[00:01] <erm3nda> wait a bit, srry
[00:05] <imacanofcoke> Ubuntu installed properly with UEFI, when I boot[Windows 8*] from GRUB I get "error: unknown command 'drivemap'" and "error: invalid EFI file path." What do?
[00:05] <Viking667> mtnbkr: sudo su -    gets used to log into the root account when you have to have root, but don't have a password.
[00:05] <Viking667> ... though I suspect you know that already.
[00:05] <Viking667> anyhow, I'm clearly out of my depth here.
[00:17] <tackyjan> hello all
[00:17] <tackyjan> :)
[00:17] <tackyjan> can anyone help me with my fresh ubuntu installation? :)
[00:17] <wt> anyone here use EC2 AMIs of ubuntu
[00:18] <wt> I am trying to figure out why upgrading all packages (including the kernel) with salt doesn't update my /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:18] <wt> tackyjan, What's up?
[00:20] <teward> wt, have you tried doing `sudo update-grub`?
[00:20] <wt> yep
[00:20] <wt> update-grub (as root) doesn't seem to change the file
[00:21] <Mneu> If I keep my 14.04 daily install updated, it will be the same as the official release on release day right?
[00:21] <bazhang> yes
[00:21] <rww> ubottu: final
[00:22] <Mneu> Thank you!
[00:22] <ixio2> hi guys how to I enable mod_rewrite with vhosts? I have enabled the mod with a2enmod and restarted apache but do I need to add something to my vhost .conf files ?
[00:23] <wt> However, if I remove the kernel package and then reinstall it, grub-update magically starts working.
[00:23] <wt> This is true on at least trusty latest beta and saucy.
[00:24] <monoton> if I install a new version of ubuntu on a separate partition, will it upgrade GRUB too? (that have its files on this versions partition) or just leave grub as it is?
[00:25] <xar-> ixio2: of course, you need to add an AllowOverride directive.
[00:25] <wt> monoton, I think you can tell it not to install the bootloader during the installer.
[00:25] <monoton> if I then some time later delete the old ubuntu partition, will the boot menu break?
[00:25] <monoton> oh
[00:25] <ixio2> xar- this is done inside the .conf file ?
[00:25] <Viking667> I was wondering that myself, as I happen to have Fedora as well as Ubuntu installed.
[00:25] <xar-> ixio2: yes
[00:26] <erm3nda> mtnbkr: still here
[00:29] <erm3nda> Hi. Q: cannot do a sudo su command using Winscp on a Ubuntu machine. Anyone can help me?
[00:29] <simpleuser> Hi there. I’m creating a vps for the first time. At digitalocean. I choose the smallest one with 512MB / 1 CPU. By default, digitalocean suggests Ubuntu 12.04.3 x64. What do you think?
[00:30] <erm3nda> what do you prefer?
[00:30] <erm3nda> i like debian for servers
[00:30] <erm3nda> i have one digital ocean too
[00:30] <simpleuser> Is a 64bits interesting if there’s only 512mb ram?
[00:30] <rww> 12.04.3 is fine, though 14.04 is coming out next month so you'll probably want that in a few months. I'd go with 32-bit for that spec, not 64-bit, unless DO is special about that somehow.
[00:30] <rww> and yes, I'd be using Debian anyway, but this is #ubuntu so w/e
[00:30] <Viking667> I'd also go for Debian on those specs
[00:30] <erm3nda> 64 bit only has importance when you have much more ram
[00:30] <simpleuser> Yeah, that’s what I thought…
[00:31] <erm3nda> but, use 64bit will not inflighe any damage :)
[00:31] <simpleuser> For Debian, maybe… but I’m more comfortable with Ubuntu. Especially for a first vps experience :)
[00:31] <erm3nda> hey Viking, did u see anything related to my question?? i can start whole process again
[00:32] <erm3nda> need to use winscp to my ubuntu server
[00:32] <simpleuser> So Ubuntu 13.10 x32  maybe ?
[00:32] <Viking667> erm3nda: and use what command again? As what user?
[00:32] <Viking667> simpleuser: yah. Don't forget though, with DO, what're you using it for?
[00:32] <Viking667> i.e. what are you using the VPS to do?
[00:33] <erm3nda> i test winscp with other ubuntu machine, and is worling
[00:33] <erm3nda> maybe i do something wrong
[00:33] <simpleuser> Viking667, DO? I’m just hosting a small website
[00:33] <Viking667> erm3nda: that's not the question I asked.
[00:33] <Viking667> "DO" as in, Digital Ocean.
[00:33] <erm3nda> is a testing purpose, no production nor website
[00:33] <erm3nda> error when i tried to create a folder
[00:33] <Viking667> right. So you're not likely to need a desktop version of Ubuntu... perhaps a Server version instead.
[00:34] <Viking667> BUT... you really need to know your commandline in that case.
[00:34] <erm3nda> ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[00:34] <simpleuser> Viking667, oh. Ok for DO ^^
[00:34] <Viking667> erm3nda: right. What command are you trying to run?
[00:35] <simpleuser> Viking667, I’m cool with cli
[00:35] <Viking667> good. If you're going with a debian-based system anyhow, you should be comfortable with setting up apache or whatever other web provider you'll use.
[00:36] <simpleuser> Viking667, I need a VPS to host my website with a specially configured mysql
[00:36] <Viking667> Right. So you'll need mysql for sure, what're you using for web server?
[00:36] <simpleuser> Yep.
[00:36] <erm3nda> im not using any command, just connecting with winscp
[00:36] <simpleuser> apache
[00:36] <Viking667> erm3nda: and?
[00:36] <erm3nda> i can connect using a normal account, cannot use root
[00:36] <erm3nda> if i use a normal account, cannot create files
[00:36] <erm3nda> because sudo i think
[00:36] <scam3r> why not just use a LAMP virtual machine..?
[00:37] <diamondflyer> good evening all
[00:37] <Viking667> erm3nda: ahhh. it could be that you need to check if you're in the sudoer's group, and if your user is currently in /etc/sudoers.d/
[00:37] <erm3nda> id try
[00:37] <erm3nda> that is on winscp documentation
[00:37] <simpleuser> scam3r, Need a special mysql configuration
[00:37] <scam3r> ok
[00:37] <Viking667> anyhow I need to bail.
[00:38] <woofpluf> Hello people of the linux world, I was just reading up on 7zip and linux/unix and I read a warning not to be used on linux because ''7zip does not store ther owner/group of a file''. Would anyone here know what the meaning of this would be and why is it such a big deal that 7zip doesn't store them?
[00:38] <basketball> how do i find a wallpaper for my pc
[00:38] <basketball> i dont like any of the included onmes
[00:38] <simpleuser> basketball, ? Any image on the net
[00:38] <xar-> basketball: google.
[00:38] <simpleuser> or type wallpaper on google xD
[00:38] <Beldar> woofpluf, That is beyond ubuntu support try ##linux
[00:39] <scam3r> don't google google...your break the internet....
[00:40] <woofpluf> Beldar: k i understand
[00:40] <erm3nda> Viking667: is not on /etc/suders file?
[00:40] <simpleuser> basketball, https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=basketball+wallpaper
[00:42] <BlueProtoman> Help me.  I tried to install MinGW on my (Ubuntu 13.10) computer, and I accidentally overwrote the headers for the standard library GCC normally uses.
[00:42] <erm3nda> Viking667: my /etc/sudoers.d directory is empty
[00:42] <erm3nda> how must i add a user?
[00:42] <erm3nda> would... wow, my english is destroyer level XD
[00:43] <erm3nda> BlueProtoman, you can dowload again headers
[00:43] <erm3nda> try apt-get install linux-headers
[00:43] <erm3nda> are a virtual package, it will tell you available packagers
[00:45] <BlueProtoman> erm3nda: Installing now, I'll let you know how it goes
[00:45] <erm3nda> MY PROBLEM IS SOLVED. Intead to enable sudo nor sudoers on ubuntu, i put a password for the root user... so now i use it yo my connection
[00:46] <erm3nda> hate sudo :S
[00:46] <qin> erm3nda: Fantastic, Ubuntu with broken sudo and root password, keep it up ;)
[00:47] <BlueProtoman> erm3nda: Nope, didn't work.
[00:47] <wt> Why does the following not put the new kernel into my /boot/grub/menu.lst?  --> DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get -y -o 'DPkg::Options::=--force-confold' -o 'DPkg::Options::=--force-confdef' install linux-image-virtual
[00:47] <wt> Also, running update-grub doesn't work
[00:47] <scam3r> have u tried switching it off and on again..?  or reinstalled it...  XD
[00:47] <sydneyJDykstra> What are ubuntu trusty's minimum system specs?
[00:48] <scam3r> x486
[00:48] <scam3r> DX4 100Mhz
[00:48] <kingplusplus> please how do i save a file to my PATH? dont know what that means
[00:48] <kingplusplus> this is the file i want to save in a directory in my PATH 256colors2.pl
[00:49] <Beldar> sydneyJDykstra, same as ever and 14.04 is on #ubuntu+1 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[00:49] <kingplusplus> so my question is what is PATH and how do i go above some files in a director there
[00:50] <xar-> erm3nda: if you're using the root user directly, you're doing it wrong.
[00:50] <Beldar> erm3nda, a root password in ubuntu is not needed and not within  it's design, and bad technique.
[00:50] <erm3nda> qin: xar: use the root is not a problem for my
[00:51] <erm3nda> problem is to manage sudo trought winscp program
[00:51] <Artemis3> erm3nda, its your lack of skill, ie: sudo -i
[00:51] <erm3nda> im sure, im not a linux like defender, just using a workaround :(
[00:51] <scam3r> http://askubuntu.com/questions/141718/what-is-path-environment-variable-and-how-to-add-it
[00:51] <scam3r> PATH
[00:51] <scam3r> that should get you sorted...
[00:51] <erm3nda> artemis3, sure, im here for that reason, dont?
[00:52] <Beldar> erm3nda, Plenty of linux distros, that have a root password, ubuntu is not designed for it and use nicks here
[00:52] <xar-> erm3nda: It's not my business how you administer your environment; that being said, this topic is well documented @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo. I recommend reading this document to understand WHY root is disabled by design.
[00:52] <erm3nda> anyway, if anyone can help me, i will configure it to use the normal account and do the sudo
[00:52] <erm3nda> xar, i just a concrete sutuation, im not stupid, i know to use sudo
[00:52] <scam3r> just do "sudo passwd" and type the password u want for root....
[00:53] <jpds> !noroot | scam3r
[00:53] <erm3nda> i have problems using winscp with a normal account
[00:53] <erm3nda> damn
[00:53] <scam3r> ok...
[00:53] <Beldar> scam3r, root passwords are not part of this channels allowed help.
[00:53] <xar-> Beldar we don't need a channel echo. Ubottu already said it.
[00:54] <erm3nda> i dont need help with root password
[00:54] <erm3nda> i dont know what are you tipping...
[00:54] <Beldar> xar-, Dude we do not always see every post, so keep it to yourself.
[00:54] <xar-> erm3nda: Why not setup an unprivileged user and give ownership to the directory/files to the unprivileged user?
[00:55] <jpds> erm3nda: So you want to give a user sudo rights?
[00:55] <simpleuser> If I’m running an update or a compilation on my vps (digitalocean) through my firefox, and my browser (or my computer) crashes. What happens on my vps ?
[00:55] <xar-> simpleuser: probably best to ask DO directly
[00:55] <simpleuser> xar-, yeah.
[00:56] <simpleuser> Clever :p
[00:56] <xar-> imagine that right? :)
[00:56] <Beldar> xar-, And honestly you just repeated what I said above.
[00:56] <erm3nda> i got that error when i tried to do a sudo su command with winscp :  sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[00:56] <qin> Oh... sudo su is not relly ok too
[00:57] <erm3nda> note: i've installed ssh_askpass and add some config to /etc/sudoers
[00:57] <jpds> erm3nda: Yeah, that's because SSH doesn't open a fake TTY by default.
[00:57] <erm3nda> my sudoer.d path is empy, dont know how to add a user
[00:57] <ahaddatechinicia> add a user to sudo?
[00:57] <erm3nda> to sudoers
[00:57] <kingplusplus> this is the file i want to save in a directory in my PATH 256colors2.pl so pleas where is my PATH?
[00:58] <jpds> kingplusplus: echo $PATH
[00:58] <BruceJP> for years I have used encfs - on a recent install I decided to allow the system encrypt my home directory.  It seems VERY SLOW - is this something I have done wrong?
[00:58] <ahaddatechinicia> wouldn't you have to use visudo or something along those lines?
[00:58] <erm3nda> i put on /etc/sudoers file that: user	ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[00:58] <erm3nda> as specified on winscp help
[00:59] <ahaddatechinicia> may I ask how you are editing the sudoers file
[00:59] <erm3nda> i have disabled tty on /etc/sudoers file using that: Defaults:user !requiretty
[00:59] <erm3nda> using nano
[01:00] <erm3nda> nano /etc/sudoers
[01:01] <xar-> erm3nda: Why not simply create a user and/or group who's given privilege to access the resources you need it to?
[01:01] <erm3nda> because i dont know how to
[01:01] <ahaddatechinicia> The correct way to edit the sudoers file is with the visudo command
[01:01] <erm3nda> there's an admin group
[01:01] <erm3nda> adduser user admin ?
[01:01] <qin> erm3nda: ok, you add user to sudo: sudo adduser <username> sudo; but why would you need sudo for ftp client?
[01:02] <erm3nda> aha, sudo is the group?
[01:02] <erm3nda> ftp is shit, srry
[01:02] <erm3nda> i use scp
[01:02] <qin> or admin group
[01:02] <erm3nda> my user is already on sudo group
[01:03] <erm3nda> will try admin group
[01:03] <erm3nda> does not exist
[01:03] <ahaddatechinicia> erm I don't understand what you are trying to do
[01:03] <Wayward_Vagabond> My graphics seem to be stuck in 1024x768, the screen scales it up to 1200x900, then letterboxes it
[01:03] <Wayward_Vagabond> Anybody know how to go about fixing this?
[01:03] <qin> scam3r: dude, learn about permissions, and prepare directory for datastorage, so you would not need to wreck your system to use winscp
[01:03] <Wayward_Vagabond> A full screen wine program crashed when starting, and it's been like that since
[01:04] <xar-> did you ask in #wine Wayward_Vagabond ?
[01:04] <erm3nda> wich group would i use?
[01:04] <erm3nda> won change owner of files
[01:04] <ahaddatechinicia> did you try using xrandr to set a custom resolution
[01:04] <erm3nda> won't
[01:04] <qin> scam3r: sorry, wrong highlight
[01:04] <Wayward_Vagabond> ahaddatechinicia: Setting it to 1600x900 in the nvidia settings doesn't work
[01:05] <Foxhoundz> I need help
[01:05] <xar-> erm3nda: Linux is flexible, you can create a user and a group of any name of your choosing.
[01:05] <Wayward_Vagabond> it keeps the same scaling and shows the upper left 1024x768 of it
[01:05] <qin> erm3nda: you can create group, cant you?
[01:05] <Foxhoundz> for some reason apache is not rewriting modules
[01:05] <Foxhoundz> I mean
[01:05] <Foxhoundz> rewriting URLs
[01:05] <Wayward_Vagabond> xar-: I'll try there too
[01:05] <erm3nda> quin: i can
[01:05] <Foxhoundz> I enabled mod_rewriteb e but it's not working
[01:05] <ahaddatechinicia> try this:
[01:06] <ahaddatechinicia> cvt 1600x900
[01:06] <ahaddatechinicia> in the terminal
[01:06] <erm3nda> i add my user to root group, permission denied to write anyway
[01:07] <erm3nda> Foxhoundz: ensure you enable it. a2enmod rewrite
[01:07] <zubuntu> hi
[01:07] <qin> erm3nda: so? use specifing permission for group "winscpgroup" and chenge group ownership of revelant directories and add revelant users to group, tada
[01:07] <ahaddatechinicia> erm, use visudo to edit the sudoers file
[01:07] <ahaddatechinicia> you must run visudo as root though
[01:08] <BlueProtoman> Help me.  I tried to install MinGW on my (Ubuntu 13.10) computer, and I accidentally overwrote the headers for the standard library GCC normally uses.
[01:08] <erm3nda> qin, will try
[01:08] <Wayward_Vagabond> ahaddatechinicia: that came back as invalid
[01:08] <zubuntu> will the new icon theme be available for 14.04 ?
[01:08] <Wayward_Vagabond> usage: cvt [-v|--verbose] [-r|--reduced] X Y [refresh]
[01:08] <zubuntu> or not ?
[01:08] <erm3nda> ahaddatechinicia: why it that different to use nano?
[01:08] <qin> !who | ahaddatechinicia
[01:09] <ahaddatechinicia> its safer as it warns you of mistakes which could break your system
[01:10] <zubuntu> will the new icon theme be available for 14.04 ?
[01:10] <zubuntu> some says yes, some no
[01:10] <scam3r> !tab
[01:10] <ahaddatechinicia> !tab Wayward_Vagabond try this: cvt 1600 900 60
[01:10] <qin> zubuntu: #ubuntu+1 for few more days
[01:10] <wt> The only diff between a working system (after an uninstall/reinstall of the kernel) and a broken one (a freshly spun up instance on EC2) is that the type of one of the debconf questions is different
[01:10] <kostkon> zubuntu, as a preview maybe. more in #ubuntu+1
[01:10] <wt> "multiselect" in the working case; "string" in the broken case
[01:11] <scam3r> ! zubuntu when is it being released..? as i am too lazy to google it...
[01:11] <zubuntu> where is  #ubuntu+1 ?
[01:11] <wt> everything else appears to be the same in the debconf db
[01:11] <kostkon> scam3r, 17th
[01:11] <zubuntu> scam3r:  in middle of april
[01:11] <scam3r> ! zubuntu thanks...
[01:11] <zubuntu> 2-3 weeks
[01:11] <zubuntu> i am really excited with new icons
[01:11] <Wayward_Vagabond> ahaddatechinicia: should I paste the results of it and link?
[01:12] <zubuntu> is it possible to download and give it a try as beta ?
[01:12] <zubuntu> i mean just icon theme
[01:12] <qin> zubuntu: /j #ubuntu+1 for 14.04 channel
[01:12] <ahaddatechinicia> wayward, if you can
[01:12] <zubuntu> ok ok :p
[01:12] <scam3r> does 14.04 have the replacement for X in it?  or do we still have to wait?
[01:12] <kazyn> i've got fresh ubuntu 12.4 LTS on my desktop and its working much slower then windows(it can hang at the simple opening of new card in firefox), anyone know why? ive installed graphic card drivers and didnt help
[01:13] <zubuntu> kazyn:  same with me :S
[01:13] <kazyn> :D
[01:13] <zubuntu> booting slow
[01:13] <kazyn> any solution for this?
[01:13] <ahaddatechinicia> wayward also post the results of xrandr
[01:13] <zubuntu> i dont have solution kazyn  :p
[01:13] <scam3r> have you encrypted your home folder??
[01:13] <kazyn> :(
[01:13] <zubuntu> by the way ppl in #ubuntu+1 are sleeping :S
[01:14] <zubuntu> windows 8.1 is very fast logging in
[01:14] <zubuntu> why dont they do for ubuntu ?
[01:14] <Beldar> !tab | ahaddatechinicia for your pleasure
[01:15] <scam3r> ! zubuntu if you ask a question like that, u need to go back to windows...
[01:15] <zubuntu> scam3r: nope i want ubuntu improves
[01:15] <Wayward_Vagabond> ahaddatechinicia: http://pastebin.com/zGeDz0UE
[01:15] <zubuntu> why dont ppl like critisizing ?
[01:16] <q0> where do i ask a question about networking or routers and firmware ?
[01:16] <scam3r> ! zubuntu i am running 13.04 and my laptop boots in 6 seconds from cold...
[01:16] <zubuntu> they have ready answer " if u dont like, go "
[01:16] <zubuntu> this is not a solution
[01:16] <erm3nda> qin: i add my user to root group. permission denied. is that about use root group??
[01:16] <qin> zubuntu: it does, but if you feel like your box cant handle you may want to give a go Xubuntu or Lubuntu
[01:16] <erm3nda> qin: won't change folder permissions
[01:16] <zubuntu> no qin
[01:16] <zubuntu> i love just Ubuntu
[01:16] <erm3nda> qin: actually, are owned to root, and group root
[01:16] <qin> erm3nda: where did you get idea of adding anything to root group?
[01:17] <zubuntu> scam3r:  maybe it s because of multi boot ?
[01:17] <q0> I'm looking for a router or firmware for studying, any recommendations ?
[01:17] <zubuntu> even i log off ( not reboot ) it takes more than 10 seconds to see the desktop
[01:17] <erm3nda> qin: i think to add my user to root is like use root directly, but doesnt work
[01:17] <scam3r> ! zubuntu if you really want to speed boot times, get a SSD...
[01:17] <erm3nda> qin: do i need to change owner or group of my files??
[01:17] <zubuntu> scam3r:  i dont have money for that yet
[01:18] <ahaddatechinicia> !tab Wayward_Vagabond  could you also post the output of xrandr?
[01:18] <zubuntu> i m using core2duo with sata hd i think
[01:18] <scam3r> ! zubuntu ok...
[01:18] <ahaddatechinicia> sorry I have to go for now
[01:18] <zubuntu> why do u put ! infront of my nick ? O.o
[01:19] <Artemis3> !offtopic
[01:19] <scam3r> it's a habit from using talkers in the90's
[01:19] <erm3nda> qin: is OK to change entire www folder to another user than original root???
[01:19] <qin> q0: ddwrt and any router they support, or tomato, not sure if still maintained
[01:19] <Wayward_Vagabond> http://pastebin.com/00gghkHZ
[01:19] <zubuntu> it makes me like i did something bad lol
[01:19] <q0> qin, thank you !
[01:19] <zubuntu> Artemis3:  u mean i should go somewhere else ? :p
[01:19] <scam3r> ! zubuntu no problem, i can go back to doing that...
[01:20] <zubuntu> ok scam3r  feel free XD
[01:20] <qin> erm3nda: yes it is ok, trick is to set proper pesmissions, so you wont get owned overnight
[01:20] <erm3nda> qin: changin owner was OK, now i can write too...
[01:20] <erm3nda> qin: but, i have set a passwd for root... how can i restore it to blank??
[01:21] <qin> erm3nda: great question
[01:21] <erm3nda> id tried passwd but cannot write "blank"
[01:21] <erm3nda> qin: manually editing?
[01:21] <scam3r> change root password to password....
[01:22] <scam3r> no one will guess that... XD
[01:22] <qin> erm3nda: apparently: sudo passwd -dl root
[01:22] <scam3r> but the password is shadowed...?
[01:23] <erm3nda> qin: yeah, it does! thank you
[01:23] <qin> scam3r: either revelant acurate answer or keep hint away, at least in serious matters, please.
[01:24] <qin> erm3nda: as xar- pointed, it may be usefull for you to skim that text: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[01:26] <zubuntu> do u suggest me to install 14.04 final beta ?
[01:27] <qin> maybe.
[01:27] <erm3nda> qin: i know sudo, but cannot use when tried from winscp console. on a normal shell has no problem
[01:27] <twirm> how can I add a tag to a bug I've filed on Launchpad?
[01:27] <erm3nda> i have also Ubuntu on my desktop, so i use sudo a lot of times
[01:28] <erm3nda> even if i cant do sudo from winscp, changing owner of entire www folder solves perfectly
[01:28] <zubuntu> is there a way to install it without downloading ? directly like upgrading?
[01:29] <Artemis3> zubuntu, why the rush, just wait a few days
[01:29] <zubuntu> cant wait lol
[01:29] <qin> erm3nda: i am not sure about winscp, not really kin to know tbh.
[01:29] <zubuntu> by the way i think they wont put new icon theme :S
[01:29] <zubuntu> i feel disappointed a bit
[01:30] <zubuntu> in screenshots all have same icons
[01:30] <Artemis3> april 17
[01:30] <zubuntu> yes soon
[01:31] <twirm> does anyone know how to add tags to bugs on launchpad?
[01:31] <randomperson> What would happen if my flashdrive accidently got unplugged during a ubuntu upgrade? Whould i still be able t finish toe upgrade?
[01:31] <twirm> is there a better channel for this?
[01:31] <BlueProtoman> Help me.  I tried to install MinGW on my (Ubuntu 13.10) computer, and I accidentally overwrote the headers for the standard library GCC normally uses.
[01:32] <qin> !alice
[01:33] <randomperson> ?
[01:33] <AP> hi
[01:34] <Beldar> randomperson, Upgrade, a usb would be a fresh install.
[01:34] <randomperson> Beldar: to upgrade ffrom a flash drive.
[01:34] <scam3r> if u are upgrading, it shouldn't matter....
[01:35] <AP> i'm an alice
[01:35] <AP> how may i help u
[01:35] <scam3r> fresh install  could be an issue...
[01:35] <Beldar> randomperson, I have not seen a upgrade option on a live in awhile, are you sure, or is this a fresh ubuntu using a home partition already there?
[01:37] <kingplusplus> please anyone know where vim colors are stored in Xubuntu?
[01:41] <f00lg> hi, i'm using ubuntu 14.04, i want to change lightdm background, any hint?
[01:41] <qin> AP: funny
[01:41] <Beldar> !14.04| f00lg sure
[01:41] <randomperson> Beldar: Well ,I can upgrade ubuntu using a flash drive. I would like to do it right in the ubuntu desktop,but I don't want to upgrade to ubuntu trusty,I want to upgrade to Lubuntu trusty. I won't do this till april 17.
[01:42] <Beldar> randomperson, So you are upgrading from what release?
[01:42] <qin> f00lg: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64001/how-do-i-change-the-wallpaper-in-lightdm
[01:42] <randomperson> Beldar:  12.04
[01:43] <zubuntu> night
[01:43] <Beldar> randomperson, since you started already, and seem to have been in the upgrade, not download, I would boot it to a command line and try sudo apt-get -f install    and see if it finishes.
[01:44] <randomperson> Beldar: Thanks!!
[01:44] <Beldar> randomperson, Hope that works, no prob.
[01:45] <randomperson> Has anyone tried to upgrade ubuntu to lubuntu? what changes except the interface?
[01:45] <qin> kingplusplus: ~/.vim/colors/
[01:46] <kingplusplus> qin,  this directory doesn't exist.. os i created it and put my colors there
[01:46] <kingplusplus> but still doesn't work
[01:46] <qin> kingplusplus: apart of restart vim, that terminal are you using?
[01:47] <kingplusplus> qin am using Xfce Terminal Emulator
[01:47] <FreewheelinFrank> what channel topic is this?
[01:48] <Beldar> FreewheelinFrank, look at the channel header.
[01:48] <qin> kingplusplus: did you try different color file, just in case?
[01:48] <kingplusplus> qin yes
[01:48] <qin> FreewheelinFrank: /topic
[01:48] <FreewheelinFrank> Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines: http://ubottu.com/y/gl | IRC info: http://ubottu.com/y/irc | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ | Release Notes: http://ubottu.com/y/rn | Download: http://ubottu.com/y/dl | Currently supported versions 10.04 LTS (server), 12.04 LTS, 12.10 and 13.10 | Questions about Trusty/14.04 go in #ubuntu+1 until it is officially released.
[01:48] <kingplusplus> when do colorscheme blue it works
[01:49] <randomperson> Beldar: Or shuld I upgrade from a cd to be safe?
[01:49] <FreewheelinFrank> yeah so is that the channel header or what?
[01:49] <kingplusplus> ooh qin sorry have not tried others let me try
[01:49] <qin> FreewheelinFrank: it is topic.
[01:49] <GA_> #macosx
[01:50] <FreewheelinFrank> is it topic official ubuntu support channel
[01:50] <FreewheelinFrank> ?
[01:50] <qin> Aha
[01:50] <FreewheelinFrank> specialty nothing?
[01:51] <Beldar> randomperson, I would image/clone the 12.04 than upgrade from the on board tools. However I never upgrade, but fresh install.
[01:51] <FreewheelinFrank> anyways, i want to install ubuntu on a usb drive 500GB from another USB thumb drive 16GB without having to reboot my home cpu running ubuntu
[01:51] <randomperson> Beldar: ok
[01:51] <FreewheelinFrank> thats not really support though?
[01:52] <qin> Well.
[01:52] <FreewheelinFrank> just to avoid inconvenience
[01:52] <FreewheelinFrank> i am a total newbie
[01:52] <qin> Hit it, mate.
[01:52] <FreewheelinFrank> am still looking for code dictionary
[01:53] <qin> Right, let me ask obvious, what code?
 you talkin to me? oops
[01:54] <qin> FreewheelinFrank: Yes.
 THANK BABY JESUS
[01:55] <AP> his name is jewsus to be historically correct
[01:55] <qin> FreewheelinFrank: leave children out of it
 anyways, i want to install ubuntu on a usb drive 500GB from another USB thumb drive 16GB without having to reboot my home cpu running ubuntu
[01:55] <AP> jesus is one of many scholarly translations
does that stand for Associated Press?
[01:55] <AP> yes
[01:56] <AP> im the associated press
[01:56] <AP> all up in ur biz
[01:56] <AP> so tell me FreewheelinFrank
[01:56] <FreewheelinFrank> yowza
[01:56] <qin> FreewheelinFrank: Do you want to just clone it, or make new install?
[01:56] <AP> what did you do today
for the love of god i need a new install but i'm tired, so tired
i worked like the dog i am
[01:57] <AP> o:
[01:57] <AP> tell me more about this story Mr Dog
[01:57] <FreewheelinFrank> ah yes
[01:57] <AP> does ne1 here watch hectors house?
[01:58] <qin> FreewheelinFrank: Do you have Ubuntu iso? If yoyu do not want to download one, you can "clone" system form one usb to other using dd
[01:58] <bazhang> !ot | ap
[01:59] <qin> All users of offtopic are grateful
no its al folders
[02:00] <happyfr0gg> Hello! How can I be of assistance this evening?
oh no what have you done
[02:03] <FreewheelinFrank> !ot AP
[02:03] <qin> FreewheelinFrank: Well either you can simply download iso and install using Startup Disk Creator, or copy raw image from usb with installed Ubuntu to empty usb, more difficult method.
so how do i get that selection to show on bootup?
[02:05] <qin> FreewheelinFrank: You mean live CD menu, or grub menu?
grub i guess because this is after i restart the computer, before it gets me to a login screen.
[02:07] <qin> FreewheelinFrank: hold Shift while booting
[02:08] <qin> FreewheelinFrank: What do you want to do?
ok. yes i could in theory do that. but i don't want to reboot this computer. is that possible?
[02:09] <tamara> hi
[02:09] <tamara> hi'
[02:09] <qin> FreewheelinFrank: Do you have internet access?
why do you ask?
hello
[02:11] <tamara> Taylor do you live in erie
[02:11] <qin> FreewheelinFrank: Because it takes 10 minutes for iso to get to your hdd from www.ubuntu.com, another 10-20 minutes for Startup Disk Creator to instal Ubuntu on usb drive
[02:11] <Beldar> tamara, This is ubuntu support.
actually no, we are communicating telpathetically
[02:11] <FreewheelinFrank> FAIL
[02:12] <tamara> say i if you play minecraft
[02:12] <FreewheelinFrank> nay
[02:12] <Beldar> !ot  tamara
[02:12] <Beldar> !ot | tamara
[02:13] <tamara> cool
[02:14] <qin> FreewheelinFrank: if you do not feel like waiting for download: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1462792
[02:14] <qin> tamara: yeah
 thx
[02:18] <tamara> who plays woozworld
[02:18] <bazhang> tamara, thats not on topic here
[02:18] <bazhang> tamara, for chit chat go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:19] <tamara> oh ok what is topic
[02:19] <bazhang> tamara, ubuntu support only
[02:20] <tamara> why
[02:20] <bazhang> tamara, its the official ubuntu support channel, thats why
[02:20] <vanishing> !ot
[02:20] <tamara> well i dont care
[02:20] <bazhang> tamara, we do
[02:20] <vanishing> well you can leave
[02:21] <tamara> i dont have to
[02:21] <vanishing> !op
[02:21] <vanishing> yes you do
[02:21] <tamara> no in dont
[02:22] <qin> Interesting.
[02:22] <xar-> where's that colbert popcorn .gif i've been saving...
[02:26] <Xtremeasure> hey guys finally got updated to 12.04, im having a problem though im trying to get the cinnamon DE to work and am having crashes on login can anyone help out ?
[02:27] <pvl1> Xtremeasure: any error codes
[02:27] <pvl1> check your logs
[02:27] <pvl1> check ~/Xsesionserrors
[02:27] <pvl1> or whatever the file is
[02:27] <Beldar> Xtremeasure, That is a ppa desktop.
[02:27] <Beldar> !ppa
[02:28] <pvl1> ~/.xsession-errors
[02:28] <pvl1> thank one
[02:30] <Xtremeasure> yeah it looks like one of the libs for cinnamon is throwing an error and Beldar i understand in 12.04 this is a PPA but was hoping to scratch someones brain on the issue
[02:30] <mmazing> i installed Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 LTS alongside vanilla 12.04 LTS, and am trying to transfer application settings and whatnot from 12.04 -> 14.04, i backed up my 14.04 home dir and replaced it with 12.04, and there's a lot of jacked up stuff like window borders and colors and my application menu is wrong, obviously i killed some important settings
[02:31] <Xtremeasure> especially since it is a repository install on anything passed 12.04
[02:31] <mmazing> so my question is -> what's a good way to move from 12.04 -> 14.04 gnome and keep settings
[02:31] <Beldar> Xtremeasure, PPA's are not supported here as the bots message says is all.
[02:31] <pvl1> mmazing: what settings
[02:31] <mmazing> or do i need to go through .config and other directories by hand
[02:31] <Beldar> not anything release past 12.04
[02:31] <mmazing> chrome settings, background, other application settings like steam etc
[02:32] <mmazing> i guess i should probably start over with wine, etc
[02:32] <pvl1> mmazing: id make your home folder a dir in your new home folder... and just copy . files
[02:32] <pvl1> er dirs
[02:32] <pvl1> idkdoing this never failed for me
[02:32] <pvl1> are you using the same DE as before
[02:33] <mmazing> pvl1: thanks, i'll try that, i just rsynced everything over to another folder and replaced everything
[02:33] <mmazing> just .files it is
[02:33] <Xtremeasure> yes there is a release passed 12.04?
[02:34] <xar-> Xtremeasure: /join #ubuntu+1
[02:34] <bazhang> mmazing, you can do a one step LTS-LTS upgrade path
[02:34] <bazhang> 12.04--14.04
[02:34] <bazhang> mmazing, what you are proposing is a HUGE amount of unnecessary work
[02:35] <mmazing> bazhang: i want to switch to ubuntu GNOME though, so would that still be possible?
[02:35] <bazhang> mmazing, yes
[02:35] <Beldar> mmazing, You can also separate your home to a partition in the future if not already done. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[02:36] <mmazing> hmm, ok, ill duplicate my 12.04 install partition and do an upgrade
[02:36] <pvl1> http://xkcd.com/1343/
[02:36] <bazhang> the LTS will not show as available until 4/17 mmazing
[02:36] <mmazing> im going to separate out my home directory, however my 12.04 is encrypted and im not quite ready to mess with that
[02:36] <bazhang> pvl1, dont paste that here
[02:36] <xar-> just make a backup, if things melt down, who cares, restore from the backup.
[02:36] <pvl1> sorry
[02:37] <mmazing> xar-: i've got plenty of space, i like to be able to take a break and go back to my regular install and contemplate solutions while the other sits there borked :)
[02:40] <mgfox> hello?
[02:40] <pvl1> hello!
[02:40] <mgfox> hi, i have a question regarding ubuntu live cd
[02:40] <mgfox> it just hangs at loading bootlogo
[02:41] <mgfox> any suggestions?
[02:41] <Beldar> mgfox, and hangs means?
[02:41] <bazhang> check the md5sum mgfox
[02:41] <bazhang> !md5 | mgfox
[02:41] <vanishing> mgfox: try to add nomodeset before boot
[02:41] <xar-> pvl1: nice link lol
[02:41] <mgfox> black screen white text "loading bootlogo.."
[02:41] <pvl1> thanks cabe
[02:41] <pvl1> xar-: **
[02:42] <xar-> pvl1: although the efficacy of manuals very much depends on the experience of the user; for novices for example, man pages are terrifying.
[02:42] <Beldar> mgfox, Try the nomodeset option, checking the md5sum is a good check as well.
[02:42] <pvl1> xar-: i quickly fell in love with them. i think at one point i even knew how to search within a page
[02:42] <Beldar> !nomodeset
[02:42] <pvl1> but then forgot
[02:43] <pvl1> so i just google man pages xar- much easier to scroll and such
[02:43] <AP> omg
[02:44] <mgfox> nomodeset option?
[02:45] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132  <--- mgfox
[02:51] <mgfox> ok thanks
[03:00] <peace2peace> hi everyone,
[03:01] <AB49K> herro
[03:01] <peace2peace> this news is true? http://itsfoss.com/facebook-to-buy-ubuntu-for-3-billion/
[03:01] <bazhang> no
[03:01] <bazhang> it's april 1 peace2peace
[03:02] <cfhowlett> peace2peace, there's a tradition in the USA = April Fool's Day
[03:02] <peace2peace> :)
[03:02] <peace2peace> au thank you,
[03:03] <AB49K> If you click on the read more page, it actually takes you to the wikipedia april fools page :')
[03:04] <Beldar> I was looking for the onion link, lol
[03:04] <qin> cfhowlett: you did not ment to say that April Fools is American tradition, did you?
[03:06] <cfhowlett> qin, he asked about facebook buying ubuntu.  seemed to be the time to remind everyone what day it is.
[03:07] <rww> cfhowlett: April Fools Day predates America existing, fyi
[03:08] <cfhowlett> rww, :-)  right right
[03:08] <Artemis3> and they would buy Canonical instead ;)
[03:08] <lstefani> lstefani> hello. how i can change a file with drwxr-xr-x 5 nobody nobody   to  drwxr-xr-x 5 root root? ok i run chown root:root file_name, but not work
[03:09] <rww> not sure why someone would want to do that, they're a money sink
[03:10] <Beldar> so was redhat at one time
[03:10] <qin> They have edge.
[03:16] <Genitrust> weird... Ubuntu's website has instructions on how to put ubuntu (for installation) onto a USB stick...
[03:17] <Genitrust> ...but does not include instructions for Linux users -.-
[03:17] <Genitrust> wait @.@ i found it
[03:17] <utusan> usb_creator is what you use
[03:17] <Artemis3> Genitrust, dd works
[03:17] <Genitrust> Artemis3, really? just dd the downloaded image?
[03:17] <Genitrust> that was my first guess, but i really just wanted to find some verification
[03:18] <rww> yes
[03:18] <Genitrust> i saw the mac instructions... but the whole "disc image" converter made me feel like maybe dd from the iso wouldn't work
[03:18] <Genitrust> makes complete sense now... thanks guy ... i need sleep -.-
[03:19] <Genitrust> i guess i could just do this with the debian disc... hmm...
[03:20] <Artemis3> Genitrust, dd works with hybrid iso images, currently debian also works
[03:20] <Genitrust> sweeet
[03:20] <Artemis3> Genitrust, you can also use unetbootin o multisystem
[03:21] <Genitrust> Artemis3, ok now an interesting question...
[03:21] <Genitrust> well, what's unetbootin ? is it a bios thing?
[03:22] <Artemis3> its an app to put linux isos to usb sticks
[03:22] <Genitrust> right now i'm contemplating resizing the partition on my USB disk, and creating a new partition that's 512MB, and then booting from that partition. but then again, i know know how to select which partition i want to be bootable :(
[03:22] <Genitrust> i'm using gparted at the moment
[03:23] <Artemis3> there is a boot flag you can set
[03:23] <Genitrust> ...in gparted?
[03:23] <Artemis3> yes
[03:23] <Genitrust> oooh i see
[03:24] <Genitrust> not sure how to change it to boot tho
[03:24] <Genitrust> ah i see
[03:24] <Genitrust> thanks Artemis3 :)
[03:24] <Genitrust> gparted is pretty sweet
[03:25] <leelondon> hi guys
[03:25] <leelondon> how are you all
[03:26] <leelondon> I'm installed mame in ubuntu
[03:26] <leelondon> mamedev.org
[03:27] <leelondon> i am having a still issue with mame
[03:28] <cfhowlett> leelondon, use the mame support channel and options.  this is ubuntu support and mame ain't ubuntu.
[03:29] <sudormrf> hey guys!  does anyone know of any way to get RSS working with transmission?
[03:29] <leelondon> ok
[03:29] <leelondon> left the room guys
[03:29] <leelondon> bye
[03:30] <Xtremeasure> sudormrf: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1583064
[03:30] <sudormrf> Xtremeasure: flexget didn’t work for me
[03:31] <sudormrf> Xtremeasure: I set it up as described on that site, had my config verified in the flexget channel, but in the end it didn’t grab anything
[03:33] <sudormrf> Xtremeasure: It never did look like the program was “running”
[03:33] <sudormrf> I don’t know how that was supposed to happen
[03:34] <Xtremeasure> i cant try this out myself until my dist upgrade finishes
[03:34] <Xtremeasure> so we are going to have to wait for someone else to chime in haha
[03:34] <sudormrf> lol
[03:34] <Xtremeasure> yeah my applications menu is blank atm
[03:35] <Xtremeasure> or id be going through the steps myself to try to see where things werent working
[03:36] <sudormrf> Xtremeasure: something to note, that post is from 2010 (I had looked at it when I set it up originally), you don’t need to use cron anymore
[03:36] <keonjeo> hello
[03:37] <Xtremeasure> i saw, this upgrade shouldnt to to much longer now
[03:37] <Genitrust> damn, my partition was 504MB, and when i did dd, i wrote 509MB to disk... lol
[03:37] <Xtremeasure> if your still around and no one else can help ill run through everything myself and see wflewget not working for transmissionppenshat ha
[03:37] <Xtremeasure> lol wtf
[03:37] <keonjeo> 12323
[03:38] <cfhowlett> keonjeo, what is your ubuntu question?
[03:38] <keonjeo> I don't know how to use the chat application ?
[03:39] <cfhowlett> keonjeo, and yet you ARE using it ...
[03:39] <Xtremeasure> ! LOL
[03:39] <keonjeo> ha
[03:39] <Xtremeasure> i facepalmed
[03:39] <keonjeo> right now ?
[03:39] <Xtremeasure> which application
[03:40] <cfhowlett> keonjeo, yes, right now, otherwise we wouldn't be having this digital discussion
[03:40] <Xtremeasure> ^
[03:40] <keonjeo> the chat application in the system
[03:40] <Xtremeasure> empathy?
[03:40] <sudormrf> Xtremeasure: haha ok
[03:40] <sudormrf> :D
[03:40] <sudormrf> I am reinstalling it
[03:40] <cfhowlett> keonjeo, what exactly do you want to do with your chat application???
[03:41] <Xtremeasure> ok sudormrf sorry i cant help much more right now haha
[03:42] <keonjeo> how can i find my friend in the Xchat
[03:42] <keonjeo> who can tell me
[03:43] <tristan_> ubuntu español??
[03:43] <Xtremeasure> xchat is an irc client is your friend a member of a specific server?
[03:43] <cfhowlett> !es|Tristam,
[03:43] <sudormrf> Xtremeasure: no worries :)
[03:43] <Guest77664> gracias
[03:43] <Guest77664> #ubuntu-es
[03:43] <cfhowlett> Guest77664, /join #ubuntu-es
[03:44] <Beldar> keonjeo, contact them and ask what channel and nick they use on what irc network.
[03:44] <Guest77664> hola, alguien ha configurado la tarketa "Usb Kworld Plus TV"??
[03:44] <keonjeo> o . i see
[03:44] <keonjeo> ths
[03:44] <cfhowlett> Guest77664, !!![03:44] <keonjeo> tks
[03:45] <sardior> Ekiga error Could not register (Globally not acceptable)  I've gone through the forums and found nothing that could fix this error.
[03:46] <ubunter> Any one have PXE boot experience using Ubuntu server?
[03:46] <cfhowlett> sardior, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ekiga
[03:46] <cfhowlett> ubunter, if not here, ask in #ubuntu-server
[03:47] <ubunter> ok thank you
[03:47] <sardior> I've been through that one. I'll look again
[03:51] <ubunter_> Any one have experience PXE booting with Ubuntu server?
[03:51] <ole__> where can i get help for programming in ubuntu ?
[03:52] <ubunter_> youtube
[03:52] <cfhowlett> ole__, #python
[03:52] <ole__> i can make some small c programmes in my terminal
[03:52] <ubunter_>  Any one have experience PXE booting with Ubuntu server?
[03:52] <Beldar> !anyone|ubunter_
[03:53] <ubunter_> Beldar do you have experience PXE booting?
[03:53] <Beldar> ubunter_, Getting help here is based on your statement of the issues, to the channel.
[03:53] <ole__> cfhowlett thanks but then i shal learn python
[03:53] <handsome> oh
[03:53] <Beldar> not asking the "anyone" question
[03:54] <handsome> why？
[03:54] <ubunter_> After completing Ubuntu installation through PXE booting, the client has no internet access, what would cause that issue?
[03:54] <cfhowlett> ole__, there are hundreds of "c" programming resources.  choose one
[03:55] <Xtremeasure> ubunter: how are you trying to connect to the network
[03:55] <ole__> cfhowlett yes but not in graphic statement thanks
[03:55] <ubunter_> It's connected using ethernet port to my router.
[03:56] <sudormrf> Xtremeasure: working now.  not sure why it didn’t in the first place :)D
[03:56] <geomyidae_> I have two identical monitors. Windows uses the exact same configuration for both: 2560x1440 @ 60hz. One over HDMI, one over displayport.
[03:56] <geomyidae_> But in Linux, nvidia only allows me to output 1080p over HDMI. How can I force modeline for ONLY the second monitor, and make it be the same modeline it uses for the DisplayPort?
[03:56] <Xtremeasure> sudormrf: sometimes things happen that way ;) its all good glad you figured it out
[03:56] <sudormrf> haha yeah :D
[03:57] <ubunter_> I have worked on this issue for weeks, I have used PXEdust, FOG and still same result.
[03:58] <ubunter_> I thought I needed my PXE boot server to be configured to a DNS server and I did that but still same result as well.
[03:58] <Xtremeasure> ubunter_: hmmm
[03:58] <jrry> ho
[03:58] <jrry> hi
[03:59] <cfhowlett> jrry, what is your ubuntu question?
[03:59] <jrry> is there anyone how can help me with jackd
[04:00] <cfhowlett> jrry, ask in #ubuntustudio or #opensourcemusicans
[04:00] <jrry> I am running ubuntu studio and lexicon alphia
[04:01] <bazhang> try #jack jrry
[04:01] <jrry> new to this
[04:01] <sudormrf> is it safe to delete something from the /run/ directory?
[04:02] <ubunter_> Ok so here's the steps I took. 1. Configured DHCP server 2. Install tftpd-hpa inetutils-inetd 3. Made Configurations for those tools 4. Download Ubuntu 12.04 ISO 5.Extracted and put proper files into proper directories. 6 PXE boot and installed Ubuntu 7.No internet access after installation is complete
[04:02] <Stanley00> sudormrf: no. why do you want to do that?
[04:03] <sudormrf> Stanley00: even if said item doesn’t exist on the system anymore?
[04:03] <ubunter_> Where could I have gone wrong in the steps?
[04:03] <Stanley00> sudormrf: can you give an example?
[04:04] <sudormrf> Stanley00: sure.  Installed program from github.  realized program didn’t work how I wanted.  removed most traces of it.  found an empty folder for it in the /run/ directory
[04:05] <Stanley00> sudormrf: mostly, /run is tmpfs, and will be cleaned when reboot. So basically, you don't need to clean it up manually.
[04:05] <jrry> can some help me with jackd
[04:05] <sudormrf> Stanley00: ah.  ok :)
[04:05] <bazhang> jrry, ask in #jack
[04:06] <sudormrf> Stanley00: out of curiosity, are you aware of a way to cleanly remove things installed from github?
[04:06] <sudormrf> something like git remove or something
[04:06] <cfhowlett> !git
[04:07] <kyi> good night
[04:07] <sudormrf> cfhowlett: first of all, link is bad because closing parenthesis is not part of the link.  second of all, that doesn’t answer the question.  but either way, I manually removed the program :).
[04:08] <sudormrf> was just curious if there was a more elegant way to remove things cloned from git
[04:08] <Stanley00> sudormrf: well, I mostly used package from repos. If I need to install from source, I'll look at its makefile. And about the *runtime generate files*, and user config files, there no way I can clean it.
[04:09] <sudormrf> Stanley00: ic.  yeah, was just hoping there was some sort of uninstaller I was overlooking.  didn’t see anything in the man page for git.
[04:11] <Stanley00> sudormrf: actually, git is just a version control, it CANNOT install or uninstall software. You just can get source from git, build, and install. And the install/uninstall job is done by the author of the source.
[04:12] <sudormrf> Stanley00: gotcha
[04:12] <sudormrf> thanks again :)
[04:22] <jerry__> hi
[04:43] <fhassan> Can I undelete all contents of an ext4 parition. I did 'select all' and 'shift-delete' through nautilius but never overwrote anything on it.
[04:44] <Guest90297> any body can help me to configure mY "USB KWORLD PLUS TV"?
[04:44] <cfhowlett> !undelete
[04:45] <p014k> Is it possible to have a terminal window open by default in every workspace? Could be on startup rather than on-switching to a new workspace, although this would be a preferred method.
[04:47] <Guest90297> anybody know about UBS KWORLD PLUS TV?
[04:47] <cfhowlett> !anyone|Guest90297,
[04:47] <Guest90297> sorry, thanks
[04:48] <Guest90297> anyone know about UBS KWORLD PLUS TV?
[04:48] <cfhowlett> !patience|Guest90297,
[04:49] <Guest90297> thanks, just wanted to correct my question
[04:50] <dhaval2712> How do you set the default runlevel?
[04:51] <Beldar> Guest90297, you don't question, you state the issue for help.
[04:51] <Guest90297> ;)
[04:52] <bazhang> !hcl | Guest90297
[04:52] <Beldar> I know it seems logical to ask thoughh. ;)
[04:52] <cfhowlett> Guest90297 > http://www.ubuntuask.com/q/answers-can-anybody-help-me-to-make-kworld-ub445-q-tv-tuner-work-58547.html
[04:53] <Guest90297> let me see
[04:57] <Guest90297> my usb its detecting as /dev/video1, but its not sending signal in tvtime
[04:58] <CarlFK> p014k: you might not care ... did you know ctrl alt T opens a terminal?
[04:59] <CarlFK> I used to make sure I had short cuts to launch a term until I found that
[04:59] <Guest90297> before someone had helped me set it up perfectly, but I could not save pordesgracia that information
[04:59] <Guest90297> but unfortunately
[04:59] <snufft> does anyone know what the grep command is to just search the files in the current directory? ie, not all subdirectories?
[05:00] <vanishing> ls | grep?
[05:02] <snufft> actually, just found it. grep 'text here' *
[05:05] <p014k> CarlFK: Yes, but it'd be nice to able to have it open by default.
[05:09] <black_lapras> pikapika
[05:09] <black_lapras> Pokemon on Google Maps :D
[05:10] <cfhowlett> black_lapras, ask your ubuntu support question?
[05:13] <black_lapras> I am running Xubuntu in Virtual Box, but my internet speed is less than what I receive in Windows machine. After googling, I tried various permutations of network adapters in the VM settings. I get a max of 30KBps when I easily get 80KBps on the normal machine.
[05:13] <black_lapras> Help
[05:23] <JCM83> how do I set the keyboard shortcut for "up one level" in Nautilus? Like to use backspace to go up?
[05:23] <bobfox> mmm, interesting idea.
[05:24] <bobfox> nothing in nautilus preferences?
[05:24] <JCM83> It used to be backspace now it's alt+up
[05:24] <chillibite> is there a free email providor that has smtp and imap plus only uses free software?
[05:25] <bobfox> gmail
[05:26] <JCM83> https://www.linuxdistrocommunity.com/videos/?user=quidsup&id=2Birudyo3fs
[05:26] <JCM83> bobfox https://www.linuxdistrocommunity.com/videos/?user=quidsup&id=2Birudyo3fs
[05:26] <bobfox> i have no idea what those links are. therefore, i will not click them.
[05:26] <mrgoodcat> chillibite: could host your own. you're going to have a rough time finding an email provider like that
[05:26] <bobfox> sorry. security paranoia.
[05:26] <mrgoodcat> bobfox: it's about changing the keyboard shortcuts in nautilus
[05:27] <JCM83> bobfox it's a tutorial that walked me through it
[05:27] <JCM83> there's another one for changing the keyboard shortcuts in gedit too
[05:27] <goose00014000> Does anyone have any Note/Journal/To-Do List sort of programs they can recommend that can store the data locally rather than in the "cloud" (ie Evernote) and that is both compatible with Linux and Windows?
[05:27] <bobfox> np
[05:27] <JCM83> ohhhh bobfox these are all in ~/.config/APPNAME/accels
[05:28] <bobfox> ok. do not use nautilus myself. all console stuff here.
[05:28] <bobfox> i use mc.
[05:28] <JCM83> Man how do you do that?
[05:28] <JCM83> I really rely on the GUI to give me a sense of the structure of the system, I can't imagine working all by console.
[05:28] <JCM83> Do you have to like do meditations or something to get your head there?
[05:29] <mrgoodcat> goose00014000: what sort of features are you looking for?
[05:29] <bobfox> head is in there when i wake up in the morning.
[05:29] <bobfox> never leaves.
[05:29] <mrgoodcat> cloud is  a big part of the advantages programs like that have. otherwise they can be replaced with vim and files
[05:29] <JCM83> Jesus that's like a samurai thing man
[05:29] <JCM83> I am like totally not that dedicated to linux
[05:30] <Beldar> !ot | JCM83 bobfox
[05:30] <JCM83> Beldar sorry, what'd I do wrong?
[05:30] <bobfox> no idea man.
[05:30] <bobfox> hitler joined i think.
[05:31] <cfhowlett> JCM83, bobfox if we can keep the discussion on ubuntu support, please.  that IS the channel topic.
[05:31] <mrgoodcat> JCM83: i think the outburst was not appreciated by beldar
[05:31] <bobfox> oh right, moving on then.
[05:31] <JCM83> I see, even though it seemed relevant to me because I was excited about bobfox's level of mastery, it was off topic. I apologize.
[05:32] <bobfox> everything seems off topic in here.
[05:32] <bobfox> <rolls eyes> anyway, not to dwell on it.
[05:32] <JCM83> It's off topic if you are not actively nerding in an ubuntu *project*.
[05:33] <SonikkuAmerica> ./nerding.sh
[05:34] <JCM83> What is signified by "kubuntu" "lubuntu" "xubuntu"?
[05:34] <cfhowlett> !flavors|JCM83,
[05:34] <mrgoodcat> kde, lxde, xfce
[05:34] <dhruvasagar> Hey when I full-screen my terminal there is some space left over like here - http://i.imgur.com/DfdRHp7.png
[05:34] <dhruvasagar> how can I fix that ?
[05:35] <mrgoodcat> dhruvasagar: you mean at the bottom?
[05:35] <dhruvasagar> mrgoodcat: yes
[05:35] <bobfox> press F11
[05:35] <mrgoodcat> thats because your terminal font size doesn't evenly divide into the # of vertical pixels
[05:35] <mrgoodcat> there isn't enough room for another row of text
[05:36] <dhruvasagar> mrgoodcat: wow, hmm
[05:36] <dhruvasagar> mrgoodcat: so I should play around with font-size?
[05:36] <mrgoodcat> you could play with your font size to add another row, or just leave it
[05:36] <mrgoodcat> it happens on my screen too
[05:36] <dhruvasagar> mrgoodcat: thanks!
[05:36] <JCM83> dhruvasagar how do you do that?
[05:37] <dhruvasagar> JCM83: do what ?
[05:37] <JCM83> dhruvasagar manipulate the font size in terminal
[05:37] <bobfox> JCM83: you honestly never use your terminal?
[05:38] <dhruvasagar> JCM83: terminal settings, or I could even go change font size system wide
[05:39] <mrgoodcat> JCM83: it depends on what terminal emulator you use
[05:39] <JCM83> bobfox dude not if I can help it.
[05:40] <mrgoodcat> JCM83: that's too bad. the terminal has a lot of useful tools that the gui sometimes can't match
[05:40] <JCM83> dhruvasager how would you do that? I can't find "settings" in my terminal.
[05:40] <SonikkuAmerica> But in Linux the terminal is a Thing®!
[05:40] <dhruvasagar> mrgoodcat: s/can't/never
[05:40] <JCM83> mrgoodcat yeah I can tell I'm just overwhelmed by what I experience as the counter-intuitiveness of the commands.
[05:41] <Simotek-Work> we should be encoraging people that they don't need to use the terminal if they don't want
[05:41] <Simotek-Work> why should your average user need the terminal?
[05:41] <mrgoodcat> JCM83: linuxcommand.org
[05:41] <bobfox> JCM83: terminal console usage and remembering the commands comes with experience too. and bash completion helps too!
[05:41] <JCM83> what's bash completion?
[05:42] <bobfox> Simotek-Work: what the definition of average?
[05:42] <mrgoodcat> i agree with Simotek-Work. most average users won't want to use the terminal
[05:42] <bobfox> JCM83: bash completion completes the rest of the terminal command for you.
[05:42] <meonkeys> what does "Hardware" mean in "Hardware and maintenance updates" on http://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life ?
[05:42] <mrgoodcat> if the gui tools can be improved to the point where cli isn't neccesary that would be great
[05:43] <ksuhku> "Unless you have opted out we will send your keystrokes to third parties including: Facebook, Twitter, BBC and Amazon." -- http://www.ubuntu.com/privacy-policy   For the whole list of third parties, see http://www.ubuntu.com/privacy-policy/third-parties
[05:43] <bobfox> type "mkdi" and press TAB and it will enter the rest of the command for you, as "mkdir".
[05:43] <Simotek-Work> bobfox take all the people in the world that use computers if you rank them in technical competence from 1 to 100 any user who is ranked between 30 and 70 is average
[05:43] <bobfox> that is bash completion.
[05:43] <ussher_> I have my local server which had ubuntu-server on it.  Then I installed media-buntu onto it.  now the default boot up is media-ubuntu.  How do I get the server to be the default. (been trying messing with update-grub but not succeeding)
[05:43] <bobfox> most shells have it.
[05:43] <dhruvasagar> meonkeys: it means they will stop supporting older hardware (for drivers etc)
[05:43] <bobfox> Simotek-Work: not convinced. but will give it to you.
[05:44] <meonkeys> dhruvasagar: ah, so they'll still do software security fixes (for instance), but if something is failing because the hardware is too old, that might be too bad.
[05:44] <dhruvasagar> meonkeys: those would be part of 'maintenance updates'
[05:44] <meonkeys> k. makes sense, thanks
[05:44] <Beldar> ussher_, Boot to the servers command line and run sudo grub-install /dev/sdX   X is the HD no partitions
[05:45] <ksuhku> https://fixubuntu.com/
[05:45] <ussher_> thanks Beldar, trying now.
[05:45] <cfhowlett> !ops|ksuhku,
[05:45] <Beldar> ussher_, Thne run sudo grub-update
[05:46] <Beldar> ussher_, sorry sudo update-grub
[05:46] <meonkeys> https://fixubuntu.com/ <-- nice!
[05:46] <ksuhku> yeah
[05:46] <bobfox> Beldar: common error.
[05:46] <elky> ksuhku: this is a channel for technical assistance, not political stunts.
[05:46] <ksuhku> elky, consider that a public service announcement
[05:46] <Flannel> ksuhku: It's generally frowned upon to come into a channel and spam links, however partially topical they may be.
[05:47] <Flannel> ksuhku: This is a support channel, not an announcement channel.  If you'd like to have a discussion about ubuntu, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[05:47] <ussher_> fantastic. worked a charm Beldar
[05:48] <Beldar> ussher_, Cool, now you know the secret. ;)
[05:48] <bobfox> elky: wow, you're still around. lol
[05:48] <somsip> ksuhku: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/03/ubuntu-make-amazon-product-results-opt-unity
[05:48] <ksuhku> somsip, thanks, I know of that promise, we'll see how it goes
[05:48] <ussher_> much appreciated.  psu blew up this morning. so its a fixing day today.
[05:49] <somsip> ksuhku: so, time to stop with the repeateded whinging in here then
[05:49] <Beldar> hard to argue the truth to someone who just spams the channel with fud, don't waste your time
[05:49] <JCM83> bobfox Bash completion doesn't appear to be running on my terminal console? I didn't even know there *were* multiple options for a terminal console.
[05:49] <ksuhku> somsip, I think it's time to stop then Canonical has made it opt in, no sooner
[05:50] <bobfox> JCM83: sudo apt-get install bash-completion
[05:50] <Beldar> They are well into the nick banning area at the least
[05:51] <bobfox> JCM83: there are hundreds of different shell syntaxs.
[05:51] <bobfox> bash most common.
[05:51] <scarrz> greetz... just testing out the new lts final beta can anyone tell me how to get rid of the funky panel behaviour in gnome-session-fallback (compiz) ... it tkaes forever to load and the panel disappears when I try to shange workspaces
[05:51] <scarrz> my bad typos
[05:51] <cfhowlett> scarrz, support for 14.04 = #ubuntu+1
[05:52] <scarrz> oops sorry
[05:58] <JCM83> bobfox "already the newest version"
[05:58] <JCM83> so I guess I'm just not knowing how to turn it on?
[06:00] <bobfox> JCM83: then you should have bash completion. tbh, i have never heard of it 'not working'. EVER!
[06:00] <bobfox> you could try this: rm ~/.bashrc
[06:01] <bobfox> and retry it.
[06:01] <CryptoSiD> hi, im seeking for a way to monitor a command, everytime that command is used, id like to get mailed
[06:01] <CryptoSiD> whatsthe best method to do this
[06:02] <bobfox> CryptoSiD: what command you want to monitor?
[06:02] <CryptoSiD> *coind sendtoaddress
[06:02] <CryptoSiD> so in fact everytime *sendtoaddress* is used, in bash
[06:02] <CryptoSiD> id like to get mailed
[06:03] <CryptoSiD> with the entire command, so wallet name + amount at end
[06:03] <CryptoSiD> and also sendmany
[06:03] <bobfox> not too sure what you're trying to achieve with that actually.
[06:03] <CryptoSiD> is it important?
[06:04] <bobfox> might have to write a script for that.
[06:04] <CryptoSiD> yeah i guess but i dont code:D
[06:04] <bobfox> to give you a correct answer, then yes.
[06:04] <bobfox> it is important.
[06:04] <xar-> more bitcoin fluff presumably, totally unsupported here.
[06:04] <CryptoSiD> i want to know everytime someone use the sendtoaddress command
[06:04] <Simotek-Work> you could hack up something using the sendmail command
[06:04] <CryptoSiD> whatever the coind is
[06:04] <CryptoSiD> bitcoind litecoind mazacoind
[06:04] <CryptoSiD> whatever
[06:04] <bobfox> nothing interests me here.
[06:05] <bobfox> as soon as you mention bitcoin, i am out.
[06:05] <xar-> indeed, try #ubuntu-offtopic perhaps CryptoSiD
[06:05] <CryptoSiD> ok thx
[06:06] <xar-> an army of people wasting electricity crunching pointless numbers, gotta love it ha
[06:07] <starhunter> dpkg: error processing mysql-server (--configure):  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured No apport report written because the error message indicates its a followup error from a previous failure.                           Errors were encountered while processing:  mysql-server-5.5  mysql-server E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:07] <starhunter> some 1 help me fixing the mysql prob
[06:08] <bobfox> another process in running, by the looks.
[06:08] <bobfox> dpkg in use already.
[06:09] <starhunter> wat do i do then
[06:10] <bobfox> have you tried "sudo apt-get install -f
[06:10] <bobfox> "
[06:10] <starhunter> no
[06:10] <JCM83> bobfox okay how do I use bash completion?
[06:11] <bobfox> JCM83: bash completion completes the rest of the terminal command for you.
[06:11] <bobfox> type "mkdi" and press TAB and it will enter the rest of the command for you, as "mkdir".
[06:11] <bobfox> or any other command.
[06:12] <bobfox> type "apt-" and then press TAB twice. it should present the apt- options for use in the terminal.
[06:12] <starhunter> result of 'install -f';Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 655 not upgraded.
[06:12] <bobfox> starhunter: so do that.
[06:12] <JCM83> bobfox did you know that that did not come mentioned on my ubuntu manual
[06:13] <JCM83> because I am not using an ubuntu manual and in fact I downloaded it on the internet and had to look up what "ubuntu" means
[06:13] <starhunter> i did it says: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 655 not upgraded.
[06:13] <bobfox> now try the installa again.
[06:13] <bobfox> JCM83: what manual?
[06:17] <JCM83> bobfox yeah that's my point
[06:22] <bazhang> !manual
[06:23] <JCM83> I'm trying to save a configuration change in gedit's "accels" file and gedit (which I'm using to edit it) says I don't have permission to save that. Is this because I have that file open?
[06:24] <dev_lup> Did you try to edit in sudo mode?
[06:25] <mrgoodcat> No. Linux doesn't lock files the same way windows does
[06:26] <JCM83> dev_lup I don't know how to do that, I only know how to get into sudo mode with the terminal.
[06:26] <JCM83> dev_lup how do I edit in sudo mode with gedit?
[06:26] <dev_lup> yeah. so go to the folder where the file you want to edit is, via terminal
[06:27] <cfhowlett> JCM83, sudo gedit ...
[06:27] <dev_lup> and then type sudo gedit <filename>
[06:27] <JCM83> cfhowlett if I do that I can't figure out how to find the .config for my own normal user's home.
[06:28] <cfhowlett> JCM83, use file manager to see the file.  drag and drop to the the filename to terminal
[06:28] <JCM83> cfhowlett file manager? Nautilus?
[06:29] <cfhowlett> JCM83, yes
[06:29] <JCM83> jesus christ that actually worked
[06:29] <cfhowlett> JCM83, you'll to specify the save location
[06:31] <JCM83> Yeah I copy-pasted my custom accels file from a gedit that was me to a gedit that was sudo and then I saved it as sudo
[06:31] <JCM83> this is voodoo
[06:31] <cfhowlett> JCM83, I actually checked yesterday ; no such command as "voodoo"
[06:32] <JCM83> "voudoun" is in a french repository I use
[06:41] <JCM83> Anyone recommend an ubuntu app for tweaking system audio playback?
[06:42] <toZen> JCM83: what kind of tweaking do you after?
[06:43] <JCM83> toZen I want to apply some algorithms to the overall playback ranges. Particularly I want to auto-balance when playback is hot.
[06:43] <SpaceRat> Hi!
[06:44] <SpaceRat> Can anyone help to write this in a way that bash understands it? -> for TOOLCHAIN in ${${ZIEL}}; do
[06:45] <JCM83> "alsamixer"
[06:45] <q0> whats ZIEL
[06:45] <helmut_> hi
[06:47] <SpaceRat> q0: ZIEL is a variable containing the values "router" and "settop" -> ZIEL="router settop"
[06:48] <SpaceRat> q0: then there are variables router and settop containing a list of toolchains being either for routers or for settop-boxes ..., e.g. router="fritz72xx fritz73xxOS60"
[06:49] <SpaceRat> q0: so obviously I expect TOOLCHAIN to loop through "fritz72xx fritz73xxOS60"
[06:49] <SpaceRat> q0: rather than through "router settop"
[07:05] <demoz> hello,im having problem with BIND server,it resolve domains really slow http://paste.ubuntu.com/7188496/ can anyone help me out ?
[07:05] <tiblock> Hi. Where i can see list of shortcuts like "tailf" for "tail -f" and "ll" for "ls -l"?
[07:06] <somsip> tiblock: type 'alias' in a terminal
[07:06] <demoz> tiblock .bashrc in your home
[07:07] <tiblock> somsip, demoz, thank you. No "tailf" but "ll" there. Thank you.
[07:07]  * haxin takes his .bashrc everywhere with him
[07:07]  * demoz hate BIND,it is so slow on lookups :(
[07:08] <haxin> i hate when im on a differnt install and im used to my own and dont hav it
[07:09] <demoz> haxin i wonder what custom aliases you are using :)
[07:10] <haxin> lol oooh dirty aliases its all lolcat format and pr0n words
[07:10] <pirateserb> Hello! What is the kernel version in Ubuntu 14.04 at the moment?
[07:10] <haxin> lol shit theres an ubuntu 14aklready
[07:10] <haxin> ive been away too long
[07:10] <haxin> ha
[07:10] <IdleOne> haxin: Please keep the language clean in here
[07:10] <haxin> shit i dont even know what ium on now
[07:10] <haxin> uname -a
[07:10] <haxin> fuck]
[07:10] <haxin> wrong teminal
[07:11] <SwedeMike> pirateserb: 3.13
[07:12] <pirateserb> SwedeMike, 3.13.0-19?
[07:12] <SwedeMike> pirateserb: +20
[07:12] <SwedeMike> pirateserb: -20
[07:12] <Haix64> hi. is upstart gonna be replaced by systemd in 14.04?
[07:13] <pirateserb> SwedeMike, thanks
[07:19] <ubuNoob> hi guys I tried to install ubuntu but couldn't see "free space" when i choose "something else" option. All i see was http://i57.tinypic.com/11uyo9u.jpg  and i did shrink 89GB of memory for ubuntu as shown on alot of the youtube tutorials i have watched. Please anyone have any idea why i cant see "free space"
[07:19] <elyolo> speak spanish?
[07:20] <Farioko> What was the utility for streaming Windows applications to Linux? :-)
[07:21] <Beldar> ubuNoob, What windows version is there?
[07:21] <Beldar> ubuNoob, Can you in the terminal run sudo parted -l and pastbin it.
[07:22] <ubuNoob> Beldar windows 7. All in one packbell. I have C drive and D drive. Also when I did crtl + Alt + T i couldnt get the command line to pop up
[07:23] <Beldar> ubuNoob, "i couldnt get the command line to pop up" what dies that mean?
[07:23] <Beldar> does*
[07:24] <bazhang> gnome-terminal I think he means
[07:24] <bazhang> ctrl alt T
[07:24] <ubuNoob> Beldar it means i can't run sudo parted -l because i dont have commandline because i am still in the installation process
[07:25] <Beldar> ubuNoob, not much I can do then, if you have a install going, hope that is gpt, as you have 4 primary partitions.
[07:26] <ubuNoob> Beldar how can I reduce it to 3 so i can get the "free space" option? Please guide me
[07:27] <Beldar> ubuNoob, I don't know at this point what the HD is gpt or msdos so I'm hesitant to advise without that info.
[07:28] <Beldar> 1 mb partition makes me think gpt, normally that sda1 would be about 200mb
[07:28] <Beldar> if msdos
[07:29] <curiousx> hello there
[07:29] <Beldar> ubuNoob, Did you replace W8 with W7?
[07:29] <Chuck_Norris> mmm...
[07:30] <andromeduck> Hi, I'm having an issue with OpenGL - nvidia something?
[07:30] <andromeduck> XFCE won't boot a
[07:30] <andromeduck> and I don't quite understand the /var/logs
[07:30] <ubuNoob> Beldar nope i got my all in one packard bell pc about 3 years ago before I started university and Windows 8 wasn't out at the time if I can recall.
[07:30] <andromeduck> hoping someone could help
[07:31] <Chuck_Norris> anyone knows a command line to switch between my sound cards?
[07:32] <ubuNoob> Beldar also does it count my USB stick as a primary partition? as I can see it does when on the partition screen
[07:33] <Beldar> ubuNoob, the usb would be sdb I see only sda
[07:33] <Beldar> ubuNoob, Have you imaged/cloned the W7, or have good backups and a install media?
[07:33] <Chuck_Norris> i using openbox, and...  i don't have any GUI program for that, to switch between sound card y gotta log out and log in to Unity or Cinnamon session -.-
[07:35] <andromeduck> Chuck_Norris, alsamixer?
[07:36] <ubuNoob> Beldar I have done a backup of the windows. my D drive is where my backup is stored
[07:36] <Chuck_Norris> andromeduck,  didn't work alsamixer
[07:36] <andromeduck> um pulseaudio also has a terminal one
[07:36] <andromeduck> could try that
[07:36] <Chuck_Norris> with alsamixer you can switch between sound card but you can only configure them, not switch on the fly
[07:37] <Beldar> ubuNoob, C and D are not drives here, they are partitions, nor do the letters mean anything we use the partitions info.
[07:38] <Chuck_Norris> yeah, i saw a little abount pulse audio, but i didn't find a command line on internet, that's why i am here, maybe some of you guys had the same issue as me :p
[07:38] <Chuck_Norris> pulseaudio command line interface*
[07:39] <Beldar> ubuNoob, If that is a msdos drive and you added more than 4 primaries by trying to install, it is now dynamic, ubuntu wont run in a dynamic setup.
[07:44] <ubuNoob> Beldar but thats not the right way to install ubuntu
[07:44] <Beldar> ubuNoob, ?
[07:44] <Beldar> whats not
[07:44] <ubuNoob> Beldar any ideas how to find the other 2 partitions?
[07:45] <axsuul> Anyone know of a script that I can use that returns diskspace usage, ram usage, etc?
[07:45] <Beldar> ubuNoob, We see them in your image, the command I gave you would give details needed.
[07:45] <ubuNoob> Beldar i mean on the windows side seens i cant run commands on ubuntu because i dont have it install
[07:46] <jm123> @ubunoob: Do you have a live disk?
[07:46] <Beldar> ubuNoob, Hmm, very conflicting info, you said you were installing.
[07:47] <Beldar> ubuNoob, Is this a wubi install?
[07:47] <ubuNoob> Beldar you see http://i57.tinypic.com/11uyo9u.jpg that is my screen
[07:47] <ubuNoob> Beldar what is a wubi install?
[07:48] <Beldar> ubuNoob, right and that would be from a live cd/usb install.
[07:48] <Beldar> !wubi
[07:48] <Beldar> ubuNoob, ^^^^^^^^^^
[07:48] <ubuNoob> Beldar yes am using a usb. I will tell you what i did maybe it might help
[07:49] <Beldar> ubuNoob, I doubt it, I can't seem to get the info I need anyway, others here are going to be better in communicating with you, more patient anyway. ;)
[07:49] <jm123> @ubunoob you can reboot, choose "try ubuntu" instead of install.
[07:50] <jm123> Then run the commands that Beldar gave you so that he can help you.
[07:50] <jm123> Otherwise you're going to be way lost in the sauce, man.
[07:50] <Beldar> jm123, Fir the record this user has 4 primary partittions.
[07:50] <ubuNoob> Beldar when i first started i choose "install ubuntu inside windows 7" this option caused my pc to restart and i did it twice. After that i was told to try the "something else" option but i couldn't find "free space" do you think because i choose "install inside windows 7" this might have create 2 partitions?
[07:53] <Beldar> ubuNoob, What exactly led you to this "install ubuntu inside windows 7" info, it would only see possible with a wubi, a ubuntu install from windows.
[07:53] <jm123> Beldar: I think he might mean beside not inside.
[07:53] <jm123> Ubunoob: please clarify this.
[07:54] <jm123> Because as far as I know. there is no "install inside" from the live cd. That's what wubi is for.
[07:54] <Beldar> jm123, it has been that way through the who;e help process, I can't help, and have to double guess, is all.
[07:54] <Beldar> whole*
[07:55] <Beldar> ubuNoob, I'm not going to be able to help you others will.
[07:55] <jm123> Beldar, I can see that.
[07:55] <jm123> so ubunoob, what type of pc are you trying to install linux on.
[07:59] <ubuNoob> jm123 and Beldar (1) when you click on install you are giving 3 options normally it is 1) install ALONG SIDE windows by in my case it was "install inside windows"  (2) replace windows 7 with ubuntu (3) something else.                  I didnt ready carefully when i clicked on "install INSIDE windows and i did this twice.
[08:00] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:00] <cristian_c> I've typed sudo fsck.msdos -aw /dev/sdc1
[08:00] <jm123> what model pc are you using, ubunoob?
[08:00] <cristian_c> now I can mount the micro-sd card, but folders and files are empty and have got strange names
[08:01] <cristian_c> what can I do?
[08:01] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[08:01] <ubuNoob> jm123 it is a Packard bell all in one pc LA6524 UK
[08:04] <jm123> okay, it's not a uefi based system which makes things easier. are you trying to keep your install of windows?
[08:05] <toZen> cristian_c: what for you've decided to use fsck?
[08:05] <cristian_c> toZen, to mount the microsd
[08:07] <toZen> cristian_c: fsck is for checking file system. to mount smth have to use mount oprtion.
[08:07] <toZen> *option
[08:07] <ubuNoob> jm123 windows will be for my kids useage while ubuntu will be for my own use
[08:07] <htlove> hello
[08:08] <htlove> i'm newmenber ubuntu
[08:08] <htlove> i need anyone help to use effec
[08:08] <toZen> htlove: so?
[08:09] <Beldar> htlove, Is english your native language?
[08:09] <htlove> yes
[08:09] <cristian_c> toZen, I was told here to use fsck
[08:10] <jm123> ubunoob, are you still able to boot into win7?
[08:10] <toZen> Beldar: it's doesn't matter if person ableto explane issues, pal
[08:10] <cristian_c> toZen, I got some errors in dmesg
[08:10] <cristian_c> now not anymore
[08:10] <Beldar> htlove, Cool, than can you clearly say in a sentence what you need help with.
[08:10] <cristian_c> after this command
[08:11] <Beldar> toZen, And answering with so is what.
[08:12] <cristian_c> toZen, now it's mounted, but I don't know because I see folder and files empty
[08:12] <brontosaurusrex> what is that right side of keyboard called in ingluoso? numerical-side or what is the exact name?
[08:12] <toZen> cristian_c: pastebin <mount> and <lsusb>
[08:13] <jm123> bronto: you mean the number pad?
[08:13] <ubuNoob> jm123 yes
[08:13] <brontosaurusrex> jm123, is that the official name?
[08:13] <Garo_> I'm running ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS and I have a problem that something re-sets an lvm device read-ahead to 4096 sectors (2 megabytes) even if I set it manually with blockdev --setra 32 /dev/dm-2. This reset happens during normal operations (not after boot). Any ideas what might causing this?
[08:14] <toZen> cristian_c: what the <df -h> says?
[08:14] <brontosaurusrex> jm123, numeric keypad ?
[08:14] <jm123> ubunoob: what partions are actually being used by win7. i want you to record the size of these.
[08:15] <jm123> this way we can figure out which partitions are still necessary, and which ones we can get rid of.
[08:15] <jm123> bronto: sounds good to me.
[08:15] <andromeduck> well I just fixed my issue, apparently OpenCV's deps wreck havoc with Intel Mesa
[08:16] <andromeduck> joy
[08:17] <ubuNoob> jm123 give me a few minutes please while i get into windows
[08:17] <jm123> okay
[08:17] <Beldar> bad idea
[08:18] <Beldar> windows will not show all the partitions
[08:18] <jm123> i just want to see which ones are being used by windows so none of his files are being deleted.
[08:23] <Beldar> jm123, Can you read the bootscript? I would want that myself, it answers many questions needed here.
[08:24] <Beldar> not everyone goes that route though
[08:24] <jm123> the win bootscript?
[08:25] <Beldar> !bootinfo
[08:25] <Beldar> generally helpful in boot issues, but it does give an accurate outline of important issue
[08:26] <jm123> ah, okay. we can send him into the live disk and have him execute that script.
[08:31] <cristian_c> Here is the paste: http://pastebin.com/yDn0ALfn
[08:31] <cristian_c> Does anyone know something?
[08:31] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[08:32] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Garo_: how did you find out about this problem? I have no clue what could cause it but I am curious to find out how you even realized that this problem exists. Any clue in logs for instance?
[08:33] <ko_lo> o/
[08:36] <Garo_> KyouReeUs4nfo: I run a mongodb instance on top of the LVM volume and the performance crawls to halt if the readahead is set to 4096 sectors.
[08:36] <Garo_> KyouReeUs4nfo: blockdev --report shows the readahead
[08:38] <cosmin> does anyone know if it's possible to create a transparent bridge config between two routers, the first being used only for pppoe hardware offload?
[08:42] <ubuNoob> jm123 are you still they?
[08:44] <root__> hello
[08:45] <ubuNoob> jm123 here the part of what I can see. How will i tell which are the 4 primary partition? http://tinypic.com/4duloa5g
[08:47] <Lukas00> anybody know of a way to use facebook chat in the terminal?
[08:47] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Garo_: Please pastebin output of 'sudo blockdev --report', quick question for you: don't we change these parameters while manually setting up the partitions and not after partitions are setup?
[08:49] <ubuNoob> jm123 http://i57.tinypic.com/11uyo9u.jpg
[08:50] <darkreaper> Is anyyone there?
[08:50]  * AB49K is hiding
[08:52] <k1l_> !rootirc > darkreaper
[08:52] <Garo_> KyouReeUs4nfo: https://gist.github.com/garo/0e5eac9f9c09523ea600 (it's the /dev/dm-2 where the problem is)
[08:52] <Garo_> KyouReeUs4nfo: but now when you mentioned, could it be that lvm re-sets the readahead? I've currently just tried to set it manually with blockdev --setra after I have created the lvm, but should the correct way be that I set it when I create the logical volume?
[08:53] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Garo_: I would think so, yes
[08:54] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Garo_: still looking at the output, brb
[08:55] <darkreaper> has anyone got any latest linux package?
[08:55] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Garo_: what happens if you try 256 instead of 32?
[08:56] <k1l_> darkreaper: better ask more specific questions with info about what ubuntu exactly and what software etc.
[08:56] <darkreaper> how to not use irc as root?
[08:56] <k1l_> darkreaper: how did you start irc?
[08:56] <darkreaper> xchat.....it did give ,e a warning
[08:57] <Stanley00> darkreaper: login as a normal user, and do not use sudo/gksu ?
[08:57] <Garo_> KyouReeUs4nfo: I haven't tried. the 32 is optimal to me (32 * 512 byte sectors == 16KiB) because it matches the size in which mongodb operates. anything larger would most probably result in worse performance as my db access patterns are heavily random
[08:57] <DJones> darkreaper: You're logged in to your system as root, thats you've logged into irc as root
[08:57] <k1l_> darkreaper: are you loged in as root? ubuntu doesnt have a enabled root account
[08:58] <darkreaper> well I don't really understand the difference..and no I didn't use sudo
[08:58] <k1l_> darkreaper: which ubuntu do you use exactly?
[08:59] <darkreaper> not exactly ubuntu
[08:59] <darkreaper> backtrack
[08:59] <k1l_> ok, there is the problem
[08:59] <darkreaper> elaborate?
[08:59] <Stanley00> darkreaper: well, backtrack use only root account, that's the problem :(
[09:00] <darkreaper> So not a bad thing is it?
[09:00] <Arek_> eeee
[09:00] <Stanley00> darkreaper: well, very bad if you cannot understand it :D
[09:00] <Arek_> e
[09:00] <Arek_> e
[09:00] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Garo_: okay, I was just wondering if it would automatically change that value to 4096 if you tried 256 instead of 32, that is all.
[09:00] <Arek_> e
[09:00] <Arek_> e
[09:00] <Arek_> ee
[09:00] <unopaste> Arek_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[09:00] <DJones> Arek_: Stop
[09:01] <k1l_> backtrack is a not supported spin off from ubuntu. it makes changes to ubuntu, like running as root, which ubuntu does not support.
[09:01] <DJones> darkreaper: Its not something thats recommended or supported for Ubuntu, the main backtrack support channel is #backtrack-linux you'll get more approriate support in that channel
[09:01] <darkreaper> Garo : What are you talking about?
[09:01] <Garo_> KyouReeUs4nfo: could be. But thanks about pointing me out that lvm also has setting for readahead. I'll investigate that road =)
[09:02] <darkreaper> Got it
[09:02] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Garo_: It was nothing but accidental. np
[09:06] <Garo_> KyouReeUs4nfo: ok, it seems that my snapshot script does something which sets the readahead back to 4096. Now it should be easy to track down and fix for good =)
[09:06] <RudyValencia> When I'm using any X desktop (MATE, KDE, LXDE, XFCE, etc.) my cursor gets stuck for about a second at the edge of the screen. Why is this happening and how do I stop it?
[09:13] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Garo_: similar issue is reported here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/16715961/mongodb-readahead-warning
[09:14] <CaptainHeavy> Hey everyone.  I've picked up a dropbox daemon init.d script from the net and have had some issues with it.  Currently this line: "if [ -z $dbpid ]; then" is throwing this error: "line 43: [: 4982: binary operator expected"
[09:15] <CaptainHeavy> I've been looking for what -z does in an if conditional on the net but can't find anything about it
[09:15] <Bluewolf> Hi all, I have a Gigabyte Laptop which has double keys so that one can use the numeric keypad, the problem is that my keyboard is typing numbers and not letter. Anyone know how I can fix this problem?
[09:16] <Pricey> Bluewolf: num lock?
[09:16] <Ben64> CaptainHeavy: probably a better question for #bash
[09:17] <Bluewolf> Pricey: Sadly its not as simple as that, the Numberlock key is the same as insert. Insert is set as the first key.
[09:17] <CyborgCygnus> Is there any more information about Ubuntu for Mobiles & Tablets then what is already on the website? I find it lacking in specifics such as release dates, if there will be images/installers for putting them on old devices, if they will even support old & new devices or if any companies have already released devices with it?
[09:18] <Ben64> Bluewolf: usually laptops have a "fn" key for extra options, like using the key as numlock instead of insert
[09:18] <WannaBeGeekster> Can anyone tell me how to make NFS export directories underneath the primary export path?
[09:18] <RudyValencia> Why does my mouse pointer freeze when I click on/near an edge?
[09:18] <WannaBeGeekster> Like my export is here /home/test and I want to be able to map /home/test/123 without having to export everything
[09:20] <Bluewolf> Ben64: It has an Fn key next to the left ctrl key but its not doing anything when I press it?
[09:21] <WannaBeGeekster> That key usually requires a special driver or piece of software running to make it work right
[09:21] <CaptainHeavy> Ben64: cheers bud :)
[09:23] <Bluewolf> Ben64: Okay the Fn button works if I hold it down it allows me to enter keys like L, K, I, O, M. As soon as I let it go then the keys become numbers again?
[09:23] <Ben64> then you probably need to hit the numlock key
[09:24] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Bluewolf: which keyboard layout did you choose when you set up your OS?
[09:24] <Ben64> Bluewolf: you're on linux mint?
[09:25] <cristian__c> The server has disconnected me
[09:25] <cristian__c> Has anyone answered to me?
[09:25] <Bluewolf> KyouReeUs4nfo: I put us but its been working for a while without a problem.
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> cristian_c: i can see you...
[09:27] <Bluewolf> Ben64: Yeah, but I can't get onto their support channel. I guessed it should be a similar setup to Ubuntu, if not would you mind moving onto the offtopic channel?
[09:28] <Viking667> hullo all. is there a way to do a configure of screens aside from the default applications provided with gnome-control-panel?
[09:28] <Ben64> Bluewolf: a tip - just because you can't get to the proper channel for your topic doesn't make it on topic in #ubuntu. It is deceptive to come in here and ask for help with non-ubuntu systems and potentially can cause problems
[09:28] <Viking667> I'm wanting to modify facets of a display and add screenmodes that Xorg isn't showing at the moment.
[09:30] <ole_oz6oh> somebody here there have tried miro??
[09:31] <bazhang> !info miro | ole_oz6oh
[09:31] <bazhang> whats your precise question ole_oz6oh
[09:31] <cristian_c> ActionParsnip, ?
[09:31] <ole_oz6oh> bazhang  hello my problem is i can't download video only music
[09:32] <Bluewolf> Ben64: Understood then to not be deceptive would you mind I pm you or move to offtopic.
[09:32] <bazhang> ole_oz6oh, video from where
[09:32] <bazhang> cristian_c, repeat your issue to the channel please
[09:33] <cristian_c> ok
[09:33] <ole_oz6oh> i must speak about it here  hi hi
[09:33] <ole_oz6oh> bazhang you know a very good place to get progamms  hi hi
[09:33] <bazhang> ole_oz6oh, firefox has a video download helper plugin you might try if miro does not work well
[09:34] <olalonde> why is Ubuntu "Debian based" ? what do they share in common exactly? the package format?
[09:34] <cristian_c> I've typed sudo fsck.msdos -aw /dev/sdc1
[09:34] <k1l_> olalonde: the package format and alot of packages get pushed from the debian unstable repo
[09:34] <ole_oz6oh> i would download a bbc vidio
[09:34] <bazhang> olalonde, apt-get the package manager, .deb and more
[09:34] <cristian_c> now I can mount the micro-sd card, but folders and files are empty and have got strange names
[09:34] <cristian_c> what can I do?
[09:35] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:35] <k1l_> ole_oz6oh: bbc got country based limited access. so that is not legally possible if you are not in uk
[09:35] <olalonde> k1l_: so in general, the debian repo is compatible with Ubuntu?
[09:35] <ole_oz6oh> bazhang can you run Skype ??
[09:35] <bazhang> ole_oz6oh, depending on the format, the firefox video download helper might work
[09:35] <Ben64> olalonde: debian repositories should not be used in ubuntu
[09:35] <bazhang> ole_oz6oh, I dont have skype sorry
[09:36] <ole_oz6oh> bazhang ok
[09:36] <olalonde> Ben64: what if a package is unavailable in Ubuntu? would it work?
[09:36] <k1l_> olalonde: no. most packages get changed and made compatible with the other ubunut packages when the get pushed from debian to ubuntu
[09:36] <Ben64> cristian_c: can you pastebin the "strange names"
[09:36] <bazhang> olalonde, PPA or compile
[09:36] <k1l_> olalonde: see if there is a PPA
[09:36] <bazhang> !ppa > olalonde
[09:37] <olalonde> what if you don't know how to make packages? :P
[09:37] <k1l_> olalonde: see if someone did that already: PPA
[09:37] <olalonde> just wondering what's the difference between debian and ubuntu packages
[09:37] <bazhang> then get the PPA, as we just said olalonde
[09:38] <cristian_c> Ben64, many names are meaningless, no letters or numbers, but symbols
[09:38] <bazhang> olalonde, did you actually read the link given you?
[09:38] <Ben64> cristian_c: ok, so pastebin it
[09:38] <todamoon> bazhang: I know what PPAs are
[09:38] <cristian_c> Others are fsck0000xxx
[09:38] <cristian_c> or similar
[09:39] <cristian_c> Ben64, ok
[09:40] <cristian_c> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/s94hbWag
[09:40] <Ben64> cristian_c: cool. so if none of the files contain any data then you'll have to reformat it
[09:42] <buddhi> hey guys
[09:42] <cristian_c> Ben64, I've created a .dd file
[09:43] <cristian_c> Ben64, but I don't understand
[09:43] <frogman1> hi everybody
[09:43] <cristian_c> Ben64, I've got data on this micro-sd card
[09:43] <Ben64> cristian_c: you used dd before you used fsck to make a copy of the card?
[09:43] <cristian_c> Ben64, yes
[09:44] <cristian_c> Ben64, fsck has permitted me to mount the card
[09:44] <frogman1> i am an system engineer and I am working in a netwrok issue, I need help to solve a issue with DUP! packets
[09:44] <cristian_c> but result is not very good
[09:44] <Ben64> cristian_c: then you can use photorec to try to recover something from the dd file, might not work
[09:45] <cristian_c> Ben64, are data missed?
[09:45] <cristian_c> :
[09:45] <cristian_c> *:O
[09:45] <cristian_c> with fsck?
[09:45] <Ben64> ....what?
[09:45] <cristian_c> *lost
[09:45] <frogman1> anybody has had any DUP! problem in the past?
[09:45] <Ben64> cristian_c: yeah probably, which is why you made a backup beforehand
[09:46] <cristian_c> uhmmmmm
[09:46]  * cristian_c cries
[09:46] <cristian_c> Ben64, photorec is not very good
[09:47] <cristian_c> Ben64, what other better can I use?
[09:47] <Ben64> cristian_c: stop crying and try photorec. if that doesn't work your data is lost forever, and you should learn to not trust flash media
[09:47] <Ben64> photorec is very good, why do you say otherwise?
[09:47] <cristian_c> Ben64, I've tried in past
[09:48] <Viking667> I'm assuming there's already been an image taken for ddrescue to do its work?
[09:48] <Ben64> well, it works fine. must have been user error
[09:48]  * Viking667 waves goodnight.
[09:48] <cristian_c> but fi fsck has made damages, I'd like not to repeat them with photorec
[09:49] <alquaida> hi
[09:49] <alquaida> all
[09:49] <Ben64> photorec doesn't write anything to the drive/partition/image file it is reading from, that'd defeat the purpose
[09:49] <cristian_c> considering that last year I tried photorec and it did irreparable damages
[09:50] <Ben64> thats not possible
[09:50] <cristian_c> and given that fsck did damage
[09:50] <cristian_c> uhm
[09:51] <cristian_c> Ben64, I'd like to recover the partition from .dd file, and photorec is a muddle
[09:52] <Ben64> photorec works fine. if you want to continue arguing instead of trying what will work, go ahead, i won't participate any longer
[09:52] <cristian_c> Ben64, but I've already tried
[09:53] <cristian_c> and I don't want loose data again :(
[09:53] <Ben64> then good luck, i'm done
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> cristian_c: why do you not have a backup?
[09:54] <cristian_c> I've stored in sd to save the data from the pc
[09:54] <cristian_c> *sd-card
[09:55] <cristian_c> *I've stored data in the micro-sd card from pc
[09:56] <Guest77926> hi! how can i "chown u+rwx" and "chown g-w" in one only line without using numbers?
[09:56] <jimbojambo> hi there, if the unity's preferences don't give a change.. what can i do, before the reinstalling the SO?
[10:02] <atrioom> hi! when i put echos in shellscripts and start them with crontab, where do the echos go? how can I imagine this better?
[10:02] <jimbojambo> hi there, if the unity's preferences don't give a change.. what can i do, before the reinstalling the SO?
[10:04] <jimbojambo> atrioom , I think that all is explained in man crontab
[10:04] <jimbojambo> hi there, if the unity's preferences don't give a change.. what can i do, before the reinstalling the SO?
[10:09] <jimbojambo> hi there, if the unity's preferences don't give a change.. what can i do, before the reinstalling the SO?
[10:09] <k1l_> jimbojambo: can you be more specific? what do you try to change, where do you make the change,...
[10:09] <jimbojambo> thank kill
[10:09] <k1l_> jimbojambo: and some changes need a relogin
[10:10] <slikts> anyone know why I can't install firefox 29 from the firefox-next ppa?
[10:10] <k1l_> did you try: unity-tweak-tool?
[10:10] <slikts> I do apt-add-repository ppa/firefox-next blabla and it adds successfuly, and then apt-get update, but apt-cache policy still shows only firefox 28
[10:11] <slikts> talking about this: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next
[10:11] <slikts> I'm on 13.10
[10:11] <jimbojambo> k1l_ initially I try to set compiz to invert colours, because all that white creep my eyes
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> slikts: what is the output of:   apt-cache policy firefox    use a pastebin to host
[10:12] <k1l_> slikts: can you show the exact output of that commmands you entered to set the PPA ?
[10:12] <jimbojambo> there I made an error, so i recharged the default Unity settings
[10:12] <slikts> ActionParsnip: http://hastebin.com/malewijugi.avrasm
[10:13] <k1l_> jimbojambo: if you used ccsm you need to reset compiz, too
[10:13] <Chuck_Norris> aloha all
[10:13] <slikts> ActionParsnip, k1l_: here is the output from apt-add-repository http://hastebin.com/duyoqamoyo.vhdl
[10:13] <Chuck_Norris> anyone knows a command to switch between sound cards?
[10:14] <jimbojambo> k1l_ thank's but I halt and reboot many times from this all
[10:14] <Chuck_Norris> on the fly -.-
[10:14] <tirengarfio__> how to run skype in ubuntu 13.10?
[10:14] <tirengarfio__> I ahve installed but when I run skype it says command not found
[10:14] <jimbojambo> now Unity is usable, but not changeable
[10:15] <hiteshtr> is it possible to install windows 8.1 along pre installed ubuntu
[10:15] <Chuck_Norris> tirengarfio__, try apropos chat -.-
[10:15] <k1l_> jimbojambo: try that: sudo dpkg-reconfigure compiz
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> slikts: ok, read the version numbers,.....
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> slikts: the PPA has the same version number as the official Ubuntu repos, yes?
[10:16] <Chuck_Norris> or write sky and tap twice the <TAB> key
[10:16] <slikts> ActionParsnip: no, it has 29 aka the beta aka next
[10:16] <Chuck_Norris> tirengarfio__,  or: whereis skype
[10:16] <slikts> ActionParsnip: the ubuntu repos have just 28
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> slikts: your apt-cache output only shows 28
[10:17] <slikts> ActionParsnip: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next
[10:17] <slikts> ActionParsnip: that's the problem, it's supposed to be 29
[10:17] <hiteshtr> dual boot windows 8.1 and ubuntu ?
[10:18] <jimbojambo> k1l_ and that is so frustrating, through the graphic system preferences and Unity tweak tool, too I try to set keyboard without any effect, and more the work spaces aren-t available. Thank-s for the command, I-m going to try
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> slikts: then contact the PPA maintainer
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> slikts: ahhh the build failed, check top right of the page
[10:18] <slikts> ActionParsnip: oh ok
[10:18] <hussi> hi
[10:19] <hussi> some one help me.
[10:19] <Luyin> hussi: you might want to state your problem first
[10:19] <hussi> i don't know how to install idm on ubuntu??/
[10:19] <Chuck_Norris> lo), hussi intall jdownloader
[10:20] <Chuck_Norris> it is better and opensource
[10:20] <hussi> luyin: how to install it:
[10:20] <WannaBeGeekster> I hear wget works great
[10:20] <Chuck_Norris> hussi, and it have linux support :p
[10:21] <hiteshtr> ?? can any one guide me about dual boot of win 8.1 and ubuntu ?
[10:21] <hussi> chuck_norris: how to install??
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> hussi: wget is easier to install and doesnt need java
[10:21] <Chuck_Norris> hussi, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jd-team/jdownloader ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install jdownloader
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> hussi: or fatrat if you want one with a web interface (easier management of downloads over LAN and/or WAN)
[10:21] <Luyin> wget should already be installed imho
[10:21] <k1l_> !pm | jimbojambo
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> !info fatrat
[10:22] <hussi> ok thanks to all
[10:22] <Chuck_Norris> wget with rapidshare, megaupload, so on?
[10:22] <hiteshtr> any one read what i asked :(
[10:22] <hussi> i m trying..
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> hussi: install fatrat and run it, no java bloating the setup. If you enable the web ui and port forward on the router, you can set downloads going when you are out and about :)
[10:23] <jimbojambo> so .. i will reinstall ubuntu with no graphic ambience uhauhauha
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> hussi: for IDM: www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8_P58fbB20
[10:24] <k1l_> jimbojambo: i dont really get your issue. why didnt you just change the theme in first place instead of making changes where you dont know what you do?
[10:24] <hussi> thanks actionparsnip.
[10:24] <Chuck_Norris> hussi, it is all ok what ActionParsnip and other people could write to you, but what i wrote to you is the most easy way -.-
[10:24] <Chuck_Norris> :p
[10:24] <hussi> ok i will try
[10:24] <hussi> thank u alot.
[10:24] <jimbojambo> k1l_ it's not the correct vision of the case, i think
[10:26] <jimbojambo> because the main preferences is quite useless...
[10:26] <Chuck_Norris> anyone knows a command to switch between sound cards? -.-
[10:26] <Chuck_Norris> on tha fly
[10:29] <Guest0738> Chuck_Norris:  pulseaudio -c x    (or:   alsamixer -c x)      Replace x with card number 0,1 etc
[10:29] <ihre> Chuck_Norris: with asoundconf you can change your primary soundcard with 1 command (2 to be sure though) :p
[10:30] <Chuck_Norris> oh! ty all of ya
[10:30] <Chuck_Norris> both* of ya
[10:32] <atrioom> jimbojambo: man crontab has only information about how to edit crontab and that you shouldnt edit the underlying files directly
[10:32] <atrioom> jimbojambo: unfortunately nothing about where echos in executed scripts go...
[10:32] <swaagie> can I drop a (what I feel like) is a more general question related to screens than 14.04 here? kinda silent in the other channel :P
[10:34] <Chuck_Norris> and... what do ya think about my art guys ? -.-  http://i.imgur.com/5vORVKQ.jpg
[10:34] <slikts> anyone know why my numlock key doesn't work in 13.10?
[10:35] <slikts> I can't turn on the numlock
[10:36] <slikts> the option to control mouse with keypad is off
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> slikts: does the system have a make and model, or is it a desktop?
[10:38] <gabmus> hello everyone
[10:38] <slikts> ActionParsnip: it's a desktop, the keyboard is corsair vengeance k60
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> slikts: if you run:   xev   and press numlock, does it make events?
[10:39] <slikts> ActionParsnip: yes
[10:39] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Chuck_Norris: Is that manually configured Openbox ?
[10:39] <slikts> it even says Num_Lock there
[10:40] <gabmus> i have some minor problems with my grub: i recently installed in a separate partition of my main hdd kubuntu and now whenever i boot up i see kubuntu grub, not the one from ubuntu-gnome which is my main system. i tried running sudo update-grub in ubuntu-gnome, but nothing changes. how do i get to boot ubuntu-gnome's grub instead of kubuntu's?
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> slikts: ok at least its sending signals, does the input change when numlock is pressed etc?
[10:41] <slikts> ActionParsnip: I managed to enable it using numlockx(1)
[10:41] <slikts> ActionParsnip: nothing happens when numlock is pressed
[10:41] <slikts> i.e., it's not toggled and remains off
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> gabmus: isnt it grub2 and grub2? How is it different?
[10:43] <gabmus> kubuntu's boots kubuntu first. also the changes made in /etc/defaults/grub aren't applied in ubuntu-gnome
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> slikts: you could use a keyboard key mapper and set that key to do the numlock function, it may just need to be told what your keyboard sends fo numlock.
[10:43] <slikts> ActionParsnip: this rather stinks
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> gabmus: why are you dual booting 2 identical OSes? You can install KDE in Ubuntu-gnome and select the session on the login screen.....
[10:44] <gabmus> dont worry about this, kubuntu is for tests with stuff. i dont want to compromise my main os plus i wanted to try kde out, this isnt the problem
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> slikts: are there any bugs reported?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> slikts: sounds like the keyboard isnt sending standard signals to Xorg
[10:44] <slikts> ActionParsnip: none that I could find by googling
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> gabmus: ok, was just curious :)
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> slikts: then I suggest you report a bug
[10:45] <gabmus> np
[10:45] <endotermic> an use windows now
[10:46] <endotermic> jmsc: you can use windows now
[10:47] <gabmus> anyone?
[10:50] <gabmus> come on, anyone=
[10:53] <slikts> ActionParsnip: the numlock problem is a known bug from at least 2010
[10:53] <gabmus> im gonna say it again
[10:53] <gabmus> i have some minor problems with my grub: i recently installed in a separate partition of my main hdd kubuntu and now whenever i boot up i see kubuntu grub, not the one from ubuntu-gnome which is my main system. i tried running sudo update-grub in ubuntu-gnome, but nothing changes. how do i get to boot ubuntu-gnome's grub instead of kubuntu's?
[10:54] <humbag> gabmus: you'd want sudo grub-install <device> , run from the ubuntu-gnome side
[10:54] <gabmus> so sudo grub-install /dev/sda ?
[10:56] <gabmus> humbag: please respond
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> slikts: there you go then, weird signal from keyboard rather than standard signals
[10:57] <slikts> ActionParsnip: how come xev says it's Num_Lock then?
[10:58] <humbag> 'the device which the bios will boot'
[10:58] <gabmus> perfect
[10:58] <gabmus> done, lets try
[10:58] <gabmus> thanks btw, brb
[11:00] <Laurenceb__> hi
[11:00] <Laurenceb__> i have a problem, FAT32 files have time offset by an hour
[11:00] <Laurenceb__> anyone got any ideas how to fix this?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> slikts: not sure, but looks like you need to manually map the key yourself....
[11:02] <slikts> ActionParsnip: joy
[11:02] <gabmus> it works, thanks :D
[11:02] <slikts> ActionParsnip: I only ever use the keypad for numbers, so I'll just leave it always on
[11:02] <slikts> ActionParsnip: I added `numlockx on` to xinitrc
[11:03] <ayas> hai
[11:06] <ironsquid> hello. that is all
[11:06] <gtuckerkellogg> so i just set up a brand new dell workstation running ubuntu 12.0.4, but turning the monitor off (it's connected using the display port) seems to lose the connection entirely.  I can't wake the damn thing up
[11:07] <ironsquid> have you tried an alarm clock?
[11:07] <gtuckerkellogg> i'm sure if i hit it with an alarm clock *something* would happen
[11:08] <ironsquid> are there any connection alternatives?
[11:08] <ironsquid> like usb etc?
[11:08] <ironsquid> hdmi?
[11:09] <logical_> hey ppl how can i add a folder to the left side of "files" (files explorer)
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> logical_: use the bookmarks menu "add to bookmarks"
[11:10] <ironsquid> logical you mean like add a favorite?
[11:11] <ironsquid> give me one second... and I can tell you how to do that one it's been a while.
[11:11] <rapid32> if i get:  libudev0 : Breaks: libudev0:i386 (!= 175-0ubuntu9.4) but 175-0ubuntu9.5 is installed
[11:11] <rapid32>  libudev0:i386 : Breaks: libudev0 (!= 175-0ubuntu9.5) but 175-0ubuntu9.4 is installed
[11:11] <rapid32> what is wrong?
[11:12] <ironsquid> CRTL+D is how you add stuff
[11:12] <ironsquid> you get that <logical_>
[11:12] <logical_> ActionParsnip: it doesnt allow me to add it, when i go to bookmarks--> add to bookmarks it is grey it doesnt work
[11:13] <Hfuy> Hello.
[11:13] <ironsquid> did you try ctrl+d?
[11:13] <Laurenceb__> hi
[11:13] <Laurenceb__> is anyone here?
[11:13] <ironsquid> here
[11:13] <Laurenceb__> i have a problem with fat32 timestamps
[11:13] <Hfuy> I have a cellphone here that does USB tethering to Windows laptops; is there any chance I can get this working on Ubuntu?
[11:13] <logical_> yes i did ctrl +d also dont work
[11:13] <cfhowlett> Laurenceb__, ask your ubuntu question.
[11:13] <Laurenceb__> they are defaulting to UTC
[11:13] <logical_> maybe i should start files as sudo?
[11:13] <Laurenceb__> how do i force them to local?
[11:13] <ironsquid> Hfuy I run a droid off my laptop
[11:13] <cfhowlett> Hfuy, what version of ubuntu and what kind of phone?
[11:14] <Laurenceb__> this means i cant sync with windows
[11:14] <k1l_> Hfuy: depends on that phone(or on the phone OS)
[11:14] <Laurenceb__> as the times are offset
[11:14] <Hfuy> It's a droid
[11:14] <`ryban> back :)
[11:14] <k1l_> !details | Hfuy
[11:15] <Hfuy> Well, the only thing I can add is that my other option is to use the wifi hotspot feature in the phone, which may be easier.
[11:15] <k1l_> Hfuy: in general thetering roks ootb with "droid"
[11:15] <gtuckerkellogg> ironsquid, There's no HDMI, but there's a DVI. Same thing.  It just goes into power save mode.  Very weird
[11:15] <cfhowlett> Hfuy, you need to use
[11:15] <Hfuy> k1l_: Well, I plugged it in, and it doesn't seem to work very well.
[11:15] <Hfuy> I'm sure my ubuntu install will be seen as horribly outdated, but one could update linux weekly and be seen as horribly outdated, so :)
[11:16] <k1l_> Hfuy: sry, but without exact versions of "droid" and ubuntu we cant help you.
[11:16] <Hfuy> I have no idea what version the phone is. I bought it yesterday, brand new.
[11:16] <Hfuy> it's a very basic one
[11:16] <k1l_> Hfuy: i just but my "droid" with usb cable in and it works. so just think of the details that are missing
[11:16] <Hfuy> An LG E410i
[11:16] <cfhowlett> Hfuy, open an ubuntu terminal.  type cat /etc/issue              and report what it says
[11:17] <Hfuy> Wait one. Laptop is misbehaving.
[11:18] <Hfuy> "Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l"
[11:21] <rapid32> what can i do about: libudev0:amd64 175-0ubuntu9.4 cannot be configured because libudev0:i386 is in a different version (175-0ubuntu9.5)
[11:22] <Hfuy> On another issue - is there anything I could conceivably turn off or down to speed this laptop up? It's just a little atom netbook and the full Compiz experience seems to be a bit much for it.
[11:23] <cfhowlett> Hfuy, install lxde.  logout.  select lxde session.  login.
[11:23] <Hfuy> lxde?
[11:24] <k1l_> !lubuntu | Hfuy
[11:24] <Hfuy> Hmm, okay.
[11:24] <Hfuy> I'm a bit cautious about installing things that are "not ubuntu" on the basis that the reason to use ubuntu is that it's fairly well supported.
[11:25] <dw1> Hfuy: http://www.howtogeek.com/107368/how-to-install-the-lightweight-lxde-desktop-on-ubuntu/
[11:25] <cfhowlett> Hfuy, then install lubuntu = ubuntu + lxde
[11:25] <cfhowlett> from canonical
[11:25] <cfhowlett> !flavors|Hfuy,
[11:25] <Hfuy> Righto
[11:25] <Hfuy> I think this Ubuntu install may have died anyway. Can't get it to boot.
[11:25]  * Hfuy delivers swift kick to laptop
[11:26] <dw1> i run lubuntu on a very low power netbook - runs good
[11:26] <delkin> During boot is it possible to have a service that changes the hostname before the network services are brought up? Is the file system still Read-only when the networking services run?
[11:26] <Hfuy> Problem is, will this create horrendous compatibility problems with things like (for instance) USB tethering or running Open Office.
[11:27] <cfhowlett> Hfuy, uh NO it will not.  open office runs fine on all official flavors of ubuntu.
[11:27] <dw1> its just a window manager on top of all the real mechanics
[11:27] <Hfuy> OK, I might look at that
[11:27] <Hfuy> Rather fed up with being able to type five seconds ahead of the screen update.
[11:28] <Hfuy> I mean, it's pretty, and all, but...
[11:28] <dw1> theres also the "No effects" ubuntu desktop you can choose from the login screen
[11:28] <bgardner> Laurenceb__: Is this a removable drive, like a flash drive?
[11:28] <Laurenceb__> yes
[11:28] <Hfuy> I'm not sure how much of it is the desktop, and how much is otherthings.
[11:29] <Hfuy> Certainly it's a bit sluggish with modern, heavy web UIs like Yahoo Mail.
[11:29] <Hfuy> (Though that's twelve kinds of terrible anyway)
[11:29] <cfhowlett> Hfuy, you're running an atom notebook = low specs.  lubuntu and xubuntu are optimized for low spec hardware.  ubuntu is NOT optimized in that manner.
[11:30] <Hfuy> It's theoretically supposed to have some sort of nvidia graphics hardware in it which is presumably what's letting it do compiz at all.
[11:30] <Hfuy> But you're right, it ain't great.
[11:30] <Hfuy> Frankly it's like it was under win7 ;/
[11:32] <bgardner> Laurenceb__: Have you customized fstab at all, or are you just using the default mount options?
[11:32] <tirengarfio__> I have a blog here: http://www.mareva.es/noticias the problem: when I wan to share an article to facebook, the pre publish page is shown and it says something like: "amistades guadalajara club deportivo", I dont know why..
[11:32] <cfhowlett> !es|tirengarfio__,
[11:32] <cfhowlett> tirengarfio__, note: this is not facebook support.
[11:33] <tirengarfio__> cfhowlett, sorry
[11:33] <cfhowlett> tirengarfio__, no worries
[11:35] <Laurenceb__> just default options
[11:40] <Malsasa> Hello. Any clue for printer resetting in Linux? We can do it with resetter software on Windows. Any software or technique like that on Linux? Thank you.
[11:41] <bgardner> Laurenceb__: Well, I found the vfat option for 'tz=UTC', but it looks like you have to manually enable it for your problem to show up.  This option is new to me, perhaps someone else can comment?
[11:42] <Laurenceb__> bgardner: ok thanks anyway
[11:42] <Laurenceb__> ive added a cronjob to fix the timestamps
[11:42] <Laurenceb__> its very silly but its working, files are syncing to windows now
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> Malsasa: what does a 'resetter' do to a printer?
[11:45] <rapid32> what can i do about: libudev0:amd64 175-0ubuntu9.4 cannot be configured because libudev0:i386 is in a different version (175-0ubuntu9.5)?
[11:46] <g105b> I'm having trouble booting on my Intel NUC PC. Just installed Ubuntu 13.10 on a fresh mSATA drive -- isn't being detected as bootable. Something about UEFI?
[11:47] <Malsasa> ActionParsnip: in Windows, you can stop blinking printer by doing resetting. Blinking printer means the printer won't print anything because the limitation value on it's EEPROM. The limitation sets by printer vendor, and the resetter software reset the value to zero. Only that what I know, Sir.
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Malsasa: sounds like a bad printer, or a cheap printer
[11:50] <Malsasa> ActionParsnip: no, almost all Canon printer has that habit. That is what I know. Look for "canon printer resetter" keyword on Google and you will see how useful is that. You don't need to bring your printer to service center to do it (and you save much money).
[11:51]  * Malsasa sorry for my bad english, Sir
[11:52] <OerHeks> Malsasa, so you want to cancel the current printjob?
[11:53] <Malsasa> OerHeks: hmmm, I just looking for software for printer resetting, Sir. If you don't reset the blinking printer, you will never print anything. That is the characteristic of almost all Canon printers I know.
[11:53]  * Malsasa correct me if I'm wrong, thank you...
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Malsasa: Canon support Linux quite well, have you checked the Canon Europe site
[11:55] <Malsasa> ActionParsnip: hm, thank you so much. But all of resetter software I have looked at Windows, are third parties. Canon won't make a resetter, I think. The main function of resetter is to avoid you to bring your printer again to the service center.
[11:56] <OerHeks> Malsasa, turn off and on again should do that
[11:57] <OerHeks> Malsasa, i can't find such option to reset your printer, only hold/cancel printjobs, open your browser and surf to localhost:631 #to manage printjobs and settings
[11:57] <Malsasa> OerHeks: no, no. Have you ever did a printer resetting on Windows? If resetting is as simple of that, there is no need a resetter to be. Resetting means rewritting the EEPROM of printer to zero value.
[11:57] <stevenm> hey whats the diff between using "http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security" and "http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security"    ?
[11:59] <Malsasa> OerHeks: every you print a paper, the EEPROM value increase 1. Increase again, again, again until the limit value set by vendor. Nah, what to do if the limit reached? Resetting, Sir. The software named resetter.
[11:59] <Malsasa> OerHeks: thank you so much for your attention.
[12:00] <OerHeks> Malsasa, the only printcounter i know, could be in the printercartridge, there are hardwaretools to reset those, but the counter in your printer cannot be reset AFAIK
[12:01] <Malsasa> OerHeks: but look at resetter software for Canon, as example. Maybe you can google it. I found all printer technicians (not Canon official) on my country always use resetter to do it. And as result, the printer works again.
[12:02]  * Malsasa have google it for Linux (not Windows, Linux) but no one satisfy me. Almost zero result for "blinking printer" or "printer resetter" on Linux on Google, Sir. 
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> stevenm: trusty is supported and discussed in #ubuntu+1 only, til release day
[12:07] <cfhowlett> Malsasa, zero results probably means ... zero results.
[12:07] <Malsasa> cfhowlett: then, any printer resetter for Linux, Sir?
[12:08] <cfhowlett> !cups|Malsasa,
[12:08] <cfhowlett> Malsasa, start there ^^^
[12:08] <yorwos> hi guyz, im having this problem , https://launchpad.net/~brandonsnider/+archive/cdrtools , i add the repository but then when i apt-get install it says E: Unable to locate package cdtools , any hints ?
[12:08] <yorwos> ive done sudo apt-get update
[12:09] <Malsasa> cfhowlett: yes I know. I asked for resetter, Sir. Have you ever used it on Windows? For your Canon/Epson printer? Thank you.
[12:09] <yorwos> and it adding the repository was ok no problems
[12:09] <yorwos> cdrtools*
[12:09] <cfhowlett> Malsasa, for windows support, see #windows.  and I've never used a Canon because linux support is better on HP
[12:10] <OerHeks> yorwos, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[12:10] <yorwos> ill try upgrade only update so far
[12:11] <OerHeks> all versions are supported, so it should be no problem
[12:11] <yorwos> i think that was it ;)
[12:11] <yorwos> no , still unable to locate package
[12:12] <OerHeks> yorwos, "says E: Unable to locate package cdtools " is correct, it is cdrtools
[12:12] <yorwos> i added the rep with this command sudo add-apt-repository ppa:brandonsnider/cdrtools
[12:13] <yorwos> E: Unable to locate package cdrtools
[12:13] <yorwos> same :/
[12:14] <cfhowlett> !info cdrtools
[12:14] <yorwos> on the web page it says it does https://launchpad.net/~brandonsnider/+archive/cdrtools?field.series_filter=saucy   -  cdrtools 	10:3.01a22-0ubuntu1~saucy~cdrtoolsppa4 	Brandon Snider (2014-01-22)
[12:15] <cfhowlett> !ppa|yorwos,
[12:15] <cfhowlett> yorwos, right you DID say ppa.  sorry I missed it.
[12:16] <yorwos> yorwos@linux1:~$ !info cdrtools
[12:16] <yorwos> bash: !info: event not found
[12:16] <yorwos>    ,
[12:17] <yorwos> i see
[12:17] <stevenm> Is there any reason to use security.ubuntu.com vs. archive.ubuntu.com that also holds security?
[12:18] <bekks> yorwos: "!info" is a trigger in here, in your shell, just use "info"
[12:20] <Nachtschatten> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 Server (32bit), it works fine 'till after the part where it checks for the network interfaces. When that progress bar closes no other appears. Thus I stare at a purple screen from that point
[12:21] <Malsasa> cfhowlett: then the conclusion is no resetter fo Canon and Epson on Linux? That is my point of question, Sir. Thank you.
[12:21] <cfhowlett> Malsasa, I can't offer you any more than I did.  keep asking in channel, someone else might know.
[12:21] <Wayward_Vagabond> I'm ttying to killall proceses with .exe in them, but i seem to be doing something wrong
[12:21] <cfhowlett> Nachtschatten, might want to move this to #ubuntu-server but first: you DID md5sum check the ISO, right?
[12:22] <JBtje> Is it possible for samba to stop working after upgrading to the latest kernel over ubuntu 12.04LTS?
[12:22] <Malsasa> cfhowlett: thank you so much, Sir. I asked it because it is very interesting. Truly I have never know any resetter for Linux. It would be great if any.
[12:22] <Wayward_Vagabond> "killall .exe" and "killall *.exe" don't seem to work
[12:22]  * Malsasa thank you all for your responses here
[12:23] <chalcedony> I have ubuntu 13.04, a new installation on my lenovo laptop. When i connect it to the wired lan it works fine. I go to wifi, and c
[12:23] <chalcedony> arry it out of the room, and it loses the connection. the laptop worked fine on windows 8.1 with wifi, what can i do?
[12:23] <Nachtschatten> No, I didn't cfhowlett. I wanted to do that, couldn't find the page with the key ._.
[12:23] <cfhowlett> Nachtschatten, wait 1
[12:23] <slikts> anyone here use xmonad with ubuntu?
[12:23] <Wayward_Vagabond> What am I doing wrong?
[12:23] <heinvd> Hi all, I have 13.04, dual screen
[12:23] <slikts> I mean, anyone here use xmonad with unity?
[12:23] <heinvd> but when my system goes to sleep the one monitor doesnt wake up
[12:24] <heinvd> one monitor runs on d-sub and the other on HDMI....  the hdmi does not wake up
[12:24] <cfhowlett> Nachtschatten, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/12.04/release/    this is for 12.04.  the LATEST release is 12.04.4 ....
[12:25] <slikts> is there a desktop environment with a taskbar that works exactly like windows 7?
[12:26] <Nachtschatten> Thank you, cfhowlett. I'll check that out first
[12:27] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|Nachtschatten,
[12:27] <stevenm> slikts, the old gnome 2 (what ubuntu used to use before unity) isn't far off - look at the 'mate' project as they continue it
[12:27] <slikts> stevenm: since when gnome 2 was like w7's taskbar
[12:28] <slikts> stevenm: in gnome 2 you didn't launch software from the taskbar
[12:28] <cfhowlett> slikts, "exactly like windows 7" ?  no.
[12:28] <heinvd> any one any ideas on the monitor issue?
[12:28] <Wayward_Vagabond> What's the proper way to specify a wildcard, or anything containing a given snippet for killall?
[12:28] <stevenm> well I said it isn't far off... you *can* have a taskbar at the bottom with a start-menu like button and a tray area
[12:28] <JBtje> My samba server stopped, anyone can help me find out the problem?
[12:28] <stevenm> gnome 2 / mate can group windows together like the w7 taskbar
[12:28] <slikts> stevenm: it is quite far off
[12:28] <stevenm> slikts, how?
[12:29] <cfhowlett> !server|JBtje,
[12:29] <slikts> stevenm: w7's taskbar is a launcher/dock, like unity's, while in gnome it's like in windows xp, just a taskbar
[12:29] <slikts> stevenm: in gnome 2 that is
[12:29] <slikts> stevenm: big difference
[12:30] <yorwos> ok with info cdrtools something like a text book came uo with hundreds of pages
[12:30] <stevenm> a 'launcher/dock' !? it's a damned taskbar  -  not an apple dock
[12:30] <slikts> stevenm: in unity or w7+ it's also a launcher
[12:30] <Wayward_Vagabond> Erm, taskbar?
[12:30] <stevenm> slikts, you can have as many icons for it to be a 'launcher' as you like on gnome 2/mate as well
[12:31] <stevenm> i'm guessing you want something where the button a) launches it and b) clicking again brings up the open running copy
[12:31] <slikts> stevenm: no that is like quick launch in windows xp, not like w7 or unity
[12:31] <slikts> stevenm: yes
[12:31] <Nachtschatten> uhm, this ubuntustudio, is this the same as ubuntu server? o-o
[12:32] <cfhowlett> Nachtschatten, oh snap.  I misread.  not the same at all
[12:32] <cfhowlett> Nachtschatten, confirm: you have ubuntustudio 12.04?
[12:33] <Nachtschatten> I have Ubuntu Server 12.04.4, cfhowlett
[12:33] <stevenm> slikts, sounds like you want something like this... http://www.webupd8.org/2013/03/dockbarx-available-as-xfce-panel-plugin.html
[12:33] <cfhowlett> Nachtschatten, my apologies   http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/precise/daily/20140331/
[12:34] <JuneDjangostuden> Hi
[12:34] <JuneDjangostuden> anyone else here learning django :)
[12:34] <slikts> stevenm: I don't want to deal with backwards crap like mate though
[12:34] <stevenm> slikts, well that article was for xfce actually
[12:35] <cfhowlett> JuneDjangostuden, see their site for support channels and options.
[12:35] <slikts> stevenm: it works for mate as well
[12:35] <Nachtschatten> It doesn't seem to be correct. I'll redownload it and try again
[12:37] <Guest17937> someone knows what is the problem, when you are on logon screen, go on your password, and the system load, next black screen, and next reload the login screen again, and again, and again ?
[12:37] <stevenm> slikts, it runs standalone if you prefer - but i think it's only been integrated with xfce as a panel - not mate, the article is just for mate users
[12:39] <JuneDjangostuden> tough to see the text is all same color
[12:40] <cfhowlett> JuneDjangostuden, #django for django support
[12:41] <toZen> Guest17937: login console with Ctrl+Alt+F1 then your login name and password after it <cd /home/your_user_name; rm -f .Xauthority .ICEauthority> <sudo shutdown -r now>
[12:43] <Nachtschatten> Strange... both downloaded images have the same md5sum key, but not the one they are supposed to have <.<
[12:43] <cfhowlett> Nachtschatten, more info ...
[12:45] <Nachtschatten> they both give me 0081e57fb8c7e4094fb9767384f087c6 when the one on the website says cd895d4fa150c14eb534860c134e8765 , cfhowlett
[12:45] <xee> Hi, I was installing Ubuntu so first I used gparted to create and resize partitions and then I launched the installed, I found there's a 1 GB size difference (14 GB in gparted vs 15 in Installer), is this normal ?
[12:47] <jpds> stevenm: There is no difference.
[12:47] <slikts> the default image viewer is idiotic in not having hotkeys for functions like zoom
[12:48] <stevenm> jpds, didn't think so - also noticed that security,  archive and gb.archive are the same set of servers
[12:49] <Nachtschatten> perhaps I should've
[12:49] <jpds> stevenm: Hmm, I can tell you with 100% certainly that trusty-security is the same across all archive servers.
[12:49] <Nachtschatten> mentioned I downloaded the isos through the menu tab server
[12:51] <cfhowlett> Nachtschatten, see the server item:  http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/MD5SUMS
[12:52] <cfhowlett> you've a match for the 386 ISO
[12:53] <Nachtschatten> Then it isn't a bad image which is causing the installation to stop? ;o
[12:55] <cfhowlett> Nachtschatten, the download is good.  you might still verify your boot CDROM or USB ...
[12:57] <Svetroid> Would it be very difficult to multiboot 3 OSs if you already have a dual boot setup?
[12:57] <Bucky21659> depends, what do you want to add, Svetroid?
[12:59] <Svetroid> I was thinking some version of Mac, since I have w7 and ubuntu
[12:59] <djangoJunie> I tried installing ubuntu 13.10 on my new a4 400/gigbyte mb build total failure.
[12:59] <cfhowlett> Svetroid, and you're installing ON a mac?
[12:59] <djangoJunie> but I got this version 12.04 running dandy
[12:59] <Svetroid> No.
[12:59] <djangoJunie> my main machines are macs
[13:00] <cfhowlett> Svetroid, no support here for hackintosh ...
[13:00] <Svetroid> Really?
[13:00] <Svetroid> Why?
[13:00] <djangoJunie> I have an extra 2007 macbook I want to try to see if I can get ubuntu 13.10 running perfectly
[13:00] <cfhowlett> Svetroid, go to the hack resources - someone has tried what you're thinking
[13:00] <k1l_> !away > cmagina
[13:01] <djangoJunie> I think somebody private messaged me before I got logged off
[13:01] <cfhowlett> Svetroid, why?  for the same reason apple doesn't support hackintosh = not the mission.
[13:02] <djangoJunie> I really liked 13.10 a;lot but it was too buggy to function I dunno perhaps I botched the install but this version is almost worry free
[13:04] <Nachtschatten> the usb key doesn't seem to have the correct image, cfhowlett. What be the be
[13:05] <Nachtschatten> st method to write an image to an usb key?
[13:05] <cfhowlett> Nachtschatten, reburn it.  unetbootin is the usual alternate if ubuntu usb-creator doesnt't work
[13:06] <djangoJunie> I just burned a disc, seemed easier
[13:06] <jellow> Hi there I've been trying to free space , can I remove the packages without ruining my system http://paste.ubuntu.com/7189571/ , Ubuntu 13.10
[13:07] <zubuntu> hi
[13:07] <zubuntu> is there a tool to create bootable usb pen for 14.04 ?
[13:07] <zubuntu> using now 12.04
[13:07] <zubuntu> i need something like universal usb tool
[13:08] <cfhowlett> zubuntu, usb creator in ubuntu or unetbootin
[13:08] <zubuntu> thanks cfhowlett
[13:08] <zubuntu> is there option to test 14.04 without installing ?
[13:09] <Nachtschatten> lol, repeating yourself, cfhowlett ? =p
[13:09] <ihre> whats wrong with using dd for creating bootable iso's ?;o
[13:09] <cfhowlett> Nachtschatten, nope, just a common question
[13:09] <Hamaryns_> hi all, I am a somewhat experienced Linux user that recently switched from openSUSE to Ubuntu,. because I want to try it out.  I am setting up my new system and have some problems I’d like help with.  Here goes:
[13:10] <gavinwu> 有会说中文的吗
[13:10] <cfhowlett> !cn|gavinwu,
[13:10] <gavinwu> yes
[13:10] <zhangli> 我会
[13:10] <gavinwu> 。。。
[13:10] <Hamaryns_> I have an SSD and a legacy hard disk.  Ubuntu is installed on the SSD, and I want /home to be on the other disk.  The installer did not do that automatically.  How can I get this fixed?
[13:11] <cfhowlett> !home|Hamaryns_,
[13:12] <philinux> Hamaryns_;~ you could just use the legacy disk as a a data storage device.
[13:12] <Hamaryns_> thanks cfhowlett
[13:12] <Hamaryns_> !samba|Hamaryns
[13:16] <zubuntu> can i format usb pen with NTFS ?
[13:16] <zubuntu> in ubuntu ?
[13:17] <zubuntu> in my usb pen there is already ubuntu 12.04 installation
[13:17] <Wayward_Vagabond> zubuntu: gparted should be able to do it
[13:17] <zubuntu> how will i format it and create 14.04 beta2 bootable ?
[13:17] <Wayward_Vagabond> Oh, you want to keep it as fat32 then
[13:17] <ikonia> you don't use ntfs for that
[13:18] <ikonia> and 14.04 discussion is in #ubuntu+1 channel
[13:18] <jellow> hi there I'm about to run apt-get autoremove, are these libs save to remove http://paste.ubuntu.com/7189571/ , Thanks
[13:18] <zubuntu> yes ikonia  but how will i format usb pen now ?
[13:18] <ikonia> jellow: that's up to you
[13:18] <ikonia> zubuntu: what do you mean how will you format it ?
[13:19] <zubuntu> well to install 12.04 i created bootable usb pen earlier
[13:19] <zubuntu> and now i need to format it and create new one for 14.04
[13:19] <ikonia> zubuntu: right, so you need an active machine or bootable media to reformat it
[13:19] <zubuntu> yes ikonia  now i am on active 12.04 at the moment
[13:20] <ikonia> zubuntu: is that booted from the pen drive
[13:20] <zubuntu> no ikonia
[13:20] <philinux> zubuntu;~ just use the startup disk creator
[13:20] <zubuntu> it s already installed
[13:20] <ikonia> zubuntu: then use that to format the pendrive
[13:20] <zubuntu> i installed gparted
[13:20] <Guest55488> #ubuntu
[13:20] <philinux> zubuntu;~ no need to format the startup disk creator will sort it for you
[13:21] <zubuntu> philinux:  will i search in appstore ?
[13:21] <zubuntu> where is  startup disk creator ?
[13:21] <philinux> zubuntu;~ no Dash. just type in startup
[13:21] <zubuntu> i m on gnome interface philinux
[13:21] <zubuntu> not unity
[13:21] <ikonia> that seems unlikley
[13:22] <ikonia> as 12.04 ships with unity
[13:22] <`ryban> wb guys
[13:22] <philinux> zubuntu;~ ah ok it will be in the menu then
[13:22] <zubuntu> i made session fall back
[13:23] <sydneyJDykstra> Has anyone here tried upgrading ubuntu to lubuntu,without reinstalling?
[13:23] <zubuntu> found it
[13:23] <cfhowlett> sydneyJDykstra, easy!  sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[13:24] <slikts> does anyone here keep their ~/.cache on tmpfs?
[13:24] <zubuntu> it s creating
[13:24] <zubuntu> thank u philinux  :)
[13:24] <philinux> zubuntu;~ it will ask for your login password right at the end to install the bootloader to the usb
[13:25] <zubuntu> hm ok then
[13:25] <sydneyJDykstra> cfhowlett: No,I am running ubuntu 12.04 with lubuntu desktop,and I am wondering about upgrading to lubuntu trusty when it comes out.
[13:25] <zubuntu> so it s like gparted
[13:25] <zubuntu> happy to see such tool preinstalled
[13:26] <cfhowlett> sydneyJDykstra, LTS only in software settings will do 12.04 to 14.04
[13:27] <zubuntu> sydneyJDykstra: it will notice you when 14.04 ready to upgrade
[13:27] <sydneyJDykstra> cfhowlett:  Can I use a flah drive to do it?
[13:28] <cfhowlett> sydneyJDykstra, you just changed the question.  you said WITHOUT re-installing earlier, so why would you need USB?  direct upgrade 12.04 > 14.04.
[13:29] <sydneyJDykstra> cfhowlett:  I thought you can upgrade using a flash drive.
[13:29] <cfhowlett> sydneyJDykstra, that would be a reinstallation, not an upgrade
[13:30] <cfhowlett> sydneyJDykstra, yes you can install 14.04 with USB
[13:30]  * Yoshi2889 is doing so now :P
[13:30] <zubuntu> philinux: it asked password in 45% O.o
[13:31] <Yoshi2889> 14.04 is the first version that actually boots on my UEFI-based laptop, awesome.
[13:31] <bekks> !anyone | slikts
[13:31] <Yoshi2889> For some reason the installer does not detect Win8 though, is that a known bug?
[13:31] <slikts> bekks: eh
[13:31] <zubuntu> i hope they put new icons into 14.04 :/
[13:31] <bekks> slikts: whats the actual question behind that? :)
[13:32] <slikts> bekks: the question is whether it's a thing people do
[13:32] <bekks> slikts: so why do you want to know that?
[13:32] <slikts> bekks: I have an ssd and 16 gb of ram and I want to move things to tmpfs where possible
[13:32] <slikts> bekks: to reduce ssd wear
[13:32] <cfhowlett> !trim
[13:33] <slikts> bekks: already moved /tmp and /var/tmp and ~/.cache/google-chrome to tmpfs
[13:33] <Yoshi2889> I'm currently using Custom to choose custom partitioning. By Mount point on the free space I created, do I choose / to put everything on that partition?
[13:33] <bekks> slikts: Unless your ssd is about 10y old, you dont have to worry about ssd wearing.
[13:33] <cfhowlett> Yoshi2889, that is the normal
[13:34] <Yoshi2889> cfhowlett: What do you mean? Is it the default?
[13:34] <cfhowlett> Yoshi2889, not the default so much as the usual way people do it.  NOT the only way ...
[13:34] <slikts> bekks: I have even less to worry about when it comes to free ram
[13:35] <bekks> slikts: I dont get that context, sorry.
[13:35] <Yoshi2889> cfhowlett: Okay, so that should work fine? And would it be the only thing I'd need to create? Want to make sure before I do something stupid :P
[13:35] <slikts> bekks: tmpfs uses ram
[13:35] <cfhowlett> Yoshi2889, go for it ...
[13:36] <Yoshi2889> Awesome, lets go
[13:36] <icebox_> hey guys
[13:36] <Yoshi2889> Ah it mentions swap space
[13:36] <raub> Have a linux 12.04 desktop that is setup for kerberos auth
[13:36] <icebox_> can someone help me
[13:36] <snoooop> hi all,  I try to create a bootable USB installation on my ma rEFitcbook, can anybody point me to some instructions on how to do this? I don't have OSX installed so I can't install  rEFIt
[13:36] <raub> Usually can login fromthe gui and text console fine
[13:37] <cfhowlett> Yoshi2889, 2 times your ram ought to do it
[13:37] <icebox_> i have a lenovo thinpad with a smart card
[13:37] <icebox_> how can i run it
[13:37] <icebox_> on ubuntu
[13:37] <Yoshi2889> cfhowlett: I bet it would, 8GB and I never managed to get anywhere close to 6 on any Linux distro ;)
[13:37] <snoooop> * ma rEFitcbook    macbook   ,, sorry about that
[13:37] <cfhowlett> Yoshi2889, 8 gb of ram?
[13:37] <Yoshi2889> Yep
[13:37] <Yoshi2889> Unity is awesome with touch by the way
[13:38] <raub> after last reboot it is not showing a list of the kerberos/ldap users int he gui login screen but we can login as a kerberos user at the text login screen
[13:41] <Yoshi2889> Also, if on a laptop with Optimus and no Bumblebee is used, it will only use the Intel GPU right?
[13:41] <bekks> Yoshi2889: yes.
[13:41] <Yoshi2889> Awesome
[13:41] <Yoshi2889> Bumblebee is pretty crappy anyway last time I tried :P
[13:42] <Yoshi2889> Great effort, but I got 20 FPS in Minecraft whereas under Windows I get 200+
[13:42] <Yoshi2889> Hell the Intel GPU got 60
[13:42] <bekks> Yoshi2889: try using nvidia-prime then.
[13:42] <Yoshi2889> Nah I'll leave gaming to Windows for now. I heard Wayland will at least support Optimus, not sure what Mir will do but I guess it also will
[13:44] <cfhowlett> Yoshi2889, no mir before 2015
[13:44] <slikts> why mir over wayland in the first place?
[13:45] <Yoshi2889> slikts: I was wondering the same, though Canonical wants one display server for all their platforms (phone, tablet, desktop) I guess
[13:45] <Luyin> slikts: because Canonical is going its own way
[13:46] <Yoshi2889> Any advantages of using the Intel driver stack over the Linux stuff built-in to the kernel?
[13:49] <slikts> booting 13.10 is just so damn slow compared to windows, ubuntu always gets stuck in the login screen for a while before all the graphics are displayed
[13:49] <slikts> this is on a fast ssd
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> slikts: you cansay that about any 2 similar products
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> slikts: why Firefox over Chromium? Why Gedit over Mousepad?
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> slikts: its just how they want to go
[13:50] <UbOne> can i install gnome 3.12 in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> slikts: are you running a switchable GPU?
[13:50] <slikts> ActionParsnip: yeah well typically there are reasons even for choosing between similar products
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> UbOne: there is a PPA but its not supported here
[13:50] <slikts> ActionParsnip: what's a switchable gpu? I have crossfirex with proprietary drtivers
[13:50] <Yoshi2889> UbOne: http://askubuntu.com/questions/439641/how-do-i-install-gnome-3-12-on-saucy13-10 < second result on Google
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> slikts: maybe its the proprietary drive loading slowly causing the hang....
[13:51] <slikts> ActionParsnip: could be, but the open source driver made my gpu howl like mad and show high temps
[13:51] <Yoshi2889> slikts: Switchable means that the system is able to jump from one GPU to the other, commonly found in laptops
[13:52] <slikts> ActionParsnip: my pc sounded like a vacuum after installing ubuntu until I changed the drivers
[13:55] <slikts> it's not like they're even just choosing between products, but they're developing mir
[13:55] <raub> How can I find out the configuration for the login manager, specifically what it is using to lookup network users?
[13:55] <slikts> making the question about motivation even more pertinent
[13:56] <slikts> I could give a very detailed why I choose the browser that I do over alternatives for everyday use
[13:56] <Yoshi2889> Huh, Software & Updates still shows my GT 750M though it runs on Haswell graphics according to the Details pane
[13:56] <Yoshi2889> Says it uses Nouveau
[14:05] <zubuntu> h'
[14:05] <zubuntu> hi
[14:05] <zubuntu> what s the gnome session fall back command for 14.04 _
[14:05] <zubuntu> ?
[14:05] <snoooop_> I can't boot from the usb installer I created using "startup disk creator". Also I can't figure out how to inspect if my USB disk are OK.  then I run "mount" the disk have the path "/dev/sdb1 on /media/docker/43E3-B6E0"  . Is that right ?
[14:07] <zubuntu> hello _
[14:07] <zubuntu> ?
[14:07] <snoooop_> zubuntu, hi
[14:08] <zubuntu> i wanna try classic gnome look in 14.04 beta2
[14:08] <zubuntu> how can i install it _
[14:08] <zubuntu> ?
[14:08] <Yoshi2889> zubuntu: Do  you mean GNOME 2 or 3?
[14:09] <zubuntu> yes Yoshi2889
[14:09] <Dev1L> I'm running Linux Mint 16 and I have a proglem using LG 22" monitor
[14:09] <Dev1L> I see it under displays but there's no picture
[14:09] <Yoshi2889> zubuntu: Which?
[14:09] <Dev1L> source on monitor is correct
[14:09] <DJones> !mint | Dev1L
[14:09] <zubuntu> Yoshi2889:  i want top and bottom bar
[14:09] <Dev1L> ah, roger
[14:09] <Dev1L> thanks
[14:09] <zubuntu> i think it s 3
[14:09] <Yoshi2889> zubuntu: So 2
[14:09] <zubuntu> i am confused
[14:09] <Yoshi2889> Closest you can get is using MATE IIRC
[14:09] <zubuntu> what s the difference ?
[14:09] <zubuntu> i dont want mate
[14:10] <Yoshi2889> GNOME 2 is not officially supported anymore
[14:10] <zubuntu> i want gnome fall back session
[14:10] <Yoshi2889> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MATE_1.6_on-Debian-Wheezy.png
[14:10] <Yoshi2889> What's wrong with Mate, it achieves the same?
[14:10] <zubuntu> this unity shit making the screen narrower
[14:10] <zubuntu> i dont like to see it
[14:11] <Yoshi2889> You might want to set your screen resolution correct then
[14:11] <zubuntu> i like ambiance theme
[14:11] <hmuller> I have been having problem with DNS resolution on 12.04 install for awhile, it is a standard install on laptop. Any clues?
[14:11] <zubuntu> Yoshi2889:  really it s annoying to see the unity at left
[14:11] <snoooop_> also then I inspect the USB disk in gpared I have two partitions, One fat32 and one 2mb unallocated. Is that normal ?
[14:12] <zubuntu> i was able to use gnome fallback with 12.04 so what s the new command with 14.04 ?
[14:12] <Yoshi2889> zubuntu: Then install MATE, and set the theme to Ambiance
[14:12] <Yoshi2889> zubuntu: 14.04 does not have a fallback mode
[14:12] <zubuntu> whyy ??
[14:12] <zubuntu> grrrrrr
[14:12] <dw1> gnome-desktop ?
[14:12] <zubuntu> why not ?
[14:12] <zubuntu> yes dw1
[14:13] <zubuntu> why does ubuntu make so sharp changes ?S
[14:13] <Yoshi2889> gnome-desktop installs version 3.10
[14:13] <Yoshi2889> It's a bit heavy for when you only want the fallback mode
[14:13] <dw1> hmm
[14:13] <Yoshi2889> zubuntu: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/how-to-install-mate-18-in-ubuntu.html
[14:13] <dw1> im on gnome-session-fallback on 13.10
[14:13] <hmuller> Anyone know why 12.04 has DNS resolution problems?
[14:14] <Yoshi2889> Just go with that, it's next to the same as GNOME 2
[14:14] <zubuntu> i want this
[14:14] <zubuntu> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6Ozgy2tQQdA/T75bOpIlktI/AAAAAAAAJAs/xxh_q7MMX64/s1600/ambiance-fixed-gnome-classic.png
[14:14] <zubuntu> not MATE ?s
[14:14] <mistawright> is there an easy way to find a list of all svn users?
[14:14] <slikts> f***** me, I was happy for a while after coming back to ubuntu, but now my chrome keeps becoming unresponsive, it either loads pages endlessly or doesn't let me scroll the pages or do anything
[14:14] <dw1> so im on gnome 2 then ?
[14:14] <zubuntu> dw1:  how about on 14.04 ?
[14:14] <Yoshi2889> zubuntu: If you only look at that page, the *first* screenshot shows theming.
[14:14] <dw1> zubuntu: dont know yet im just learning with you :P
[14:14] <slikts> it's unusable
[14:14] <Yoshi2889> dw1: You're installing a lot of stuff you don't need then.
[14:14] <slikts> `killall chrome` doesn't fix it
[14:15] <Yoshi2889> That reminds me, install chrome
[14:15] <zubuntu> i want to report about gnome to ubuntu developer team
[14:15] <slikts> firefox is freezing as well
[14:15] <Yoshi2889> zubuntu: Don't bother, they removed it on purpose
[14:15] <zubuntu> why do they force us to use unity ??
[14:15] <Yoshi2889> They don't
[14:16] <zubuntu> i dont wanna use unity
[14:16] <Yoshi2889> You're free to use any DE available
[14:16] <zubuntu> i mean that silly dash bar
[14:16] <hmuller> Slikts, are you losing internet connection?
[14:16] <slikts> hmuller: no
[14:16] <dw1> so apparently im on gnome 3 then.. so just gnome-desktop in 14.04 then will be the same?
[14:16] <zubuntu> give me the smooth desktop with top and bottom bars like old days
[14:16] <Yoshi2889> dw1: gnome-desktop will pull in 13.10
[14:16] <Yoshi2889> derp
[14:16] <Yoshi2889> 3.12
[14:16] <slikts> hmuller: that wouldn't explain why the browser itself is becoming unresponsive, and why it loads without timing out
[14:16] <Yoshi2889> derp x2
[14:16] <Yoshi2889> 3.10 :D
[14:16] <dw1> sounds fine
[14:16] <zubuntu> dw1:   do u know session fallback command ?
[14:17] <dw1> im already using 3 so
[14:17] <zubuntu> or flashback
[14:17] <zubuntu> whatever
[14:17] <hmuller> Different issue than me then, I keep losing ability to resolve addresses
[14:17] <Yoshi2889> zubuntu: You can install gnome-shell, but you're pulling in a lot of stuff you don't need
[14:17] <slikts> so I've spent a day and a half setting up this os only to find out that it's unusable
[14:18] <dw1> Yoshi2889: why do you prefer gnome 2 over 3
[14:18] <Yoshi2889> Ah damn, Chrome doesn't install on 14.04
[14:18] <Yoshi2889> dw1: I don't :P
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> zubuntu: install xfce, lxde or kde and you will probably have a smoother OS :)
[14:18] <Yoshi2889> I prefer 3 over 2
[14:18] <dw1> Yoshi2889: why mate over gnome-desktop then
[14:18] <Yoshi2889> ActionParsnip: He doesn't want to
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> Yoshi2889: did for me...
[14:18] <hmuller> Which version did you install slikts?
[14:18] <zubuntu> i want ubuntu with top and bottom bars
[14:18] <Yoshi2889> dw1: I don't prefer Mate either :P
[14:18] <zubuntu> i just want that
[14:18] <slikts> hmuller: 13.10
[14:18] <Yoshi2889> I prefer Pantheon from elementaryOS, but they're using old backbones
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> zubuntu: or install gnome-panel and log i to the new session, Cinammon is also availabel in the official repos
[14:19] <Yoshi2889> Kernel 3.2 IIRC
[14:19] <dw1> zubuntu: just install gnome-desktop for gnome 3 then imo :p
[14:19] <hmuller> Yeah, I didn't like that version, too buggy
[14:19] <zubuntu> also i love ambiance theme
[14:19] <zubuntu> dw1:  give me the command
[14:19] <dw1> zubuntu: i dont know what im doing tho i dont run 14.04
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> zubuntu: nobody is forcing you to use Unity...
[14:19] <zubuntu> is that too hard to remove dash and put top and bottom bar ???
[14:19] <UbOne> zubuntu: how about - auto hide left-bar from appearance-behavior and install cairo-dock
[14:20] <zubuntu> ActionParsnip:  they do actually
[14:20] <slikts> hmuller: I guess I'll downgrade to 12.04 if this persists
[14:20] <Yoshi2889> zubuntu: No need to get demanding, install either GNOME 3 and cope with having extra crap on your system or install MATE/Cinnamon/XFCE and get a similar experience
[14:20] <zubuntu> i dont want any dock
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> zubuntu: no they don't I dont even have compiz on my system, no Unity, no gnome
[14:20] <zubuntu> Yoshi2889:  that s what i mean
[14:20] <hmuller> That would be my recommendation
[14:20] <slikts> zubuntu: your mom wants dock
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> zubuntu: install gnome-panel, log off, log in to the new session
[14:20] <zubuntu> they force us to install unnecessary stuffs because they removed the best look ever
[14:20] <Yoshi2889> zubuntu: No, they moved on
[14:21] <zubuntu> slikts: watch your mouth !
[14:21] <zubuntu> u f.cking idiot !
[14:21] <dw1> zubuntu: there are many desktop styles just have to pick and use
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> zubuntu: no they don't. Only if you install teh default Ubuntu, you will get all the fluff and stuff they bundle. This happens in any OS you can name
[14:21] <zubuntu> is there an op here ?
[14:21] <DJones> zubuntu: Please stop swearing
[14:21] <hmuller> What's the status of 14.04? Usable yet?
[14:21] <zubuntu> DJones:  look what he said !
[14:21] <Yoshi2889> hmuller: Running it here, seems stable enough
[14:22] <zubuntu> [14:20] <slikts> zubuntu: your mom wants dock
[14:22] <slikts> Yoshi2889: are you running the daily build?
[14:22] <zubuntu> ban this a..hole
[14:22] <Yoshi2889> slikts: I grabbed Beta 2 and updated it
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> zubuntu: install xfce4, log off and use XFE, it is GTK based so will install very little, uses fewer resources than the default Unity session and doesn't use Unity
[14:22] <Yoshi2889> My VM runs a daily build and updated today, still workin
[14:22] <Yoshi2889> *working
[14:22] <hmuller> Yoshi2889, recommend it over 12.04?
[14:22] <Yoshi2889> hmuller: Definitely
[14:23] <Suppa|Werk> hi
[14:23] <hmuller> Thx
[14:23] <Yoshi2889> Not as LTS yet (wait till stable) but it's definitely an upgrade over 12.04
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> hmuller: 12.04 is great :)
[14:23] <slikts> Yoshi2889: do you think upgrading from 13.10 could work?
[14:23] <Yoshi2889> Does anyone know if there is like an "Open terminal here" extension for Nautilus?
[14:23] <Yoshi2889> slikts: No idea, I guess it should
[14:23] <Hamaryns_> hi all, since last upgrade to Ubuntu, I get the error message no mycroft.mozdev.org that openSearch plugins are not supported?  What is wrong?
[14:24] <hmuller> No, I wasn't happy with 13.10
[14:24] <Hamaryns_> (in Firefox that is)
[14:24] <dwr> I am having issues with the BADSIG
[14:24] <dwr> Anyone know how to fix it?
[14:24] <zubuntu> is there an op here ????
[14:24] <hmuller> And 12.04 has consistent DNS resolution problems
[14:24] <UbOne> Hamaryns_: new ff does not suppors the plugin, probably
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> zubuntu: ops are in the channel, yes
[14:25] <dwr> Hash Sum mismatch
[14:25] <zubuntu> so why are they just watching some idiots insulting ????
[14:25] <Yoshi2889> Ah great, nautilus-open-terminal package works
[14:25] <slikts> zubuntu is a man on a mission
[14:25] <dwr> This is on 13.10
[14:25] <zubuntu> shut the f.ck up slikts
[14:25] <Yoshi2889> zubuntu: Probably because they have better things to do
[14:25] <Yoshi2889> Thank you
[14:26] <zubuntu> hey
[14:26] <zubuntu> first kick him and then me ok?
[14:26] <zubuntu> be fair
[14:26] <UbOne> slikts is not having a pms
[14:26] <Yoshi2889> Huh, installing Chrome through dpkg works
[14:27] <DJones> Time to move on and get back to support issues
[14:27] <zubuntu> UbOne:   he insulted dont protect him understand ??
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> Yoshi2889: isnt that how it's installed?
[14:27] <xro> Hi, i just upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04... all works well but i have log in 2 times... Is it a known issue?
[14:27] <Yoshi2889> ActionParsnip: The Software Centre gave me an error
[14:27] <Yoshi2889> Dpkg installs it just fine
[14:27] <dwr> I am having issues with update manager.
[14:27] <zubuntu> now who will give me session fallback command for terminal ?
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> xro: 14.04 is only supported in #ubuntu+1 til release day
[14:27] <dwr> BADSIG
[14:28] <slikts> here goes nothing, doing an in-place upgrade to 14.04
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Yoshi2889: software centre is rubbish imho
[14:28] <Yoshi2889> ActionParsnip: Yeah, prefer Synaptic. Still need to install it though, too lazy to do now
[14:28] <slikts> hah, the upgrade ended with a python error
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> dwr: can you give the full output of:  sudo apt-get update; lsb_release -a    use a pastebin like http://pastie.org to host the output
[14:28] <slikts> OSError: Can not execute '/tmp/ubuntu-release-upgrader-8mgbdx/trusty'
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Yoshi2889: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[14:28] <Yoshi2889> Ah crap Ubuntu updated PHP to 5.5 :|
[14:28] <Yoshi2889> ActionParsnip: That's what I did :P
[14:29] <xro> ActionParsnip, ok sorry!
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> Yoshi2889: is how I install all debs, the text in the terminal is useful compared to the GUI tools which hide all the detail from you, not very good
[14:29] <Yoshi2889> Yeah
[14:33] <UbOne> *wishes ubuntu was less heavy on cpu
[14:33] <Yoshi2889> UbOne: No issues here
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> UbOne: use LXDE, or ditch DEs altogether and use Openbox or Fluxbox on its own as standalone WM
[14:34] <dw1> My biggest prob with ubuntu is this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/159356 where it essentially freezes when memory fills up
[14:34] <shubhamjain> After installing cinnamon, FF became http://i.stack.imgur.com/2MteJ.png.
[14:34] <dw1> disabling encrypted swap didnt help
[14:35] <Yoshi2889> shubhamjain: looks like missing fonts or something
[14:35] <dw1> buying more ram helps a bit, but youtube commonly causes a freeze if i watch too many vids
[14:36]  * Yoshi2889 wishes the terminal was more readable, especially with apt
[14:36] <Yoshi2889> Yum is only so much more readable
[14:37] <zubuntu> slikts:  i installed new bigger dock for your mom do u wanna see it ?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> Yoshi2889: if you use terminal a lot, I recommend guake
[14:37] <hoihe> Can someone help me connect my Sony Xperia J's storage to my Ubuntu 12.04 PC? Using the USB cable, the PC does not seem to recognise the phone being connected, while the phone does recognise the presence of the PC.
[14:38] <Yoshi2889> ActionParsnip: Thanks, though I prefer having standard terminal windows :)
[14:38] <hoihe> I've tried using gMPT, but it freezes upon hitting "connect"
[14:38] <hoihe> Does anyone know what the issue might be, or perhaps a workaround for putting my files on the phone?
[14:39] <Yoshi2889> Putting files on  your phone can be done with adb if you're up for that challenge
[14:39] <hoihe> adb?
[14:40] <Yoshi2889> Reminds me I also need to set that up, since Windows 8.1 has no good HTC drivers
[14:40] <Yoshi2889> Android Developer Bridge
[14:40] <Yoshi2889> or Development
[14:40] <Yoshi2889> In a terminal, issuing "adb push MyFiles.zip /sdcard" will put the file on your SD card, if properly configured
[14:42] <Yoshi2889> My phone with MTP works fine though
[14:42] <Yoshi2889> You sure you have your phone enabled for data transfer @ hoihe
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> Yoshi2889: it iuses the same terminal, it just hides and shows on keypress :)
[14:45] <sydneyJDykstra> Why is it that whenever i try to boot ubuntu trusty from a CD, it shows a blank screen. I have it set correct in the BIOS,because it starts to boot from it.
[14:45] <hoihe> Got the PC companion thingy to appear, so apparently the computer does detect my phone, it just won't mount...
[14:45] <Yoshi2889> sydneyJDykstra: What's your GPU?
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> sydneyJDykstra: trusty support is in #ubuntu+1 until release day
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> Yoshi2889: ^
[14:45] <Yoshi2889> hoihe: No notification on your phone?
[14:46] <Yoshi2889> ActionParsnip: Who says it's trusty?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Yoshi2889: "i try to boot ubuntu trusty from a CD"
[14:46] <fijal> hi
[14:46] <DJones> Yoshi2889: It was in the question
[14:46] <fijal> how do I disable apport-python-hook
[14:46] <Yoshi2889> Woops
[14:46] <fijal> ?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Yoshi2889: clear as day
[14:46] <Yoshi2889> Sorry, my eyes are going backwards :P
[14:46] <slikts> more like crusty
[14:47] <sydneyJDykstra> ActionParsnip: I am not sure of that. I am running 12.04 right now,and the bootable flash drive will work on other computers.
[14:47] <Yoshi2889> ActionParsnip: Guake won't start
[14:47] <flashstrong> hola
[14:48] <sydneyJDykstra> ActionParsnip: I will ask on #ubuntu+1
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> Yoshi2889: press ALT+F2 and run it, then use F12 by default to hide and show it
[14:49] <Yoshi2889> Oh on third attempt of running it it works lol
[14:54] <Yoshi2889> "Create new Steam library on drive /boot/efi" Sounds like an awesome idea to me :D
[14:55] <tucemiux> is it out yet?
[14:56] <Yoshi2889> 14.04?
[14:56] <tucemiux> yes!
[14:56] <cfhowlett> tucemiux, no
[14:56] <Yoshi2889> Available as betas, yes. Officially finished, now
[14:56] <Yoshi2889> *no
[14:56] <Artemis3> 17
[14:56] <Artemis3> april 17
[14:56] <magico> hello how can install Development Tools ?
[14:56] <magico> ?
[14:56] <keonjeo>  止
[14:56] <tucemiux> how long before it gets released? o.O
[14:57] <magico> i have ubuntu 12 10
[14:57] <Yoshi2889> tucemiux: april 17
[14:57] <Yoshi2889> 16 days
[14:57] <tucemiux> 12.10?!?  you're missing out buddy
[14:57] <Yoshi2889> magico: What development tools?
[14:57] <daftykins> tucemiux: you'd know if it were out 'cause there'd be me over in that corner there stuffing my face with the cake
[14:57] <Artemis3> i suggest you stick to 12.04 if you need older version
[14:57] <tucemiux> Yoshi2889, thanks, I'll start my own countdown!
[14:57] <magico> Yoshi2889 standard the essential
[14:57] <tucemiux> Yoshi2889, oh wait, april 17 greenwich time?
[14:58] <Artemis3> likely
[14:58] <magico> tucemiux hoe i can make ?
[14:58] <magico> *how
[14:58] <Yoshi2889> magico: Well there are more tools available depending on what language you want to develop in
[14:58] <novochar> I have a service that I've created, but I don't want to continue to do /etc/init.d/myService start or service myService start each time I want to use it, I'd like it to start upon booting the machine. How do you make services which start upon booting a machine?
[14:58] <magico> Yoshi2889 en
[14:58] <magico> or it
[14:59] <Yoshi2889> magico: That's not what I mean :P
[14:59] <Artemis3> package build-essential ?
[14:59] <tucemiux> magico, you can either upgrade or do a fresh install, if you want to stick with an old distribution I would stay with 12.04 like Artemis3 sez
[14:59] <magico> i have solved
[14:59] <Yoshi2889> novochar: http://askubuntu.com/questions/9382/how-can-i-configure-a-service-to-run-at-startup
[15:00] <novochar> Thank you Yoshi2889!
[15:00] <Yoshi2889> :)
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> Yoshi2889: what do you reckon to guake?
[15:01] <Yoshi2889> ActionParsnip: Not sure, seems nice
[15:01] <Yoshi2889> Though I bet I'll forget about it :P
[15:02] <johan___1> Nick AudioMatic
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> Yoshi2889: no hunting around for the teminal window, just show and hide as needed :)
[15:02] <Yoshi2889> Yeah that seems nice
[15:02] <Yoshi2889> I'll try to make it my habit :P
[15:02] <Yoshi2889> Does not solve the problem that apt output is unreadable to say the least
[15:03] <Yoshi2889> Ah aptitude, that was the alternative I was hunting for
[15:03] <Yoshi2889> And again I wanted to launch a new terminal instance :D
[15:32] <marco__> ciao
[15:32] <marco__> !list
[15:38] <idimmu> o
[15:38] <idimmu> m
[15:38] <idimmu> g
[15:41] <Night-hacks> how can i set my tor socks proxy to bash ?
[15:41] <Night-hacks> without any other software
[15:43] <OerHeks> Night-hacks, maybe this answer is any help >> http://askubuntu.com/a/252169
[15:45] <fa7ad> how do i configure hostapd on broadcom 43225. what should i enter in the driver= value in the configuration value
[15:46] <daftykins> fa7ad: run "lsmod | grep 80211" to see which driver is in use i think
[15:48] <Munster> o/
[15:51] <eltigre> I had a stupid idea about fundraising for gooseberry... let's create a competition for video clips of rendered cloth-simulated Blender logo flags at well known places (tracked) and then edit the best into a fundraising video
[15:52] <daftykins> eltigre: sliiiightly wrong channel? :)
[16:04] <dupingping> Hi
[16:04] <dupingping> I have a question/
[16:04] <dupingping> How to get alien debian package for Ubuntu9.04 or Ubuntu8.04?
[16:05] <bekks> dupingping: Uhm. Both ar end of support already.
[16:05] <dupingping> bekks: Hi
[16:05] <dupingping> bekks: I don't need all packages for 8.04, 9.04. Only one,
[16:06] <daftykins> still, it's old and dead
[16:06] <daftykins> so - game over
[16:06] <bekks> dupingping: all packages for 8.04 and 9.04 are end of support.
[16:06] <dupingping> bekks: only one is alien.
[16:06] <g1_> daftykins, hi!
[16:06] <bekks> dupingping: Use a supported release please.
[16:06] <dupingping> bekks: I know, too.
[16:06] <dupingping> bekks: But I need to get only one, alien.
[16:07] <bekks> dupingping: Again: all packages for 8.04 and 9.04 are end of support.
[16:07] <bekks> dupingping: Use a supported release please.
[16:07] <dupingping> bekks: Do you know deprecated url about 9.04, 8.04?
[16:07] <dupingping> bekks: I am using it, Now
[16:07] <bekks> dupingping: then update, now.
[16:08] <afulg3ns> I have a question about l2tp vpn connections, can someone point me to the right channel?
[16:08] <bekks> dupingping: you wont get any support for end-of-support releases anymore.
[16:08] <dupingping> bekks: Your mean?
[16:08] <bekks> dupingping: you have to use a supported release.
[16:08] <dupingping> bekks: It's all died on www?
[16:09] <bekks> dupingping: It isnt supported anymore.
[16:09] <dupingping> bekks: OK. I understood. Thank you for your long time.
[16:09] <jamesUSMC> anyone know how i can get a fat32 usb hard drive to recognize? it says Error mounting /dev/sdc2 at /media/james/fat my book: Command-line `mount -t "exfat" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid" "/dev/sdc2" "/media/james/fat my book"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: unknown filesystem type 'exfat'
[16:09] <bekks> jamesUSMC: fat32 isnt exfat.
[16:10] <ballPointPenguin> Anyone put 14.04 on a Macbook Pro retina yet?
[16:10] <ballPointPenguin> Thinking of test-driving that today.
[16:11] <ballPointPenguin> Any info or related posts on 14.04 + Macbook would be appreciated
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> ballPointPenguin: ask in #ubuntu+1 for 14.04 support and discussion
[16:14] <ballPointPenguin> thx
[16:16] <Albright> What’s the equivalent to the “wheel” group under BSD? Is it “admin?”
[16:20] <jpds> Albright: sudo.
[16:21] <AlexByasse> Could someone tell me why on linux when watching online videos not youtube, when you skip ahead the video stops but you can hear the audio???
[16:21] <AlexByasse> And how can I fix it???
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> AlexByasse: not had that issue. What is the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> AlexByasse: use a pastebin like http://pastie.org to hold the output
[16:23] <Albright> jpds: Thanks, I’ll try that.
[16:27] <AlexByasse> do I just paste the pastie link like : http://pastie.org/8986176
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> AlexByasse: mint isnt supported here. It has its own support IRC channel
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> !mint
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> AlexByasse: that is the IRC channel and server for mint, not here
[16:29] <AlexByasse> Ive tried 4 distros: Ubuntu, Fedora, Arch and now Mint, same problem
[16:34] <hansford> can someone help me....I am using a dark theme here  and everything is fine until I go to facebook...and cant see what the hell I am typing
[16:34] <bekks> hansford: then use another theme.
[16:37] <OperaGhostkv> Because What you type is black
[16:38] <OperaGhostkv> the background color is black too
[16:38] <red234324> hi all, what is the correct /tmp chmod and ownership? I got root:root + 777 - can someone check theirs please and say if it is the same?
[16:40] <jaime> hola
[16:40] <red234324> lampp failing to start outputting message "is /tmp writable?" which is why I am asking
[16:41] <k1l_> red234324: did you install that xampp bunch? or did you use the ubuntu packages from the ubunut repo?
[16:41] <OperaGhostkv> thereis no "correct "
[16:42] <red234324> k1l_, xampp
[16:42] <k1l_> !xampp | red234324
[16:42] <k1l_> ubuntu ships all, and xampp makes a lot of problems. (besides that security issues)
[16:43] <red234324> OK but can you check your /tmp just so i get a sanity check?
[16:44] <k1l_> red234324: your /tmp is not the problem
[16:44] <k1l_> that looks good
[16:44] <coxart> need help to install openshot after "remove —purge openshot" and "phython-mlt3" and reinstall both nothing is happen system uptodate OS xubuntu…openshot is always installed and phython packets, no idea what the problem is…may iam not a Nerd…
[16:46] <red234324> Well I have used xampp before with no problem, only big change I have made since is to move /tmp into ram, maybe a ctrl-z on that will fix it.
[16:46] <Guest55668>  coxart: apt-get install -f  openshot phython-mlt3
[16:46] <coxart> done ^^
[16:46] <coxart> oh stop not
[16:46] <coxart> what means -f
[16:47] <RFleming> Greetings!
[16:47] <willwh> coxart - force
[16:47] <coxart> i try this@guest
[16:47] <coxart> and willwh
[16:47] <RFleming> How does one change the likewise-open5 home directory?
[16:47] <Guest55668> coxart: what is terurn from apt
[16:47] <Guest55668> coxart: what is return from apt
[16:48] <coxart> if packege istall always …done
[16:48] <coxart> no failures
[16:48] <Guest55668> coxart: all ok@
[16:48] <coxart> only openshot say phython ist the prob
[16:49] <Guest55668> coxart: @
[16:49] <Guest55668>  coxar: apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[16:50] <red234324> ok did undo on /tmp to ram, rebooting to see if that fixes it
[16:50] <johnson24x7> hi
[16:51] <coxart> reinstall openshot and phython-lt3…?
[16:51] <bipul> Any C programmer here?
[16:51] <RFleming> any likewise-open5 people in here?
[16:54] <coxart> @Guest55668 second my sister will try it
[16:54] <Pici> bipul: try ##c
[16:56] <Guest55668>  coxar: yes bouth 2 packages
[16:56] <coxart> k
[16:56] <Guest55668>  coxar: and apt-get check
[16:57] <coxart> he want autoremove packeages so she must di this?
[16:57] <coxart> do*
[16:57] <Guest55668>  coxar: yes
[16:58] <Guest55668>  coxar: that will clean the mess, so You can start from clena install
[16:59] <coxart> after this openshot will run…in most case?
[16:59] <coxart> ^^
[16:59] <yura> Forward32
[16:59] <yura> hello
[16:59] <Guest55668>  coxar: yes 90%
[17:00] <k1l> !away > bfiller_afk
[17:03] <coxart> ...
[17:03] <Guest55668>  coxar: what hapend?
[17:03] <coxart> Erro2….can i send pictures?
[17:03] <coxart> +r
[17:04] <coxart> 445ED18E-5F0D-49FA-9363-2B332B4C2A8A-12570-0007A4AD832CB8FD
[17:04] <coxart> hmm
[17:05] <coxart> als list of some codecs....
[17:05] <LrdArc> how can I download .avi instead of playing it from browser?
[17:05] <cfhowlett> LrdArc, firefox add-ons include video downloaders
[17:05] <Guest55668>  coxar: codecs?
[17:05] <coxart> The Error2 "Failed to import´fromopenshot.openshot import main´
[17:05] <awaad> When I check total memory in /proc/meminfo, I get "17364272" which means "16.559860229". How can I get accurate memory size?
[17:05] <coxart> the codecs he use
[17:05] <coxart> rm, sox voc, tc
[17:06] <coxart> etc
[17:06] <LrdArc> cfhowlett: ok, i'll try
[17:06] <coxart> Error Message: noneType object has not attribute ´set_cursor´
[17:07] <Guest55668>  coxar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2081636
[17:07] <coxart> i know have this done before i ask here ^^
[17:08] <ole_oz7t> n
[17:08] <awaad> When I check total memory in /proc/meminfo, I get "17364272" which means "16.559860229". How can I get accurate memory size?
[17:09] <coxart> everytime the same issue
[17:09] <coxart> my sister have actually no just to solve this -.-
[17:10] <coxart> thnx 4 your time and help
[17:10] <guest-xLK0XG> How may one manually issue an acpi display backlight command?
[17:10] <coxart> @Guest55668
[17:10] <Guest55668>  coxar: Np, You wellkome
[17:11] <guest-xLK0XG> The backlight isn't working.
[17:12] <coxart> @Guest55668: http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3579/ltqp79me_jpg.htm
[17:12] <coxart> screenshot
[17:12] <guest-xLK0XG> It is hard to get the proper angle on frontlighting.
[17:12] <pycoderf> Anyone with ltsp experience? I have a major issue and #ltsp seems dead.
[17:13] <coxart> risky
[17:13] <cfhowlett> pycoderf, more likely that someone in #ubuntu-server has done LTSP
[17:13] <guest-xLK0XG> How may one manually issue an acpi display backlight command?
[17:13] <Agent_Smith_BR> hill all
[17:14] <guest-xLK0XG> angelo
[17:14] <Agent_Smith_BR> I'm trying to find a package which contains the file libdb2.so.1, there is no oficial package
[17:15] <Agent_Smith_BR> this is a driver to connect on IBM DB2 databases
[17:15] <Agent_Smith_BR> I've tried to find something on IBM sites but no lucky
[17:15] <Agent_Smith_BR> any tip where I can find a package that's contain libdb2.so.1?
[17:15] <Guest55668>  coxar: sec
[17:17] <Guest55668>  coxar: its a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openshot/+bug/914013
[17:18] <Guest55668>  coxar: confirmed, will be time need for solution
[17:18] <coxart> uh…but ists a old bug
[17:18] <Guest55668>  coxar: reinstall system, there will be new xubuntu
[17:18] <Guest55668>  coxar: :)
[17:18] <coxart> jepp
[17:19] <guest-xLK0XG> angelo
[17:19] <coxart> cya bb
[17:19] <Guest55668>  coxar: BB
[17:20] <guest-xLK0XG> bb
[17:21] <ole_oz7t> test from ubuntu ti windows
[17:21] <ole_oz7t> working
[17:21] <guest-xLK0XG> Want to come over for supper?
[17:22] <k1l> !ot | guest-xLK0XG
[17:22] <Guest55668> !guidelines
[17:22] <Realgamer> Someone knows a fix dor a not starting lightdm?^^
[17:22] <guest-xLK0XG> How may one manually issue an acpi display backlight command?
[17:23] <guest-xLK0XG> Realgamer, press onebutan
[17:23] <Realgamer> what :D
[17:23] <k1l> Realgamer: depends on the problem
[17:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Realgamer: [ sudo scream at lightdm ]
[17:23] <Realgamer> first appeared after a new nvidia driver
[17:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Realgamer: (April Fool!) Really, though, try [ sudo start lightdm ]
[17:24] <k1l> Realgamer: where is the driver from? nvidia website?
[17:24] <Realgamer> yes
[17:24] <k1l> Realgamer: bad idea. remove that and use the ubuntu one
[17:24] <Guest55668> guest-xLK0XG: http://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/09/ubuntu-12-04-resetting-your-displays-brightness-levels-fix/
[17:24] <Realgamer> wanted it for steam but hmm
[17:24] <Realgamer> how to remove?
[17:25] <Realgamer> brb connecting with another client so that i can boot ubuntu
[17:26] <Realgamer> back
[17:29] <guest-xLK0XG> Guest55668, checking that for clues
[17:30] <Realgamer> im under Ubuntu right now
[17:30] <Realgamer> at the terminal
[17:30] <Realgamer> how to uninstall the nvidia driver^^
[17:30] <guest-xLK0XG> !nick @ Guest55668
[17:31] <guest-xLK0XG> !nick @ Guest55668
[17:31] <guest-xLK0XG> !register @ Guest55668
[17:32] <ole_oz6oh> hello all Where can i get  help with my miro in ubuntu 13.10 ?
[17:32] <cfhowlett> ole_oz6oh, you can ask here but you will probably get better results from miro support
[17:33] <ole_oz6oh> cfhowlet ok  the problem is: I can download music but not vidio fro pirat
[17:33] <guest-xLK0XG> how can one blow his mind out in a car?
[17:34] <guest-xLK0XG> the anomy
[17:34] <cfhowlett> guest-xLK0XG, completely offtopic for this channel
[17:34] <guest-xLK0XG> I must unite x86
[17:35] <ole_oz6oh> cfhowlet i try support b miro
[17:35] <guest-xLK0XG> Unite all x86 to blow other cpus
[17:36] <cfhowlett> ole_oz6oh, you can get NO videos??
[17:36] <cfhowlett> try a different source
[17:36] <justaguy> Turns out dumb justaguy installed http://ubuntu.mirrors.skynet.be/pub/ubuntu.com/releases//trusty/ubuntu-14.04-beta2-desktop-amd64+mac.iso on an acer
[17:37] <justaguy> that iso is special and optimized for a mac computer
[17:37] <ole_oz6oh> i can download but whwn download is finish miro dele the download
[17:37] <justaguy> i downloaded the wrong one and installed it on an acer, will this bring any problems?
[17:37] <k1l> justaguy: no, just get a not-mac one and install that
[17:37] <justaguy> k1l: i already installed the mac one :/
[17:37] <cfhowlett> ole_oz6oh, best you ask miro for expert advice on their app
[17:37] <Guest55668> bye for al
[17:38] <justaguy> but i have not got any problems yet
[17:38] <ole_oz6oh> cfhowlett ok thanks
[17:38] <luc4> Hello! I’m buying a new pc where I’ll install Linux. I’ve been told that new computers that features TPM can make it difficult to install Linux. Is this correct? How can I ensure before I buy if Linux will be ok?
[17:39] <ice9> is there a way to run an app, open image file or even play mp3 and watch the behavior of them like whether they access the internet or not?
[17:39] <cfhowlett> luc4, guarantee?  dell xps13 developer edition, system 76, emporer linux computers will run linux.
[17:40] <ice9> cfhowlett: luc4 I don't recommend Dell for security reasons, search about their BIOS backdoor
[17:41] <akiva-mobile> Canonical do anything for April Fools?
[17:41] <luc4> ice9: I don’t care much about this. I’m more concearned about the possibility to have Linux running...
[17:41] <cfhowlett> akiva-mobile, sold ubuntu to facebook ...
[17:41] <akiva-mobile> cfhowlett, ha! awesome :P
[17:43] <akiva-mobile> cfhowlett, I wonder if Jono will play along today on ubuntu-on-air
[17:43] <Guest97774> whatsapp, viber etc.. are closed IM app ; which are it is opposite open IM app?
[17:44] <justaguy> The advantage of running ubuntu 14.04 beta: 40MB of updates everyday :p
[17:44] <ice9> Guest97774: try Telegram it's open source
[17:47] <simpleuser> I’d like to host some pictures on my server. Do you know a simple application I can install on my server to do so?
[17:47] <SwedeMike> simpleuser: "host"? as in make available to a web browser?
[17:47] <simpleuser> I mean something specific to pictures (not something like owncloud)
[17:48] <simpleuser> SwedeMike, yep
[17:48] <SwedeMike> simpleuser: and you want something to do thumbnails, albums etc?
[17:48] <k1l> akiva-mobile: we have #ubuntu-offtopic for that talks
[17:49] <simpleuser> SwedeMike, not albums, thumbnails is enough
[17:49] <akiva-mobile> k1l, fyi; the ask jono anything about ubuntu is online soon.
[17:49] <SwedeMike> simpleuser: install a web server and "gallery". that should do the trick.
[17:50] <k1l> akiva-mobile: you know that we keep this channel clear for technical support. we have other channels for the social chatter. thanks
[17:50] <simpleuser> Ok I’ll try that. Thanks SwedeMike
[17:52] <imdea> Hi one question, I've a user "roberto" in my machine and want that it be able to do "sudo su - fyf"  and execute commands as that user without entering a password, I have edited as root the /etc/sudoers file using visudo and added this:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7190706/ but if I'm root and switch to this user as: sudo su - roberto and then do sudo su - fyf it asks me for a password, any ideas?
[17:54] <jrajav> Hey guys
[17:55] <jrajav> I'm running 14.04 on a retina Macbook Pro and after changing some options I get a black screen with a frozen cursor in the top left
[17:55] <oliver_> What happens when a user goes over the "soft" quota? It should stop them using up any more space after the "hard" limit?
[17:55] <jrajav> It appears after the splash boot logo
[17:55] <jrajav> How can I debug this?
[17:55] <Beldar> !14.04|jrajov
[17:56] <imdea> Hi one question, I've a user "roberto" in my machine and want that it be able to do "sudo su - fyf"  and execute commands as that user without entering a password, I have edited as root the /etc/sudoers file using visudo and added this:  http://paste.debian.net/91019/  but if I'm root and switch to this user as: sudo su - roberto and then do sudo su - fyf it asks me for a password, any ideas?
[17:56] <Beldar> !nomodeset | jrajav address this option in #ubuntu+1
[17:57] <kwoot> Where can I send a rather disturbing screenshot of a 14.04 beta 2 system?
[17:57] <cfhowlett> !paste|kwoot,
[17:58] <Beldar> imdea, The channel asks for a 10 min posting timeout.
[17:58] <imdea> Beldar: sorry.
[17:58] <Beldar> imdea, No biggie, if this is a server you might try #ubuntu-server as well.
[17:59] <imdea> Beldar, ok thanks
[18:00] <jrajav> For some reason my client isn't letting me join #ubuntu+1
[18:00] <kwoot> So, here goes: http://imagebin.org/303210. Good luck with this one :-)
[18:01] <kwoot> Ah, read the topic to late. Sorry. Will redirect.
[18:04] <thor_> yg
[18:04] <thor_> hvjkhvj
[18:05] <ghutzriop> hi, ich habe eben ubuntu 13.10 auf einem usb stick installiert und versuche jetzt auf einem anderen rechner zu booten, allerdinge bekomme ich nur ein "ata7: hard resetting link", nachdem ich das system im wiederherstellungsmodus gestartet habe
[18:06] <ghutzriop> oops, forgot to add an "-de" to the channel name
[18:06] <Beldar> ghutzriop, This is an english channel.
[18:07] <ghutzriop> Beldar: yes, I just noticed, sorry
[18:10] <sinack> How would I go about doing a select in a sequential order that would restart itself over again.  For example, I have a table called pictures.  Pictures have a foreign key to user_id.  I want to select all pictures but the order should be user1's picture#1, user2's picture#1, user3's picture#1, user1's picture#2, user2's picture #2, user3's picture#2....and so on.
[18:10] <Yoshi2889> sinack: SQL?
[18:10] <sinack> yeah, SQL
[18:10] <sinack> I'm trying to avoid using code to do this, if that's possible.
[18:11] <Yoshi2889> SELECT FROM pictures ORDER BY user_id ASC
[18:11] <Yoshi2889> i guess
[18:11] <sinack> no
[18:11] <Yoshi2889> isn't quite clear how the table looks tbh
[18:12] <sinack> table is id, user_id, title
[18:12] <Yoshi2889> if "picture" is different in every name, then you can't get around explode()'ing it by #
[18:13] <sinack> it seems like a very complicated sql query
[18:13] <Yoshi2889> actually
[18:13] <sinack> i can use the scripting language to calculate it, the problem is, when there's 100k+ pictures
[18:14] <sinack> it gets to be slow
[18:14] <Yoshi2889> SELECT FROM pictures ORDER BY user_id ASC, RIGHT(title, 3) ASC
[18:14] <Yoshi2889> err
[18:14] <Yoshi2889> that 3 should be 1
[18:14] <Yoshi2889> derp
[18:15] <sinack> that's not what i'm trying to achieve
[18:15] <Yoshi2889> hmm no
[18:15] <sinack> i don't want all of the user_id's  together
[18:15] <Yoshi2889> yeah...
[18:15] <Beldar> !who|sinack
[18:15] <sinack> i want user_id 1, user_id2, user_id3, user_id1, user_id2
[18:16] <Yoshi2889> i think you'd need a script for that
[18:16] <sinack> Beldar, gotcha, thanks
[18:16] <Beldar> sinack, Thanks, makes things easier. ;)
[18:16] <sinack> Yoshi2889, i feel like it can be done in sql, but it's beyond my understanding
[18:17] <ghutzriop> ok, another try here. I successfully installed ubuntu 13.10 on an usb-stick. it also boots correctly on my laptop, but not on my desktop. I'm getting an "ata7: hard resetting link" error.
[18:17] <Yoshi2889> sinack: I think it can be done too, but doing it with a script seems easier
[18:18] <Yoshi2889> ghutzriop: http://askubuntu.com/questions/109180/mysterious-hard-disk-failure
[18:18] <Yoshi2889> first result on google
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> ghutzriop: are you trying to boot ubuntu from an usb on your desktop, or install it on dekstop
[18:19] <ghutzriop> lotuspsychje: trying to boot it from an usb on my desktop
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> ghutzriop: you sure your bios is set right to boot the usb?
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> ghutzriop: some bios got multiple settings to boot usb as first
[18:21] <ghutzriop> lotuspsychje: I'm not sure what I could configure differently. I was able to chose the recovery mode from grub(which is installed on the usb). and it's the only connected usb-stick
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> ghutzriop: feel free to ask in ##hardware channel aswell for your bios/mobo brand
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> ghutzriop: so you can boot the usb and enter grub
[18:23] <ghutzriop> lotuspsychje: correct, but the bot process stops with an ata error. I suspect, there is something configured in a non-prtable way in grub
[18:23] <ghutzriop> boot process*
[18:26] <HappyNewYear13> I have a question about Ubuntu One, when you upload files: are they indexed by Google search or any other search engine?
[18:27] <HappyNewYear13> Another question about Ubuntu One files uploaded: how do I set them to be private? a whole folder private?
[18:28] <coolguy210> How's everyone doing?
[18:28] <daftykins> coolguy210: do you have a support question?
[18:28] <coolguy210> I do
[18:28] <TJ-> sinack: In a test DB here, this works as you described: "select * from pictures order by title, user_id asc"
[18:29] <coolguy210> I needed to know how to create a scheduled task using the AT command in Ubuntu. It needs to echo "It is now time to log off". Can anyone help?
[18:29] <HappyNewYear13> I don't get Ubuntu One
[18:29] <HappyNewYear13> I don't get Ubuntu One. What's this publishing option? Does it mean they will be public only if if I tell it so?
[18:30] <HappyNewYear13> Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn help me
[18:30] <cfhowlett> !patience|HappyNewYear13,
[18:30] <HappyNewYear13> this channel used to be more helpful in the past, what happened?
[18:31] <cfhowlett> !attitude
[18:31] <sinack> TJ-, that's not quite right.  It's still repeating.  You can't really use title to order, because it won't guarantee uniqueness
[18:31] <TJ-> HappyNewYear13: "Ubuntu One" is a Canonical service, not a community managed service, so you may be better using the dedicated Ubuntu One help facility
[18:31] <HappyNewYear13> TJ-, where is that?
[18:32] <HappyNewYear13> so craving chocolate now
[18:32] <cfhowlett> HappyNewYear13, one.ubuntu.com
[18:32] <TJ-> sinack: Your requirement doesn't make sense then. You want it sorting by row order?
[18:33] <HappyNewYear13> cfhowlett, thank you friend
[18:33] <TJ-> sinack: If the table's id field is unique, then you can use that: "select * from pictures order by id, user_id asc;"
[18:33] <sinack> TJ-, just (1, user1), (2, user1), (3, user2), (4, user1)
[18:33] <guest-tDWL3l> t was that link?
[18:34] <guest-tDWL3l> #ubuntu isn't on the list
[18:34] <guest-tDWL3l> for logs
[18:35] <sirithcam> Hey, im installing NCMPCPP music player and after launching ./configure i've got error "configure: error: boost/locale.hpp is missing". Someone know how to fix it?
[18:36] <TJ-> sinack: You'd need an intermediate table for that kind of sort
[18:37] <sinack> TJ-, that's what this table is, it's an intermediate table, *basically*, user_id, and photo_id
[18:37] <sinack> TJ-, where photo_id is id
[18:38] <k1l> !away > Germanaz0|0FF
[18:40] <Beldar> sirithcam, Maybe an easier way if this ppa supports your release.  http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/ncmpcpp-ncurses-mpd-client-shell-music.html
[18:41] <sirithcam> k thx
[18:41] <naodwalk> Hello all, I have a class project and need to schedule a task using the AT command to display a message in the terminal. Does anyone know how I'd go about doing this?
[18:42] <beandog> man at
[18:42] <naodwalk> Thanks. but it wont display the echo command
[18:43] <beandog> naodwalk: what do you mean?
[18:43] <naodwalk> So when I schedule the task to run it wont display in the atq list and the job never runs
[18:45] <beandog> oh
[18:45] <beandog> is the at daemon running?
[18:45] <naodwalk> yes it is
[18:46] <beandog> hmm
[18:46] <beandog> dunno
[18:46] <beandog> :|
[18:47] <naodwalk> is the syntax incorrect? at 2:05PM [echo "Time to logoff."> ~/message [cat ~/message
[18:47] <naodwalk> where [ = new line
[18:47] <tmmunq> looks fine to me
[18:48] <TJ-> sinack: There's no data in the table representing the order of pictures by user_id, which you need in order to do a "group by"
[18:48] <naodwalk> :(
[18:48] <naodwalk> well thanks anyway. I'll look into it more
[18:49] <akiva-mobile> hey can we get a mod in #ubuntu-on-air. bin_bash needs a boot, and Jono asked for it.
[18:49] <vanishing> naodwalk: what was your problem? sorry I was late to the party
[18:49] <vanishing> just saw atq
[18:49] <beandog> akiva-mobile: ask in #ubuntu-ops
[18:49] <akiva-mobile> beandog, thanks
[18:49] <beandog> np
[18:50] <k1l> akiva-mobile: ask in #ubuntu-ops
[18:50] <sinack> TJ-, Solved: http://sqlfiddle.com/#!2/343fc/2
[18:51] <naodwalk> My issue is that when i enter at 2:05PM [echo "time to log off" > ~/message [cat ~/message (where [ = new line) the job is not entered into the atq, and never runs.
[18:52] <ice9> which package has aa-sandbox?
[18:53] <TJ-> sinack: that table isn't the same one you described ("table is id, user_id, title"), and that query will be very expensive, computationally
[18:53] <Yoshi2889> ice9: android application sandbox?
[18:53] <TJ-> sinack: The better way is to create an index
[18:53] <ice9> Yoshi2889: no just normal linux apps
[18:53] <Yoshi2889> ice9: apparmor-sandbox
[18:54] <ice9> Yoshi2889: is it possible to run android apps on Ubutnu?
[18:54] <Yoshi2889> ice9: dunno
[18:54] <sinack> TJ-, thanks for your help.
[18:54] <Yoshi2889> through an emulator yes, otherwise no idea
[18:54] <ice9> Yoshi2889: I don't have apparmor-sandbox
[18:54] <Yoshi2889> but you do have aa-sandbox?
[18:55] <robotti^> ice9: is possible using virtual machine running android
[18:55] <bekks> robotti^: yes
[18:55] <bekks> robotti^: android x86
[18:55] <robotti^> bekks: yep
[18:55] <Yoshi2889> ic9: dpkg -S /bin/aa-sandbox
[18:55] <robotti^> and all java apps
[18:56] <robotti^> native arm apps dont work
[18:56] <bekks> robotti^: if they run on android x86.
[19:05] <kram1> hi
[19:06] <kram1> Can anyone suggest a GUI memory benchmarking tool?
[19:06] <bekks> whats thats?
[19:07] <bekks> kram1: all memory benchmarks depend on the exact use case. you can have fast RAM, which behaves with the speed of pen and paper just because your benchmark isnt actually doing what the application (which you are benchmarking for) would do.
[19:08] <kram1> bekks: Just looking for something to test basic read/write.
[19:08] <kram1> And maybe report clock speeds.
[19:08] <bekks> kram1: just run memtest86++ then, from the grub menu.
[19:08] <kram1> Looking for something that runs on Linux.
[19:08] <kram1> memtest86 isn't really a benchmarker, I'm not sure what's the significance of the basic info it shows
[19:09] <bekks> It does exactly what you want: test basic read/write and report clock speeds.
[19:09] <kram1> Memtest86's main job is to check for errors.
[19:10] <bekks> It does exactly what you want: test basic read/write and report clock speeds.
[19:10] <bekks> That where your requirements. You are refusing it just because it isnt named "shiny benchmark tool".
[19:10] <kram1> It only shows one figure, I assume for read, and it's inconsistent with a "real" benchmarker I tried.
[19:11] <bekks> It does read/write tests, per your choice.
[19:11] <kram1> The reason I'm curious, too, is that it started showing less than half the MB/sec it showed a few days ago, and I'm trying to figure out why.
[19:11] <bekks> And whatever "inconsistent" in terms of "benchmarking" even means.
[19:12] <kram1> Regarding clocks, a few Windows utilities show me a figure that's lower than what I expect. I don't know if it's chipset incompatibility, or the actual speed.
[19:12] <bekks> It is the actual speed.
[19:12] <kram1> The BIOS at least shows the expected clocks. But I want to see what some higher level utility reports.
[19:13] <kram1> Where? The BIOS?
[19:13] <bekks> "higher lever utility reports". Look at the RAM itself, look at the sticker. thats the nominal clock speed.
[19:13] <kram1> Anyway, nothing you can suggest for benchmarking or lowlevel sysinfo under Linux?
[19:14] <bekks> Everything else is determined by the exact hardware you are using.
[19:14] <JDodger> I really need some help ;_;
[19:14] <kram1> I'm seeing a discrepancy. I want to find out if the WIndows utilities are wrong or not.
[19:14] <bekks> kram1: We dont care about windows utilities :)
[19:14] <cyanboy> Has anyone written a script to remove the spyware from ubuntu?
[19:14] <kram1> bekks: That's why I asked for something for Linux...
[19:14] <JDodger> can someone pm if they can help me set up my ubuntu dual boot with windows 8?
[19:15] <cfhowlett> !fud|cyanboy, no spyware is ubuntu
[19:15] <bekks> kram1: And you got a reliable answer. Look at memtest, it does exactly what your requirements are.
[19:15] <kram1> Any other suggestions?
[19:15] <JDodger> okay well I'll just ask it out here then
[19:16] <cyanboy> cfhowlett: I'm all the bloat that comes with it like integrated amazon search
[19:16] <cfhowlett> !nounity|cyanboy,
[19:17] <JDodger> Basically, I'm trying to set up dual boot, I currently am running windows 8, I partitioned 100GB of my C drive for ubuntu to go on, I had to disable windows 8 on my bios in order to get to ubuntu on boot. I go onto ubuntu and installed it, it all worked, but when i rebooted it to use it normally, it wouldn't boot to it...
[19:17] <JDodger> I want to be able to select whether I use Ubuntu or Windows on boot
[19:17] <cfhowlett> cyanboy, amazon search lenses are only in unity desktop environment.  alternatives: gnome, lxde, xfce
[19:17] <cfhowlett> !notunity
[19:18] <cyanboy> what's the apt-get remove to remove unity and all the "evil components"
[19:18] <ice9> cyanboy: why do you want to remove unity?
[19:19] <bekks> !eol > bekks
[19:19] <cfhowlett> cyanboy, as unity is pretty much integrated, you're better served just using an alternate desktop environment or disto: lubuntu/xubuntu
[19:19] <Kaco> Evening
[19:19] <k1l> cyanboy: there are no "evil components" just set it to not make online queries in the privacy settings in system settings
[19:19] <cfhowlett> !dualboot > JDodger,
[19:20] <JDodger> sorry I'm new to this, what do you mean by !dualboot?
[19:20] <ubunter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7191170/  tail -f /var/log/syslog is saying http://paste.ubuntu.com/7191174/ but I dont see it
[19:20] <cfhowlett> JDodger, choose windows or ubuntu at boot time: dual = "two"
[19:20] <k1l> cyanboy: but you are free to remove the ubuntu-desktop and use another desktop that gets shipped in the repos. but stop that FUD about spyware. that is just making a drama.
[19:21] <cfhowlett> needless drama
[19:21] <cyanboy> k1l: I'm fine with using unity. I just don't want amazon etc. there by default
[19:22] <k1l> cyanboy: as i said: see privacy settings and switch that off
[19:22] <OerHeks> i want more choice than Amazon :-) but amazon will be opt-in in 14.04
[19:22] <k1l> no need to make that drama
[19:22] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, I think it's actually 14.10 ...
[19:23] <rww> cfhowlett: it doesn't work if you stick a comma after the person's nick ;)
[19:23] <OerHeks> i'd like to write such amazon plugin and service for local business :-D
[19:23] <rww> cfhowlett: (!dualboot > JDodger,), I mean
[19:23] <cfhowlett> rww, ah!  that's why.  gotta change my xchat settings
[19:24] <cfhowlett> rww  fixed!
[19:24] <rww> :)
[19:26] <ubunter> Where am I missing a semicolon? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7191170/ I dont understand why I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7191174/  if everything is ok
[19:26] <Es0teric> has anyone here installed ssmtp?
[19:30] <biggbear> how to find what means error 139 when sudo apt-get install'ing
[19:30] <Jordan_U> ubunter: Don't use word processors for text editing.
[19:31] <ubunter> so what should i do?
[19:31] <cfhowlett> !crosspost
[19:31] <DrDigita_> How could I get a Java application (JIRA) to run faster on my Ubuntu system?
[19:31] <Jordan_U> ubunter: Use a text editor to edit your text files, and replace those smart quotes with regular quotation marks.
[19:33] <DrDigita_> it seems pretty slow for my system specs... Dual AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+ x 2 and 6gb of ram
[19:34] <DrDigita_> http://pastebin.com/nd6SHMKv  is my system really under load? doesn't seem to be to me?
[19:34] <ekarlso> phr/win 10
[19:34] <ubunter> Thank you, worked like a charm.
[19:35] <Jordan_U> ubunter: You're welcome. Do you understand what the problem was, and how it was caused?
[19:36] <ubunter> Yes, I saw it the smart quotes where the culprit and not to use a word proccessor instead use a text edit like gedit. Thanks
[19:40] <luc4> Hello! Anyone who has installed Ubuntu on something like Toshiba Satellite L50-A-14K?
[19:41] <bekks> luc4: What are the actual issues you having to do so? :)
[19:42] <DrDigita_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1129187  i wonder if that would work and how could i find out if my system has a OpenGL based card?
[19:42] <luc4> bekks: I don’t have it. I’ve been told there are issues with Linux with those new PC including TPM. Just wanted to know if someone had experience on those.
[19:42] <DrDigita_> and I'm talking about a web based java application (serving it)
[19:45] <bekks> luc4: as long as you can disable TPM, there are no possible issues ;)
[19:46] <luc4> bekks: indeed. But is it always possible to disable it?
[19:46] <bekks> luc4: from what I know, there are some machines out there where it isnt possible.
[19:46] <luc4> bekks: I really know nothing about this TPM, I’m just trying to understand by reading around. But this point is unclear to me...
[19:46] <luc4> bekks: and in that case I may be unable to install ubuntu?
[19:48] <bekks> luc4: in that case it still maybe possible to install something.
[19:48] <luc4> bekks: I’ve been asked to confirm that that machine is ok by my company. If I can’t install Linux… I can even throw it away as I can only work with Linux :-)
[19:48] <luc4> bekks: so Linux don’t actually support this tpm?
[19:50] <bekks> luc4: Most likely, it does. Read this e.g.: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/TPM
[19:50] <bekks> luc4: Or this: http://www.grounation.org/?post/2008/07/04/8-how-to-use-a-tpm-with-linux
[19:50] <slikts> why could it be that when I put /tmp on tmpfs everything started to occasionally freeze?
[19:51] <k1l> slikts: your ram got a hardware problem?
[19:51] <slikts> k1l: definitely not
[19:51] <bekks> slikts: because your box has to swap and starts to get really slow.
[19:51] <slikts> bekks: I have 16 GB of ram
[19:51] <bekks> slikts: which does not mean much.
[19:52] <bekks> slikts: Check wether your system is actually swapping.
[19:52] <slikts> bekks: it is not
[19:52] <luc4> bekks: those are the first two articles I read in reverse order :-)
[19:52] <slikts> bekks: most of it is empty
[19:52] <bekks> luc4: :D
[19:52] <slikts> bekks: even if it was swapping, the disk is a fast ssd so it shouldn't be noticable
[19:52] <bekks> slikts: then it isnt the /tmp in tmpfs which causes your system to get really slow.
[19:52] <luc4> bekks: so some may work and some may not. Also on some TPM can be disabled, on some it can’t. I will only know when I get it… right?
[19:53] <bekks> slikts: Which is nonsense. :) An SSD is still noticably slower than RAM.
[19:53] <Artemis3> never ever put swap on ssd
[19:53] <slikts> bekks: I didn't say it is slow, things just get glitchy and start freezing
[19:53] <cfhowlett> Artemis3  explain that last?
[19:53] <slikts> bekks: for example, Chrome would freeze up and say "Waiting for Cache..."
[19:53] <k1l> slikts: i really would make a ram test
[19:53] <bekks> slikts: Then it has nothing to do with /tmp on tmpfs most likely.
[19:53] <slikts> k1l: I've done that, it's fine
[19:54] <bekks> slikts: how long did that RAM test run?
[19:54] <slikts> bekks: it happens only when I put /tmp on tmpfs
[19:54] <slikts> Artemis3: the swap never gets used
[19:54] <Artemis3> then remove it
[19:55] <bekks> Artemis3: then he will be unable to use suspend to disk.
[19:55] <slikts> bekks: I don't use that ever
[19:55] <Artemis3> there you go
[19:55] <slikts> it's not a laptop, I just use S3 standby
[19:55] <bekks> slikts: then remove swap :)
[19:55] <slikts> bekks: I don't want to in case I run out of ram
[19:55] <Artemis3> you don't want the next leaking program to kill your ssd prematurely, and it happens from time to time
[19:56] <slikts> I'll move it to a hdd instead
[19:56] <Artemis3> thats better
[19:56] <Artemis3> swap kills ssd, as simple as that.
[19:57] <slikts> it'd still be nice to know how to get /tmp to use tmpfs without problems
[19:57] <Jordan_U> slikts: Artemis3: bekks: For any issue where having swap causes slowdowns (which is much more rare than people think, usually having swap if anything increases speed), setting swappiness to 0 will usually get you the same result, except you'll still get better handling of OOM conditions.
[19:57] <slikts> I just used noexec,nosuid options for tmpfs
[19:57] <Artemis3> slikts, its set up like that by default
[19:57] <slikts> Artemis3: where can I see how it's set up? I don't see in /etc/fstab
[19:58] <slikts> I mean I don't see /tab
[19:58] <Jordan_U> slikts: Is the tmpfs particularly full when you get these freezes?
[19:58] <slikts> and df doesn't show /tmp as tmpfs either
[19:58] <slikts> Jordan_U: not at all
[19:58] <k1l> slikts: last time now: did you run a memtest so far to be sure its not the ram?
[19:58] <Artemis3> well normally anyway, it should have fstab entries for tmpfs
[19:58] <slikts> k1l: yes
[19:59] <slikts> Artemis3: it's a clean 13.10 install and I'm sure /tmp wasn't on tmpfs
[19:59] <Jordan_U> slikts: How are you mounting /tmp/ as tmpfs?
[19:59] <slikts> Jordan_U: sec
[19:59] <Artemis3> /etc/fstab: line such as "tmpfs /tmp tmpfs noatime,nosuid 0 0"
[20:01] <slikts> Jordan_U: http://hastebin.com/pabudabati.hs
[20:01] <slikts> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[20:01] <slikts> maybe I'll try without noexec
[20:01] <failshell> hello. is there an open source tool to manage patches on a farm of ubuntu servers? similar to Spacewalk
[20:02] <yorwos> hi guyz 1 question plz , any1 installed photoshop cs6 through wine ??? my problem is my healing brush+spot healing sometimes they work properly sometimes it does the spot but its not following the arrow , if i undo and redo 2-3 times it works properly any ideas ?
[20:02] <k1l> slikts: noatime instead of noexec
[20:03] <Jordan_U> k1l: Why? noexec seems entirely appropriate for /tmp/, and atime modification seems least likely to cause slowdowns for tmpfs (relative to on-disk filesystems).
[20:04] <k1l> yorwos: best is to ask the wine specialists
[20:04] <k1l> !wine | yorwos
[20:04] <slikts> has anyone used photoshop cs6 in a vm? is it feasible?
[20:04] <dw1> yorwos: you could always try another wine version, playonlinux makes it pretty easy
[20:04] <Jordan_U> slikts: Are you ever mounting /tmp/ after boot, or are you only modifying the fstab and allowing it to be mounted during boot?
[20:05] <slikts> Jordan_U: modifying fstab
[20:05] <k1l> Jordan_U: some scrupts still want to execute stuff in tmp
[20:05] <Artemis3> slikts, i didn't noticed upstream reverted the /tmp in tmpfs by default, so nvm
[20:06] <fballs> does anyone know why ubuntu doesn't ship with a built-in equalizer for pulse?
[20:06] <fballs> it has one, but it's not included in the ubuntu version of pulse
[20:07] <fballs> i don't like using PPA's
[20:07] <CyberGabber> failshell: Maybe this puts you in right direction? http://www.ubuntu.com/management/working-with-landscape , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UpdateServer ?
[20:07] <slikts> fballs: what's wrong with ppas
[20:08] <bekks> slikts: they might break your box.
[20:08] <fballs> they also present a security risk
[20:08] <slikts> bekks: yeah and you might get in a traffic accident if you go outside, better never leave your room, right?
[20:09] <bekks> slikts: which has nothing to do with PPA.
[20:09] <slikts> bekks: it's an analogy
[20:09] <failshell> CyberGabber: don't you have to pay for launchpad?
[20:09] <bekks> !ppa | slikts
[20:09] <k1l> slikts: just stay some time in here and see how often PPAs cause trouble. :/
[20:09] <fballs> i'm not trying to start a flame war, the feature is already in pulse, but for some raisin, ubuntu doesn't have it turned on
[20:10] <slikts> bekks: wtf?
[20:10] <fballs> :(
[20:10] <k1l> fballs: maybe file a bug and tell the maintainers to sort that?
[20:10] <CyberGabber> failshell: Don't know, a just seen the demonstration on that link. thats all ;-(
[20:10] <fballs> i guess what i'm saying is, it should be in the official repositories, is it even worth the bother requesting the feature be put in?
[20:12] <skinux> Is there a way to limit results of 'locate' to only executables?
[20:12] <k1l> fballs: for me it sounds like this. file a bug/request and discuss that with the maintainers.
[20:12] <Console> Hey, what would be the safest way to determine which ftp service I'm running? It's on a old machine on Ubuntu 10.04
[20:12] <OerHeks> fballs, exactly your issue >> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/03/install-pulseaudio-with-built-in-system.html > with direct download && ppa solution, i agree, this is a bug :-D
[20:12] <bekks> skinux: No.
[20:13] <skinux> Console: 'sudo netstat -anp' and look through results.
[20:13] <Console> Thanks skinux
[20:13] <fballs> OerHeks, that's where I found the ppa. I'll try submitting a bug request
[20:13] <fballs> thanks guys
[20:14] <fballs> (and girls?)
[20:14] <Jordan_U> fballs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/932834
[20:14] <jaimef> apt-cache search postgresql-client yields postgresql-client-9.3 however apt-get -q -y install postgresql-client=9.3 yields E: Version '9.3' for 'postgresql-client' was not found.
[20:15] <Elcrapocrew> anyone know how I can make ubuntu server edition boot into xfce by default (yes I have X and xfce installed)
[20:15] <slikts> Elcrapocrew: just use ssh for servers
[20:15] <slikts> like a baws
[20:16] <slikts> look at the scrubs using remote desktop from above
[20:16] <k1l> Elcrapocrew: installing a *dm should do a loginscreen by default
[20:16] <Elcrapocrew> slikts: this is a throw away test using virtualbox on a private network no ssh access : (
[20:17] <Jordan_U> fballs: Be sure to mark yourself as affected by the bug.
[20:17] <slikts> Elcrapocrew: punch through the nat, like a baws as well
[20:18]  * slikts deletes his swap partition like a baws
[20:18] <Elcrapocrew> slikts: http://99gifs.com/-img/50475b02afa96f1e19000d41.gif
[20:18] <root___> Hello
[20:19] <OerHeks> !rootirc
[20:19] <fballs> Jordan_U, will do...i'm dong some reading now
[20:19] <root___> I've just booted the lubuntu liveCD (er, livekey) and can't figure out how to join a wireless network. There's an app called "network manager" which asks for a lot of information I don't have.
[20:20] <root___> Is there no way of getting a list of available networks and simply supplying the password, as usual?
[20:20] <Jordan_U> root___: Why are you logged in as root?
[20:20]  * Hfuy_ isn't root anymore, mkay
[20:20] <k1l> root___: you should not be root if this was a lubuntu live cd
[20:20] <Jordan_U> Hfuy_: Why are you logged in as root?
[20:20] <k1l> Hfuy_: ubuntu doesnt have an enable root account. so some things dont work with root on ubuntu.
[20:21] <Hfuy_> Panic not, people. I simply ran "sudo xterm" because I tire of typing "sudo" constantly.
[20:21] <jhutchins_wk> I suspect that if he is on a Ubuntu Live CD, he isn't actually running IRC as root.
[20:21] <Hfuy_> Anyway, this wifi issue.
[20:21] <js_doode> hello. running ubuntu 13.10 and needing to source a .bash file in .bash_profile, but it is not working for me.
[20:22] <jhutchins_wk> Hfuy_: Or, then again...
[20:22] <Hfuy_> I had ubuntu on this netbook. It was a bit heavyweight.
[20:22] <jhutchins_wk> Hfuy_: What kind of information is it asking that you don't have?
[20:22] <js_doode> created .bash_profile, then opened it and typed: source /path/to/file.bash
[20:22] <k1l> jhutchins_wk: well, he clearly is. and we dont know what else is running as root and making now problems
[20:22] <Hfuy_> So I thought I'd try lubuntu. But if I need to come up with, what is it, 12 bits of information about every wifi network... no.
[20:22] <jhutchins_wk> Hfuy_: Which version of the live CD BTW?
[20:22] <Hfuy_> Not sure. Downloaded it a few minutes ago.
[20:23] <k1l> Hfuy_: its the same networkmanager like on ubuntu
[20:23] <Hfuy_> On the ubuntu I have on this machine (which is quite old, 12.10 I think) I just get a list of available networks and it asks for a password if it needs one
[20:23] <jhutchins_wk> k1l: Yeah, I see that.
[20:24] <Hfuy_> This arrangement with manually typing in SSIDs and MAC addresses... this isn't actually the normal UI, is it?!
[20:25] <Jordan_U> Hfuy_: Don't run your IRC client, or any other application that was not designed to to be run as root, as root. Especially if said application connects to the internet.
[20:25] <jhutchins_wk> Hfuy_: No, that's not standard.
[20:25] <Jordan_U> Hfuy_: Please quit and re-join from a client that is not running as root.
[20:26] <Hfuy_> OK, let's take this step by step
[20:26] <Hfuy_> Is there some sort of settings UI I can get which will list the available networks?
[20:26] <[Gentoo]> Jordan_U: he might be on a livecd
[20:26] <pbi> Hi, I just upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10 and xrandr rotate does not work anymore (amd firepro 2460) (black screen, or screen not rotated but mouse pointer is). Has anybody seen a report on this or have a fix ?
[20:26] <Jordan_U> [Gentoo]: They are. They still shouldn't run their IRC client as root.
[20:26] <Hfuy_> I'm on a livecd.
[20:27] <Hfuy_> Well, a live flash key.
[20:27] <[Gentoo]> Jordan_U: a lot of livecds are root by default
[20:27] <Jordan_U> [Gentoo]: None of them are Ubuntu liveCDs, and thus questions relating to their use would be offtopic here anyway.
[20:27] <Hfuy_> Unfortunately, #lubuntu is very quiet.
[20:28] <jhutchins_wk> Nonetheless, that might explain it.
[20:28] <Hfuy_> I wonder if it simply hasn't seen the wifi hardware, which is why it isn't offering a UI.
[20:28] <jhutchins_wk> Hfuy_: lubuntu is ubuntu with an xfce desktop.  Not significantly different.  You may have a different wifi manager though, possibly wicd which I'm not familiar with.
[20:28] <jhutchins_wk> er, s/xfce/lxde.
[20:29] <k1l> lubuntu got networkmanager as default
[20:29] <k1l> that is the same like ubuntu got.
[20:29] <Hfuy_> If I type "ifconfig", I get eth0 and o
[20:29] <Hfuy_> er lo
[20:29] <jhutchins_wk> I know networkmanager's inteface has been pretty much in flux recently.
[20:29] <Hfuy_> I fear it simply hasn't seen the wifi hardware.
[20:29] <jhutchins_wk> It'll work as you would expect one release, then the next is all counterintuitive.
[20:30] <Hfuy_> Are you seriously saying that people are promoting this as a lightweight OS for netbooks, and it doesn't have a stable wifi UI?
[20:30] <k1l> jhutchins_wk: 14.04 lubuntu-dekstop still got the networkmanager-gnome as depencie
[20:30] <Hfuy_> That's absurd.
[20:31] <k1l> Hfuy_: no
[20:31] <Hfuy_> Then what do I press?
[20:31] <k1l> make sure the wificard is enabled and detected
[20:31] <jhutchins_wk> Hfuy_: Yes, I agree it's absurd.
[20:31] <Hfuy_> how/
[20:32] <jhutchins_wk> Hfuy_: It probably wouldn't be prompting you for info if there wasn't a card.
[20:32] <k1l> Hfuy_: sry, a few minutes ago you were the "i know all so i run root when i want" guy. :/
[20:32] <js_doode> googled it and .bash_profile is .profile in ubuntu 13.10. :)
[20:32] <wolfy1339> i just connected a Bluetooth mouse and i cannot use it, do i have to restart to make it work?
[20:32] <jhutchins_wk> Hfuy_: You can use the command line wifi tools to try and diagnose it, but I don't have that particular UI available to try and guess what you're doing and seeing.
[20:32] <Hfuy_> It didn't prompt me, I had to hit a systray icon.
[20:32] <k1l> Hfuy_: see lspci, lsusb, dmesg,
[20:33] <jhutchins_wk> wolfy1339: Elaborate on "connected".  Plugged in or linked?
[20:33] <Hfuy_> I'm mainly a windows guy so the idea that people are still shipping operating systems without wifi support is just... laughable to me.
[20:33] <k1l> rfkill, too
[20:33] <jhutchins_wk> Hfuy_: Also not true.
[20:33] <k1l> Hfuy_: no, it is not
[20:34] <jhutchins_wk> Hfuy_: From what I've seen, the WIndows wireless interfaces are horrible and buggy.
[20:34] <Hfuy_> the XP w
[20:34] <Hfuy_> The XP one was.
[20:34] <Hfuy_> It's OK now.
[20:34] <Jordan_U> !ot | jhutchins_wk Hfuy_
[20:35] <wolfy1339> jhutchins_wk, linked, paired
[20:35] <Hfuy_> What?
[20:35] <k1l> Hfuy_: please decide if you are the computer-guru who runs everything as root, or if you really want help. just ranting in here doesnt help anyone
[20:35] <backbox> yoo guys, quick questiuon. what is the name of the file that csan manage network info? ie it allowed you to set static/dhcp settings without a program.
[20:35] <Hfuy_> I don't care either way, I just want it to work.
[20:35] <Artemis3> Hfuy_, support questions only, you can'r rant here
[20:35] <k1l> backbox: you mean the network manager?
[20:36] <Hfuy_> In any case, one reason I built this flash key was to figure out whether it worked well enough to use, the answer appears to be no, unless anyone has any further suggestions.
[20:36] <Jordan_U> backbox: /etc/network/interfaces
[20:36] <sanity> I need help seting up openvpen certs, not sure if this is the right forum.
[20:36] <k1l> backbox: or the /etc/network/interfaces file/config?
[20:36] <backbox> well, no. the file specific to setting the settings. not the network manager
[20:36] <vmn> openssl
[20:36] <vmn> Can set it up for you
[20:36] <wolfy1339> i just connected (paired, linked) a Bluetooth mouse and i cannot use it, do i have to restart my computer or log out to make it work?
[20:36] <backbox> Jordan_U,  THATS IT
[20:36] <backbox> THASAABNNKKSS
[20:36] <Artemis3> Hfuy_, i suggest, before purchasing anything, check and double check online if the device works with the OS you intend to use.
[20:37] <k1l> Hfuy_: sorry, but i gave you several options to test what is going wrong. you keep making a drama out of it. so please leave
[20:37] <Hfuy_> Artemis3: Well, I've had the netbook for a while. I was looking for something lighter.
[20:37] <[Gentoo]> i think linux isnt for people who have no patience
[20:37] <backbox> k1l,  Jordan_U , thanks guys. i was not recalling. Much thanks
[20:38] <Jordan_U> backbox: You're welcome.
[20:38] <k1l> backbox: no problem :)
[20:38] <Artemis3> Hfuy_, not all hardware works, you have to check beforehand, it might work with effort, or not at all. The hardware that works, works perfectly without doing anything.
[20:39] <Hfuy_> I'm just a bit confused that ubuntu of two and a half years ago worked, whereas this much more up-to-date lubuntu doesn't.
[20:39] <Artemis3> Hfuy_, it its a lubuntu issue perhaps you should join #lubuntu
[20:39] <Artemis3> if
[20:39] <Hfuy_> I have. It's dead,
[20:39] <Jordan_U> Hfuy_: What version of Ubuntu is this LiveUSB?
[20:40] <backbox> k1l,  Jordan_U , one other question. what's the group name for the network. I tried adding my user to "network " but network doesn't exist. is the group called something else?
[20:40] <k1l> Hfuy_: Artemis3 last time now: do you have an interesst in technically solving that issue or are you just here to rant about that?
[20:40] <Hfuy_> Jordan_U: I'm not sure what information you need, how do I find that out?
[20:41] <Jordan_U> Hfuy_: lsb_release -d
[20:41] <jhutchins_wk> Artemis3: lubuntu is ubuntu with lxde, uses the gnome nm applet, and is supported here.  I don't know why he's not getting the familiar interface, he hasn't been very descriptive, and he hasn't told us of any diagnostics he's tried.
[20:41] <Hfuy_> "Description: Ubuntu 13.10"
[20:42] <jhutchins_wk> Hfuy_: WHat kind of menu do you get if you left-click the wifi icon?
[20:42] <jhutchins_wk> Hfuy_: What choices?  Ditto for right-click?
[20:42] <Hfuy_> I don't see a wifi icon.
[20:42] <k1l> i told where he can get informations about the wifi card and if its detected (or even enabled)
[20:43] <jhutchins_wk> Hfuy_: Then what did you click when you said it was asking for too many items of information?
[20:43] <Hfuy_> I have an icon by the clock at the bottom right which looks like one arrow pointing up, and one arrow pointing down, which I assume is a network related thing.
[20:43] <Hfuy_> If I click it, one of the options is "edit"
[20:44] <Jordan_U> Hfuy_: Please pastebin the output of "lspci -vnn".
[20:44] <Hfuy_> This brings up a dialog in which one of the options is "add", which appears to allow me to manually add a wifi network. But I need a ridiculous amount of detailed technical information to fill in all the boxes, and if that's the only UI, then it isn't usable.
[20:45] <Hfuy_> Wait one. That's a lot of text.
[20:45] <jhutchins_wk> Hfuy_: Disparaging the information is not helpful in finding your solution.  You have chosen to add a network manually instead of from scanned data, that's what the system needs to know, one way or another.  It's what any OS needs to know.
[20:46] <jhutchins_wk> Hfuy_: Have you tried right-click instead of left-click?  Also, what Jordan_U asked.
[20:46] <Hfuy_> jhutchins_wk: I've never been required to add that sort of information before. I'm not disparaging anything, please just take it as a limitation of my willingness to put up with inconvenience in order to use a lighter OS.
[20:46] <Hfuy_> Right click just gets me settings on the applet area.
[20:47] <jhutchins_wk> Hfuy_: That's not what's going on.  You're doin' it wrong!  That is the option to add an undetected (silent) network.
[20:47] <Jordan_U> Hfuy_: When things are working properly the only information you will need to manually add is the password.
[20:47] <Hfuy_> Jordan_U: Right, OK. That's what I've been trying to establish.
[20:47] <jhutchins_wk> Jordan_U: I'm gonna leave this to you, I don't have a reference copy atm.
[20:48] <wolfy1339> I'm using a surface pro with a type cover and i bought a bluetooth mouse and i paired it, and now how do i use it?
[20:48] <Hfuy_> Apparently I can't paste a URL into irssi, so here it is manually: http://pastebin.com/AKeLjb1x
[20:49] <Hfuy_> Is that what we wanted>
[20:49] <Jordan_U> Hfuy_: ctrl+shift+v (depending on what terminal emulator you're using).
[20:49] <Hfuy_> No, that just gives me an inverse-video uppercase V.
[20:50] <Hfuy_> Anyway, is any of this helping?
[20:51] <Jordan_U> Hfuy_: You have a broadcom card, which needs firmware to function.
[20:51] <Hfuy_> Er, okay?
[20:52] <Hfuy_> It worked fine under ubuntu, if that helps?
[20:52] <Jordan_U> Hfuy_: In the older Ubuntu you presumably installed the firmware (or the proprietary driver).
[20:53] <Hfuy_> Not as far as I recall, but it was some time ago.
[20:53] <Hfuy_> So, er.
[20:53] <Hfuy_> What's the situation.
[20:53] <Jordan_U> Hfuy_: Software Center should have a graphical "Additional Drivers" tool which will allow you to install the firmware you need, though I don't have an Ubuntu machine in frot of me to walk you through the interface.
[20:54] <Sn0wCr45h> in 14.04 it's not there anymore
[20:54] <Jordan_U> Hfuy_: You'll need to be connected to the internet via ethernet, or you'll need to copy some files over via USB.
[20:54] <Sn0wCr45h> it's the right most tab of software updates i believe
[20:54] <k1l> Hfuy_: see "rfkill list" if it says yes
[20:54] <Hfuy_> I have "software updater"
[20:55] <Sn0wCr45h> additional drivers is the right most tab
[20:55] <Hfuy_> Hmm, no, that just seems to be literally updates for existing stuff.
[20:55] <Sn0wCr45h> sorry software * updates
[20:55] <Sn0wCr45h> software & updates
[20:55] <Sn0wCr45h> in system settings
[20:56] <Hfuy_> I have a list under "get software", a list of installed software and an "apps basket"
[20:56] <nname> how do you make the screen brighter and dim
[20:56] <Jordan_U> Hfuy_: Let's just do this via the terminal.
[20:57] <Hfuy_> Oh hang on
[20:57] <Jordan_U> Hfuy_: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[20:57] <Hfuy_> I found an "additional drivers" button
[20:57] <Hfuy_> Apparently it's a single package
[20:58] <Jordan_U> Hfuy_: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[20:58] <Beldar> nname, There is a brightness app, some computers have  key set as well.
[20:58] <Hfuy_> OK, that's happening
[20:59] <nname> whats the brightness app called, my brightness keys arent working. im on a chromebook
[20:59] <Beldar> Sn0wCr45h, #ubuntu+1 is the 14.04 channel.
[20:59] <Hfuy_> Seems to be done.
[20:59] <Jordan_U> Hfuy_: Did it give you any prompts?
[20:59] <Hfuy_> nope
[20:59] <Hfuy_> It's been "extracting b43/lcn2bsinitvals25.fw" most recently
[21:00] <Jordan_U> Hfuy_: lsmod | grep b43
[21:00] <Sn0wCr45h> cheers Beldar
[21:00] <Hfuy_> Some stuff returned
[21:00] <Hfuy_> none of it really words
[21:00] <Hfuy_> um
[21:00] <Beldar> Sn0wCr45h, Heh, back at yah. ;)
[21:00] <Jordan_U> Hfuy_: None of what really works?
[21:00] <Hfuy_> words
[21:00] <Hfuy_> not works
[21:01] <doomlord_> are there any ways of doing something similar to apple airdisplay app (using an ipad as an additional monitor, literally shows up as an extra screen) with ubuntu & an android-tablet: i know of synergy (which is definitely of interest, but its not 100% the same )
[21:01] <Hfuy_> It's hard to express what lsmod returned
[21:01] <gimmic> random question time: If I've traversed into a directory via a symlink, is there a way to quickly 'pop out' to the real full path?
[21:01] <Stamos> Hi
[21:01] <Jordan_U> Hfuy_: Please pastebin the output of "nm-tool".
[21:02] <Baribal> Hi. I just tried to apt-get install libapache2-mod-wsgi and got a "subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" for my troubles. How do I figure out what the real problem is and how to fix it?
[21:03] <Hfuy_> one problem I have right now is that it doesn't seem to detect mousedown events when the mouse cursor is moving
[21:03] <zagaza> hi whats the command for copying a file to a new file with a new name?
[21:03] <Hfuy_> makes dragging windows and selecting text very difficult
[21:03] <zagaza> like mv file1 file2 only moves it, how to copy it but just change the name?
[21:03] <Hfuy_> pastebin.com/CbyEnzSe
[21:03] <k1l> zagaza: "cp"
[21:04] <zagaza> thanks k1l
[21:04] <k1l> zagaza: which is short for copy :)
[21:04] <zagaza> got it :)
[21:05] <Jordan_U> Hfuy_: Please pastebin the output of "lsmod".
[21:05] <Hfuy_> bear with me
[21:05] <Hfuy_> this mouse weirdness is... weird
[21:06] <Hfuy_> pastebin.com/6XGEbAyP
[21:06] <Jordan_U> gimmic: cd "$(realpath .)"
[21:06] <Jordan_U> gimmic: You'll need to install realpath first.
[21:07] <gimmic> that seems overly complicated
[21:07] <gimmic> cd -P ./ works
[21:09] <Hfuy_> Jordan_U: If you think this is going to take a significant amount of screwing around, I'll just give up and try mint. I'm honestly not making trouble, but this is ridiculous.
[21:10] <Hfuy_> I'm getting the ISO right now, so it'll be a few minutes
[21:10] <Jordan_U> Hfuy_: Try "sudo rmmod b43 && sudo modprobe b43".
[21:11] <Jordan_U> Hfuy_: D'oh, I gave you the wrong package to install for that card. sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer
[21:12] <Jordan_U> Hfuy_: The graphical widget would have chosen the correct one, for whatever that's worth.
[21:12] <scarrz> greetings all I am trying to start qjackctl and I can start it in the guest session ok! but... when my "user" tries to start it I get: Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory - Cannot connect to server request channel - jack server is not running or cannot be started... I have settings saved somewhere from an old linux install but do not know what to delete to get a "fresh" qjackctl start. help?
[21:15] <Hfuy_> hey
[21:15] <Hfuy_> running that last command locked up the whole OS
[21:15] <Sn0wCr45h> scarrz : try the dudes in #jack, they will undoubtedly know
[21:15] <Jordan_U> Hfuy_: That's certainly unexpected.
[21:15] <Hfuy_> didn't want to seem rude by not coming back, but I think we're going to try something else now.
[21:15] <Jordan_U> Hfuy_: OK, good luck.
[21:16] <Console> If I'm ssh'ed through lish, what would be the best way to copy and paste contents of a file I piped an output to?
[21:17] <scarrz> thanks
[21:17] <Console> I can't just right click and select all
[21:18] <k1l> !away > kimiamania|BNC
[21:18] <willwh> Console: http://madebynathan.com/2011/10/04/a-nicer-way-to-use-xclip/
[21:18] <willwh> :)
[21:20] <strigga> Ahoi Maties - anybody got experience with gphoto2?
[21:23] <newuser> Hello...
[21:23] <adrenalink> Hello! I am on a notebook with Ubuntu 12.04 installed, but I can't completely shutdown the system. It seems that Ubuntu can't kill all remaining processes. How can I understand the problem? (google didn't help me.)
[21:23] <newuser> I was wondering if you guys could help me out with some unity settings?
[21:25] <newuser> I use two monitors and don't want to spend ~40 pixels between them so I disabled the launcher for my right screen. Is there a way to get the search back on the right screen that doesn't involve the dock?
[21:26] <newuser> is that possible or should I use another DE?
[21:28] <hylian> hello all
[21:29] <Sn0wCr45h> newuser : what are you trying to do ? have the launch bar on the left screen and just the searcg tool on the righ?
[21:29] <newuser> yea...
[21:29] <newuser> or both
[21:29] <newuser> depending on what is possible...
[21:29] <raub> adrenalink: see if you can still connect to the different terminal displays; one might be showing the system or other logs
[21:29] <Sn0wCr45h> hummm ... you can have full launcher on both but not just the search as far as i know
[21:30] <hylian> anyone know why audio skips sometimes on ubuntu?
[21:30] <newuser> I tried using autohide but it messed up mouse movement and I couldn't move things across screens
[21:31] <Sn0wCr45h> turn off sticky edges
[21:31] <Sn0wCr45h> it really does my head in
[21:31] <adrenalink> raub: no I can't. The last message I can see on the screen is that the system is powering off
[21:32] <adrenalink> raub: it  fails to kill all remaining processes
[21:35] <adrenalink> raub: I have been able to stop the Xserver and I tried to shutdown from a simple user mode screen. It also fails, but I can read the "dmesg". It says: "plymouth-upstart-bridge main process terminated with status 1"
[21:47] <shawnbon206> hey guys, i just did my first dist-upgrade after install, then the grub menu showed on the next boot, but not on every boot after that. can anyone explain?
[21:49] <Sn0wCr45h> if you hold shit at boot you can get it back up
[21:51] <shawnbon206_> http://hastebin.com/labihuqoma.vhdl
[21:56] <Preytell> Can someone tell me what the vmad-bin process is?
[21:57] <Preytell> nm, found it.
[21:57] <Preytell> man that was starting to drive me nuts.
[21:57] <kbrosnan> not virual mutually assured destruction i assume
[22:01] <Jordan_U> shawnbon206: Please pastebin your /etc/default/grub.
[22:02] <shawnbon206_> http://hastebin.com/gepepulotu.vala
[22:03] <shawnbon206_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1258597 i guess its documented here
[22:05] <shawnbon206_> what should i put it on if i only want a second to popup the menu if i need it in a recovery situation? grub_hidden_timeout=1 grub_timeout=0 ?
[22:06] <Jordan_U> shawnbon206: So you want the menu to always show for one second, and continue booting if there is no key press within that second?
[22:06] <mrkie> hey
[22:07] <mrkie> i remove a couple of packages with the ubuntu software center but now there is still a title left in the ubuntu software center when i pop down the button netxt to all software or installed, how can i remove it? because there are no packages related to it installed anymore
[22:08] <SuckAWein> i guess ubuntu's the better distro after all
[22:08] <SuckAWein> I was in the #debian channel
[22:08] <SuckAWein> and the ops there suck so much dick it makes paris hilton look like an anorexic trying to eat a sausage
[22:09] <willwh> bazhang++
[22:09] <shawnbon206_> wow, you think people would have better things to do than to see how many channels they can get banned from
[22:09] <k1l_> !guidelines | SuckAWein this channel is not for trolling, and ranting and foul language too
[22:09] <k1l_> !guidelines | SuckAWein
[22:10] <willwh> k1l_: he's gone
[22:10] <shawnbon206_> ok i made some changes to grub settings, gonna reboot and see what it looks like
[22:10] <Jordan_U> shawnbon206: First please pastebin your changes so I can check that they make sense.
[22:10] <Beldar> !narcissist ;)
[22:11] <shawnbon206_> http://hastebin.com/lupuyeceqe.ini
[22:13] <Jordan_U> shawnbon206: It would be more clear to use GRUB_TIMEOUT=1 and GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden .
[22:13] <Jordan_U> shawnbon206: (Completely removing GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT).
[22:14] <shawnbon206_> Jordan_U: will that still give me a chance to press shift to enter the menu when i need it?
[22:14] <Jordan_U> shawnbon206_: Escape rather than shift, but yes.
[22:15] <shawnbon206_> will it detect it if its simlpy held down right after POST? or do i need to spam it by pressing esc rapido :P
[22:16] <Jordan_U> shawnbon206_: I don't know. My guess would be the former, and if that is not the case then I can tell you how to accomplish what you want.
[22:16] <shawnbon206_> ok i will try it brb
[22:20] <hotmedal> I tried maximus on gnome 3.8.4 and did some other stuff like editing /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml . Now when I maximize firefox or nautilus, it goes blank, but I can still click on the things in it.
[22:20] <Beldar>  hotmedal What ubuntu release?
[22:20] <hotmedal> saucy
[22:23] <Beldar> hotmedal, You in the gnome shell or fallback?
[22:23] <hotmedal> I'm in gnome
[22:23] <Beldar> hotmedal, which one, do you understand the question?
[22:24] <hotmedal> I don't think I do
[22:24] <hotmedal> there is only one option for gnome on my login
[22:24] <Beldar> hotmedal, Is this a gnome ubuntu install or the standard with the unity desktop and you have installed the shell or fallback desktops?
[22:25] <Beldar> there is a gnome only install is why I ask
[22:25] <hotmedal> oh, it's a unity install, I installed gnome and xfce
[22:25] <Beldar> hotmedal, Did you remove unity?
[22:25] <hotmedal> no
[22:26] <Beldar> hotmedal, Ah, the only one de at the login is a misnomer, you know of the dropdown right? just trying to get on the same page and check some things people commonly do like de removal.
[22:27] <ahadnumber2> hotmedal whatdo you need assistance with again?
[22:27] <hotmedal> yes, some people had multiple gnomes
[22:27] <hotmedal> ahadnumber2:  I tried maximus on gnome 3.8.4 and did some other stuff like editing /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml . Now when I maximize firefox or nautilus, it goes blank, but I can still click on the things in it.
[22:27] <Beldar> hotmedal, How did you install gnome?
[22:27] <jpjacobs> Using DD: If not using seek or skip, it does not matter that much which blocksize dd uses, no? but speed of course, on a healthy drive?
[22:28] <hotmedal> Beldar: apt-get on 13.04, then upgraded to 13.10
[22:29] <Beldar> hotmedal, I mean the command or way gnome got installed, in 13.10 the gnome-shell is actually the ubuntu-gnome-desktop. Just trying to figure out if something is missing is all.
[22:30] <shawnbon206> Jordan_U i set it like this http://hastebin.com/wukahoxeco.ini and now its perfect for a single boot machine. there is a blinking cursor right in the top right corner which indicates when i should press esc. i can enter then menu 100% of the time without any added boot time
[22:30] <hotmedal> Beldar: I installed gnome-shell in 13.04, used it for a long time then upgraded ubuntu from the update manager, no reinstall of gnome if that's what you're asking
[22:31] <shawnbon206> theres still a moment when i see grub start to draw itself on screen but thats purely a cosmetic complaint. not worth fixing
[22:32] <Beldar> hotmedal, Cool, seems, as a guess on my part the de mods are the issue, I have never tried the maximus app.
[22:32] <shawnbon206> Linux is so awesome :)
[22:32] <hotmedal> Beldar: do you mean the extensions?
[22:34] <Beldar> hotmedal, extensions can be problematic, I use the shell and have a handful of the extensions. I was not commenting on that as we never discussed it. I mean adding maximus and this " and did some other stuff like editing /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml"
[22:35] <hotmedal> yeah that was what caused the problem. It wouldn't have if maximus had worked like it was supposed to
[22:36] <Beldar> hotmedal, You can reverse all you have done, and maybe start with maximus and help with it again, thats my general path. Anyway I'm not really helping you here, hope you get it figured out. ;)
[22:38] <hotmedal> thanks nonetheless
[22:40] <Jordan_U> shawnbon206: I'm not sure why you keep insisting on using the depricated GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT. It shouldn't hurt anything, but at the same time it's completely unneeded.
[22:46] <shawnbon206> Jordan_U youre right i commented it out and it had no effect. 0 is the default if its not otherwise set
[22:47] <shawnbon206> then the grubhiddentimeoutquiet option doesnt need to be there if its set to 0, because it cant show something for 0 second :)
[22:51] <Wug> does anyone have any experience with GTK
[22:52] <Jordan_U> shawnbon206: Just to confuse you more, even with "GRUB_TIMEOUT=10" you'd still never have the menu show unless shift was held, as the default for Ubuntu is to hide the menu (with zero timeout) in this way. In fact it's probably safer to use GRUB_TIMEOUT=10.
[22:52] <Wug> I find myself in a bit of a bind because it looks like unity is eating (or perhaps just not emitting) the iconify event when you minimize a window, leaving me without a way to detect it
[22:53] <Sampei> Ciao a tutti
[22:53] <Jordan_U> Wug: It's standard for compositing window managers, so that they can show previews of "minimized" windows.
[22:54] <zubuntu> hello
[22:54] <zubuntu> i am trying to setup icecast2 radio broadcasting with mixxx
[22:54] <Jordan_U> Wug: What do you plan for your app to do when it becomes minimized?
[22:54] <zubuntu> but MP3 LAME encoder doesnt work or doesnt exist
[22:55] <zubuntu> can somebody help me pls ?
[22:55] <zubuntu> it was just copy paste LAME_enc.dll in program files broadcaster folder in windows but i dont know how to do that with ubuntu
[22:56] <kostkon> !info libmp3lame0
[22:56] <Jordan_U> zubuntu: sudo apt-get install libmp3lame0
[22:56] <zubuntu> thank u Jordan_U  :)
[22:56] <Jordan_U> zubuntu: You're welcome.
[22:56] <zubuntu> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:56] <zubuntu> means already have it ?
[22:57] <shawnbon206> Jordan_U setting it to 10 and rebooting... shows menu for 10 seconds
[22:58] <zubuntu> Jordan_U:  it is still giving error :S
[22:58] <zubuntu> Mixxx cannot record or stream in MP3 without the MP3 encoder "lame".
[22:59] <Wug> Jordan_U: I've got several windows and need them to minimize simultaneously
[22:59] <zubuntu> is there any tutorial about that ?
[22:59] <Wug> i.e. user minimizes one, all minimize
[22:59] <zubuntu> i am googling but cant find :S
[22:59] <Jordan_U> shawnbon206: Please pastebin your complete /etc/default/grub. Unfortunately the hiding of the grub menu by default is not an upstream feature, and was never properly integrated with /etc/default/grub.
[22:59] <jhutchins> Wug: ctrl-alt-d?
[23:00] <Sn0wCr45h> zubuntu I use butt for streaming to icecast servers, but i believe it's only available on 12.04
[23:00] <zubuntu> Sn0wCr45h:   i think mixxx should broadcast too but couldnt set mp3 lame thingy :S
[23:01] <qin> Wug: move to other workspace to hide naughty stuff
[23:01] <Cygnus-X1> Anybody else having a problem with libreoffice segfaulting?
[23:01] <zubuntu> Sn0wCr45h:  what do u use for encoder ?
[23:01] <Wug> qin: I'm writing an application, not hiding my porn
[23:01] <Sn0wCr45h> i had a look at mixx .. but the driver support for my external soundcard is not great and as such i can't use my decks and timecode vinyl
[23:01] <zubuntu> ogg vorbis or MP3 ?
[23:01] <qin> Wug: it was due to lack of better adjective.
[23:01] <Wug> I have a "master" window, and a "slave" window that has no title bar
[23:02] <Wug> they are both fullscreen windows
[23:02] <Sn0wCr45h> i don't stream from the device thats runnin g my mixing software
[23:02] <shawnbon206_> Jordan_U: http://hastebin.com/mapebaxame.vala
[23:02] <Sn0wCr45h> so jack and butt
[23:02] <Wug> when I minimize the master, the slave should also minimize
[23:02] <Wug> this is an in-depth-y sort of a gtk question
[23:02] <Wug> the usual method does not work, because unity breaks it
[23:03] <zubuntu> Sn0wCr45h:  i have a free account from internet radio server
[23:03] <Sn0wCr45h> and as far as I know jack encodes my line in for but to stream in MP3
[23:03] <Sn0wCr45h> butt**
[23:03] <qin> Wug: there is swith in Apperance: http://askubuntu.com/questions/364424/superd-key-shortcut-does-not-show-desktop-in-ubuntu-13-10
[23:04] <Jordan_U> shawnbon206_: Ok, I guess I need to look at recent changes Ubuntu has made. Feel free to go back to what was working for you :)
[23:04] <zubuntu> so Sn0wCr45h  u use a device not server right ?
[23:04] <Sn0wCr45h> but if you have sound on the device you could just go with pulse audio and butt
[23:04] <Sn0wCr45h> no i stream to bot shoutcast and icecast with that
[23:04] <Wug> qin: I don't want to minimize every window, just the specific slave window associated with the master
[23:05] <zubuntu> hmm
[23:05] <shawnbon206_> Jordan_U: grub 2.02~beta2-8 on trusty btw
[23:06] <zubuntu> i guess if it doesnt work with mixxx i dont think it works with them either
[23:06] <Sn0wCr45h> and it's just software this end ... could just as easily be an mp3 rather than a dj'd input
[23:06] <zubuntu> it s mp3 lame issue i bet
[23:08] <Cygnus-X1> huh.  Fixed it, apparently.  rm -rf .config/libreoffice then apt-get autoremove libreoffice, then apt-get install libreoffice-calc libreoffice-writer
[23:10] <zubuntu> Sn0wCr45h:  i couldnt even install butt lol
[23:10] <Sn0wCr45h> i think it's only available for 12.04
[23:11] <zubuntu> i am using 12.04 already
[23:11] <qin> Wug: only Devilspie comes to my head, yet never used it with gnome3/unity
[23:11] <Sn0wCr45h> ok .. shouldn't have any probs installing it .. what error you get?
[23:12] <Wug> qin: that's a standalone program, not a GTK function call or something similar.  In any case, I suspect it listens for the exact event which is currently not working and will probably fail to detect minimized windows when running under unity
[23:17] <JamesMoriarty> Hi
[23:17] <kostkon> JamesMoriarty, hi
[23:18] <zubuntu> cant do it :S
[23:18] <zubuntu> Sn0wCr45h:   can u tell me how can i install butt ?
[23:20] <Sn0wCr45h> pm'd you a link to a walk through
[23:21] <awc737> why do Ubuntu OVZ templates feel so incomplete
[23:21] <awc737> locale is not set, there are weird ssl issues I never have experienced with a normal ubuntu install
[23:30] <ahaddatechinicia> will trusty use mir display manager?
[23:35] <justin_zw> Anyone know how to stop xchat-gnome from joining this literally every time I open it?
[23:36] <Beldar> justin_zw, remove the auto join
[23:36] <justin_zw> Where's that setting located?
[23:36] <justin_zw> I'm still a bit Linux stupid.
[23:37] <Beldar> justin_zw, In the first gui right side is a edit button, it leads to several options including autojoin
[23:38] <Beldar> I use hexchat a fork so going by memory
[23:42] <D3RP> hey peoples
[23:43] <justin_zw> I think I found a version that is highly unsupported or documented
[23:43] <justin_zw> So I'm just gonna go ahead and uninstall this and get that hexfork client you mentioned.
[23:44] <D3RP> So ive been having some issues, if anyone can help http://paste.debian.net/hidden/fad1e965/
[23:46] <D3RP> anyone?
[23:47] <D3RP> Ok, there 1526 people in this chatroom and not one other person is talking?
[23:47] <jpds> D3RP: Never heard of that package.
[23:48] <Beldar> D3RP, This a tar install from firefox rather than the repos?
[23:48] <D3RP> well that doesnt matter, i just need a command  to remov eone specific package
[23:48] <jpds> D3RP: sudo dpkg -P firefox-mozilla-build
[23:48] <D3RP> eg. no apt-get remove
[23:48] <Beldar> D3RP, Really, you will not answer questions, lol.
[23:49] <Beldar> what a dork
[23:49] <kostkon> D3RP, is it on ubuntu or debian?
[23:49] <jpds> Beldar: Dude, that was uncalled for.
[23:49] <D3RP> debain
[23:49] <kostkon> !debian | D3RP
[23:49] <kostkon> eer
[23:49] <Beldar> jpds, thanks daddy, lol
[23:49] <kostkon> D3RP, we only support ubuntu here
[23:49] <awc737> is it possible ubuntu will ever stop depending on debian?
[23:49] <D3RP> wel the guys in the debain sever wont help, so i figured next best thing
[23:50] <jpds> awc737: No.
[23:50] <justin_zw> Just wanted to say I just installed HexChat and can already tell this is much easier to use.
[23:50] <bazhang> D3RP, you're not in the channel
[23:50] <justin_zw> Thanks for mentioning it. Just wanted to say that.
[23:50] <D3RP> yeah, im in ubuntu
[23:50] <awc737> so in a way does canonical support debian? or help maintain it
[23:50] <bazhang> D3RP, /join #debian
[23:50] <jpds> awc737: Nothing to do with Canonical.
[23:51] <Beldar> awc737, This is support not Q&A.
[23:51] <D3RP> I just said theyre not helping
[23:51] <D3RP> thats why im here
[23:51] <jpds> D3RP: Right, and we can only help you with Ubuntu problems.
[23:51] <D3RP> well i just need a command to remove a specific program
[23:51] <jpds> D3RP: Already gave it to you.
[23:51] <jpds> D3RP: 23:48:40 < jpds> D3RP: sudo dpkg -P firefox-mozilla-build
[23:51] <D3RP> it didnt work
[23:52] <jpds> D3RP: Define "didn't work".
[23:52] <teward> D3RP, if you're using Debian you'll need a Debian channel, or ##linux
[23:52] <teward> D3RP, the other thing is "didn't work" is ambiguous, we need more details about what exactly you're seeing it say/do
[23:52] <D3RP> http://paste.debian.net/91099/
[23:53] <zubuntu> how to completely remove installed programs in ubuntu ?
[23:53] <Beldar> zubuntu, purge
[23:53] <jpds> zubuntu: apt-get remove --purge <program>
[23:53] <Xtremeasure> ^
[23:53] <zubuntu> i did purge
[23:53] <Beldar> zubuntu, IE sudo apt-get purge 'app'
[23:53] <pimpim> jpds,apt-get purge <program> is the same
[23:53] <jpds> pimpim: I know.
[23:53] <pimpim> ok
[23:53] <zubuntu> and then re-installed but still it has previous configuration
[23:54] <D3RP> THANK YOU jpds
[23:54] <Beldar> zubuntu, What is it?
[23:54] <D3RP> no idea
[23:54] <teward> D3RP, if you can see what it says it says to reinstall it first.
[23:54] <jpds> zubuntu: Then it's probably a default configuration.
[23:54] <zubuntu> mixxx
[23:54] <teward> D3RP, having said this, you're still on Debian, not Ubuntu, you really should be talking to #debian on OFTC or ##linux
[23:54] <kostkon> zubuntu, look for any hidden config folders in your home folder, maybe in ~/.config
[23:55] <zubuntu> where is the program files location of ubuntu?
[23:55] <zubuntu> usr/lib  ?
[23:55] <kostkon> zubuntu, or look for ~/.mixxx if it exists   ~/ means your home folder ie  /home/yourusername
[23:55] <jpds> zubuntu: Oh, you'll have to find out where it keeps user configurations in your home folder.
[23:55] <Beldar> zubuntu, use ctrl-h to show hidden, and look in .config as suggested.
[23:55] <zubuntu> ok
[23:55] <jpds> zubuntu: apt-get only purges things in /etc/
[23:55] <zubuntu> ~/.mixxx
[23:56] <zubuntu> found it
[23:56] <Sn0wCr45h> zubuntu : it will a hidden folder in home or a sub dir there
[23:56] <zubuntu> hm
[23:56] <zubuntu> i deleted inside ~/.mixxx
[23:56] <Guest29086> before i installed ubuntu 13.10 both of my external monitor was full screen and my laptop monitor had a border on the sides but now the external monitor has a border on the left side and the laptop has a border on both sides.  it is set at the only resolution where the settings will allow it
[23:56] <zubuntu> i hope it fix
[23:57] <Beldar> Guest29086, Have you updated and checked the additional drivers?
[23:57] <Guest29086> i have updates not check for additional drivers how do i do that
[23:58] <Beldar> Guest29086, upgrade first then look in software sources, last tab
[23:58] <Guest29086> Beldar,  do i need to reboot