[01:02] <Wayward_Vagabond> My graphics seem to be stuck in 1024x768, the screen scales it up to 1200x900, then letterboxes it
[01:02] <Wayward_Vagabond> A full screen wine program crashed when starting, and it's been like that since
[01:03] <Wayward_Vagabond> Anybody know how to go about fixing this?
[01:22] <bazhang> check the appdb and join #winehq
[01:22] <bazhang> !appdb
[01:38] <kingplusplus> please anyone know where vim colors are stored in Xubuntu?
[02:36] <delt> Hello
[02:37] <delt> my X server is still beign run with "-nolisten tcp" ....i removed that from my /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc AND i added that option in lightdm.conf
[02:44] <delt> nm, just had to reboot... looks like logging out wasn't enough
[02:48] <delt> holstein: oh did i tell you my midi keyboard works on one of the back USB ports on this new motherboard :D :D
[02:49] <holstein> delt: congrats!
[02:49] <delt> i just occasionally get this kernel message: [  169.251686] urb status -32
[02:49] <delt> but works perfectly, no skipped notes, or anything
[02:50] <holstein> sounds ignorable
[02:51] <delt> anyway it's good to have a working (and modern) desktop machine after several weeks using just a laptop
[02:52] <delt> ok, so what was the font manager app that came with 13.04, that let the user view/install/uninstall fonts? it doesn't seem to be present in 14.10......
[02:55] <delt> ah, kfontview... it was there on my laptop because i installed the kde stuff
[02:55] <delt> holy shit, After this operation, 132 MB of additional disk space will be used.
[02:55] <delt> that has a lot of deps
[03:01] <holstein> !langauge > delt
[03:03] <delt> oh, sorry about that.
[03:04] <delt> english isn't my native language, so
[03:04] <delt> english isn't my native language, so
[03:04] <delt> gaaah
[03:04] <delt> english isn't my native language, so "harsh" language sometimes doesn't seem too "harsh" to me
[03:04] <bazhang> delt, it means no cursing
[03:05] <delt> yeah, that's what i figured... again sorry about it
[03:09] <delt> is there a package that install all microsoft fonts like verdana, arial, etcetc...?
[03:09] <Artemis3> yes
[03:09] <kupo_> well. must say. so far upgrade to 14.04 has been fine. and it finally fixed my screen saver issue on both computahs. way to go folks
[03:10] <holstein> delt: i usually just get "ubuntu-restricted-extras". but it has other things in it.. you should be able to search for them
[03:11] <delt> cool, what other stuff is in that package?
[03:11] <bazhang> xubuntu-restricted-extras if he's using xubuntu, right?
[03:11] <delt> anyway i installed the verdana ttf's and pianoteq
[03:11] <kupo_> search fonts on synaptic. can find some stuff
[03:11] <delt> anyway i installed the verdana ttf's and pianoteq's font is back to normal =)
[03:12] <cfhowlett> bazhang, correct
[03:12] <bazhang> mscorefonts-installer , let me check
[03:12] <Artemis3> its called ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[03:12] <delt> ttf-mscorefonts-installer is already the newest version.
[03:13] <Artemis3> so you have it
[03:13] <delt> guess this answers my question -- The following NEW packages will be installed: \n gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse libfaac0 libmpeg2encpp-2.1-0 libmplex2-2.1-0
[03:15] <delt> oh also, i mentioned this i think a few weeks ago... sometimes there's a bug that makes TAB completion in term windows no longer works.... the tab key behaves like if some other modifier is pressed - similar to alt+tab, but not exactly
[03:15] <delt> i have to close down my X session to fix it.... it's quite annoying
[03:15] <delt> doesn't happen very often, but when it does, that's the only way to fix it :/
[03:16] <Artemis3> Xubuntu 13.10? i havent encountered it yet
[03:16] <delt> happened on my laptop with 13.04 as well
[03:16] <delt> 13.10 or 13.04, can never remember which :3
[03:17] <Artemis3> you might have the alt key getting stuck or something
[03:17] <delt> that's what i first thought, but it's not the case
[03:17] <delt> + same thing happens on the desktop machine
[03:17] <delt>  pressing and releasing all the modifier keys (shift, alt, ctrl...) usually fixes bugs like this, but this one nope..
[03:19] <delt> there might be a way with xmodmap, but i haven't found it
[03:34] <ktulu1776> Hi guys... Noob question here. My top of screen menu (Unity Menu?) is gone. Not a panel, but the thin constant bar on top with time, Applications Menu, windows, network, etc
[03:35] <holstein> ktulu1776: you are running xubuntu? and you have lost the xfce panel? the top one?
[03:35] <ktulu1776> Right
[03:36] <holstein> ktulu1776: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels#Restore_your_Xfce_panel_settings
[03:36] <ktulu1776> So the xfce panel is what I want, not Unity?
[03:36] <holstein> ktulu1776: if you are not running unity, then, correct.. not unity
[03:37] <holstein> ktulu1776: xubuntu has xfce panels.. not unity menus
[03:37] <ktulu1776> I'm in xubuntu. I am in terminal installing unity now though :-/
[03:37] <holstein> ktulu1776: ok..
[03:37] <Artemis3> i would just rename ~/.config/xfce4 :)
[03:37] <holstein> ktulu1776: you can follow the instructions i gave to restore you panels.. its a lot like what Artemis3 just suggested
[03:37] <ktulu1776> I thought that was the name of the top menu. I'll try the instructions on your link when this is done
[03:38] <Artemis3> if you attempt to install unity, you will experience a lot of trouble
[03:38] <ktulu1776> I have the panel at the bottom
[03:38] <holstein> well, its more than an attempt.. its coming in now
[03:38] <ktulu1776> should I cancel this Terminal installation of Unity?
[03:38] <holstein> you can try "sudo apt-get autoremove unity"
[03:39] <holstein> ktulu1776: depends on what stage its in
[03:39] <holstein> ktulu1776: if its still downloading only, you can usually control c that and be OK
[03:39] <holstein> ktulu1776: i would leave it be if you are not sure
[03:39] <Artemis3> or maybe it wont do anything but i haven't tried
[03:40] <Artemis3> i should pull a lot of dependencies
[03:40] <Artemis3> it
[03:44] <delt> why not just create a dummy account and copy over the panels config from there?
[03:46] <kupo_> yay. finally got tamsyn fonts working. didn't know about that cache command
[03:47] <kupo_> wouldnt purge unity be better?
[03:48] <ktulu1776> Argh
[03:49] <holstein> well, at this point "better" doesnt matter.. it would be better to have not installed it
[03:49] <holstein> but, it will be easy to remove. and i would try "sudo apt-get auto-remove unity" and just read what is getting removed
[03:50] <holstein> delt: the "reset" proceedure above just gets a defaut, out of the box panel configuration
[03:50] <Artemis3> i wonder if installing unity pulls the gtk global menu thing
[03:50] <ktulu1776> "Package unity is not installed, so not removed"
[03:50] <Artemis3> or the dissappearing scroll bars
[03:50] <holstein> delt: the same result as making a new account, and pulling them in
[03:50] <holstein> ktulu1776: ok.. dont over think it
[03:50] <Artemis3> might be some other ubuntu-desktop package :)
[03:51] <holstein> ktulu1776: you can use the up arrow to see what you actually installed
[03:51] <holstein> ktulu1776: first thing i would do is, "Fix" your problem.. reset your panels, and just logout and back in
[03:51] <holstein> ktulu1776: if everything is fine, just leave it alone
[03:51] <delt> i must say, xubuntu / ubuntustudio is a really nice OS, i like it a lot.
[03:52] <kupo_> I installed lxde on other computer to try it out. when I purged it . all the bloat was gone and same stuff as my xfce. it was nice. but I guess it didn't delete.. thought it would have
[03:53] <cfhowlett> kupo_, lxde only???
[03:54] <ktulu1776> I'll show you guys what I have now. One sec
[03:54] <ktulu1776> Thanks holstein
[03:54] <ktulu1776> http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-03312014-105229pm.php
[03:55] <kupo_> yes. installed lxde on xubuntu system
[03:55] <holstein> ktulu1776: you can either fix that panel, or reset them as the link i gave will do
[03:55] <holstein> ktulu1776: you can right click, and get to many options, that i suggest playing with on a live CD, or in the guest account
[03:55] <kupo_> i just find xfce to look much better and everything. though i have never explored open box much.
[03:56] <cfhowlett> kupo_, sudo apt-cache purge lxde
[03:56] <kupo_> but very glad upgrade to 14.04 has been fine so far and fixed my screensaver/blank screen bug that a lot of people have
[03:57] <kupo_> ok. i'll try that thanks
[03:57] <Artemis3> what bug is that?
[03:57] <kupo_> invalid command it says.
[03:58] <ktulu1776> i just don't have the ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/ directory needed for that reset instructions
[03:58] <kupo_> a bug that turns your screen saver or turn off monitor every ten minutes if idle. even when watching videos
[03:58] <kupo_> i googled and very common. but light locker or whatever seemed to do its job right
[03:59] <delt> kupo_: check settings -> power manager
[03:59] <delt> in my experience it kind of conflicts with the screen saver settings
[03:59] <holstein> ktulu1776: you can look in a file manager, in .config/xfce4
[03:59] <kupo_> yeah i did it all. the only fix was a command   xset -dpms  etc
[03:59] <kupo_> every time i booted
[03:59] <kupo_> it's fine now. problem resolved with 14.04
[04:00] <holstein> ktulu1776: you can just move that entire xfce4 folder out of the way, or rename it, and get default settings
[04:00] <kupo_> solved*
[04:00] <delt> doesn't the "power manager" applet simply execute xset with the right parameters?
[04:00] <holstein> ktulu1776: you should have ~/.config/xfce4/panel
[04:00] <ktulu1776> OK, I just renamed /user/.config/xfce4, I'll restart now?
[04:01] <holstein> ktulu1776: you dont need to restart, but you can... as i said, just logging out and back in will do
[04:01] <ktulu1776> I have that, but not xfconf
[04:01] <ktulu1776> OK, back in a sec
[04:01] <holstein> ktulu1776: i dont see any references to that for addressing the panel reset
[04:02] <holstein> xfconfd is not a directory
[04:02] <holstein> pkill xfconfd is a command
[04:02] <kupo_> what's the command to restart xfce without logging out? i know it was r and -r for gnome
[04:02] <ktulu1776_> Woohoo, thanks to the computer genius, holstein!
[04:02] <ktulu1776_> :-P
[04:02] <kupo_> on alt +f2
[04:03] <holstein> ktulu1776: enjoy
[04:04] <ktulu1776_> thanks! So that xfce folder holds user prefs for the desktop interface, and when deleted, defaults are restored?
[04:04] <holstein> ktulu1776: correct.. deleted, moved, or removed, or renamed
[04:04] <ktulu1776_> Great. Learning bit by bit here. Thanks all
[04:04] <delt> what's the difference between pkill and killall?
[04:05] <delt> from the manpage, seems to do the same thing
[04:11] <delt> quick question, how do i enable my user account to run a separate X server?
[04:16] <kupo_> found bug in 14.04  leafpad don't seem to work. closes when you go to menu or right click. if anyone else has had problem
[04:17] <delt> *sigh* now i killed my account, can't log in :/ where's the desktop manager log file again?
[04:19] <delt> keeps bouncing back to the login screen.
[04:20] <kupo_> *mousepad not leafpad. sorry
[04:20] <xubuntu959> hola
[04:20] <xubuntu959> NEcesito ayuda
[04:20] <xubuntu959> Con xbuntu, intento instalarlo
[04:20] <xubuntu959> Pero no he podidp
[04:20] <xubuntu959> No he podido
[04:21] <cfhowlett> !it|xubuntu959,
[04:21] <delt> zapato cabeza y caramba
[04:21] <cfhowlett> !es
[04:21] <delt> yo no espaniolo
[04:23] <delt> anyway, i'm on a text console right now, how do i check the desktop manager log file for errors?
[04:23] <delt> /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log contains only lines that start with DEBUG:
[04:23] <delt> what should i look for in that file?
[04:27] <delt> ok, found the error, it was my .Xauthority file that somehow caused problems
[04:30] <delt> yay, i'm back in :D
[04:33] <delt> this could be quite problematic for beginner users....
[04:33] <bazhang> file a bug then delt
[04:34] <delt> i kept the .Xauthority file that prevented me from logging in, dunno what happened to it
[04:36] <delt> earlier i was futzing around with running a separate X server, that must be what caused the problem
[04:45] <delt> oh, how do i press F1 in a terminal? the UI intercepts it and asks me if i want to read the online docs.....
[04:46] <delt> which is kind of annoying when i need to press F1 in a textmode program like alsamixer
[06:01] <shawnbon206> yo
[06:01] <ethermonk> hi
[06:01] <shawnbon206> is the beta 14.04 installer considered safe to use at this point?
[06:02] <cfhowlett> shawnbon206, support for unreleased versions (14.04) = #ubuntu+1       channel
[06:02] <bazhang> still a bit more than two weeks away
[06:02] <cfhowlett> !isitout|bazhang,
[06:02] <bazhang> expect breakage
[06:03] <bazhang> ubottu, shaddap
[06:03] <cfhowlett> bazhang, is the !isitout factoid retired?
[06:03] <shawnbon206> does a dist-upgrade usually work? i am installing for the first time i would hate to reinstall in 2 weeks
[06:03] <bazhang> cfhowlett, not that I know of, it's mostly used in #u-r-p
[06:04] <bazhang> !final | shawnbon206
[06:04] <cfhowlett> #u-r-p   ?  never been there.
[06:04] <bazhang> shawnbon206, dist-upgrade is not a version upgrade
[06:04] <shawnbon206> ok thanks ubottu . will do
[06:04] <bazhang> !party
[06:04] <bazhang> cfhowlett, ^
[06:05] <cfhowlett> bazhang, sot it.
[06:05] <cfhowlett> *got*
[06:05] <shawnbon206> er, thanks bazhang :) i accidentally thanked the bot lol
[06:05] <bazhang> hehe
[06:06] <bazhang> cfhowlett, that chan wont be open for ten or more days yet iirc
[06:06] <shawnbon206> does dist-upgrade work differently on ubuntu? on debian thats what i usually do
[06:06] <bazhang> around 4/15-16-ish I'd reckon
[06:07] <cfhowlett> bazhang, I've never been the type who feels compelled to see a Day 1 of release upgrade
[06:07] <bazhang> yep
[06:07] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade
[06:07] <shawnbon206> !upgrade
[06:07] <bazhang> debian is a bit different in that regard
[06:09] <shawnbon206> hmm
[06:09] <shawnbon206> ok gonna pull the trigger
[06:09] <shawnbon206> its an old imac i am completely getting rid of osx and windows
[06:11] <bazhang> get the daily then, #ubuntu+1 as cf howlett indicated earlier
[06:12] <ethermonk> ^
[06:13] <shawnbon206> why the daily when the beta is only 4 days behind it?
[06:15] <bazhang> the daily will become the beta...
[06:15] <ethermonk> about 600MB in updates plus some fixes in the install process it's self if i remember correctly
[06:17] <elfy> please read the blog notes for it - it references the release notes and the b1 notes - http://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-14-04-final-beta/
[08:31] <Pierre_> Hi everybody ! I am struggling installing correctly the last Xubuntu Version on my pc. My problem is the internet connection, would anyone of you like to help me with this? Thanks in advance.
[08:37] <Pierre_> I runed Ubuntu 11.04 perfectly well for few years and then I wanted to update to the last Xubuntu. I never had any trouble with Internet before, neither on Vista nor Ubuntu. During Install and when running a live session, my wired connection worked just fine. Unfortunately, when all the install is over, it ended with no connections at all (no wifi/no wired)
[08:38] <Pierre_> I tried again and again to reinstall various versions (Ubuntu/Xubuntu) and it's the same
[08:38] <Pierre_> I reinstalled vista and it works fine (well as fine as vista is able to)
[08:39] <Pierre_> Please I need your help as I don't want to get Microshit back
[08:47] <ethermonk> what wifi chipset? what xubuntu version?
[08:56] <Pierre_> hi ethermonk, thanks for your help
[08:57] <Pierre_> this is xubuntu 13.04, my laptop is a Dell Inspiron 1501 and the wifi chipset is a Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g
[08:58] <Pierre_> (ethernet : BCM4401-B0 100Base -TX)
[09:00] <ethermonk> thats going to be a problem
[09:00] <ethermonk> 13.04 is eol, and 14.04 is not going to support your wifi card. you can still run 13.10 which does work with the !b43
[09:01] <ethermonk> !broadcom
[09:03] <Pierre_> Ok... What do you mean "13.04 is eol" ?
[09:03] <ethermonk> support has ended for 13.04.
[09:04] <ethermonk> but the answer is the same. install the drivers located on the install disk, ubottu can PM you the link when i say !broadcom | Pierre_
[09:11] <ethermonk> Pierre_  i have that b43 in several of my laptops. had to replace them all with this $8 wifi adapter in preparation for 14.04 LTS: http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=105&cp_id=10501&cs_id=1050108&p_id=8072&format=2
[09:12] <Pierre_> Are you telling me that there is no way for me to solve this out than buying a new wifi-device ?
[09:13] <ethermonk> no i gave you a link to the directions on how to install the drivers, then i gave you advise on a new wifi adapter because in the future, it wont work on upcoming releases
[09:15] <ethermonk> starting with next month's release of 14.04
[09:15] <ethermonk> wait, thats this month.
[09:15] <ethermonk> need to flip the calendar  :P
[09:16] <bazhang> 16 days!
[09:16] <bazhang> ubottu, isitout?
[09:16] <bazhang> really?
[09:16] <ethermonk> ?!
[09:16] <ethermonk> lol
[09:17] <bazhang> 4/17 final
[09:20] <Pierre_> ok I'll try now the link solution... Thanks for your help and good night to you
[10:55] <jarkko_> God Bless
[12:15] <nikolam> This clipboard applet stopped woking for me recently.
[12:16] <nikolam> It used to work, now just display some window on click, that has just one line visible above panel and bloks any input to any app
[12:16] <nikolam> only ESC resumes focus to other app
[14:44] <xubuntu229> have just installed xubuntu 13.1 and to my dismay there is no support for my nvidia 440mx (nvidia 96*** package). I downloaded the correct package from nvidia and tried a manual install by booting into recovery mode (ie no X server) but the entire hard drive was read only and the nvidia installation failed. Ubuntu documentation is not at all clear on how to manually install this driver (the hard way as they rightly put it).
[14:52] <Artemis3> xubuntu229, did you try 12.04?
[14:53] <Artemis3> or even 10.04 that card is awfully old, isn't nouveau working with it?
[14:56] <xubuntu229> yeah I did, been using 12.04 for a while and it recognises the graphics card and allows updating of the nVidia driver with one click - no problems. In the 13.1 release the one click update only covers card from the geforce 5 and upward, the 96*** driver is not supported whether this is because its been completely dropped or will only be supported in LTS releases I dont know. I'm well aware the card is old - am saving for new comp
[14:57] <koegs> the legacy driver is not compatible with the latest xserver
[14:59] <xubuntu229> so my only option then is to revert to 12.04, at least until I get new hardware?
[15:01] <xubuntu229> nouveau isn't really working at all well get lots of artefacts and random windows transparency or white out problems.
[15:02] <Artemis3> xubuntu229, hmm what would i do, is that a motherboard with built in nvidia?
[15:02] <Artemis3> i happen to have one of those around, havent used it for years lol
[15:04] <Artemis3> the problem with old nvidia drivers is that they were made to work with older kernels only, it would be best if the nouveau driver worked, maybe help at #nouveau or something?
[15:04] <xubuntu229> its a separate card 440mx 128mb, know that's rubbish but its not worth paying out for an upgraded graphics card when the rest of the system is about 12 years old - even if I could find a better card anyway.
[15:05] <Artemis3> you sure the card is working properly with the nvidia binary blob?
[15:05] <Artemis3> in that case head to #nouveau and try help them get the data on that card
[15:07] <xubuntu229> on 12.04 had full, or as full as it would go :-(  3d acceleration. Yeah you prob did lol, think i'm prob going to weep ol.
[15:08] <Artemis3> then stick to 12.04, and try help the nouveau guys if you can
[15:08] <Artemis3> you need package nvidia-96
[15:10] <xubuntu229> yeah I'll get intouch with them, always good to help if you can. I've got the 96 package, just dont know how to drop to console without the xserver still running - except for booting in recovery mode to console but then the hard drive is read only.
[15:11] <Artemis3> no i don't recommend you try to install that package with newer versions, just use precise
[15:11] <Artemis3> it will probably fail anyway
[15:13] <xubuntu229> ok then, its a bit annoying cos xfce in 13.1 is a much improved interface. Looks like I'll just have to wait till have enough cash for newer system. Anyway thanks for your help, much appreciated.
[15:14] <Artemis3> you might have some luck using xfce ppa with 12.04
[15:14] <Artemis3> important thing is to stay with the older kernel
[15:15] <Artemis3> so install 12.04, and maybe try ppas for the software you need updated
[15:16] <xubuntu229> ok - will get on installing that now. Once again thanks.....
[15:17] <Artemis3> yw
[16:16] <ben_xyzzy_> How do I manually mount an external drive? Automount is intentionally disabled.
[16:24] <GridCube> !mount
[16:48] <RFleming> Greetings!  How does one modify likewise-open5's home directory?
[16:49] <RFleming> /home/likewise-open/DOMAIN/username kinda stinks :)
[17:56] <fullgripBR> hi there, quick question: to install xubuntu on vmware I choose ubuntu as the target OS, right? pls do not guess talk, just for who did it already ok...
[17:57] <knome> fullgripBR, please understand that people here are volunteers, and usually guess talk is the best we can offer you.
[17:58] <knome> well, not usually, but sometimes..
[17:59] <fullgripBR> ok
[18:00] <fullgripBR> will google then, thx
[18:00] <knome> now having said that, i haven't installed xubuntu in vmware, but i can't imagine why setting ubuntu as the target OS would be wrong; xubuntu does share the ubuntu core.
[18:01] <knome> but if you insist on "you have to have done it" -information, then good luck searching for the answer
[18:06] <fullgripBR> knome, u r dead right, vmware even detects as Ubuntu... as seen here... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59kwwtg3fIg
[18:07] <fullgripBR> so i will wait 4 d image to download and it's problem solved, no need to make a blank vm in advance
[18:07] <fullgripBR> thx for your time dude
[18:42] <delt> hello
[18:42] <delt> what's the best way to install the nvidia drivers on xubuntu / ubuntu studio?
[18:43] <cfhowlett> !nvidia
[18:43] <delt> ah, thanks
[18:47] <delt> btw on my laptop, (the "settings manager" had a drivers item) installing the nvidia drivers resulted in the nice "linux for creative humans" spinning logo gone, and a textmode screen with 4 flashing dots instead. just wondering....?
[18:48] <cfhowlett> delt, " linux for creative humans" is the ubuntustudio motto - not xubuntu
[19:44] <daniell> hey there, I just installed the latest 14.04 beta over my old ubuntu gnome 13.04. I preserved my old encrypted home dir on a different partition. Installation went ok, but after the first reboot I'm now at the login screen and it hangs
[19:44] <daniell> no mouse/keyboard response
[19:45] <cfhowlett> daniell  until released, 14.04 support = #ubuntu+1
[19:47] <daniell> cfhowlett: allright I'll have a look there
[19:54] <nikolam> uh, suddenly audio mixer in xfce panel stopped doing it's job...
[19:54] <nikolam> not reacting to volume changes. dunno
[19:59] <nikolam> removing and adding mixer applet to panel and it started managing audio again
[20:21] <jocke> hi all,  do xubuntu provide some kind of "live search"  ?  (like spotlight in OSX)
[20:22] <ochosi> jocke: nope
[20:22] <ochosi> if you mean one that combines online and offline, then certainly no
[20:22] <ochosi> if you just want a file-search, you can use catfish
[20:24] <jocke> ochosi, I was more looking for a tool that let me use the keybord instead of the mouse for common tasks,  like for example I use  "apple+space+fi" to open firefox under OSX
[20:25] <ochosi> jocke: in that case you have two options
[20:25] <ochosi> 1) assign kb-shortcuts to applications (settings-manager -> keyboard)
[20:26] <ochosi> 2) use some launcher tool (e.g. xfce4-appfinder by default on alt+f2, or from 14.04 onwards whiskermenu bound on ctrl+esc)
[20:31] <jocke> ochosi, Whisker Menu seems to be what I am looking for, I running the live CD now so I can't install but this application is provided for 13,10 as well right ?
[20:41] <jocke> I realized I  can run apt-get  even if I run the DVD so I been able to install   whiskermenu,  this was exactly what I was looking for,  thank you!
[20:41] <jocke> ochosi, thanks!
[20:57] <jocke> Is it possible to map "apple+space" to open the  whiskermenu ?
[21:08] <Artemis3> i think so
[21:08] <Artemis3> jocke
[21:10] <Artemis3> configuration -> keyboard -> shortcuts ? you should just call whiskermenu (not sure what the name is)
[21:11] <jocke> Artemis3, I don't understand how, In the last answer here:  http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=110&t=139752   there are no option for shortcut
[21:11] <jocke> Artemis3, sorry did not see your answer while typing
[21:11] <Artemis3> ignore mint
[21:13] <jocke> Artemis3, It was just that that is the only description over how to set this I been able to find
[21:13] <Artemis3> but mint doesn't even use xfce by default
[21:14] <Artemis3> no wonder you didn't get the answer there
[21:15] <Artemis3> oh live search? i wonder what is that? you can both search installed apps and there is another to search files
[21:16] <Artemis3> in a default xubuntu install, you will see at the botton panel the two magnifying glasses for these
[21:20] <jocke> Artemis3,  what do you mean with "the botton panel" ?  can't find the "the two magnifying glasses"
[21:20] <Artemis3> the one that looks like a dock
[21:21] <Artemis3> in a default install you get the icons there
[21:21] <Artemis3> when you move the cursor all the way to the bottom
[21:21] <jocke> hehe, unbelievable I did not see the dock until now!
[21:21] <Artemis3> its hidden by default
[21:22] <Artemis3> well looks like a dock, but its just another panel
[21:22] <jocke> ok, now I understand
[21:25] <jocke> Artemis3, earlier I write this:   I was more looking for a tool that let me use the keybord instead of the mouse for common tasks,  like for example I use  "apple+space+fi" to open firefox under OSX.. this is why I installed  whiskermenu (as a spotlight replacement)) .  The only problem is that I don\t know how to set the keymap
[21:26] <Artemis3> its right there where i told you
[21:26] <Artemis3> you just add a new one, and press the keys, then you put the command you want to run
[21:27] <jocke> *sorry for my spelling. my keyboard are not behaving as normal
[21:27] <Artemis3> its ok, im worse
[21:28] <hylian> hello al
[21:28] <hylian> *all
[21:31] <jocke> hmm, sorry I don't follow you.  add what?  press what?
[21:32] <jocke> Artemis3, above message was to you
[21:32] <Artemis3> menu > setting manager > keyboard > shortcuts  if your language differs the words will change
[21:33] <Artemis3> or is it configuration then settings manager?
[21:37] <jocke> Artemis3, OK, so I am able to open the dialog box  "Shortcut Command"     menu > setting manager > keyboard > Application Shortcuts > add (button)
[21:37] <Artemis3> yes thats it
[21:39] <jocke> the problem is that the  field for "Shortcut" are not available. There are only a field for "command"
[21:40] <Artemis3> also check above and replace the defaults :)
[21:40] <Artemis3> command goes first
[21:40] <Artemis3> then it will ask you which keys
[21:41] <Artemis3> you can set up many shortcuts here
[21:42] <Artemis3> some window manager related shortcuts are defined in the window manager settings instead
[21:42] <Artemis3> and its a good place to learn the defaults or change em
[21:45] <delt> Hello
[21:46] <delt> just wondering, after installing the nividia drivers, the splash screen gets replaced by a textmode screen with 4 flashing dots.... why?
[21:46] <delt> and how do i set it back to normal?
[21:50] <delt> oh and btw, the nvidia driver package did NOT ask me to reboot, or tell me that changes would be applied only on reobot.... as a user i had to "guess" that
[22:23] <Artemis3> delt, you have done well, intuition is part of the game :)
[22:25] <Guest65155> Artemis3, did you get my message ?  (not sure if my IRC client work)
[22:26] <Artemis3> type it here again
[22:26] <Guest65155> hi,  this is me how try to set up a application luncher,  My computer freeze so I think i better try to install xubuntu before i try to change anything.  I will try your suggestions then ,thanks !
[22:27] <Artemis3> oh you did this in a live iso?
[22:29] <Guest65155> yea ,,,  now I can't even find the name of the application I downloaded before  : )     Can you see it in the logs?  whiskybar something ?
[22:30] <Guest65155> *logs   =  what I been writhing here before
[22:32] <knome> Guest65155, i guess you are talking about whiskermenu
[22:33] <Guest65155> knome, yes, that was the name, thanks
[22:33] <Guest65155> I will write it down now  : )
[22:36] <Artemis3> install and then you can come back and ask again
[22:36] <Artemis3> Guest65155
[22:39] <Guest65155> Artemis3, yes i will not install anything again using the DVD, just wanted to know the name of the app.
[22:39] <Artemis3> ok
[22:39] <Guest65155> I really like xubuntu, you don't get all that amazon crap that comes with Unity.   Still I can't decide  if I should try Debian as well before I install Xubuntu.   My question is if somebody here been going down this path.  To try to get Debian to work on my macbook might be difficult ?
[22:40] <bazhang> ask in #debian
[22:40] <Artemis3> you might have to work a little more
[22:40] <Guest65155> I guess what I am asking is how big difference it is between xubuntu and debian
[22:41] <Artemis3> because ubuntu includes proprietary drivers and PPAs
[22:41] <Artemis3> The Xubuntu team makes a pretty theme you will lose as well
[22:41] <Artemis3> but i guess you can just install it
[22:45] <Guest65155> Artemis3, yes,   I have a macbook and I don't want to spend hours installing a system that will give me a lot of problem using the touchpad, multi monitors and so on.  If somebody else done this and giving up I don't want to repeat that process.
[22:46] <Artemis3> in Debian you need to do more work to set up your system, it might be simple or not i can't say because i don't have a macbook :)
[22:46] <Guest65155> It is a bit of a problem in the free software world that people don't tend to give negative reports  :  )
[22:46] <Artemis3> there is a hardware database for ubuntu somewhere
[22:47] <daniell> is having xubuntu beta1 and updating it the same as having a fully updated beta2 and once it's out a stable 14.04?
[22:47] <daniell> or will I need to reinstall the stable 14.04 when it comes out
[22:47] <Artemis3> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Laptops
[22:47] <Artemis3> daniell, no its the same if you just upgrade
[22:47] <bazhang> !final
[22:48] <Guest65155> Artemis3,  thanks, see you later
[22:51] <daniell> Artemis3: nice