[00:00] <Beldar> Guest29086, An upgrade may load the drivers needed. If it were me, after an update&upgrade I would probably reboot to see if fixed, but I would have looked at the software sources, and known my graphic hardware.
[00:00] <Beldar> I assume this is an graphic driver issue, with the info provided. Guest29086
[00:01] <kostkon> Guest29086, what is now and what is then? have you already upgraded to 13.10? please describe your problem in more detail
[00:02] <ratmav> general question, but does anyone know of a good networking channel?
[00:03] <kostkon> !alis | ratmav
[00:03] <bazhang> ##networking ratmav
[00:03] <ratmav> bazhang, thanks
[00:03] <Beldar> ratmav, THe alis is helpful, I see  ##networking
[00:03] <Beldar> Doh, missed your post bazhang
[00:05] <Guest82377> sup
[00:13] <inandout> hello
[00:14] <daftykins> hi
[00:14] <daftykins> inandout: ask away if you have a question
[00:14] <JokesOnYou77> How can I get rid of a carriage return from a string?
[00:15] <JokesOnYou77> e.g. sed, cut, awk, even grep...
[00:22] <andrew_plunk> hello all
[00:27] <newbie|4> hallo is anyone there i hawe a question
[00:28] <kostkon> !detaisl | newbie|4
[00:28] <kostkon> !details | newbie|4
[00:30] <newbie|4> i have blackout problems in my familys cottage and i lost a lot of data due to theat allready i need a blackout rezistant file system for my ubuntu computer
[00:32] <mtnbkr> newbie|4: I would recommend a UPS and NUT (Network UPS tools) to monitor UPS and properly shutdown sysyem when Battery is low, or at set %
[00:33] <mtnbkr> Oh, and ext4, but only because that appears to be default on current Ubuntu releases so you can get lots of help :)
[00:33] <Beldar> newbie|4, linux does pretty well comparable, however it does matter how many times and the processes running.
[00:35] <hrm> newbie|4, journaled fs's (e.g. ext4, ext3, etc.) are fairly good about sudden unmounting, however nothing is going to be highly reliable except something hardware-based
[00:35] <hrm> e.g. something which can gracefully shutdown the system
[00:36] <newbie|4> my problem is the blackouts and i allready bought a upc theat lasts about an hour but alot of the blackouts are longer then theat or are to frequent during the day for it to recharge its when there is a thunderstorm heavy wind and rain or during witer  so i woud like a filesystem theat looses the smalest anmout of data during a blackout.
[00:36] <mtnbkr> newbie|4: install and configure NUT
[00:37] <mtnbkr> then you will not lose any data no matter how long the blackout... The system will properly, and automatically shut down before UPS dies
[00:38] <mtnbkr> newbie|4: and as hrm said, most journalled filesystems on Linux will be far better off than NTFS
[00:38]  * mtnbkr ducks the ensuing OS and/or FS flamewar  lol
[00:38] <hrm> newbie|4, get a laptop (has a battery) and configure it to shutdown at <5% left
[00:39] <olalonde> what's the most minimal ubuntu distribution?
[00:40] <newbie|4> i will install the nut thanks but whot does journaled filesystems mean and which is the best in my case to install i have an intel core i3 procesor an 120gb ssd disk and 16gb ram
[00:40] <rww> olalonde: ubuntu server
[00:40] <mtnbkr> newbie|4: processor, RAM and drive space matter not for your question.   make the system shut down before AC is removed and you're  fine
[00:41] <kostkon> !minimal | olalonde
[00:41] <newbie|4> as for the laptop i reacently bought a computer and cant afford to buy a leptop right away
[00:42] <olalonde> ubottu: thanks
[00:42] <olalonde> thanks kostkon :p
[00:42] <mtnbkr> newbie|4: google ext3, ext4, resierfs to start, or just google "journaled file systems"
[00:43] <peloncho> hola como estan?
[00:44] <Niles> Yo hablo espanol un poco
[00:44] <kostkon> olalonde, ;)
[00:44] <Niles> peloncho, #ubuntu-es
[00:44] <peloncho> yo hablo español
[00:50] <newone|1> i want to ask what is the difference between ubuntu filesystems and wich is the best for data storage
[00:51] <Niles> Ubuntu uses ext4 by default
[00:51] <jpds> !best | newone|1
[00:52] <Niles> It's similar to NTFS used by Windows and HFS+ used by Mac in that it's journaled, so if you suddenly lose power, data being written to the disk can be recovered safely.
[00:52] <Niles> Other than that you'd have to ask someone who knows something
[00:53] <c2tarun> Hi friends, anyone using chromium here? Can you please tell me how to block ads on chromium. Adblock plus which used to work on chrome is not working on chromium. :(
[00:55] <Niles> I use the google chrome distributed by linux, and Adblock Plus works for me. You could consider switching. Also, Adblock and Adblock Plus are separate extensions, so you might look into using the other one and see if that fixes it.
[00:55] <Niles> From what I hear Adblock is better than the plus version, as companies can pay adblock plus to put their ads through the filter. I've never had any problems with it though
[00:55] <Niles> Also, first time I installed it it was disabled, so check on that real quick
[00:56] <Beldar> c2tarun, Many adds are flash try ScriptNo or NotScript
[00:57] <Jordan_U> Niles: Companies cannot pay to have their adds let through Adblock plus.
[00:57] <Niles> Eh, just hearsay then I guess
[00:58] <c2tarun> Beldar, I couldn't find ScriptNo in chrome store, but when I searched for NotScript I found ScriptSafe, are they same.
[00:58] <c2tarun> Niles, chrome is heavy, slow, laggy and I use them on windows in my office.
[00:59] <Beldar> c2tarun, Cool, a flash block is what I use besides adblock on all my browsers if there is one. The flash blockers have a whitelist as well.
[01:00] <c2tarun> Beldar, I found flash block :)
[01:01] <c2tarun> Beldar, nope its not blocking ads :( specially on youtube
[01:02] <Beldar> c2tarun, youtube is using flash to run.
[01:02] <c2tarun> Beldar, yup, still not blocking ads :(
[01:03] <Beldar> c2tarun, So what does adblock not working actually mean?
[01:04] <c2tarun> Beldar, In chrome adblock was able to block ads that come before youtube videos, but in chromium it is not blocking those ads.
[01:04] <rww> Jordan_U, Niles: https://adblockplus.org/en/about#monetization
[01:05] <rww> I note that this can be disabled (so the ads are blocked anyway).
[01:05] <Beldar> c2tarun, I use it in firefox and on occasion have to add a add to it is all, could this be the case with you?
[01:05] <c2tarun> Beldar, sorry, but what do you mean by add a add.
[01:06]  * c2tarun thinking of switching to firefox :(
[01:06] <Jordan_U> rww: Niles: "Note that we will never whitelist any ads that don't meet these criteria. There is no way to buy a spot in the whitelist. Also note that whitelisting is free for small- and medium-sized websites." If that's true, which I believe it is, then I stand by my earlier statement.
[01:07] <Beldar> c2tarun, add the ads to the adblock app.
[01:07] <Beldar> right click on them in firefox
[01:07] <Beldar> not sure with chromium
[01:08] <rww> Jordan_U: Companies can pay to have their ads let through Adblock Plus. Not all ads qualify, and not all companies must pay, but it's still true.
[01:08] <rww> Jordan_U: But whatevs, this is semantics.
[01:13] <advx_> Hi All, Good Morning
[01:20] <harris_> The installation or removal of a software package failed.
[01:21] <daftykins> that is indeed a syntactically correct statement
[01:22] <Beldar> syntactically, was my stage name as a stripper
[01:23] <daftykins> Beldar: why'd you give up?
[01:23] <Ben64> daftykins: not on topic and not appropriate
[01:24] <daftykins> i love that you decided to bring me up for that, Ben64
[01:24] <Ben64> meant to highlight both you and Beldar, sorry. still not on topic or appropriate
[01:25] <daftykins> sure, but you know i think me and Beldar being regular helpers deserve a single sentence of comedy once in a few days
[01:25] <daftykins> but nm off to sleep now - try not to push away the very ones that are helping too much
[01:30] <Niles> Wait, nobody ever helped harris_ with his problem
[01:30] <Niles> What were you trying to install?
[01:31] <rww> Niles: because he's using 14.04, which is supported in #ubuntu+1, and crossposted, because he likes apologizing
[01:31] <Niles> Oh
[01:40] <tux_> good evening people
[01:40] <Niles> 'Sup Tux
[01:40] <tux_> not much just messing with 13.10
[01:41] <tux_> getting to go to college soon and trying to tweek things so it will work with their servers
[01:42] <icedwater> OK, I am stuck in terminal... I'm on my various ttys which is enough for work but I would like to get into X for the odd email check. How do I restart X? As root '/usr/sbin/X' crashed.
[01:43] <icedwater> I mean, of course, /usr/bin/X. I have also tried /usr/bin/lightdm and service lightdm restart :(
[01:43] <hrm> startx?
[01:43] <Beldar> startx is deprecated
[01:43] <kostkon> icedwater, sudo service lightdm restart is the proper way
[01:43] <hrm> hence the '?' :)
[01:44] <Beldar> hrm, Heh, a little more vague please. ;)
[01:48] <WD40> #CService
[01:49] <Niles> I didn't know startx was deprecated. Is xinit deprecated as well?
[01:49]  * `ryban good morning :)
[01:49] <Fox^> it is deprecated?
[01:49] <Fox^> Niles: source?
[01:51] <K`zan> Hi FOlks, I have a problem with sound, apparently I have multiple devices on this motherboard and I have different programs using different devices,  need some help in figuring out how to configure all of them.  TMIA!
[01:51] <K`zan> Only want one of them active...
[01:54] <kostkon> !detaisl | K`
[01:54] <kostkon> !detaisl | K`zan
[01:54] <kostkon> damn
[01:54] <kostkon> !details | K`zan
[01:55] <Niles> Fox^, I was referring to `<Beldar> startx is deprecated'
[01:55] <Fox^> ah, I see
[01:55] <Fox^> ok.
[01:55] <Fox^> I just misread then
[01:55] <adfas2> ubuntu and canonical is done after they sell search data to advertising companies
[01:56] <adfas2> you are worse than microsoft
[01:56] <adfas2> even microsoft isnt doing such things
[01:56] <rww> adfas2: Okay. Do you have an Ubuntu support question we can help you with today?
[01:56] <adfas2> rww, yes
[01:56] <rww> adfas2: Let's skip ahead to that, then.
[01:56] <adfas2> why ubuntu have unity?
[01:56] <adfas2> unity is worse garbage than metro in win8
[01:56] <qin> icedwater: x for email, there is pine and mutt
[01:56] <rww> adfas2: That isn't a support question; try again.
[01:57] <adfas2> rww how to uninstall ubuntu?
[01:57] <rww> adfas2: Get a CD for whatever OS you want to replace it with, and use its partitioning tools to remove Ubuntu's partition(s) and correct the bootloader. Your distribution or OS's support channel can help you further with that.
[01:58] <adfas2> lol its funny how ubuntu wanted to be for casual users, yet linux mint got so much better at it
[01:58] <Niles> adfas2, You don't have to use unity. I personally hate it. I use a combination of gnome-shell and awesome.
[01:58] <rww> adfas2: That isn't a support question, let's stick to those.
[01:58] <adfas2> Niles, i like lxde, or xfce
[01:58] <Niles> All good managers
[01:58] <njNkone> I need help setting up openvpn in ubuntu 12.04LTS.
[01:59] <Xtremeasure> adfas2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/133533/how-to-remove-ubuntu-and-put-windows-back-on
[01:59] <Xtremeasure> i use Mate, and have cinnamon as a selection
[01:59] <Niles> adfas2, Have you read http://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/Openvpn23ManPage ?
[02:00] <rww> wrong person, I think you meant njNkone
[02:00] <Xtremeasure> i dont know why people feel bound to unity
[02:00] <adfas2> Xtremeasure, but why did they set it up as default gui?
[02:00] <adfas2> many people dont know how or want to change it
[02:00] <Xtremeasure> adfas2
[02:00] <Xtremeasure> i dont know
[02:00] <Niles> Because you can't uninstall or change the default window manager on Windows or Mac, people assume you can't do it on linux, Xtremeasure
[02:01] <kostkon> adfas2, stick to support questions. and this is not a channel for conversations. that's what #ubuntu-offtopic is for
[02:01] <Niles> Take it up with the Ubuntu Desktop team
[02:01] <Xtremeasure> im not a dev but if you didnt like it whyd you download ubuntu ?
[02:01] <adfas2> kostkon, i dont care for what this channel is
[02:01] <adfas2> Xtremeasure, to check it out
[02:01] <adfas2> it turned to be crap
[02:01] <kostkon> adfas2, you'll get kicked and banned then
[02:01] <adfas2> kostkon, do i care?
[02:01] <kostkon> exactly..
[02:01] <Niles> adfas2, To contact the ubuntu server team, go to #ubuntu-meetings at Tue, April 8, 3:30pm – 4:30pm GMT
[02:01] <Niles> Oh, too late
[02:01] <qin> yup
[02:02] <Xtremeasure> lol
[02:02] <Niles> And I misspelled ubuntu-meeting
[02:02] <Xtremeasure> back to the shady things i do on the interwebz
[02:03] <K`zan> kostkon: I have PulseAudio, HDA ATI SB, (webcam device), and HDA Nvidia.  PulseAudio is selected in the desktop mixer (TDE), Some apps are using something other than PulseAudio in that if I mute it in the mixer / volume control applet, some apps still manage to make sounds (seems to be KDE4 apps), TDE (KDE3) apps honor my selection.
[02:03] <starkin> hi, installed lubuntu on my toshiba satellite 2410, working nicely.
[02:04] <kostkon> K`zan, ok
[02:05] <kostkon> K`zan, install pavucontrol and see if you can force those apps to use your default output device
[02:06] <kostkon> K`zan, in theory, you should need to do this once, i mean move them to your default device
[02:07] <`ryban> hi rww
[02:07] <Beldar> starkin, I have a toshiba A205-S5812 listed as a 32 bit is a 64, and has 1 gig more of ram use than the limit suggested
[02:07] <rww> `ryban: hi?
[02:07] <`ryban> how are u..
[02:08] <rww> `ryban: I'm doing well. Something we can help you with today?
[02:09] <starkin> interesting, i was thinking of upgrading the ram, lubuntu is fairly responsive with 720+ mb ram, but it would do better with 2 gb..
[02:10] <starkin> i also have a desktop pentium 4 with 1.5 gb of ram i was thinking of installing lubuntu on as well
[02:10] <K`zan> kostkon: Doing so now.
[02:10] <K`zan> kostkon: Thanks very much for you help here!!!!!!!!!!
[02:10] <kostkon> K`zan, np
[02:11] <K`zan> kostkon: sigh:  (pavucontrol:17385): Gtk-ERROR **: GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same process is not supported
[02:11] <K`zan> Trace/breakpoint trap
[02:14] <kostkon> K`zan, what version of ubuntu is this
[02:15] <njNkone> the link is fine, but I am not able to create certificates.
[02:15] <K`zan> kostkon: Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
[02:16] <K`zan> kostkon: Issue *may* be TDE which may be where the gtk2 is coming from (Trinity Desktop Environment (Was KDE3).
[02:16] <olalonde> is it possible to get full disk encryption on a headless server?
[02:16] <kostkon> K`zan, right
[02:16] <jpds> olalonde: Yes.
[02:17] <olalonde> jpds: how would that work if you need to reboot? would ssh work?
[02:17] <jpds> olalonde: You'd need a way to get to GRUB independent of the OS.
[02:18] <K`zan> kostkon: Let me see what I can find out about that.  Again, thanks MUCH for your help here.  Love KDE3, but there apparently are problems as I suspect it is running gtk2.
[02:18] <jpds> olalonde: It's much better to put /srv under a LUKS partition and mount that after boot.
[02:19] <olalonde> I see
[02:20] <kostkon> !info veromix precise | K`zan, see if you can install and run this plasmoid
[02:20] <kostkon> :/
[02:20] <jpds> olalonde: Why do you need full crypto?
[02:20] <kostkon> !info plasma-widget-veromix precise | K`zan, see if you can install and run this plasmoid
[02:21] <K`zan> kostkon: Love KDE3 / TDE but the problems are starting to make me consider windoz :-( (NOT! :-)).
[02:21] <olalonde> jpds: I don't need, just curious how that would work
[02:21] <kostkon> K`zan, there is kde4 :P
[02:21] <rypervenche> olalonde: You would need /boot to be unencrypted.
[02:21] <olalonde> right
[02:21] <jpds> rypervenche: You don't.
[02:21] <K`zan> kostkon: If I have to use KDE4, I *will* go back to windoz :).
[02:22] <kostkon> K`zan, :/
[02:22] <rypervenche> jpds: Please to elaborate.
[02:22] <K`zan> kostkon: Amazing how bad KDE4 is considering KDE3 was stellar from a working standpoint...
[02:22] <jpds> rypervenche: You have GRUB do the decryption.
[02:23] <K`zan> TDE GTK2
[02:23] <K`zan> ww
[02:23] <olalonde> jpds: can GRUB start an ssh server?
[02:23] <jpds> olalonde: No.
[02:23] <Niles> olalonde, Grub can't even connect to the internet
[02:23] <jpds> rypervenche / olalonde: http://michael-prokop.at/blog/2014/02/28/full-crypto-setup-with-grub2/
[02:23] <olalonde> so how would I tell Grub my decryption key on a headless server...
[02:23] <olalonde> ok thanks for the link
[02:23] <jpds> olalonde: That's why you need a KVM console on the server.
[02:24] <olalonde> ok
[02:24] <rypervenche> jpds: Ah, this is new. Thank you.
[02:26] <olalonde> I guess I could just encrypt a few directories
[02:26] <olalonde> just not sure which ones … maybe /home and /var ?
[02:26] <olalonde> and /tmp
[02:26] <olalonde> what's the closest to full disk encryption that doesn't require KVM?
[02:26] <jpds> olalonde: That's totally up to you and your requirements.
[02:26] <jpds> olalonde: Good luck with that.
[02:28] <olalonde> ah maybe I could have some kind of ssh interface to the KVM console?
[02:28] <jpds> olalonde: That depends entirely on how the KVM is implemented.
[02:28] <jpds> olalonde: Most of them are a Java web-based graphics thingy.
[02:29] <olalonde> i have physical access to the server but dont have a screen :P
[02:30] <jpds> olalonde: But yeah, disk crypto only really protects you when the machine is turned off.
[02:30] <olalonde> right
[02:31] <jpds> Another option is to have the physical machine do VMs.
[02:31] <olalonde> wonder if I could do this with my raspberry Pi
[02:31] <jpds> And then the VMs do the disk crypto.
[02:31] <Havenstance_> dhcp request of 192.168.1.104 on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
 dhcp offer of 192.168.1.104 from 192.168.1.1
 dhcpack of 192.168.1.104 from 192.168.1.1
 bound to 192.168.1.104 -- renewal in 33966 seconds
 but ifconfig still shows no dhcp addr
[02:31] <Havenstance_> this is output of vim /var/log/usptart/network-interface*
[02:31] <olalonde> right
[02:31] <Havenstance_> ubuntu 13.10
[02:32] <Havenstance_> dhcp worked during install
[02:32] <jpds> Havenstance_: Have you tried running "dhclient eth0" ?
[02:32] <Havenstance_> results in a hung terminal
[02:35] <selina345> i'm trying to install ubuntu onto the usb but it wont work :(
[02:35] <selina345> i moved the ISO to the usb
[02:35] <Beldar> selina345, You want to use a usb loader app, like unetbootin, or dd it
[02:35] <jpds> selina345: What do you mean by "install" ?
[02:35] <selina345> however, i can't seem to burn it to the USB. is it only possible to burn to a CD?
[02:36] <rww> selina345: which operating system are you using right now (Windows, Ubuntu...)?
[02:36] <selina345> Windows
[02:36] <Ub0ne> tru imagewriter
[02:36] <jpds> selina345: Are you trying to run Ubuntu off the USB stick itself? Or want to write the install image to the USB to install on a machine?
[02:36] <rww> selina345: Tried http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows ?
[02:36] <icedwater> kostkon: thanks, but if I have logged in as root via sudo bash, isn't the service lightdm restart the same thing?
[02:37] <kostkon> icedwater, yes
[02:37] <jpds> icedwater: Ew.
[02:37] <jpds> icedwater: Do: sudo -i in future for a root prompt.
[02:39] <icedwater> jpds: interesting. What's the difference?
[02:40] <jpds> icedwater: Something to do with environment variables.
[02:40] <selina345> alright, trying to use ubootnet
[02:40] <selina345> as recommended
[02:40] <selina345> fingers crossed
[02:40] <icedwater> jpds: I'm seeing the same thing in the man pages; is it so that my $USER env will be preserved?
[02:40] <rww> erm, the Ubuntu page I linked recommends something that isn't unetbootin.
[02:41] <icedwater> So `sudo bash` runs bash as root with root's env?
[02:41] <jpds> icedwater: Probably the user's env.
[02:42] <Beldar> selina345, Many use the linked app rww gave you, your choice really there are a handful of loaders out there or more.
[02:43] <selina345> sorry, what linked app?
[02:43] <Beldar> selina345, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[02:44] <selina345> hmm
[02:45] <Beldar> selina345, Most of the usb loaders have a use the downloaded iso option, besides a download in the app.
[02:45] <Ub0ne> selina345: http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/ =simple+works
[02:45] <basketball> anyone have the drivers for hp officejet 100 l411
[02:45] <selina345> alright well the ubootin is done. it's now asking me whether i'd like to reboot.
[02:45] <icedwater> jpds: which is what I don't get, so why sudo -i rather than sudo bash? I guess it's shorter.
[02:45] <opzinsoft> como configurar o ubuntu com o minidlna
[02:45] <qin> icedwater: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[02:46] <opzinsoft> ? ll
[02:46] <Beldar> !pt | opzinsoft
[02:47] <opzinsoft> blza
[02:47] <jpds> icedwater: Because 'sudo -i' forces a reset of the environment with the root user's configuration.
[02:47] <Beldar> selina345, Yeah reboot, or boot the usb when needed it works either way.
[02:49] <jpds> icedwater: Look  at the "Special notes" section of that page.
[02:57] <selina345> okay so looks like it extracted all the files to the USB
[02:57] <selina345> there's something called wubi
[02:57] <selina345> which is the windows installer for ubuntu
[02:57] <selina345> ...
[02:57] <selina345> =/
[02:58] <selina345> i think im just gonna use pen drive instead sighs
[02:58] <Beldar> selina345, used to have all needed for that on the iso, but it is a different download, and in general not advised to use.
[02:58] <selina345> pen drive?
[02:58] <selina345> or unetbootit
[02:58] <selina345> ?
[02:59] <Beldar> selina345, Soory the wubi
[02:59] <selina345> ah gotcha
[03:03] <somsip> selina345: as a different opinion, wubi is fine if you just want to try ubuntu to see what it's like before you do a proper install, or if you want occasional access to ubuntu on a win machine you don't want to do a full install on
[03:04] <dublued> Hello All... I was wondering if someone would be willing to help me resolve an issue I'm having with my soundcard on ubuntu 13.10
[03:05] <SchrodingersScat> !someone | dublued
[03:05] <kostkon> !details | dublued
[03:05] <Beldar> somsip, heh, I was avoiding being put on the rack bythe channel for even looking to advise a wubi, honestly, I say use what works, you know. ;)
[03:05] <rww> kostkon: fyi, "what's up?" is shorter and about as useful
[03:05] <somsip> Beldar: me too. Each tool for it's own purpose. I feel wubi gets a bad press in here, but if its limitations are accepted, it does a job
[03:06] <kostkon> rww, hmm probably
[03:06] <rww> somsip: It's unsupported, breaks under UEFI, and causes data loss under certain conditions. I think its press is pretty well deserved.
[03:06] <rww> and since it's unsupported, we don't do it here :P
[03:07] <dublued> I just did a fresh install of 13.10.  I have a sound card which is listed in the sound settings as SB0240 Audigy 2 Platinum 6.1.  I am not getting any sound output from the card.  I have tried the different available configurations such as stereo, 4.0, 5.0, 7.1, 5.1, etc... and none of them give me audio output.  I was using Linux Mint previously and it was working properly on that OS.
[03:09] <datakid> if I have a tgz of an old file system (11.04 natty), what's the easiest way to 1. Discover what's installed on it and/or 2. install the fs on a computer/vm. I feel that 2 isn't possible - evening looking in the archive I can see /proc/ filled with age old goop.
[03:20] <selina345> Beldar: confused, please help!
[03:21] <selina345> after going through pen drive i have all these files on my usb
[03:21] <selina345> one of which is WUBI
[03:21] <selina345> and it seems like the only way to install ubuntu
[03:21] <Beldar> selina345, Not sure I understand the context of going through the pendrive.
[03:22] <Beldar> selina345, To install ubuntu you would boot the usb n ow.
[03:22] <selina345> so when i click on wubi
[03:22] <selina345> i'm given three options
[03:22] <selina345> 1) rebootnow
[03:22] <selina345> 2) manual reboot later
[03:22] <selina345> 3) help me to boot form CD
[03:23] <Beldar> selina345, That wubi icon does not work on the ISO.
[03:23] <selina345> so what should i do next?
[03:24] <Beldar> selina345, So the end goal is a dual boot right?
[03:24] <okt> I'm getting a kernel panic on boot to recovery, "VFS: Cannot open root device "$uuid" or unknown-block(0,0): error -6" I can get a chroot using a live cd, not sure how to get this fixed.
[03:24] <selina345> Beldar: that's correct
[03:24] <Beldar> selina345, Heh, just making sure, this can be done from the usb being booted to the live desktop.
[03:25] <selina345> okay, how exactly
[03:26] <Beldar> selina345, If you need help from the channel on the actual install, be careful not to just install while assuming but be sure. Having the windows fully backed up and a windows recovery disc are really advised as well.
[03:26] <Beldar> selina345, Do you lnow how to get to the bios?
[03:26] <Beldar> know*
[03:27] <selina345> no. i'm a complete noob.
[03:28] <Beldar> selina345, No biggie, the bios is accessed at powering on with a key or series of keys clicked. The bios has a section that allows you to change what drive is read first, you would want the usb read 1st.
[03:29] <selina345> ok
[03:29] <Beldar> selina345, The splash you see on most computers when you power on is the bios spalash, and many times it says what keys to access it. Mine is f12, could be that or others
[03:30] <selina345> okay...pardon the impatience but how is this relevant?
[03:30] <selina345> do i need to access the bios first?
[03:31] <Beldar> selina345, You have to boot the usb, to do so it has to be the first drive the computer reads.
[03:31] <selina345> ohh okay
[03:33] <Beldar> selina345, oops actually my f12 is actually f2 to reach the bios.
[03:34] <Beldar> selina345, So what version of windows are you running?
[03:36] <lisa_> hello
[03:39] <Xtremeasure> hello lisa whats up
[03:39] <selina345> Beldar: Windows 7 professional
[03:39] <Xtremeasure> nvm
[03:39] <Xtremeasure> didnt see she left lol
[03:40] <Beldar> selina345, Thanks, W8 has a different setup and different install parameters, just wanted to know.
[03:42] <selina345> ok
[03:45] <selina345> i cant access the bios
[03:45] <Highball> what kind of computer do you have?
[03:45] <selina345> dell
[03:46] <Xtremeasure> what model
[03:46] <Highball> dell is usually F10 at boot.  But let me double check that
[03:46] <selina345> ok
[03:46] <Xtremeasure> i think it differs on some of the older laptops
[03:47] <Highball> yea you are right.  I remember some being F2 as well
[03:47] <selina345> so is it F10 or F2
[03:47] <Xtremeasure> try f10
[03:47] <Highball> selina345: watch the bottom of the screen during boot and you will see the options.  It'll only flash for a second or 2
[03:48] <selina345> okay, so after i access the bios
[03:48] <selina345> how do i change the order the computer boots in
[03:49] <Xtremeasure> there should be a boot order tab
[03:49] <Xtremeasure> or boot
[03:49] <Xtremeasure> somewhere along those lines
[03:49] <selina345> and i should move the usb to be the first right
[03:49] <Xtremeasure> yes
[03:50] <Xtremeasure> and make sure to save your changes to the bios when you exit
[03:50] <selina345> alrighty
[03:59] <okt> Well I got ubuntu to boot, but I now have no mouse. Not a M$ wireless, a USB mouse, or a Logitech wireless. dmesg displays everything correctly. Where to start?
[04:02] <Xtremeasure> okt what version of ubuntu is this ?
[04:03] <okt> 12.10
[04:06] <Xtremeasure> you said your mouse is not logitech correct?
[04:07] <okt> Isn't there some change FOR logitech? Similar to appending HID somewhere? I may have made that change as I used to use a logitech on the machine. Could this be why the M$ one is not working?
[04:08] <Xtremeasure> no quite sure im digging through bug reports and forum post to see if i can find something like your issue
[04:09] <okt> Xtremeasure: appreciate it!
[04:09] <okt> I'm looking as well...
[04:09] <Xtremeasure> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2080778&page=2
[04:09] <jkmcrg> Hello, I have messed up badly. While installing ubuntu, I partitioned my windows 7 harddrive, and insalled Ubuntu on that. When I reset my computer, windows 7 is gone.
[04:10] <jkmcrg> I don’t mind if I can’t recover the OS, but the files are very important!
[04:10] <jkmcrg> They are important because they are not mine.
[04:10] <jkmcrg> What is the best way to recover a lost windows partition?
[04:10] <jkmcrg> I would be willing to pay money.
[04:11] <Xtremeasure> your sure you wiped the windows partition
[04:11] <jkmcrg> Well, I made a new partition on the promp, sda1, and installed on that. But poof, win7 is gone..
[04:12] <Xtremeasure> i may be mistakin but if you chose the wrong partition then it would format to change the file system
[04:13] <reaper5oh> Hey Guys, I have a ubuntu box and I have added my windows shares to fstab on boot. The shares are readable but not writable. This is the line I have added to fstab "//192.168.178.99/media/ /media/media3 cifs username=name,password=pass,iocharset=utf8 rw 0 0" I can read file but just cant write. Am I missing somthing?
[04:13] <Xtremeasure> so in short the stuff that was thee isnt going to be recoverable in a full sense of the word
[04:13] <jkmcrg> Oh no.
[04:13] <Xtremeasure> the importance of backups my friend.
[04:14] <jkmcrg> Well, what sense of the word can I recover things in?
[04:14] <okt> reaper5oh: the SMB share is configured to allow writing?
[04:14] <selina345> sooo i think im gonna get another USB first, back up my files, adn then install ubuntu
[04:14] <selina345> the bios stuff worked out fine
[04:15] <Beldar> selina345, Cool, you have a recovery disc for the W7?
[04:15] <selina345> but as i was following the instructions to install ubuntu, i figured i probably should back up my windows files in case they become corrupted
[04:15] <Beldar> or install disc, Salcoder
[04:15] <reaper5oh> okt: Yes its a windows share and works with the same login details on other windows machines
[04:15] <reaper5oh> The user has full access to the share
[04:15] <selina345> Beldar, i think ive got it somewhere around the house
[04:16] <Beldar> selina345, Cool, good to have or an install fir ant MS repairs if needed.
[04:16] <Beldar> for any*
[04:16] <selina345> lol
[04:17] <Beldar> my irc app needs an auto speeel
[04:17] <selina345> yeah, absolutely
[04:17] <selina345> haha
[04:17] <selina345> my mirc is expiring soooon
[04:17] <selina345> :(
[04:17] <selina345> not sure what to use
[04:17] <Xtremeasure> i use xchat
[04:17] <selina345> free?
[04:17] <Xtremeasure> yep
[04:18] <selina345> cool
[04:18] <Beldar> selina345, I use hexchat in windows and linux, it's a fork of xchat, free in windows.
[04:18] <selina345> lol based on the screenshots it looks exactly like mirc!
[04:18] <Xtremeasure> jkmcrg: do me a favor run sudo fdisk -l
[04:18] <Xtremeasure> and paste bin the results
[04:20] <ubunty> Why do I get this message http://paste.ubuntu.com/7192789/  What could be the issue? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7192787/
[04:20] <selina345> im only installing linux in order to use RoR
[04:22] <icedwater> selina345: why would you want to do that?
[04:22] <selina345> icedwater: do what?
[04:22] <icedwater> Install linux just to use RoR.
[04:23] <selina345> it's a real pain to run ruby on windows
[04:23] <selina345> or rather learn ruby on windows
[04:23] <jkmcrg> Xtremeasure .. it doesn’t have any output…
[04:23] <selina345> what is a decent ram size
[04:23] <Xtremeasure> are you running off of the hardrive?
[04:23] <selina345> in order to install virtual box
[04:23] <okt> Yay for Synergy.
[04:24] <jkmcrg> Yeah… should I put any other options?
[04:24] <selina345> anyone?
[04:24] <Xtremeasure> you used sudo fdisk -l and go no output?
[04:24] <Xtremeasure> got*
[04:25] <jkmcrg> Yes.
[04:25] <jkmcrg> What does that mean?
[04:25] <Xtremeasure> not entirely sure
[04:26] <Xtremeasure> try sudo lsblk
[04:28] <Xtremeasure> jkmcrg: anything?
[04:29] <okt> Something has to be messed up with this machine, now I am missing all the adapters from my quad port NIC
[04:29] <jkmcrg> Xtremeasure: Sorry sorry I’m really grateful for your help, been installing testdisk
[04:30] <Xtremeasure> jkmcrg: its ok
[04:30] <Sweet_Ride> Xtremeasure, hi. I got the dual boot working perfectly. Just curious, is triple boot easier once you have dual boot set up, or is it OS dependant?
[04:30] <Sweet_Ride> dependent*
[04:31] <jkmcrg> Xtremeasure: http://pastebin.com/cYGUUpg8
[04:31] <jkmcrg> Output
[04:31] <Xtremeasure> Sweet_Ride couldnt tell yah i only boot ubuntu :) but stick around maybe someone else will be able to
[04:31] <Sweet_Ride> I dunno if you remember me, I was using a different username then, but it was pretty similar.
[04:31] <jkmcrg> I made sda1, installed linux on it, now poof. all gone
[04:31] <nreynolds> hi anyone got time to answer a quick questoin
[04:31] <nreynolds> question
[04:32] <nomic> what nreynolds
[04:32] <nreynolds> what does the caret mean on the end of some apt-get install commands?
[04:32] <nomic> you mean ^ (carat)
[04:32] <nreynolds> liyes
[04:32] <nreynolds> yes*
[04:32] <nomic> i dunno -- don't recall seeing one say sudo apt-get install package .. carat?.
[04:32] <nomic> if it works it works
[04:32] <AnonGrim> hello all
[04:32] <nomic> do not dispute
[04:32] <nreynolds> like this sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^
[04:33] <nreynolds> i'm wanting to install unity onto my ubuntu studio insall
[04:34] <nreynolds> this is my second time around because I had some stability issues before
[04:34] <AnonGrim> ive been working on the arm architecture so far ive almost got my verry own stable iso
[04:34] <jkmcrg> Xtremeasure: pastebin.com/aGa3YbiE
[04:34] <jkmcrg> sudo, of course it was sudo
[04:34] <nreynolds> so the carat means just ignore any problems with the install
[04:36] <nreynolds> ok never mind, on further searches i found it
[04:38] <Beldar> Sweet_Ride, I have 5 OS on one HD it is easy.
[04:38] <selina345> im installing vbox on which to run linux, and need to know whether i should create a virtual hard drive
[04:40] <Beldar> selina345, Yes than use the iso or the usb, the iso is easier. There is a #vbox channel id needed.
[04:40] <Beldar> if*
[04:41] <selina345> Thanks Beldar, i did ask there as well
[04:41] <selina345> crickets
[04:41] <selina345> lol
[04:41] <selina345> any suggestion as to which file type to use for the hard drive
[04:41] <selina345> ?
[04:42] <AnonGrim> hhd
[04:42] <AnonGrim> *hdd
[04:42] <Beldar> selina345, what choices are there I used?
[04:42] <Beldar> I used vdi I thin
[04:43] <selina345> VDI, VDHD, VMDK
[04:43] <selina345> QED
[04:43] <selina345> lol @ QED
[04:43] <Beldar> selina345, I liked vdi, I would just use the file on any vbox setup if needed.
[04:44] <Beldar> the file with a os that is
[04:44] <selina345> ok
[04:44] <selina345> it is the first one on the list
[04:45] <Beldar> I think all those file types have their special uses probably, you seem to have pretty basic need for ubuntu so what works for you really selina345
[04:45] <selina345> yeah, i went with that one
[04:46] <selina345> should i choose fixed size for storage on hard drive?
[04:46] <icedwater> selina345: ah, I see.
[04:46] <selina345> it says fixed size is faster to use
[04:48] <TJ-> selina345: Virtual disk file formats: VDI = VirtualBox native, V(D)HD = Microsoft Virtual PC, VMDK = VMware
[05:04] <selina345> hurray, it's installing!
[05:04] <selina345> so excited
[05:05] <rww> selina345: yay :)
[05:06] <selina345> man who ever thought of virtual box and cloud computing...
[05:06] <selina345> so incredible
[05:21] <gnihte> script1 >> data  ; script2 >> data; # anyway to do this two liner with one liner?
[05:21] <gnihte> i wanna append the result from script 1 and script2  to a file
[05:22] <rww> (script1; script2) >> data
[05:47] <ubunty> why do I keep getting "sudo: unable to resolve host (none)" during my PXE boot installation?
[05:48] <ubunty> It will complete the installation but with no internet access which I suspect it caused by this issue
[05:57] <M1L0> hi all
[05:57] <M1L0> how can i see user log for local web?
[05:59] <M1L0> how can i view my users logs via web?
[05:59] <M1L0> sorry about my english :S
[06:00] <M1L0> independently...
[06:00] <yillkid> Hi all, I have a question about the source command, I have a TI environment variable setting file (xxxx.env) http://paste.ubuntu.com/7192973/ and I can execute it using source command (with: source xxxx.env) on login shell, now I want to do the same thing in a shell script. I write a test code (. ./xxxx.env), nothing happened ... any idea ?
[06:02] <TJ-> yillkid: define "nothing"
[06:04] <M1L0> Holas... alguien hispano?
[06:05] <rww> ubottu: es
[06:07] <M1L0> thx bot!
[06:10] <yillkid> TJ-: OK ... I write a test.sh as below : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7193006/ , if this script works, all environment should be set and host name text/color should be changed,
[06:10] <yillkid> TJ-: ANd I expect PS1 to be changed after running the script ... not not
[06:14] <jj____> does there anyone know that how to partition in order to install full ubuntu onto a usb drive?
[06:15] <Evilmax> hi all
[06:15] <Evilmax> i need wwwdata performs some command that required root privileges: so...i added wwwdata in sudoers but this is insecure
[06:15] <Evilmax> any suggestions?
[06:16] <KyouReeUs4nfo> jj__: do you a live CD to use from a CD drive?
[06:16] <Evilmax> the command that wwwdata has to perform is "adduser" :)
[06:17] <Evilmax> there is a way to make able wwwdata to perform adduser without root privileges?
[06:17] <Jordan_U> jj____: The only difference in partitioning is that you (generally) have a smaller drive when installing to USB. Otherwise, a drive is a drive. For UEFI booting you will need to do some extra work to get the drive to boot on machines other than the one you installed with (with UEFI bootloaders register themselves semi-permanently with the firmware, though there is a protocol for making a drive bootable on any machine you connect ...
[06:17] <Evilmax> or a way to work around?
[06:17] <Jordan_U> ... it to it's not used by default for various reasons).
[06:18] <Evilmax> uè
[06:18] <Jordan_U> Evilmax: Allowing wwwdata to run adduser at all seems inherently insecure, and is probably the wrong way to go about achieving your end goal. What is your end goal?
[06:21] <qin> Evilmax: Do you want to let someone create system user via browser?
[06:23] <Evilmax> yes qin
[06:23] <Evilmax> and also others commands that required root privileges
[06:23] <Evilmax> there is a way to do it in securely?
[06:23] <Evilmax> there is a way to do it securely?
[06:23] <Evilmax> sorry my english
[06:24] <Jordan_U> Evilmax: What is your end goal?
[06:24] <Evilmax> my end goal is permit account creation via browser
[06:24] <Evilmax> possibly without these risks
[06:25] <Jordan_U> Evilmax: Why do you want to permit accout creation via browser?
[06:25] <Evilmax> it's not important "why" but: "it's possible get it without risks?"
[06:25] <Evilmax> that is my question
[06:26] <Evilmax> what do you think? Yes or Not?
[06:27] <qin> Evilmax: There is few browser based system managment solution, some of them claims to be quite secure ;)
[06:28] <Jordan_U> Evilmax: Possible? Yes. Feasable, probably not. User account creation is a fairly fundamental and inherently wide reaching task.
[06:28] <Evilmax> ok:)
[06:30] <Evilmax> ok...i will work on it then
[06:30] <qin> Evilmax: But handmad solution would be script completly separated from webserver
[06:30] <Evilmax> thanks to all!
[06:30] <Evilmax> yes qin
[06:31] <Evilmax> i already use separated scripts
[06:31] <Evilmax> but wwwdata, for use them, has to be a sudoers user
[06:31] <qin> Evilmax: so just use it to process forms from web, make sure to not make to many users per minute
[06:31] <Evilmax> thoose scripts are owned by root...but, probably, used by wwwdata
[06:32] <Evilmax> and wwwdata to perform the adduser command (that is in thhoose script) has to be sudoers
[06:32] <Evilmax> not understand
[06:32] <Evilmax> wait
[06:32] <Evilmax> let me explain
[06:33] <Evilmax> by usinng a web form...an user can create a system user. Wwwdata is a sudoers and it passes variables to a bash script owned by root
[06:33] <Evilmax> there is something insecure in this configuration?
[06:34] <Evilmax> also www files are owned by root
[06:34] <TJ-> Evilmax: why not use a drop-box directory to isolate the account creation from the process requesting it?
[06:34] <qin> Evilmax: why the heck wwwdata need to be sudoer?
[06:34] <Evilmax> and all permission are: wrxr-xr-x
[06:34] <Evilmax> owned by root
[06:35] <Evilmax> sorry tj
[06:35] <qin> Evilmax: damn form is just a text file, so any script can be separated form server
[06:35] <Evilmax> qin: wwdata has to be root to perform script commands
[06:35] <Evilmax> no?
[06:35] <qin> no
[06:35] <Evilmax> you say?
[06:35] <Evilmax> so wwwdata not sudoers can perform a script owned by root that contains an adduser command???
[06:35] <Evilmax> right?
[06:36] <Evilmax> if it's so...well: all solved
[06:36] <Evilmax> perform...i mean that pass variables to script from web form
[06:36] <TJ-> Evilmax: Have a system job as a shell script, using inotifywait to watch for a file to be created in a known directory, said file containing the name of the system user to be created, which is then read by the system script which then creates the user then deletes the file.
[06:37] <Evilmax> i do not uderstand you...TJ
[06:38] <Evilmax> anyway i will try to revoce sudoers privileges to wwwdata and check if it works anyway
[06:38] <Evilmax> revoke
[06:49] <Guest93341> Hi. I'm having problems trying to compile Realtek's closed source ethernet driver r8101, version 1.025.
[06:50] <Tha-Fox_> any idea why I'm getting these errors on ubuntu 10.04.4 while doing apt-get update? http://pastebin.com/9WLqQe7A
[06:50] <Tha-Fox_> the sources.list is default
[06:53] <Guest93341> Anyone have succeeded building Realtek's r8101 for Ubuntu 13.10?
[06:53] <Tha-Fox_> here is the sources.list: http://pastebin.com/m3XvmHbu
[06:53] <Jordan_U> Tha-Fox_: Try the U.S. Mirror. Is this Ubuntu Desktop or Ubuntu Server?
[06:55] <Tha-Fox_> Jordan_U: server
[06:56] <Tha-Fox_> just checked with browser that there is at least something in those urls
[07:00] <Tha-Fox_> Jordan_U: maybe it was just some glitch in the network connection or something because now it updates correctly
[07:00] <Tha-Fox_> thanks for your help anyway!
[07:07] <nekko> anyone experience long wait times in AWS ubuntu 13.10 instances?  nano takes >1minute to load...
[07:08] <Phoebus> Hey getting "E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/" ideas? While trying to use apt-get
[07:09] <cfhowlett> !aptlock|Phoebus
[07:10] <Phoebus> ubottu, no change.
[07:10] <guest000000> hello?
[07:10] <cfhowlett> guest000000 ask your ubuntu question.
[07:11] <guest000000> Sorry. I'm new, I need to know how to add Ubuntu to a Chromebook c720.
[07:11] <guest000000>  I know nothing about linux, so I need some help.
[07:12] <cfhowlett> guest000000 https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/764181-how-to-install-linux-on-an-acer-c720-chromebook
[07:12] <dw1> guest000000: google install ubuntu man :/
[07:12] <guest000000> Thanks.
[07:13] <guest000000> I have, but the information I got wasn't that helpful.
[07:16] <Guest55404> anyone knows other beautiful educational games/apps like little alchemy & lumosity
[07:18] <cfhowlett> Guest55404 see the software center.  also, perhaps, edubuntu
[07:20] <Guest55404> cfhowlett: where is software centr located? any website?, edubuntu what is this? website?
[07:20] <cfhowlett> Guest55404 ubuntu software center.  you ARE running ubuntu, right?  then you have it.
[07:20] <cfhowlett> !edubuntu
[07:22] <Guest55404> ubottu: & cfhowlett thanks
[07:22] <Guest55404> i am sorry to infrom eventhough i am not running ubuntu, i asked this general query. sorry for that
[07:23] <Guest000000> Another question, How many GBs should I let the Ubuntu installation use? The page I was linked to says 24GB, even though my Chromebook only has 16GBs..
[07:23] <cfhowlett> Guest55404  then I highly suggest you investigate edubuntu.
[07:23] <Guest55404> cfhowlett: sure, i am on that site now
[07:27] <Karimazondo> is there a way to see how large a file is before downloading it from the command line? eg http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.346.orig.tar.gz
[07:27] <Karimazondo>  
[07:27] <sadpuppy> distrowatch.com
[07:28] <cfhowlett> sadpuppy ask your ubuntu question
[07:28] <Karimazondo> how large is this file: http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.346.orig.tar.gz
[07:28] <Karimazondo>  
[07:28] <somsip> Karimazondo: go to the parent dir and check the file size, eg http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/
[07:28] <sadpuppy> most linux os
[07:28] <cfhowlett> !english|sadpuppy
[07:29] <Karimazondo> somsip: that does work, though some parent directories don't have read permissions
[07:29] <Karimazondo> somsip: though in this case it does
[07:29] <TJ-> Karimazondo: Yes,  prefix the URL with "curl -GI "
[07:29] <sadpuppy> that was english newbie
[07:29] <TJ-> Karimazondo: As in, "curl -GI http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.346.orig.tar.gz"
[07:30] <Karimazondo> TJ-: THANKS
[07:30] <cfhowlett> sadpuppy lose the attitude.
[07:30] <TJ-> Karimazondo: "Content-Length: 14135764"
[07:31] <sadpuppy> tell that to cfhowlett
[07:32] <sadpuppy> you want it in pig latin
[07:32] <linuxist> hahahaha
[07:32] <cfhowlett> TJ- question: "content length" = MB?
[07:34] <TJ-> cfhowlett: It should be the same unit as Accept-Ranges, but not sure I've ever seen anything other than bytes (octets)
[07:34] <cfhowlett> TJ- thanhttp://www.reddit.com/r/TEFL/comments/21zfoi/looking_for_articles_for_intermediate_level/k you
[07:34] <cfhowlett> TJ- thanks
[07:34] <cfhowlett> ignore the first - ctrl paste tourettes
[07:35] <Karimazondo> cfhowlett: i believe that is in bytes
[07:35] <Karimazondo> so roughly 13 megabytes
[07:35] <cfhowlett> Karimazondo good enough
[07:35] <Karimazondo> i was hoping for a flat for wget to check file size
[07:35] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Karimazondo: wget --spider filelocation
[07:35] <Karimazondo> though... curl is good enough
[07:38] <dennis_> exit
[07:41] <kongthap> hi, anyone please recommend auto tile windows manager for me
[07:42] <Karimazondo> wget --spider works even better for checking the file size of a remote file over http
[07:42] <Karimazondo> thanks
[07:42] <Karimazondo> it shows the size of the file in MB as well
[07:43] <Karimazondo> KyouReeUs4nfo
[07:43] <k1l> kongthap: awesome
[07:43] <Karimazondo> can't believe i didn't see that when i read the man page for wget (i assumed spider was for recursive fetching)
[07:44] <kongthap> k1l, can it be used with 13.10?
[07:44] <k1l> !info awesome
[07:45] <_rsc`> hi
[07:45] <k1l> kongthap: but be aware, that tiling WMs need some time to get used to it
[07:45] <somsip> kongthap: Full list, but dwm, awesome and xmond seem to be popular http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager#List_of_tiling_window_managers_for_X
[07:45] <somsip> *xmonad
[07:46] <kongthap> k1l, thanks :)
[07:46] <kongthap> somsip, after installed xmonad i cannot start it, don't know why
[07:46] <parapan> hi folks > I need a piece of advice I've recovered an ATI Radeon X7000 installed on a desktop with ubuntu 12.04; from the site I've downloaded a linux driver ....some file with a .run extension ...should I install this ?
[07:46] <ryck> Hi. U1 says the selected directory is not valid ("~/.Private"). What can I do?
[07:47] <somsip> kongthap: I look into dwm and xmonad and ended up with awesome. YMMV
[07:47] <k1l> kongthap: choose that session on the login menue
[07:47] <kongthap> k1l, how, can you explain me little more ?
[07:47] <parapan> driver downloaded from here ...http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/legacy?product=Legacy1&os=Linux%20x86
[07:48] <Tex_Nick> kongthap: for ssh clusterssh is cool ... & gui, compiz has a "Grid" functyion
[07:48] <Tex_Nick> function*
[07:48] <k1l> kongthap: on the login site at startup you can choose which installed desktop you want to start. there should be Ubuntu or UNity as default. just click on it and choose aweseome
[07:49] <ryck> Is it not possible to sync hidden directories?
[07:49] <kongthap> https://dg139.s3.amazonaws.com/ubuntu/desktops/ubuntuAwesomeLogin.jpg is awesome kind of desktop environment, it's not just an app running on ubuntu?
[07:50] <kongthap> k1l, it's not just an app running on ubuntu right?
[07:50] <k1l> you wanted an tiling WM. that it is
[07:50] <kongthap> k1l, i will have a try thanks
[07:52] <kongthap> i found this installation command su -c "apt-get install awesome awesome-extra" what password it requires because i typed sudo's password but it's not working
[07:53] <k1l> kongthap: stop
[07:53] <k1l> just run a sudo apt-get install awesome awesome-extra
[07:53] <k1l> !away > makije
[07:54] <kongthap> k1l, what is su anyway ?
[07:54] <k1l> SwitchUser command
[07:55] <cfhowlett> !su
[07:56] <kongthap> k1l, after finish the installation i just have to relogin with awesome instead of unity right?
[07:56] <k1l> yes
[07:57] <kongthap> k1l, after choosing awesome at login, next time it will always boot into awesome ?
[07:57] <k1l> yes
[07:58] <kongthap> k1l, any gui app for setup auto start/manual start services ?
[07:59] <k1l> kongthap: for awesome?
[08:01] <kongthap> k1l, just for common services, like apache, mysql, etc..
[08:01] <k1l> kongthap: oh. i thought your were talking about a desktop.
[08:02] <k1l> if you install apache and stuff on ubuntu (with the package managenment system) they do autostart anyway
[08:02] <e01> hello, i am on ubuntu 13.10 and seems that unity not manage my windows anymore
[08:02] <kongthap> k1l, i meant, after install many services, i prefer some of them not to auto start
[08:02] <reisio> e01: what happens instead?
[08:02] <k1l> e01: make sure the video driver is working
[08:03] <e01> i mean when i maximize window, it still had it own decoration instead of moving the close,minimize and maximize button and titlebar in the unity panel
[08:03] <e01> k1l: video driver is working, i am sure on it
[08:03] <k1l> e01: could be a theme thing
[08:04] <hotmedal> So I was mucking around with gnome 3.10 on saucy and the screenlock had a glitch where it would continuously try to enter the password (like holding down the enter key). I have no idea how, but I made it crash and rebooted. The default fancy lock was gone so I ran gnome-screensaver to get the old lock back. It works perfectly except on lid down. Any idea how I can trigger screenlock with lid down?
[08:05] <e01> k1l: nope, also ambiance act like this
[08:05] <k1l> kongthap: then change the rc.d levels
[08:06] <MadZarx> hello
[08:06] <MadZarx> :)
[08:06] <MadZarx> HELLO :D
[08:07] <MadZarx> anyone here
[08:07] <MadZarx> ?
[08:07] <hotmedal> yes, there are many people here
[08:07] <MadZarx> I see :)
[08:08] <cfhowlett> MadZarx ask your ubuntu question
[08:09] <MadZarx> okay, how can I set a system wide ssh tunnel?
[08:09] <cfhowlett> !ssh MadZarx
[08:09] <MadZarx> android SDK cannot be downloaded in my country so I have to use a proxy
[08:09] <MadZarx> but
[08:09] <MadZarx> ssh just sets a tunnel
[08:09] <MadZarx> for the apps that support proxy
[08:09] <cfhowlett> !ssh | MadZarx
[08:09] <kongthap> k1l, by default which run level ubuntu boots to?
[08:10] <k1l> kongthap: sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 remove    #that removes apache from autostart
[08:10] <k1l> sudo update-rc.d apache2 defaults    #that makes it autostart again
[08:11] <kongthap> k1l, i can do that with any service name right?
[08:11] <MadZarx> @ubottu i know how to work with ssh
[08:11] <ihre> MadZarx: ubottu is a bot
[08:11] <MadZarx> D:
[08:12] <k1l> kongthap: if they have init.d scripts.
[08:13] <e01> k1l: other ideas?
[08:13] <MadZarx> so how can i set a system wide ssh tunnel? i want to use socks proxy in some apps that doesn't support proxy
[08:14] <e01> the interesting is that i see the app menues, but when minimize titlebars is taying
[08:15] <MadZarx> I use "ssh -D <port> <host>" to connect to my vps for ssh tunneling. Browsers can tunnel the traffic through this connection. But some applications cant. How can I force those apps to tunnel their traffic through this ssh tunnel?
[08:16] <hotmedal> MadZarx: can't you use this from network manager?
[08:16] <hotmedal> do this*
[08:16] <MadZarx> hotmedal: im using XUbuntu
[08:17] <MadZarx> hotmedal: XUbuntu doesnt have network manager :(
[08:17] <hotmedal> http://askubuntu.com/questions/150210/how-do-i-set-systemwide-proxy-servers-in-xubuntu-lubuntu-or-ubuntu-studio
[08:18] <MadZarx> hotmedal: thank you bro :)
[08:18] <allaga_> hey :)
[08:19] <hotmedal> MadZarx: it was the first result on google
[08:19] <MadZarx> hotmedal, The first place I though I can find a good answer was here ;)
[08:21] <hotmedal> So I was mucking around with gnome 3.10 on saucy and the screenlock had a glitch where it would continuously try to enter the password (like holding down the enter key). I have no idea how, but I made it crash and rebooted. The default fancy lock was gone so I ran gnome-screensaver to get the old lock back. It works perfectly except on lid down. Any idea how I can trigger screenlock with lid down? UPDATE: I'm using lightdm instead of gdm, that's why the
[08:24] <MadZarx> hotmedal: I think there is a problem with gnome screensaver. I had a problem with it when I was using Kali linux. When I wanted to unlock the screen, my system freeze and the only thing I had to do was a nice reboot :(
[08:25] <ubuntu_fan> I want create simple .sh scripts, that makes ssh connection to my host and apply password to it automatically , I want to login directly
[08:27] <MadZarx> ubuntu_fan, I guess this is not possible
[08:28] <ubuntu_fan> MadZarx:  like if i want connect my ip, 192.168.1.11, then I need ssh root@192.168.1.11 , then  it ask for a password. I want write a script that gives password automaticall. I will store my password in that file
[08:29] <MadZarx> ubuntu_fan: I wanted to do this, but I don't think this is possible. There might be some other applications that can do this
[08:29] <ubuntu_fan> MadZarx:  why not a shell script can do this
[08:31] <MadZarx> ubuntu_fan: not sure, you may want google it ;)
[08:31] <ubuntu_fan> I trying that too
[09:03] <e01> k1l: wow, i fixed it :D
[09:04] <e01> from unity tweak tool, window controls -> restore default
[09:16] <revo3> i used to export some PATH in a .sh script and run it like  ./export.sh .  after that the path would be updated. I forgot how to call the script so the exports work after that, what was the param for the sh script to nest a new bash with correct environment?
[09:16] <humbag> ubuntu_fan: you make a public/private keypair
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> revo3: is the top line of your script:   #!/bin/bash    ?
[09:17] <revo3> was . the correct param?
[09:18] <revo3> its a little weirder than that, im running that script inside android ssh terminal :)
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> revo3: the client is moot
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> revo3: you will only need ./ if  the script is in pwd
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> revo3: what does the script actually do?
[09:20] <revo3> exports paths for mc and nano and other stuff that normally android shell doesnt have, wich got instaleld with a nice package insde com.spartacusrex.spartacuside
[09:21] <revo3> thing is i used to call that script with some parameter and the shell with nest with all those exports
[09:21] <revo3> instead of pasting 4-5 long lines each time i ssh to that box
[09:21] <geirha> revo3: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/060
[09:23] <geirha> why not just put it in your .profile or .bash_profile?
[09:23] <revo3> its even weirder android provides some KSH actually
[09:23] <jacobw> I have an Dell XPS 13 that came with Ubuntu, it's no longer running Ubuntu and has to recovery partition. Is it possible to restore it to the factory state?
[09:24] <cfhowlett> jacobw yes, but you need to go to Dell for support of their product
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> revo3: put it in $HOME/.bashrc   it will be ran when bash starts, just like the other stuff in the file
[09:24] <geirha> revo3: yes, mksh
[09:25] <peewee> help: virtualbox guest additions was installed but not working after reboot. xubuntu
[09:25] <cfhowlett> peewee reinstall the guest additions
[09:25] <peewee> done
[09:25] <peewee> still not working
[09:25] <jacobw> cfhowlett: I'm doing that too, I'm trying official and community support in parallel :)
[09:28] <saji89> Hi.
[09:29] <interweb> Is there anything like oh-my-zsh but for bash ?
[09:30] <red234324> sudo tasksel install lamp-server installs apache/mysql/php - does it install phpmyadmin too ?
[09:30] <saji89> The installation of postgresql server in Ubuntu 12.04 fails. Its seems to be due to incomplete configuration of postgresql-common package. I purged all packages related to postgresql, tried to reinstall postgresql-common package only. Still error was occuring
[09:30] <saji89> The error occuring can be found at: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7193500/
[09:30] <saji89> Any idea what to do next?
[09:31] <brothersome> saji89, sudo apt-get update
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> interweb: https://github.com/revans/bash-it
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> interweb: took me what....120 seconds to find...
[09:32] <red234324> ok looks like I need to - sudo apt-get  install phpmyadmin
[09:33] <saji89> brothersome: I tried that as well.
[09:34] <saji89> brothersome: Still I'm getting the same issue.
[09:34] <CodeGosu> i accidently started xfce as root, now nm-applet ( thingy that can configure network stuff ) have Configure VPN button grayed out when starting xfce as normal user is there any way to fix that?
[09:34] <CodeGosu> or is there other network manager gui that let me configure vpn?
[09:34] <interweb> ActionParsnip, I sent my question on 13:59:28 and you answered on 14:02:33 in my time ,
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> interweb: still not long at all...
[09:34] <interweb> ActionParsnip, :P anyway thanks for it
[09:35] <NuSuey> can somebody explain where can I find some easy-to-understand print settings explanations or some software which would replace the non-user-friendly print settings? I wanna print something, but can't find any quick .. "HEY I DON'T WANT TO USE ALL OF MY TONER FOR THIS PAPER" setting
[09:36] <k1l> CodeGosu: make sure all in your /home/User/ folder belongs to user:user and not root:root
[09:36] <k1l> CodeGosu: and dont ever ever start stuff as root again that is not meant to
[09:36] <brothersome> NuSuey: Keep the environment clean, leave it on your screen
[09:36] <NuSuey> brothersome: uhm, sorry?
[09:37] <brothersome> NuSuey, is that something?
[09:37] <wonderworld> i can examine a machines load average with top work 1, 5 and 15 minutes. is there a way to get data for longer periods, like 1 day or 1 week?
[09:37] <cfhowlett> !cups|NuSuey
[09:38] <lynette> G'day my fellow Ubuntu inmates :-) I trust you are all doing well today
[09:39] <NuSuey> cfhowlett: my problem wasn't setting it up.. the printer prints (out of the box), but what I miss are some easy-understandable settings instead of choosing a DPI setting :o
[09:39] <zetheroo>  Is there a GUI for OpenIPMI?
[09:41] <ksuhku> "Unless you have opted out we will send your keystrokes to third parties including: Facebook, Twitter, BBC and Amazon." -- http://www.ubuntu.com/privacy-policy   For the whole list of third parties, see http://www.ubuntu.com/privacy-policy/third-parties
[09:41] <ksuhku> https://fixubuntu.com/
[09:41] <lynette> I am new to Ubuntu I tried to install the most current version of Ubuntu that being 14.04 only to get error saying it can't complete partitioning the hard drive on my Samsung ATIV8 Laptop. Any suggestions ? is this a bug in the installer ?
[09:42] <SaDIKuZboy> hello dudes.... anyone knows about an issue on xterms? latest lines are disappearing and forcing me to scroll up/down to be read
[09:43] <ikonia> sounds like your terminal type is set wrong
[09:43] <ikonia> or your terminal is too small visually
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> SaDIKuZboy: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[09:43] <SaDIKuZboy> Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
[09:44] <saji89>  The installation of postgresql server in Ubuntu 12.04 fails. Its seems to be due to incomplete configuration of postgresql-common package. I purged all packages related to postgresql, tried to reinstall postgresql-common package only. Still error was occuring
[09:44] <Guest6769> What is the url for the channel logs?
[09:44] <lynette> I am new to Ubuntu I tried to install the most current version of Ubuntu that being 14.04 only to get error saying it can't complete partitioning the hard drive on my Samsung ATIV8 Laptop. Any suggestions ? is this a bug in the installer ?
[09:44] <saji89> The error occuring can be found at: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7193500/
[09:44] <ikonia> irclogs.ubuntu.com
[09:44] <saji89> How to solve this?
[09:45] <ikonia> saji89: looks like it's failing to add the user postgres
[09:45] <revo3> ActionParsnip, so simple just copying that scrit to $HOME/.profile (bashrc in android terminal doest work kindof) thanks for the help
[09:45] <cfhowlett> lynette 14.04 has NOT been released yet.  suggest either 12.04 or 13.10
[09:46] <saji89> ikonia: Any idea how to overcome that error?
[09:46] <ikonia> saji89: my first question is what version of ubuntu is this ?
[09:46] <saji89> ikonia: It is Ubutnu 12.04 LTS.
[09:47] <saji89> ikonia: Its is Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS to be precise.
[09:47] <ikonia> saji89: is this physical hardware of a virtual machine
[09:47] <saji89> ikonia: Its a physcial hardware.
[09:47] <ikonia> !info postgressql-common precise
[09:47] <lynette> cfhowlett, Is Ubuntu 14.04 due out on the 8th ?
[09:47] <ikonia> !info postgresql-common precise
[09:47] <cfhowlett> lynette 17th
[09:48] <ikonia> saji89: ok, so the good news it loks like it' spulling the right packages
[09:48] <cfhowlett> !trusty  lynette
[09:48] <cfhowlett> !trusty  lynette
[09:48] <cfhowlett> !trusty | lynette
[09:48] <ikonia> saji89: try as a test add the user postgres, see what it does - maybe it will give a more useful error
[09:48] <ikonia> saji89: very worring that it seems to fail to add the user though
[09:48] <akiva-mobile> Why is this happening : http://imagebin.org/303420
[09:48] <Guest6769> ikonia, very well, next time highlight in response
[09:49] <lynette> cfhowlett, You have been very kind thank you I just wish I knew why the partioning in it is defective now.
[09:49] <saji89> ikonia: Ya, Adding a user shouldn't usually cause problems.
[09:49] <saji89> ikonia: Any possible problems if I manually add the user postgres?
[09:49] <SaDIKuZboy> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS ... latest lines on xterm just disapper until I dont scroll up/down, that doesnt happen on mrxvt but i dont feel comfy with it
[09:49] <ikonia> saji89: it may not be the user adding thats the problem, but seeing as it trys to do a --configure after it I'd like to try the install with the user in place
[09:49] <ikonia> saji89: wrong UID/GID - that's pretty much it, but we can fix that later, lets get some useful output first
[09:50] <k1l> akiva-mobile: please dont crosspost
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> SaDIKuZboy: do other terminals work as expected (gnome-terminal, tilda, guake etc)
[09:50] <akiva-mobile> k1l, Sorry.
[09:50] <saji89> ikonia, Ok let me add tehe user.
[09:50] <Guest6769> ikonia, confirm comprehension
[09:50] <k1l> akiva-mobile: for ubuntu sdk problems best ask in the app developer channel
[09:50] <Guest6769> ikonia, confirm receipt
[09:51] <akiva-mobile> k1l, :/ I just did, and you told me not to
[09:51] <saji89> ikonia: sudo adduser postgers, should do it. Right?
[09:51] <SaDIKuZboy> ActionParsnip: I think this starts happening as soon as i right-click and select Huge font - other terminals seem to work ok
[09:51] <saji89> ikonia:Sorry.  sudo adduser postgres, should do it. Right?
[09:51] <akiva-mobile> ikonia, wait, what issue you having?
[09:52] <ikonia> saji89: I don't know the adduser syntax as I never use it, adduser --help should work
[09:52] <akiva-mobile> postgres should coe installed
[09:52] <ikonia> akiva-mobile: none
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> SaDIKuZboy: if you make a ne ubuntu user and log in as that, its it the same?
[09:52] <simon_> #experlytics
[09:52] <akiva-mobile> saji89, oh you are having issues with postgres?
[09:52] <saji89> ikonia: Ok.
[09:52] <SaDIKuZboy> ActionParsnip: I reinstalled Ubuntu twice over time and it was the same
[09:52] <saji89> akiva-mobile: Not postgres, per-say, but with its installation.
[09:53] <akiva-mobile> saji89, what distro you running?
[09:53] <akiva-mobile> saji89, because i was confused with postgres user at first too. its there, but you don't log into it.
[09:53] <saji89> akiva-mobile: Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
[09:53] <akiva-mobile> saji89, server or desktop?
[09:53] <saji89> akiva-mobile: desktop
[09:54] <akiva-mobile> saji89, and postgresql is installed, right?
[09:54] <akiva-mobile> saji89, I'm 99 percent sure the user postgres is already in your system
[09:54] <saji89> akiva-mobile: No. The installation failed, and that is my problem.
[09:55] <akiva-mobile> saji89, the package from the repos did not install?
[09:55] <akiva-mobile> saji89, or are you building from source?
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> SaDIKuZboy: sounds like a bug then
[09:55] <saji89> akiva-mobile: Yes. Its the package from the repos.
[09:55] <akiva-mobile> saji89, and its giving you what error?
[09:56] <akiva-mobile> saji89, Did the package itself refuse to install?
[09:56] <SaDIKuZboy>  ActionParsnip: gnome-terminal works great
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> SaDIKuZboy: may have to use that then, til the bug is sorted
[09:57] <saji89> akiva-mobile: The package postgresql-common is seeming to be causing the problem, the error I'm getting is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7193500/
[09:57] <chichovv> is the xubuntu installer automatically fixed if the ubuntu installer is repaired aswell?
[09:57] <chichovv> I'm referring to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parted/+bug/1300072
[09:58] <akiva-mobile> saji89, o_O
[09:58] <ikonia> chichovv: that should be common across both
[09:58] <akiva-mobile> saji89, issue here is that the package should install the user for you
[09:58] <akiva-mobile> saji89, and its a very specific configuration for that user
[09:59] <chichovv> ikonia: phew, nice. Then I can run the installer once the newest version is uploaded
[09:59] <akiva-mobile> saji89, second, let me check my postgres install
[09:59] <saji89> akiva-mobile:  Ok. But I'm unable to make out what the specific error here, is.
[09:59] <saji89> akiva-mobile: Ok.
[10:00] <akiva-mobile> saji89, its just the user. Have you much experience with postgres?
[10:00] <saji89> akiva-mobile: In the sql side, I have experience. As of the server side configurations, I'm a novic.
[10:01] <saji89> akiva-mobile: novice*
[10:01] <akiva-mobile> saji89, okay. Are you doing this through terminal, synaptic, or software center?
[10:03] <saji89> akiva-mobile: From the terminal.
[10:03] <akiva-mobile> saji89,  common is not the package you need afaik, try just "sudo apt-get install postgresql"
[10:04] <interweb> Is it safe to use Google chrome on ubuntu ?
[10:04] <akiva-mobile> interweb, safe in what regard?
[10:05] <akiva-mobile> interweb, stability? Canonical support?
[10:05] <saji89> akiva-mobile: I need to isntall postgresql server and postgresql-client, it pulls up the psotgersql-common package automatically as a dependency.
[10:05] <akiva-mobile> saji89, did you try my command?
[10:05] <dw1> interweb: everybody's doing it.. but nothing is safe... haha
[10:05] <interweb> akiva-mobile, I mean do anybody read the source of it to ensure does it have any malware or something ?
[10:06] <interweb> dw1, ^^
[10:06] <akiva-mobile> interweb, Why not chromium if you are concerned?
[10:06] <akiva-mobile> interweb, that one is open sauce if I recall correctly
[10:07] <interweb> akiva-mobile, the main reason is that it does not update fast ,
[10:07] <saji89> akiva-mobile: No. I'll try it now.
[10:07] <akiva-mobile> interweb, did you try yelling at it?
[10:07] <interweb> akiva-mobile, what ?
[10:08] <akiva-mobile> interweb, sorry :P. I wasnt aware that chrome was more modern than chromium, but I don't understand what substantial benefit there is one to the other.
[10:09] <vlad_starkov> QUESTION: I'm about to mount /tmp into RAM. For that, what line should I add in /etc/fstab: 1) "tmpfs  /tmp  tmpfs  defaults,noatime,mode=1777  0  0" OR "tmpfs  /tmp  tmpfs  defaults,noatime,mode=1777,nosuid  0  0"?
[10:09] <dw1> interweb: just assume google is spying on you and dont worry :p
[10:09] <ikonia> vlad_starkov: thats up to you, those options are your personal choice
[10:09] <dw1> interweb: 'malware' is a strong word. theyre usually mostly harmless :)
[10:09] <vlad_starkov> ikonia: The question is, should I use "nosuid" param?
[10:09] <ikonia> vlad_starkov: thats up to you,
[10:10] <interweb> dw1, I think I should use spyware instead
[10:10] <vlad_starkov> ikonia: I think, I'm not completely understand this param
[10:10] <dw1> interweb: it would remove all doubt
[10:10] <ikonia> vlad_starkov: then don't use it
[10:10] <vlad_starkov> ikonia: thanks :)
[10:10] <saji89> akiva-mobile: The command is being executed. The interenet speed here, is a bit on the slower side right now.
[10:10] <dw1> interweb: google's next app.. google malware(beta)
[10:10] <akiva-mobile> saji89, I know the feels
[10:11] <interweb> dw1, :)))
[10:11] <akiva-mobile> saji89, hopefully you did not create a postgres user
[10:11] <akiva-mobile> otherwise the package may run into a conflict
[10:11] <interweb> dw1, Love that "(beta)"
[10:11] <saji89> akiva-mobile: I created one, removed it using   sudo userdel -r postgres
[10:11] <dw1> interweb: it may fail to harm you.. its in testing :(
[10:12] <akiva-mobile> saji89, Yah; making the mistakes that I did. The user is a very specific group and type, and not something you can run a desktop from
[10:13] <saji89> akiva-mobile: :)
[10:14] <akiva-mobile> saji89, it worked?
[10:14] <saji89> akiva-mobile: So, I completed executing the command you put up. Error again. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7193652/
[10:14] <akiva-mobile> sec
[10:14] <akiva-mobile>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7193652/
[10:14] <akiva-mobile> saji89, oh geez
[10:14] <akiva-mobile> saji89, circular dependencies...
[10:15] <ikonia> no, it's not
[10:15] <ikonia> akiva-mobile: do you actually understand anything you are saying ??
[10:15] <akiva-mobile> ikonia, yah it is.
[10:15] <akiva-mobile> Because common needs a user, and postgres creates that user
[10:15] <ikonia> I've just sat and watched you talk utter nonsense and fail to guide with any thought or understanding of the user
[10:15] <ikonia> I'll leave you to it then
[10:16] <akiva-mobile> ikonia, if you have a different opinion, I respect that, but to call me out and insult me is both rude and disrespectful.
[10:16] <ikonia> akiva-mobile: because it's correct
[10:17] <ikonia> let me know when you've managed to "fix this"
[10:17] <akiva-mobile> ikonia, do it in private if you need to.
[10:17] <akiva-mobile> ikonia, This is not a competition. What is your solution?
[10:17] <ikonia> akiva-mobile: I was working it through with the user before you stopped him and took him down a dead end, so you can fix it now - I'm going to do other things
[10:18] <akiva-mobile> ikonia, You could have said something.
[10:18] <ikonia> akiva-mobile: I did - you carried on blind
[10:18] <ikonia> hence why I stopped
[10:18] <ikonia> you didn't even read the question before you started "helping"
[10:19] <akiva-mobile> ikonia, all you said to me was "None"
[10:19] <ikonia> good look fixing it
[10:19] <ikonia> luck even
[10:21] <saji89> ikonia: akiva-mobile Guys please.. :(
[10:21] <joris> Hi. My eth0:0 keeps going unreachable until I ifdown;ifup it. Anything wrong with this /etc/network/interfaces ? http://pastie.org/private/hpafsuqjtnqbjvxh2keqkg
[10:21] <joris> After I ifdown;ifup it, all is good
[10:22] <saji89> ikonia: akiva-mobile, I tried what ikonia told, created user postgers with:  sudo useradd -r -s /bin/false postgres
[10:22] <akiva-mobile> saji89, did it work?
[10:22] <saji89> ikonia: akiva-mobile Now the installation completed.
[10:23] <akiva-mobile> saji89, I think that is great. Sorry if I mislead you
[10:23] <saji89> akiva-mobile: Yes, I think it did, as the instllation completed, without any error.
[10:24] <saji89> akiva-mobile: Its ok. You were only trying to help. thank you for your time. :)
[10:24] <Guest72233> Hello everyone! i have a question about libs linking. I have compiles *.so lib and *.o for java wrapper
[10:24] <Guest72233> how can i link them together?
[10:24] <Guest72233> * compiled *.so
[10:24] <akiva-mobile> saji89, thanks I appreciate your consideration.
[10:25] <saji89> ikonia: Can postgresql work with the manual user I created using: sudo useradd -r -s /bin/false postgres
[10:25] <akiva-mobile> saji89, why not try it?
[10:25] <red234324> for localhost testing I installed ubuntu lamp + phpmyadmin + wordpress and all is fine - I still need an FTP server which was included in xampp but not in lamp it seems, anyone have a recommendation ?
[10:27] <brothersome> Guest72233, Previx the so in the gcc command line with -l
[10:29] <saji89> akiva-mobile: Yes. I'm trying it now.
[10:31] <Guest72233> brothersome, i tried this  gcc -shared -Wl,-soname,libReaderLib.so -o libReaderLib.so.1 *.o
[10:32] <Guest72233> but as i understand it doesn't work
[10:32] <Guest72233>  ldd libReaderLib.so.1
[10:32] <Guest72233> 	linux-vdso.so.1 =>  (0x00007fb7e7b61000)
[10:32] <Guest72233> 	libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007fb7e7579000)
[10:32] <Guest72233> 	/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007fb7e7b62000)
[10:32] <Guest72233> no info about original lib in ldd :/
[10:33] <Ben64> Guest72233: please don't spam that much in the channel, use a pastebin. and this channel is not really for help with compiling, you should seek a channel dedicated to the language you're using
[10:33] <Guest72233> sorry :)
[10:37] <saji89> akiva-mobile: , ikonia: Itw orks fine.
[10:38] <saji89> akiva-mobile: ikonia: Thanks guys. Thanks for your time.
[10:38] <akiva-mobile> saji89, In the future I should hold my tongue, as his advice ultimately won out.
[10:39] <akiva-mobile> saji89, you were good to listen to him. Later
[10:39] <saji89> akiva-mobile: I guess we were wrong in assuming that a specific user/ group had to do with it.
[10:40] <saji89> akiva-mobile: You were doing good man, you were tyring to help me. But I should say that even though what ikonia told about you was right, he put it up a bit rudely. Any how guys chill. :)
[10:41] <saji89> ikonia: Thank you. That worked.
[10:41] <akiva-mobile> saji89, mmmmm, no I think ikonia's command created a specific type of user.  Again, it was my lack of knowledge. I ended up solving this issue but in a more roundabout way
[10:42] <akiva-mobile> saji89, it was rude for me to butt in like I did. Anyways.
[10:43] <saji89> akiva-mobile: Its not ikonia's command. :) Its just a command to create a user without home directory. I got it from: http://askubuntu.com/a/29364/11932
[10:44] <Guest5230> hello folks
[10:44] <slikts> how come when I install `winetricks allfonts` I still don't see the fonts in any font picker dialog?
[10:44] <Rubas> is it possible for 2 users to own the same folder?
[10:44] <reisio> hello... zokko
[10:45] <slikts> when I try to do `winetricks consolas` it says it's already installed, for instance
[10:45] <reisio> Rubas: essentially
[10:45] <reisio> slikts: they're installed for apps that use Wine
[10:45] <zokko> reisio: s/folder/catalogue/; still, it's posix. ;-)
[10:45] <reisio> slikts: not your ordinary system
[10:45] <zokko> hello reisio
[10:45] <Rubas> reisio: the /var/www is owned by www-data, my user rubas - want's to own it too
[10:45] <Rubas> or have write permission atleast
[10:45] <reisio> zokko: was Rubas
[10:45] <zokko> i've a problem with zookeeperd dependencies, maybe someone know something about it?
[10:45] <reisio> zokko: about what
[10:45] <zokko> reisio: yes. sorry ;-)
[10:46] <zokko> reisio: zookeeperd : Depends: zookeeper (= 3.3.5+dfsg1-1ubuntu1) but 3.4.5+16-1.cdh4.2.1.p0.8~precise-cdh4.2.1 is to be installed
[10:46] <slikts> reisio: well poop
[10:46] <reisio> Rubas: what good would owning it do?
[10:46] <reisio> slikts: ?
[10:46] <Rubas> hello reisio :)
[10:46] <reisio> slikts: you can install them for your ordinary system, too
[10:46] <slikts> reisio: what's the easiest way to do that?
[10:46] <Rubas> reisio: so I don't have to sudo every time I need to make a file
[10:46] <reisio> slikts: for consolas?
[10:46] <Tomek78> who can help me chose linux distro for desktop?
[10:46] <slikts> reisio: yes
[10:47] <TFeldt> if they're regular ttfs then just copy the fonts over slikts. go into your wineprefix and double click them to use the font manager.
[10:47] <Rubas> Tomek78: what do you look for?
[10:47] <reisio> Tomek78: Debian
[10:47] <Tomek78> which distribution is stable and well done?
[10:47] <slikts> Tomek78: 12.04
[10:47] <reisio> Tomek78: Debian
[10:47] <Tomek78> Debian?
[10:47] <slikts> reisio: he said well done
[10:47] <Rubas> Tomek78: depends, debian is great - but if you are new - start with ubuntu
[10:47] <reisio> slikts: you realize that Ubuntu is sourced from Debian :p
[10:48] <Tomek78> I look for a stable desktop for internet
[10:48] <Rubas> Tomek78: go for debian
[10:48] <reisio> slikts: yes for consolas, you'd want to just copy it into an appropriate font dir
[10:48] <Tomek78> ok
[10:48] <slikts> reisio: there's a difference, though; with debian stable you get outdated packages, much less so than with 12.04
[10:48] <Tomek78> what about sun solaris?
[10:48] <sudipj> Does some one know how to stop the iptables, ip6tables on ubuntu 13.10
[10:48] <reisio> slikts: but Ubuntu doesn't have a stable branch, so the comparison is pointless
[10:48] <Rubas> Tomek78: if you need eye-candy, "awesome" UI features go with ubuntu
[10:48] <slikts> reisio: 12.04 is pretty stable
[10:49] <reisio> slikts: that's an argument one could make, but it's no more stable than the equivalent _testing_ version of Debian that it came from
[10:49] <Tomek78> debian, i will try it
[10:49] <slikts> reisio: oh yeah? :P
[10:49] <reisio> slikts: yarp
[10:49] <Rubas> slikts: it's true :P
[10:50] <reisio> if your font isn't noticed, look into the fc-cache command
[10:50] <reisio> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[10:51] <Tomek78> what is solaris 10 and 11 is it for servers?
[10:51] <ikonia> try asking in #solaris
[10:51] <reisio> Tomek78: it's a proprietary Unix system you don't want
[10:52] <Rubas> Tomek78: I agree with reisio
[10:52] <zokko> lol
[10:52] <zokko> Solaris 10 is AWESOME.
[10:52] <zokko> why dont you like it? :-)
[10:52] <Rubas> zokko: my shoes are awesome aswell, but I don't know if everybody can use them
[10:52] <Rubas> zokko: the size is 42
[10:52] <reisio> it's unlikely you'd want it even if you could afford it
[10:52] <bekks> Tomek78: Solaris is a UNIX system, not a linux.
[10:53] <reisio> that distinction is less important than that it's proprietary and awful both
[10:53] <OerHeks> bekks +1
[10:53] <Wisnia78> unix
[10:53] <bekks> reisio: If you can afford it, you want. For the sake of a native ZFS implementation. :)
[10:53] <reisio> native?
[10:53] <reisio> try again
[10:53] <Wisnia78> it sounds commercial
[10:53] <slikts> reisio: I copied all the fonts from ~/.wine to ~/.fonts and ran fc-cache, but it says: /home/slikts/.fonts: skipping, existing cache is valid: 42 fonts, 0 dirs
[10:53] <reisio> it is commercial
[10:53] <Wisnia78> is unix free?
[10:53] <bekks> Wisnia78: No.
[10:54] <reisio> Wisnia78: sometimes
[10:54] <bekks> Wisnia78: That one isnt free. Other derivatives are free.
[10:54] <reisio> that one indeed is not
[10:54] <reisio> little from Oracle is ever free
[10:54] <Rubas> OpenBSD is free?
[10:54] <reisio> it is gratis, yes
[10:54] <bekks> reisio: There are people out there who dont care about free/non-free as long as the proposed system fulfills the requirements.
[10:54] <slikts> reisio: sorry, nvm, I needed to run fc-cache -f
[10:54] <reisio> bekks: he's talking about price anyways
[10:55] <reisio> slikts: gj
[10:55] <TFeldt> if an os is certified by the open group then it can be labeled unix. it adheres to certain standards (not of quality, of interoperability). linux is not. unix doesn't imply anything other than that.
[10:55] <slikts> reisio: do I get a cookie
[10:55] <reisio> TFeldt: yes, or if it's Unix regardless of what the open group says :p
[10:55] <reisio> Unix predates the open group
[10:55] <reisio> slikts: if I but had one :)
[10:55] <slikts> reisio: ok then dogecoins will suffice
[10:55] <TFeldt> aye, it does. but I'm guessing he was referring to more recent versions than ones that predate it.
[10:56] <TFeldt> I'm not a fan of solaris, but to each their own.
[10:56] <slikts> so now I have Consolas, but it looks kind of weird with full hinting compared to Windows
[10:56] <reisio> TFeldt: yes, well, if you arbitrarily limit the scope of things, you can much more frequently be correct :p
[10:57] <reisio> slikts: right, it looks better :)
[10:57] <slikts> reisio: nope
[10:57] <slikts> whatever you can say about windows, it has tight typography
[10:57] <reisio> it really doesn't :p It has the worst of all
[10:57] <reisio> you're just used to it is all
[10:58] <reisio> anyways, you can make GNU/Linux render text like Windows if you really want to
[10:58] <slikts> reisio: apple has the worst, sine the hinting they use is suited for printing, not screens
[10:58] <reisio> but it really is inferior
[10:58] <reisio> Apple has the silliest, but not the worst :)
[10:58] <slikts> reisio: how can I? I thought full hinting is the closest to windows
[10:58] <reisio> it's configured on purpose to be too bold, but it has actual good software behind it
[10:59] <reisio> to get it the closest to Windows, you need it to be as colorful as possible
[10:59] <TFeldt> reisio, he was asking about solaris 10 and 11. I was just noting it because many seem to think that unix is an os in and of itself. it is not, it's just a certificate.
[10:59] <reisio> TFeldt: nope, it's an OS
[10:59] <slikts> reisio: also, it goes both ways, I too can just claim that you're used to linux hinting
[10:59] <reisio> though it's a bit silly to say "Unix" and not mean an OS _family_ at this point
[11:00] <slikts> reisio: for that you should use *nix
[11:00] <reisio> slikts: you could, but you'd be wrong since I used awful OSes constnatly
[11:00] <reisio> slikts: but *nix doesn't match correctly
[11:00] <reisio> and is, y'know, absurd
[11:00] <slikts> reisio: it's l33t
[11:00] <reisio> it's daft :p
[11:00] <slikts> you just don't get it man
[11:00] <reisio> when your say means more to me than Dennis Ritchie's, then I'll call 'Unix' what you think is Unix
[11:01] <bekks> Just for the logs: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Unix_history-simple.svg </ot>
[11:01] <slikts> reisio: also, I've used linux and windows side by side for a long time, and I prefer windows typography
[11:02] <ljunggren> h
[11:02] <reisio> slikts: then you're still too used to Windows :p
[11:02] <slikts> reisio: no you're too used to linux
[11:02] <reisio> you can configure GNU/Linux to render as Windows, though, again, as I've said
[11:02] <reisio> but the reverse is harder
[11:03] <reisio> ljunggren: :)
[11:03] <ljunggren> hi
[11:05] <ljunggren> !whois
[11:06] <TFeldt> reisio, well that's true. I should have said it isn't an os under active development for the last 20 years or so. it was my first contact with mainframes so it'll always hold a fairly special place in my heart. but -today- it's just a certificate and fond memories.
[11:06] <reisio> that's also incorrect, though :)
[11:07] <TFeldt> really? it's still being developed?
[11:07] <reisio> it's true the certification is largely pointless, though
[11:07] <bgardner> !ot
[11:08] <TFeldt> oh hoh, I'll take the hint. sorry about that, just thought it was related to the whole solaris or linux question.
[11:09] <reisio> it was of course, but he probably means to assert that neither are particular on topic
[11:09] <TFeldt> true true
[11:09] <ljunggren> >>#ubuntu-offtopic
[11:10] <reisio> you can take a look at bekks' link for starters, though
[11:10] <reisio> not to mention Plan 9
[11:10] <zeious> any go programmer here?
[11:11] <reisio> zeious: #go-nuts
[11:11] <q0> so i have a custom shortcut
[11:11] <reisio> q0: neat
[11:11] <q0> gnome-terminal -e "poweroff"
[11:11] <q0> but it doesn't work
[11:11] <q0> without sudo
[11:12] <reisio> so use sudo
[11:12] <q0> it's in unity hotkey
[11:12] <reisio> so?
[11:12] <slikts> what's a nice alternative to nautilus that would support the old f3 side-by-side functionality and browsing ssh:// ?
[11:12] <q0> it'll ask for password which is inconvient
[11:12] <q0> any solution ?
[11:13] <reisio> q0: use sudo properly and it won't ask for a password
[11:13] <q0> whats your understanding for "proper" please tell me
[11:13] <slikts> q0: pull the power plug
[11:13] <zeious> how about android development channel?
[11:13] <martinrame> Hi, I'm on 13.10 trying to compile a program that links to lpthread, but I'm getting undefined references to functions of that library. Should I have to install something else? ldconfig -p shows libpthread.so.0 is installed.
[11:13] <reisio> slikts: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Orthodox_file_managers
[11:13] <reisio> zeious: /msg alis list *android*
[11:14] <Guest24796> !acpi
[11:14] <reisio> q0: /etc/sudoers should explain
[11:14] <slikts> reisio: what do you use?
[11:14] <reisio> slikts: I just use a terminal
[11:14] <reisio> but I usually have 'mc' (midnight commander) installed
[11:14] <reisio> that's TUI, though
[11:14] <slikts> reisio: yeah I use mc too
[11:14] <Guest24796> What is the link to the acpi osi grub boot params?
[11:14] <filzilla> Hi Guys , i can't upload my files from client to server , on fillzila on client have error , Response:	550 Permission denied.  , while i ha ve made 777 folder in server , and firewall is off on client , what 's the problem?
[11:15] <TFeldt> martinrame, could you please provide the exact command you're invoking the compiler with
[11:16] <asturel> hey, im using x11vnc but after the comp auto locked it no longer works, it auto closes the session
[11:17] <asturel> http://pastebin.com/sbY0h9sD
[11:18] <ProjectX2> help
[11:18] <ProjectX2> oops w/c
[11:18] <reisio> asturel: ssh in and kill xscreensaver (or whatever)
[11:19] <dw1> q0: http://askubuntu.com/questions/168879/shutdown-from-terminal-without-entering-password ? ?
[11:19] <asturel> start on login-session-start
[11:19] <asturel> script
[11:19] <asturel> x11vnc -xkb -noxrecord -noxfixes -noxdamage -display :0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -forever -bg -o /var/log/x11vnc.log
[11:19] <asturel> end script
[11:19] <asturel> i have this script
[11:19] <asturel> in /etc/init/x11vnc.conf
[11:19] <unopaste> asturel you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[11:20] <Guest24796> What is the string for Win7?
[11:20] <reisio> Guest24796: ?
[11:20] <CyborgCygnus> The string for Windows 7 is format & install ubuntu over it
[11:20] <Guest24796> reisio, For the acpi_osi=""
[11:21] <Guest24796> To report as Win7 to the bios.
[11:22] <Guest24796> Getting the backlight to work on this machine.
[11:22] <Guest24796> The radeon drivers hide the acpi settings.
[11:23] <slikts> is there some tool that would allow easier editing for PS1 colors?
[11:23] <Guest24796> Using uvesa driver at boot shows the backlight power setting but changing it to '1' is not turning it on, so the bios may not get the signals.
[11:24] <Guest24796> Is there something to commit the change after writing 1 to backlight_power?
[11:24] <asturel> i guess i need to use -forever?
[11:25] <jorick> I have a wierd problem with my keyboard and mouse (both clit mouse and touchpad) which stop working intermittently. Usually the problem goes away after a few seconds but sometimes it persists until reboot. USB mouse and KB still work though.
[11:25] <jorick> as I have no clue how to go about debugging this, any help would be appreciated.
[11:25] <Guest24796> jorick, check and see if there are some power saving features interrupting usb
[11:26] <vikash_> this shell scripts is not working? do I know why not it is working , http://paste.ubuntu.com/7193850/
[11:26] <brothersome> jorick: Do you have a toshiba or Lenovo laptop?
[11:26] <red234324> I need to install a simple ftp server for 5 minutes on my machine - xampp does this out of the box - ubuntu lamp does not, which is looking like a big plus for xampp as it takes two minutes that way, pity
[11:26] <Guest24796>  so the bios may not get the signals.
[11:26] <bekks> vikash_: It is missing a script header, like "#!/bin/bash"
[11:26] <jorick> brothersome, yes! a lenovo thinkpad
[11:26] <brontosaurusrex> vikash_, as sudo?
[11:27] <vikash_> bekks: let me modify it
[11:27] <brothersome> A ha jorick, I know the answer wait
[11:27] <Guest24796> Changing the acpi_osi to Win7 is to test and see if the signal to turn on the backlight makes it to the hardware.
[11:27] <brontosaurusrex> red234324, pureftp
[11:27] <melodie> hi
[11:27] <adsc> red234324: vsftpd
[11:27] <brontosaurusrex> red234324, just install and you should be able to use your system username/pass by default without any configuration
[11:27] <Guest24796> What is the link to the explanations of acp_osi grub boot settings particularly the Win7 setting
[11:28] <brothersome> jorick, in the grub in the kernel line place: i8042.nomux=1
[11:28] <melodie> has someone configured openbox in a gnome session, in a 13.04 edition?
[11:28] <vikash_> bekks: I added the #!/bin/bash , still it not working it freez at waiting for headers,
[11:29] <melodie> in a Precise I had done that, it worked, and now when I try to start the gnome/openbox session it does not start the panel
[11:29] <cfhowlett> !saucy | melodie
[11:29] <vikash_> brontosaurusrex:  I running it as root
[11:29] <bekks> vikash_: It isnt freezed. It just waits. Let it run.
[11:29] <jorick> brothersome, okay i will try that
[11:29] <melodie> cfhowlett what about 13.04?
[11:29] <vikash_> bekks:  it is waiting but it is taking time
[11:29] <cfhowlett> melodie end of life = no longer supported
[11:29] <bekks> vikash_: Then wait.
[11:29] <melodie> cfhowlett aha
[11:29] <brontosaurusrex> vikash_, so it stops on wget line?
[11:29] <vikash_> bekks:  okay
[11:29] <melodie> cfhowlett ok. does that mean no one here is going to answer to me?
[11:30] <cfhowlett> melodie assume no as end-of-life = no support.  you might consider upgrading.  :)
[11:30] <red234324> i tried vsftpd and found it to be a pain in the butt, and others too - will give pureftp 5 minutes which is how long it takes using xampp
[11:30] <TFeldt> melodie, I think he just meant that it's unlikely that anyone here has done it recently.
[11:31] <brontosaurusrex> red234324, pure-ftpd should be the name
[11:31] <melodie> TFeldt ok, thanks. What about Gnome/Openbox, does that work normally?
[11:32] <melodie> cfhowlett I'll consider telling the owner of the machine to downgrade : Precise is supported up to 2017, and after Trusty will be out, let's say 3 to 6 months later, it will be the best
[11:33] <melodie> up to then she might want to wait
[11:33] <brothersome> jorick, I got the information from: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=36248
[11:33] <cfhowlett> melodie sounds like a great plan.
[11:34] <TFeldt> melodie, to be quite honest I've never used the combination.  and I haven't used openbox in over a decade.
[11:34] <electron-beam> Hey guys, I'm installing Linux From Scratch using Ubuntu as host
[11:34] <electron-beam> it's fun times
[11:34] <melodie> cfhowlett yes, that might be :)
[11:35] <melodie> TFeldt I had, but in a Precise, that worked well directly
[11:36] <TFeldt> melodie, roger, that's good to hear. the lightest combination I use these days is xfce and xfwm4. it's snappy enough on my oldest boxes. should give openbox another try though.
[11:37] <filsuf> my linux can find the missing Malaysian airline!
[11:37] <melodie> TFeldt I have put up a version with Openbox, you could give it a try
[11:37] <melodie> I have worked on it since 2 years ago
[11:37] <cfhowlett> filsuf not even the slightest bit funny.  if you have a support question, ask.  otherwise, stop.
[11:38] <melodie> the website for the presentation is a bit upside down now, but you can see some pics and the list of default apps
[11:38] <melodie> http://linuxvillage.org/blog/2013/11/15/bento-ubuntu-remix-rc/
[11:39] <melodie> TFeldt and to give it a try it is here: http://phillw.net/isos/bento-ubuntu-remix/
[11:41] <TFeldt> melodie, thanks, that's kind of you. I'll likely just install and use openbox as the wm though. I've got a critical weakness for both xfce and unity, respectively.
[11:42] <[Gentoo]> openbox isnt much snappier than xfce (with no fancy stuff enabled)
[11:42] <[Gentoo]> but uses less ram
[11:42] <red234324> ok thanks for the help guys - am going back to xampp, after a spending a morning with it ubuntu lamp works fine out of the box but xampp does that and sets up the ftp too and i dont have any more time right now to dedicate to it at present - close but no cigar
[11:43] <H1FuelCell> hey guys
[11:43] <bekks> red234324: Setting up ftp is one command. :P
[11:43] <H1FuelCell> I deleted the trusted.gpg and trustdb.gpg files from /etc/apt/ in an attempt to 'reset' aptitude
[11:43] <H1FuelCell> how do I recover from this?
[11:44] <H1FuelCell> apt now complains that even secure.ubuntu.org cannot be validated
[11:44] <dw1> jorick: sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sudo modprobe psmouse; # may fix it
[11:44] <H1FuelCell> W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com precise Release: No keyring installed in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/
[11:45] <dw1> jorick: it revives the trackpad on my netbook when it crashes
[11:45] <melodie> TFeldt it's all setup with openbox and there is nothing much more
[11:45] <brothersome> dw1: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=36248
[11:46] <bugs_bugger> hi there. i actually might be in the wrong channel: i have a bash problem. i'm getting an encoding different from my input when piping a text file through some bash/sh programs. can anybody help me or tell me where to go for that problem?
[11:46] <dw1> brothersome: thx. its pretty rare but a perm fix would be nice
[11:46] <bazhang> bugs_bugger, #bash
[11:46] <bazhang> !gpgerr | H1FuelCell
[11:47] <bugs_bugger> bazhang: ok, thanks
[11:47] <melodie> TFeldt there is also a way to make it even more snappy: remove update-manager, software-center, change lxpanel for tint2 : see the .config/autostart content and the .config/openbox/autostart file, then in the autostart file, choose one of the 2 lines to use feh for the background...
[11:47] <H1FuelCell> ubottu: thanks... I just found something on some forum
[11:47] <H1FuelCell> bazhang: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-keyring
[11:47] <melodie> TFeldt in case you want to come back to me later I am often on #linuxvillage in the evenint (UTC+2)
[11:47] <H1FuelCell> I think that did the trick...
[11:47] <melodie> evening
[11:48] <H1FuelCell> ah, so that alone wasn't enough, because 'extras' is not a part of that package
[11:48] <H1FuelCell> thanks for the command bazhang
[11:48] <melodie> TFeldt it is setup in a way which allows making it richer or more frugal, and has zram-config enabled (not sure if it works well with this kernel though, the current 3.2.0 seems to do it better)
[11:56] <Voyage> hi
[11:56] <[Gentoo]> hi
[11:56] <Voyage> I have a vps remotely. I have ssh access. How can I use that linux server as a proxy for me to browse web?
[11:57] <[Gentoo]> you can make ssh a socks proxy
[11:57] <Voyage> [Gentoo],  hm. hows that?
[11:57] <[Gentoo]> http://wiki.vpslink.com/Instant_SOCKS_Proxy_over_SSH
[11:59] <Voyage> so ssh -p 22 -D 80 USERNAME@VPS_IP_ADDRESS  ?
[11:59] <Voyage> [Gentoo],  ?
[11:59] <[Gentoo]> yes tha -D switch
[12:00] <Voyage> are the ports that I wrote correct for http?
[12:00] <[Gentoo]> port 80 is http
[12:00] <[Gentoo]> so yes
[12:00] <[Gentoo]> -p 22 shouldnt be needed as its default
[12:00] <Voyage> hm
[12:01] <Voyage> thx
[12:01] <[Gentoo]> normally -p is for odd port like 2222
[12:01] <Voyage> !
[12:01] <[Gentoo]> or whatever
[12:01] <brothersome> Voyage, you can also use tor browser for a proxy
[12:02] <[Gentoo]> tor isnt a direct connection though so its slower
[12:02] <brothersome> Gentoo, right and so is a proxy not a direct connection though
[12:02] <TFeldt> Voyage, note that the -D is the local port. you don't have to worry about it for remote ports on webservers if that's what you meant with "correct for http".
[12:02] <[Gentoo]> brothersome: you know what i mean
[12:03] <[Gentoo]> connecting to an ip you have good ping to will be quicker
[12:03] <brothersome> Voyage: You can also use putty for making tunnels to use that proxy
[12:03] <enbergj> how do I configure ubuntu server 12.04 so *all* USB devices are owned by the plugdev group? .. currently if I e.g. plug in a random Android phone, the device gets owned by root:root and I'm NOT going to create custom udev rules for all the phones I might plug in
[12:04] <levo> some websites are blocked by my Isp, so i have to use a socks proxy to surf them (ssh connection involved).   i've set up a local web server on my laptop for personal use. and if i write some php code that tries to connect to those blocked websites, it can't because in this case there's no proxy involved (because i don't know how to figure it out) . what i want is my local create php could use that socks proxy too. or if it's off-topic here instruct me to t
[12:04] <levo> he
[12:04] <levo> to the channel
[12:05] <dw1> levo: ##php
[12:06] <brothersome> levo: Look at putty
[12:06] <slikts> is there a simple way to replace gedit with something else as the default editor?
[12:06] <enbergj> levo: just get a VPN
[12:07] <slikts> gedit is such trash, not even ctrl+tab works by default
[12:07] <enbergj> levo: google for cheap vpn provider, there's a bunch that would fix your internet .. purevpn, privateinternetaccess, etc.
[12:08] <levo> enbergi: my socks proxy works fine. i only need /var/www/index.html use that proxy too.
[12:08] <[Gentoo]> slikts: what does ctrl+tab do
[12:08] <[Gentoo]> whats it meant to do
[12:08] <slikts> [Gentoo]: what do you think?
[12:08] <[Gentoo]> no idea :s
[12:08] <slikts> [Gentoo]: really?
[12:08] <slikts> [Gentoo]: have you ever used a web browser?
[12:09] <slikts> or are you RMS who wgets and reads raw html
[12:09] <[Gentoo]> eh i thought you was talking about gedit
[12:09] <Voyage> brothersome,  thx
[12:09] <slikts> [Gentoo]: I was
[12:09] <[Gentoo]> ah i see what you mean
[12:10] <[Gentoo]> well there must be some other shortcut for switching tabs in gedit
[12:10] <Voyage> TFeldt,  oh. thats local port. ? so it should be set to 80? as I browse by port 80 in my local machine?
[12:10] <Voyage> and also set the port in my firefox browser socket proxy settings?
[12:10] <[Gentoo]> web browsers arent like the standard for keyboard shortcuts
[12:11] <TFeldt> Voyage, no, you can set it to whatever you want. just make sure when you configure your socks setup to use the same local port. it'll be localhost:80 if you use 80.
[12:11] <[Gentoo]> Voyage: set the bind address with -D and use that in FF
[12:11] <enbergj> [Gentoo]: they sort of are, but 99.99% of the software available uses the same shortcuts for switching between tabs etc.
[12:11] <slikts> [Gentoo]: web browsers are a likely candidate for being *the* most widely used software
[12:11] <slikts> [Gentoo]: so what you're saying is exceedingly stupid
[12:11] <Voyage> ok
[12:12] <Voyage> thx
[12:15] <slikts> man, using dead key accents in ubuntu is a drag, I never have any problems with it in windows, but in ubuntu I keep needing to go back and add them
[12:15] <slikts> it seems sometimes the diacritics are missed because I type pretty fast
[12:16] <slikts> I need to force myself to wait a bit after pressing the dead key
[12:16] <slikts> it very much sucks
[12:16] <Garret> Mornin
[12:16] <brothersome> slikts, You have to set your favourite at the tab with the keyboard-settings
[12:17] <brothersome> at the top
[12:17] <slikts> brothersome: you mean text editor?
[12:17] <brothersome> No, I mean the dead-keys
[12:17] <Garret> anyone know how to verify a disk has been zeroed? my googlefu comes up with people wanting to benchmark drives using dd
[12:17] <Garret> Im having severe partition issues in windows with my 4tb drive
[12:17] <slikts> brothersome: I have no idea what you're saying then, what favorite?
[12:18] <legion> good morning all
[12:18] <slikts> brothersome: I have the dead key I want, it's just sometimes not registered when typing fast
[12:18] <brothersome> slikts: In the top of your screen is a keyboard. Underneath it are options.
[12:18] <slikts> brothersome: actually there isn't a keyboard because I only have one layout
[12:18] <[Gentoo]> slikts: does it do it on all the programs you type in?
[12:18] <slikts> [Gentoo]: at least in pidgin
[12:19] <slikts> [Gentoo]: I guess it could be a gtk problem
[12:19] <legion> sid3e note,...Ive seen pidgen laggy at times
[12:19] <brothersome> Ok slikts: I do use Codelite and geany as my editors
[12:19] <[Gentoo]> i was thinking maybe a display comp problem (creating some sort of input lag)
[12:19] <[Gentoo]> like vsync
[12:20] <slikts> [Gentoo]: well, there is something, and it's annoying, and I'd like to blame gtk because gnome developers have proven themselves to be morons so often
[12:21] <daum> hey guys - i'm trying to make my /etc/resolv.conf immutable due to vpnc trying to update it when i get on VPNs, however $ sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
[12:21] <daum> chattr: Operation not supported while reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf happens any ideas?
[12:21] <bekks> daum: That will break vpn functionality.
[12:22] <daum> bekks, only their internal DNS names which i have in my hosts file
[12:22] <bekks> Then why do you want resolv.conf to be immutable?
[12:22] <daum> bekks, issue is i jump on VPN, once the connection times out or whatever, my DNS just silently fails
[12:22] <daum> since it can't connect to the internal DNS servers
[12:22] <Garret> anyone know of a good way to verify a drive is 0 after a large zeroing operation?
[12:23] <daum> so since i dont' really use any of the internal DNS, it is much more of an problem than a help
[12:23] <bekks> daum: Then you should contact your VPN administrator.
[12:23] <Garret> stupid backup GPT table was in the middle of the disk making windows loose its marbles
[12:23] <daum> bekks, not their issue?  if the VPN connection is closed, and then my resolv.conf isn't auto-updated back to what it was, not the fault of their VPN?
[12:24] <ikonia> resolv.conf always looks at 127.0.0.1
[12:24] <Garret> it was telling me my 3.64tb drive was actually 1.6tb, then it told me it was two disk 0's at 1.6tb each.... then it went back to just one
[12:24] <ikonia> so it should not be updated in ubuntu
[12:24] <[Gentoo]> Garret: program called od
[12:24] <ikonia> dnsmasq does the dns updates real time
[12:24] <ikonia> so a.) nothing should be changing resolv.conf b.) you should not be setting any permission changes on it
[12:25] <daum> ikonia, when i connect to the vpn it gets overwritten with nameserver 10.20.100.... all their internal DNS
[12:25] <[Gentoo]> Garret: od /dev/disk
[12:25] <ikonia> daum: it should not
[12:25] <daum> is there some flag or something i need to set in vpn to have it update it elsewhere?
[12:25] <daum> rather, vpnc
[12:25] <ikonia> daum: it should still be 127.00.1 and dnsmasq controls it
[12:26] <Garret> Gentoo: Thanks many, Stallman smiles this day
[12:27] <daum> ikonia, understood it should be, but it doesn't appear to be happening?  for some reason vpnc is updating resolv.conf
[12:27] <daum> ikonia, and dnsmsq does appear to be properly running
[12:27] <bgardner> daum: I turn off DNS updates for vpnc, would that method work for you?
[12:27] <ikonia> daum: ok, so that's what you need to fix
[12:27] <daum> bgardner, yup!
[12:27] <daum> ikonia, correct- just not sure how to do that
[12:27] <ikonia> daum: rather than trying to screw your resolv.conf file - fix dnsmasq setup
[12:27] <Garret> Gentoo: 6 hour ETA! worth it
[12:28] <bgardner> daum: In your .conf for the connection, add 'DNSUpdate no'
[12:28] <[Gentoo]> Garret: if the dd command finished, just check some random bits if they are all 0 id say its all 0
[12:28] <[Gentoo]> Garret: why did you need to 0 the disk anyway
[12:28] <jeremy__> Goodmorning!
[12:28] <daum> bgardner, awesome seems to be working, thanks!
[12:29] <bgardner> daum: Happy to help!
[12:30] <Garret> Gentoo: its been 2 weeks since this drive operated properly. I installed windows to it in MBR because my motherboard didnt have GPT. formatted it when the computer it was in exploded and now trying to use it as an archive drive
[12:30] <Garret> Gentoo: tried gparted and several windows utilities, including WD lifeguard diagnostics
[12:30] <Garret> the drive was limited to 1.6tb because of the whole MBR thing.
[12:31] <[Gentoo]> Garret: ah yes
[12:31] <[Gentoo]> Garret: you dont need to zero the disk
[12:31] <[Gentoo]> just make a gpt partition table
[12:31] <Garret> I guess there was a backup partition table in the middle of the drive and it was confising everything
[12:31] <[Gentoo]> you can even convert mbr to gpt
[12:31] <Garret> even WD lifeguard couldnt zero the other half of the disk
[12:31] <[Gentoo]> gdisk /dev/disk then press w
[12:31] <Garret> I tried
[12:31] <Garret> it didnt return the other half of the drive as unallocated, it stayed at 1.6tb
[12:32] <Garret> its a 4tb drive, WD4003FZEX
[12:32] <Garret> I was zeroing it in preperation for an RMA, my last resort.
[12:32] <[Gentoo]> ah ok
[12:33] <Garret> Ill only trust the drive again once I confirm there isnt a single bit remaining un-zeroed
[12:35] <bekks> Is your mainboard capable of drives that large?
[12:45] <bekks> Garret: The MBR limit is at 2TB, not at 1.6TB
[12:48] <red_> any app-name for run sql commands
[12:49] <bekks> red_: ?
[12:49] <thoonai> hey, how do I give another system user the permission to write on my X window?
[12:49] <bekks> thoonai: Using xhost
[12:50] <red_> bekks:like oracle 10 g application for database ..
[12:50] <red_> bekks:In Linux what i download ?
[12:52] <OerHeks> red_, what do you mean by "app-name for run sql commands"?
[12:53] <thoonai> bekks: sec. thx
[12:54] <red_> Oerheks: An application where I can run sql cmds like in windows there is Oracle Database Express Edition 11g.
[12:55] <thoonai> bekks: yeah I'm doing that, but xhost +Local is less restrictive as wished, only <user> should be allowed :/
[12:55] <OerHeks> red_, we do not support Oracle Database Express Edition 11g.
[12:56] <red_> Oerheks: Oh I need an application like that not Oracle
[12:56] <OerHeks> red join #oracle for support
[12:56] <red_> Oerheks: I am finding another apps which work on linux.
[12:58] <red_> Oerheks: Ignore
[12:58] <didrik> hello is anyone there? I need some help with generating a core cump after a seg fault while programming c++
[12:58] <didrik> 1st time here so I dont know how this works
[12:58] <red_> didrik:What's problem ?
[12:58] <oyvby01> hi guys, Ubuntu3d doesnt appear to work anymore, not I have to run unity --reset every time I log in. Any ideas on how to fix this ?
[13:00] <didrik> well I'm writing a program in C++ and am getting a seg fault. Would like to dump core and debug using gdb but I dont seem to be able to get core. I only get "sementation fault" in console not "segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[13:00] <jnhghy> I don't want to use ubuntu with unity, I'd like to use it with gnome, in the past(v 12.04) I installed ubuntu and then installed gnome desktop, now i did some search and found this: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04/beta-1/ so what is ubuntu-gnome? is a version of ubuntu that is released with gnome as desktop? and this is done by ubuntu? is it recommended I switch to this?
[13:00] <didrik> i have set ulimit -c unlimited and all that
[13:00] <didrik> but after that I knowledge is limited
[13:00] <didrik> so where should I look dto enable core dumps?=
[13:00] <cfhowlett> !flavors|jnhghy
[13:01] <cfhowlett> jnhghy gnome-ubuntu remix is an official and supported ubuntu distro.  if you prefer the gnome experience, I'd say "go for it!"
[13:01] <jnhghy> cfhowlett: so ubuntu-gnome is a flavor of ubuntu as kubuntu and xubuntu ... now I understand ... thanks ...
[13:01] <cfhowlett> jnhghy best of luck
[13:10] <slyder> hi
[13:10] <slyder> who help me with kubuntu 13.10 and Geforce GTX 750 Ti?
[13:12] <Pricey> slyder: What's the problem?
[13:14] <slikts> is there an easy way to define custom regions for windows with unity?
[13:14] <slikts> I want to snap windows to a specific custom region on my screen
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> slikts: in ccsm there is the grid addon, you can set shortcuts and such to set windows to fill certain screen regions
[13:15] <slikts> ActionParsnip: would it work in 13.10 with default unity?
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> slikts: i'd say so
[13:16] <slikts> ActionParsnip: I installed ccsm and saw that none of the plugins were used, including unity
[13:16] <slikts> and then uninstalled ccsm ><
[13:16] <slyder> Pricey, i mounted recently the GTX 750 Ti on my kubuntu 13.10 but after login don't go... i tried nouveau drivers... nvidia 334.19 334.21 and official's driver by nvidia website but it's the same... lock on login screen.. black screen and return on login screen
[13:17] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|slyder
[13:18] <slyder> cfhowlett, i have! : splash and nomodeset
[13:18] <slyder> i have quet splash nomodeset
[13:19] <slyder> can i try without nomodeset?
[13:19] <thoonai> bekks: xhost +Local: works, but xhost +Local:<user> does not work?
[13:19] <vlad_starkov> QUESTION: What do you prefer to use for creating new VMs in KVM: virt-install OR vmbuilder?
[13:20] <Guest69942> hi all
[13:21] <Danato> hi
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | Guest69942
[13:21] <slyder> cfhowlett, are you here?
[13:22] <cfhowlett> slyder I am.  I'm silent as I can't contribute any further to your solution.  sorry.  but keep asking in this channel at reasonable intervals
[13:22] <LordDeath> does iotop need root privileges?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> LordDeath: loet me check
[13:25] <bekks> thoonai: No, local:user is not a valid name, according to "man xhost"
[13:26] <YaMoonSun> Linux Mint runs all the Ubuntu software, right? Does that mean I can customize it to look like a mac?
[13:26] <slikts> is there a way to split a screen into 2 virtual screens?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> LordDeath: as far as I can see, it does. Could be fun to run it without just to see the difference
[13:26] <cfhowlett> !mint|YaMoonSun
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> YaMoonSun: mint isnt supported herfe
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> *here
[13:26] <YaMoonSun> Will do
[13:26]  * YaMoonSun feels embarrassed.
[13:27] <slyder> cfhowlett, my kubuntu don't go with nomodeset and without nomodeset...
[13:27] <thoonai> bekks: thank you, I didnt read properly
[13:28] <cfhowlett> slyder as I stated, I can't help any further.  ask your question with the necessary details and, hopefully, someone wills see and know
[13:29] <thoonai> bekks: though the user exists, I get bad hostname if I want to add my user?
[13:29] <Voyage> TFeld [gt, my browser says The proxy server is refusing connections
[13:29] <bekks> thoonai: Adding the user is not supported.
[13:30] <slyder> wow... -.-
[13:30] <Voyage> I am doing  ssh -D 8080 USERNAME@VPS_IP_ADDRESS  to make a proxy using my VPS. but I get "The proxy server is refusing connections" in browser. any guess why?
[13:30] <thoonai> bekks: it works with xhost +local:<user>
[13:31] <thoonai> bekks: thanks
[13:31] <thoonai> bekks: ;)
[13:31] <brothersome> Voyage: Did you try it with putty?
[13:31] <Voyage> I have linux brothersome
[13:32] <brothersome> Putty is in the repository of Ubuntu
[13:32] <Voyage> hm
[13:32] <ikonia> you don't need putty
[13:32] <brothersome> Putty can make things easier
[13:32] <ikonia> no it can't
[13:32] <ikonia> the standard open ssh client is just as functional and has no X11 requirements
[13:32] <Ben64> you know, ubuntu comes with a great ssh client, its called "ssh"
[13:33] <Voyage> ikonia,  how to resolve
[13:33] <Voyage> with pure ssh
[13:33] <ikonia> Voyage: I have no idea, as I didn't follow the question beyond you trying to setup a tunnel
[13:33] <Voyage> I am doing  ssh -D 8080 USERNAME@VPS_IP_ADDRESS  to make a proxy using my VPS. but I get "The proxy server is refusing connections" in browser. any guess why?
[13:33] <ikonia> if you explain what you've done clearly and ask the channel, the channel can response
[13:33] <Voyage> ikonia,  thats the question ^
[13:34] <ikonia> Voyage: you're just binding a connection to port 8080
[13:34] <robotti^> dont use putty in linux, it is crap.
[13:35] <didrik> can anyone help me with generating a core dump to my segmentation fault? Im not able to since disabling apport.
[13:35] <didrik> dont know where to go from there
[13:36] <Voyage> ikonia,  yes. and I have put socket 5 proxy in firefox for with ip of server and port 8080\
[13:36] <ikonia> Voyage: it's going nowhere there ? and that's not a socks proxy
[13:38] <Ben64> ikonia: ssh -D does in fact create a socks proxy
[13:38] <ikonia> it's not actually a socks proxy though is it ?
[13:38] <brothersome> Voyage, I would Google for "putty firefox proxy" and do the things as described
[13:38] <ikonia> it's just a tunnel of ports
[13:38] <Voyage> its in firefox>prefs> connection settings> manual proxy> socks host
[13:38] <ikonia> or is the connection in essense classed as a "socket" ?
[13:39] <Ben64> browsing to whatismyipaddress.com from here, connected through my server via the ssh proxy, gives me my server's ip address
[13:39] <ikonia> Ben64: yes, because it's tunneling your traffic
[13:39] <ikonia> socket proxys are different though
[13:39] <ikonia> eg: socks5 supports authneitcation, and ssh tunnel can't do that
[13:40] <Ben64> eh, well it works like a socks proxy as far as the browser is concerned
[13:40] <ikonia> Ben64: I think that's probably just legacy wording being exploited
[13:40] <ikonia> the browser only really cares about a connection from a->b
[13:44] <Voyage> why the message could appear. i mean what reasons can be there for "The proxy server is refusing connections Firefox is configured to use a proxy server that is refusing connections."
[13:44] <slikts> ActionParsnip: cssm doesn't let you set any custom sizes for grid
[13:47] <pawan> hey guys
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> slikts: thats all I know dude
[13:48] <pawan> i am having problem running eclipse
[13:48] <pawan> can anyone help me out
[13:48] <pawan> ?
[13:48] <slikts> pawan: just use notepad
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> pawan: try telling us _what_ the problem is....
[13:48] <didrik> any one want to help me generate a core dump for treating a seg fault?
[13:48] <pawan> im using eclipse for java scripting and it does not have a main method
[13:49] <pawan> it gives me error saying define the main method
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> pawan: i'd ask in an eclipse or coding channel
[13:49] <pawan> eclipse
[13:50] <pawan> im testing web page
[13:51] <cfhowlett> pawan ask in eclipse support - not an ubuntu problem
[13:53] <cfhowlett> !eclipse
[13:53] <CooLBALL1> a guy in -offtopic said there are major bugs in 14.04
[13:53] <cfhowlett> CooLBALL1 until release, support for 14.04 is in #ubuntu+1
[13:57] <felixmc> Newb question!  Can someone clarify for me what you cant do with ubunut desktop that you can with server?  Unless I'm mistaken you can add LAMP to desktop?  Reason I ask is that I now need to setup a deidcated machine to run OSSEC and I've only used Ubuntu desktop...is there a significant difference...should i just go for server?
[13:57] <cfhowlett> felixmc you can add server functions to desktop ubuntu.
[13:58] <felixmc> cool, thanks
[13:58] <geirha> felixmc: It's the same OS, just different packages pre-installed. You can convert between one or the other by removing and installing the right set of packages
[13:58] <Pici> felixmc: Ubuntu server does not ship with a GUI, as that overhead is not desirable for something dedicated to providing a service.
[13:58] <felixmc> that makes sense
[13:58] <geirha> (Not that you'd ever do that, but in theory you can)
[13:59] <felixmc> ah ha...overhead shouldn't be an issue here....and GUI for a novice like me is desirable!
[13:59] <felixmc> thanks guys
[13:59] <geirha> felixmc: then I'd go with a Desktop install
[14:00] <felixmc> excellent...I thought I was being remarkably dense...turns out just a little but confused!  cheers
[14:01] <cfhowlett> !server|felixmc so you know ...
[14:02] <davividal> someone using phpenv? I can't get PHP 5.3.18 to compile
[14:03] <felixmc> Thanks again
[14:03] <cfhowlett> felixmc best of luck
[14:05] <Voyage> ikonia,  it worked with ssh -nNTvxD 8080 user@vp
[14:06] <ikonia> I'd have to look what all those flags do
[14:16] <davividal> I'm getting zend_language_parser.y:1236:21: error: ‘struct _zend_compiler_globals’ has no member named ‘parse_error’ make: *** [Zend/zend_language_parser.lo] Error 1 when trying to compile 5.3.18. What should I do?
[14:16] <Suppa|Werk> hi ubunters
[14:16] <TeraJL> I've installed ulatency and ulatencyd, and everything was working fine, until today it did not boot... on recovery mode I've Uninstalled and now it does not freezes.. but I have no drivers working... no wireless, no TouchPad no Nvidia and no Bluetooth, what can it be? :/
[14:16] <Suppa|Werk> how can i make a ubuntu with unity suck less?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> TeraJL: test ram using memtest86+ from grub
[14:17] <cfhowlett> !nounity|Suppa|Werk
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> Suppa|Werk: use Unity 2D in Precie :)
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> Precise*
[14:18] <Suppa|Werk> nice, thanks ubottu ActionParsnip
[14:18] <brontosaurusrex> Suppa|Werk, i heard there is gnome respin, an official one
[14:18] <bazil> hello!
[14:19] <brothersome> Suppa|werk, see that video: Why linux sucks (both videos) and enjoy
[14:19] <bazil> what is line command to see the ppa list on ubuntu ?
[14:19] <cfhowlett> bazil ask your ubuntu question
[14:20] <brothersome> bazil, I used: dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall > ~/Desktop/packages
[14:20] <ekle86> hi, how can i make a variable chdir in an upstart-script ?
[14:21] <pimpim> grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[14:21] <bazil> brothersome, nice one ;)
[14:21] <TeraJL> ActionParsnip I don't think it has anything to do with that (I'm running the test anyway) because some people report that those packages may break the system... the first boot I did it was fine but freezes for a second or two, the second one was withou drivers already and freezes after 3 or 4 seconds... after I Uninstalled those packages it did not freeze anymore but no drivers still, (I think those packages messes with the kernel but not su
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> TeraJL: its worth testing jut to rule it out as a cause
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> TeraJL: could try booting an older kernel
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> pimpim: what are you grepping for there?
[14:28] <Guest83431> who have time
[14:29] <jmadero> anyone else here hit a snag with recent updates + pidgin?
[14:29] <jmadero> pidgin is 100% broken for me in Unity, works fine in Cinnamon
[14:30] <Guest83431> a[5] is array  ,why &a[2] is a address ,as i know [] is priority
[14:33] <Guest83431> who can give me a hand
[14:34] <sipior> Guest83431: try asking in ##C
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> jmadero: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[14:36] <danieru> hi! I'm trying to report a bug from a daily build of Trusty Ubuntu server, but when I attempt to use 'ubuntu-bug' it tells me 'This is not an official Ubuntu package..' What is the proper way to report bugs for Alpha/Beta releases of Trusty?
[14:37] <Guest83431> the version of the ubuntu
[14:37] <Guest83431> amazing
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> danieru: #ubuntu+1 for all Trusty support til release day
[14:37] <danieru> ActionParsnip: Ah, different irc channel? ok, I'll go there, thanks!
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> danieru: yes, you are using pre-release which is offtopic here
[14:38] <danieru> ok, thanks!
[14:39] <jmadero> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[14:40] <jmadero> ActionParsnip: when I run pidgin I get this *** Error in `pidgin': malloc(): memory corruption: 0x00007f6c836c8330 ***
[14:40] <jmadero> on fresh install I do not - only after updates
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> jmadero: tried renaming your pidgin config folder, then rerunning the app?
[14:42] <jmadero> ActionParsnip: I tried with a fresh profile even (a test profile)
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> !info pidgin saucy
[14:43] <jmadero> ActionParsnip: what do you want from that?
[14:43] <jmadero> just comes up with what looks like man page
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> jmadero: try:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pidgin-developers/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install pidgin
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> jmadero: tells me the version, the PPA there has a slightly newer version, may help
[14:44] <jmadero> ActionParsnip: already tried that :-/
[14:44] <jmadero> ActionParsnip: same problem in Gnome btw
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> jmadero: unity runs on top of gnome
[14:46] <jmadero> oh - that makes more sense
[14:46] <UrNxT> This may sound crazy, but I have a question. Anyone alive this morning to possibly give me an answer?
[14:46] <jmadero> UrNxT: just ask your ?
[14:47] <UrNxT> I have a system requiring Ubuntu 12.04 be reset/reinstalled and set up as a new user experience type deal.
[14:48] <UrNxT> Problem is every time I attempt to do so.. It makes me continue the install... I can't stop it at the new user point.
[14:48] <UrNxT> Is there a way to go through the install then revert back to new user experience?
[14:49] <ekle86> hi, how can i make a dynamic chdir in an upstart-script ? chdir $variable is not working
[14:50] <davividal> I'm getting zend_language_parser.y:1236:21: error: ‘struct _zend_compiler_globals’ has no member named ‘parse_error’ make: *** [Zend/zend_language_parser.lo] Error 1 when trying to compile 5.3.18. What should I do?
[14:50] <bekks> ekle86: What are you actually trying to do?
[14:51] <davividal> when I'm trying to compile PHP 5.3.18, I mean
[14:51] <jmadero> ActionParsnip: I also can't open language & support
[14:57] <ekle86> im starting a service with start abc dir=/some/place
[14:57] <ekle86> and want the upstart script to chdir to $dir
[14:57] <ekle86> but whenever i write a variable behind the "chdir" the scripts failes
[14:59] <brothersome> ekle86, chdir "%var"    is it the double quotes?
[14:59] <khem_> How do I change WLAN standard from 802.11g to 802.11n in Ubuntu?
[15:00] <bekks> khem_: what do you expect to happen then?
[15:00] <khem_> bekks: increased speed
[15:01] <bekks> khem_: Then just cocnfigure your 802.11n connection as usual.
[15:01] <bekks> *configure
[15:01] <ekle86> chdir "%var"  => start: Job failed to start
[15:01] <bekks> ekle86: In linux, it is $var, not %var
[15:01] <ekle86> both not working
[15:02] <bekks> ekle86: Then provide more information, like the actual content of $var
[15:02] <ekle86> a folder
[15:02] <bekks> ekle86: Please provide the _actual_ content of $var
[15:03] <ekle86> /var/apps/server/current
[15:03] <ekle86> just a folder
[15:03] <ekle86> if i hardcode it in it works
[15:03] <bekks> Can you show the the full code that fails in a pastebin?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> khem_: nopt all wifi adapters do n speed, and not all adapters than can do n speed do n speed under linux
[15:05] <ekle86> here: http://pastebin.com/pv5pY71D
[15:05] <bekks> ekle86: So where do you define the content of $app ?
[15:06] <ekle86> in the commad line: start -v puma "app=`cat /etc/puma.conf`"
[15:06] <ekle86> in /etc/puma.conf is just the path /var/apps/server/current
[15:07] <bekks> ekle86: that will never work, since your "app=..." is not passed to the script like that.
[15:08] <bekks> ekle86: you have to define $app in your script OR as an environment variable for using it like that in your script.
[15:08] <khem_> ActionParsnip: ahh gotcha
[15:08] <khem_> thanks for the help
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> khem_: how fast is your broadband?
[15:09] <khem_> ActionParsnip: not too fast. 10Mbps or so, but I do run a internal network
[15:10] <ekle86> but the variable is there in the bash script. i got en entry in the syslog: Starting server: /var/apps/current/current
[15:10] <bekks> khem_: how fast is your internal network?
[15:10] <khem_> bekks: apx. 1gbps
[15:10] <ekle86> why does the bash-part and the instance has access to the variable but chdir not ?
[15:14] <anas989> Anas Aldrees
[15:17] <bekks> ekle86: put an "echo $app" just before the chdir line.
[15:20] <WilliamDotAT> I run 2 AMD GPUs, a 7950 and a 6870 in a 3+3 monitor configuration - Anyone any idea if that works out of the box?
[15:21] <dcope> is there any sort of bandiwidth throttling enabled by default on ubuntu?
[15:22] <bekks> WilliamDotAT: If you are already running it - you do know wether it ran OOTB or not, dont you? ;)
[15:22] <dcope> i have a dedicated machine with a 2 Gbps link but everything slows down right around 1 Gbps of bandwidth
[15:23] <bekks> dcope: there is no bandwidth throttling activated. Which bonding mode do you use?
[15:24] <dcope> bekks: one isn't set on the bond interface
[15:24] <bekks> dcope: How many interfaces do you have then? One or two?
[15:25] <dcope> bekks: http://pastie.org/private/lucrmc9cknoqjf43lzq3w
[15:25] <dcope> bekks: i have two interfaces and one bond
[15:25] <bekks> dcope: And you did not define any bonding mode, so you will not have a link aggregation.
[15:26] <dcope> bekks: but there's 2 1 Gbps interfaces. i do see bandwidth exceeding 1 Gbps so there has to be some aggregation, right?
[15:27] <bekks> dcope: Nope. Just read up about the different bonding modes.
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> WilliamDotAT: you'll need the proprietary driver more than likely but I dont buy AMD GPUs
[15:27] <dcope> bekks: i will... but how is that possible then?
[15:27] <ekle86> @bekks: echo is not allowed as upstart command. but if i put it in the bash part, it outputs the correct path
[15:27] <vlt> Hello. I’m trying to format an USB drive. I’m on 13.10, choose “Format…” -> FAT and click OK. But nothing happens. How to find the cause for this?
[15:27] <craigbass1976> How do I set the default umask for mounted thumb drives?  they're 700 now, and I want at least 750.
[15:28] <bekks> dcope: Just read up about the different bonding modes, to get to know how they work, and how it is possible to exceed 1Gbps when summing up the traffic of each interface.
[15:29] <brothersome> vlt: Is it a regular USB drive or from a company?
[15:30] <vlt> brothersome: What?
[15:30] <brothersome> vlt, some companies are giving USB sticks with merchandizing
[15:31] <Fjorgynn> aha Ubuntu One is shut down
[15:31] <brothersome> vlt, The first part is fixed and cannot be formatted
[15:32] <vlt> brothersome: No, no … I partitioned it and created two ext file systems a while ago using CLI only. Now I try to reformat one of them to FAT using GUI.
[15:33] <brothersome> vlt: do you use gparted?
[15:34] <vlt> brothersome: No. I just right clicked in the icon bar on the left. Like my grandmother would do it.
[15:35] <brothersome> vlt: Did you unmount that?
[15:35] <vlt> brothersome: No. If I do that it gets completely removed from /dev. For some weird reasons.
[15:36] <brothersome> vlt: Try it with gparted
[15:37] <vlt> brothersome: What’s the problem with the way I tried it? What would you tell my grandmother?
[15:39] <joshua__> can some one help me with a problem
[15:39] <joshua__> or do i need a different channel
[15:40] <bekks> joshua__: That depends on your ubuntu support issue.
[15:40] <brothersome> Tell us Joshua__
[15:40] <Pici> joshua__: Since you haven't stated your problem, we have no  way of knowing.
[15:40] <jpjacobs> maybe a long shot, but does anyone have a Verbatim passport sized 1TB disk? More specifically the one containing a ST1000LM 024 HN-M101M ?
[15:40] <joshua__> i am tryint to dualboot win and ubuntu
[15:40] <joshua__> but i get this thing about cant find live medium
[15:41] <randomnomad> any one good with audio issues in here
[15:41] <bekks> jpjacobs: Whats the issue with that?
[15:41] <jpjacobs> My filesystem is messed up big time, and I would like to know how they come formated (where the partition starts actually)
[15:41] <bekks> joshua__: you get that when doing what exactly?
[15:41] <bekks> jpjacobs: Just wipe their preinstalled crap and use the entire disk.
[15:42] <joshua__> tryint to install ubuntu from a live dvd
[15:42] <jpjacobs> bekks: I've been messing with testdisk, and chkdsk before.
[15:42] <randomnomad> i cant get my audio to passthrough the hdmi
[15:42] <Bucky21659> because AMD
[15:42] <bekks> jpjacobs: So create a new partition, and it is done.
[15:42] <jpjacobs> bekks: sure. But I do need my data which is on there first ;)
[15:42] <bekks> jpjacobs: Ah :D
[15:42] <jpjacobs> ideally including the filenames
[15:42] <bekks> jpjacobs: Then create a complete image of the disk first, and operate on the image only.
[15:43] <jpjacobs> well ... that's sort of where it went wrong due to no space, disk being 1000 km away etc etc
[15:43] <bekks> jpjacobs: then you should wait until the disk is at your hands AND you have enough free space.
[15:43] <randomnomad> any help would be great
[15:44] <Bucky21659> ranomnomad: what card do you have?
[15:44] <randomnomad> mcp79
[15:44] <jpjacobs> I am confident the disk is physically ok, it's just the partitioning and filesystem that have been messed up
[15:44] <randomnomad> nvidia
[15:44] <Bucky21659> mcp?
[15:44] <randomnomad> mpc
[15:44] <randomnomad> sorry
[15:44] <Bucky21659> nvidia.... I need some numbers mane
[15:44] <jpjacobs> bekks: I know. Well I thought testdisk would make a good guess . it turned out not so
[15:45] <joshua__> i guess i need a different channel
[15:45] <k1l> !away | dean|away
[15:45] <bekks> jpjacobs: testdisk actually is the best way to recover partitions.
[15:45] <randomnomad> its bulit in to the borad how would i pull these number you need
[15:45] <randomnomad> aplay -l list it as card 0 device 3 hda nvidia
[15:45] <bekks> joshua__: did you check the md5sums of the iso you downloaded and of the dvd you burned?
[15:46] <jpjacobs> bekks: situation now is that when I look through the disk with hexedit, there are like 9 FAT32 superblocks.
[15:46] <Bucky21659> randomnomad do you have drivers installed?
[15:46] <joshua__> no
[15:46] <k1l> !details | joshua__
[15:46] <randomnomad> yes
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> randomnomad: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[15:46] <chichov_> is anybody aware of issues with LVM group creation during the installation of xubuntu with encryption?is anybody aware of issues with LVM group creation during the installation of xubuntu with encryption?
[15:46] <bekks> jpjacobs: there always were, since even fat32 has backup super blocks ;)
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> joshua__: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[15:47] <randomnomad> ActionParsnip http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=581093d8607eab4d5aace6ee8fc1c07ede44862a
[15:47] <EliasRydberg> The ubuntu guide referred me to here if I wanted help. Is there someone here that can help me set up a dual boot with Windows 7? I'm having some troubles and I'm new to Linux.
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> joshua__: did you burn the ISO to the DVD as slowly as possible
[15:48] <joshua__> whats the best way to download and iso
[15:48] <randomnomad> mcp7a
[15:48] <bekks> EliasRydberg: Then you have to tell us the troubles you are having.
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> joshua__: there is no  best way, as long as the data arrives ok it is fine
[15:48] <compdoc> http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/02/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/
[15:48] <Suppa|Werk> where da chats
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> joshua__: again, did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[15:48] <k1l> compdoc: you know we have an other channel for chatter :/
[15:49] <joshua__> how do i check it
[15:49] <EliasRydberg> The problem is that in the dual boot right now, there is a option called Ubuntu, which I want, and one called Windows 8, which I had installed around half a year ago. When I try to boot "Windows 8" it just comes back to the boot selection menu.
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> randomnomad: try removing the 'model=6stack-dig' you added in alsa-base.conf and reboot
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | joshua__
[15:49] <randomnomad> ok
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> randomnomad: if you run:  alsamixer    are all levels cranked and unmuted? If you press F6 is the right device set for output. Also do the same with the devices in the sound app from Dash
[15:50] <chichov_> do you guys know of a LVM group creation bug when install ubuntu in encrypted mode?
[15:51] <daftykins> version?
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> chichov_: which release?
[15:51] <chichov_> 14.04
[15:51] <daftykins> knew it.
[15:51] <chichov_> from today, daily build
[15:51] <randomnomad> is alsa mixer its the right device and is unmusted
[15:51] <randomnomad> but doesnt show up in pulseaudio
[15:51] <daftykins> chichov_: #ubuntu+1
[15:52] <chichov_> you mean I should join that channel?
[15:52] <daftykins> yes
[15:52] <chichov_> k, and then?
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> chichov_: the channel topic states that Trusty is only supported in #ubuntu+1 til release day...
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> chichov_: join the +1 channel, ask your question, wait for replies
[15:52] <chichov_> alright, thank you
[15:53] <randomnomad> im rebooting the machine now to check to see if it shows now but all the showed snice i updated is anlog audio output
[15:53] <joshua__> is their a program i can use to check the md5
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> joshua__: the page shows that too
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> joshua__: you have to read the page...
[15:53] <DJ_Unibob> Wow, freenode is SLOW to connect to lately.  :(
[15:54] <zubuntu> hi
[15:55] <zubuntu> how to connect to IRC via SSL connection in ubuntu ?
[15:55] <daftykins> zubuntu: please join #freenode to ask there, this is ubuntu support not IRC or freenode support.
[15:56] <zubuntu> daftykins:  i know how to connect irc but it just doesnt work via ubuntu
[15:56] <brothersome> zubuntu: See Xcaht options and putty
[15:56] <zubuntu> hmm  maybe it s because of mIRC On wine
[15:57] <daftykins> zubuntu: ok we don't support running mIRC under WINE to do things, you'll have to talk to the WINE guys in #winehq or get a proper native client
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> zubuntu: why are you using mirc?
[15:57] <zenting> Xchat works fine
[15:57] <daftykins> 'familiarity'
[15:57] <EliasRydberg> Hello, I need help with setting up my dual boot with Windows 7. Right now I have "Ubuntu" and "Windows 8" in the boot selection menu. I had a Windows 8 installation quite long ago and it seems that it's still in the files somewhere. When I try to boot the "Windows 8" option, I get back to the boot selection menu. This might help: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7194758/
[15:57] <zubuntu> ActionParsnip:  because of the scripts
[15:57] <zubuntu> :S
[15:58] <zubuntu> i m more confident with mirc
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> zubuntu: if you like scripts, weechat and irssi can run scripts and is native
[15:58] <zubuntu> ActionParsnip:  u mean irssi can run mirc scripts ?
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> zubuntu: no it runs perl scripts. a standardized language
[15:59] <zubuntu> ActionParsnip:   irssi looks cool but tooo complicated
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> zubuntu: how so?
[16:00] <zubuntu> basically it doesnt show user lists and the channels where i am in
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> zubuntu: you can use ALT+ number to switch channels
[16:01] <WilliamDotAT> bekks: No, i run Windows currently on this PC, i just think about switching
[16:01] <WilliamDotAT> but the multi GPU config worries me
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> zubuntu: http://www.antonfagerberg.com/archive/my-perfect-irssi-setup/ fun :)
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> zubuntu: even talks to google talk
[16:01] <zubuntu> wow
[16:01] <zubuntu> thx ActionParsnip
[16:02] <zubuntu> last night i installed and tested
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> zubuntu: basically, IRSSI makes mirc look like garbage, plus it doesnt need wine
[16:02] <zubuntu> i need to learn more
[16:02] <stayonthehustle> zubuntu: Lots of plugin solutions for irssi to display user lists and what not. It's really a lot of fun to get it setup and custom.
[16:02] <zubuntu> u are right guys
[16:02] <zubuntu> so it is the most powerful irc client ?
[16:04] <stayonthehustle> that's hard to say. All I know it's more than enough power for me.
[16:04] <abuz_> hello
[16:04] <abuz_> what repository i need for upgrade the kernel?
[16:04] <randomnomad> ActionParsnip still dosnt show
[16:05] <stayonthehustle> back in the day mirc tickled my fancy and was a lot of fun. feel like I'm just scratching the surface on irssi but it's powerful and fun
[16:08] <zubuntu> ActionParsnip:  how to load a script ?
[16:08] <zubuntu> http://scripts.irssi.org/scripts/nicklist.pl
[16:08] <zubuntu> this one
[16:08] <stayonthehustle> zubuntu: navigate to your ~/.irssi folder
[16:09] <zubuntu> there i am
[16:09] <zubuntu> just config file in there
[16:09] <stayonthehustle> there's a scripts folder in there and then an autorun one in there too.
[16:10] <stayonthehustle> place scripts in there and load with running the /script load "x" inside irssi
[16:10] <zubuntu> stayonthehustle:  there is no folders :S
[16:10] <zubuntu> just config file
[16:10] <stayonthehustle> zubuntu: np. Just create it
[16:10] <zubuntu> i ll create scripts folder ?
[16:10] <zubuntu> " scripts "
[16:11] <stayonthehustle> http://scripts.irssi.org/
[16:11] <zubuntu> and put the nicklist.pl in there ?
[16:11] <stayonthehustle> First few questions should help you out. :)
[16:11] <zubuntu> got it :)
[16:11] <zubuntu> thank u a lot
[16:11] <stayonthehustle> you got it. Throw it in autorun. :)
[16:11] <stayonthehustle> np at all.
[16:11] <randomnomad> still cant get my hdmi to show up this sucks
[16:11] <randomnomad> lol
[16:12] <randomnomad> but i got an error this time
[16:13] <randomnomad> the blueman-applet crashed
[16:14] <zubuntu> http://scripts.irssi.org/scripts/nicklist.pl
[16:14] <zubuntu> what command to use to show nicklist now ? :S
[16:14] <stayonthehustle> zubuntu: http://wouter.coekaerts.be/site/irssi/nicklist
[16:15] <randomnomad> ActionParsnip could this be something with the video driver ?
[16:15] <stayonthehustle> He also lists the commands in the code.
[16:16] <Praxi> having trouble getting some permissions correctly.  I'm trying to recreate drwxr-sr-x  .  I thought that would be 6745, but that gives me; drwsr-Sr-x
[16:17] <Praxi> the Capitol S means my....group doesn't have execute, is that right?
[16:19] <KyouReeUs4nfo> EliasRydberg: what happens when you reboot from SDC (640 GB) hard drive by changing the boot-order? Does it work? Btw, your partitions need some realigning just saying, if it's okay back-up your data and start-over for good or resize partitions properly. It's been a while since I have done it but that is doable.
[16:26] <randomnomad> i need some help getting my audio to passtough hdmi
[16:28] <jpjacobs> bekks: about the backup FAT superblocks : I've got 10 of them
[16:28] <KyouReeUs4nfo> randomnomad: no sound at all? or some sound but not through hdmi?
[16:28] <bekks> jpjacobs: Yeah :)
[16:29] <randomnomad> i dont have anything hooked up other then hdmi
[16:29] <randomnomad> but it did work untill i updatsed yesterday
[16:29] <randomnomad> *updated
[16:30] <jpjacobs> bekks: and should they all be the same?
[16:30] <bekks> jpjacobs: Not necessarily.
[16:31] <jpjacobs> Because testdisk "recovered" one from backup, and it turned out to make the disk mountable, but all entries are garbeled
[16:31] <KyouReeUs4nfo> randomnomad: do you know what driver does your system use?
[16:32] <randomnomad> its is a nvidia chipset
[16:32] <randomnomad> using 30
[16:32] <juan_> Hello
[16:32] <bekks> jpjacobs: The filenames, etc. arent stored in the superblock, but in the File Allocation Table.
[16:32] <randomnomad> 304 for the video
[16:32] <juan_> Somebody knows a irc chat about openSUSE, please?
[16:33] <cfhowlett> juan_ this is ubuntu support.  for suse go to suse
[16:33] <KyouReeUs4nfo> randomnomad: and do you have the generic one installed?
[16:33] <juan_> I know cfhowlett
[16:33] <juan_> I cant find it
[16:33] <randomnomad> i beleve so
[16:33] <randomnomad> how can i check
[16:34] <jpjacobs> bekks: but a wrong superblock would make the PC parse the wrong chunk on disk as a FAT and therefore display bogus, no?
[16:35] <bekks> jpjacobs: most likely, yes.
[16:35] <randomnomad> oem-audio-hda-daily-dkms for audio
[16:36] <randomnomad> and using nvidia legacy binary driver 304.121 for video
[16:37] <jpjacobs> bekks: Maybe crazy question... would it somehow be possible to keep changes to the disk itself appart? Like zfs does snapshotting for the filesystem, but using the disk as a non-writable base snapshot
[16:39] <KyouReeUs4nfo> randomnomad: do you have nvidia-settings-304 installed?
[16:41] <randomnomad> yes
[16:41] <randomnomad> im going to update to 331
[16:41] <randomnomad> just to see if this helps the problem or not
[16:44] <KyouReeUs4nfo> randomnomad: I am looking at apt-cache for nvidia packages, if you would like to peek as well
[16:45] <randomnomad> im kinda new to this
[16:46] <KyouReeUs4nfo> sudo apt-cache search nvidia |more
[16:46] <randomnomad> got you
[16:46] <KyouReeUs4nfo> randomnomad: it shows you available packages for download through apt-get
[16:46] <jeff123> I just installed ubuntu on my lenovo y510p following these instructions http://outhereinthefield.wordpress.com/2014/02/25/ubuntu-13-10-saucy-salamander-on-lenovo-ideapad-y510/
[16:47] <jeff123> When I boot I go straight to command line, no gui.
[16:47] <jeff123> Any ideas on where to go?
[16:47] <randomnomad> ok
[16:47] <brothersome> jeff123: startx
[16:48] <jeff123> wow
[16:48] <jeff123> Thanks!
[16:48] <k1l> jeff123: no
[16:49] <k1l> start the *dm (lightdm)in ubuntu and dont use startx.
[16:49] <randomnomad> nothing in there for audio
[16:49] <randomnomad> lol
[16:50] <rokkie> I ssh tunnel to another machine (host1) which works just fine, but if I wont to extend the tunnel from localhost via host1 to host2, its not working.... can somebody support ?
[16:51] <KyouReeUs4nfo> randomnomad: pastebin output of lsmod
[16:52] <randomnomad> http://pastebin.com/f622AMVX
[16:55] <YokoBR> hey guys, i have a gigabit switch, and a gigabit pci-e card on two computers, but when i try to transfer files between them, i only get 1mbps
[16:56] <KyouReeUs4nfo> randomnomad: the URL for me is blocked :) could you please use paste.ubuntu.com?
[16:56] <vlt> YokoBR: NFS? sshfs? scp? rsync?
[16:56] <YokoBR> vlt, smb share
[16:57] <YokoBR> vlt and sshfs
[16:57] <vlt> YokoBR: What happens with one large file? What avg transfer rate do you get?
[16:57] <randomnomad> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7195055/
[16:59] <YokoBR> vlt, same, 1mbps
[16:59] <root_> apt-get
[16:59] <openelecpi> hi everybody! does anyone know if there's a way to "decompile" unstripped kernel modules back to C code?
[17:00] <vlt> YokoBR: Do you get higher rates w/o sshfs or smb? Using just nc, for example?
[17:00] <YaMoonSun> How do you uninstall macbuntu?
[17:00] <cfhowlett> YaMoonSun how did you install?
[17:01] <KyouReeUs4nfo> randomnomad: output of lspci please
[17:01] <openelecpi> YaMoonSun: it's not possible to uninstall it - you have to purge it
[17:01] <YaMoonSun> Ah
[17:01] <YokoBR> vlt, yep, my NAS server get's better rates
[17:02] <skinux> I tried launching app from desktop icon, but Ubuntu says it's I need to mark the app as 'safe'. How do I do that?
[17:02] <randomnomad> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7195069/
[17:02] <vlt> YokoBR: I mean between the two machines you’re talking about. Do you get a higher bandwidth with plain nc?
[17:02] <YokoBR> vlt, haven't tryied
[17:03] <openelecpi> anyone?
[17:04] <cfhowlett> openelecpi perhaps ask the C channel
[17:05] <zubuntu> is there a way to make Terminal , copy when we select the texts ?
[17:05] <zubuntu> like Putty does ?
[17:05] <wheatthin> just highlight and to paste click the mouse wheel
[17:05] <allgoodAtTaoti> hi all, hopfully I can get some support real quick. I'm running a host which I think may be comprimised. I have noticed a binary called b26 taking up a good portion of our cpu resources at times. I did a  quick google search on this and it mentions that this server might be comprimised and is being used in a ddos.
[17:05] <allgoodAtTaoti> I tried installing auditctl to monitor outbound connections but got an error message at the end. http://pastebin.com/GXugEx0k
[17:05] <allgoodAtTaoti> I can run the auditctl command but running sudo auditctl -A exit,always -S connect results in
[17:05] <allgoodAtTaoti> WARNING - 32/64 bit syscall mismatch, you should specify an arch
[17:05] <allgoodAtTaoti> I've tried sudo auditctl -A exit,always -F arch=64 -S connect (and 32 for shits and giggles) but get arch=64 elf mapping not found
[17:05] <allgoodAtTaoti> Can anyone help me quickly get set up with a way to monitor and log outbound connections?
[17:05] <unopaste> allgoodAtTaoti you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[17:06] <KyouReeUs4nfo> randomnomad: output of dmesg |grep hda_codec
[17:07] <randomnomad> [   12.838536] snd_hda_codec: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel
[17:07] <randomnomad> theres the problem lol
[17:08] <randomnomad> damn tainting kernel
[17:08] <cfhowlett> that sounds ... dirty.
[17:08] <randomnomad> i know
[17:08] <allgoodAtTaoti> hi all, hopfully I can get some support real quick. I just got muted so the rest of this question will come in peices =( I'm running a host which I think may be comprimised. I have noticed a binary called b26 taking up a good portion of our cpu resources at times. I did a  quick google search on this and it mentions that this server might be comprimised and is being used in a ddos.
[17:09] <allgoodAtTaoti> I tried installing auditctl to monitor outbound connections but got an error message at the end. http://pastebin.com/GXugEx0k
[17:09] <donavan01> what is the most windows like filemanager out there for ubuntu ...im trying to build a system that is as close to windows in form as can be ... trying to move my parents over to linux but they wont adapt well to too many changes
[17:09] <allgoodAtTaoti> I can run the auditctl command but running sudo auditctl -A exit,always -S connect results in
[17:09] <agenteo> hi, how do you stop ubuntu from automatically starting the update manager?
[17:09] <agenteo> I’ve done: echo "APT::Periodic::Unattended-Upgrade \"0\";" >> /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic¬
[17:09] <agenteo> but it doesn’t seem to work
[17:09] <allgoodAtTaoti> WARNING - 32/64 bit syscall mismatch, you should specify an arch 13:05:45 - allgoodAtTaoti: I've tried sudo auditctl -A exit,always -F arch=64 -S connect (and 32 for shits and giggles) but get arch=64 elf mapping not found
[17:09] <allgoodAtTaoti> 13:05:45 - allgoodAtTaoti: Can anyone help me quickly get set up with a way to monitor and log outbound connections?
[17:10] <cfhowlett> agenteo system > update  manager > settings
[17:10] <allgoodAtTaoti> sorry about that formatting, i got my own name stuff in there, wow
[17:10] <KyouReeUs4nfo> randomnomad: did you figure it out?
[17:10] <agenteo> @cfhowlett I wanted to script it
[17:10] <randomnomad> no but i am googing lol
[17:10] <cfhowlett> allgoodAtTaoti have you posted this in the forums?  if not, do so and post the link here
[17:11] <KyouReeUs4nfo> randomnomad: that's the way, good work
[17:11] <allgoodAtTaoti> I havne't, I will do so
[17:11] <cfhowlett> agenteo script . what?  autoupdates?
[17:11] <agenteo> stopping them
[17:11] <agenteo> stopping the annoying pop up
[17:12] <cfhowlett> agenteo turn off auto update = no more pop up
[17:12] <kantlivelong> anyone know why my soundcard shows up in alsamixer but not pulseaudio after resuming from suspend? ubuntu 12.04
[17:12] <allgoodAtTaoti> cfhowlett, I'm not super familar with ubuntus community forums, is there one in particualr that suits my issue I didn't see anything right off the bat but admitdly I'm in a rush and working quickly
[17:12] <agenteo> yeah I understand that :) I am provisioning this machine via a script
[17:12] <cfhowlett> allgoodAtTaoti www.askubuntu.com
[17:13] <agenteo> I was looking for a way to stop that by setting a system config
[17:13] <allgoodAtTaoti> oh i was here anyways http://ubuntuforums.org/
[17:13] <allgoodAtTaoti> hehe tyvm
[17:13] <cfhowlett> agenteo ah, got it.  I'm sure there's a CLI option, but I don't know what it is.  sorry.
[17:13] <agenteo> no worries, the one I found googling didn’t work
[17:15] <OerHeks> agenteo, maybe this answers are any help >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/426736/how-to-prevent-a-kiosk-running-ubuntu-13-10-showing-the-update-dialog-popup-wind
[17:16] <randomnomad> it looks like its a bug in the alsa driver
[17:20] <KyouReeUs4nfo> randomnomad: is there a way for you revert back to the working driver? curious if apt-cache policy nvidia will show previous version..
[17:21] <KyouReeUs4nfo> randomnomad: sudo apt-cache policy nvidia*
[17:22] <allgoodAtTaoti> Hi all, I'm trying to solve this issue with auditctl/possible compromised box. Anyone have suggestions / help?
[17:22] <allgoodAtTaoti> http://askubuntu.com/questions/442514/server-possibly-compromised
[17:25] <randomnomad> but is the problem with the nvidia driver of the alsa driver
[17:25] <randomnomad> or
[17:29] <KyouReeUs4nfo> randomnomad: dmesg |grep hda_codec
[17:30] <randomnomad> one sec sorry rebooted it
[17:36] <hdon> dpkg -S /usr/lib/*/pkgconfig/x*saver.pc # can anyone run this for me? if you have this file installed, it will tell you what package it came from. i can't find it on google and i haven't found an answer by searching and guessing with apt
[17:37] <k1l> !away > bfiller_afk
[17:37] <jpds> hdon: You can also use pakages.ubuntu.com
[17:37] <hdon> jpds, ohh... thanks i'll give it a try
[17:38] <hdon> jpds, hmm.. i thought this might let me search for filenames contained in packages... is this possible?
[17:38] <hdon> oh i found it
[17:38] <hdon> just had to scroll down :\
[17:39] <hdon> ahh, libxss-dev
[17:39] <KyouReeUs4nfo> randomnomad: if you are looking to troubleshoot ALSA .. http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=53708
[17:39] <hdon> thanks for the advice jpds i'll have to remember this
[17:41] <jpds> hdon: That, or you can install apt-file.
[17:41] <jpds> !apt-file
[17:42] <randomnomad> sorry had to have a cig to
[17:46] <CryptoServ[Crypt> hey folks
[17:46] <CryptoServ[Crypt> whats the latest stable ubuntu?
[17:46] <Burrito> 12.10 and 13.10
[17:47] <jpds> CryptoServ[Crypt: 12.04 LTS.
[17:47] <davividal> how can I downgrade bison from 2.7 to 2.6 on saucy?
[17:47] <CryptoServ[Crypt> 13.10 looks good
[17:47] <Burrito> oh, my topic was truncated.
[17:47] <Fjorgynn> 13.37
[17:48] <Burrito> "Currently supported versions 10.04 LTS (server), 12.04 LTS, 12.10 and 13.10"
[17:48] <eduardo_> i need help with making room in my boot folder
[17:48] <davividal> in fact, I need to downgrade to 2.5
[17:48] <eduardo_>   i have two kernels and if i want to update ubuntu it says not enough free space
[17:49] <CryptoServ[Crypt> why not 13.04?
[17:49] <CryptoServ[Crypt> hmm
[17:49] <CryptoServ[Crypt> 12.04 is kinda old?
[17:49] <DJones> CryptoServ[Crypt: 13.04 is end of life & no longer suppoerted/updated
[17:50] <CryptoServ[Crypt> i see
[17:50] <CryptoServ[Crypt> 12.04 - possible to use boost 1.55 and such?
[17:50] <CryptoServ[Crypt> I want to migrate
[17:51] <LucidGuy>  Odd situation.  KDE/ubuntu workstaition authenticating via ldap.  I can login to the system with a local account and an ldap account.  But unable to unlock the lock screen with local accounts.  ldap accounts can unlock the lock screen???
[17:52] <eduardo_> i have a partition dedicated to /boot... till some time ago i had enough free space... but seems that newer kernels need more space to installl
[17:52] <CryptoServ[Crypt> whats the easiest way to move entire ubuntu install to new server?
[17:52] <CryptoServ[Crypt> is there some way to do it?
[17:53] <KyouReeUs4nfo> CryptoServ[Crypt: move hard-drive
[17:53] <CryptoServ[Crypt> al very least I want to move mariadb and nginx install
[17:53] <CryptoServ[Crypt> both are remote servers :D
[17:54] <KyouReeUs4nfo> CryptoServ[Crypt: can't think of an easy way
[17:55] <eduardo_> i f i change the size of my partition, i had to format no ? i wanted to five 10 mb more to my /boot partition or perhaps put a symlink instead some file
[17:55] <CryptoServ[Crypt> oki
[17:57] <KyouReeUs4nfo> eduardo_: back-up your data before repartitioning
[17:58] <eduardo_> KyouReeUs4nfo i want if its possible plan B ....i supose i would make something wrong.... and /boot not the partition to play with...
[17:59] <KyouReeUs4nfo> eduardo_: I think if partitions are properly aligned, resizing will affect all of them
[18:00] <KyouReeUs4nfo> eduardo_: ??
[18:00] <eduardo_> KyouReeUs4nfo i think so, but i wasnt sure... in the other partition i have lot of free space... but i think that when you resize one partition all have to be formatted again...
[18:02] <eduardo_> KyouReeUs4nfo perhaps a symlink ? i had 80 mb in /boot and i thought it was enough for having two kernels... perhaps 3 but ubuntu need lot of space for installing
[18:03] <KyouReeUs4nfo> eduardo_: if you know current kernel works, you can remove the third one and keep two of them
[18:04] <eduardo_> KyouReeUs4nfo the problem is that with suse i had three kernels... and with ubuntu i have space for one...really two... but the second need lots fo space to be installed
[18:05] <eduardo_> once is installed it has enough room..... i suppose is the upgrading process that needs lots of space in ubuntu..
[18:05] <KyouReeUs4nfo> eduardo_: what does df -h look like?
[18:06] <eduardo_> http://pastebin.com/nqntsWev
[18:07] <zenx> I installed 14.04 a while back using a daily image. Will the updates bring it to the latest version even upon official release or will I have to reinstall?
[18:08] <zenx> sorry wrong chan
[18:08] <OerHeks> zenx, yes, when released you will get the final
[18:08] <zenx> OerHeks, thanks
[18:09] <KyouReeUs4nfo> eduardo_: you do have enough space in / ; if you have to have three kernels and space issue becomes worse I would recommend just using / and /home as mount points in the future
[18:09] <Jaques> asdf
[18:10] <OerHeks> anybody smell dead fish?
[18:10] <Jaques> hello, im upgrading to ubuntu 13.10 and it got stuck on downlaoding flashplugin-installer
[18:10] <eduardo_> KyouReeUs4nfo: with two kernels are enough for me...but with ubuntu i cant.....well i can but i have to do some tricks to upgrade.....
[18:11] <KyouReeUs4nfo> eduardo_: please share those tricks without hesitating
[18:12] <OerHeks> Jaques, may reinstall solves that, sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer
[18:13] <Jaques> OerHeks: im upgrading
[18:13] <eduardo_> KyouReeUs4nfo i need about 8mb...so i have to move some grubs file moving to /home like unicode.pf2 and some *.mod files
[18:13] <Jaques> i cand do nothing
[18:13] <eduardo_> then when upgrading process was complete i return those files back to their place....
[18:14] <Jaques> eduardo_: the thing is
[18:14] <Jaques> the upgrading process wont end
[18:14] <eduardo_> but now software updater tells me that i need 8mb... and no way to free this space
[18:14] <Jaques> because its stuck
[18:14] <Jaques> as i said
[18:14] <OerHeks> Jaques, so the upgrade is broken now, or in a loop?
[18:14] <Jaques> broken
[18:14] <OerHeks> Jaques, then sudo apt-get install -f
[18:14] <eduardo_> Jaques: it doesnt begin because i got a message that i need 8mb of free space in my /boot partition
[18:15] <KyouReeUs4nfo> eduardo_: what does the message look like? screenshot?
[18:17] <eduardo_> KyouReeUs4nfo sure software updater is running now..
[18:18] <KyouReeUs4nfo> eduardo_: too late for this but here is the sys requirements page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[18:20] <eduardo_> KyouReeUs4nfo i have all the requirements.... problem is that sofware updater needs lot of free space to upgrading dont know why as nor suse or fedora needed so much....
[18:23] <KyouReeUs4nfo> eduardo_: what files do you have now in /boot? ls -lh /boot
[18:24] <eduardo_> http://pastebin.com/zVH2E5WH
[18:25] <eduardo_> KyouReeUs4nfo: http://imagebin.ca/v/1Het8xCyvZDc
[18:25] <Besmrtnik> hello I use device with arm processor, similar to raspberry pi, I need help to take away some space from system ext3 partiton to make swap partition, because it has very very little ram, pls help :)
[18:26] <eduardo_> first step.... now i click instalar ahora ( insalling now)
[18:27] <eduardo_> then http://imagebin.ca/v/1HetXJ5wVBNA is in spanish... but is easy to understand i think...
[18:27] <eduardo_> i have removed the old kernel with ubuntu tweaks.... which i think is little buggy....
[18:28] <KyouReeUs4nfo> eduardo_: how much space did that give you? is it enough?
[18:29] <nexus1991> 1
[18:29] <eduardo_> it says that it needs at least 8.700 additional kb....which is incredible
[18:29] <nexus1991> 0
[18:30] <KyouReeUs4nfo> eduardo_: that's great :)
[18:31] <eduardo_> my /boot has 88 mb and only 35 used so with another 35 should make the job....
[18:31] <CryptoServ[Crypt> :)))))
[18:31] <eduardo_> but to install another kernel needs 57 mb... the double of a average kernel....
[18:32] <kkrusty> Hi. What is the notification daemon on ubuntu 13.10?
[18:33] <eduardo_> i think is something wrong with upgrading kernels....
[18:34] <bekks> eduardo_: you just need more free space in /boot
[18:35] <eduardo_> well id comeback later.... im a real madrid suporter ;)
[18:36] <KyouReeUs4nfo> eduardo_: I can't think of a way to install a new kernel and keep only that one while using the old kernel when there is no space
[18:37] <eduardo_> KyouReeUs4nfo : ive done it till today...usually it only gives me 1mb or least of free space.... but today 8mb ??? wtf....
[18:38] <trism> kkrusty: depends on the desktop, but if unity notify-osd
[18:39] <Besmrtnik> sorry for spamming, can someone help me make swap partition or swap file on existing ext3 partition
[18:39] <KyouReeUs4nfo> eduardo_: compiling your own kernel is another long way to go if you feel like it
[18:42] <kkrusty> trism: just found out its dunst because I'm using i3-wm
[18:43] <kkrusty> didnt find it in an obvious way. It was installed as a dbus service
[18:45] <trism> kkrusty: yep they are all dbus services, just not all of them have service files (such as notification-daemon)
[18:45] <parapan> hi all ...I tried to install a .run file ....ati radeon x7000 driver for linux; and I get an error Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version default:v2:i686:lib::none:3.2.0-60-generic-pae; make sure that the version is being correctly set by --iscurrentdistro
[18:45] <bekks> parapan: Which Ubuntu are you on?
[18:46] <parapan> bekks > 12.04 LTS
[18:46] <OerHeks> i686 ...
[18:47] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Besmrtnik: are you using Ubuntu?
[18:47] <bekks> parapan: then you run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to get the latest updates for 12.04 - and update to the latest kernel for 12.04 afterwards.
[18:47] <saften> What's the difference between recursive and iterative?
[18:47] <Besmrtnik> KyouReeUs4nfo: thank you for replaying, I am using lubuntu actually
[18:48] <parapan> bekks: and then try again ?
[18:48] <bekks> parapan: Yes.
[18:48] <schrocatnotdead> :-D
[18:48] <KyouReeUs4nfo> saften: recursive is not iterative (recursion is more like traversal while iterative is repetition) I think
[18:48] <parapan> bekks: oky doky ...don't go away
[18:49] <parapan> bekks: the same issue ....the same error
[18:49] <smittix> Does anyone know how to increase battery life on a laptop that uses nVidia Optimus? I have installed LMT and Bumble bee
[18:49] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Besmrtnik: I presume you already have a swap partition, yes?
[18:50] <bekks> parapan: You cant have updated your release that fast including installing a new kernel and rebooting.
[18:50] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Besmrtnik: swap space?
[18:50] <bekks> parapan: So please do that.
[18:50] <Besmrtnik> KyouReeUs4nfo: no I dont have any swap space, I have only 1 partiton ext3 on which is my system
[18:50] <parapan> I've run the update and upgrade ....there were 8 Mb to download of new packages
[18:51] <parapan> bekks: but I didn't rebooted I'll give you that :0
[18:51] <filip_> hi
[18:51] <filip_> Does somebody working with midi files
[18:52] <filip_> I am using MIDIeditor but i have a problem with play my music in it... ports set but dont work :(
[18:54] <alquaida> hi
[18:54] <filip_> hi
[18:54] <OerHeks> filip_, ubuntu-studio uses jack for soundcontrol, somehow there is a reason for it.
[18:54] <filip_> So should i try to connect some device?
[18:54] <alquaida> my net provider is bloking me to acces the internet on a browser is there anyway i can avoid that
[18:54] <alquaida> ?
[18:55] <alquaida> my net provider is bloking me to acces the internet on a browser is there anyway i can avoid that
[18:55] <filip_> alquaida could you zoom your problem?
[18:55] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Besmrtnik: can you pastebin the output of sudo swapon -s
[18:55] <alquaida> i didnn't pay the internet
[18:55] <Besmrtnik> KyouReeUs4nfo: sure
[18:55] <alquaida> and now block my ip from connecting on a browser
[18:55] <bekks> alquaida: then you have to pay your internet first.
[18:55] <alquaida> i have static ip
[18:55] <alquaida> but
[18:55] <OerHeks> filip_, open terminal: alsamixer # and play around with F6=sounddevice and input/output
[18:55] <alquaida> until tomorrow
[18:55] <filip_> huh, than you have to connect up ilegal to your neigbour :-D
[18:55] <alquaida> is there any proxy
[18:55] <alquaida> i can use
[18:55] <alquaida> ?
[18:56] <bekks> alquaida: we dont support illegal activities like betraying your ISP.
[18:56] <alquaida> i dont now how
[18:56] <Hamaryns> hi all,
[18:56] <alquaida> until tomorrow
[18:56] <alquaida> then i go pay
[18:56] <alquaida> but now is close
[18:56] <bekks> alquaida: We dont support that. At all.
[18:56] <alquaida> ok
[18:56] <OerHeks> wrong channel, alquaida
[18:56] <alquaida> ok
[18:57] <Hamaryns> I installed Eclipse by hand, but I cannot access the menu which is in the top bar: clicking on a menu item highlights it, but the menu itself remains invisible (as if it is hidden behind a window)
[18:57] <Hamaryns> help please!
[18:57] <parapan> bekks: Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version default:v2:i686:lib::none:3.2.0-60-generic-pae; make sure that the version is being correctly set by --iscurrentdistro
[18:57] <Hamaryns> can I start a window with its own menu?
[18:57] <bekks> parapan: You did not update your kernel as I told you.
[18:57] <KyouReeUs4nfo> alquaida: you are on internet
[18:57] <bekks> parapan: Please install the latest kernel for 12.04
[18:58] <parapan> bekks: how ?
[18:58] <Besmrtnik> KyouReeUs4nfo:  its blank/empty no info
[18:58] <OerHeks> Hamaryns, alt + left mouse to drag window away
[18:58] <bekks> parapan: sudo apt-get install linux-image
[18:58] <parapan> aaaaa....
[18:58] <Besmrtnik> KyouReeUs4nfo:  I du not have swap parttition, I saw there is way to make swap file or something like that
[18:58] <alquaida> can you give me a http proxy i can use?
[18:59] <bekks> alquaida: No.
[18:59] <Hamaryns> OerHeks: that is not the point.  The menu remains in the top bar (what is it called?)\
[18:59] <alquaida> is not illegal
[18:59] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Besmrtnik: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-add-swap-on-ubuntu-12-04
[18:59] <bekks> alquaida: It is, as long as you did not pay your internet access.
[18:59] <parapan> bekks: reboot or ????
[18:59] <bekks> parapan: Yes.
[18:59] <parapan> wait
[18:59] <OerHeks> Hamaryns, ah, you mean Global menu
[18:59] <alquaida> pls
[18:59] <alquaida> just one day
[19:00] <bekks> alquaida: Not for a second. Please stop it now.
[19:00] <filip_> Yes i opened alsamixer but i have  devices here
[19:00] <filip_> 2*
[19:01] <Hamaryns> OerHeks: I suppose so
[19:01] <unixresources> u
[19:03] <filip_> OerHeks the problem stays :-/
[19:04] <alquaida> what can i do without internet?
[19:04] <bekks> alquaida: you have internet, you are currently in this chat.
[19:04] <filip_> use IRC chat :D
[19:04] <alquaida> is
[19:04] <alquaida> i don;t now how
[19:04] <linagee> I update my 14.04 like 3 times a day and there's always updates. O_o
[19:04] <filip_> try to ping some server
[19:05] <alquaida> when trying to connect via browserr
[19:05] <linagee> kind of crazy/awesome
[19:05] <filip_> linagee how is it going with that beta ?
[19:05] <linagee> filip_: works fine.
[19:05] <alquaida> redirect me to internet provider webpage
[19:05] <rcyc> \quit
[19:05] <bekks> alquaida: Please stop asking on how to cheat your ISP.
[19:05] <faiss> how can i rename p3p2 to eth0 on saucy?
[19:06] <alquaida> i don't wanna cheat
[19:06] <Pici> alquaida: speak to your ISP.  Or look elsewhere for a proxy. This isn't something that we provide in this channel.
[19:06] <bekks> faiss: how did you manage to have systemd devices names in saucy?
[19:07] <parapan> bekks: the same thing ...man we must go one step back ....
[19:07] <bekks> parapan: Which kernel are you currently using?
[19:08] <parapan> bekks: Linux 3.2.0-60-generic-pae #91-Ubuntu SMP Wed Feb 19 04:14:56 UTC 2014 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[19:08] <filip_> Could someone help me ? I have a problem with playing MIDI files in MIDIeditor, but sounds in my system works fine :-( I have 2 ports available there but no one of them work
[19:08] <faiss> bekks, i didn't get what you mean..
[19:08] <parapan> bekks: when giving apt-get install linux-image it say ..already updated to the latest kernel version ...
[19:10] <filip_> Could someone help me ? I have a problem with playing MIDI files in MIDIeditor, but sounds in my system works fine :-( I have 2 ports available there but no one of them work
[19:10] <bekks> parapan: the latest kernel for 12.04 is 3.8.0
[19:11] <filip_> Could someone help me ? I have a problem with playing MIDI files in MIDIeditor, but sounds in my system works fine :-( I have 2 ports available there but no one of them works, frustrating :)
[19:11] <parapan> bek ...k, why didn't updates to my system ?
[19:11] <parapan> should I change the servers ?
[19:11] <Pici> !!repeat | filip_
[19:11] <Hamaryns> hi can I make a program not use the global menu?
[19:11] <OerHeks> filip_, you might want to ask in #ubuntu-studio too
[19:12] <OerHeks> filip_, ubuntu-studio uses jack for soundcontrol, somehow there is a reason for it.
[19:12] <Hamaryns> also: how to best setup an external ext4 drive so that all users of the computer can use it?  I had the group users to have writing rights, but Ubuntu does not seem to use the users group as a default.
[19:13] <Hamaryns> How to create groups and add users to them?  Only via command line, by editing /etc/passwd?\
[19:14] <Besmrtnik> KyouReeUs4nfo: thank you  lot I think it worked out
[19:14] <filip_> OerHeks i am not sure if you mean distro ubuntu studio but i dont have this
[19:14] <[Gentoo]> Hamaryns: use groupadd and usermod
[19:14] <Barney> Hello everyone. New Ubuntu user here. I've got a couple of questions.  1. I cannot get Ubuntu to recognize the extra  buttons on my Logitech mouse. Is there a way to get Ubuntu to make use of the extra buttons?
[19:14] <[Gentoo]> Hamaryns: why the other way
[19:14] <OerHeks> filip_, no, the #ubuntu-studio channel here on #Freenode
[19:17] <parapan> bekks: changed the server sourcea ...the same thing there are no updates to install
[19:25] <Besmrtnik> who ever helped me :) I forgot nick, it worked thank you a lot good man
[19:25] <Besmrtnik> http://pastebin.com/f0HutSnT
[19:26] <Reptilia> I came here 4-5 days ago, asking for a solution for the distorted / clipping-alike sound that i was getting on my distro. But i've tried using Firefox instead (listening to music from Youtube), and the sound is excellent. So, it turns out that Chromium is not the best option when you're using Linux. Not only that, there are many other things that does not work on Chromium, but work perfectly on Firefox.
[19:27] <joha> Anybody figured out the "Silverligt crash" using netflix-desktop?
[19:27] <schreber> Is there a specific channel to talk about 14.04 or is it okay to discuss it in the main channel?
[19:27] <Pici> schreber: #ubuntu+1 until release day
[19:27] <schreber> Pici, gracias
[19:27] <catnig> schreber: You dope
[19:28] <Janusz> Hello. Is Mint a competitor for Ubuntu?
[19:29] <Reptilia> Janusz: Don't think so?
[19:30] <catnig> Reptilia: keep your opinion to yourself punk
[19:30] <Janusz> Reptilia: Until Ubuntu is not over-popular (what makes viruses etc. appear), another popular Linux distro is not so needed.
[19:30] <mok> hi guys i am naveed can u guys tell me what irc really is
[19:31] <mok> i know i m using it
[19:31] <CryptoServ[Crypt> yes
[19:31] <CryptoServ[Crypt> its chat
[19:31] <CryptoServ[Crypt> to talk
[19:31] <joha> Anybody figured out the "Silverligt crash" using netflix-desktop?
[19:31] <catnig> mok Is dumb
[19:32] <CryptoServ[Crypt> why
[19:32] <CryptoServ[Crypt> some people are new to irc
[19:32] <CryptoServ[Crypt> hehe
[19:32] <catnig> joha: Hey
[19:32] <joha> catnig: Hey?
[19:32] <mok> so one thing i have liked about u dont have to register and stuff  which is what i think make's it pretty useful
[19:33] <Reptilia> catnig: Dude, keep it calm, lol. I just expressed my thoughts, that Mint could not be a competitor of Ubuntu, because Ubuntu is the most popular and the most user-friendly distro.
[19:33] <Janusz> What's the command do priv with someone?
[19:33] <joha> ./chat
[19:33] <CryptoServ[Crypt> mok yep
[19:33] <CryptoServ[Crypt> irc is pretty good
[19:33] <Pici> !offtopic
[19:33] <CryptoServ[Crypt> who is aaas?
[19:34] <CryptoServ[Crypt> lol such name
[19:34] <catnig> Reptilia: mint is more newbie based. You Jack a__
[19:34] <aaas> it's not ass it's aaas ;)
[19:34] <Reptilia> lol
[19:34] <CryptoServ[Crypt> lol are you a programmer? :d
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> catnig: remember Ubuntu's target audience.....
[19:34] <CryptoServ[Crypt> I have theory people with unusual names are programmers :D
[19:34] <aaas> yes, but i it's just a random string..not of any significance
[19:35] <aaas> im in the habit of using random names for privacy concerns and i didn't change it for irc
[19:35] <Janusz> ./chat doesn't work
[19:35] <rww> Janusz: /msg nickhere some message here
[19:35] <MadZarx> hello :)
[19:35] <s3m73x> hiho
[19:35] <rww> Janusz: /query nickhere may also work
[19:36] <CryptoServ[Crypt> aaas but you are not on tor :P
[19:36] <Janusz> Rww: works, thank You
[19:36] <CryptoServ[Crypt> as to ubuntu ubuntu is linux
[19:36] <CryptoServ[Crypt> simple as that
[19:36] <aaas> haha..yeah well everyone has a preference for their level of privacy
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> Aaas: optonline.net ?
[19:36] <rww> Back to support, folks :). Non-support chat goes to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[19:36] <aaas> ActionParsnip yeah good luck with that ;)
[19:37] <CryptoServ[Crypt> remove tyran rww! :D
[19:37] <CryptoServ[Crypt> hehe
[19:37] <k1l_> !guidelines > catnig
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> CryptoServ[Crypt: ubuntu is a dostribution. Linux is only the kernel?
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> Aaas: try a whois on me ;)
[19:38] <CryptoServ[Crypt> ActionParsnip: what I meant Ubuntu seems a top choice
[19:38] <aaas> ActionParsnip why?
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> CryptoServ[Crypt: distribution. Sorry
[19:38] <CryptoServ[Crypt> ubuntu member mask
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> Aaas: even better than yours :-) member cloak :-)
[19:38] <Baribal> Hi. I've got a server that is failing every now and then, as if the power just went out, but which can be rebooted. I'm running a few Munin plugins, but see nothing suspicious. syslog also reports nothing of interest. How can I go on diagnosing what happens there?
[19:38] <aaas> ActionParsnip yeah that's what i call marginal gains ;)
[19:39] <CryptoServ[Crypt> aaas:  well for some they are massive
[19:39] <CryptoServ[Crypt> :D
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> CryptoServ[Crypt: top choice depends on needs really
[19:39] <aaas> yes i guess it depends on the person
[19:39] <CryptoServ[Crypt> ActionParsnip: yes I mean for ordinary users
[19:39] <CryptoServ[Crypt> home use
[19:39] <CryptoServ[Crypt> I dont  know any other disto that is any popular with newbies :D
[19:39] <CryptoServ[Crypt> fedora? lol
[19:40] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Ubuntu provides quick runway for those with Windows landing-gear, which they lose eventually.
[19:40] <CryptoServ[Crypt> yep
[19:40] <MadZarx> CryptoServ[Crypt: linux is the best OS. Ubuntu is great for starters
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> CryptoServ[Crypt: for home use I have converted some people to xpud and even puppy
[19:40] <CryptoServ[Crypt> ee what is xpud? :D
[19:40] <CryptoServ[Crypt> so far I know about puppy
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> CryptoServ[Crypt: check it out. Boots super fast
[19:41] <k1l_> !ot
[19:41] <CryptoServ[Crypt> also how come so many things are called - chef, puppy - instead of say RemodratonX4764444
[19:41] <CryptoServ[Crypt> :)
[19:41] <k1l_> CryptoServ[Crypt: lets stick to technical ubuntu support in here. we have a offtopic channel for chatter
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> CryptoServ[Crypt: just a name, humans like labels and names
[19:42] <CryptoServ[Crypt> yes k1l_ come to offtopic
[19:42] <CryptoServ[Crypt> ;)
[19:42] <CryptoServ[Crypt> hehe
[19:42] <mok> how many of u guys have tried Xubuntu?
[19:42] <CryptoServ[Crypt> nope
[19:42] <jpds> CryptoServ[Crypt: Wow, I wonder what you're going to name your kids.
[19:43] <CryptoServ[Crypt> Xzondroid69
[19:43] <MadZarx> mok: I have XUbuntu right know ;)
[19:43] <CryptoServ[Crypt> something like that :D
[19:43] <vincent_> hello !
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> Mok: many have and do use Xubuntu
[19:43] <alquaida> how con i surf anonymous on the internet?
[19:43] <k1l_> mok: better ask a specific question
[19:43] <theadmin> alquaida: Many ways. I would recommend Tor, see http://torproject.org
[19:43] <alquaida> tnx
[19:44] <CryptoServ[Crypt> hmmm guys who talk here you are not in offtopic :(
[19:44] <CryptoServ[Crypt> :D
[19:44] <vincent_> I have a question, how I can run Eclipse Juno on ubunto 13.10 please? sorry for my bad english
[19:44] <mok> i had recently replaced my windows xp to Xubuntu  on some 6-7 yr. old hardware  and it's  atleast 10 times faster
[19:44] <alquaida> how can i browse on the internet in terminal?
[19:44] <Pici> alquaida: I think w3m is installed by default.
[19:45] <MadZarx> mok: XUbuntu performs much more faster than windows
[19:45] <theadmin> alquaida: You can use Lynx or Elinks or many other console browsers, but note that images, Flash etc won't work (obviously)
[19:45] <mok> MadZarx: yeah Dude
[19:46] <CryptoServ[Crypt> :)
[19:46] <CryptoServ[Crypt> seems I got disconnected
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> vincent_: eclipse is installable, yes
[19:46] <CryptoServ[Crypt> puppy I  checked it
[19:46] <CryptoServ[Crypt> its kinda small
[19:47] <k1l_> CryptoServ[Crypt: i kicked you because of your offtopic. stick to the guidelines or we need to keep you away from this channel
 Can you explain how ? ^^
[19:47] <mok> alquaida:so what is this w3m
[19:47] <MadZarx> mok: linux is much more better than linux specially for development purposes ;)
[19:47] <CryptoServ[Crypt> k1l_: lol most people here talk offtopic
[19:47] <CryptoServ[Crypt> thats what we want
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> !eclipse
[19:48] <bekks> alquaida: you will get no answer in here. You have been told multiple times.
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> vincent_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseIDE
[19:49] <AnonGrim> hello all
[19:49] <vincent_> ActionParsnip : Thanks :)
[19:50] <mok> MadZarx:Dude is there a way i can have a sun solaris os with ubuntu's apt repositories
[19:51] <AnonGrim> probably
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> Mok: the OSes are entirely different
[19:51] <MadZarx> mok: I'm not sure. I have never used Sun Solaris.
[19:51] <AnonGrim> but you would break the os
[19:51] <Pici> mok: short answer: no.  Long answer: absolutely not.
[19:52] <theadmin> Not possible, Solaris isn't even a Linux OS
[19:52] <mok> i have asked this question beacause i  have heard solaris handles multithreading and processing much better than any other linux distro
[19:53] <theadmin> mok: Solaris is NOT Linux.
[19:53] <Pici> mok: maybe beacuse its not Linux.
[19:53] <AnonGrim> thats disputable
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> Mok: its subjective
[19:53] <MadZarx> nothing is better than linux ;)
[19:53] <AnonGrim> indeed
[19:54] <k1l_> mok: we have a offtopic channel for not-ubuntu-support related talking
[19:55] <mok> k1l_  Seriously it was not Offtopic
[19:55] <mok> it was related Ubuntu
[19:55] <mok> *to
[19:55] <theadmin> mok: Using Ubuntu repositories on any distros other than Ubuntu is not supported, and *will* break your distro.
[19:55] <bish0p_> No, it was related to solaris.
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> MadZarx: subjective on a case by case basis
[19:55] <theadmin> Not to mention using them on non-Linux systems, which just won't work at all
[19:57] <MadZarx> ActionParsnip: right :)
[19:58] <mok> So what kind of terminal you guys prefer other than ubuntu's default terminal
[19:59] <Pici> mok: that would be a great question for our offtopic channel
[19:59] <jpds> mok: terminator.
[19:59] <compdoc> ubuntu's default terminal
[19:59] <MadZarx> Guys I have a problem with my video driver. I have NVIDIA GeForce 5400. When I install the driver I can't use resolutions higher than 1024x768. BUT when I disable the driver, I can use 1280x1024
[20:00] <MadZarx> Is there any problem with my video card or monitor?
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> Mok: guake
[20:00] <reisio> MadZarx: you tell us
[20:01] <MadZarx> reisio: I have tested this with another monitor but it gave me the same result. I have installed the video driver on windows and it works perfectly with the highest resolution
[20:02] <theadmin> MadZarx: How are you installing the driver? Not from NVidia's website I hope?
[20:02] <reisio> MadZarx: what result?
[20:02] <MadZarx> theadmin: I enable the driver from the "Additional Drivers" in Settings. (I use XUbuntu)
[20:02] <theadmin> MadZarx: Ah good, that's one less possible headache
[20:03] <MadZarx> reisio: When I use the driver, it gives me lower resolution than VESA
[20:04] <reisio> MadZarx: so use vesa?
[20:04] <ixio> what do you do if php pages just result in completely blank pages? no errors, just blank?
[20:05] <AnonGrim> look at the code for errors
[20:05] <Jordan_U> MadZarx: Are you sure that when you're not using the proprietary driver you're actually using VESA rather than nouveau (the default driver for Nvidia cards)?
[20:05] <reisio> ixio: .php pages?
[20:05] <ixio> yeah.. <?php echo "hello"; ?>
[20:05] <AnonGrim> or restart apache
[20:06] <ixio> have restared apache
[20:06] <reisio> ixio: with a .php extension?
[20:06] <MadZarx> reisio: VESA drawing is slow specially when using web browsers or moving and resizing the windows :(
[20:06] <ixio> yeah
[20:06] <reisio> MadZarx: don't frown on the internet, lest you want to be confused with a tiny child
[20:06] <reisio> MadZarx: which driver do you want to use, and which res?
[20:06] <reisio> ixio: what's the package, apache2?
[20:07] <ixio> yeah installed apache2, php5
[20:07] <MadZarx> Jordan_U: I'm sure that it activates the driver because the drawing will become really fast. But the resolution is so small and my workspace will be so cramp :(
[20:07] <ixio> a php file with "hello" in it works but not <?php echo "hello"; ?>
[20:07] <MadZarx> reisio: Internet is everything for me ;) I use NVIDIA GeForce GTX 5400
[20:07] <jpds> ixio: libapache2-mod-php5 ?
[20:08] <tsilenzio> hello
[20:08] <Jordan_U> MadZarx: That wasn't my question. My question is, why do you think that when you're *not* using the Nvidia driver, you *are* using VESA?
[20:08] <reisio> tsilenzio: hi
[20:08] <charolastra_> hi, where is the hierachy of included header files defined? i.e. why is stuff from /usr/local/include used befor things form /usr/include?
[20:08] <ixio> installing
[20:08] <reisio> MadZarx: doesn't answer either of my questions
[20:08] <ixio> sorted thanks
[20:09] <MadZarx> Jordan_U so what else is it using? (I think nouveau uses VESA ;) )
[20:10] <Jordan_U> MadZarx: Nouveau does not use VESA.
[20:10] <MadZarx> Jordan_U: really? I didn't know that :O
[20:11] <MadZarx> Jordan_U: so why Nvidia driver gives me 1280x1024 res while it gives me 1024x768 in linux?
[20:11] <Jordan_U> MadZarx: It's a native driver, talking directly to the graphics card. It's just not as fast as the Nvidia driver because there are fewer developers, and little documentation from Nvidia on how their hardware works.
[20:14] <Jordan_U> MadZarx: This page says that it's common, that the nouvea driver is just better at properly detecting resolutions than Nvidia's linux driver. It also suggest a work around: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#Low.2BAC8-Missing_Screen_Resolutions
[20:14] <alquaida> there's nothing to do withaout internet
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> MadZarx: vesa is vesa, nouvea is nouveau
[20:14] <alquaida> i am bored
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> alquaida: how is that related to Ubuntu support?
[20:15] <alquaida> don't know
[20:15] <pdq> heya could someone be so kind as to pastebin their default /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf ? :)
[20:15] <Jordan_U> alquaida: Come be bored in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[20:15] <MadZarx> ActionParsnip: oh okay :)
[20:16] <DalekSec> pdq: greeter-session and user-session are the only ones I didn't add myself.
[20:16] <theadmin> pdq: What Ubuntu version?
[20:16] <MadZarx> Jordan_U: thank you so much for the information :)
[20:16] <pdq> DalekSec: i just need to know the default line for #autologin-user
[20:16] <Jordan_U> MadZarx: You're welcome :)
[20:16] <theadmin> pdq: No default.
[20:17] <pdq> lightdm version 1.9.5
[20:17] <pdq> i need to sed it so need to know exact :]
[20:17] <theadmin> pdq: autologin-user is normally not even present in the file, unless you add it via GUI tools or manually.
[20:18] <pdq> i think it is this but i not want to waste an hour of compiling etc :P #autologin-user=
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Pdq: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[20:19] <pdq> i run my own distro ActionParsnip it says it's name :P based on arch linux
[20:19] <pdq> i useing unity and some ubuntu packages though
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> Pdq: then ask in #arch
[20:20] <pdq> this is a question about the default config file belonging to an ubuntu packge in ubuntu repo
[20:20] <pdq> i had since changed it and not have default value :P
[20:20] <pdq> also i not run arch
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Pdq: but you arent using Ubuntu, so arent supported here
[20:20] <theadmin> pdq: You can grab the package from packages.ubuntu.com and unpack it (use ar)
[20:20] <theadmin> pdq: That will be the best answer :D
[20:20] <pdq> i would rather use ubuntu upstream and prefer to maintain myself
[20:21] <pdq> so you do not aswer easy questions in here hehe?
[20:21] <theadmin> pdq: Well... I can pastebin mine easily, I don't think I changed it
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Pdq: we answer all questions, if they are for ubuntu
[20:21] <theadmin> pdq: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7195890/
[20:21] <pdq> i just need the one line startes with exactly #autologin-user=
[20:21] <DalekSec> pdq: We can't know what Arch changed, or the implimention differences.  Arch doesn't use postinstall scripts, which is what used to create that file.
[20:21] <theadmin> pdq: This is from 12.04 (Precise Pangolin)
[20:21] <pdq> sweet theadmin looking
[20:22] <theadmin> pdq: The thing is... that line is not there in my default file :D
[20:22] <pdq> aha!
[20:22] <theadmin> Oh dear, Prime seems to have messed with this, but anyway it wasn't there in the default either
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> Pdq: by your logic, firefox in any distro is supported here, as ubuntu uses firefox. Right?
[20:23] <pdq> i not come to get support i came to say hi and ask 1 very specific question cause i know is a wealth of knowledgeable folk in here who many happen to use lightdm
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Pdq: no, eaxh distro has it's own support. Many distros use similar packages. Each distro has its own support
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> Pdq: you arent using ubuntu so not supported here. Its that simple
[20:24] <pdq> if i was using arch package i hear ya btu they would laugh at me trying to ask a question about an ubuntu package
[20:24] <pdq> anyways see yas o/
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> Pdq: then ask in #linux
[20:24] <daftykins> my we really do get allsorts don't we.
[20:25] <andy13> whats the default "networkmanager" for kde?
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> andy13: knetworkmanager
[20:26] <andy13> ActionParsnip, Is that a frontend for networkmanager? or a standalone program?#
[20:27] <reisio> I can't imagine it's anything but the former :)
[20:27] <adamcunnington> Hi, has anyone used sox? I can't get my head around the docs
[20:27] <theadmin> andy13: It's a frontend for NM, it's basically the same as nm-applet but implemented with KDE stuff
[20:27] <andy13> aah a frontend.. thanks ActionParsnip
[20:28] <reisio> adamcunnington: rarely
[20:28] <reisio> adamcunnington: what about it
[20:29] <JamDonkey> Hi all
[20:29] <reisio> hi jam
[20:29] <adamcunnington> reisio: I want to cause it to record from my sound card and auto split recordings by silence
[20:29] <reisio> fancy
[20:30] <adamcunnington> reisio: i found this, http://axel668.wordpress.com/2012/01/29/replay-music-style-audio-recording-in-linux-mint-12-and-buntu/ but was looking to better understand it
[20:30] <JamDonkey> I'm trying to get netflix working.. both the netflix-desktop app and in the browser using pipelight both get stuck at 98%, anyone have any ideas? :)
[20:30] <reisio> JamDonkey: try again
[20:30] <JamDonkey> reisio: I've tried multiple times :/
[20:31] <faiss> how can i rename p3p2 to eth0 on saucy?
[20:31] <daftykins> faiss: if you think you need to rename an interface it's highly likely you're doing something wrong
[20:31] <reisio> faiss: what for
[20:31] <theadmin> faiss: You could write an udev rule, but what kind of driver creates "p3p2"? That's a highly unsual device name...
[20:32] <adamcunnington> On a separate note, does anyone know where vbox saves files? I don't really know my way around ubuntu's file system. Where are files normally stored?
[20:32] <reisio> adamcunnington: ~/.VirtualBox, IIRC
[20:32] <adamcunnington> Program / app files that is
[20:32] <adamcunnington> reisio: i mean the actual OS files
[20:32] <faiss> i should rename it into eth0 because i am using a solution that needs the interfaces to be named eth0, and i have no way to change the code into this one
[20:32] <reisio> adamcunnington: which is the convention for any app, ~/.appName
[20:33] <reisio> adamcunnington: within the .vdi files in that dir
[20:33] <reisio> they'll be the largest files
[20:33] <daftykins> adamcunnington: why don't you look in the settings
[20:33] <reisio> faiss: ah
[20:33] <daftykins> or read their documentation
[20:33] <kfee> Hello
[20:33] <adamcunnington> reisio: there is no setting for it
[20:33] <adamcunnington> daftykins: did but couldn't find
[20:33] <faiss> theadmin, the driver is r8168 for realtek
[20:33] <kfee> I have a problem
[20:33] <reisio> faiss: the simplest way is to put net.ifnames=0 into grub.cfg
[20:33] <reisio> adamcunnington: setting?
[20:33] <daftykins> adamcunnington: there most definitely will be a way to choose where to store VMs
[20:34] <kfee> With openssh
[20:34] <reisio> he just wants to get at his data
[20:34] <reisio> he doesn't want to move where it is
[20:34] <reisio> mounting VirtualBox hard disk images is not particularly straightforward
[20:34] <faiss> when checking 70-persistent-net.rules, there is no entry for ethernet card (just the wlan0 entry on the file)
[20:34] <reisio> simpler to use vboxsvr or sshfs or something while it's running
[20:34] <daftykins> reisio: right, so reading where it says the default is would get him off our back :P
[20:34] <reisio> faiss: the simplest way is to put net.ifnames=0 into grub.cfg
[20:34] <reisio> daftykins: but I already told him where it is :p
[20:34] <reisio> he no listen!
[20:34]  * reisio stabs with eggs
[20:35] <daftykins> so don't hassle me with this D:
[20:35] <adamcunnington> I just want a flipping .mp3 file that i've got inside windows to be available in ubuntu
[20:35] <adamcunnington> reisio: ./VirtualBox just contains like 8 log files
[20:35] <jpjacobs> Is it possible to use LVM2 to make snapshots for an existing disk (which should not be repartitioned/ reformatted)
[20:35] <daftykins> adamcunnington: why don't you go and read virtualbox docs then?
[20:35] <kfee> someone has caged users with openssh
[20:35] <adamcunnington> daftykins: have, can't find where it says anywhere
[20:35] <reisio> jpjacobs: just use rdiff-backup
[20:35] <daftykins> adamcunnington: i don't think you've tried hard enough
[20:36] <JamDonkey> I'm trying to get netflix working on ubuntu.. both the netflix-desktop app and in the browser using pipelight both get stuck at 98%, anyone have any ideas? :)
[20:36] <daftykins> you said that a moment ago and you were replied to
[20:36] <daftykins> JamDonkey: are you following a guide or what?
[20:36] <JamDonkey> was just gonna apologise but it's driving me crazy
[20:37] <jpjacobs> reisio: rdiff-backup? does that do sector per sector snapshotting? I'm doing a recovery of a disk with a broken filesystem, but have no space for taking a full image
[20:37] <JamDonkey> daftykins: nah.. but I've checked what I was doing after on them it should all be good
[20:37] <reisio> jpjacobs: :/
[20:38] <reisio> jpjacobs: space is cheap, and you'll need more eventually, so just go get more
[20:38] <adamcunnington> daftykins: i've come here for help in finding a location which is so trivial, why are you being so unhelpful :\? If you don't want to help, you don't have to - but why go out of your way to be unhelpful
[20:38] <daftykins> adamcunnington: i fully disagree with your comment
[20:38] <theadmin> adamcunnington: Could you repeat your question? Sorry, I was out for a bit, I might be able to help
[20:39] <JamDonkey> It's someones TOM me thinks...
[20:40] <adamcunnington> theadmin: all I want to know is where virtualbox stores guest OSs... i just want to access a file that i have within windows (guest) on my ubuntu 12.04 machine
[20:40] <theadmin> adamcunnington: Ah, normally in ~/Virtualbox VMs, by default anyway
[20:40] <adamcunnington> theadmin: there are no files there except for log files
[20:41] <theadmin> adamcunnington: Huh. Open Virtualbox and go File -> Virtual Media Manager then
[20:41] <theadmin> adamcunnington: That'll have a list of all virtual storage, you can find it from there most likely
[20:41] <adamcunnington> theadmin: http://imgur.com/HKPmnBm
[20:42] <daftykins> that's ".virtualbox" not "virtualbox VMs"
[20:42] <theadmin> adamcunnington: Nah, that's .Virtualbox, I am talking about a different directory, called, "Virtualbox VMs", it's not hidden and is normally in your home
[20:42] <reisio> virtualbox vms is where it is on windows :p
[20:43] <sombuddy> VB rox
[20:43] <adamcunnington> theadmin: yea but there is just a .vdi file, i want the actual operating system files
[20:43] <reisio> ls -a ~/ | grep -i virtualbox
[20:43] <reisio> adamcunnington: they're within the .vdi file
[20:43] <reisio> adamcunnington: as I already said
[20:43] <bekks> adamcunnington: Forget that, you cant mount the vdi.
[20:43] <theadmin> adamcunnington: Uh. The .vdi is a virtual HD image, all the files of the guest are there.
[20:43] <reisio> you _can_ mount the vdi
[20:43] <reisio> but it's not dead simple
[20:43] <adamcunnington> Right
[20:43] <reisio> it's much simpler to start the vm and copy them over the network
[20:43] <adamcunnington> so why did no one tell me this 10 minutes ago? There was me thinking I could just browse to a file within windows
[20:43] <reisio> adamcunnington: uh, I did
[20:44] <reisio> over and over
[20:44] <daftykins> adamcunnington: because we spoke about reading the docs and you said you did
[20:44] <jpjacobs> hmm someone familiar with LVM? I'd like to build an LVM set ontop of an existing disk (if possible)
[20:44] <theadmin> adamcunnington: If the VM still boots, just give it a shared folder and copy the file from the VM to your host
[20:44] <adamcunnington> reisio: You were talking about mounting, i had no idea what you were on about
[20:44] <reisio> even now you appear to be ignoring us :p you are cute
[20:44] <daftykins> adamcunnington: when you don't understand something you need to ask
[20:44] <adamcunnington> daftykins: i read and didn't understand - but there is clearly no tolerance for beginners
[20:44] <daftykins> adamcunnington: because you've been hiding from us your experience level
[20:44] <adamcunnington> daftykins: you're pretty hostile, kind of not very approachable, didn't really want to ask you anything if i'm honest
[20:44] <reisio> we just don't read minds is all
[20:44] <reisio> especially when you have cotton in your ears :)
[20:44] <daftykins> adamcunnington: no need to make it personal
[20:45] <adamcunnington> daftykins: you did that your second or third statement
[20:45] <reisio> anyways...
[20:45] <theadmin> adamcunnington: Anyway, if the VM still boots and has guest additions installed, boot it, go to Devices -> Shared Folder Settings, give it a shared folder and then copy the files you want there
[20:45] <adamcunnington> whatever. Thanks anyway, i'll just jump into the vm and copy the file
[20:45] <reisio> you appear to understand what we have told you at this point
[20:45] <reisio> so objective complete
[20:45] <adamcunnington> theadmin: yea, i've got a shared folder all setup, i'll do that, thanks
[20:45] <theadmin> adamcunnington: Good :)
[20:46] <adamcunnington> cheers bye
[20:46] <daftykins> he had shared folders setup this whole time?
[20:46] <daftykins> wtf.
[20:46] <iam_> greetings
[20:46] <theadmin> ...indeed. I thought the OS didn't boot or something and he had important data lol, oh well
[20:47] <reisio> iam_: heyo
[20:47] <reisio> not sure why you thought that :p
[20:47] <iam_> just got a wd red, hooked it up externally but it cannot be seen in gpart just disks
[20:48] <bekks> iam_: What does "just disks" mean in this context?
[20:48] <SchrodingersScat> gnome disk utility?
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> iam_: if you run: sudo fdisk -l ,do you see the partitions? When you last unplugged the device did you safe remove the device in the OS before physically unplugging it?
[20:49] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: a WD Red is a mechanical HDD
[20:49] <iam_> one sec
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: ok so an internal drive screwed into the chassis?
[20:50] <theadmin> bekks: He probably means the Gnome Disk Utility, which was awkwardly renamed "Disks" in the latest releases
[20:50] <reisio> theadmin: classic gnome :p
[20:50] <bekks> theadmin: Hmm. Never used that. :)
[20:51] <theadmin> bekks: It's just another partition manager, somewhat reminds me of the OS X "Disk Utility" (go figure)
[20:52] <bekks> theadmin: Never used things like that :P
[20:52] <theadmin> bekks: Makes sense ;)
[20:52] <reisio> yes, GNOME ever wants to be Mac OS
[20:52] <daftykins> just focus on getting the guy to pastebin fdisk -l
[20:52] <reisio> the main GNOME guy even gave up and went back to Mac OS
[20:52] <daftykins> seems like that'll be the winner
[20:52] <reisio> what a goof
[20:52] <reisio> when it was finally almost as silly as Mac OS, he just gives up :p
[20:52] <daftykins> so offtopic reisio ;_;
[20:53] <daftykins> hf all i'm off for now
[20:53] <gmachine_24> greetings earthlings. anyone know of a cli program to import video from dvi video camera... I think I mean dvi... one of the old tape ones; looking for a program that can import at greater than play speed. thank you.
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> Reisio: gnome shell (the official shell for gnome) looks nothing like MacOS
[20:54] <adamcunnington> So, I'm a complete linux newbie and I've just created a bash script called record.sh and it's inside my music folder
[20:54] <adamcunnington> i cd to that music folder and i want to execute the file so i just type record.sh
[20:54] <adamcunnington> record.sh command not found
[20:54] <scottyarwood> how can I add oracle JDK to my open with options?
[20:55] <adamcunnington> sudo record
[20:55] <wiredfool> adamcunnington: try ./record.sh
[20:55] <reisio> ActionParsnip: don't be absurd, it looks just like it, that's its whole purpose
[20:55] <theadmin> adamcunnington: Short answer - type "./record.sh"
[20:55] <Jordan_U> gmachine_24: Does your camera support outputing the video faster than 1X?
[20:55] <reisio> scottyarwood: no doubt from nautilus' menu somewhere
[20:55] <qin> adamcunnington: please dont use sudo, like at all
[20:55] <theadmin> adamcunnington: Long answer - bash searches the $PATH variable for commands, if it's not there you need to type either the full or the relative path to the file.
[20:56] <wiredfool>  openssl question -- when I start a ssl enabled server @ boot, it starts quickly, and reads 32 bytes from /dev/urandom. Some time later, I get htis from dmesg: [   99.783379] random: nonblocking pool is initialized. This sounds very sketchy
[20:56] <adamcunnington> theadmin: i got permission denied, i tried it with sudo and i got command not found
[20:56] <theadmin> adamcunnington: then you need to make the file executable: chmod +x record.sh
[20:56] <theadmin> adamcunnington: ...or just feed it to bash: bash record.sh
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> reisio: not really. Dock on the left for favourites, list of apps showing all apps. Mac uses the dock on the bottom for everything
[20:57] <lenny> Hello, When I try to use enigmail to sign my e-mails it gives me "Error - bad passphrase", When I try to clear saved passphrase it says it uses gpg-agent for passphrase handling. But I have no saved passwords (that I know of). What do?
[20:57] <scottyarwood> what would I do in nautilus to add oracle jdk to my open with options though?
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> adamcunnington: the file extension doesnt make it an excutable script. This isnt windows. You can remove the extension and it will be the same
[20:57] <Jordan_U> gmachine_24: I ask because I seem to remember that the answer is always "no" for tape based DV cameras, so the capturing software can're really change that.
[20:59] <[Gentoo]> adamcunnington: make sure the script is actually there with ls -a
[20:59] <[Gentoo]> also chmod +x on it
[20:59] <rcampbel3> scottyarwood: I think you want to start with: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[20:59] <theadmin> scottyarwood: The gnome team recently went crazy (as you may know) so you no longer *can* add custom commands via the nautilus GUI at all, instead use the terminal: mimeopen -d /path/to/file will let you set the default command for opening all files of the same type as the /path/to/file
[21:01] <scottyarwood> theadmin: So, if I want to set it to open jar files what would I do?
[21:01] <theadmin> scottyarwood: Basically, mimeopen -d /path/to/something.jar and then choose "other", finally type in "java -jar" as the command
[21:01] <theadmin> scottyarwood: That will update the defaults so you'll be good
[21:01] <rcampbel3> or simply use a terminal and type 'java -jar $filename' :)
[21:02] <theadmin> rcampbel3: That won't set the Nautilus default though
[21:02] <theadmin> It is odd, though, if you have Java installed it should automatically set the defaults for *.jar and *.jnlp
[21:02] <rcampbel3> I wasn't aware that gnome/nautilus can't configure "open with..." anymore. That's ridiculous.
[21:03] <xangua> rcampbel3: really?
[21:03] <theadmin> rcampbel3: It is. The Ubuntu team are patching many features back into Nautilus though so that will be back in 14.04, as well as many other features that the GNOME team suddenly removed
[21:03] <scottyarwood> theadmin: Thanks! The mimeopen -d /path/to/something.jar thing worked!
[21:04] <scottyarwood> bye
[21:04] <theadmin> xangua: Yeah, in 13.04/13.10 at least you can't, need to do crazy stuff via CLI like that
[21:04] <ixio> when do you use git clone vs pull ?
[21:04] <theadmin> ixio: git clone when you first create a local copy of a remote repo, git pull when you just want to update it to the latest version
[21:04] <Jordan_U> gmachine_24: dvgrab is a terminal based solution, but no option for faster than 1X capture (as that seems impossible).
[21:05] <ixio> ok thanks, and is it feasible to use git to download a website which a dev has created and then update it using pull ?
[21:06] <theadmin> ixio: Uh, as long as that website is in a git repository and doesn't have huge files (like movies or such)
[21:06] <ixio> yeah.. so I just clone it to my public html area?
[21:06] <ixio> make a vhost which points at it
[21:06] <adamcunnington> Does anyone know how to make sox a recording device? I am following the guide here, http://axel668.wordpress.com/2012/01/29/replay-music-style-audio-recording-in-linux-mint-12-and-buntu/ but I've just tested it and it's not splitting / auto-stopping recording and i just inspected the file and discovered that there is no audio, so it must not be able to record from my sound card
[21:06] <ixio> done ?
[21:06] <theadmin> ixio: Can do so yeah
[21:06] <ixio> ok cooll
[21:06] <gmachine_24> Jordan_U: wasn't ignoring you - am @ sbux and was awk; the thing about the video camera is I'm sure I, once upon a time, used a program that was able to import faster than 1x. Thought it was Kino but it seems I'm mistaken.
[21:06] <reisio> ActionParsnip: nope, it has it on the left for ages since their screens got huger
[21:07] <reisio> but even if it hadn't, the difference would be negligible
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> reisio: so you comparison to mac is that it has a dock?
[21:08] <ixio> I have the URL of the git repo... https://github.com/company/installs....... how do I translate this to a git clone command ?
[21:08] <reisio> ActionParsnip: that was your comparison
[21:09] <Jordan_U> gmachine_24: There are programs that let you sort of preview what you want to capture by telling the camera to fast forward (which skips frames), so you quickly decide what you want captured and it then goes back and only captures those time frames (fast forwarding through others). You could technically capture what the camera outputs when fast forwarding, but again that would skip frames.
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> reisio: ok, how else is it like mac?
[21:10] <Jordan_U> ixio: git clone URL
[21:10] <ixio> ok I need to authenticate too
[21:10] <reisio> ActionParsnip: in every way
[21:10] <gmachine_24> Jordan-U: yeah....... I've searched but been unable to find a program that does what I want so perhaps I was hallucinating
[21:10] <ixio> im trying git clone https://user:pass@url
[21:10] <ixio> but complaining about resolution
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> reisio: hardly specific.....
[21:10] <Jordan_U> ixio: github's web interface should tell you what git command to use.
[21:11] <reisio> ActionParsnip: indeed
[21:11] <ixio> oh so it does thanks
[21:11] <reisio> why be specific when it's so overwhelming
[21:15] <theadmin> ixio: You don't need to authenicate to clone a repo (unless it's private)
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> reisio: with that vagueness Mac is just like Xero Alto
[21:19] <reisio> ActionParsnip: uhuh, yup
[21:20] <jm123> question number two of the evening, why is it that when I want to login to ubuntu 13.10 that after accepting my password the screen goes black for a few seconds, then makes the ubuntu login sound and again prompts me to login?
[21:20] <adamcunnington> Can anyone help with sox? I want to use it to record soundcard output and I'm struggling to get it to work
[21:20] <reisio> jm123: sounds like whatever wm/DE you're trying to load is failing to
[21:20] <jm123> it's unity.
[21:21] <Jordan_U> jm123: So you're completely unable to login graphically?
[21:21] <jm123> that's the weird part. i'm actually in the guest login right now typing this on firefox.
[21:21] <jm123> so i don't understand.
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> Jm123: drop to TTY1 and run: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[21:22] <Jordan_U> jm123: There is something about your user's settings that is causing Unity to immediately crash (Unity exiting is equivalent to logging out).
[21:22] <reisio> jm123: you might try moving ~/.cache elsewhere
[21:22] <Jordan_U> jm123: Do not run ActionParsnip's command yet!
[21:22] <reisio> I would not do what ActionParsnip said until I was sure that was the issue :/
[21:22] <reisio> agreed
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> jm123: then reboot, also make sure your partitions have free space
[21:23] <jm123> so the consensus is to try moving ~/.cache?
[21:23] <reisio> jm123: I'd try that first
[21:23] <reisio> jm123: followed by ~/.config
[21:23] <Quintasan> Hi, is there any way to make sure which way the data is mirrored in RAID1? Currently I have /dev/md1 (RAID1) with only one disk which contains my data, today I have created /dev/md0 which is RAID0 made out of two 1TB disks, can I just add /dev/md0 to the /dev/md1 array as a device and the data won't get overwritten?
[21:23] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: While most people don't have files with other ownership than me:me in their home directory, it is reasonable for them to exist. Especially files with a different group. chown -R will lose that information, so it's not even easily reversable.
[21:23] <reisio> I don't know, most people probably do
[21:23] <reisio> whether they mean to or not
[21:24] <jm123> I was actually messing with some chown commands trying to get a gpg to work. the file was ~/.gnupg?
[21:24] <reisio> jm123: just before things broke, you mean?
[21:25] <jm123> It wasn't just before I broke. I messed with those permissions, shutdown, turned the computer on, messed with the display settings to get my second monitor to work, rebooted and now have this issue.
[21:25] <jm123> it was either messing with the files or messing with the monitor that did it.
[21:26] <reisio> I doubt it was ~/.gnupg, but it could've been something else
[21:26] <reisio> anyways, temporarily moving ~/.cache and/or ~/.config to see if it's something in one of those dirs are simple tests
[21:26] <reisio> you can always put them back
[21:26] <jm123> okay, so i'm inexperienced with the terminal, but i could theoretically access those files from my guest login? or are those permissions not granted?
[21:27] <reisio> su - youruser
[21:27] <reisio> from guest
[21:27] <reisio> or CTRL+ALT+F2 and login as whomever
[21:27] <reisio> +F7 to get back to X
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> jm123: if you run: df -h ,are any partitions full(ish)
[21:29] <jm12> Okay, getting into tty wasn't successful. when pressing ctrl+alt+F2 my screen went blank.
[21:29] <jm12> I'll have to use the terminal route.
[21:31] <ixio> so this web application gives an error, Mcrypt PHP extension required, but php5-mcrypt is installed.. one thing I have noticed is that in phpinfo it lists mcrypt as a little row "mcrypt  Sascha Schumann, Derick Rethans" rather than a whole subsection.. any idea whats needed?
[21:31] <jm12> I lost the chat, so to confirm, the files i need to move are ~/.cache and ~/.config
[21:34] <nmvictor> hi guys, whats the channel for linux mint?
[21:34] <osmosis_> so I forgot my user login pass. I have the encrypted home folder code. How do I recover?
[21:35] <nmvictor> hi guys, whats the channel for linux mint?
[21:35] <qin> !mint
[21:35] <nmvictor> I need some help in linux mint
[21:36] <nmvictor> c'mon guys, anyone know how I cn join Linux mint channel?
[21:36] <reisio> nmvictor: the main channel is on spotchat IIRC
[21:36] <reisio> nmvictor: /msg alis list *lin*mint* will probably say
[21:36] <nmvictor> reisio: thanks alot
[21:36] <geirha> or see what ubottu told you
[21:36] <reisio> oh qin said :p
[21:37] <qin> Yeah, we both hate to be ignored...
[21:38] <reisio> maybe he's just a slow reader :p
[21:45] <Dark_Hunter> so my wifi was working durning the live cd setup now after the boot its not there anymore
[21:46] <Dark_Hunter> and the software center keeps crasking
[21:47] <Beldar> Dark_Hunter, lspci in the terminal gives a hardware list tell us the wifi info.
[21:48] <Dark_Hunter> one sec
[21:58] <Dark_Hunter> Beldar http://pastebin.com/yLZ23xxF
[22:01] <Dark_Hunter> Beldar?
[22:01] <Dark_Hunter> 02:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[22:02] <Beldar> Dark_Hunter, Ah thanks I was looking for the channel to see it. I am looking on askubuntu with AR9485 and I see, http://askubuntu.com/search?q=AR9485
[22:07] <ckindley> Hi all. Question about PXE booting and NFSv4. I'm running a Gentoo server that will host a pxe-booted Ubuntu lab. My clients connect, load the bzImage and initrd, and then flood the terminal with something like:
[22:07] <ckindley> "Retrying NFS mount... begin: running /scripts/nfs-premount ... done. connect: connection refused"
[22:07] <Dark_Hunter> Beldar that link doesnt really help as most of them havent been asnwered yet
[22:08] <ckindley> Then the clients drop to busybox. I cannot mount the NFS shares from busybox either, using "mount -t nfs <server IP>:/ubuntu /" which gives " RPC: Remote system error - connection refused"
[22:08] <ckindley> The shares mount fine from the original ubuntu client I cp'ed the root fs from, as well as from my own laptop, on the same subnet
[22:09] <Jordan_U> ckindley: Does the initramfs contain everything required for mounting NFS shares?
[22:09] <TarantulaFudge> hey guys I've got kind of an annoying problem, how can I set driver options without defining my xorg.conf? I've tried adding device entries to xorg.conf.d but it totally freaks out
[22:10] <ckindley> Jordan_U: I was worried it didn't have NFSv4 support, but lsinitramfs /initrd.img | grep nfs indicates it does
[22:10] <ckindley> (includes nfsv4.ko in the output)
[22:10] <ckindley> I'm not certain that's everything it will need though.
[22:12] <betz1> Hi. I am following this guide on setting up a nfs export, but on the client i get a 'ls: cannot open directory .: Stale NFS file handle' error. I reboot the server and client, still the same. What could this be?
[22:12] <Jordan_U> ckindley: And you're sure that you're running an identical mount command on the original client and in the initramfs shell?
[22:12] <LinuxBro> betz1: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/nfs-stale-file-handle-error-and-solution.html
[22:15] <JanSch_> hi, I am running a TOR node on ubuntu 13.04, and it fails to start at boot because the ipv6 of the interface is apparently not initialized before it gets started. how can I fix that?
[22:16] <LinuxBro> JanSch_: It's initializing, but too late?
[22:16] <Dark_Hunter> resoved :S
[22:16] <JanSch_> LinuxBro: I guess so. When I SSH into the box and start it, it works
[22:16] <ckindley> Jordan_U: yes, except that on the original client I am unwilling to mount to / and mount to /mnt instead :)
[22:16] <fhenning09> Q: How do I fix a macbook touchpad something was done to settings by my mom; I 'm used to two fing touch right click he didn't know and now you can't left click on anything twice to run
[22:16] <betz1> LinuxBro: manually unmounting doesn't work, 'device is busy' is response. Rebooting the machine is no solution
[22:17] <fhenning09> Everything in touchpaad settings looks the same as on mine and works but her user is the prob
[22:18] <LinuxBro> JanSch_: What are you using to start TOR at boot?
[22:18] <JanSch_> the default startup script
[22:18] <JanSch_> I just installed it via apt-get from the torproject repo, as they recommend
[22:19] <LinuxBro> JanSch_: So the script is in init.d?
[22:19] <JanSch_> yes, wait a sec, someone in #tor just sent me a link to a bug
[22:19] <LinuxBro> JanSch_: K
[22:20] <Jordan_U> ckindley: What happens if you telnet to the appropriate port from within the initramfs shell? Same as from the original client?
[22:21] <LinuxBro> betz1: What did you use to unmount? did you use unmount, or unmount -l?
[22:22] <betz1> LinuxBro: sorry, i was in the mount folder. I followed exactly the link you send, no luck
[22:23] <betz1> the stale error is when files did move, are deleted or something, but i have only this error
[22:23] <LinuxBro> betz1: try unmount -l instead of -f
[22:24] <cornfeedhobo> is there a decent RDP client that can enforce my keyboard layout?
[22:24] <cornfeedhobo> remmina doesnt do it
[22:24] <BlackDeath> hi every one.. i'm after some drivers advice... if i can get drivers in other nix distro's they should be compatible once i get past the package instal isues?
[22:24] <betz1> LinuxBro: unmounting is not the problem
[22:26] <qin> LinuxBro: should it not be umount?
[22:27] <LinuxBro> qin: Yeah, my bad lol
[22:27] <JanSch_> LinuxBro, looks like they figured it out. see the following links:
[22:27] <JanSch_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+bug/1207384
[22:27] <qin> betz1:
[22:27] <JanSch_> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=718507
[22:28] <JanSch_> https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/beware_the_ipv6_dad_race_condition
[22:28] <JanSch_> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=705996
[22:28] <JanSch_> LinuxBro: the last one is probably the bug that really causes it
[22:29] <LinuxBro> JanSch_: Thanks, I'll take a peek at those, so your all good?
[22:29] <ckindley> Jordan_U: Trying to find a good way to test, the busybox instance doesn't have telnet (?!)
[22:29] <JanSch_> I hope so, if not, I'll assume it's some other kind of bug and implement an ugly but likely working workaround
[22:29] <JanSch_> LinuxBro: thanks!
[22:29] <qin> BlackDeath: even if, that would be likely to be not suported here, what driver you had in mind?
[22:30] <LinuxBro> JanSch_: I was going to say, worst case scenario, just write a short bash script that calls the start script and add a delay
[22:30] <JanSch_> LinuxBro: I thought more about binding on 0.0.0.0 and :: and announcing the real address to the directories, which tor luckily supports
[22:38] <ckindley> Jordan_U: and anyone else who will listen... my initrd did  not even include /scripts/nfs-premount... bizarre.
[22:39] <roasted> hello friends. Does anybody know if there's a way to trigger deja dup to only run when connected to a certain ssid?
[22:43] <qin> Why would chromium look into ~/.mozilla? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7196371/
[22:48] <Anuska> Hi, what version of ubuntu recomanded me?
[22:48] <Anuska> i have 8gb ram
[22:48] <Anuska> desktop
[22:48] <qin> Anuska: 64bit
[22:48] <Anuska> 13.04 ?
[22:49] <BlackDeath> qin, i bought a 2nd hand ibm x366 and the website have multiple distro linux drivers but not debian or ubuntu... was just hoping that the'd still work if i installed them anyways
[22:49] <qin> Anuska: 13.04 is not longer suppoted, 13.10 is, 14.04 soon will be.
[22:49] <Anuska> and what version i need to install?
[22:50] <qin> Anuska: 13.10 64bit should be ok for you
[22:51] <ckindley> I'm wondering if my NFS netboot issue has something to do with permissions on my share.
[22:53] <yeats> ckindley: you should be able to see evidence of that in the logs
[22:54] <Anuska> qin, about http://mirror.arlug.ro/pub/ubuntu/ubuntu-releases//trusty/ubuntu-14.04-beta2-desktop-amd64.iso ?
[22:57] <qin> Sure, just to be sure, what cpu do you have?
[22:57] <Anuska> Intel
[22:58] <qin> Anuska: ok, what model?
[22:58] <ckindley> yeats: On the server, I imagine? Logs don't say much about NFS at all... What might I include in a systemd unit file to help with that?
[22:58] <Anuska> Xenon
[22:58] <Anuska> i think..
[22:59] <ckindley> yeats: I also was having trouble on the original client with actually mounting the share. Mount takes about 10 seconds, unless I have a running rpc.gssd instance. The server does not require kerberos auth.
[22:59] <ckindley> yeats: however from my own (Gentoo) laptop, this problem has never occurred
[23:00] <ckindley> yeats: I'm going to test a more appropriate setting of idmapd domain
[23:01] <Brivelt> Hello, can somone help me to find out why my cpu is using 100% all the time?
[23:02] <ckindley> Brivelt: Pop open a terminal and run 'top'
[23:02] <ckindley> Brivelt: It should auto-sort by CPU, so you can get an idea of which process is the naughty one
[23:03] <Brivelt> ckindley: That's what I did and sort it on cpu/stats with 't' but the highest used cpu is 1, all other processes are '0'
[23:04] <Brivelt> I'm stuck on this for 2 weeks now
[23:05] <Brivelt> http://pastebin.com/Tyqix7eW
[23:05] <ckindley> Brivelt: Hm, ok. Let's see.
[23:06] <ckindley> Brivelt: Load average is super low, what's reporting high CPU usage?
[23:06] <Brivelt> Observium, my monitoring software
[23:08] <Brivelt> see screenshot: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1arq4hmoavhp5t9/Screenshot%202014-04-03%2001.08.22.png
[23:21] <dcope> hey all
[23:21] <Scrivener> So I installed Ubuntu 14.04 Beta 2 on my desktop - booted up for the first time, received everything I should've. It was running Nouveau drivers for my dual-GTX 670 system, so I went to download Nvidia proprietary drivers. That seems to go just fine. I open Nvidia control panel, select Xinerama (for multiple displays, of which I have 2), and save to X config and restart.
[23:22] <dcope> i have a dedicated server with two 1 Gbps interfaces. why would my bandwidth be getting throttled at just over 1 Gbps?
[23:22] <Scrivener> Now when I boot in, I am able to log in properly, but after that point I see only my cursor and a background.
[23:22] <Scrivener> There is no Unity interface, and I cannot seem to perform any other functions. Ctrl Alt T does not bring up a terminal window.
[23:23] <Scrivener> What can I do to get Unity/graphical functionality back?
[23:24] <Scrivener> I've accessed the command line with ctrl-alt-F1
[23:26] <Beldar> Scrivener, 14.04 is on #ubuntu+1
[23:26] <Scrivener> Ah, sorry.
[23:26] <dcope> is there some sort of built in throttling enabled by default on ubu?
[23:26] <Scrivener> Will go there then, though I think this might be applicable across versions.
[23:27] <Beldar> Scrivener, May be but that is the development channel. ;)
[23:27] <Beldar> dcope, Net download?
[23:28] <Scrivener> Beldar, asking them if it's cool to seek support there.
[23:28] <dcope> Beldar: ?
[23:28] <Beldar> !14.04 | Scrivener So you feel welcome
[23:29] <Beldar> !details | dcope,
[23:29] <dcope> Beldar: i have a deciated server. the machine has 2, 1 Gbps interfaces. whenever bandwidth exceeds 1 Gbps it gets throttled and downloads are very slow from nginx & sftp.
[23:30] <Beldar> dcope, Ah, not sure myself, thanks for the info though that helps greatly.
[23:31] <Beldar> dcope, My internet carrier has a throttle, yours does I would assume.
[23:31] <ojrgpoare> wtf. i dont run ubuntu
[23:31] <ojrgpoare> damn auto compiled versions. mwhaha. wait !
[23:32] <ojrgpoare> haha. wattup blade runner
[23:32] <ojrgpoare> automatic sock puppets
[23:32] <ahoneybun_> hello all
[23:32] <ojrgpoare> military industrial complex
[23:33] <ojrgpoare> but which nation. or have they all folded
[23:33] <ojrgpoare> wassup honey pot
[23:33] <ahoneybun_> nice polari works
[23:34] <ojrgpoare> yes. how are your overlords today ?
[23:34] <ojrgpoare> sorry official ubuntu support channel
[23:51] <Anuska> How i install classic gnome?
[23:52] <estudiante> nikobolso
[23:52] <Beldar> Anuska, What ubuntu release
[23:52] <Anuska> 14.04
[23:53] <rww> --> #ubuntu+1
[23:53] <Anuska> i resolve
[23:53] <ShawnRisk> How  do I fix my right click on touchpad for laptop as originally only clicked crazy double click which was annoying as I couldn't get this to work properly at all.  I changed settings based on: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1388164&p=8816327#post8816327
[23:54] <Anuska> what is that channel?