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Unit193One activly developed, one not.00:00
OvenWerk1zequence: It looks like ubuntustudio-menu has been released. However the changelog in our branch still says UNRELEASED does that mean I should change that to trusty?04:35
OvenWerk1https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-menu/+bug/129535404:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1295354 in ubuntustudio-menu (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] Menu item for entangle is in the wrong sub menu" [Low,Fix released]04:37
OvenWerk1see the launchpad janitor entry at the bottom.04:37
OvenWerk1micahg: ^^04:38
OvenWerk1Or is there something else to do?04:39
elfyochosi: do we still want lightdm logs for lightdm-greeter hanging about after login?05:44
ochosielfy: actually i pushed a fix to the 1.8.4 release of the greeter that bluesabre did a few days ago and that dholbach just sponsored...08:14
ochosielfy: so what would in fact be more useful now would be if you could check if 1.8.4 fixes the issue for you08:48
ethermonkubottu isitout?09:17
ubottuYeah, yeah09:17
elfyochosi: yea - saw that turn up just as I posted in here :)12:17
starratsmorning elfy 12:25
elfyhi12:25
ochosielfy: sure, hope it actually fixes your issue ;) if you can reproduce any other greeter bugs, that's always welcome obviously13:05
Unit193ochosi: Oh, did you have Eric or someone take a look at the new method to find icons?13:15
Unit193xfce4-panel+broken menu icons.13:15
ochosiUnit193: yes, he posted a patch against garcon13:35
Unit193OH right, that was garcon, not the panel.  Well now I'll go fish it up and patch it.13:36
ochosiUnit193: it would be nice if you could put the patch in a MR for xubuntu...13:38
ochosi(or if you prepare it somehow and then hand it to jackson like last time)13:39
Unit193Well, figured Xubuntu would wait for someone to review and commit it.13:40
Unit193And, one more annoyance.  Too large icons in the indicator plugin, any way to fix?13:41
ochosiUnit193: yeah, re-introduce icon-scaling in the plugin...14:01
Unit193Building now at any rate.  (Assigned wrong, but xfce 10709)14:01
ochosiand as far as i can tell, it only affects indicator-application, because there we don't control the icons14:01
ubottuxfce bug 10709 in Applications Menu "Some icons not being displayed after upgrade to xfce4-panel-4.11.0" [Normal,New] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1070914:01
Unit193Awwh, dang.  Only way? :/14:01
ochosiyeah, well previously libindicator used to hand off pixmaps at a fixed size14:02
ochosibut as they need different scale-factors for hidpi support, they changed that and are using icon-names now14:02
ochosiwhich is generally a good move, but the indicator-plugin hasn't been updated accordingly yet14:02
Unit193Meh, that's the last "annoying" bug for trusty that I can think of now that garcon is fixed for me (samba counts as higher than annoying.)14:18
ochosibut yeah, i'm a bit annoyed by that too. e.g. spotify provides icons for its client in all sizes up to 512px, so really nice. but somehow i get the 16px icon upscaled and fuzzy14:18
ochosiyeah, sure, it's just a visual glitch14:19
Unit193So here's the thing, seems I use and like size 22. :P14:19
ochosii wonder whether just re-introducing the scaling code that was ditched earlier would help or whether things would have to be handled differently14:20
ochosiyeah, for most ppl that's an ok size14:20
ochosiUnit193: btw, one workaround is to create apparmor profiles and prevent the loading of certain appindicators. ideally you'll get a trayicon as fallback with a sharp icon ;)14:23
Unit193Hah. :P14:23
ochosiyeah, i know, fun, right? :D14:24
ochosifeel free to put that in the FAQ14:24
Unit193Garcon in ppa:unit193/xfce, not sure you still use that one.14:25
ochosiok ty14:28
ochosii presume it works as expected for you14:28
Unit193Technically not that exact build, but yes.14:29
Unit193Quite nice. :)14:29
brainwashwhat does it fix?14:31
Unit193Xfce bug 539514:32
ubottuxfce bug 5395 in General "Log out buttons get messed up." [Normal,Resolved: wontfix] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=539514:32
Unit193Err...14:32
Unit193xfce Bug 1070914:32
ubottuxfce bug 10709 in Applications Menu "Some icons not being displayed after upgrade to xfce4-panel-4.11.0" [Normal,New] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1070914:32
brainwashoh, I guess we need that fix for trusty14:33
ochosiok, if you guys can do some more testing of the patch, that'd be great, i gotta take off now for more RL work...14:34
ochosibbl14:35
brainwashochosi: new idea: only show big tooltips for image files15:52
brainwashI'll forward this idea upstream15:53
jhenkehi folks15:54
brainwashhello jhenke 15:54
elfyochosi: tbh - others were getting the issue - I've had it twice since it surfaced - I just promised I'd get logs ;)16:30
jhenkebtw folks, you can just use my given name, Jan, the irc nick was choosen mostly for uniqueness16:36
elfypeople will carry on using jhenke - tab complete works on that :)16:38
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=== Jan is now known as lenny
jhenkeelfy yeah, I know I also use it, still I find it better to also offer the real name instead16:41
brainwashI don't agree :D16:57
brainwashmakes things more complicated16:58
elfyusing tabcomplete is more complicated?16:58
brainwashno16:59
brainwashmixing nick and real name16:59
elfyaah yea 17:01
brainwashelfy: got a minute to test thunar from https://launchpad.net/~thad-fisch/+archive/test ?17:01
elfyI often use Kev on mails17:01
brainwashbug 127186117:01
ubottubug 1271861 in thunar (Ubuntu) ""Open with 'default app'" in right click context menu with wrong icon" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127186117:01
elfybrainwash: I will a bit later - juts got back in from work and could eat a scabby dog ... 17:01
brainwashsure17:02
elfybrainwash: looking now18:03
elfyfixes it18:04
lennyum I'm experiencing something strange: Enigmail claims I'm using gpg-agent for passphrase handling, but: "The program 'gpg-agent' is currently not installed"18:31
lennySolved it by apt-get purgeing it at installing enigmail from addons instead of package manager18:48
elfyUnit193: thanks :) seen the test report now18:58
ochosibrainwash: yup, that was what i was trying to imply as a sensible solution19:59
ochosii just think the benefit of shrinking the default size is minimal19:59
ochosimicahg: how about some more xubuntu-default-settings merges? we've got an open bug with respect to the default wallpaper that should be fixed20:00
jhenkegood night folks20:12
elfygood night jhenke 20:13
elfyhi ochosi 20:13
ochosihey there elfy 20:13
ochosijhenke: found an itch to scratch yet or need help? :}20:14
ochosijhenke: anyway, night!20:14
elfyhad no luck catching this guy assigned to the ibus bug20:15
Unit193elfy: Sure.  Finally was able. :)20:15
elfy:)20:16
ochosielfy: yeah, i mean i'm happy it is assigned to someone else now, but that doesn't mean it's gonna get fixed in time20:17
ochosiwho's the assignee?20:17
daniellis a bugreport considered a support or a development thing?20:19
daniellI don't have mouse control or internet access on my new xubuntu 14.04, and I'm not sure how to report the bugs20:19
Noskcajdaniell, What's the bug?20:19
NoskcajWhen you have internet, you should run "ubuntu-bug PACKAGE" from a terminal.20:20
NoskcajWhen you don20:20
Noskcaj't, go to another pc and use the report a bug feature in launchpad20:20
daniellcan I let it dump to a file?20:21
Noskcajdaniell, Yeah, although i'm not sure if that wil provide useful info. might as well try20:21
ochosiwow, no mouse-control or internet access20:21
ochosiso i take it you're not here using xubuntu 14.04?20:22
elfyochosi: guy called Aron Xu - chinese timezone 20:22
daniellyeah it kinda sucks. I suspect updates will solve my mouse troiuble, but no ethernet =(20:22
daniellochosi: no, this is a screen on my server20:22
elfyNoskcaj: afaik you can dump the report on the affected machine and then report using that from another machine20:22
ochosielfy: right, well that one at least really fixes ibus related stuff. just saw a recent update for ubuntu kylin by him20:23
Noskcajdaniell, There is a way you can update while offline, but it might need the mouse to work20:23
elfyyea 20:23
ochosianyhoo, i'll be back a bit latr20:24
elfydaniell: I think that you can use apport-bug --save20:26
elfyyou'll need to add the package name and a name for the file 20:27
daniellelfy: I just typed that in =p. Weird thing is internet worked while the installer was running20:27
elfythen you can apport-bug /path/to/saved/crash/file20:27
elfyon a machine with internet20:27
micomhello, wondering if i may  get involved into xubuntu project if im a c++ developer, i would look forward to join this project. It would be my first Open source experience.20:53
brainwashochosi: bu 129951621:06
brainwashbug 129951621:07
ubottubug 1299516 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) "Font rendering in some plugins is broken when the panel is vertical. " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129951621:07
brainwashtrying to figure out which package to use as target21:07
brainwashor just leave xfce4-panel21:08
brainwashkeep21:08
ochosibrainwash: what andrzejr_ said, it's actually a really old bug in the gtk2 murrine engine21:41
ochosishouldn't be hard to fix21:42
ochosiso try to get a hold of Cimi and motivate him to fix it ;)21:44
ochosii guess it's just a rare case that got overlooked21:44
ochosisame as with the mixed checkboxes21:44
ochosibut iirc NSchermer submitted a patch for those back in the day21:45
ochosinot sure it ever got applied anywhere21:45
brainwashdon't really care about the bug21:46
brainwashjust want to properly assign the report21:46
pleia2I lost track, does daily have wallpaper yet?22:04
knomeno...22:04
knome...still22:04
pleia2bah, can I download it somewhere so I can just toss it in for a screenshot?22:04
knomei guess we could/should ramp it up the sponsors queue22:05
knomehttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-art/xubuntu-artwork/trusty/download/262/xubuntutrusty.png-20140328011110-pzapco38rr1lecbs-1/xubuntu-trusty.png22:06
pleia2ty22:06
pleia2cute mousey mouse <322:07
* knome bows22:07
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brainwashbug 130051622:12
ubottubug 1300516 in dbus (Ubuntu) "upstart sessions needs to create upstart cache directory" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130051622:12
brainwash?!22:13
brainwashxubuntu session broken at the moment? 22:13

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