[00:07] <Havenstance> will do man :)
[00:08] <Havenstance> I got my ProLiant back, getting ready to set it up here at home with zentyal.
[00:10] <Havenstance> I'm thinking about doing Dual NICs one being for the home subnet the other being for wireless clients, like the Wii, and the droid phones. Gonna be interesting to see how it plays out :)
[00:11] <Havenstance> hello gamerchick02
[00:13] <gamerchick02> howdy Havenstance!
[00:17] <Havenstance> its sooo early but yet im so tired...
[00:24] <gamerchick02> i've decided to walk more. so yeah i'm tired too
[00:24] <Havenstance> I've been chasing my one year old around all night
[00:25] <Havenstance> today's the day she learned to walk... now nothing is safe....
[00:25] <gamerchick02> hah!
[00:26] <Havenstance> i tell my mother
[00:26] <Havenstance> she says well good, now I hope she's just like you were
[00:26] <Havenstance> Damn curse
[00:27] <gamerchick02> LOL yeah
[01:00] <Havenstance> mrgoodcat, amazing how much difference this makes on an actual server
[01:01] <mrgoodcat> Is it working now?
[01:01] <Havenstance> yeah, raid is up and running
[01:01] <Havenstance> no quirks at all
[01:01] <Havenstance> only problem is its not recognizing the Onboard NIC now like it was before. but should be something I can fix momentarily
[01:02] <mrgoodcat> Hmm is it listed in lshw or lspci?
[01:02] <mrgoodcat> Not sure which it would show up in
[01:02] <Havenstance> running them now
[01:03] <Havenstance> its showing up in both places
[01:03] <Havenstance> it just didn't get DHCP for some reason
[01:03] <Havenstance> I have 3 nics all 3 show up
[01:03] <mrgoodcat> Hmm
[01:03] <Havenstance> what's the restart network command again?
[01:03] <Havenstance> sudo service networking restart?
[01:03] <mrgoodcat> Yes
[01:04] <Havenstance> hung for a second but now its restarting it....
[01:04] <Havenstance> it saw it all through the install with no problem
[01:05] <Havenstance> seems like I had this problem the other day when I installed Xubuntu
[01:05] <mrgoodcat> Probably missing a binary driver
[01:07] <Havenstance> something is up with the networking
[01:07] <Havenstance> shows networking stop/waiting
[01:07] <Havenstance> no start
[01:07] <Havenstance> but its running, ifconfig shows no IP
[01:08] <mrgoodcat> Why do you keep having so many problems?
[01:08] <Havenstance> this is just with 13.10 ubuntu
[01:08] <Havenstance> not even zentyal yet
[01:08] <mrgoodcat> You're probably missing a driver for the 3rd nic
[01:08] <Havenstance> however this server is an ML110 1st gen server
[01:08] <Havenstance> not really the most current situation
[01:09] <mrgoodcat> They aren't all the same manufacturer right?
[01:11] <Havenstance> no they are different
[01:11] <Havenstance> one is linksys, one is broadcom, one is netgear
[01:11] <Havenstance> its the onboard HP Broadcom Gigabit Ethernet that is not getting an IP now but it was during install
[01:15] <Havenstance> hm, gonna try a cable in eth1 or eth2 if I can get it to grab a dhcp i'll install zent and deal with it from a gui where I can read the logs & see what's going on
[01:18] <Havenstance> what kernel version is 13.10 on?
[01:22] <mrgoodcat> I'm not suee
[01:22] <mrgoodcat> Sure
[01:22] <Havenstance> mrgoodcat, if auto lo is listed before eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces could that cause a problem?
[01:22] <mrgoodcat> I think its 3.8
[01:22] <mrgoodcat> No
[01:23] <mrgoodcat> That shouldn't be a problem
[01:30] <Havenstance> sudo ifdown -a outputs a line of code then the words DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 on port 67 interval 3
[01:32] <Havenstance> I might try a different router to be honest
[11:00] <cmaloney> Good morning
[11:00] <rick_h_> morn
[11:00] <cmaloney> I had an idea that I'm sure someone is already attempting
[11:01] <cmaloney> but if not I'd like to make a feature request to the universe
[11:02] <cmaloney> Someone figure out how wrap a Java Applet in a HTML5 canvas so you can have the applet run on a server somewhere and the wrapper can act as some form of VNC connection
[11:02] <cmaloney> that is all
[12:01] <Havenstance> I'm out for a bit, I'll see you guys in an hour or so.
[12:37] <mrgoodcat> cmaloney: why?
[12:39] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: So I don't have to install Java on my browser. :)
[12:43] <mrgoodcat> haha
[12:43] <mrgoodcat> i thought you meant as a dev
[12:43] <mrgoodcat> i was gonna say just port your application to a better stack
[12:43] <mrgoodcat> but i suppose as a user you don't have much choice
[12:44] <cmaloney> yep
[12:49] <mrgoodcat> lol i don't usually think of ASF as a particularly humorous organization but they had my favorite april fools yesterday
[13:10] <jrwren> scribd is a pay-for library?
[13:10] <jrwren> mrgoodcat: which?
[13:11] <mrgoodcat> the switch to using git for the svn project
[13:11] <mrgoodcat> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7524
[13:11] <jrwren> yeah, I linked that too :)
[13:11] <jrwren> <3 it
[13:11] <jrwren> infoq picked it up as a real story
[13:12] <jrwren> http://www.infoq.com/news/2014/04/svn-migrates-to-git
[13:12] <jrwren> before the "update" it said "it sounds like a haox, but it s not"
[13:12] <jrwren> hahahahah
[13:59] <cmaloney> jrwren: Scribd is utter shit
[14:00] <jrwren> why?
[14:00] <cmaloney> A) They make you log in to download content
[14:00] <cmaloney> B) They make you log in to report content
[14:01] <cmaloney> C) They (at one time) made you have to upload something to download something
[14:01] <cmaloney> So they tend to get a lot of material that they don't have the rights to distribute.
[14:05] <cmaloney> http://decafbad.net/2009/05/27/scribd-your-moment-of-zen/
[14:06] <cmaloney> jrwren: in short, they are recipients of the coveted "nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure" award.
[14:07] <jrwren> huh, weird.
[14:09] <cmaloney> remember the old pirate BBses? Their behavior is a mirror of those days.
[14:11] <jrwren> how do they get away with it?
[14:18] <cmaloney> jrwren: DMCA compliance.
[14:29] <jrwren> jcastro: what is your new relationship with IBM?
[14:29] <cmaloney> http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/02/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/
[14:29] <cmaloney> Big surprise.
[14:31] <brousch> Is it?
[14:31] <jrwren> what they SHOULD be announcing is open sourcing of all related apps, so that community could run different U1 providers.
[14:31] <brousch> It says they are open sourcing U1
[14:31] <jrwren> and that U1 apps could be modified to use varying U1.
[14:31] <jrwren> it does?
[14:31] <jrwren> YAY!  win for us all!
[14:32] <brousch> "we continue to believe in the Ubuntu One file services, the quality of the code, and the user experience, so will release the code as open source software to give others an opportunity to build on this code to create an open source file syncing platform."
[14:32] <cmaloney> It means get your shit off our servers.
[14:33] <jcastro> you have until July to get it off
[14:33] <cmaloney> Already there.
[14:33] <cmaloney> 4GB of music that I purchased.
[14:33] <brousch> geez
[14:35] <cmaloney> and frankly, it was a long time coming
[14:36] <rick_h_> jrwren: can get a few of those firebox things that have massive storage to start up U2Files
[14:36] <cmaloney> Probably someone at Canonical received the annual bill and said "Shit! I completely forgot about that!"
[14:36] <cmaloney> ;)
[14:36] <jrwren> oh, its music and files only. U1 SSO and U1DB are not affected.
[14:36] <cmaloney> Or 7Digital had a renewal come due
[14:37] <Haven|Work> ughh :(
[14:37] <Haven|Work> need MOAR coffee
[14:37] <Haven|Work> day 2 of non smoking...
[14:38] <Haven|Work> = no fun
[14:40] <jrwren> always moar coffee
[14:41] <mrgoodcat> big biggby
[14:41] <mrgoodcat> BIGgby
[14:41] <brousch> They looked at what it would cost to compete with Google's new low, low price and said fuckit
[14:42] <cmaloney> brousch: I think it's the last vestiges of the "We need to be Apple on the Desktop" phase.
[14:42] <cmaloney> now we're in the "We need to be Apple / Android" phase on mobile. :)
[14:42] <mrgoodcat> U1 was bleeding money probably
[14:43] <mrgoodcat> i don't know a lot of people that used it
[14:43] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: I used it
[14:43] <cmaloney> UNfortunately there were a few problems with it early on
[14:43] <mrgoodcat> cmaloney: not strictly true. because neither android nor apple have the same level of convergence in mind. maybe apple... idk what goes on in that place
[14:44] <cmaloney> Mostly because (speculation) they were abusing CouchDB.
[14:44] <mrgoodcat> speculation that they use couchdb? or speculation about the abuse?
[14:44] <cmaloney> And CouchDB was not designed to be a mass-scaling synchronizing solution
[14:44] <cmaloney> speculation on the abuse part.
[14:44] <cmaloney> They were running desktop couch for a while.
[14:44] <cmaloney> on the client
[14:45] <cmaloney> For contact syncing and such
[14:45] <mrgoodcat> hmm
[14:45] <cmaloney> and I think early on Ubuntu One was using it for file sync as well
[14:45] <cmaloney> which was part of the reason my files took the early part of a century to sync. ;)
[14:46] <mrgoodcat> i wish backblaze would support linux
[14:49] <mrgoodcat> achievement unlocked: used python 3 in production
[14:52] <jrwren> O_O congrats.
[14:55] <brousch> mrgoodcat++
[14:55] <mrgoodcat> :)
[14:56] <mrgoodcat> it helps that i just started python so i don't have any py2 habits
[14:56] <brousch> Habits aren't the problem. 3rd party lib support is
[14:56] <mrgoodcat> i started a pet project in 2 but quickly realized it was a bad idea to start in 2 when 3 is out so i quickly ported it and i've done 3 only since then
[14:56] <mrgoodcat> yea i've found that
[14:57] <mrgoodcat> also tutorials and such are all geared at 2
[14:57] <brousch> True
[14:57] <mrgoodcat> and community support. in #python i have to specify that i'm using py3. otherwise i'm likely to get an answer that is py2 specific
[14:58] <mrgoodcat> and a lot of people upon hearing you want py3 say 'i dunno then'
[14:59] <brousch> nice
[15:01] <mrgoodcat> i dont mind though. It's probably a good thing that i'm being forced to work through some of these issues on my own. It promotes independence of thought and makes me really understand what I'm doing instead of copy pasting some code snippet or common pattern
[15:04] <Haven|Work> mrgoodcat, I know that feeling :)
[15:04] <brousch> I use about 1/3 Python 3 right now
[15:04] <Haven|Work> mention zentyal in #ubuntu-server once :)
[15:05] <jrwren> i wrote my first non trivial module which runs on both 2.7 and 3.4, but it looks like i"m going to pull a 2.x only dep, so no 3.x of me
[15:06] <Haven|Work> I don't have any complaints about zentyal other then that damn PCMANFM not working at all in 3.4
[15:08] <mrgoodcat> jrwren: what dep?
[15:08] <mrgoodcat> just for the at
[15:08] <mrgoodcat> cat*
[15:09] <jrwren> internal
[15:09] <mrgoodcat> ah
[15:09] <mrgoodcat> nvm then
[15:09] <mrgoodcat> that's a bitch
[15:09] <mrgoodcat> is python3 significantly faster for similar workloads?
[15:10] <mrgoodcat> or is it mostly just a code restructuring?
[15:11] <jrwren> its much slower for certain workloads.
[15:11] <jrwren> no, its not significantly faster.
[15:11] <jrwren> it really has very little benefit, which is one reason it hasn't been adopted quickly
[15:11] <mrgoodcat> hrm
[15:12] <jrwren> fixing language warts that devs already know how to work around isn't a very compelling upgrade case.
[15:12] <mrgoodcat> that's a shame
[15:12] <jrwren> 3.4 changes things a bit with async. Now we have built in async IO.
[15:12] <jrwren> but built-in is hte only benefit. twisted and gevent and tornado and so on have been around for a long time.
[15:12] <mrgoodcat> yea i saw that on /r/python
[15:13] <jrwren> so "why 3.x" is a touch question to answer.
[15:13] <jrwren> if there were a good answer, I'd be urging my team to adopt it much more quickly.
[15:13] <mrgoodcat> the new unicode literals are nice
[15:13] <mrgoodcat> i guess not entirely necessary but still nice
[15:14] <brousch> Bah, unicode is for foreigners
[15:14] <brousch> All we need is ASCII
[15:14] <mrgoodcat> ah
[15:14] <mrgoodcat> GET OFF MY LAWN
[15:15] <jrwren> unicode literals are in 2.7
[15:15] <mrgoodcat> AND TAKE YER FOREN CAR WITH YA
[15:15] <jrwren> u'hello world' != 'hello world'
[15:16] <mrgoodcat> but in 3 they are ==
[15:16] <jrwren> in 2.7 they are equal, because python does a smart compare.
[15:16] <jrwren> but they are different types :)
[15:16] <jrwren> in 3 they are the same type.
[15:16] <mrgoodcat> the difference between them has been done away with
[15:16] <jrwren> 3 introduces byte literals.
[15:16] <jrwren> and 2.7 has them for compat
[15:17] <jrwren> so b'hello' is a str in 2.7, but a bytestring in 3.x
[15:17] <jrwren> err... its class bytes
[15:17] <jrwren> huh... i never noticed it class not type.  interesting
[15:18] <mrgoodcat> http://www.diveintopython3.net/strings.html <-- this is where i've been referring to for anything related to py3 strings
[15:18] <jrwren> good idea.
[15:18] <mrgoodcat> remember when bookiebot/slevin was crashing on unicode strings?
[15:19] <mrgoodcat> that problem automagically fixed itself when i switched to py3
[15:19] <mrgoodcat> i also fixed the 2.x version, but it was still nice to be able to immediately see an advantage of py3
[15:19] <jrwren> python3 also supports unicode symbols
[15:19] <jrwren> 深入 = 1; print(深入)
[15:19] <jrwren> works
[15:19] <mrgoodcat> yerp
[15:19] <jrwren> python2 says "syntax error"
[15:19] <jrwren> :(
[15:20] <mrgoodcat> which is helpful in irc bots :)
[15:20] <jrwren> oh?
[15:20] <mrgoodcat> since people like to do weird things like flip tables
[15:20] <mrgoodcat> and shrug
[15:20] <jrwren> oh, I think python2 supports it in unicode values.
[15:21] <jrwren> you can x= "深入" just fine in py2
[15:21] <mrgoodcat> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[15:23] <mrgoodcat> you can always 'from __future__ import unicode_literals'
[15:25] <jrwren> indeed. probably should always do that.
[15:25] <mrgoodcat> also i like the new division operators
[15:25] <mrgoodcat>  / always returns a decimal approx
[15:25] <mrgoodcat>  // returns the floor
[15:25] <mrgoodcat> the old one gave ambiguous values
[15:26] <mrgoodcat> it returns the floor of the mathematical result of division if the arguments are ints or longs, but it returns a reasonable approximation of the division result if the arguments are floats or complex.
[15:26] <mrgoodcat> too much to think about when i'm trying to do simple division
[15:27] <jrwren> yup
[15:27] <jrwren> trouble is, that breaks a TON of code out there.
[15:28] <mrgoodcat> lol yea...
[15:28] <mrgoodcat> but it's still nicer
[15:29] <mrgoodcat> its the javascript problem
[15:29] <mrgoodcat> so many incredibly stupid mistakes in javascript are forever part of the language now because code depends on its eccentricities
[15:29] <jrwren> true
[15:30] <mrgoodcat> [15:30] <mrgoodcat> false == 'false'   // false
[15:30] <mrgoodcat> false == '0'       // true
[15:30] <mrgoodcat> wat
[15:30] <mrgoodcat> and so on
[15:31] <mrgoodcat> (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
[15:33] <mrgoodcat> false == undefined // false ; false == null // false ; null == undefined // true
[15:33] <mrgoodcat> ^^ that one is a personal favorite of mine
[15:33] <mrgoodcat> javascript logic is literally broken
[15:33] <jrwren> logic on null is always weird.
[15:34] <jrwren> null is special
[15:34] <mrgoodcat> javascript is special
[15:34] <jrwren> its not that different from SQL
[15:34] <mrgoodcat> but not in the way that your parents tell you you're special
[15:34] <mrgoodcat> in the special class way
[15:34] <mrgoodcat> javascript rides the short bus to your browser
[15:49] <brousch> rick_h_: Does your N10 take forever to charge?
[15:49] <rick_h_> not sure, I tend to charge things over night
[15:49] <rick_h_> never really tracked it
[15:51] <brousch> Hm, I'll have to try the official charger instead of this phone charger
[15:51] <brousch> I'm getting 5%/hour with this thing
[15:52] <jrwren> um, yeah.
[15:52] <jrwren> sounds like using an iphone charger on an ipad.
[15:52] <jrwren> you need more current.
[15:53] <jrwren> you need a 2A charger.
[15:53] <jrwren> your phone charger is likely only 1A or .5A
[15:54] <rick_h_> yea, 2A all the way
[15:54] <brousch> 5V 0.7A
[15:54] <jrwren> CALLED IT!
[15:55] <jrwren> You might want to NOT use that with a tablet at all.
[15:55] <rick_h_> yep
[15:55] <jrwren> it could reduce the life of the battery.
[16:02] <cmaloney> Hm, so I think I need to find a 2A charger
[16:02] <cmaloney> all of my plugs are 1A
[16:46] <greg-g> http://autonomo.us/2009/05/15/file-synchronization-services/
[16:47] <rick_h_> greg-g: heh, haven't seen iFolder in a long long time
[16:48] <greg-g> yeah, that post was from 2009 :)
[16:48] <greg-g> I'd mention git-annex now, instead
[16:50] <jrwren> nothing listening at ifolder.com
[16:50] <jrwren> sure, it was gplv2
[16:50] <jrwren> until all the source was deleted
[16:54] <jrwren> zomg, its still maintained. out on sourceforge.
[16:54] <jrwren> i had no idea.
[16:58] <greg-g> hah
[16:58] <greg-g> nice
[16:59] <jrwren> must. stop. browsing. http://sourceforge.net/p/ifolder/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/ifolder/src/UI/Windows/
[17:05] <Haven|Work> I hate dealing with the pediatrics up here
[17:06] <jrwren> :(
[17:06] <Haven|Work> doctor tells my fiancee that our daughter must get this lead test at 1 year old or the insurance will be cancelled.
[17:06] <Haven|Work> Called the insurance company and they stated that was false, a lie, and grounds for insurance fraud against the doctors office.
[17:06] <greg-g> wow
[17:06] <jrwren> O_O
[17:06] <greg-g> do it
[17:06] <jrwren> time to get a new doctor.
[17:06] <greg-g> and make the old one get sued
[17:06] <Haven|Work> so of course, I call them and they completely deny evertyhing while I was sitting in the room and heard the doctor say this.
[17:07] <greg-g> seriously
[17:07] <jrwren> Thanks Obama
[17:07] <Haven|Work> When I mentioned Fraud their ears perked right up
[17:07] <Haven|Work> funny thing is, I don't even have Obama care, or medicaid
[17:07] <jrwren> time to start recording all conversations with anyone from the office.
[17:07] <Haven|Work> I have BCBSM from my work
[17:07] <jrwren> BCBSM is obamacare.
[17:07] <jrwren> :p
[17:07] <greg-g> oh jay
[17:07] <greg-g> :)
[17:07] <jrwren> it is.
[17:07] <Haven|Work> yeah but I had the plan before it :)
[17:08] <Haven|Work> I was one of the lucky few who "got to keep my current healthplan"
[17:08] <jrwren> no you didn't. the plan changed. ACA demanded the plans change.
[17:08] <jrwren> and I know BCBSM changed ;p
[17:08] <jrwren> i'm not saying it is good or bad.
[17:08] <Haven|Work> yeah the price went up bo almost 200 a month too
[17:08] <jrwren> I just like the "Thanks Obama" saying. I think it is funny
[17:09] <jrwren> you are up north aren't you?
[17:09] <brousch> jrwren: You got the second part of the charger right too: official one is 5V 2A
[17:10] <Haven|Work> jrwren, yeah Traverse City
[17:10] <Haven|Work> bout smack between Cadillac and Traverse City on US-131
[17:17] <jrwren> yay me.
[17:18] <jrwren> Haven|Work: how far to Bellaire?
[17:18] <brousch> YOU ARE THE SMARTEST MAN IN THE WORLD
[17:19] <jrwren> brousch: hahaha. no. i've just seen phone and pad chargers before.
[17:19] <mrgoodcat> Haven|Work: i drive right by you fairly regularly
[17:19] <mrgoodcat> jrwren: if someone tells you you are the smartest man in the world, you say yes
[17:19] <jrwren> i don't like agreeing with lies.
[17:20] <jrwren> oh, at least an hour to bellaire. :(
[17:21] <cmaloney> Wherein jrwren is known as the Fresh Prince
[17:21] <brousch> fife lake?
[17:21] <jrwren> cmaloney: i wish!
[17:23] <brousch> Huh. I zoomed into Fife Lake and it has an airport icon in the middle of it. WTF? I click and it's a seaplane base.
[17:24] <brousch> That would be a cool way to commute
[17:30] <Haven|Work> jrwren, im probably half hour to 45 minues from Bellaire
[17:30] <Haven|Work> brousch, Fife Lake is a ten minute drive north
[17:30] <Haven|Work> I live in Manton, MI
[17:31] <Haven|Work> little butthole town in the middle of nowhere that was crippled by that Freeway Bypass
[17:32] <brousch> Too bad. fife Lake looks awesome
[17:33] <jrwren> when I drive through, I'll tell my kid its Radiator Springs.
[17:37] <Haven|Work> jrwren, yeah, Manton pretty much is Radiator Springs.
[17:38] <Haven|Work> brousch, Fife Lake isn't too bad as the Highway doesn't really run too far away its not express that far north
[17:38] <Haven|Work> mrgoodcat, how often you get up this way?
[17:39] <mrgoodcat> i have a house in gaylord
[17:39] <mrgoodcat> so fairly often
[17:39] <mrgoodcat> i have to pick up $gf in lansing on the way
[17:40] <mrgoodcat> so 131 is a straight shot
[17:41] <Haven|Work> sounds like a blast :0
[17:42] <Haven|Work> god support in #zentyal is horrible.... ask a question an hour later no response
[17:42] <mrgoodcat> oh i had 131 and 127 mixed up
[17:42] <Haven|Work> they really should throw some project devs in there
[17:42] <mrgoodcat> i actually don't go by you
[17:42] <mrgoodcat> :/
[17:42] <Haven|Work> mrgoodcat, only about half an hour to 127 from my house
[17:42] <mrgoodcat> not too bad
[17:43] <Haven|Work> Houghton Lake is about 25mins to a half hour depending on the traffic
[17:43] <Haven|Work> winter time that doubles cuz M42 between manton and lake city is severely neglected
[17:47]  * Haven|Work can't drive 55 either so if you do add about 10 extra minutes :)
[17:51] <Havenstance> time to test out the new network :)
[17:51] <jrwren> zentyal is the kind of project that I don't think I'd use unless I was willing to dive into the source and figure it all out.
[17:52] <Havenstance> for the most part it drops right in
[17:52] <Havenstance> but some things are buggy as shit
[17:52] <Havenstance> as i'm finding out the hard way :)
[17:52] <Havenstance> however I'm using the community edition I'd imagine that the commercial products are quite better
[17:55] <Havenstance> holy dickballs
[17:55] <Havenstance> mrgoodcat, idk what I did, but Samba is being a good kitty and playing nice with Winblows :)
[17:56] <mrgoodcat> Havenstance: that's literally the point of samba
[17:56] <Havenstance> mrgoodcat, yes but my experience with all of this, when something works, something else breaks xD
[17:57] <mrgoodcat> haha
[17:57] <mrgoodcat> truth
[17:58] <Havenstance> so far though, I'm able to communicate with everything
[17:58] <Havenstance> and there's the broken part
[17:59] <Havenstance> instead of 2.0tb shared drive shows up at 226gb
[17:59] <jrwren> ouch
[17:59] <Havenstance> fuck this
[17:59] <mrgoodcat> woah...
[17:59] <mrgoodcat> thats weird
[17:59] <Havenstance> im doing it the way I know how, tired of wasting time on his shit
[17:59] <Havenstance> i'll make it show up as 2.0tb but he's gonna have to enter a LUKS password
[17:59] <mrgoodcat> dumping zentyal?
[18:00] <Havenstance> no way
[18:00] <Havenstance> I'm in too deep now, and its personal :)
[18:00] <mrgoodcat> lol
[18:00] <mrgoodcat> what are you not doing then?
[18:02] <Havenstance> shit canning the Encryption
[18:03] <Havenstance> because everything works
[18:03] <Havenstance> up until the point its encrypted
[18:04] <Havenstance> unencrypted storage but I'll encrypt the main drive
[18:07] <Havenstance2> but there is no way im dumping zentyal
[18:07] <Havenstance2> I have two machiens running this now
[18:08] <Havenstance2> if i feel like giving him encryption i'll use truecrypt or something
[18:12] <Havenstance2> actually, its not the encryption its not zentyal, the IDE Port on this Mobo is faulty... its missing parts....
[18:15] <Havenstance2> oh well
[18:15] <Havenstance2> Time to go to the Staples
[18:19] <mrgoodcat> rly...;
[18:19] <brousch> IDE?
[18:19] <brousch> What is this, 2005?
[18:25] <jrwren> 1995
[18:29] <mrgoodcat> oops,,,
[18:47] <Havenstance2> mrgoodcat, his new million dollar solution. raid1 two flash drives so he has a backup and run zentyal from a flash drive.....
[18:47] <Havenstance2> needless to say I talked him out of that one lol
[18:47] <Havenstance2> basically I said, no way in hell am I doing that. Its a headache I don't want to deal with
[18:47] <mrgoodcat> why?......... just why?
[18:48] <mrgoodcat> what purpose could that possibly serve?
[18:48] <Havenstance2> you mean besides saving him money from buying a real server
[18:48] <Havenstance2> none
[18:48] <Havenstance2> nothing but un needed headaches
[18:48] <Havenstance2> but do you know if zentyal will notify you of a problem with the raid?
[18:48] <Havenstance2> like if you lose a disk or something?
[18:58] <mrgoodcat> not sure. i'm sure you could get that set up tho
[18:58] <mrgoodcat> maybe not in zentyal but it is also ubuntu server underneath
[19:01] <Havenstance2> cuz really he wants the system to email him if there is a problem with a disk, since its configured for RAID if he know's there a fault its simple as getting a new 2.0tb disk partitioning it like we have making it part of the array dropping it in and one should mirror to the other. idk how exactly it will work but it has to be safer then his flash drive idea.... lol
[19:44] <Havenstance2> install is scooting along so much faster now
[19:44] <Havenstance2> 20 mins vs 2 hrs
[22:11] <cmaloney> Evening