| thafreak | loco in akron? there'sa lug that's active in akron, don't think there's a loco though | 13:49 |
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| thafreak | jrgifford: i think you could do that using libvirt... | 13:53 |
| thafreak | wire each vm to a tty | 13:54 |
| thafreak | oh | 13:54 |
| thafreak | unless you meant gui | 13:54 |
| thafreak | i was thinking terminal... | 13:54 |
| thafreak | nm | 13:54 |
| Unit193 | Right, LUG. | 13:55 |
| thafreak | I have alot of 14.04 testing to do :/ | 13:57 |
| thafreak | I'm about to upgrade a few lucid servers...debating on 12.04, or just waiting a few weeks and going to 14.04 | 13:57 |
| thafreak | Anyone try 14.04 on the server? Anyone try it as a libvirt/kvm host? | 13:58 |
| Unit193 | I just finished updating a desktop to it, but not done the server yet. | 13:59 |
| Unit193 | (Won't be doing that for a little.) | 14:00 |
| thafreak | i've only tried the gnome desktop install so far... | 14:00 |
| Unit193 | Xfce here. | 14:00 |
| thafreak | I've been using gnome on jessie though...so | 14:00 |
| thafreak | i'm using xfce at work...but i dunno...things behave odd...it's probably the machine...but i dunno | 14:01 |
| thafreak | plus the newest evolution can natively talk to my employer's stupid exchange P.O.S. | 14:01 |
| thafreak | Unit193: are you one of the folks that's more straight debian...or you still pretty ubuntu loyal? | 14:02 |
| Unit193 | Desktops are Xubuntu (or Lubuntu), I haven't touched Mainbuntu for a while and do not plan to. I have a nice Debian server, and an Ubuntu one. I like both, but Xubuntu tends to keep Xfce just a hair fresher, as Ubuntu does with other desktop applications I use. :/ | 14:04 |
| thafreak | gotcha | 14:04 |
| thafreak | i'm liking debian testing as my dev desktops...but I just can't do it as a server...I'd be installing updates daily | 14:05 |
| Unit193 | Debian testing makes a nice server for me, I'd likely use Unstable for the desktop. | 14:06 |
| thafreak | and since jessie is so close to being released, I'm leary of setting up a new wheezy server, as I'd have to upgrade it in like 2 years | 14:06 |
| thafreak | how often you running updateS? | 14:07 |
| Unit193 | Every few days, but could do with less. Reboots aren't often. | 14:08 |
| thafreak | seems there's a hundered every couple days for me (on the one box where I'm running testing as a server) | 14:08 |
| Unit193 | Mmm, you must have more packages than I do. | 14:08 |
| thafreak | i'm running docker on it...so probably | 14:09 |
| thafreak | docker gets updated pretty frequently itself lately | 14:09 |
| thafreak | the other thing is, I was reading and the security team states that they don't always get around to releasing security fixes for testing as fast | 14:10 |
| thafreak | they suggest sticking with stable for prompt security fixes | 14:10 |
| thafreak | i dunno | 14:10 |
| thafreak | but I'm feeling less and less inclined to stick with ubuntu | 14:10 |
| thafreak | I just like the fact that I can install trusty, and then not have to worry about re-install for 5 years | 14:11 |
| Unit193 | Eh, security updates are set to high, which means they take what, 3 days to transition? | 14:11 |
| Unit193 | Man, can almost remove all of gstreamer0.10, only deps now are pidgin/finch, xfce4-mixer, opera, and xfburn. | 14:12 |
| thafreak | is gstreamer getting phased out? or you personally don't want it? | 14:12 |
| Unit193 | gstreamer1.0 is the new kid. | 14:13 |
| thafreak | is that targeted for trusty? | 14:13 |
| Unit193 | Don't think so, those won't be updated. | 14:13 |
| Unit193 | (opera could be removed, I never use it at all, xombrero and firefox all the way.) Also, re: samba. One trusty box I updated hasn't worked right when it comes to sharing printers or files since, though it can browse them. :/ | 14:14 |
| thafreak | hmmm | 14:16 |
| thafreak | good to know | 14:16 |
| thafreak | That project is coming up... | 14:16 |
| Unit193 | Same version "works" in Debian testing though. (randomly get a strange segfault though.) | 14:16 |
| thafreak | ugh... | 14:18 |
| thafreak | hopefully it gets fixed in trusty in the next few weels | 14:19 |
| thafreak | weeks | 14:19 |
| thafreak | perhaps I should test it myself...maybe submit a bug | 14:19 |
| Unit193 | That'd be nice, except you'll confirm that it's somehow something here. :P | 14:20 |
| Unit193 | (Please let me know if you do.) | 14:20 |
| thafreak | i was [planning on moving setting up a new windows vm at work anyway...might as well set up a trusty and testing vm too | 14:22 |
| jrgifford | thafreak: yeah, i could do that | 15:35 |
| jrgifford | i'm ok with the host being console based | 15:35 |
| jrgifford | i just want to be able to wire each VM to a full-screened Xserver or something. | 15:35 |
| jrgifford | it's a little difficult to explain. :P | 15:35 |
| thafreak | no i got you... | 15:36 |
| thafreak | just not sure how that would work... | 15:36 |
| thafreak | would need some kind of shim | 15:37 |
| thafreak | if the x server was running on the host | 15:37 |
| thafreak | you can do it with sdl I bet...but not sure it will perform very well | 15:37 |
| jrgifford | eh, i'm ok with running windows on the metal and ubuntu in a VM for now... | 15:38 |
| paultag | D: | 15:38 |
| jrgifford | it's not a great setup, but it beats spending all my time tinkering with it... | 15:38 |
| paultag | I don't understand what that means | 15:39 |
| paultag | windows requires more tinkering than Ubuntu or something | 15:39 |
| jrgifford | i can't run all the stupid windows software i need. | 15:40 |
| jrgifford | vm doesn't cut it for performance. :( | 15:40 |
| paultag | windows software ftl | 15:41 |
| jrgifford | i work for a healthcare shop. i'm stuck. :P | 15:41 |
| paultag | real healthcare pros read and write HL7 in sed | 15:41 |
| jrgifford | lol | 15:42 |
| paultag | WTF|O|MG|^BBQ | 15:43 |
| paultag | (I think that's right?) | 15:43 |
| paultag | I've not looked at that garbage for years | 15:43 |
| paultag | I think I still have the "quickstart" guide, which is a triptych the size of a desk, double-sided | 15:44 |
| dzho | also, real healthcare coding: MUMPS | 15:52 |
| thafreak | dzho: but how do you code, tripped over a lawn mower after being shot by an arrow and landed in a scorpion pit? | 15:55 |
| thafreak | Cause that happens enough to require it's own code | 15:55 |
| dzho | thafreak: wut | 16:00 |
| dzho | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUMPS | 16:00 |
| jenni | [ MUMPS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ] - https://j.mp/1dKtOuV | 16:00 |
| dzho | it's like COBOL, but for healthcare | 16:00 |
| dzho | hipster NoSQL | 16:01 |
| dzho | you probably haven't heard of it | 16:01 |
| dzho | oh, I get it | 16:01 |
| dzho | sorry, I misread the "code for" | 16:02 |
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