-list be updated? | 21:09 |
| mterry | robert_ancell, I don't think it needs to be? It just registers an object on the bus, under whatever names the executable claims | 21:10 |
| robert_ancell | ok | 21:11 |
| bregma | robert_ancell, I imagine andyrock isn't up right now but he'd appreciate anything you can do to fix that | 21:29 |
| bregma | andyrock, robert_ancell is ready for you to pick his brain | 21:33 |
| robert_ancell | mterry, released in 14.04.7 | 21:34 |
| robert_ancell | bregma, ta | 21:35 |
| mterry | robert_ancell, awesome, thanks | 21:35 |
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| === Pici` is now known as Pici | ||
| darkxst | bug 1301045 | 22:32 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1301045 in gnome-bluetooth (Ubuntu) "gnome-bluetooth pulls in unity-control-center on Ubuntu GNOME packageset installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1301045 | 22:32 |
| JamesJRH | Hello, which package has support for Epson WF-2520 scanners? | 23:08 |
| sarnold | JamesJRH: "sane" is the usual scanner package.. | 23:09 |
| JamesJRH | Can I use an Epson WF-2520 printer/scanner with just Free software drivers? | 23:09 |
| JamesJRH | Yes, but is it sane-backends or what? | 23:09 |
| JamesJRH | Or libsane-extras? | 23:10 |
| JamesJRH | https://launchpad.net/sane-backends ← How do I see what backends this package has? | 23:12 |
| sarnold | JamesJRH: looks like sane's epson2 driver supports scanners based on 'features' rather than vresion numbers: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/sane-backends/master/view/head:/backend/epson2.h | 23:20 |
| JamesJRH | http://sane-project.org/lists/sane-backends-external.html#S-EPKOWA ← What about this? | 23:21 |
| JamesJRH | Which package does that equate to? | 23:21 |
| JamesJRH | Status is ‘Complete’, so that's good. | 23:21 |
| sarnold | JamesJRH: ah, some more details here on external backends: http://sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html | 23:24 |
| JamesJRH | Yeah, that's how I got to the page I linked above. | 23:26 |
| JamesJRH | Stable and development don't have it, only external. Not sure what that means entirely. | 23:27 |
| JamesJRH | I also don't understand why a supported devices list has entries with unsupported status. | 23:29 |
| JamesJRH | “They also contain the reason why these backends are not yet included.” ← I don't see any reasons. | 23:30 |
| JamesJRH | There's comments, but the other lists have them too. | 23:31 |
| JamesJRH | Hmm, there's also sane-backends-extras. | 23:39 |
| JamesJRH | Aah! This PPA might have what I'm looking for!: https://launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/+archive/sane-backends | 23:45 |
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