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douglxserver-xorg-video-all : Depends: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau but it is not installed - I installed nvidia drivers, how can I remove xserver-xorg-video-all ?02:04
douglerr can I02:05
dougl?02:05
Riddelldougl: no X experts here, try asking in #kubuntu, #ubuntu or #ubuntu-x02:08
douglRiddell, thanks :)02:18
kubotu::runtime-bugs:: [1298951] kwalletd crashed with SIGABRT in __GI_raise() @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1298951 (by Gustavo Boksar)03:57
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Kalidarnbtw that issue with the device manager is still in KDE 4.12.9704:58
Kalidarnis there some reason we are not using KDE 4.13 and are using betas of it?05:04
Kalidarni was under the assumption KDE 4.12.X were betas of of KDE 4.1305:05
jussiKalidarn: isnt 4.13 planned for release next week? 05:10
jussihttp://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.13_Release_Schedule05:10
Kalidarni was sure it was already released05:11
Kalidarnwas sure i was using it in 3.10 with the backports kubuntu ppa05:11
Kalidarni might have been imagining things05:11
Kalidarnif you have a phone or tablet05:12
Kalidarnwhen you plug it in do you see blank entries in the device manager05:12
Kalidarnor in dolphin05:12
Kalidarni seem to with my nexus 5/nexus 705:12
Kalidarnthey all seem to point to camera:05:12
Kalidarni imagine this bug occurs with any type of phone or tablet05:14
jussiKalidarn: I think we talked about this the other day, no? 05:17
jussidid you try changing the desktop theme? 05:17
Kalidarnyes we did05:19
Kalidarnand it's not the desktop theme (using oxygen at the moment)05:19
Kalidarnbut same issue with air05:19
jussiKalidarn: I dont know then - it works here on both 14.04 and 13.10  w/backports05:19
Kalidarnthe devices also appear blank in dolphin05:19
jussiKalidarn: have you checked that you have it in the correct mode on the tablet/phone? 05:20
jussiie. the storage one, not the camera one? 05:20
Kalidarnall i see in dmesg is05:21
Kalidarn[ 4884.740116] usb 1-4: new high-speed USB device number 13 using ehci-pci05:21
Kalidarn[ 4884.873358] usb 1-4: New USB device found, idVendor=18d1, idProduct=4ee205:21
Kalidarn[ 4884.873363] usb 1-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=305:21
Kalidarn[ 4884.873366] usb 1-4: Product: Nexus 505:21
Kalidarn[ 4884.873368] usb 1-4: Manufacturer: LGE05:21
Kalidarn[ 4884.873371] usb 1-4: SerialNumber: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx05:21
Kalidarnoops :P05:21
Kalidarnall 3 seem to open to camera: 305:22
Kalidarncamera:05:22
Kalidarnhttp://i.imgur.com/x1rTKFv.png05:24
Kalidarnlooks really ugly and i'd like to try to find out what is causing it so it can be fixed for final release05:24
Kalidarnnever happened with 3.1005:24
Kalidarnunfortunately i don't know what's causing it05:25
jussiKalidarn: so did you check the device setting, as I mentioned?05:26
Kalidarnwhich one?05:26
Kalidarni might have missed that05:26
jussimtp/camera05:26
valorieinteresting: my htc one phone has two devices reported: camera, and then the phone05:26
Kalidarnjussi: how do i check it?05:27
valoriebut no blanks05:27
Kalidarnthey both seem to open up to the same place05:27
Kalidarnthe named one opens up to mtp: > Nexus 505:28
Kalidarnthe un named ones open up to Camera:05:28
Kalidarnand inside camera: there's a directory called "Google Inc (for LG Electronics/Samsung) Nexus 4/5/6/10 (MTP+ADB)05:29
Kalidarnwith a store_000100001 directory in it05:29
jussiKalidarn: when you connect the device, it should have a usb icon on the device pulldown. touch it, then choose mtp05:29
Kalidarnthat seems to contain two text files about.txt and summary.txt05:29
Kalidarnjussi: i'm unsure what you mean05:30
jussiKalidarn: plug in the usb. what appears in top corner of the nexus 5 screen05:31
Kalidarnoh05:31
Kalidarnyep05:31
Kalidarnhmm05:31
Kalidarnone of the hidden things went away when i disabled usb debugging ;)05:31
jussipull down, click, make sure ownly mtp is selected05:31
Kalidarnah yes MTP is only checked05:32
KalidarnPTP is not05:32
Kalidarnafter disabling usb debugging though it now only shows one blank entry05:32
Kalidarnthe named one "Nexus 5" shows mtp: > Nexus 5 in dolphin05:33
Kalidarnand then a drive called "Internal Storage"05:33
Kalidarnthat directs to /sdcard/05:33
Kalidarnthe blank looking one (which there's only 1 of now) shows camera: and shows the "Google Inc (for LG Electronics/Samsung) Nexus 4/5/6/10 (MTP+ADB)" directory05:34
jussiKalidarn: I suspect its a developer mode somethign05:35
Kalidarnpossibly.05:36
Kalidarni disabled developer mode completely and it still shows a blank one05:36
* jussi goes back to work05:37
jussiapachelogger: http://sessellift.wordpress.com/2014/04/02/choose-your-own-experience-this-time-its-for-real/ - see, this is what I was talking about in Munich :D05:45
jussimind, was funny that they first put it as april fools joke, then made a real one05:46
lordievaderGood morning.06:39
apacheloggerjussi: that'd be in voilation of our own UX practises06:57
apacheloggernamely the "dont-get-in-the-way-of-the-user" one06:57
jussi:(06:57
apacheloggershadeslayer: it would appear to me that we need an explicit dep from whatever contains startkde to qdbus-qt4 | qdbus-qt508:01
apacheloggeror not08:02
apacheloggerit's still fishy08:02
jussiwho here was using kmail on 13.10 ?08:02
apacheloggerfor some reason I had qt5-default but not qdbus-qt5 installed08:02
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shadeslayerapachelogger: nothing depends on qdbus-qt508:56
apacheloggeryeah08:57
apacheloggerwouldn't have helped anyway if it's either or08:57
apacheloggeryou still can have the default config installed for qt5 but no qdbus-qt508:57
apacheloggerso it will qtchoose 5 but there is no binary there and then boom08:58
ghostcubeo.O http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY1MzA   linus getting pissed eh?09:03
apacheloggerhigh quality article, complete with typo and everything09:04
ghostcubedont be always so negativ apachelogger :D09:06
apacheloggerbut it is the truth09:06
ghostcubeit is but the copy and paste parts are funny09:07
apachelogger*shrug*09:08
apacheloggeralways with the drama.09:08
shadeslayerhi09:09
shadeslayermorning09:09
shadeslayerforgot those two ^^ :P09:09
ghostcube:D09:11
Mamarokand mu0on still buggy, it again doesn't show a single package when filtering in the "All" part, and the xapian is up-to-date...09:37
Mamarokalso, baloo-something is crashing repeatedly and now kde pim doesn't start anymore09:37
Mamarokand it doesn't update my notes, which luckily I completely backed up before re-trying Kontact...09:38
Mamarokbut right now I can't access them because of kontact...09:38
Mamarokwhich sucks big time, I rely on these notes09:38
vHandaMamarok: backtrace?09:39
vHandafor baloo09:39
MamarokvHanda: sent by apport to launchpad, repeatedly the bug there already exists with multiple dupes09:40
vHandacould I have a link? It's probably been fixed, but just to be sure.09:40
* apachelogger suspects that baloo is not watched by kubuntu-bugs09:40
* apachelogger suspects that if that is the case someone will get pissed off09:40
Mamarokoh well, I have to digg that up apparently, can't you look in launchpad? Same effort09:41
vHandanevermind.09:41
apacheloggerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/baloo09:41
vHandacool. Thanks. Fixed.09:42
apacheloggeroh09:44
apacheloggerthere's more09:44
apacheloggermarked private09:44
apacheloggermost pointless feature in the world09:44
Mamarokwhy are thioes marked private? That is stupid09:44
Mamarokcan't that be turned off by default for all our bugs09:44
Mamarok?09:45
apachelogger sudo baloo_file_extractor crashed with SIGSEGV in getint2() 09:45
apacheloggergee09:45
Mamarokyep, that bug09:45
apacheloggervHanda: bug 130174209:45
ubottubug 1301742 in baloo (Ubuntu) "baloo_file_extractor crashed with SIGSEGV in size()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130174209:45
apacheloggerMamarok: apport randomly marks bugs private or maybe it's the reporters09:45
apacheloggerno clue09:45
Mamarokalso I am happy to mention that I had my HD filled up again with baloo, such a change from nepomuk09:45
Mamarokvery funny if you can't work anymore because your disk is full...09:46
apacheloggervHanda: bug 130041309:46
ubottubug 1300413 in baloo (Ubuntu) "baloo_file crashed with SIGSEGV in getint2()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130041309:46
apacheloggervHanda: bug 129887309:46
ubottubug 1298873 in baloo (Ubuntu) "baloo_file crashed with SIGABRT in __gnu_cxx::__verbose_terminate_handler()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129887309:46
apacheloggerthat's all09:46
Mamarokand sorry if I didn't report this before, I only decided yesterday to retry KDE PIM, based on good comments everywhere...09:46
Mamarokapparently still not my cup of tea...09:47
* Mamarok just added a comment to bug 130119209:53
ubottubug 1301192 in amarok (Ubuntu) "transition from gst0.10 to gst1.0 phonon backend incomplete" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130119209:53
apacheloggerRiddell: ^ upstream is starting to get unhappy09:54
Mamarokstarting is an euphemisms, to be honest, we already have a list of reports for that bug upstream09:55
Mamarokeuphemism*09:55
apacheloggeras long as we do unprepared library transitions a month before release the world is in order09:56
Mamarok:)09:58
Mamarokwell, at least we have something we can point people at09:58
vHandaMamarok: disk is full because of Baloo? Because of these crash reports?10:07
MamarokvHanda: I am still trying to find out what filled up the disk exactly, but it all started with me starting KDE PIM10:45
vHandalet me know if it turns out to be Baloo. I've put in a lot of effort to make sure it is not like Nepomuk.10:46
Mamarokwell, it has  position.DB file of 0,7 GB, a bit big, isn't that?10:47
Mamarokalso, where can I choose what to index?10:48
Mamaroknvm, found it10:49
BluesKaj'Morning all11:07
MamarokvHanda: I found the culprit, it was a ~./.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/ folder with a total of 78 GB!11:35
Mamarokshoudln't there be no more nepomuk?11:35
BluesKajMamarok, just did an upgrade and saw some nepomuk lib files being upgraded, guess baloo is still using them.11:39
Mamarokwell, just starting Kontact again after several months of no use, I ended up with over 70 GB filling up my hard disk in no time11:40
BluesKajwith email data?11:41
MamarokI didn't even check if there was any data, I deleted the complete folder11:41
Mamarokso I could at least reuse my computer11:42
Mamarokand apparently that also fixed the muon isuse, now the search works again, so it was a space problem11:43
BluesKajMamarok, are you using akonadi and kmail as well ?11:43
Mamarokwell, that is how everything started, I wanted to try kontact again, and ended up with having a full HD11:44
jussikmail gets much faster when you switch the akonadi backend to postgres11:44
* BluesKaj avoids akonadi and kmail11:46
kdeuser56jussi: which release are you on?11:50
jussikdeuser56: 13.10 with ppa11:50
kdeuser56BluesKaj: no reason to do so11:50
kdeuser56jussi: does it work out of the box?11:50
jussikdeuser56: does what work out of the box? 11:50
kdeuser56jussi: the postgres akonadi backend11:51
jussikdeuser56: it appears to...11:51
jussiI clicked switch, then restart and kmail works, only faster11:51
kdeuser56jussi: are you using internal postgres server?11:51
jussikdeuser56: yes11:52
kdeuser56jussi: and you simply switched the backend ... what happened to the data?11:52
sgclarkRiddell: good morning, any tasks for me today?12:10
Riddellsgclark: well you could look at what's up with solid here http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_4.98.0_trusty.html12:14
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1299920] defaulting to qt5 does not work siunce QT_SELECT=qt4 is in the environment by default. @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1299920 (by Søren Holm)12:14
Riddellsgclark: but it's very weird and I really have no idea12:14
sgclarkRiddell: I will take a look12:14
Riddell"The following files are already published in Kubuntu Experimental:12:15
Riddellqtdeclarative5-kf5solid-5.0_4.98.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa5_amd64.deb"12:15
Riddellsgclark: it compiles fine but then fails to upload12:15
Riddellhttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/171639075/upload_5874921_log.txt12:15
Riddellis something nutty happening like it making that binary twice?12:15
vHandaBluesKaj: there is a nepomukbaloomigrator which runs once. It migrates all the tags, ratings and config files12:18
vHandayou can kill it and disable it if you don't care about the migration12:18
sgclarkRiddell: indeed weird12:18
vHandait's the only reason you need the nepomuk-core package12:18
kdeuser56vHanda: did you have a look into https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332686 ?12:21
ubottuKDE bug 332686 in Files "baloo_file_extractor crashed with SIGSEGV in getint2()" [Crash,Unconfirmed]12:22
vHandakdeuser56: yes, but I cannot say if it has been fixed since I cannot reproduce it.12:23
vHandaI've pushed a number of changes, which should fix it.12:23
BluesKajvHanda, i don't have baloo enabled, don't need it.12:23
sgclarkRiddell: build log only shows one created, this is very odd12:23
vHandaok12:23
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kdeuser56vHanda: great!, thanks, I will see if it happens again12:27
kdeuser56vHanda: which release should the fixes be in?12:28
sgclarkRiddell: changes only lists one... the only thing I can think to do is change ppa5 to ppa4, you went from ppa3 to ppa512:31
Riddellsgclark: I got this reject e-mail12:59
Riddell"qtdeclarative5-kf5solid-5.0_4.98.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa5_i386.deb: Version older than that in the archive.                12:59
Riddell+4.98.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa5 <= 4.98.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa6                                                         "12:59
Riddelland for the ~ppa3 upload I got a reject e-mail saying ~ppa4 was in the archive12:59
RiddellI think launchpad is going nuts12:59
shadeslayer_wgrant_: ^13:00
Riddelloh, it's coming from kdeclarative13:01
Riddellwgrant_: it may be me who's going mad not launchpad13:01
Riddellthat's what happens if you stay up until 04:3013:01
sgclarkRiddell: figure it out?13:02
Riddellsgclark: I think I messed up kdeclarative which also made the solid package13:02
Riddellqtdeclarative5-kf5solid-5.013:03
sgclarkRiddell: ahhh13:03
Riddellshould be qtdeclarative5-kf5declarative-5.013:03
Riddellsgclark: could you check and fix that?13:03

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