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lazyPowerValduare:  o/01:02
Valduareo/01:02
Valduarehows it going01:02
lazyPoweroh wow, a solid 3 hours later. heh heh01:02
Valduarelol01:02
lazyPowerGood. Just got back from a pretty decent burger chef01:02
Valduarei’ve been sitting here for 3 hours waiting for someone to respond to my hey guys … I didnt want to be rude and leave anyone hanging01:03
Valduarejk :P01:03
lazyPowerhah well its my mistake for not reading the timestamp :)01:05
webbrandonis juju local working okay now?01:13
ValduarelazyPower: im still not up and running with juju01:15
Valduarekeeps bugging out01:15
Valduareim at point now where it wont let me add machines at all01:15
lazyPowermeaning the manual provider workspace has all but given up hope?01:17
lazyPoweryou can no longer spin up a new vm and register it?01:17
lazyPowerthe existing vm's are dirty and wont respond to any deployment commands? they just fail?01:18
lazyPoweri'm reaching here, whats it doing?01:18
Valduareall of the above01:21
Valduareso I spun up a new vm fresh install of ubuntu and cant even provision it01:21
Valduarehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1300264 I got this bug listed01:21
_mup_Bug #1300264: manual provisioning requires target hostname to be directly resolvable <manual-provider> <juju-core:Triaged by axwalk> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1300264>01:21
lazyPoweroi01:27
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Valduarepretty fancy bug - its triaged :P01:28
lazyPoweri blame sarnold for all of he above Valduare. Not that he really did anything...directly... but he makes a great scapegoat01:28
lazyPowersarnold: we're still buds right?01:28
Valduarelol01:28
sarnoldlazyPower: <301:29
lazyPowersarnold: <301:29
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AskUbuntuClarification on JuJu for web apps and pages | http://askubuntu.com/q/44225907:25
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overm1ndhazmat I did not get what I need to do for the arch constraint08:28
overm1ndit's a juju client problem?08:29
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rbasakfrankban: FFe in bug 1282630 approved, but could you please confirm that my statement in comment #5 was accurate?11:19
AskUbuntuconversion from commencing to ready state in maas | http://askubuntu.com/q/44235011:39
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hazmatoverm1nd, output?12:08
hazmatoverm1nd, from -v verbose mode12:08
hazmatoverm1nd, juju should be detecting the host arch when ssh'ing and retrieving the correct tools for it12:08
overm1ndhi hazmat in PVT for the log12:11
frankbanrbasak: yeah quickstart 1.3 does not require 1.18, it just includes changes to make quickstart work well on 1.18. rick_h_: relatedly, what's the plan for FFe vs upcoming quickstart changes (e.g. joyent and/or maas provider support)?12:13
hazmatoverm1nd, what's the cli your using?12:13
hazmatoverm1nd, are you passing --upload-tools12:13
hazmati think i might have defaulted that to on.. which is the problem12:13
overm1ndI'm not doing anything special12:13
overm1ndI just added the arch param12:13
overm1ndjuju docean bootstrap --constraints="mem=512M, region=ams2, arch=amd64" -v12:15
overm1ndthis is the command I'm using12:15
rick_h_frankban: we can ask rbasak if it'll be possible to get a late update or else we'll just have to make that a ppa release.12:17
rick_h_frankban: wev'e been delayed so long with things not sure if it's possible to still get it in trusty or not12:18
frankbanrick_h_: ack, ok thank you. the joyent fixes we needed seems to be landing now, so the joyent card could be unblocked very soon12:19
rick_h_frankban: yea, with the delay we've had in that I've assumed we probably won't be able to get that into trusty12:20
rick_h_frankban: but we can ask/check if there's some way12:20
overm1ndhazmat I see, --upload-tools is passed when creating the machine12:25
overm1ndbut I don't get why it should be ommitted12:25
overm1ndit's not mandatory to have juju tools on the started new machine?12:26
hazmatoverm1nd, juju will pull the right binaries on its own12:29
overm1ndah ok12:29
hazmatoverm1nd, upload-tools is there because its simple reliable, juju pull binaries mechanism involves a few roundtrips to query various sources.12:30
overm1ndso it's failing because architecture are different between the client and the machine12:30
hazmatbut upload-tools will fail in this case12:30
hazmatbut the pull of binaries would work12:30
overm1ndunderstand12:30
overm1ndand the pull is based on the arch param I will pass right?12:31
hazmatoverm1nd, no.. thats ignored.. for manual provider juju is going to inspect the machine via ssh and determine the architecture12:32
overm1ndok12:32
hazmatmanual provider == docean plugin12:32
overm1ndthank you I will try to mess with the code to exclude the upload-tool12:33
hazmatoverm1nd, fix pushed to git12:34
overm1ndyou are super kind and fast!12:34
hazmatoverm1nd, your welcome.. let me know if that solves it for you12:34
overm1ndsure12:35
overm1ndhazmat working great :)12:42
hazmatoverm1nd, awesome, i'm gonna push a new release, there's a few other minor fixes.12:42
overm1ndagree12:42
lazyPowerHazmat are you still sprinting?12:45
hazmatlazyPower, no.. just bcsaller ... i'm running :-)12:45
lazyPowerZombies? :)12:45
hazmatapocalypse happens12:45
lazyPowerI'm in your neck of the woods is why I ask.12:46
lazyPowerNext time we'll have to coordinate and have an outing12:47
hazmatlazyPower, ah.. sounds good.. your dc or sf?12:48
lazyPowerI'm in DC until tomorrow afternoon12:48
onreamarcoceppi: could you help me to completely remove juju and reinstall it from scratch! you may want to a glance at this thread: http://askubuntu.com/q/436975/15240513:28
marcoceppionrea: what platform are you on?13:30
onreacan*13:30
onreaUbuntu 13.1013:30
onrea64 bit13:30
marcoceppionrea: sudo apt-get purge juju-core juju juju-local13:31
onreaI've copied these two file manually to /var/cache/lxc/cloud-precise13:33
onreahttps://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/server/releases/precise/release-20140227/ubuntu-12.04-server-cloudimg-amd64.tar.gz (229 MB) https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/server/releases/precise/release-20140227/ubuntu-12.04-server-cloudimg-amd64-root.tar.gz (223 MB)13:33
onreashould I delete them, too?13:33
onreaWhat about these packages: postgresql-9.3, charm-tools, cloud-utils13:34
rbasakI'm getting "agent-state-info: '(error: template container "juju-precise-template" did not stop)'"13:36
rbasakIt's still going - just a particularly slow machine. I can recover afterwards, but is this timeout tunable anywhere?13:37
rbasakI can't find any environments.yaml reference documentation.13:38
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jcastrolazyPower, wasn't there something in the queue to update owncloud?14:57
lazyPowerjcastro: yeah thats part of the ceph update that zchander wrote14:58
jcastrois that in the queue I can't see it14:58
lazyPowerit needs a bit more work, but its coming along nicely14:58
lazyPoweri already reviewed it and sent it back with requested mods14:58
lazyPowerdo you need the link?14:58
jcastroyes please14:58
lazyPowerjcastro: https://code.launchpad.net/~xander-h/charms/precise/owncloud/ceph-support14:59
jcastrothat guy was on irc wasn't he?15:00
lazyPowerzchander: <-- he's here.15:01
jcastrohey maybe we should have cherry picked the version upgrade15:04
avoineanyone have ever seen an lxc machine that gets terminated as soon at it connect to the api server?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7194643/15:06
jcastro agent-state-info: '(error: error executing "lxc-start": command get_cgroup15:12
jcastro          failed to receive response)'15:12
jcastroanyone see that before?15:12
hatchhmm thats a new one15:12
jcastrooh I know why, nevermind!15:12
jcastroI am trying to LXC inside a local deployment, duh15:12
lazyPowerJcastro the upgrade was incomplete. It needed the mysql db migrations15:13
jcastrolazyPower, ahh, I see15:14
jcastrohazmat, is `to: lxc:0` a valid line for a deployer file?15:17
jcastroI want to stick all the services in this bundle on 0, in containers15:17
jcastrobut if I do "to: 0" for each service that's hulksmash right?15:18
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avoinenevermind, I forgot to add the backports on precise for lxc15:29
hazmatjcastro, http://pythonhosted.org/juju-deployer/config.html#placement15:34
jcastroyep I read that15:35
hazmatdouble checking re 0..15:35
hazmatjcastro,  yeah that should work kvm:0 and lxc:015:37
* hazmat adds a unit test for that one15:38
hazmatjcastro, in general if you can i recommend doing the co-location form especially for distributed bundles15:39
hazmatjcastro, ie you can get the entire bundle into a single machine using colocated services  that's not the bootstrap machine15:39
hazmatwith containers15:39
hazmatjcastro, otherwise when people are pulling in these bundles, their going to overload their machine 0 if they pull more than 115:40
hazmater.. use more than one compact bundle15:40
jcastrohazmat, this one is more specifically for a VPS case15:40
jcastrolike, I want to go cheap15:40
hazmatjcastro, fair enough ... have you tried the docean plugin ? ;-)15:41
jcastroI have not15:41
hazmatjcastro, well its tailored made for the go cheap15:41
jcastroare your instructions awesome?15:41
hazmatjcastro, i think so.. they beat the heck out of the deployer docs .. ;-)15:41
hazmatjcastro, https://github.com/kapilt/juju-digitalocean15:41
hazmatjcastro, you tell me15:42
jcastroI liked the docs, they provided examples, just not the one I was looking for15:42
jcastroI'll give it a shot later today15:42
hazmatjcastro, the wording on them is tortorous and geeky..  re deployer.. i could barely parse it and i wrote it.15:42
hazmatjcastro, like what the heck does this mean "The serenade service is overriding the default deploy-with unit by explicitly specifying a unit index for the deployment. These are not unit id based but rather based on extant unit count of the remote service starting with 0."15:43
jcastroI had never even heard of serenade15:43
hazmatjcastro, its an example service in the placement docs of deployer15:43
jcastrohazmat, I can fix it up, where do the docs live? I can do that later15:43
hazmatjcastro, there in the source tree for deployer.. lp:juju-deployer15:44
hazmatcd docs15:44
jcastroack15:44
hazmatsphinx and rst :-)15:44
gnuoyI was happily using the lxc provider this afternoon was suddenly it stopped working after a juju destroy-envirnment. I can bootstrap fine but when I try and provision a machine its gets stuck in pending. I've cleared out /var/cache/lxc/. The only smoking gun I can find is in the machine-0.log:15:45
gnuoyERROR juju runner.go:220 worker: exited "environ-provisioner": no state server machines with addresses found15:45
gnuoywhat state server machines is it referring to (or is this a red herring) ?15:46
rick_h_rbasak: juju is making a change that breaks quickstart that they're aiming for 1.18. We've gotten through our original FFE, is there something we can do/file to let us get one more update in so that we don't have broken juju/quickstart combo in trusty?15:49
rbasakrick_h_: this concerns me. What happens in the future if juju makes another change that breaks quickstart?15:50
rbasakrick_h_: it sounds to me that --distro-only needs to be the default then.15:50
rbasakOtherwise the juju-quickstart in Trusty could forever be broken.15:50
rbasakjamespage: ^^15:50
jamespagerick_h_, rbasak: this is a fix, not a new feature right?15:51
rick_h_rbasak: yes, the email about it went out overnight. frankban we can support both paths right? e.g. it'll be backwards compatible and we're just missing the forward working side?15:51
rbasakrick_h_: setting that aside...15:51
rbasakYeah15:51
rbasakFor the immediate problem, we can just distro-patch a fix or something.15:51
rbasakNo FFe needed for that.15:51
rick_h_rbasak: jamespage yes, so this is a fix, they're moving where you get ip address info. Quickstart needs to grow support for the new location15:52
rbasakBut I do think there's a bigger problem here, and we need to address it. Otherwise we're just putting it off until after Trusty release, when we won't be able to fix it, or have far more limited options.15:52
rick_h_rbasak: ok, thanks. We should have a fix before EOW.15:52
jamespageyes - no FFe needed15:52
rick_h_rbasak: well, I'm not sure even distro-only would help. The idea is that juju updated and we need to stay in sync. If they get a non-distory juju, from a ppa, then quickstat is in that ppa and would upgrade?15:53
rick_h_we're getting a last minute heads up on the change before their stable release15:53
rbasakrick_h_: we have the opportunity of fixing it in distro - we can upload both a new juju-core that breaks things, and a new juju-quickstart that can accomodate that change.15:57
rbasakrick_h_: however, after release, if juju-quickstart in Trusty uses the PPA by default, then users using the distro juju-quickstart will get a new juju-core from the PPA, and that will forever be broken.15:58
rbasakrick_h_: an SRU might be possible in that situation, but I don't think it's appropriate to have that breakage happen, and need an SRU, for end users.15:58
bloodearnestI am trying to workaround public ip address changes on a unit not firing hooks by blocking in the hook, and waiting for 'unit-get public-address' to change15:59
rick_h_rbasak: yea, good point and I follow it now.15:59
rick_h_talking with frankban about it15:59
bloodearnestbut it never does, even after juju status is reporting a public ip15:59
rbasakrick_h_: ack. To make it clear, I'm fine with uploading a fix for the immediate issue.15:59
rick_h_rbasak: +115:59
bloodearnestI understand that some other charms use the same workaround, but I haven't found them16:00
rbasakbloodearnest: I'm not an expert in this area. But my understanding is that your hook should exit, and you'll have a hook fire again when something changes.16:00
* rbasak isn't sure how that applies to public-address though16:01
bloodearnestrbasak: sadly that doesn't yet work for public ip address changes16:01
rbasakAh16:01
bloodearnestor volume changes16:01
rbasakWhat's a volume change?16:01
bloodearnestrbasak: when a new volume is added or removed from the instance16:02
rbasakIs there a big piece I'm missing here? What does juju know about "volumes"?16:02
rbasakIs there any documentation on that, please?16:03
* rbasak is interested.16:03
bloodearnestrbasak: juju knows nothing about volumes yet, that's the problem :)16:05
bloodearnestrbasak: charms know about volumes though16:05
rbasakbloodearnest: you get a udev event there though, right? So you can call back into a hook context using juju-run.16:05
bloodearnestrbasak: the postgresql charm would be a good place to look16:05
bloodearnestrbasak: if you're running the development release, yes. We're in 1.16 in prod.16:06
bloodearnestbut I need to deploy this ASAP16:06
bloodearnestrbasak: once 1.18 is out, then this hacky workaround will be replaced by a less hacky workaround :)16:07
rick_h_rbasak: talked with frankban and we agree distro default will be done with this bug fix to make that work16:13
rick_h_rbasak: the only thing we'll need to look at with you as a follow up is that we want anyone that gets quickstart from pypi to get the ppa by default16:14
rick_h_rbasak: but you use that for the packaging in the distro, so we'll need to agree on some way to have that setting flipped. But that can go after we get 1.18 unblocked16:14
rbasakrick_h_: ack. Hold fire for a few minutes though? otp.16:14
rick_h_rbasak: rgr16:15
rbasakrick_h_, frankban, jamespage: I filed bug 1301481. Is there a bug for the immediate issue?16:33
_mup_Bug #1301481: juju-quickstart will be broken in Trusty after juju-core updates in its stable PPA <juju-quickstart (Ubuntu):Triaged> <juju-quickstart (Ubuntu Trusty):Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1301481>16:33
rick_h_rbasak: yep #130146416:34
_mup_Bug #1301464: The mega-watcher for machines does not include containers addresses <addressability> <api> <juju-gui> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1301464>16:34
rbasakrick_h_: thanks. Just to check, we should have juju-core in Ubuntu and juju-quickstart in Ubuntu tasks for these, right, since we need to track when they are fixed in each corresponding Ubuntu package?16:35
rick_h_rbasak: hmm, yes, you're right.16:35
rbasakOK, thanks. I'll do that now.16:36
rick_h_thanks rbasak16:36
rbasakbloodearnest: ah, that makes sense. Thanks!16:38
jamespagemarcoceppi, gnuoy: nice easy one for either of you if you have time - https://code.launchpad.net/~openstack-charmers/charm-helpers/icehouse/+merge/21388816:52
marcoceppijamespage: ack16:53
jamespagemarcoceppi, ta16:57
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webbrandonGlad there is a manual environment.  Anything I should know about the manual environment usage. Set an 12.04 LTS server up as virtual machine host and install juju,python-pycurl, and openssh packages. anything else?17:29
marcoceppiwebbrandon: don't install juju, just install openssh17:32
webbrandondamn, too late, lol17:33
webbrandonmarcoceppi: thanks17:33
tvansteenburghmarcoceppi: make develop in amulet complains about missing setuptools...17:37
marcoceppitvansteenburgh: then your venv didn't setup17:38
marcoceppitvansteenburgh: make clean_all17:38
marcoceppithen make develop17:38
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tvansteenburghwell i have to make venv first right?17:39
tvansteenburghmarcoceppi: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7195228/17:40
marcoceppitvansteenburgh: ah, so python three venv isn't working17:42
marcoceppitvansteenburgh: what version of Ubuntu are you on?17:42
tvansteenburghtrusty17:42
tvansteenburgh2 tvansteenburgh@trusty-vm:~/src/amulet⟫ venv/bin/python --version17:43
tvansteenburghPython 3.4.017:43
tvansteenburghtvansteenburgh@trusty-vm:~/src/amulet⟫ venv/bin/python -m ensurepip17:43
tvansteenburgh/home/tvansteenburgh/src/amulet/venv/bin/python: No module named ensurepip17:43
marcoceppitvansteenburgh: is python3-pip installed?17:43
webbrandonhow can I make juju treat my manual environment set up virtual machines on its own instead of using 'juju add-machine user@host' and more like when I add a service though say aws.17:43
marcoceppiwebbrandon: you can't17:44
marcoceppiwell, other than use maas17:44
webbrandonman my typing is bad today17:44
tvansteenburghmarcoceppi: just installed it17:45
webbrandonmarcoceppi: thanks,  Maybe I will try MASS.17:45
marcoceppitvansteenburgh: do a clean_all then make install again17:45
tvansteenburghsame error17:45
tvansteenburghi wonder if i can install ensurepip with pip17:45
tvansteenburghheh17:45
tvansteenburghapparently not17:46
marcoceppitvansteenburgh: do you have python3-setuptools ?17:47
tvansteenburghyeah17:48
marcoceppithe make file was written for saucy17:48
marcoceppiso there is probably something missing17:48
webbrandonif anyone is into Altcoin mining I would live you participation: https://github.com/webbrandon/mpos-charm (dont pay to much attention to readme, been a week since i updated it.)17:49
tvansteenburghmarcoceppi: my python 3.4.0 is missing what stdlib module for some reason17:50
tvansteenburghs/what/a/17:50
tvansteenburghso maybe not the makefile at fault17:50
marcoceppitvansteenburgh: wat17:50
tvansteenburghi can try reinstalling python from source i guess?17:50
marcoceppitvansteenburgh: uhhhh, I wouldn't17:51
tvansteenburghyeah, no `ensurepip`17:51
marcoceppitvansteenburgh: I was looking at this17:51
marcoceppihttp://bugs.python.org/issue1940617:51
marcoceppintos ure if it helps17:51
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webbrandonsorry to be buggin today.  Im am working with manual environment on 12.04 LTS as virtual machine host and when I want to add a new machine it says :ERROR machine is already provisioned.  Tried all methods of adding but it gives me the same everytime,  what did I miss or is something wrong?18:03
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webbrandonor do I actual need to creat my own virtual machines and connect to those?18:05
webbrandonthink I missunderstood the manual environment.  SWitching to MASS per your suggestion marcoceppi18:06
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tvansteenburghmarcoceppi: got it to work with this:18:13
tvansteenburgh-       python3 -m venv venv18:13
tvansteenburgh+       python3 -m venv venv --without-pip18:13
marcoceppitvansteenburgh: cool18:16
marcoceppitvansteenburgh: makes sense since we install pip later on18:16
tvansteenburghright18:16
marcoceppitvansteenburgh: pull req welcome :)18:17
tvansteenburghyeah, will do18:17
tvansteenburghtwittersphere just sent me this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.4/+bug/129084718:19
_mup_Bug #1290847: Command "python3 -m venv" fails if "--without-pip" isn't given <python3.4 (Ubuntu):Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1290847>18:19
marcoceppitvansteenburgh: yeah18:31
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dannfno.. when you setup a private openstack cloud - how does juju know what images map to what releases, etc? is it expected that you setup your own simple stream of data?18:53
dannfs/no/so/18:53
lemaook, I got the same "[Errno 111] Connection refused" again but this time while using JujuBox. The issue showed up after I vagrant suspend and vagrant resume20:05
lemaoThe issue is shown in the juju-gui20:06
lemaomaybe there is a service not running after a reboot?20:06
lemaoI can actually access wordpress (the juju I deployed) fine, but not juju-gui20:07
rick_h_lemao: is this in Firfox?20:09
lemaosafari20:09
rick_h_lemao: there's a known issue where firefox has issues re-establishing the websocket connection when the machine the gui runs on is reboot20:09
lemaorick_h_: and this was working yesterday with a fresh JujuBox vagrant box launched20:09
lemaorick_h_: is there a workaround?20:10
rick_h_lemao: looking for the bug second20:10
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rick_h_lemao: hmm, so using chrome worked. Closing and reopening the browser maybe? It's a card of work to investigate atm20:11
lemaorick_h_: ok. Let me try it.20:12
webbrandonokay getting started with maas has raken longer then exprected20:36
webbrandononly reason im doing this is because of aws storage size for single host.  they need to make tools that integrate their server environments directly into their S3 bin by default when reaching local capacity ;0)20:39
Fishy__where do the logs go for the maas server you can normally HTTP to20:43
mwhudsonFishy__: /var/log/mass on that host iirc20:45
mwhudsoner maas obv :)20:45
Fishy__celery.log is showing the wrong ip, hummm20:45
Fishy__or maybe my webserver isn't running at all?20:51
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bachi marcoceppi, i've proposed a branch for charm-tools that i'd like you to look at when you've got a chance: https://codereview.appspot.com/83700043.  it makes it easy to point charm-proof at different instances of charmworld for bundle proofing.21:04
Valduarehows it going guys21:09
sarnoldhey Valduare :)21:10
sarnoldlazyPower: see? no waiting three hours :P21:10
Valduarelol21:11
Valduarevery nice21:11
Valduareim getting this channel trained up right! :P21:11
lazyPowersarnold: clever :P21:11
sarnoldlazyPower: :D  <321:11
Valduareif I brew uninstall juju21:12
Valduarehow can I make sure everything is cleaned up21:12
lemaorick_h_: It seems that a service was not running in the juju-gui machine. I had to 'sudo restart jujud-unit-juju-gui-0' and it is now working21:20
lemaorick_h_: maybe the Javascript cached in the browser was trying to connect to the missing service.21:21
lemaoone other problem I am having with this Vagrant/JujuBox setup: juju debug-log # I get: Permission denied (publickey,password).21:24
lemaohowever, juju ssh testcharm/0 works fine21:25
lemaowhat is juju debug-log trying to do? ssh into each of the machines?21:26
Valduarehow much memory does juju-bootstrap vm need21:32
lemaook, debug-log is trying to ssh into machine-0, which doesn't have the juju key in the authorized_keys file. This seems to be a problem with JujuBox21:35
lemaowellll, the private key has a paraphrase so this must be another f...g user error21:41
lemaothanks for listening :-)21:41
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Valduaregah22:38
Valduarei dont get it22:38
Valduarei’ve made all new vm’s and cant provision them22:38
davechen1yValduare: what output are you seeing ?22:42
Valduarehmm22:42
Valduarethink I just found something odd22:42
Valduarethe juju-bootstrap my user account on there’s using my sparkleshare id_rsa key  not the one from .ssh/ dir22:42
Valduareugh22:43
Valduarere-installing the vm’s again from scratch and this time doing a snapshot of fresh install lol22:54
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Valduarequestion23:22
Valduaresince my VMs are behind NAT23:22
Valduareshould i be tunneling into the juju-bootstrap?23:23
Valduareso it can run the commands with their local ip23:23
Valduareinstead of trying to port forward specific ssh ports for each vm23:23
lemaoOk, I destroy'ed and up'ed the JujuBox vagrant box, vagrant ssh'ed into the box and juju debug-log will not work - so this doesn't seem to be a user error. Where should I report this?23:24
webbrandonarrg can't get by commisioning23:39
davechen1yValduare: before we move on to that question, i'm still waiting for detalis for your first request of 09:4223:43
Valduaremy history dosnt go back that far23:44
Valduarewhat did i say23:44
davechen1y09:38 < Valduare> i’ve made all new vm’s and cant provision them23:45
davechen1y09:38 < Valduare> i’ve made all new vm’s and cant provision them23:45
davechen1y09:38 < Valduare> i’ve made all new vm’s and cant provision them23:45
davechen1y09:38 < Valduare> i’ve made all new vm’s and cant provision them23:45
Valduareah23:45
davechen1y< Valduare> i’ve made all new vm’s and cant provision them23:45
Valduareso I blew away the vm’s and started from scratch23:46
Valduareeven uninstalled juju with brew uninstall23:46
Valduarethen re-installed 1.17.723:46
Valduareand it is not able to add machines23:46
Valduareno host found23:46
Valduaregoing to log into ubuntu brb23:49
ghartmanncan we bootstrap envs in the trusty 14.04 beta ?23:51
davechen1yghartmann: yes and no23:52
davechen1yyes you can deploy cs:trsuty/ubuntu23:52
davechen1ybut that is about it23:52
ghartmannI am getting an error when trying to bootstrap23:54
ghartmannand it seems to be related with 1.17 solved in 1.1823:55
davechen1yghartmann: can you give some details please23:55
ghartmannsudo juju bootstrap used to work on 13.1023:56
ghartmannit seems that now we can't run it as sudo23:56
davechen1yghartmann: which provier are you using ?23:56
ghartmannlocal provider23:56
davechen1yghartmann: do the docs say to use sudo ?23:56
* davechen1y isn't sure, this has changed23:57
davechen1yoh look23:57
davechen1ythey do say you have to use sudo23:57
ghartmannit used to require sudo, somewhere on the webpages23:57
davechen1yyup, docs are wrong23:57
ghartmannbut it seems that now it won't need it anymore23:57
davechen1yjuju will ask if it needs sudo permissions23:58
ghartmannthe error I get now is23:58
ghartmannERROR bootstrapping a local environment must not be done as root23:58
ghartmannbut without sudo it giver panic23:59
ghartmanngives23:59
ghartmann"panic: runtime error: invalid memory address or nil pointer dereference"23:59
davechen1yghartmann: can oyu paste the full panic message23:59
ghartmannon the channel ?23:59

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