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bashrcmorning08:04
diploMorning all08:15
dwatkinshey folks08:16
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Batman Day! :-D08:32
nigelbJamesTait: Nanananananananananananananananananananananananananana.....08:33
JamesTaitnigelb, Batmaaaaaaaaaaaan!08:34
nigelb:D08:34
popeyHappy mailman day.08:40
JamesTaitpopey, Batman delivers your mail?08:42
jussidammit, I want that also!08:44
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:46
bashrcmailman day?08:51
nigelbMailman day indeed.08:51
* nigelb sees at least 4 different emails from mailman.08:51
bashrchttp://www.list.org/08:51
BigRedSI'm trying to build deb packages of snort; when I do ./configure; make  it succeeds (exits 0) but debuild errors out saying "cc1: all warnings being treated as errors" amongst its output09:50
BigRedSPresumably one way to fix this is to turn off that warnings-are-errors, but I can't see where this is set and why debuild does it, anyone know how to do that? Or what I should be looking for09:51
BigRedSdoes debuild set its own CFLAGS to override whatever the configure script does?09:52
MartijnVdSit's -Werror09:52
BigRedSyeah, that's the sort of thing I've been trying to grep for09:53
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davmor2Morning all10:14
bashrcmorning10:15
BigRedSAh! Apparently dpkg-buildflags is my culprit!10:34
Hornethttps://uk.celebrity.yahoo.com/news/benedict-cumberbatch-star-sherlock-game-thrones-crossover-090449821.html10:57
BigRedSI'm sure you're not supposed to do that past midday11:09
DJonesbigcalm: davmor2 Are your peugot's petrol or diesel, if they're diesel, have you had any issues with the clutch on them, doing a bit research, I've been told that the clutch can be a bit weak because of a dual mass flywheel11:16
davmor2DJones: Diesel and my clutch is fine11:16
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)11:17
bigcalmDJones: diesel and no problem with the clutch11:17
DJonesTa, I'm getting a bit concerned about the potential cost of replacement if it fails, being told it'll cost around £100011:17
DJonesBut seems to be similar on most diesels now11:18
davmor2DJones: mine iirc is knocking on 1200,000-ish the only issues I had were the rear wiper and the Joint on the drivers side I think they call it a frapp joint iirc but it is their idea of the ball joint effectively11:19
davmor2Those were particularly cheap but at the same time weren't that expensive either11:20
bigcalmThat's reminded me to get a new rear wiper blade, ta11:21
DJonesCheers, I think its just a case of pick car and go for it11:21
jussiDJones: just do yourself a favour and buy a volvo11:27
Laneybah11:28
LaneyI've started getting PPI scam phone calls loads in the last few days11:28
* Laney finds a blacklist11:29
DJonesjussi: I considered them, but they're a fair bit more expensive to buy & not as many around11:30
jussiDJones: yeah, true, but they will go for 3x as long...11:31
jussiand I've said it like a million times... "The devil lives in France - and he makes cars!"11:32
foobarryLaney: an android blacklist?11:32
Laneyfoobarry: ya11:32
Laneyluckily they don't call from a withheld number11:32
MartijnVdSthe Cantina on Mos Eisley didn't allow droids either11:33
jussiDJones: are you looking for something for the family? or?11:33
DJonesjussi: Volvo's have the same clutch replacement pricing issue11:34
DJonesYes, family estate, dog in the back, caravan on the back etc, probably Peugeot 407/Mondeo/Insignia estate11:34
foobarryLaney: was unaware of blacklists for adnroid, please let us know what you find11:35
Laneyfoobarry: I went to the call log, clicked on the number, pressed the menu button and there was "Add to blacklist" in there11:35
Laneyrunning cyanogen though11:35
jussiDJones: as much as I generally hate ford, the mondeo is an excellent car for that kind of thing. I have several friends who are very happy with them11:36
foobarryi have my own blacklist, but wondered if some nice people ditribute one11:37
jussiDJones: on the other side of things, have you considered a Skoda?11:37
foobarrythat i can use on the android11:37
xplora1aput you phone number on the Direct Marketing Association do not call list http://www.dmaconsumers.org/cgi/offtelephonedave/11:37
foobarrygood luck11:37
DJonesjussi: The Mondeo was my first choice originally, then various people said not to get one, but I'm looking more at them now that every car seems to have the same issue11:37
foobarryi get spammed my ppl all day long, with no regard for do not call list11:37
bashrcI have a special hate of telemarketers11:37
bashrcdo not call can sometimes be effective, but given the global nature of spam not always11:38
DJonesjussi: I looked at the skoda octavia, but a bit light for what I may want to tow in future so had to forget that11:38
jussiDJones: really? that would suprise me....11:39
xplora1aoops this is the right link for the tps http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/tps/index.html11:39
MartijnVdShttp://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-2522289111:40
DJonesjussi: Yeah, surprised me as well, they're a bit limited even though they win tow car of the year awards from most places11:40
jussiDJones: the 2.0TDI is a very good motor, Im a bit suprised tbh11:40
jussiDJones: you should just import a V8 commodore from australia :D11:41
DJonesjussi: From the skoda website The ŠKODA Octavia’s 1,330kg kerbweight makes it the lightest overall winner in the seven-year history of the Tow Car Awards. That means it’s best suited to pulling relatively light tourers11:41
jussiDJones: and have you considered a town truck? (city 4WD) ?11:41
DJonesjussi: Should go back to my Sedonna, that could probably tow an articulated lorrey11:42
DJonesjussi: Don';t want 4WD because of the fuel consumption11:42
jussiDJones: I still highly suggest a V70 ;) (or XC70)11:44
DJones:)11:44
jussiDJones: i had an S80 for some time - was fantastic11:44
jussiDJones: Ive seen many a V70/S80 that happily go for 700 000km11:45
DJonesI can believe it, volvos are pretty much bomb proof11:46
jussiI guess that is why they are a bit more expensive11:46
jussiDJones: do you like motorsport at all ?11:46
DJonesNot anymore, I used to, but gave up on F1, only ones I may watch now are Indycart or Nascar11:47
jussiif you havent seen this... was awesome! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAFRS5r2g8E11:47
DJonesNice, I used to watch the Bathurst races, they were always good for "incidents"11:50
jussiI love the V8 supercars - especially as they have added mercedes, volvo and nissan to it11:51
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DJonesWhat was the big Holden supercars that used to get raced? GTS/GTR?11:53
DJonesGTS11:54
DJonesUsed to do the accounts for an 'exotic car' importer & he had one in, took me for a ride in it, that was a hell of a car11:55
jussiDJones: i went in a mclaren at 3 sisters a few weeks ago, that was fun11:58
DJonesjussi: Sounds good, I've been on OUlton Park in the old Escort RS's and single seaters, thats quite fun11:59
Hornet[12:09] <BigRedS> I'm sure you're not supposed to do that past midday12:30
Hornetit was before12:30
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BigRedSNot according to my client :) But I don't have the logs here now12:33
Myrttioh, obviously that wasn't the april fools12:36
Myrttiapril fools was that we bend time and posted that actually 12 hours prior12:37
MooDooafternoon all :D12:46
MooDooquiet in here today12:50
nigelbhi MooDoo13:01
brobostigonafternoodlings MooDoo13:10
foobarryglad to hear that nuts mag is dead13:19
foobarrynow for zoo13:20
MooDoocan't say I ever read it, although I do prefer the old sunday sport :D  that's real.13:28
MooDoo;)13:28
popeyI dont think I've ever seen inside Zoo or Nuts13:34
foobarrypopey: me neither, but the front cover is sufficient13:37
* bigcalm tuts13:39
foobarrycan you edit a docx file uploaded to google docs?13:58
foobarry>>yes , but you have to right click and choose editor instead of viewer :S13:58
MartijnVdSonly if you convert it first13:58
foobarrywhat a faff14:00
MartijnVdSnah, it only edits its own format14:01
foobarrynot very intuitive as to what is happening though14:01
foobarryhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/121551314:13
lubotu3Launchpad bug 1215513 in linux (Ubuntu Saucy) "System locks up, requires hard reset" [High,Fix released]14:13
foobarryfixed or not?14:13
foobarryjoin #elementary-dev14:15
foobarrywoops14:16
mappshey14:17
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foobarryis now zrammed up14:47
daftykinsfoobarry: now we know you're a double agent for elementary! ;)14:51
foobarry:P14:53
dwatkinsProfessor Elemental? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eELH0ivexKA14:53
mappszrammed?14:56
dwatkinsour IT guy sent around a mail about training for MS Outlook, Sharepoint etc. - I asked if it was an April fools' joke.14:57
daftykins:D:D14:57
daftykinswas it not?14:57
dwatkinsit was serious14:58
daftykinsd'aww14:59
daftykinssharepoint ugh14:59
dwatkinsyeah14:59
daftykinsi remember when i was teaching at my old College, this new lecturer was desperate to move us to using it for department shared documents like grade tracking and so on15:01
daftykinsbut i liked just having it on a network drive =|15:02
daftykinsespecially as i used to work in their IT support dept. so i knew sharepoint wasn't backed up ;D15:02
mappsu were teaching? cool15:13
daftykinsjust briefly to help out an old College of FE yeah15:13
mappscool15:13
daftykins(further education)15:14
daftykinsgotta stop assuming people know it, heh15:14
daftykinsto this day peeps come up to me and go haaaaaai Dave, at random gigs and stuff across the island, only i may not even know them15:14
mappsi knew it15:14
mappsfrom school?15:14
daftykinsnah like ex students and stuff15:15
daftykinsfrom said College time15:15
mappsah15:20
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/a7fx2r188oaeh66/lappy.JPG15:37
daftykinsblast from the past15:37
dwatkinsboth the phone and the laptop, yeah15:44
daftykins:>15:45
mapps:)16:12
mappswhat yiu doing with that16:13
daftykinsjust digging out some old pictures from years ago16:15
popeyheh, i do that now and then16:15
daftykinsi had that when i was a student in said college ~200316:15
daftykinsbought the Dell from ebay for £140 :D16:16
popeyi go back and find pictures I took on this day some years back and then post them to family on fb16:16
daftykinsthats neat16:17
popeywow, time flies16:18
popeyfound a picture of Sam (who would have been 4 at the time) playing a game on my ipad 1st gen16:18
popeyhe still plays it16:18
daftykins:)16:18
daftykinshrmm, those earlier iPads and what not that have been ditched from iOS updates, would they still contain that big SSL bug?16:19
popeymine is on ios516:19
mappsive got the ipad air:D and nexus716:19
dwatkinsiOS 5 never had that bug, it's only iOS 6 that did.16:19
daftykinsah i see16:19
daftykinsand 716:19
dwatkinshttp://www.iphonehacks.com/2014/02/fix-ssl-bug-without-upgrading-ios-7-0-6-ios-6-1-6.html16:20
popeythe oldest photo I have in my collection is from 199916:20
popeywifey at the airport before I took her on holiday and proposed ☻16:20
daftykins8D16:20
bigcalmAww16:34
mappsrejecte dagain16:55
mapps2nd ballot for tickets to bayern v united16:55
mapps;/16:55
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daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/8i16eae5050qx8w/zelda.png18:20
daftykinsaww yeah18:21
DJonespopey: You around?18:51
DJonesNever mind, an ops was needed in on-aire18:51
popeysurprised jono let that go on as long as he did18:53
DJonesI'm not in the channel so didn't see what was happening, maybe look at logs next time they update18:56
* DJones wonders why software updater doesn't notify me of updates with 14.0418:58
DJonespopey: Seems like they're back and you have ops18:59
diddledandear lord these are nuts: http://www.buzzfeed.com/alanwhite/if-you-want-laughs-and-to-feel-a-bit-sick-you-should-follow19:12
diddledanphotos from crap taxidermy's twitter19:12
daftykinsdiddledan: excellent find19:23
mappshmm19:45
mappscant access my webs erver externally and the ports are forwarded19:45
mappsand no iptables rules19:45
daftykinsdaemon stopped?19:48
mappsna19:48
mappsits this zentyal19:48
mappscausing trouble19:48
mappscant seem to get rid of it now19:48
directhexpopey, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7191275/ is the apparmour log moan19:49
mappshmm19:51
mappshttps://46.64.196.9619:52
mappsworks19:52
mappsbut normal wont19:52
daftykinssounds like your default site has been edited19:54
daftykinsunder apache config19:54
mappssec19:55
mappshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7191300/19:55
mappsi wanna get rid of zentyal and nginx i dunno how now..i added their repo and installed but just cant get t to go19:55
popeydirecthex: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1298021 same as me right?19:56
lubotu3Launchpad bug 1298021 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Google Chrome (not chromium) won't start in guest session" [Undecided,Confirmed]19:56
directhexyes19:57
mappsany ideas daftykins?19:58
popeydirecthex: checked with security bod, it's on his list, it will be fixed19:59
directhexok, great19:59
directhexnext on my list: convince gnome to stop being hidpi19:59
daftykinsmapps: were you always using nginx?20:04
daftykinsmapps: surely just remove the packages? :)20:05
bigcalmNew Humble Bundle is out. Only really interested in 3 items in it though: Droken Sword 2, Bridge Constructor and Type:Rider21:02
bigcalmLikely to give away the other 3 titles21:02
popeyooh21:05
* bigcalm also buys Goat Simulator21:06
bigcalmPlanet Explorers looks nice21:10
diddledanthat goat stimulator looks .. erm .. weird21:10
diddledanI'm not sure I quite understand the concept21:11
diddledanis it "you're a goat. now go get killed in the weirdest way possible"?21:12
daftykinsdiddledan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3YyOMqqMDg21:35
daftykinswarning NSFW ^21:35
daftykinsnot safe for human consumption21:35
daftykinsrude language, etc.21:36
dwatkins"Any key?! Where's the any key?!" - Home Simpson21:44
daftykinsexactly :D21:44
Seeker`All this computer hacking is making me thirsty, I think I'll start a tab21:45
dwatkinsIf you want a tab pal, you gotta buy something!21:45
dwatkins(that was a quote from Back to the Future)21:45
Seeker`(mine was from simpsons :P)21:45
Seeker`followed by "Ooh, no time now, its starting"21:46
Seeker`I think21:46
daftykinshttp://a1.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Purple/v4/5e/89/1a/5e891af6-22cc-e33a-2772-ed579dfe1534/mzl.oojxehsl.png21:46
daftykinsi got this for you21:46
dwatkinsWhy does tab have two arrows on it?21:47
Seeker`you can make text go either way with it21:47
bigcalmTab goes to the right. Shift+tab goes to the left21:47
daftykinsperhaps it's to refer to countries that write from right to left :D21:47
dwatkinsah yes, of course21:48
bigcalmI don't think that's it21:48
dwatkinsand ctrl-tab goes to the next tab...21:48
dwatkins...and ctrl-shift-tab takes you to places you can only imagine21:48
daftykinslike from www.zombo.com21:49
bigcalmhttp://imgur.com/gallery/ltMAjH121:49
* bigcalm slithers off to bed21:50
dwatkinsbigcalm: that's ace, reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP4fWMLofvo21:51
diddledanhow does that imgur work?!21:52
diddledanah hah21:52
diddledanit's not clever at all - they just screenshotted the comments and pasted that at the foot of the image to make it appear clever21:53
daftykins:P21:53
daftykinsa good effort nonetheless21:53
daftykinseven if it is still a major timewasters website21:53
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diddledanI'm guessing they posted this in advance of 1st april: http://imgur.com/blog/2014/03/31/introducing-imgur-viralizer/21:55
dwatkinsThe URL kinda gives that away ;)21:57
diddledanwell my point was that the url says march 31st which is, to the best of my knowledge, not april fools day21:57
dwatkinsIt is in Australia...21:58
diddledanyeah, but it's also winter there21:58
dwatkinsindeed http://peasandcougars.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/is-winter-coming-flowchart.jpg21:59
diddledan(or will be once we can get rid of the effects up here)21:59
diddledanlol21:59
dwatkinsIt must be really strange to see people dressed as Santa Claus / Father Christmas in the height of a blazing summer.21:59
dwatkinsAlso, a fire hazard around the bar-be-que.22:00
diddledanhe should have a summer version for the upside-downers22:00
diddledansports shorts and a vest22:00
dwatkinsI think I need a better graphics card for my windows - the draw distance is really low when I look outside.22:01
diddledano_O22:02
diddledanthe backlight has broken on my window22:02
daftykins>:)22:02
daftykinsi find nature needs to upgrade the sea since GTA V came out22:02
* diddledan wonders how AlanBell is getting on with the libertos cluster22:03
diddledanonce ubuntu/libertos is compiled I suggest retasking the pis to world domination activities22:04
daftykinsdiddledan: skynet becomes pinet?22:18
diddledanthat's a clever parallel22:19
daftykins;)22:19
diddledanI like :-)22:19
diddledanjust been watching this: https://www.meteor.com/screencast <-- I'm worried by their seeming lack of authentication requirements to access the database backend - it seems that anybody driving-by an app can arbitrarily add and remove stuff from the database22:21
daftykinsall beyond me i'm afraid22:40
dwatkinshttp://xkcd.com/327/ explains all23:25

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