[00:00] One activly developed, one not. [04:35] zequence: It looks like ubuntustudio-menu has been released. However the changelog in our branch still says UNRELEASED does that mean I should change that to trusty? [04:37] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-menu/+bug/1295354 [04:37] Launchpad bug 1295354 in ubuntustudio-menu (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] Menu item for entangle is in the wrong sub menu" [Low,Fix released] [04:37] see the launchpad janitor entry at the bottom. [04:38] micahg: ^^ [04:39] Or is there something else to do? [05:44] ochosi: do we still want lightdm logs for lightdm-greeter hanging about after login? [08:14] elfy: actually i pushed a fix to the 1.8.4 release of the greeter that bluesabre did a few days ago and that dholbach just sponsored... [08:48] elfy: so what would in fact be more useful now would be if you could check if 1.8.4 fixes the issue for you [09:17] ubottu isitout? [09:17] Yeah, yeah [12:17] ochosi: yea - saw that turn up just as I posted in here :) [12:25] morning elfy [12:25] hi [13:05] elfy: sure, hope it actually fixes your issue ;) if you can reproduce any other greeter bugs, that's always welcome obviously [13:15] ochosi: Oh, did you have Eric or someone take a look at the new method to find icons? [13:15] xfce4-panel+broken menu icons. [13:35] Unit193: yes, he posted a patch against garcon [13:36] OH right, that was garcon, not the panel. Well now I'll go fish it up and patch it. [13:38] Unit193: it would be nice if you could put the patch in a MR for xubuntu... [13:39] (or if you prepare it somehow and then hand it to jackson like last time) [13:40] Well, figured Xubuntu would wait for someone to review and commit it. [13:41] And, one more annoyance. Too large icons in the indicator plugin, any way to fix? [14:01] Unit193: yeah, re-introduce icon-scaling in the plugin... [14:01] Building now at any rate. (Assigned wrong, but xfce 10709) [14:01] and as far as i can tell, it only affects indicator-application, because there we don't control the icons [14:01] xfce bug 10709 in Applications Menu "Some icons not being displayed after upgrade to xfce4-panel-4.11.0" [Normal,New] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10709 [14:01] Awwh, dang. Only way? :/ [14:02] yeah, well previously libindicator used to hand off pixmaps at a fixed size [14:02] but as they need different scale-factors for hidpi support, they changed that and are using icon-names now [14:02] which is generally a good move, but the indicator-plugin hasn't been updated accordingly yet [14:18] Meh, that's the last "annoying" bug for trusty that I can think of now that garcon is fixed for me (samba counts as higher than annoying.) [14:18] but yeah, i'm a bit annoyed by that too. e.g. spotify provides icons for its client in all sizes up to 512px, so really nice. but somehow i get the 16px icon upscaled and fuzzy [14:19] yeah, sure, it's just a visual glitch [14:19] So here's the thing, seems I use and like size 22. :P [14:20] i wonder whether just re-introducing the scaling code that was ditched earlier would help or whether things would have to be handled differently [14:20] yeah, for most ppl that's an ok size [14:23] Unit193: btw, one workaround is to create apparmor profiles and prevent the loading of certain appindicators. ideally you'll get a trayicon as fallback with a sharp icon ;) [14:23] Hah. :P [14:24] yeah, i know, fun, right? :D [14:24] feel free to put that in the FAQ [14:25] Garcon in ppa:unit193/xfce, not sure you still use that one. [14:28] ok ty [14:28] i presume it works as expected for you [14:29] Technically not that exact build, but yes. [14:29] Quite nice. :) [14:31] what does it fix? [14:32] Xfce bug 5395 [14:32] xfce bug 5395 in General "Log out buttons get messed up." [Normal,Resolved: wontfix] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5395 [14:32] Err... [14:32] xfce Bug 10709 [14:32] xfce bug 10709 in Applications Menu "Some icons not being displayed after upgrade to xfce4-panel-4.11.0" [Normal,New] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10709 [14:33] oh, I guess we need that fix for trusty [14:34] ok, if you guys can do some more testing of the patch, that'd be great, i gotta take off now for more RL work... [14:35] bbl [15:52] ochosi: new idea: only show big tooltips for image files [15:53] I'll forward this idea upstream [15:54] hi folks [15:54] hello jhenke [16:30] ochosi: tbh - others were getting the issue - I've had it twice since it surfaced - I just promised I'd get logs ;) [16:36] btw folks, you can just use my given name, Jan, the irc nick was choosen mostly for uniqueness [16:38] people will carry on using jhenke - tab complete works on that :) === lenny is now known as Jan === Jan is now known as lenny [16:41] elfy yeah, I know I also use it, still I find it better to also offer the real name instead [16:57] I don't agree :D [16:58] makes things more complicated [16:58] using tabcomplete is more complicated? [16:59] no [16:59] mixing nick and real name [17:01] aah yea [17:01] elfy: got a minute to test thunar from https://launchpad.net/~thad-fisch/+archive/test ? [17:01] I often use Kev on mails [17:01] bug 1271861 [17:01] bug 1271861 in thunar (Ubuntu) ""Open with 'default app'" in right click context menu with wrong icon" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1271861 [17:01] brainwash: I will a bit later - juts got back in from work and could eat a scabby dog ... [17:02] sure [18:03] brainwash: looking now [18:04] fixes it [18:31] um I'm experiencing something strange: Enigmail claims I'm using gpg-agent for passphrase handling, but: "The program 'gpg-agent' is currently not installed" [18:48] Solved it by apt-get purgeing it at installing enigmail from addons instead of package manager [18:58] Unit193: thanks :) seen the test report now [19:59] brainwash: yup, that was what i was trying to imply as a sensible solution [19:59] i just think the benefit of shrinking the default size is minimal [20:00] micahg: how about some more xubuntu-default-settings merges? we've got an open bug with respect to the default wallpaper that should be fixed [20:12] good night folks [20:13] good night jhenke [20:13] hi ochosi [20:13] hey there elfy [20:14] jhenke: found an itch to scratch yet or need help? :} [20:14] jhenke: anyway, night! [20:15] had no luck catching this guy assigned to the ibus bug [20:15] elfy: Sure. Finally was able. :) [20:16] :) [20:17] elfy: yeah, i mean i'm happy it is assigned to someone else now, but that doesn't mean it's gonna get fixed in time [20:17] who's the assignee? [20:19] is a bugreport considered a support or a development thing? [20:19] I don't have mouse control or internet access on my new xubuntu 14.04, and I'm not sure how to report the bugs [20:19] daniell, What's the bug? [20:20] When you have internet, you should run "ubuntu-bug PACKAGE" from a terminal. [20:20] When you don [20:20] 't, go to another pc and use the report a bug feature in launchpad [20:21] can I let it dump to a file? [20:21] daniell, Yeah, although i'm not sure if that wil provide useful info. might as well try [20:21] wow, no mouse-control or internet access [20:22] so i take it you're not here using xubuntu 14.04? [20:22] ochosi: guy called Aron Xu - chinese timezone [20:22] yeah it kinda sucks. I suspect updates will solve my mouse troiuble, but no ethernet =( [20:22] ochosi: no, this is a screen on my server [20:22] Noskcaj: afaik you can dump the report on the affected machine and then report using that from another machine [20:23] elfy: right, well that one at least really fixes ibus related stuff. just saw a recent update for ubuntu kylin by him [20:23] daniell, There is a way you can update while offline, but it might need the mouse to work [20:23] yea [20:24] anyhoo, i'll be back a bit latr [20:26] daniell: I think that you can use apport-bug --save [20:27] you'll need to add the package name and a name for the file [20:27] elfy: I just typed that in =p. Weird thing is internet worked while the installer was running [20:27] then you can apport-bug /path/to/saved/crash/file [20:27] on a machine with internet [20:53] hello, wondering if i may get involved into xubuntu project if im a c++ developer, i would look forward to join this project. It would be my first Open source experience. [21:06] ochosi: bu 1299516 [21:07] bug 1299516 [21:07] bug 1299516 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) "Font rendering in some plugins is broken when the panel is vertical. " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1299516 [21:07] trying to figure out which package to use as target [21:08] or just leave xfce4-panel [21:08] keep [21:41] brainwash: what andrzejr_ said, it's actually a really old bug in the gtk2 murrine engine [21:42] shouldn't be hard to fix [21:44] so try to get a hold of Cimi and motivate him to fix it ;) [21:44] i guess it's just a rare case that got overlooked [21:44] same as with the mixed checkboxes [21:45] but iirc NSchermer submitted a patch for those back in the day [21:45] not sure it ever got applied anywhere [21:46] don't really care about the bug [21:46] just want to properly assign the report [22:04] I lost track, does daily have wallpaper yet? [22:04] no... [22:04] ...still [22:04] bah, can I download it somewhere so I can just toss it in for a screenshot? [22:05] i guess we could/should ramp it up the sponsors queue [22:06] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-art/xubuntu-artwork/trusty/download/262/xubuntutrusty.png-20140328011110-pzapco38rr1lecbs-1/xubuntu-trusty.png [22:06] ty [22:07] cute mousey mouse <3 [22:07] * knome bows === slickyma2ter is now known as slickymaster [22:12] bug 1300516 [22:12] bug 1300516 in dbus (Ubuntu) "upstart sessions needs to create upstart cache directory" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1300516 [22:13] ?! [22:13] xubuntu session broken at the moment?