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[03:06] <ahoneybun_> darkxst, how come the other members do not hang around in here?
[03:07] <darkxst> ahoneybun_, some don't like IRC
[03:07] <darkxst> some are probably sleeping!
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[12:26] <melodie> hi
[12:27] <melodie> does someone know what is the best way to get the GNOME/Openbox session to work? After installing Openbox, and the Openbox configuration files from /etc/xdg/openbox, the said session does not provide a panel. I am not sure why?
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[15:06] <majod> hi
[15:07] <majod> the random keyboard switching bug is still present, so it didnt solve on its own. however i found another bug which i can reproduce every single time but id like to ask if someone else can reproduce it to...i cant change wallpaper from firefox
[15:11] <mgedmin> maybe firefox writes to the old gconf key instead of using gsettings?
[15:12] <majod> firefox saves the image as Firefox_wallpaper.png to home folder...even when i open the file and set it as background, it doesnt change
[15:12] <majod> only after logout and login
[15:12] <mgedmin> hm, some kind of caching?
[15:13] <mgedmin> gnome-shell doesn't get a notification about the desktop change because what firefox does is (1) overwrite the existing image file, and (2) set the gconf/gsettings key to the same value it was set to previously
[15:13] <majod> ive no idea. maybe. the background does its fade animation from current background to blue color and back to current wallpaper, not to the new one
[15:13] <mgedmin> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710756
[15:13] <ubot5> Gnome bug 710756 in background "Changes to current background wallpaper source image not detected consistently" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[15:14] <mgedmin> looks like the fix is a work in progress
[15:15] <mgedmin> probably stalled since there were no updates since Dec 2013
[15:15] <mgedmin> you may try talking to people on irc.gnome.org, in the #gnome-shell channel
[15:15] <mgedmin> that's where the developers are
[15:15] <majod> im reading about the bug its something different
[15:16] <majod> that guy wants gnome to automatically detect changes in the file
[15:16] <majod> but i manually set the file as desktop background and it doesnt work
[15:16] <mgedmin> I thought you used firefox?
[15:16] <majod> yes
[15:16] <Greylocks> majod: <ALT-F2-r> might set it. Have you tried that?
[15:16] <majod> but like i said, even opening the file and setting it as a wallpaper doesnt work
[15:17] <mgedmin> because you're changing the picture-uri key to the same value it was already set to, which looks like a no-op and so dconfd doesn't send any notifications (AFAIU)
[15:17] <majod> i get the "the image Firefox..." has been set as backround"...but it didnt
[15:17] <mgedmin> try setting it to a different image and then selecting the one firefox uses
[15:17] <mgedmin> but if this bug was fixed, you wouldn't need any workarounds
[15:19] <majod> Greylocks: yes it works that way
[15:19] <majod> logging out and back in also solves it
[15:20] <majod> renaming the file also solves it
[15:20] <majod> so youre right
[15:20] <majod> restarting gnome messed my terminal, brb
[15:21] <mgedmin> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=725652 is also interesting, might be a dupe, or might be something else
[15:21] <ubot5> Gnome bug 725652 in background "Set as wallpaper breaks sometimes" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[15:21] <mgedmin> terminal messup?  I've seen some of those after an alt-f2 r, nasty
[15:22] <majod> ok so thanks guys for your help...i will try to report to gnome
[16:14] <melodie> hi
[16:14] <melodie> I see a few more people now maybe could I ask my question again?
[16:15] <melodie> does someone know what is the best way to get the GNOME/Openbox session to work? After installing Openbox, and the Openbox configuration files from /etc/xdg/openbox, the said session does not provide a panel. I am not sure why?
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[21:45] <darkxst> melodie, if it is using gnome-panel, then you probably want to set XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=Unity
[22:01] <melodie> darkxst even if it does not use Unity?
[22:01] <darkxst> yes
[22:01] <melodie> is that to be added to the environment file in the .config/openbox directory?
[22:01] <darkxst> any GNOME2 based session should use that
[22:02] <darkxst> its set by gnome-session/Xsession configuration
[22:02] <melodie> then how do I have to set it up?
[22:04] <melodie> what puzzles me also is that the autostart file from openbox says things about "if this and that /usr/lib/openbox/gnome-something-daemon" (I don't have the distro right under my sight now, excuse me being approximate) but there is not such file at that place
[22:04] <melodie> gnome-settings-daemon !
[22:04] <darkxst> edit X-LightDM-DesktopName in /usr/share/xsessions/.deskop
[22:04] <darkxst> openbox.desktop
[22:05] <darkxst> and DesktopName in /usr/share/gnome-sessions
[22:23] <melodie> darkxst thanks, I'll look tomorrow. I keep all my logs from IRC so it won't be long to find your information (here it's paste midnight now :) )
[22:26] <melodie> one more question and that's it, how can I know if originally it was a Unity turned into a Ubuntu Gnome, or if it is an original Ubuntu Gnome? (the edition is 13.04, and yes, I know it's not supported anymore, just for now it will stay there because it needs to have all the user date copied elsewhere)
[22:49] <darkxst> melodie, I don;t think you can
[23:17] <ahoneybun> hey darkxst
[23:28] <darkxst> ahoneybun, ni
[23:28] <darkxst> hi
[23:29] <ahoneybun> I got polari to compile
[23:29] <ahoneybun> and install
[23:29]  * ahoneybun knows it is not a big deal but is happy he could do it
[23:30] <darkxst> ahoneybun, with debian packaing? can add it to the ppa if so
[23:31] <ahoneybun> I got it from source gnome site in tar.gz
[23:33] <ahoneybun> got my way into #ubuntu
[23:34] <ahoneybun_> nice now I'm in here with polari
[23:34] <ahoneybun_> darkxst: should I upload it to that ppa then?
[23:35] <darkxst> it will need debian packaging first
[23:37] <ahoneybun_> oh
[23:37]  * ahoneybun_ looks on ubuntu wiki
[23:39] <darkxst> ahoneybun_, probably easiest to start with 'debian/' folder from another gjs app like gnome-weather
[23:39] <darkxst> and then go through all files and rename things
[23:40] <ahoneybun_> sudo apt-get build-dep gnome-weather?
[23:40] <darkxst> apt-get source gnome-weather
[23:43] <ahoneybun_> I'm still surprised it built lol
[23:45] <ahoneybun_> just throw debian/ into the polari directory?
[23:45] <darkxst> yes
[23:45] <darkxst> then s/gnome-weather/polari/
[23:45] <darkxst> check dependencies in debian/control against configure.ac
[23:46] <ahoneybun_> s/... ?
[23:46] <darkxst> replace all occurrences of gnome-weather with polari
[23:48] <ahoneybun_> as in? sorry just a bit slow understanding this
[23:50] <ahoneybun_> in configure.ac I don't deps in there like in control
[23:50] <ahoneybun_> oh replace gnome-weather in control with polari?
[23:52] <darkxst> you only edit the files in debian/ folder
[23:55] <darkxst> the PKG_CHECK_MODULES in configure.ac, defines the build-deps that need to go in debian/control
[23:55] <darkxst> but using ubuntu package names not the packageconfig names
[23:56] <ahoneybun_> but replace all gnome-wether with polari?
[23:57] <ahoneybun_> I know their is a command to give you the ubuntu package names